The Sound of the Elamite language (Vocabulary & Sample Text)
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ELAMITE
Native to: Elamite Empire
Region: Western Asia, Iran
Era: c. 2800-300 BC
Language family: Language isolate
Elamite, also known as Hatamtite, is an extinct language that was spoken by the ancient Elamites. It was used in present-day southwestern Iran from 2600 BC to 330 BC. Elamite works disappear from the archeological record after Alexander the Great entered Iran. Elamite is generally thought to have no demonstrable relatives and is usually considered a language isolate. The lack of established relatives makes its interpretation difficult.
A sizeable number of Elamite lexemes are known from the trilingual Behistun inscription and numerous other bilingual or trilingual inscriptions of the Achaemenid Empire, in which Elamite was written using Elamite cuneiform (circa 400 BCE), which is fully deciphered. An important dictionary of the Elamite language, the Elamisches Wörterbuch was published in 1987 by W. Hinz and H. Koch. The Linear Elamite script however, one of the scripts used to write the Elamite language circa 2000 BC, has remained elusive until recently.
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Excellent work! As a Dravidian speaker, there are extremely strong similarities especially that words for Mother, Father, you and me are same. But like a Sparchbund effect or a member of a presently undecoded language family.
Sadly, mother and father are actually similar in most unrelated languages because the word comes from onomatopoeia, the sound of baby babble. “Abba, atta, mama, baba, papa” etc
Oh please, there is no connection between Dravidian and Elamite. Most linguists don't believe in such a family, or a sprachbund, or ancient contact.
Yes, I wanted write the same. Some elamite words, names sound like dravid. The large part of indian's ancestors came from Iran thousands years ago.
@@konars5601 the Neolithic Zagros farmers are believed to have brought the Dravidian languages into India about 10000-8000years ago. These same people were the ones in IVC.
@@FractalComputer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elamo-Dravidian_languages
Telugu speaker here. While I am not sure whether Elamite is a Dravidian language or part of a larger related family (Zagrosian) as proposed by Southworth. The fact that Proto Dravidian words for ivory, teeth, sesame, etc have been found in Akkadian and Elamite languages is interesting to me. If anything it shows that even in the ancient world, peoples were still connected in some way. Most plausible explanation for this is trade relations between the Indus Valley Civilization and Mesopotamia. Beautiful language though!
@پیاده نظام خان Dravidian languages most likely expanded along the Iranian coastline into India, many Dravidian castes are enriched with Neolithic Iranian farmer DNA and plus with Brahui's positioning leaves many to believe that Dravidians came from the Zagros region. The genetics substantiates a migration theory but linguistics is far more fuzzy so making a connection between Elamite and Proto Dravidian will be more difficult unless the IVC script language is deciphered
kurdish empire
And you will indeed be right my friend. There was a Bronze Age [and even Pre-Bronze Age, but it is controversial] trade route that connected HuangHe [Chinese] Civilisation, Indus Valley civilisation, Mesopotamia, Egypt, and others. Horses and Camels aren’t indigenous to Eurafrasia, but to Americas. They were brought here by trade between, what the Archaeologists say, Proto-Indo-European and Proto-Uto-Aztecan people.
Classical Indo-Chinese plants like Cotton, Barley, Turmeric and Coconut were present in Americas too, while classical Americana plants like Onions, Custard Apple, Chillies, Agave are greatly recorded in Sanskrit and Chinese texts.
It is a rabbit hole, but tl;dr, We were never as separated as History books may tell us. Bronze Age was a Golden Period for Humanity of both Americas and Eurafrasia.
Btw, even if we accept that Aryo-Dravidian theory, it can’t be negated that they too had an Iranian and Indian variety, as seen between Elam and Indus Valley. An Indo-Iranian relationship that predates the Aryan Migration.
What’s more astounding is that the Dravidian Urheimat and Indo-European Urheimat are literally Elam and Parsa according to several genealogical studies. We are at a stage in Geneolgy where the Anatolians, who were considered an offshoot of Info-Europeans are being negated from Indo-European flowchart and Dravidians, who were considered the Opposite Race to Indo-Europeans are considered more Indo-European.
Academian Mental Gymnastics in west is truly fascinating.
That is a good explanation when you take in consideration that those are all trade goods.
Here in Khuzestan, Iran. Where the center of Elam was, we still have some Elamite words in the language of Lori Bakhtiari
Thats what i was looking for since you deleted your old elamite video.
Thank you so much
Everyone seems to claim that this language is related to his. So far I've seen turks, Persians, luris, arabs and even dravidian Indians claim this language. Some languages don't seem to be related to any language, or at least, not to the languages that we know that have existed. Elamite is one of them, so is Basque and ainu, among others.
It's unfortunate that the language was eventually elaminited from the world
Lmaoo
hahaha
Thanks to arabian conquests, no doubt.
@@hrsmp They were eliminated about 700 years before the Arabic conquests, they were eliminated by competing Indu- European languages
other: hello how are you
elamite: ASHA ISH SHE SHA ASHASHA SHA SHA SH SHIA SHSHA SHA SHA
This language is not semitic. I'm kurd and i speak Arabic and I can tell you this language have %0 Similarity with Arabic
Es una lengua bellísima
The pronouns in Brahui are in-between Elamite and the rest of the Dravidian languages. It is really interesting. Brahui people are also mainly of Iranian related ancestry.
"The history of Elamite is periodised as follows:
Old Elamite (c. 2600-1500 BC)
Middle Elamite (c. 1500-1000 BC)
Neo-Elamite (1000-550 BC)
Achaemenid Elamite (550-330 BC)
Middle Elamite is considered the “classical” period of Elamite, but the best attested variety is Achaemenid Elamite,[7] which was widely used by the Achaemenid Persian state for official inscriptions as well as administrative records and displays significant Old Persian influence. Documents from the Old Elamite and early Neo-Elamite stages are rather scarce.
Neo-Elamite can be regarded as a transition between Middle and Achaemenid Elamite, with respect to language structure.
The Elamite language may have remained in widespread use after the Achaemenid period. Several rulers of Elymais bore the Elamite name Kamnaskires in the 2nd and 1st centuries BC. The Acts of the Apostles (c. 80-90 AD) mentions the language as if it was still current. There are no later direct references, but Elamite may be the local language in which, according to the Talmud, the Book of Esther was recited annually to the Jews of Susa in the Sasanian period (224-642 AD). Between the 9th and 13th centuries AD, various Arabic authors refer to a language called Khuzi spoken in Khuzistan, which was not any other language known to those writers. It is possible that it was "a late variant of Elamite".[8]" (Source: Wikipedia)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elamite_language
As a person who speaks basic Malayalam. I only came here to see whether Elamite is similar to Dravidian and it turns out there are similarities, however many people seem to ignore the fact that Korean and Japanese are also similar to Dravidian. And Australian Aboriginal languages have accents and tones that are very similar to Dravidian.
Firstly I don't think Dravidian languages came from Elamite, maybe there was a very very ancient connection that linked with Korean, Japanese, Dravidian languages and this so-called Elamite from the pre-historic age, during early human migrations eastward from Africa, this is a possibility!
Another possibility is that maybe Dravidian languages may have influenced Elamite, because the logic is that Ancient Indian civilisation is far more superior than Ancient Iranian civilisation, because of the size of the civilisation as well as population. No wonder why India is like billion plus people compared to the Middle East, about +100 million roughly.
Here are words that I found similar to Dravidian Korean and Japanese:
English: Dravidian: Elamite: Korean or Japanese:
you. ni. ni, nu neo (Korean)
who aara(Malayalam). akqa Dare (Japanese)
how engane(Malayalam). anka
not. alla(Malayalam) illai(Tamil). inna. innai (Japanese)
mother amma(Malayalam and Tamil) amma. omma or amma (Korean)
Also retroflexes are very critical in Dravidian languages, because they determine the meaning of word, Elamite language does not have these feature. So the Proto-Dravidian language (if it exist at all from god knows where) should be retroflexed too.
Therefore Dravidians have a connection, but most of the connection is with Korean than Elamite.
I like the ancient languages of the middle-east.
Me too, exist so many different languages, but all of those are incredible and beautiful! The history is so special, i thank god because we can study it!
Linear Elamite was decyphered just in 2018 by a Frenchman François Desset. its known from only about 32 inscriptions and is older than Elamite cuneiform.
There is a theory that the Dravidian languages are descended from the Elamite languages but I don’t think it’s been backed up with enough evidence but I can see some similarities
I'd always wondered why Persian and other West Iranian languages have such a higher distribution of /ʃ/ than even related languages, I think I have my answer
It is not Iranian language. But many similar words from Elam language in Iranian.
@@dariavushxerxes5309 yeah obviously, I was talking about substrate influence
As a native persian who has studied arabic and have listened to lots of indian songs😂it mostly sounds like tamil or telugu to my ears ,specially the words appa ,amma and ect ,there are some words similar to persian or arabic but overall it doesnt have much similarities to any of that
English - elamite - telungu
You - ni/nu - nivvu/nu
Where - mür - Ēra
Mother - amma - amma
Father - adda - abba(in rayalaseema telungu dielect)
And - äk - avthal (in North Tamilnadu telungu dielect)...
As a telungu speaker, I can understand some similarities between telungu and elamite language... 💞💞💞
Literally the only one remotely similar is you
Telungu ?
It's just a coincidence
@@jorgitoislamico4224 mm... Bcuz telugu ppl(of andhra/telangana) are descendents of elamite ppl of zagros mountains.. We are kings of indus valley civilization of harappa and mohenjo daro.. Search about telugu(telungu) language..
Only Four words ?
Excellent! I would love if you uploaded more Elamite. Especially with the cuneiform. :)
In persian language the woman translate as "zan" too. Its elamite word but i thought it was pure indo european
In Russian we have a word żena for wife. This might be an ancient borrow from Elamite to PIE?
"False Cognate"
Loanwords
@@SogoNotDrunk Or ancient borrow from PIE (or some of the IE languages) to Elamite
@@SogoNotDrunk - such basic words are unlikely to be borrowed in general.
This sounds like a southern Indian / Sri Lankan Dravidian language. If this was spoken faster it'd sound like Tamil
In luri language we have many words of elamite but in this video :
Luri , elamite
One = til = kiir
Two = Mar = mair
You = onu = nu
Where = ku = mur
When = asê, ke = spa, anke
Not = hana = inna
Woman = zan = zana
Child = kur , awil = Tur, maulli
Mother = da = amma
Man = rud = ruh
Water = gul = zul
Lurs are ancient people in the zagros that they are not persian nor semetic ...we are elamitian 😍😍😍
Lurs origin is iran people ?
Interesting, thanks.
Lurs are Iranian so it doesn't matter that much ;) but they are very closely related to persian. this also shows the magnificent history of Iran
I'm surprised they managed to recover complex concepts like interrogative words.
As far as I know, the Luri language has significant Elamite influence. Are they descended from the Elams who have been linguistically and culturally assimilated or not?
very interesting
Greetings from Azerbaijan. To the best of my knowledge, the Old Persian script was based on the Elamite script. Is it true or not?
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No, they are both based on sumerian script
A kerala ethnic grup ezava cast are believed that they are from the ezam or elam country and the elamite language and malayalam are verry similar
The Ezhavas of Kerala currently believe that they came around 2000 years ago from Ceylon, which may also be the "Eelam" of the Tamils. Could they have come instead from Elam in Persia? More likely, I suppose, than that they are descended from the lemurs of Madagascar.
However, the Ezhavas are dark-skinned, like most Malayalis other than some of the Brahmins. Other communities in Kerala, like the Jews and St Thomas Christians, also have stories of coming there around that era (plus or minus a few centuries).
They are not as dark as the indigenous people, who are to be found up in the hills of India and Ceylon. The ancient epics of India have the humans allied to the King of the Monkeys in the South, and that of Ceylon has the immigrants from India fighting wars against the King of the Demons: both may well represent the indigenous people who were displaced.
It's pronounced Eelam not Elam, also I don't think there is a unambiguous connection.
I thought this was a Semitic language. But it’s not
Were you thinking of the Eblaite language perhaps?
@@amirhoseinshams256 its not iranian
@@amirhoseinshams256 no
@@budycabra6668 It's Iranian in the sense that it came from Iran
Elamites were not indoeuropeans, but neither semites
Why am I confusing Elamite with Eblaite?
The first ever civilization which formed in Iran before Medes and Achaemenids ❤️
@ILoveLanguages, what is the Elamite and Akkadian word for love?
@ILoveLanguages!, what is Elamite for love?
Is there any revival project for this? Let me know.
I wish this language survived…
Is it possible to make a video of ottoman Turkish with perfect pronunciations?
@پیاده نظام خان ottoman Turkish is Turkish but using a different script
Do not use( kiir) in iran or other persian countrys.😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 But Cyrus the Great in Russia say Kiir Vilikiy😂. Why they use Kiir change the Cyrus
As a persian i can say i understand 39% of this
How about similarities with dravidians?
Words for mother, father and you is same as that of dravidian
Sumer elam dravid ?
@@loneranger3699 And is similar to nearly every other language.
There is a province in Iran name Elam they still exist
Elamite people still exist in the modern district of Khuzestan, Iran. they speak Elamite, that is the impression I got from Wikipedia. Of course, there is influx of Iranian, Arab etc. vocabulary.
Iran😍❤
In Malayalam, a Dravidian language.
Father, Mother, You, and the word “not” are pretty similar.
Malayalam
Mother = Amma
Father = Appa
You = Ni
Not= illa
These words for "mother" and "father" are nearly universal. Many unrelated language families have words for "mother" or "father" that sound like "amma," "baba," or "appa."
Praise the Mighty Zagros, these are my J2 ancestors. Mashaelamite.
Shashumanshan shasamasha
I think it is somehow related to dravidian languages
It is not related to Dravidian but Dravidian is related to it
0:20 in Rapa Nui ina = not
I know is a coincidence but curious enough
I can voice an English video in an Israeli dialect Or Arabic in an Israeli dialect
Maybe I'm hearing things that aren't here, but I hear early sounds of what became Sanskrit.
So... Eššana means King and nanri means say...
埃拉米語
💖💖
Apa means what in my language, hmm 🤔🤔 could be coincidence though
Some words are similar to balochi
Lots of "Sh" sounds.
Btw,You are looking at the languague with second oldest script in the world!
Do you need any samples of the Kannada language?
😊
Atta / Amma just like turkic for saying dad and mom 🤔 strange
It's not uncommon that the words for mom and dad is atta and amma, english has 'dada' and 'mama' but that's from how toddlers try to formulate words.
Umma in semitic language
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Those Iranians, who claim to be Aryan, need to look at this video for making sure whether they are Aryan or not.
Elamite was only spoken in southwestern Iran, so it's not like the rest of what would become Iran spoken this language.
Real Aryans are northern Europeans. The Sintashta/Andronovo cultures had people that looked very scandinavian. Modern iranians are just assimilated elamites
@@ANTSEMUT1 But Elamites were not the only civilization in Iran. There were other civilizations like Hurrians, Kassites (part of it was in Iran), Manneans, etc.
"What" in Malay is "apa" and "you" in Mandarin is "ni." I don't think it is a coincidence. Maybe these words came from Tamil language
No, such simple words wouldn't be loan words. It's just a coincidence.
The word apa in malay comes from proto malayic and is also come from malayo-polynesia .Mybe is a concidence .
coincidence
the native language of the Kurds and Persians and other indigenous inhabitants of the Iranian Highlands.
King darius🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷
Lol if Darius saw today’s Persia, he will kill himself.
@@ajarofmayonnaise3250 Not really. he will lead his people again against the second Arab invasion of Iran (current regime) and with the help of his people he'll bring back the lost glory to the country
Came later
Sounds like mix of Turkic and Dravidian languages.
Mix
Zul-su kiir-bir tet-dört kik-gök dingir-tengri,tengir(tengiz) dravidian and turkic mix ?
Mama, Papa, Baba, Tata, Dada, Deda, Ama, Apa, Ata, Nana, these are universal from natural baby sounds lol
zana looks like the slavic words for woman, but this is not an IE language.
Anyone hear the faintest Indo-Iranian essences?
Who/Akqa = Ko (Serbian)
When/Anka= Kada (Serbian)
How/Anka = Kako (Serbian)
Where/Mur = Gde/Kuda (Serbian)
Funny they have similar words for When and How? Mur doesn't sound like it follows the others in Elamite.
I/Hu and You/Nu are interesting because in Serbian Them is IH and Her is NJU depending on the case.
Woman/Zana = žena (Serbian)
Hahahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Who= Ki (Persian)
When= Key(Persian)
How= Cheguneh (Persian)
Where= Koja or Kuja(Persian)
The true Persians
🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷❤❤❤❤
Kiir-bir zul-su tet-tört,kik-gök,dingir-tengri,dengir=deniz Turkish Elamite language ?
Your coment burned my eyes
Lol after Sumerian now Elamite is also Turkic?? What would be the next supposedly Turkic language? Basque?? Or Mayan??
Lmao
I think it’s definitely related to Dravidian 🤔 or at least long contact with each other
گفت کیر🤣🤣🤣
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Oh gosh the Asians trying to connect to Ancient cultures with absolutely no connection to them is so cringe 💀 and the worst is that they appear in every video
Well, there is a theory about how elamite and dravidian languages might be from the same family. That's why there a lot of comments like that. So it's not completely out of nowhere.
I don't think it is accepted by most linguists tho
Wdym by “Asians”?
What (appa) is the same in malay
it's a coincidence actually because apa in malay comes from austronesia .But yes is the same meaning .
ŠšŠšŠšŠšŠ
نا ایرانی هایی که پیش از اومدن ایرانی ها اینجا زندگی میکردن
کیر😂😂😂😂