I hope Murray writes a book. He writes beautifully. I loved what he wrote about his connection to horses. I suppose he might feel more at home with animals because of the non-verbal communication. He can bond with them without words. The episode is so moving, I cried
I live with ASD. The closing remarks of the video, “but not being able to respond in time.” So relatable, and might I contribute my experience has been “not able to respond without offending/or a response that is more socially appropriate.”
@@giovannamoro8564 my son is very happy and has lots of hobbies, he goes to college and has lots of friends there but has shown no interest in having a girlfriend yet!
I'm semi verbal and really relate to what Chris said at the end of the video. I have processing delay and can't articulate myself on the spot. It feels like torture to always have people speak over me and for me. I have lots of epistemic trauma from it.
There's a massive influx of non-speaking people being allowed access to better communication now, and I truly think more people need to hear the perspectives of people like Murray. Too many autistic non-speaking people are assumed to have intelectual disabilities, but Murray and many others are showing that that isn't as common as we have all assumed it to be.
My son was diagnosed at two and was non verbal. Through years of speech therapy he talks and he is now in highschool and taking college courses. My five year old daughter is also autistic and my three year old is on the spectrum but is very high functioning. What he said at the end put me in tears....Years of everything Ive went through, what they go through. Its heartbreaking but liberating to know that we are not alone.
Even “high functioning” autistic people like myself need help. Don’t neglect her needs. She’s still struggling. Society often writes us off when we actually have the highest suicide rates. It’s insane how ignored we are.
I can't help but think of those who don't have access to AAC and are treated like they don't have their own thoughts and things to express. Supporting communication is so important.
Thank you for this...as an autism single parent, this somehow helps us in so many ways,to show to people that children with autism are just different not bad. Most people mistakenly addressed them as bad especially when they show different behaviour to public this is based on my experience many many times.
I was diagnosed at 26, even though I spend all my days alone I don't feel lonely I took up rowing and mountain running which I do daily that keeps me occupied, sometimes I just think what if I was neurotypical but when I look at society everyone gets led by one another it's very contagious no one really holds onto their true identity of who they are cause they get influenced by others actions and thought processors to the point they have to change their ways to fit in, I feel autism is a protective barrier maybe we were never meant to fit in and WHY Would we want to fit in to a society that's going crazy.
I think we are the sane ones Matty, if I was asked to describe how I felt I would say that I felt like a cat looking at a group of dogs with great confusion at the way that they socialise and not having a clue what they are doing or why they are doing it. At 48 I have accepted the fact that I’m an outcast but I still enjoy life and my interests.
@@jasonclarke7422 I agree, we definitely are the sane ones, we only have to see the negative impact society has had on the world, let's face it if mental illness isn't a form of evolution it's just a matter of time before everything's destroyed and we are all sat in between 4 modernistic walls twerking on tiktok 🤣🤣
It’s not a protective barrier I believe, but it does separate us from some common practices of neurotypicals. Obviously we aren’t any better than neurotypicals, but neurodiversity is always good for the world just like all other forms of diversity.
It's very interesting because I had autism and I sounded like an animal and I only spoke English at the age of 4 years and yes I think autism should be expected in society and it changed my life I'll never forget this moment watching this video 📹
I'm autistic and occasionally non speaking. For me I don't know what to say and because of my experiences with saying the wrong thing gets me into trouble and people become angry which is scary in an already overwhelming situation I'd ratger not talk. I view all verbal communication masking. Writing is easier but it's still strenuous and a form of masking. It takes a long time to recover after talking. I would rather express myself through art, I find most of what people say to be quite boring and I like to talk and listen about my intrests, not personal life and relationships and such, I find romance and friendships and family usually to be more trouble than they are worth because they don't understand me and I don't understand them. I like trees the best.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This was enlightening and informative. So much better than reading about autism in text books. I have learnt so much about two people's experiences I feel like my confidence is growing more after watching this.
I am just watching the series over on bbc iplayer. What Murray wrote about the horses breathing understanding gave me goosebumps. It was beautiful and amazing!
I’ve got Asperger’s syndrome which is high functioning autism the condition I have been diagnosed with it aged 4 And I’m now 27 years old and I’m still got that condition as of today
Every time I'm about to meet someone to have a day chill out an adult time.i get excited for the moment but yet deep inside my mind I begin to start to get nervous and my mind just completely shuts down. I don't mind the physical and mental communication of being around someone..the only thing that bothers me is that I want to be around whomever I feel comfortable but I don't wanna communicate I just wanna be around without saying anything..I get frustrated due to the fact that I've been autistic since birth but I was never diagnosed and nor did my family ever considered the fact that I was a little separated from everyone one..
Autistic here, I am a strong communicator & professional creative writer. But even I find when I shutdown, I just can't speak to anyone. Sending so much love to this family xxx
I myself am autistic and cannot argue with Murray that this country needs more awareness on autism and all other disabilities and conditions. We are entitled to the same level of respect and understanding that everyone else is. Now, I understand our social difficulties and we may accidently be a bit rude at time. And whilst I’m not saying our social difficulties give us the right to be rude, however, a bit more understanding and acceptance of our difficulties would be more appreciated.
"being heard" is a lot like "empowerment" in that its no substitute - though it is often used as one - for LIBERATION. Being heard is not enough if the people aren't listening and empowerment in an oppressive system is not the same as bringing that system down. So, for autistic people, its not enough to just explain what its like to people ad nasuem, or fight for basic concessions in the wider society like not being treated like dirt by institutions and strangers, its about people on a basic level having an understanding and patiance that allows 1) for a less brutal childhood 2) doesn't make wierdos of autistic people in adulthood. Years of that makes everything worse. In fact, there's even a bit of fetishisation going on especially in big business where they think autistic people are good with systems or numbers and lock them away to fondle spreadsheets all day. Again, empathy not sympathy or worse, pity. If 'autism' is going to be a thing at all, it shouldn't be seen as some kind of illness, its a natural variation in how peoples minds work, and should be respected as such. And I'd go so far as to say, that natural variation brought up in a harsh society makes it deviate, isolate or lash out even more, creating the illusion that it is an illness.
"In fact, there's even a bit of fetishisation going on especially in big business where they think autistic people are good with systems or numbers and lock them away to fondle spreadsheets all day." It is not fetishisation but simply looking for potential in a human resource to bring more profit to the companies. Which on paper, isn't something wrong: You offer potential to the companies, and in return the companies hire you and offer you wages. You work and get paid until you either retire, gets fired or find another company. What's iffy for some is that this could be considered as objectification: autistic traits are seen as means to the company's end goal of profit maximization. But I personally think so long as the compensation is fair there isn't morally questionable about it. Afterall life is about give and take. Then like you say, corporations tried to package it as doing some sort of positive service for autistic people, instead of bluntly saying "hey your traits can money for you and me". But that's marketing and PR.
autistic people are often huge bullies too . ive been bullied by autistic men all my life, some are very cruel and violent. i'm not sure who you think is going to make the world nice like you want it to be ? have you worked with wards full of autistic people ? everyone wants what they want and few can get it. just saying it should be nice doesnt answer this .. how do you handle violent autistic people ? drugs ? sedation ?
I really get that you have suffered, as an ex partner and parent of autistic people I understand the pain it is possible to go through but remember the trauma that they have gone through as kids and the effect that has on them. As someone who suffered abuse myself I started to become a bully in my youth-my Adhd caused added impulsiveness that didn’t help either. I managed to change but I’m pretty sure I would not have if I had been autistic and continued to be bullied and ostracised myself. It was moving schools, realising the consequences of my actions and last but not least being able to make friends and understanding social interactions that helped me become a better human being. My loved ones are good people but our individual trauma&impulsivity and inability to understand each other’s experience causes us all pain.
@@mythtree6348I’ve seen your comments on several of these videos now and in all of them you are denigrating autistic people. You clearly have a serious issue with people of our neurotype and I would encourage you to seek professional help and stop taking it out on innocent strangers.
I haven't seen the whole documentary but I feel that whenever autism is discussed, there's too much emphasis placed on the social and communication aspects of it. It's almost all you hear about. I'm more interested in the obsession with certain (often obscure) subjects, the need to perform certain tasks in a specific order and in a specific way, why autistic people need to process information and how they do it, etc.
He will hopefully cover some of that too, be patient. Lots online too, think how useful it is in many situations like Packhams work as per the intro, natural selection at work
Non speaking people are rarely given a voice in the media. its important to hear what they have to say because the autism spectrum is not linear and too often people think non-verbal autistic people are low functioning. They do address task order and and processing in part 2. its only a short two part series so they can't cover everything but I am very happy to hear Murrays story and wish there was more of this content.
I'm autistic ADHD and though I can usually speak my mind, I frequently experience processing delays during social conversations. So while I can hear everything (incl every tiny noise in the space around who's speaking), it can be enormous pressure to respond 'appropriately' to social cues when I'm challenged to piece together the slew of auditory details and extract what's actually needed. Often ater a social event, I need alone time with sound blocking to essentially clear my brain's sound cache. And if I'm pressed to sustain more social time past breaking point (never a healthy thing), no matter how much I want to respond, it's physically painful and mentally impossible to speak. I'll have the words half-baked but my body won't follow through. Some call it 'selective mutism' but there's nothing about it that I'm choosing. When I have the energy, writing out my thoughts and using other nonverbal forms of communication are immensely useful alternatives to speaking with others.
I feel like when we converse with autistic people about autism, the only ones who ever get the chance to speak are the ones with low support needs and the *caretakers* of ones with high support needs. It makes me happy to see actual effort being put into having a conversation directly with nonverbal autists. Also, I'm not sure if it was the case during this recording, but I've heard some high support needs autists say they prefer the term nonverbal to refer to those who've never been able to speak, not those who suffer episodes of speech loss or speak minimally. While the distinction is confusing even to me as an autistic, I think its important we acknowledge their preferred language.
Please please can anyone help! The national autistic society are closing down all respite facilities at the Robert Ogden in thurnscoe south Yorkshire, we have only been given 30 days notice! Caroline Stevenson has made the reckless decision based on finance, some children are now suicidal because of the imminent closure, some parents will be on itv calendar news and BBC look north on the 3/7/23 If anyone can help you will be helping young people to manage navigate through a difficult world.
i'm thinking about the older i get the more non verbal i become. i value connection and feel non autistic people talk to hear their own voices and never to deliver useful information. im high functioning and people have always told me to shut up or that i was wrong because i didn't talk in a pleasing tone to them, so i've lost interest in talking.
Thank you Very Much Chris Pacham.They should be Absolutely Accepted in todays Society. But problem is People are too Stupid and too Brutaly Dam Ignorant.
Where he got the help for collected words in tablet to write what he feels and how did he learn how he learn the alphabet?! Can you please tell us about that . My brother also none-verbal ( we are Turkish) where can I get help to direct me ! Need a help . Thank you
I wonder if there is some way for him to feel more comfortable. I wanted to scream when that woman touched him, she is adding to the overwhelm. I wish I could see this whole episode. I hope he is OK
Not necessarily, she said the arm on his shoulder helps him locate his arm so he can communicate using his ipad. He has challenges with where his body is in space and locating parts of his body. Also it's probably that not all touch will be overwhelming in every situation for him especially expected touch in an agreed place from a trusted person, I would hope that he has articulated his preferences and she is following what he has said, which is that it is helpful.
i remember going with my cousin decades ago to his doctor, who showed us this book about skull variations in autistic people; there seems to be a correlation with flatter temporal bone development so while "normal" people have "rounder" skull, autistic people have a "cuboidal" skull. anyone came across this?? forgot the book, it was around 20 years ago
Parents need to back off stop touching him and stop speaking into his head while he is trying to think. Don't they see it hurts him?.. I am severely Autistic and I am personally against this over-assistance. I like to be independent as much as possible. Everyone is different of course but adding stimuli such as touch or sound when person is already anxious and overwhelmed is a bad idea.
So he had “dyspraxia… supposedly fine motor neurological. But… Wondering has anyone in his care team considered something such as Ehlers Danlos Syndrome? Potentially the connective tissue is the issue with his lack of ability to manipulate hands and throat muscles due to laxity in the tissue and joints and muscles not getting the support necessary? We cal it autism, but is it? Is it EDS?
A lot of autistics have EDS, and vice versa. I have both. It’s quite possible that Murray has hypermobility but this would not cause motor control issues to the extent seen here. This appears to be a fairly typical presentation of nonspeaking autism without comorbid intellectual disability. While both EDS and autism can be mistaken for a variety of other conditions, have never come across the notion that EDS could be mistaken for autism. I do not think that is possible in the slightest.
I hate to be this person, but it must be said: Where are the black and brown people? Where are the women, femmes, and nonbinary people? I will always support education and awareness efforts, since there really isn't as much understanding, basic respect, or resources aimed at autism-specific efforts for adults, in my opinion, but this cannot continue to be overlooked. It is great to have featured these individuals for this project, but gaining knowledge from a wider pool of people also matters. Edit: At 2:31, I think Murray himself says it best: *"I would like to speak on behalf of people who have autism, and for people who have difficulty in speaking. Every person with autism should be made welcome to contribute to the world as much as those who consider themselves intellectually superior."*
The first clip from the full show (which has only just started airing) featured a woman.... *Update* Just watched the first episode - the intro features women/girls/men/boys - some are also POC, like myself. The first episode actually talks about the underrepresentation of autistic women/girls, and features a state-run girls school, which exclusively enrolls autistic children. The second episode, features a black, autistic rapper/musician also (it would appear that each episode focuses primarily on 2 specific people, and their experiences with being autistic).
He said “every person with autism should be made welcome to contribute to the world as much as those who consider themselves intellectually superior”. Where’s the lie? He didn’t say anything about social difficulties.
@@therespectedlex9794 i wouldn’t say that is totally accurate. Social and communication issues are big parts of it of course but there are many other facets like sensory issues, motor skills, executive function and information processing. Still not clear on what your point is. He isn’t trying to say he or anyone else is intellectually superior.
@redbirddeerjazz Yes there are those other issues, for autistic people. I never contradicted that. I suppose I'm saying that he is already intellectual, so being intellectually inferior is not the issue. There probably are more subtle things to do with his IQ and cognitive ability, that you could call intellectually poor. To be honest with you, I think it's you who is being a tad zealous. I don't always like to admit fault on YT myself, but maybe you could about this.
@@therespectedlex9794 i’m sorry if I appear zealous. There are no hard feelings here. I may sound blunt on account of being autistic. I’ll absolutely admit fault if I understand where my fault lies, but I’m still unsure. Perhaps due to cognitive/information processing difficulties, again related to autism.
Oh yes he is. I’m diagnosed with ASD and would in the past have been diagnosed as “Asperger’s” and he has shows the exact signs. Your opinion is meaningless as much of the Autistic experience relates to how we experience the world, relate etc differently from you but it’s internal, requiring a psychologist to identify it.
We are all children of man no matter what difficulties we have and will face in the future we must love each other and understand one another in a way animals couldnt what does make us thus any wiser from them if we cant?
we are financially so bankrupt we can never pay it off . .our standard of living is about to plummet .. as is our diet and healthcare which is a major factor in austism . How are you going to make it nice for all the autistic people ? its clearly going to have to be some kind of monastery or mental ward / workhouse typ setup.. do you think china will want millions of autistic westerners ? what will they do with us ? they have no use for tibtans sadly .. and those people were awesome.
@@jhunt5578 Speak for yourself. You cant change the world but you can change yourself and the way you think thus you make people around you being happy and loved!
I hope Murray writes a book. He writes beautifully. I loved what he wrote about his connection to horses. I suppose he might feel more at home with animals because of the non-verbal communication. He can bond with them without words. The episode is so moving, I cried
That is very good to hear
I live with ASD. The closing remarks of the video, “but not being able to respond in time.” So relatable, and might I contribute my experience has been “not able to respond without offending/or a response that is more socially appropriate.”
Faux pas, our speciality. Go with it!
thank you for this! my son is autistic and mostly non verbal and he understands a lot more than people give him credit for.
I'm 8 and I have it
Hello , is your son depressed? Does he make you understand that he would like to have friends ,to socialize ,marry ? Does he have interests?
@@giovannamoro8564 my son is very happy and has lots of hobbies, he goes to college and has lots of friends there but has shown no interest in having a girlfriend yet!
Sameeee
Same for my son, but most people don't see it or care to try.
I'm semi verbal and really relate to what Chris said at the end of the video. I have processing delay and can't articulate myself on the spot. It feels like torture to always have people speak over me and for me. I have lots of epistemic trauma from it.
There's a massive influx of non-speaking people being allowed access to better communication now, and I truly think more people need to hear the perspectives of people like Murray. Too many autistic non-speaking people are assumed to have intelectual disabilities, but Murray and many others are showing that that isn't as common as we have all assumed it to be.
My son was diagnosed at two and was non verbal. Through years of speech therapy he talks and he is now in highschool and taking college courses. My five year old daughter is also autistic and my three year old is on the spectrum but is very high functioning. What he said at the end put me in tears....Years of everything Ive went through, what they go through. Its heartbreaking but liberating to know that we are not alone.
You have done amazing you should be so proud. 😊
Even “high functioning” autistic people like myself need help. Don’t neglect her needs. She’s still struggling. Society often writes us off when we actually have the highest suicide rates. It’s insane how ignored we are.
My daughter is about to be diagnosed with autism. She says a few Words. I am terrified for her, and our family.
@@melindae5944 It will be okay. Support her and love her unconditionally and never give up. ❤️
I can't help but think of those who don't have access to AAC and are treated like they don't have their own thoughts and things to express. Supporting communication is so important.
Ohhh that hit me hard. He wants so much to communicate.
Thank you for this...as an autism single parent, this somehow helps us in so many ways,to show to people that children with autism are just different not bad. Most people mistakenly addressed them as bad especially when they show different behaviour to public this is based on my experience many many times.
I have a learning disability partially sighted and autism
We are all human beings and should be treated like one and with respect
I’m autistic and I agree, autism should be accepted by society
OK, Zuck.
At least you're a billionaire
I'm autistic too. It should be a non-issue, part of human diversity, accepted and appreciated.
Couldn't agree more from a fellow neurodivergent person. 👍 Remember to stay hydrated ! Have a great day !
@@jimmyfiredragon8582 Best wishes Jimmy and best wishes Mark, Peter
I was diagnosed at 26, even though I spend all my days alone I don't feel lonely I took up rowing and mountain running which I do daily that keeps me occupied, sometimes I just think what if I was neurotypical but when I look at society everyone gets led by one another it's very contagious no one really holds onto their true identity of who they are cause they get influenced by others actions and thought processors to the point they have to change their ways to fit in, I feel autism is a protective barrier maybe we were never meant to fit in and WHY Would we want to fit in to a society that's going crazy.
True Matty, self-acceptance can be a liberation.
I think we are the sane ones Matty, if I was asked to describe how I felt I would say that I felt like a cat looking at a group of dogs with great confusion at the way that they socialise and not having a clue what they are doing or why they are doing it. At 48 I have accepted the fact that I’m an outcast but I still enjoy life and my interests.
@@jasonclarke7422 I agree, we definitely are the sane ones, we only have to see the negative impact society has had on the world, let's face it if mental illness isn't a form of evolution it's just a matter of time before everything's destroyed and we are all sat in between 4 modernistic walls twerking on tiktok 🤣🤣
@@Matty-fl2tu 🤣 Never a truer word spoken.
It’s not a protective barrier I believe, but it does separate us from some common practices of neurotypicals. Obviously we aren’t any better than neurotypicals, but neurodiversity is always good for the world just like all other forms of diversity.
It's very interesting because I had autism and I sounded like an animal and I only spoke English at the age of 4 years and yes I think autism should be expected in society and it changed my life I'll never forget this moment watching this video 📹
Its a shame you can not watch this anywhere else but BBC.
Murray is such a sensitive soul😊
I'm autistic and occasionally non speaking. For me I don't know what to say and because of my experiences with saying the wrong thing gets me into trouble and people become angry which is scary in an already overwhelming situation I'd ratger not talk. I view all verbal communication masking. Writing is easier but it's still strenuous and a form of masking. It takes a long time to recover after talking. I would rather express myself through art, I find most of what people say to be quite boring and I like to talk and listen about my intrests, not personal life and relationships and such, I find romance and friendships and family usually to be more trouble than they are worth because they don't understand me and I don't understand them. I like trees the best.
I love trees.
I love trees too
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This was enlightening and informative. So much better than reading about autism in text books. I have learnt so much about two people's experiences I feel like my confidence is growing more after watching this.
I am just watching the series over on bbc iplayer. What Murray wrote about the horses breathing understanding gave me goosebumps. It was beautiful and amazing!
I'm a carer, who works with autistic clients, and I think this documentary should be used in our training. I have learnt so much from it x
All companies should include some training in disability. Or as my son says to walk in the shoes
I’ve got Asperger’s syndrome which is high functioning autism the condition I have been diagnosed with it aged 4
And I’m now 27 years old and I’m still got that condition as of today
Every time I'm about to meet someone to have a day chill out an adult time.i get excited for the moment but yet deep inside my mind I begin to start to get nervous and my mind just completely shuts down.
I don't mind the physical and mental communication of being around someone..the only thing that bothers me is that I want to be around whomever I feel comfortable but I don't wanna communicate I just wanna be around without saying anything..I get frustrated due to the fact that I've been autistic since birth but I was never diagnosed and nor did my family ever considered the fact that I was a little separated from everyone one..
Autistic here, I am a strong communicator & professional creative writer. But even I find when I shutdown, I just can't speak to anyone. Sending so much love to this family xxx
I myself am autistic and cannot argue with Murray that this country needs more awareness on autism and all other disabilities and conditions. We are entitled to the same level of respect and understanding that everyone else is. Now, I understand our social difficulties and we may accidently be a bit rude at time. And whilst I’m not saying our social difficulties give us the right to be rude, however, a bit more understanding and acceptance of our difficulties would be more appreciated.
"being heard" is a lot like "empowerment" in that its no substitute - though it is often used as one - for LIBERATION. Being heard is not enough if the people aren't listening and empowerment in an oppressive system is not the same as bringing that system down.
So, for autistic people, its not enough to just explain what its like to people ad nasuem, or fight for basic concessions in the wider society like not being treated like dirt by institutions and strangers, its about people on a basic level having an understanding and patiance that allows 1) for a less brutal childhood 2) doesn't make wierdos of autistic people in adulthood. Years of that makes everything worse.
In fact, there's even a bit of fetishisation going on especially in big business where they think autistic people are good with systems or numbers and lock them away to fondle spreadsheets all day. Again, empathy not sympathy or worse, pity. If 'autism' is going to be a thing at all, it shouldn't be seen as some kind of illness, its a natural variation in how peoples minds work, and should be respected as such. And I'd go so far as to say, that natural variation brought up in a harsh society makes it deviate, isolate or lash out even more, creating the illusion that it is an illness.
"In fact, there's even a bit of fetishisation going on especially in big business where they think autistic people are good with systems or numbers and lock them away to fondle spreadsheets all day."
It is not fetishisation but simply looking for potential in a human resource to bring more profit to the companies. Which on paper, isn't something wrong: You offer potential to the companies, and in return the companies hire you and offer you wages. You work and get paid until you either retire, gets fired or find another company.
What's iffy for some is that this could be considered as objectification: autistic traits are seen as means to the company's end goal of profit maximization. But I personally think so long as the compensation is fair there isn't morally questionable about it. Afterall life is about give and take.
Then like you say, corporations tried to package it as doing some sort of positive service for autistic people, instead of bluntly saying "hey your traits can money for you and me". But that's marketing and PR.
Autism is just a spectrum we're all on
autistic people are often huge bullies too . ive been bullied by autistic men all my life, some are very cruel and violent. i'm not sure who you think is going to make the world nice like you want it to be ? have you worked with wards full of autistic people ? everyone wants what they want and few can get it. just saying it should be nice doesnt answer this .. how do you handle violent autistic people ? drugs ? sedation ?
I really get that you have suffered, as an ex partner and parent of autistic people I understand the pain it is possible to go through but remember the trauma that they have gone through as kids and the effect that has on them. As someone who suffered abuse myself I started to become a bully in my youth-my Adhd caused added impulsiveness that didn’t help either. I managed to change but I’m pretty sure I would not have if I had been autistic and continued to be bullied and ostracised myself. It was moving schools, realising the consequences of my actions and last but not least being able to make friends and understanding social interactions that helped me become a better human being. My loved ones are good people but our individual trauma&impulsivity and inability to understand each other’s experience causes us all pain.
@@mythtree6348I’ve seen your comments on several of these videos now and in all of them you are denigrating autistic people. You clearly have a serious issue with people of our neurotype and I would encourage you to seek professional help and stop taking it out on innocent strangers.
I haven't seen the whole documentary but I feel that whenever autism is discussed, there's too much emphasis placed on the social and communication aspects of it. It's almost all you hear about. I'm more interested in the obsession with certain (often obscure) subjects, the need to perform certain tasks in a specific order and in a specific way, why autistic people need to process information and how they do it, etc.
He will hopefully cover some of that too, be patient. Lots online too, think how useful it is in many situations like Packhams work as per the intro, natural selection at work
Ep 2 is about that
Non speaking people are rarely given a voice in the media. its important to hear what they have to say because the autism spectrum is not linear and too often people think non-verbal autistic people are low functioning. They do address task order and and processing in part 2. its only a short two part series so they can't cover everything but I am very happy to hear Murrays story and wish there was more of this content.
I'm autistic ADHD and though I can usually speak my mind, I frequently experience processing delays during social conversations. So while I can hear everything (incl every tiny noise in the space around who's speaking), it can be enormous pressure to respond 'appropriately' to social cues when I'm challenged to piece together the slew of auditory details and extract what's actually needed. Often ater a social event, I need alone time with sound blocking to essentially clear my brain's sound cache. And if I'm pressed to sustain more social time past breaking point (never a healthy thing), no matter how much I want to respond, it's physically painful and mentally impossible to speak. I'll have the words half-baked but my body won't follow through. Some call it 'selective mutism' but there's nothing about it that I'm choosing. When I have the energy, writing out my thoughts and using other nonverbal forms of communication are immensely useful alternatives to speaking with others.
I feel like when we converse with autistic people about autism, the only ones who ever get the chance to speak are the ones with low support needs and the *caretakers* of ones with high support needs. It makes me happy to see actual effort being put into having a conversation directly with nonverbal autists.
Also, I'm not sure if it was the case during this recording, but I've heard some high support needs autists say they prefer the term nonverbal to refer to those who've never been able to speak, not those who suffer episodes of speech loss or speak minimally. While the distinction is confusing even to me as an autistic, I think its important we acknowledge their preferred language.
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I love this very much and can't wait for April to come.💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
We have autism in our family, but my great nephew is non-verbal. It's a whole other challenge! (and he's an absolute sweetie) :)
Thanks for making this
I have dyspraxia and occasionally it causes speech problems. It is torture to not be able to explain my thoughts the way I think them
I’m autistic and I’ve been autistic my whole life
Of course, he´s intelligent, don´t sound so surprised!!!
Is There Any Way To Watch These Episodes In Ireland? :\
Could u show the next part plz.
Thanks so so important.
Please please can anyone help!
The national autistic society are closing down all respite facilities at the Robert Ogden in thurnscoe south Yorkshire, we have only been given 30 days notice!
Caroline Stevenson has made the reckless decision based on finance, some children are now suicidal because of the imminent closure, some parents will be on itv calendar news and BBC look north on the 3/7/23
If anyone can help you will be helping young people to manage navigate through a difficult world.
My little girl lily has autism and globe development delay speech delay but now is talking a little bit. I'm am so scared for her future with school.
I was non verbal too until i was 4 years old :(
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Where can I watch the documentary in its entirety? (I’m based outside the UK)
Does he need support in activities of daily living? I live outside the UK and can't watch the full episode.
i'm thinking about the older i get the more non verbal i become. i value connection and feel non autistic people talk to hear their own voices and never to deliver useful information. im high functioning and people have always told me to shut up or that i was wrong because i didn't talk in a pleasing tone to them, so i've lost interest in talking.
Murray is handsome! 😍😍
Ye and a beautiful shy manner I thought
@@narinda108 As far as he's good in bed, i don't care if he's silent all the time!
Thank you Very Much Chris Pacham.They should be Absolutely Accepted in todays Society. But problem is People are too Stupid and too Brutaly Dam Ignorant.
Where he got the help for collected words in tablet to write what he feels and how did he learn how he learn the alphabet?! Can you please tell us about that . My brother also none-verbal ( we are Turkish) where can I get help to direct me ! Need a help . Thank you
where to watch fully im in ireland
BBC select maybe ?
I wonder if there is some way for him to feel more comfortable. I wanted to scream when that woman touched him, she is adding to the overwhelm. I wish I could see this whole episode. I hope he is OK
Not necessarily, she said the arm on his shoulder helps him locate his arm so he can communicate using his ipad. He has challenges with where his body is in space and locating parts of his body. Also it's probably that not all touch will be overwhelming in every situation for him especially expected touch in an agreed place from a trusted person, I would hope that he has articulated his preferences and she is following what he has said, which is that it is helpful.
@@eleanorludlow8869 I hope you're right!
US release?
Thank You 😪...😏
...hmm... some parts like me.
how can i get this video on spanish?
Autism doesn't mean that you have something interesting to say.
You can read with reading glasses in a moving car?! Lucky! Just thinking about that makes me ill.
i remember going with my cousin decades ago to his doctor, who showed us this book about skull variations in autistic people; there seems to be a correlation with flatter temporal bone development so while "normal" people have "rounder" skull, autistic people have a "cuboidal" skull. anyone came across this?? forgot the book, it was around 20 years ago
Parents need to back off stop touching him and stop speaking into his head while he is trying to think. Don't they see it hurts him?.. I am severely Autistic and I am personally against this over-assistance. I like to be independent as much as possible. Everyone is different of course but adding stimuli such as touch or sound when person is already anxious and overwhelmed is a bad idea.
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So he had “dyspraxia… supposedly fine motor neurological. But… Wondering has anyone in his care team considered something such as Ehlers Danlos Syndrome? Potentially the connective tissue is the issue with his lack of ability to manipulate hands and throat muscles due to laxity in the tissue and joints and muscles not getting the support necessary? We cal it autism, but is it? Is it EDS?
A lot of autistics have EDS, and vice versa. I have both. It’s quite possible that Murray has hypermobility but this would not cause motor control issues to the extent seen here. This appears to be a fairly typical presentation of nonspeaking autism without comorbid intellectual disability. While both EDS and autism can be mistaken for a variety of other conditions, have never come across the notion that EDS could be mistaken for autism. I do not think that is possible in the slightest.
I hate to be this person, but it must be said: Where are the black and brown people? Where are the women, femmes, and nonbinary people? I will always support education and awareness efforts, since there really isn't as much understanding, basic respect, or resources aimed at autism-specific efforts for adults, in my opinion, but this cannot continue to be overlooked. It is great to have featured these individuals for this project, but gaining knowledge from a wider pool of people also matters.
Edit: At 2:31, I think Murray himself says it best: *"I would like to speak on behalf of people who have autism, and for people who have difficulty in speaking. Every person with autism should be made welcome to contribute to the world as much as those who consider themselves intellectually superior."*
Whats your point?
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They only had like 2 people in the bit here not a lot of room for diversity
The first clip from the full show (which has only just started airing) featured a woman....
*Update* Just watched the first episode - the intro features women/girls/men/boys - some are also POC, like myself.
The first episode actually talks about the underrepresentation of autistic women/girls, and features a state-run girls school, which exclusively enrolls autistic children.
The second episode, features a black, autistic rapper/musician also (it would appear that each episode focuses primarily on 2 specific people, and their experiences with being autistic).
Have you actually seen the whole doc?
Why did Murray type intellectully superior? It's not, autism is socially inferior. The first thing I thought was that this man could be a savant.
He said “every person with autism should be made welcome to contribute to the world as much as those who consider themselves intellectually superior”. Where’s the lie? He didn’t say anything about social difficulties.
@redbirddeerjazz Well that's my point, because it is mainly a social and communication disorder.
@@therespectedlex9794 i wouldn’t say that is totally accurate. Social and communication issues are big parts of it of course but there are many other facets like sensory issues, motor skills, executive function and information processing. Still not clear on what your point is. He isn’t trying to say he or anyone else is intellectually superior.
@redbirddeerjazz Yes there are those other issues, for autistic people. I never contradicted that. I suppose I'm saying that he is already intellectual, so being intellectually inferior is not the issue. There probably are more subtle things to do with his IQ and cognitive ability, that you could call intellectually poor. To be honest with you, I think it's you who is being a tad zealous. I don't always like to admit fault on YT myself, but maybe you could about this.
@@therespectedlex9794 i’m sorry if I appear zealous. There are no hard feelings here. I may sound blunt on account of being autistic. I’ll absolutely admit fault if I understand where my fault lies, but I’m still unsure. Perhaps due to cognitive/information processing difficulties, again related to autism.
Heard enough from Chris Chan, thank you.
If you’ve met one person with autism, then you’ve met just one person with autism.
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I'm not autistic but because of that I can see that Chris is not Autistic
…what
Oh yes he is. I’m diagnosed with ASD and would in the past have been diagnosed as “Asperger’s” and he has shows the exact signs. Your opinion is meaningless as much of the Autistic experience relates to how we experience the world, relate etc differently from you but it’s internal, requiring a psychologist to identify it.
We are all children of man no matter what difficulties we have and will face in the future we must love each other and understand one another in a way animals couldnt what does make us thus any wiser from them if we cant?
No other species has massacred its own more than the human race. You insult the other animals by suggesting we are superior in this regard.
we are financially so bankrupt we can never pay it off . .our standard of living is about to plummet .. as is our diet and healthcare which is a major factor in austism . How are you going to make it nice for all the autistic people ? its clearly going to have to be some kind of monastery or mental ward / workhouse typ setup.. do you think china will want millions of autistic westerners ? what will they do with us ? they have no use for tibtans sadly .. and those people were awesome.
@@mythtree6348 Open your mind and ask it yourself.
@@jhunt5578 Speak for yourself.
You cant change the world but you can change yourself and the way you think thus you make people around you being happy and loved!
@@Dariusuzu You didn't address my point at all. I respect animals as well as humans.