CrossFit Athletes Have the Same Technical Faults

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  • @zacktelander
    @zacktelander  ปีที่แล้ว +6

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  • @gkrefft
    @gkrefft ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Crossfitter here. I'm saving this tutorial in my "Diamonds" Playlist. I have never never never ever heard a more logical, natural and comprehensible explanation. Thank you!

  • @charlesstage
    @charlesstage ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is the absolute best video I have EVER SEEN on the OHS and the pull. Thank you so much. As a 51 year old competitive masters athlete you just saved my back and shoulders. God bless you and all your doing for the community!:)

  • @tpola3648
    @tpola3648 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Zack ever since Clarence stopped posting I've been watching your stuff religiously. Just wanted to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for making this content free and accessible for people. I've been trying to get into oly lifting for years without a coach and without crossfit and also in an area where oly liftings is almost completely unknown. These videos are CRUCIAL. I have been severely plateaued in both snatch and clean and jerk for over a year now... Excited to try this tomorrow. Have a nice day sir.

  • @Lizzies_garage_of_gainz
    @Lizzies_garage_of_gainz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched this, then watched again and went tried it out in my garage. Watched again and filmed myself to check I was doing it correctly. Thanks for the fantastic information 💪🏼

  • @Hairy.Whodini
    @Hairy.Whodini ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone coming back from a long injury and plateaued well below my PB, I needed this.
    The snatch has always been my favorite lift, so "forgetting" how to do it has been maddening.
    Thank you.

  • @fourthbest
    @fourthbest ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is really good. I've been lifting for a few years now, and this is one of the best breakdowns that every CrossFitter or beginner weight lifter can learn from.

  • @Wheeler81
    @Wheeler81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Average Crossfitter here. Out of all of the oly lifting tutorials I've watched online (there's a lot haha), this one is by far the best! Informative and easy to understand! Can't wait to put this into practise! Big love from Australia legends!

  • @jdfleblanc
    @jdfleblanc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a crossfit coach I love this. Very confident I can use this to help people improve and get more enjoyment out of workouts. Great work Zack!

  • @nerdalert300
    @nerdalert300 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The number of coaches that made me do "squat therapy" with a PVC, facing a wall is offensive. This is everything I was yelling! I physically CANNOT go "pie to sky" and chest up and ass to grass at the same time. This is amazing shit. ❤

  • @sportybeth
    @sportybeth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes!! I’ve noticed this too. I’ve always used the “long femur” excuse for my none vertical torso. But I’ve been told to keep my chest forward and look up loads. But my snatch position looks very much like Dylan’s there. It’s funny because when cf coaches see that they’ll actively coach against it. I had a coach a few years ago that was more into old lifting than CrossFit and he got me to keep my chin down a bit in the catch rather than trying to have my head through and look forward and it changed my snatch completely 🙌🏻

  • @RonnieSportz
    @RonnieSportz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is excellent. You’ve put words to what my joints have been screaming over the years. This makes a lot of sense. Tried it with a swifter mop rod, worked perfectly

  • @justinnewman13
    @justinnewman13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vadim Kozevnikov does an accessory exercise to the snatch he calls "Vadim Jumps", where he maintains his torso angle while driving through the midfoot until he comes off the ground. It looks exactly like what you’re demonstrating here with the pull portion of the lift

  • @justinfabio1326
    @justinfabio1326 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So it’s crazy that’s how i over head squat with the slight angle the way you show it. And when a coach try’s to adjust or have me fix it it becomes difficult for me to do the over head squat. I feel much more comfortable holding my torso when over head squatting and in that bottom position. Great video.

    • @jater10
      @jater10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have been told too the angle when I OH squat or snatch is weird. CF tends to go with universal cues - which is odd since everyone is built and moves differently.

  • @desireehowland7670
    @desireehowland7670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful drills and skills. Showing the movement in the back helps visualize a lot! Thanks for sharing and breaking it down

  • @alanb1498
    @alanb1498 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pure instruction no bullshit training...the way it should be without useless assistance exercises...love watching your videos before my early morning workouts

  • @TheRavenMaiden
    @TheRavenMaiden ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is me exactly! CrossFitter for a couple of years, been plateaued in the snatch for a while trying to figure out what to do. Thanks for the insightful video, I think I can apply some of your key points to help improve my technique. I will definitely be trying some of these drills 👍

    • @danisrusski6297
      @danisrusski6297 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about improving base strength as well? Would that not help your snatch?

    • @TheRavenMaiden
      @TheRavenMaiden ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danisrusski6297 yeah that would certainly help. I think all my lifts continue to improve, meaning I’m lifting heavier over time with progressive overload, but it’s the snatch that lags behind, improving more slowly, and I think that has a lot to do with technique.

  • @kylegreenley8950
    @kylegreenley8950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a crossfitter and someone who loves the snatch this is an awesome video! having taken the L! recently but have been doing crossfit with the oly lifts for over 5 years. I didn't really like how they taught the OHS and snatch. Because I have very long arms, as well what I find "comfortable" to sit in a deep squat like Zack has shown here goes against what they teach... so I would agree 1000% with Zack when I feel like they are missing out on lots of people being able to get into that position.. because everyone has different bodies.. so why are we teach the Snatch and OHS only one way that isn't gonna work for everyone.

  • @adamjones7891
    @adamjones7891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video gas hit on most of the big things my weightlifting coach has worked with me on for the past 6 months. I came into weightlifting seriously after doing crossfit for 2 years prior.
    Hinging too much: yes.
    Arm bend to 'row' the bar in: yes.
    Being too focused on being vertical in my initial position: yes.
    Also i would sometimes be told to do the "hold the pvc pipe in your palms facing the ceiling" drill in the warm up of a crossfit class and i just wouldnt because it felt like a different position than what i wanted to be.

  • @BowBeforeTheAlgorithm
    @BowBeforeTheAlgorithm ปีที่แล้ว

    I know you mentioned several times in the video why you chose the vid title... But I feel like the name doesn't adequately capture this video's epicness! I almost did not watch this....but Im super glad that I did. Great job

  • @jamesbrucelawson
    @jamesbrucelawson ปีที่แล้ว

    Is a Crossfit L1 trainer, I appreciate this video. Simply makes sense.

  • @slamrock17
    @slamrock17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My gf and I love you Zack. The most wholesome and helpful fitness information. My squat has improved so much from Zack!

  • @mrruthless6913
    @mrruthless6913 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been super interested in snatching, and I started by trying to do an overhead squat and it was a nightmare.
    This was so helpful. Thank you.

    • @budgetlifter
      @budgetlifter ปีที่แล้ว

      been doing it for like the past 7 months and it def get better. Stretch every day to improve mobility makes thing a lot easier

  • @PandolfoCarla
    @PandolfoCarla ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sadly I got to meet Olympic weightlifting through crossfit and at 35YO. I love this video so much but I’m also so angry at losing almost a year now doing all wrong. I just want to electroshock myself and learn it again from the weightlifting approach… I loved them so much that it really makes me sad not getting them right enough.💔
    Thanks!! This is very useful

    • @jater10
      @jater10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is why CF coaches SHOULD NOT teach weightlifting the way per CF standard - unless they genuinely have a weightlifting bg like Zach and Dylan. Especially first time gym goers and elderly with physical limitations.

  • @Pepesilvia267
    @Pepesilvia267 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome. I struggle to get the bar that far back at the bottom. Just feel like my shoulders won’t rotate no matter how much prep I do. This puts the bar to far forward at the bottom. Working on this from the town is damn hard and unstable. Love your idea of working at the bottom

    • @Jordanschannel64
      @Jordanschannel64 ปีที่แล้ว

      I struggle with it a lot too, I have been starting 2-3 sessions a week with a 16in box and working downwards to an 8in because that is as low as I could go on the first day. maybe this modification is how we compensate for poor shoulder / upper back mobility

    • @jater10
      @jater10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably step away from the bar and use a training bar or pvc in the mean time. It is lighter but it is more important to understand the positions than lifting heavy.

  • @F8now
    @F8now ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excelent video. As a crossfitter i learnt a lot. Please keep doing videos like this!

  • @joelsherman8092
    @joelsherman8092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the biggest thing that I've learned from you is that you have found a perfect way to articulate head position as it relates to hip below knee. People rarely understand that the torso angle (head forward chin down) allows you to get the hip lower while maintaining a proper bar position - and it is in fact okay and necessary to move your shoulders with the hips when you squat.

  • @traaaaan
    @traaaaan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm closer to 40 than 30 and started following you a cpuole years ago. I started c&j but have been too much of a puss to snatch....also because I'm at a small gym with lots of mirrors by the deadlift platform.
    Will do the ohp from the bottom to get the technical form down. Great video!

  • @Itsjoe1986
    @Itsjoe1986 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must have heard “show me your armpits” and “palms to the sky” a million times. This was a much better explanation and gives me more to practice with. I am so focused on the upright torso, makes it hard to accomplish a good bottom position.

  • @joserubens1308
    @joserubens1308 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro, thus OH Squat technique is going to change my game from now on. Thanks Zack!

  • @justinthomas4598
    @justinthomas4598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crossfitter of 7 years here.. this is gold Zach

  • @jameshill2330
    @jameshill2330 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this was a master class. would love to see more of these. 🤘🏻

  • @MichiganFan70
    @MichiganFan70 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff. Being a 52 year old man with bad shoulders and just plain getting old this is some good stuff to remember for my next WOD at my box.

  • @thebreakthrough4491
    @thebreakthrough4491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I miss doing the snatch. I was fortunate enough to go to a high school that had a great weightlifting coach. We were training snatch, clean and jerks in the 6th grade and competing in state championships. It made me so much more explosive as a high school football player. When I got to college all of that went out of the window.

  • @JamieoftheNorth
    @JamieoftheNorth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation with the reverse engineering and starting from the squat. I know what I'm practicing at open gym this morning.

  • @ZidaneSteiner
    @ZidaneSteiner ปีที่แล้ว

    This was INCREDIBLY helpful for me. I can't wait to get back in the gym and try these.

  • @dustinallen8888
    @dustinallen8888 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna give this a go next time I have a member going through foundations. Solid stuff man.

  • @RatamisPrimeBROGamerNZ
    @RatamisPrimeBROGamerNZ ปีที่แล้ว

    newbie here, the snatch fasinates me, ive been trying, getting my position, bar path, so much too it, ima do this!! ty zack and dylan

  • @MuJoNeSs
    @MuJoNeSs ปีที่แล้ว

    What a masterclass! Thank you so much. Snatch is so beautiful.

  • @ronboucher5841
    @ronboucher5841 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve learnt a lot from you over the years, including this video. Thanks.

  • @HashimAlmadani84
    @HashimAlmadani84 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zack, by any chance you can cover a video of Snatch and Jerks drills for athletes with AIC Pattern

  • @jeffdevon2112
    @jeffdevon2112 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are hands down my favorite TH-cam creator these days. It’s been awesome to go back through your videos and see how much you’ve grown and improved. Your technique videos have helped me so much! Please keep making videos!

  • @Haassan1
    @Haassan1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could not press the like button hard enough. Zack, you are my TH-cam hero!

  • @rhidiandavies1991
    @rhidiandavies1991 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou. I've been saying this for years - the overhead squat, does not translate into the snatch. I find there's a similar issue with a light squat cleans that are common in crossfit wods. You're training this soft catch position that will result in the weight flattening you when you go to clean for real. There needs to be tension in the bottom of a snatch or clean, you should be pulling under as quickas you can, and then immediately meeting the bar, ideally at or just below it's highest point, with your quads and everythinh else fully engaged. This is why I'll often tell people not to train power variations separately. To me, a squat clean is just a power clean you could pull high enough.

  • @johndoe-gh2or
    @johndoe-gh2or 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zach is right no one in CrossFit talking about holding torso angle or working from the bottom up

  • @DCJayhawk57
    @DCJayhawk57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. I'm thinking about dabbling in Olympic lifting again after my current strength block, so this gives me some good starting points to relearn the movements. Snatch is my favorite but it's been a long time.

  • @JosiahSpann
    @JosiahSpann ปีที่แล้ว

    This was freaking awesome!!!! As a CrossFitter, you've got the nail on the head. Time to go to work!!!!

  • @jchope777
    @jchope777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree 💯! Took me almost a year to unlearn bad habits from CF when it comes to OW.

  • @polyakoviv
    @polyakoviv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow lol i mean this is how i taught myself, my wife and my mother how to do a barbell back squat- find a good bottom position, know it good, feel it and work your way up. I've taught myself this way with overhead squats, didn't realize it's some kind of insight for crossfit lol.

  • @craigherbert25
    @craigherbert25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an argument about getting no rep’s on OHS because my torso held it’s angle. I told the judge they didn’t have a clue how to OHS.

  • @bobbybobman3073
    @bobbybobman3073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was hoping for a snatch help video for week or two now, thank you hopefully I can start to feel the movement better and get past a dumb plateau ... 135lbs ... Been stuck there for a long long time, meanwhile I'm able to jerk 200 lbs and clean 225lbs. So yeah it's been really annoying not being able to figure out the snatch.

  • @Rxpov
    @Rxpov ปีที่แล้ว

    Immense effort and thorough explanation. Thank u guys.

  • @vincentprinzo
    @vincentprinzo ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video! I have all those faults as a crossfit lifter. These advanced techniques are super helpful.

  • @luisbrito4384
    @luisbrito4384 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job guys now the pieces are staking together

  • @VermontMustache
    @VermontMustache ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys. Real talk and good pointers. Would probably be real fun to lift and bro out with you guys.

  • @david-yb6vp
    @david-yb6vp ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this. Not a cross fiitter but this is exactly what I was working on

  • @joshbrown384
    @joshbrown384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Friggen huge, thanks for the insight!
    Dunno if you’ve covered this before, but any shot at a video that quickly covers how to move your feet? Over the years, my feet started staying glued to the ground at heavier weights during both lifts :(

  • @badgamerbaecon
    @badgamerbaecon ปีที่แล้ว

    Crossfitter who just yeets and prays here (big pull) saving this so I can re-learn my lifts in the off season, thank you!

  • @Ktotheyle
    @Ktotheyle ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved watching this I’ve learned sooooo much I can’t wait to get working on it now zack got me all excited

  • @kevinboje9270
    @kevinboje9270 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent explanation on this, thank you!

  • @MariusNinjai
    @MariusNinjai ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad you have a stable camera and not vlog type similar to Cbum style like in a other video

  • @Bigkat888
    @Bigkat888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was incredibly informative and helpful. Thanks fellas! 🙏🏻💪🏻

  • @rageintruths
    @rageintruths ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to mention that CrossFit L1 does not consider limb/torso lengths, where athletes/lifters have different proportions which will influence how & what ideal their bottom overhead position should look like. This also directly affects the degree of shoulder torque/rotation in order to support weight overhead.

  • @craigjohnson9605
    @craigjohnson9605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! See some shite about at times but this was very in depth, loved it 👌🏼

  • @d3vilm4ster
    @d3vilm4ster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:30 Look at the girl in the background lifting a kettlebell with his feets, inside the rack.... classic!

  • @Joshdoeshairsystems
    @Joshdoeshairsystems ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video !! More like this with the top notch breakdowns 🙏

  • @gaboCF
    @gaboCF ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pure GOLD!!!! Thank You so much

  • @tylerreaves2840
    @tylerreaves2840 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long time powerlifter here low bar squatting in the 400s, but my front squat is terrible. I think the key insight I gained here is that just because it's a front squat doesn't mean I have to have a vertical torso angle. My anthropometry (long ass torso) literally doesn't allow for that. I'm going to allow for a slight angle anteriorly and see how that goes. Thanks!

    • @AfferbeckBeats
      @AfferbeckBeats ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The advice here doesn't really apply to the front squat and clean, because if you lean over either the bar rolls off your shoulders, or your hurt your wrists or fingers trying to keep it there. If you're not wearing weightlifting shoes, that's an instant improvement right there because the vast majority of people lack the ankle mobility for a good quality front squat.

  • @joel-oquendo
    @joel-oquendo ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! I'm gonna try this with some gym members right away

  • @jtkachlmeier
    @jtkachlmeier ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a basement dungeon master. I love what you do man. Thank you for your content. Ramsey Dewey referred me over to you. I am hooked. I like all videos and watch all to the end. FYI.

  • @alanb1498
    @alanb1498 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those pulls to the hip are going to be included imy workouts for back..very interesting muscle involvement

  • @m60mk
    @m60mk ปีที่แล้ว

    i do crossfit,by us in the box u can crossfit and olymic lifting theye send u there if u neet more time for lifting and its simular what u do
    thx for the vid its very good for the info and how the complex work together ,,

  • @danielmsz
    @danielmsz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great problem is when we say “CrossFit teaches this” and that’s not the case. It’s not in their courses. People say this when they actually mean SOME coaches in CrossFit teach this. CrossFit tries to coach the best technique in every modality, borrowing from the best at their sport.

  • @WOdrumline91
    @WOdrumline91 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is golden. More of this please.

  • @johnfitzgerald1055
    @johnfitzgerald1055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed this!! Thanks guys!

  • @emilpindur9400
    @emilpindur9400 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saved myself a ton of time by just using a smith machine. Start at the bottom in the snatch position and just work up and down from there. That dials in the position, then go freeweight with the bar and load up.

  • @wi11ialvl
    @wi11ialvl ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa, a few things just clicked for me from this video. Thank you!!

  • @shaddi412
    @shaddi412 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is underrated

  • @hoosierboyjames
    @hoosierboyjames ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zack and Dylan may have saved my pretend weightlifting career, thanks boy

  • @miura6341
    @miura6341 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how he turns his head arround to look and speak into both cameras. Girafeman u are kind of adorable

  • @clairebayscoach
    @clairebayscoach ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate you two!

  • @eldiablodelsur
    @eldiablodelsur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we all take a moment to appreciate how great Dillion is at demonstrating?

  • @nitrometh42
    @nitrometh42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CF is exercise. After 4 years on the CF Koolaid I realized all I was doing was screwing off.

  • @AKVT-uz2gj
    @AKVT-uz2gj ปีที่แล้ว

    AK49 VT14
    0 seconds ago
    Internal rotation at address
    Internal rotation when receiving the snatch/squat jerk/split and power
    Why? Cause your back muscles are stronger then your shoulder muscles
    Plus it forces you into a more stable overhead position
    Not like show me your armpits and balance on a toothpick while you lift this load
    Good vid ZT👍🏋️‍♀️

  • @adrianyang2192
    @adrianyang2192 ปีที่แล้ว

    This made so much sense I was tryna increase my mobility to do a jerk squat without actually trying it :/

  • @garner145
    @garner145 ปีที่แล้ว

    such a great video! Thanks for the solid advice!

  • @georgebrandon777
    @georgebrandon777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial, keep up the good work🫡

  • @yougotfelted8297
    @yougotfelted8297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zach do you have a video on hamstring strength ? My hamstrings a significantly weaker than my glutes and back and are causing issues with the initial pulling.

  • @cody6070
    @cody6070 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens to the glassman vid I didn't get to finish it??? Was it taken down

  • @christophschonbach6263
    @christophschonbach6263 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome explanations!!!

  • @charlescannon6021
    @charlescannon6021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate the content. I live in Texas is there a way we can come to the gym and get a one-on-one sesh? Obviously would pay.

  • @aldrianaugustine9030
    @aldrianaugustine9030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% agree to everything you said. I remember doing my L1 and disagreeing with everything the guy was teaching us about overhead squats or snatches because I had already learned oly lifting from an actual olympic lifter. None of the staffs cues made sense and could be generalised.

  • @XtremeFit256
    @XtremeFit256 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really helpful cheers Fham'
    👊

  • @alejandraquintanilla5259
    @alejandraquintanilla5259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just in the OHSquat par, it's exactly what happens to me

  • @harrymiles2652
    @harrymiles2652 ปีที่แล้ว

    The yeet and pray tactic... I've been called out

  • @edgarpalma5246
    @edgarpalma5246 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the yo yo thing translate to cleans? I constantly deadlift my cleans so the bar gets separated AF

  • @Jo-oe3pi
    @Jo-oe3pi ปีที่แล้ว

    This seems so smart to me. I bet it works for teaching cleans too.

  • @jedthestoryteller
    @jedthestoryteller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video was 9h ago but ngl wish i saw this 9 years ago

  • @jonathanhayes7603
    @jonathanhayes7603 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you can’t get your arms vertical from the squatted position? I’m barely able to overhead squat the bar because I’m fighting the weight being in front of me.

  • @carlgraham7677
    @carlgraham7677 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap! . . . Light bulbs !💡 💡I guarantee a couple things just clicked for me. . . . I need to get to a gym, asap. Thank you!