When I was a white belt a tried to start a roll from turtle and the upper belt asked me what I was doing and lectured me to not ever do it again. Now I think, what a doosh!
I love how Telles seems to be constantly running a "proof of concept" experiment every time he grapples. No wonder his style was dubbed "weird jiu-jitsu" in Brazil. And here he is against another weird jiu-jitsu proponent in Keenan. I like to imagine the TT Team had continued with Telles and Terere as coaches.
Galvao was part of TT too, he’s coaching Keenan here and telles looks at him n smiles when Keenan is setting up worm guard - n all three Keenan Galvao telles laugh
o Telles é sinistro luta no meio da mulecada e faz bonito,porém o tipo de guarda que ele usa acaba tomando muitas vantagens e no jiu jitsu atual a vantagem faz a diferença...parabens Telles sempre admirei seu jiu jitsu!!!
Acho que o Telles luta por prazer quer se divertir provar que seu jogo mesmo sendo defensivo e embromador, também é perigoso em uma luta sem tempo ,poder sim ter efetividade , ele não quer ganhar do adversário ele quer que o adversário perca pra ele kkk, vai embromar se vacilar ou cansar ele pega mais infelizmente ae é uma competição e como tal existe os pontos etc...
Então... eu sei que o Telles é um casca grossa, muito inteligente e com um Jiu-Jitsu único... mas me digam uma coisa; Qual é o objetivo dele quando entra em uma luta?!
tava pensando nisso...ele é o único que entra em campeonato pra não lutar....kkkkk....brincadeira a parte, acho q se ele fosse mais pra cima ia ser sinistro! mas....quem sou eu pra julgar o cara
Giovani Gazolla espera o vacilo do oponente, o problema é que da um monte de vantagem para oponente toda vez que fica de barriga para baixo. Kkkkkk mas é engraçado mesmo kk o cara só se defende kkkk
zlongshark Yes it does but seems to have some worm elements to it since the leg was fed all the way through and sweep seems to lead you straight to the armlock situation (9:35), or can even of course lead to a mount or back take. Not quite sure though..
9:10 was a reverse de la worm using the closer lapel instead of the outside lapel. This is the same guard structure he used at this same tournament to hit the worm bar.
Most bbj instructors will tell you to hurry up and get the hell out of turtle and to never expose your back. But for someone who has the free reign to develop it without thier teacher going bizerk on them every time they turtle it really can be developed into something special. Go watch Eduardo telles highlight video, its amazing. hes my favorite to watch especially in an era where double guard pulls and two guys berimboling each other at the same time is so prevalent.
So does Telles ever aggressively attack ? How does he plan to win his matches ? He has an amazing ability to maintain guard and keep people from collecting points
@@beauchapman4155 that’s not something you go to black belt champion comps for. That’s like people who hold their breathe till the buzzer just to say they haven’t been choked. I feel like Telles is much more than that.
This was a tournament final so he beat a bunch of dudes to be here.. he actually reversed Keenan in this match. He just couldn’t pass worm guard Generally the turtle attacks require a strong attack from your opponent if they just chill with their body weight back it’s really hard to reverse but it’s also impossible for them to attack you… generally near the end telles will suddenly surprise with wrestling or some unique attack
In the past they fight to make the opponent tapout, in the present they fight to make points and see who has more flexbility in the ass hole ! Miss the old school !
I don't understand why my fellow jiu jitsu players want to play from a negative position, it's common sense type stuff, Rodolfo wins easy with passing and smashing and he is rarely tired or having to come back in points because he bullied around having guys more dominant positions, cyborg abreu puzzles me too because his freestyle wrestling is above average but he always wants to play from bottom then scramble to come back at the end
+Rugged Dre Louris they go in with "gameplans" and they watch tape to get an advantage over opponents, which is why you may see some awkward techniques. Both fighters here have very unorthodox styles and they were each attempting to be creative and out-think the other.
I understand being creative but it's also culture, meaning I love alot of things bout brazil but the wrestling is not good over there, they had helio gracie bottom jiu jitsu influence too
There judo I think has to be in the top 5 of thee world as far as Olympic and world championships medals ranking, Japan 1, France 2, Russia/ Soviet Union 3, Brazil maybe 4....
But it's funny with the gracie family split in top vs bottom, rickson trained under rolls and he works both top and button but helio side works the bottom and carlos and carlson side works more of the top
I think its great. i wish it was encouraged more. Everytime ive tried to develop a game from turtle it actually has backlashed because every coach ive had would think that I blindly have no clue as to what im trying to accomplish and yell at me everytime I turtle. So therefore ive never been in an environment where I can actively try and pursue that kind of game.
Onpy a man like Terere could have caused a man to have a defense like this... ... Or maybe it was that woman yelling like nails on a chalkboard throughout the whole video...
Glad keenan won. At first i was astonished by telles’ positioning and retention, but eventually got dissapointed with his gameplan. Didn’t turn his scrambles into any offense and only blocked his opponent for the majority of the time.
Being a BJJ practitioner I have to admire their skill...but MAN WAS THAT BORING!!! They are killing the whole martial art aspect with this kind of "fighting". I understand how good they are but if I saw this 10 years ago I would NEVER start doing Jiu Jitsu....
I would say if anything it's the rules of the sport that are causing people to develop styles of jiu jitsu that work the point system to their advantage. Telles' style is very relaxed and his style helped him neutralize the more aggressive styles of jiu jitsu. He's been around competing at black belt for over 13 years and has placed at many big tournaments including Pan-Ams; and at 38 years-old he finally won the Worlds at No Gi in 2013. It's rare you see someone his age competing with the young guys.
***** Have to say though that Turtle guard is anything but a point scoring system. Playing turtle guard you give up advantages like crazy, your sweeps are usually not counted as sweeps... if there is a guard that doesn't work the point system, that's got to be it.
Telles has fought MMA. This was not how he approached that competition. This is a sport, and his ideas are unique. He could use traditional techniques and beat 99% of blackbelts. But at this super high level, this relaxed style has allowed him to continue to enter the 18-29 category and stay relatively uninjured. If his opponent makes a mistake, he's quick to take advantage.
Haha, what's this guy's motive with this style? Even when he has an opportunity to reverse or attack he reverts back to his turtle. I think he wants to love your head with his butt
Otavio Almeida If you'd actually watch the fight you'd notice that he got choked off of a worm guard sweep, his turtle guard was 100% effective (at staving off passes) for the duration of the fight.
Telles and Keenan could kick 99% of guys' asses if they needed to, Telles has done mma. This was a test of weird styles, and they had beaten the rest of the bracket to get here.
Eduardo Telles showing his mastery of a system that doesn't get enough attention from newer generations. What a pleasure to watch!
Could not agree more!!!
No one really moves like him. Such an interesting style.
because it requires maturity
so nice to see two gentlemen smiling in the middle of an heated final at 8:40
My coach thought I was crazy that I wanted to model my game after Eduardo Telles but eventually he gave into the idea. Man’s a legend. ✊✊✊
Turtle Zeus. I’m sure you’ve seen them but check out Priit Mihkeson’s videos about turtle position.
Keep doing Bro, same thing with me, I'm the only I know among training partners who do this game.
Yo players. Where can I learn more about this style?
How is this working out? I just keep getting submitted 😭
@@JohnSmith-pg9ns he has a series on i believe World marital arts and then on BJJ fanatics
Telles guard recovery is incredible.. That's some crazy turtle mastery
Turtle Zeus!!!!
An amazing display of modern defensive mechanisms existing today in the sport of BJJ.
When I was a white belt a tried to start a roll from turtle and the upper belt asked me what I was doing and lectured me to not ever do it again. Now I think, what a doosh!
Always loved playing turtle guard, learned from experimentation...and Eduardo's dvd set
What's the name?
@@JohnSmith-pg9ns AC
@@tiemanschnitzel7940 the DVD set name
@@JohnSmith-pg9ns Lol thought you might be an old training partner. Eduardo Telles Turtle Guard I think. It's been awhile.
I love how Telles seems to be constantly running a "proof of concept" experiment every time he grapples. No wonder his style was dubbed "weird jiu-jitsu" in Brazil. And here he is against another weird jiu-jitsu proponent in Keenan. I like to imagine the TT Team had continued with Telles and Terere as coaches.
Galvao was part of TT too, he’s coaching Keenan here and telles looks at him n smiles when Keenan is setting up worm guard - n all three Keenan Galvao telles laugh
@@user-vc6 That is a cool observation. The guys from Alliance and then TT, Brasa, Atos, CTA, etc. are and were phenomenal innovators.
awesome turtle guard. perhaps eduardo telles is the only man in the world that can play something like that.
The turtle walks slow, but lives for 100 years!
Holly... Telles is my new hero.
eduardo has crazy flexibilty. he's got a weird guard. defends well.
This must have been so frustrating for Keenan lol.
Telles is a defensive wizard!
o Telles é sinistro luta no meio da mulecada e faz bonito,porém o tipo de guarda que ele usa acaba tomando muitas vantagens e no jiu jitsu atual a vantagem faz a diferença...parabens Telles sempre admirei seu jiu jitsu!!!
oswaldo retti Essas vantagens são ridículas.
Acho que o Telles luta por prazer quer se divertir provar que seu jogo mesmo sendo defensivo e embromador, também é perigoso em uma luta sem tempo ,poder sim ter efetividade , ele não quer ganhar do adversário ele quer que o adversário perca pra ele kkk, vai embromar se vacilar ou cansar ele pega mais infelizmente ae é uma competição e como tal existe os pontos etc...
masterclass by telles , loved it!
Telles es una Maestro de Maestros. Se atrevió a luchar de una manera diferente y así aporto mucho al Jiujitsu.
What was the score??
eduardo is the real hero in a half shell 😄
Então... eu sei que o Telles é um casca grossa, muito inteligente e com um Jiu-Jitsu único... mas me digam uma coisa; Qual é o objetivo dele quando entra em uma luta?!
tava pensando nisso...ele é o único que entra em campeonato pra não lutar....kkkkk....brincadeira a parte, acho q se ele fosse mais pra cima ia ser sinistro! mas....quem sou eu pra julgar o cara
Giovani Gazolla Está aí uma boa pergunta.
Giovani Gazolla Prazer de lutar, só isso.
Giovani Gazolla espera o vacilo do oponente, o problema é que da um monte de vantagem para oponente toda vez que fica de barriga para baixo. Kkkkkk mas é engraçado mesmo kk o cara só se defende kkkk
Lembrando que ele ganhou do Felipe Pena no gi numa final em 2016 se nao me engano
BJJSCOUT What was that at 9:10 ?
Looks like a outside lapel guard.
zlongshark
Yes it does but seems to have some worm elements to it since the leg was fed all the way through and sweep seems to lead you straight to the armlock situation (9:35), or can even of course lead to a mount or back take. Not quite sure though..
9:10 was a reverse de la worm using the closer lapel instead of the outside lapel. This is the same guard structure he used at this same tournament to hit the worm bar.
heeuh???
What was the scooree??
That turtle guard is amazing!
eduardo looks like he is flow rolling at the start, just kinda let the pass happen.
What pass? 😂😂😂
That is such a unique style! And against keenan no less!
I like Telles style
Can the Turtle Guard be offensive or is it just to escape?
It can be offensive with at least half a dozen sweeps and submissions.
Most bbj instructors will tell you to hurry up and get the hell out of turtle and to never expose your back. But for someone who has the free reign to develop it without thier teacher going bizerk on them every time they turtle it really can be developed into something special. Go watch Eduardo telles highlight video, its amazing. hes my favorite to watch especially in an era where double guard pulls and two guys berimboling each other at the same time is so prevalent.
I just saw Eduardo Telles in Tokyo. Coolest guy. I told him how his turtle guard instructional changed my defensive game from blue belt on. 🙏🤙👏
O jogo do Telles é impressionante. 💪🇧🇷🥋
Unbelievable escapes against Keenan no less...!!!
Is telles the turtle guy?
Eduardo Telles is incredible. Very interesting style
turtle guard for ever .....
caraca o Eduardo Telles tava brincando com o Cornelius kkkkk
What is this bro
Turtle x Worm is beautiful to watch
Crazy turtle guard
Telles rolls like that because he’s used to big guys kicking his ass and this is how he’s learned to defend.
Dude that's me. I'm a small guy where can I learn this style?
And because he was partners with Terere, master guard passer.
how did he survive that bow and arrow-looking thing at 10 minutes?
By pulling your own lapel you can get some slack
Such a beautifull fight
E pode ir pro chão sem fazer pegada?
pode sim
Did anyone else bust out laughing watching this match?
What is his goal?
Nerales to submit Keenan off of his title guard but Keenan is too good for that but not good enough to get through telles’ turtle gaurd
Amazing. 🇧🇷💪🥋
Magical
Objetivo do Telles é nao ser dominado mesmo lutando contra um cara mais jovem e mais rapido, Keenam deve ter ficado frustado
O telles é muito flexível 😲
So does Telles ever aggressively attack ? How does he plan to win his matches ? He has an amazing ability to maintain guard and keep people from collecting points
He has a bunch of SUPER sneaky submission and sweeps from the turtle positions a lot of shoulder locks and knee bars
He’s 38 years old. Winning isn’t his goal. It’s not getting defeated.
@@beauchapman4155 that’s not something you go to black belt champion comps for. That’s like people who hold their breathe till the buzzer just to say they haven’t been choked. I feel like Telles is much more than that.
@@softballfj he’s 38 at this point. Already won a world championship and hadn’t won since 2007.
This was a tournament final so he beat a bunch of dudes to be here.. he actually reversed Keenan in this match. He just couldn’t pass worm guard
Generally the turtle attacks require a strong attack from your opponent if they just chill with their body weight back it’s really hard to reverse but it’s also impossible for them to attack you… generally near the end telles will suddenly surprise with wrestling or some unique attack
DAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMN
Palhaçada !!! Rodolfo Vieira não para não para .
Man, this is a WEIRD guard, but just so cool to see!
manow acho q o Eduardo leva á sério aquela história de fazer soltinho
kakakakakaka manow ele não faz pegada q estranho 😏
Damn that was awesome
In the past they fight to make the opponent tapout, in the present they fight to make points and see who has more flexbility in the ass hole ! Miss the old school !
Don´t hurry you will see my genaration :D
You miss Helio holding closed guard for 90 minutes and looking for collar chokes?
Bruno de Barros well do you @jitteryjoe
Bruno de Barros Eduardo Telles *is* old school, lol.
Dude Eduardo telles is old school.. dude was doing jiu jitsu since the international competitions began
American jiu-jitsu‽
Telles frustou o Cornélios Coroa casca grossa. Brasil!!!!!!
I don't understand why my fellow jiu jitsu players want to play from a negative position, it's common sense type stuff, Rodolfo wins easy with passing and smashing and he is rarely tired or having to come back in points because he bullied around having guys more dominant positions, cyborg abreu puzzles me too because his freestyle wrestling is above average but he always wants to play from bottom then scramble to come back at the end
+Rugged Dre Louris they go in with "gameplans" and they watch tape to get an advantage over opponents, which is why you may see some awkward techniques. Both fighters here have very unorthodox styles and they were each attempting to be creative and out-think the other.
I understand being creative but it's also culture, meaning I love alot of things bout brazil but the wrestling is not good over there, they had helio gracie bottom jiu jitsu influence too
There judo I think has to be in the top 5 of thee world as far as Olympic and world championships medals ranking, Japan 1, France 2, Russia/ Soviet Union 3, Brazil maybe 4....
But it's funny with the gracie family split in top vs bottom, rickson trained under rolls and he works both top and button but helio side works the bottom and carlos and carlson side works more of the top
I think its great. i wish it was encouraged more. Everytime ive tried to develop a game from turtle it actually has backlashed because every coach ive had would think that I blindly have no clue as to what im trying to accomplish and yell at me everytime I turtle. So therefore ive never been in an environment where I can actively try and pursue that kind of game.
Guarda tartaruga 🐢 é sinistra
The defense against the dark art😅
My mind is blown
Modified score
Telles A
Cornelius
Onpy a man like Terere could have caused a man to have a defense like this...
... Or maybe it was that woman yelling like nails on a chalkboard throughout the whole video...
wtf this fight??
Glad keenan won. At first i was astonished by telles’ positioning and retention, but eventually got dissapointed with his gameplan. Didn’t turn his scrambles into any offense and only blocked his opponent for the majority of the time.
He swept Keenan with his turtle he just couldn’t pass, Keenan deserved to win but telles gameplan worked until Keenan hit him with worm guard
I always get stuck in turtle when rolling . When u grow up I wanna be like him
As predictable as it gets.
Being a BJJ practitioner I have to admire their skill...but MAN WAS THAT BORING!!! They are killing the whole martial art aspect with this kind of "fighting". I understand how good they are but if I saw this 10 years ago I would NEVER start doing Jiu Jitsu....
I would say if anything it's the rules of the sport that are causing people to develop styles of jiu jitsu that work the point system to their advantage. Telles' style is very relaxed and his style helped him neutralize the more aggressive styles of jiu jitsu. He's been around competing at black belt for over 13 years and has placed at many big tournaments including Pan-Ams; and at 38 years-old he finally won the Worlds at No Gi in 2013. It's rare you see someone his age competing with the young guys.
What the fuck are you talking about, you know nothing...go back to Roger Gracie Academy
***** Have to say though that Turtle guard is anything but a point scoring system. Playing turtle guard you give up advantages like crazy, your sweeps are usually not counted as sweeps... if there is a guard that doesn't work the point system, that's got to be it.
Telles has fought MMA. This was not how he approached that competition. This is a sport, and his ideas are unique. He could use traditional techniques and beat 99% of blackbelts. But at this super high level, this relaxed style has allowed him to continue to enter the 18-29 category and stay relatively uninjured. If his opponent makes a mistake, he's quick to take advantage.
Telles tem uma luta muito feia
Haha, what's this guy's motive with this style? Even when he has an opportunity to reverse or attack he reverts back to his turtle. I think he wants to love your head with his butt
Turtle Guard fail.
Otavio Almeida
If you'd actually watch the fight you'd notice that he got choked off of a worm guard sweep, his turtle guard was 100% effective (at staving off passes) for the duration of the fight.
piece of shit jiu jitsu.
Telles and Keenan could kick 99% of guys' asses if they needed to, Telles has done mma. This was a test of weird styles, and they had beaten the rest of the bracket to get here.