If only EQ didn't destroy phase. I like imaging too much to fix a lot of headphones with EQ. There really is no reason someone can't just make DSP correction that doesn't effect phase.
I vaguely remember a HEDD representative mentioning the possibility of closed-back HEDDphone. As someone for whom open-backs are not an option, I hope something will come of that.
@@HelloworldAD the Tungsten is warmer/darker than neutral tuning. Less top end energy than the Susvara, it is also more spacious sounding than the LCD-5. The Tung is less airy sounding than the Sus, the Tung has more fuller sounding vocals than the 5 & Sus. When powered properly, I prefer the low end of the 5 the most. Of the 3, I like the treble of the Tung the most. Resolution goes to the Sus, I like the bass the least off the Tung. But the Tung is still VERY hard to drive, it needs A LOT of gain. Not a simple recommendation, hope that helps.
@@iComment87 The overall presentation is smooth and silky, like a (much upgraded) LCD-4. The bass extends, but characterized more by decay than attack. A very statisfying thump rather than a sharp bite, if that makes sense
I tried it at the show, had no idea who Nightjar were and I'd just been listening to Empire Ears Evo & Monarch Mk iii. I preferred Singularity to both and didn't understand how id never heard of these guys lol
@@michaellazaar1838Nah I was crying due to the fact tuning is 1:1 what I desire and IEMs 3x the price couldn't do that, including $5k Storm that was on table next to it
@@ourada46 gorgeous. I told them timbre wide they were some of the best vocals at the show. I preferred the vocals on singularity to the anole vx id tried moments before
Ayyy the new Hedds! Was wondering what those teasers were about. The new Headstrap looks really forward thinking, hope the materials have a realistic longevity.
I was thinking I was crazy for suspecting that the guy on the picture frame for this video was Zeos... and voila! It is! The man himself, showing his face like it's no big deal (it used to be). Awesome 😅
The easiest way to make resolve smile is to get him to watch wave theories review of the 109 Pro. Wave Theory claims the headphone cable makes a huge difference. Wave Theory should start a comedy channel.
Resolve smiles much more often when you all are not around. This is because he requires solitude in order to deeply contemplate the tue wonder of it all!
A little of topic, but will you be reviewing the Hifiman EF-600 dac/amp either here or in print? I mainly want to know if they fixed the problems with the EF-400 which you said you'd do an update on if they did? Thanks. Love the channel btw!!
The part about HEDDphone weight was interesting. They were known for being heavy and uncomfortable. The were 718g. ~0,75% of that is 538,5g, that's a solid reduction. Shows that the era of uncomfortable & heavy headphones is nearing to an end. Every producer which fails to release nonw-wooden headphones below 500g, aiming at below 450g and wooden ones below 550g, aiming at below 500g should now be ashamed and laughted at. And, of course, they should always be comfortable at the same time. No more stupid headbands like Final, Focal, Abyss etc.
Yes down to 10 Hz 🤲🏻. The rules are completely different in headphones as you only need a fraction of the sound pressure compared to a speaker tweeter. Was a stunning moment for the team, when we first heard a bass coming through an AMT 🤯
Not a question of cost/expense but almost entirely how much gain the amp has. They need less actual current than a susvara for example, but TONS of voltage. So you need an amp with high max voltage output and very high gain, ideally 24dB or more
@@Viewer13128I would the the topping LA90 would be fine. Running a headphone off a modern speaker amp is the way to go, because its perfectly safe due to their voltage offsets mossfets switching. Just don't be a idiot about it.
Room correction is just a form of EQ. "EQ can fix nothing". "EQ temporarily puts a Band-Aid on sonic flaws." (according to Dave the honest audiophile and he has god on his side so he must be correct. Right?) Therefore you need to work out how you are going to achieve a permanent solution to room problems.
Its really sad how almost every other industry embraces new technology exept this one. Its all about that purchase validation addiction, and eq gets in the way of that. These people have deluded themselves into believing that the tuning supplied by the manufacturer is the best it can possibly be, which wouldn't even be true if it was on paper, because of your own head transfer function. So even in a world were we knew what a flawless tuning was, it still could be improved. Thats how misguided these people are.
@@benstain2674 yes the tuning supplied by the manufacturer is always a compromise of cost VS performance so you will rarely see a perfect frequency response. Mostly it's very easy to fix hardware defects with software. Then there's personal reference. Not everyone likes the tuning provided by the mastering engineer.
@@dangerzone007 to be fair, these are very niche channels of a already niche community. You're always going to have outliers for any product no matter how awful it is. I recently bought a pair of LCDi4, a iem so awful in its stock tuning that even audeze said it was designed with dsp correction in mind. I correct it to IEF 2023, which requires a peak of 10db gain at 3500hz, and that target has the shallowist pinna gain of all neutral targets. The defult tuning of that thing sounds like you a listening through a wall while underwater, yet they're are plenty of reviews that say it sound awesome, "meaty", "full", judging purly through 3.5mm. There will never be a limit to their excuses, so its best to just see it as clown behaviour at this point.
When will the drop Sennheiser HE-X happen?!!! Just the headphone no amps and less than usd 5k would be nice. That is impressive everything else is just ok blah blah blah because once you get to hear HE 1 other headphones are just less appealing even what they call flagship but really goodnt compared to it. Tone coherency the rightness of the sound is beyond what you expect from headphones. My bias is the absolute sound and speaker systems that ate balanced with dynamics and intense tone density / color that gives the sound natural realism. All these ultra high end stuff is just too expensive even for headphones.
You can get very close to it by buying a lcd 5 or susvara, using autoeq, and adhering it to the IEF 2023 target. The HE-1 isn't a detail king like the shangri-la Sr or aperio, its very much on par with the conventional flagships. The reason it sounds more natural is because its the only model to have a bass boost of 2db below 120hz. The rest are completely flat, which sounds too thin. The IEF target will get you 95 to 99% of the sonic experience, obviously without the physical one.
I've thankfully never been afflicted with the headphone bug. Good speakers are perfectly fine for my music listening. I do have a set of Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 Ohm that I use in digitizing LPs. They cost $132 when I bought them about 2 years ago and sound pretty good. So would it be safe for me to assume that $2000 headphones sound 15x as good? If I paid that much, I would be super pissed if they didn't.
That Utter Madlad
GoldenSound, you are SO GOOD at this. Such natural, confident delivery
@@RS-zb4mr so edgy
He sounds like an electronics engineer. I wonder what his background is.
Resolve will only truly smile when everyone in the whole world uses EQ.
This is the way.
Based purists vs chad EQers
If only EQ didn't destroy phase. I like imaging too much to fix a lot of headphones with EQ. There really is no reason someone can't just make DSP correction that doesn't effect phase.
@@pokrog headphones are minimum phase devices, and not sure how EQ "destroys" it?
@@pokrog what now? I spent years EQing bunch of stuff while producing and never heard it mess with the stereo position of any recording.
Resolve smiling is what i live for
so fun to see you guys having fun
I vaguely remember a HEDD representative mentioning the possibility of closed-back HEDDphone. As someone for whom open-backs are not an option, I hope something will come of that.
It‘s definitely a goal, but not around the corner. 🙏🏻
Been testing the Tungsten in my system for the past week. Completely agree - it’s awesome!
How are the macro dynamics?
How is the tungsten when compared to the lcd5 and susvara (if you had the chance to try them)?
@@HelloworldAD the Tungsten is warmer/darker than neutral tuning. Less top end energy than the Susvara, it is also more spacious sounding than the LCD-5. The Tung is less airy sounding than the Sus, the Tung has more fuller sounding vocals than the 5 & Sus. When powered properly, I prefer the low end of the 5 the most. Of the 3, I like the treble of the Tung the most. Resolution goes to the Sus, I like the bass the least off the Tung. But the Tung is still VERY hard to drive, it needs A LOT of gain. Not a simple recommendation, hope that helps.
@@HelloworldADif I could get Sus for $1500(price of the single sided Tungsten) I would get Tungsten every time
@@iComment87 The overall presentation is smooth and silky, like a (much upgraded) LCD-4. The bass extends, but characterized more by decay than attack. A very statisfying thump rather than a sharp bite, if that makes sense
Z in the thumbnail lol
He great 😊😊😊
Excellent video, GoldenSound! Informative, entertaining, and professional. Well done!
Man, I can't wait for the review of the Singularity. That guy was genuinely in tears. You couldn't get a better recommendation than that!
I tried it at the show, had no idea who Nightjar were and I'd just been listening to Empire Ears Evo & Monarch Mk iii. I preferred Singularity to both and didn't understand how id never heard of these guys lol
@@falcodarkzzhow are the Vocals on the Singularity?
He was crying due to it's price.
@@michaellazaar1838Nah I was crying due to the fact tuning is 1:1 what I desire and IEMs 3x the price couldn't do that, including $5k Storm that was on table next to it
@@ourada46 gorgeous. I told them timbre wide they were some of the best vocals at the show. I preferred the vocals on singularity to the anole vx id tried moments before
Ayyy the new Hedds! Was wondering what those teasers were about. The new Headstrap looks really forward thinking, hope the materials have a realistic longevity.
They have! All carbon headband and the straps are of very high quality (and easily exchangable).⚡️
I went to CJ London once and I had a lot of fun.
I was thinking I was crazy for suspecting that the guy on the picture frame for this video was Zeos... and voila! It is! The man himself, showing his face like it's no big deal (it used to be). Awesome 😅
Remember when 1500-2000$ was the flagship price.
No, the Sony D10 was $3000...in the 80's.
Going to canjam in texas this year .. excited ☺️
I wish they did a CanJam in Australia so I can attend one!
Canjam already sounds like an outback town 👌😅
Gotta love that thumbnail tho. Zeoos should trademark that pose of his lmao 🤣
I just wanna say how nice the mic sound with your voice. Thank goodness with good recording :D
Does the HEDD 2 have any weight in the bass and even mids which the old version didn't?
+1 for a smile!
The thumbnail 😂😂
How did you end up sounding so good even though you’re waving your mic around!?!?!? What mic is that!?!? 🤣🤣🤣
The ZMF/JDS collaboration amp is incredible. Amazing synergy with ZMF. I must have one.
Which one sounds better on that amp? The planar ZMF or the dynamic ZMF?
The easiest way to make resolve smile is to get him to watch wave theories review of the 109 Pro. Wave Theory claims the headphone cable makes a huge difference. Wave Theory should start a comedy channel.
Resolve. The man that smirks but never smiles
The guy that “heh’s” but never “hah’s”
The dad that’s never angry just disappointed
Welcome to CanJam London 2023 - The River of Tears! 😢😊
How do the new Heddphones sound? are they reference like meant for professional studio use or are they also "fun"?
We hope both 👐🏻
Resolve smiles much more often when you all are not around. This is because he requires solitude in order to deeply contemplate the tue wonder of it all!
Cortini is amazing!!!
Zeos looks exactly like how he sounds and talks!
Yup,....like a chooch!
Very interesting, thanks!
It was me who started the Resolve smile campaign years ago...❤
Great intro! Lol
A little of topic, but will you be reviewing the Hifiman EF-600 dac/amp either here or in print? I mainly want to know if they fixed the problems with the EF-400 which you said you'd do an update on if they did? Thanks. Love the channel btw!!
The EF400 was fixed (there's an updated set of measurements on our site) so I presume the EF600 is too
@@GoldenSoundOkay cool, thankyou.
The part about HEDDphone weight was interesting. They were known for being heavy and uncomfortable. The were 718g. ~0,75% of that is 538,5g, that's a solid reduction.
Shows that the era of uncomfortable & heavy headphones is nearing to an end. Every producer which fails to release nonw-wooden headphones below 500g, aiming at below 450g and wooden ones below 550g, aiming at below 500g should now be ashamed and laughted at. And, of course, they should always be comfortable at the same time. No more stupid headbands like Final, Focal, Abyss etc.
The Heddphone is really good. Especially for the price point.
What is this mic you were holding ?
I'm coming to 2024 to bump into you guys...
My speakers has AMT tweeters. Can they really produce bass??
Yes down to 10 Hz 🤲🏻. The rules are completely different in headphones as you only need a fraction of the sound pressure compared to a speaker tweeter. Was a stunning moment for the team, when we first heard a bass coming through an AMT 🤯
@@HEDDAudioGmbH Nice!.Can't wait to try.
When talking about other canjams I wish you mentioned the Dallas one!
How expensive will the amp need to be to run the ModHouse Tungsten? So most Topping stuff won't be enough right?
Not a question of cost/expense but almost entirely how much gain the amp has. They need less actual current than a susvara for example, but TONS of voltage. So you need an amp with high max voltage output and very high gain, ideally 24dB or more
@@GoldenSound tyvm. is there any budget option you're aware of that fits what you described?
@@Viewer13128I would the the topping LA90 would be fine. Running a headphone off a modern speaker amp is the way to go, because its perfectly safe due to their voltage offsets mossfets switching. Just don't be a idiot about it.
Socal… then New York… What about Dallas?!
Tungsten, how the macro dynamics?
ZEOS! I mean, great video!
That MassKobo 465 is $15,000 USD holy fuck
the 394 ii is almost as good for 5k
It’s actually $17K USD. Lol
@@RyuMasterEX absolutely, it’s such a great head amp. World class
i just got the helios and good chance ill end up buying the crimson.
Thoughts on XMems?
Life must be good for presenters/influencers to have that much gear in their living space, yes that’s envious
Hi Zeos !
When are you going to review HQ player?
At 0:40. Who's that hotbox in the grey t-shirt? 🔥OmG! I'm melting.... ugh, he's married. 😭
HEDDphone?
Resolve should know.... Music it's not just only vocals and not only easy music....
The XLR shirt lmao
"what?" xD
Zeos is the rouge one of the many audiophile reviewers, with a slight hentai addiction
Awesome stuff. Seems like a good time. Glad no one was stabbed... being London and all lol xx
Lol sup guys! Little Baby shows spawned from Z Reviews !
Really? You gave the vote of confidence to this guy?
Room correction is just a form of EQ.
"EQ can fix nothing". "EQ temporarily puts a Band-Aid on sonic flaws." (according to Dave the honest audiophile and he has god on his side so he must be correct. Right?)
Therefore you need to work out how you are going to achieve a permanent solution to room problems.
Its really sad how almost every other industry embraces new technology exept this one. Its all about that purchase validation addiction, and eq gets in the way of that. These people have deluded themselves into believing that the tuning supplied by the manufacturer is the best it can possibly be, which wouldn't even be true if it was on paper, because of your own head transfer function. So even in a world were we knew what a flawless tuning was, it still could be improved. Thats how misguided these people are.
@@benstain2674 yes the tuning supplied by the manufacturer is always a compromise of cost VS performance so you will rarely see a perfect frequency response. Mostly it's very easy to fix hardware defects with software. Then there's personal reference. Not everyone likes the tuning provided by the mastering engineer.
@@dangerzone007 to be fair, these are very niche channels of a already niche community. You're always going to have outliers for any product no matter how awful it is. I recently bought a pair of LCDi4, a iem so awful in its stock tuning that even audeze said it was designed with dsp correction in mind. I correct it to IEF 2023, which requires a peak of 10db gain at 3500hz, and that target has the shallowist pinna gain of all neutral targets. The defult tuning of that thing sounds like you a listening through a wall while underwater, yet they're are plenty of reviews that say it sound awesome, "meaty", "full", judging purly through 3.5mm. There will never be a limit to their excuses, so its best to just see it as clown behaviour at this point.
Just unsubscribed to subscribe again for a smile.
When will the drop Sennheiser HE-X happen?!!! Just the headphone no amps and less than usd 5k would be nice. That is impressive everything else is just ok blah blah blah because once you get to hear HE 1 other headphones are just less appealing even what they call flagship but really goodnt compared to it. Tone coherency the rightness of the sound is beyond what you expect from headphones. My bias is the absolute sound and speaker systems that ate balanced with dynamics and intense tone density / color that gives the sound natural realism. All these ultra high end stuff is just too expensive even for headphones.
You can get very close to it by buying a lcd 5 or susvara, using autoeq, and adhering it to the IEF 2023 target. The HE-1 isn't a detail king like the shangri-la Sr or aperio, its very much on par with the conventional flagships. The reason it sounds more natural is because its the only model to have a bass boost of 2db below 120hz. The rest are completely flat, which sounds too thin. The IEF target will get you 95 to 99% of the sonic experience, obviously without the physical one.
Size watermelon melon represent.
I unsubscribed, so I can re subscribe to make ppl happy
I've thankfully never been afflicted with the headphone bug. Good speakers are perfectly fine for my music listening. I do have a set of Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 Ohm that I use in digitizing LPs. They cost $132 when I bought them about 2 years ago and sound pretty good. So would it be safe for me to assume that $2000 headphones sound 15x as good? If I paid that much, I would be super pissed if they didn't.
$2000 headphones would sound 15x as good if you used them with a $2000 DAC+amp. 😉
The 770 are poorly tuned headphones, so yes, they absolutely would.
Law of diminishing returns applies to most every material product in a capitalistic society.
the look of the new HEDD is awful .
Yeah... if you go to canjam socal, you don't need to explore Irvine.
Simpletons smile. Those of higher intellect maintain a neutral appearance. Ask Jeremy Clarkson.
Symphoniums all look ugly