Beware the Wolf

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  • @tacticaldorito3942
    @tacticaldorito3942 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love how the explanation is that the brakes melt, not that the drums expand. Expert engineer.

  • @johnderfler5183
    @johnderfler5183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I've driven down this incline. If it takes and hour to get to the bottom of it, you were in the right gear and you will still have your brakes.

  • @nealjames4780
    @nealjames4780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was always taught to respecct the mountains and to go down the hill in the same gear as you went up it.

  • @laorhino9702
    @laorhino9702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:30 2:15 that’s me (red volvo). Nice and slow down that mountain.

  • @garykendall1376
    @garykendall1376 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have been over Wolf Creek a few times in a truck, both with and without Jakes. Never a problem. Maybe because I used common sense and drove off the top in lower gears and kept the speed under control till I got to the bottom?

  • @danor6812
    @danor6812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I drive over the road. I'm not afraid to admit. In the 80's. This road scared the hell out me in the 80's. Only 2 lanes back then.

  • @SoapinTrucker
    @SoapinTrucker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THIS route, is the only one I ever intentionally and knowingly, avoided for 28 years of trucking!
    I've had to change my skivvies on a few others though, in the rookie years! LOL ;)

  • @DrJohn493
    @DrJohn493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember going over two-lane Wolf Creek Pass for the first time in 1968 when I was 15 years old. Approaching the switchback featured in this video, I vividly recall a sign warning of the hairpin curve ahead and how many lives that had been lost in that curve. The widening of 160 over the pass greatly improved it but drivers have to be careful not to let it give them a false sense of confidence.

    • @417plasma6
      @417plasma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I been over only twice out of 25 yrs of driving the speed you drive up the hill loaded is the speed you drive comin down...4 gear with the jakes and tap on the brakes...we lost a couple drivers cause they didn't listen to our warnings...

    • @mikedag1176
      @mikedag1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're right about that !! 1st time I went over that mountain was at night and I hadn't even realized I made the ascent I just picked up a load of carrots out of Alamosa Colorado what a surprise going down with icy roads and no Guard rails. this was like early 2001. I descended in 4th gear JAKE ENGAGED!!

    • @417plasma6
      @417plasma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikedag1176 load of potatoes was my second run , i was in 3rd gear both jakes on and i enjoyed the view..no hurry my life isn't worth the load and the company

    • @petesfarm7830
      @petesfarm7830 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No Jake, don't risk it, same as Cabbage

    • @DrJohn493
      @DrJohn493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@417plasma6 I go over the pass at least twice each summer I'm out in CO. Use a very similar technique in my SUV pulling a camper. I can always tell the really pro truckers on the downgrade by how slow they're going.

  • @oscargrouch7962
    @oscargrouch7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Truck brakes do not fail because brakes turn to liquid. Truck brakes fail because the friction between the brake linings and brake drums causes heat which in turn causes the brake drums to expand. When the brake drums overheat and expand too much the brake shoes can longer press the brake linings against the expanded brake drums with enough force to slow (brake fade) even if the driver has the pedal floored.
    Newer cars and pickup trucks have disk brakes at all 4 wheels instead of disk brakes at the front wheels and drum brakes at the rear wheels.
    Starting in 2007 or so some big truck manufacturers were starting to offer disk brakes as an option.

  • @normanappleton3627
    @normanappleton3627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    On even steeper descents in other countries, speed limits are set at lower than normal speeds and Trucks, Busses and other large vehicles are REQUIRED to use LOW GEAR. Both of these conditions are enforced both by speed cameras and regular police patrols.
    I have observed that many US drivers just ride their brakes as many pulled into the same stops as I was at, with their brakes smoking.
    The check point at the beginning of the Bitumen on Pike's Peak, where they measure the tire temperatures, were surprised at how cool my tires were until I explained that I ALWAYS us the gears, even in an automatic car, to slow the vehicle on a steep or long descent.

    • @mikedag1176
      @mikedag1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Descend in one gear lower than the one ascending. Safe rule of thumb.

  • @pinkfreud62
    @pinkfreud62 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Worse one was the foreigner who lost control & weaved, smoked for miles & was too confident and stupid to use the runaway ramps. He just kept passing opportunities, but instead, ran into traffic and killed 4 people. I'm surprised it was only 4 when you watch the crash footage. Better to use the ramps then take chances with people's lives!

  • @michaelh.4535
    @michaelh.4535 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always said trucking downhill, will you be able to stop in time for the rolled over truck blocking the lanes of travel that is around the next bend!!?

  • @bobclifton8021
    @bobclifton8021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I traveled it a few times back in the 50's. Interesting road but not the worst I've seen. The view from the Lookout was featured in the movie Across The Wide Missouri.

  • @mikedag1176
    @mikedag1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I picked up a load of carrots in Alamosa Colorado and ended up on highway 163 and Wolf Creek Pass. It was exhilarating and frightening. Llmmffaaoo

  • @nostromo4269
    @nostromo4269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I know everything I need to know about Wolf Creek pass from C.W. McCall

    • @melvinrexwinkle1510
      @melvinrexwinkle1510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That means you're gonna die, if you go west over it

    • @melvinrexwinkle1510
      @melvinrexwinkle1510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      25 mph is way too fast for 79000 gross unless you have a good jake. No jake? Better go off the top westbound, in 3 rd gear

    • @marlenalinne7958
      @marlenalinne7958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. He's hilarious.

    • @bigearl791
      @bigearl791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too lmao

    • @genehasenbuhler2594
      @genehasenbuhler2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That and Black Bear Road😆👍

  • @vernoncrown
    @vernoncrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been over Wolf Creek on my Harley and it's a beautiful ride, but I drove slow for the scenery and for safety. Yes, I got passed by people, but The Wolf can get dangerous very quickly. If you're a trucker and not in your bottom 5 gears, you're a fool! A Jake Brake helps a lot, but if you get going too fast the Jake won't help. The few times I've been over The Wolf, it was heavily patrolled by CO state patrol, for obvious reasons. Coming into Denver on E/B I-70 is another bad section of hi way. For reasons entirely unknown, some truckers don't believe the many warning signs posted about keeping speed down. I've seen a lot of rigs with smoking brakes coming off I-70. There have been some pretty serious accidents on I-70. They should require a Jake Brake on rigs in the Colorado mountains.

    • @nomaderic
      @nomaderic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I come down that i70 stretch every single morning and most truckers are good about it but there's always a few who come flying past me.

  • @mikeschmidt4800
    @mikeschmidt4800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This road almost killed me driving across country in the spring coming back to the south from San Diego after getting out of the Navy. I was in a 2wd truck with nothing in the bed. We made the climb thinking nothing of it until that spring blizzard hit. I couldn't touch the brakes or gas. I was only able to downshift. I swerved all over that mountain and finally made it. There were no rails on the side and I couldn't see except for a porthole in my windshield. Meanwhile my wife and kid are watching me swerve all down the mountain in a fwd Honda Civic that had no issues with the pass. When we got to the other side my 40k mile truck was saying, CLACK CLACK CLACK. . . Luckily we made it all the way back to the south and surprisingly ran for another year going clack clack clack until I traded it in.

  • @CEOkiller
    @CEOkiller ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me and Earl were hauling chickens on a flatbed out of Wiggins….

  • @thadnipper9411
    @thadnipper9411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First time I did it in a freezing fog in the middle of the night, first time on Cabbage at 2:00 am in a very dense fog...good memories.

  • @randylahey1232
    @randylahey1232 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This road is like phantom 309 type shit

  • @wildlyunrulyadventures3942
    @wildlyunrulyadventures3942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect truckers and the mountains!!

  • @susanalexander8947
    @susanalexander8947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WENT THRU THERE WHEN I WAS 8 YEARS OLD WITH MY PARENTS,,,,,1965,,,,,,IT WAS A NARROW 2 LANE ROAD,,,,,,AN 18 WHEELER WENT OVER THE SIDE WHERE THE SCENIC OVERLOOK IS,,,,ABOUT 30 MINUTES BEFORE WE CAME BY,,,20 TO 3O CARS WERE STOPED,,,,,SO WE STOPED ALSO AND LOOKED OVER THE EDGE,,,,THE TRUCK HAD HIT THE BOTTOM OF THE CANYON AND FOLDED UP LIKE AN ACORDIAN

  • @busby6662000
    @busby6662000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad used to haul mobile homes across Wolf Creek Pass back when it was a 2 lane road ,and he said it was all a planned trip over the pass the highway patrol would escort from front to back and their would be 15 or more mobile home in line to take them all across. I can't even imagine doing that I would dang sure need a new pair of underwear by the time we were done lol.

  • @jameslane2501
    @jameslane2501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first trip through here was before this tunnel was even started.

  • @swissarmytenor
    @swissarmytenor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hated Pike's Peak and Independence Pass, but Wolf's Creek was tame by comparison (for me, anyway). Main reason was that most of the pass has 3 lanes w/ the middle and outside lanes going the same direction, so you can stay in the middle lane, if needed. Heard a lot about the steep downhill grade, but keeping the car in a lower gear keeps things under control (and the brakes from burning out).

  • @breezethompson7818
    @breezethompson7818 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've been on the wolf countless times over 38 years never one issue..it's simple to manage you have to respect it with complete authority meaning right gear and jakes..no brakes used you have to be a truck driver and a hot shot super trucker the grave yards are full of super truckers so are the junkyards...if you don't know the pass then don't take it and do not guess...I'm not so much for automatic transmission on any pass much less the wolf stay away from the wolf if your driving a automatic rookies stay away

    • @davidharrell8890
      @davidharrell8890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Breeze Thompson I drove a chevrolet topkick with a 3116 cat w/exhaust brake& an automatic hauling a fully loaded 40 ft trailer down this pass - no problem! I had a selector , so I could choose the gear I wanted.

    • @CattleRustlerOCN
      @CattleRustlerOCN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Automatics and assisteds have gear hold mode and jakes as well.

    • @royspencer9344
      @royspencer9344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I went down both the wolf & cabbage w/out a Jake & in the snow. Just takes respect & common sense.

  • @snoman003
    @snoman003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I looked at Earl and his eyes were wide, his lips were curled, and his leg was fried" ...

    • @oscargrouch7962
      @oscargrouch7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wolf Creek Pass - C.W. McCall - 1975 th-cam.com/video/X6LzWZYWpOU/w-d-xo.html

    • @TouchingClothProd
      @TouchingClothProd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "The sign said clearance to the twelve foot line, but the chickens was stacked to thirteen nine!"

    • @TouchingClothProd
      @TouchingClothProd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arguably the greatest lyric ever written.

  • @butchs6099
    @butchs6099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's Earl?

  • @GoldenRamMtlmstr
    @GoldenRamMtlmstr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've driven it for 50 years. It's no big deal unless you forget to respect the mountain and go slow. I've driven semi trucks and passenger vehicles up there.

  • @christafoya4000
    @christafoya4000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been passed by semis with a highway patrol sitting on the side of the road and not stopping these trucks going faster than the speed limit.

  • @julieverma1865
    @julieverma1865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes it is

  • @snackler6102
    @snackler6102 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like a great place to drive standard

  • @justincase1919
    @justincase1919 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lower gear, engine brake, slow down to 20 miles/hr below recommended speed, let yourself speed up to recommended speed and slow down again.
    Intermittent braking keeps breaks from overheating.

  • @moose6144
    @moose6144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every driver that crashes on that stretch of road I just hope never drives in BC in Canada specially the number three because they’re not gone making it

    • @bpeterssen
      @bpeterssen ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! Guys getting in trouble on the Colorado hills will be in huge trouble in BC! Hywy 3 is no joke.
      The Duffey lake rd at 13% is a real doozy!!

  • @a.h.s5152
    @a.h.s5152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would be scared to drive on it then☠️☠️☠️☠️✨

  • @jorygautreaux8745
    @jorygautreaux8745 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can’t fix stupid. Stupid is forever

  • @teresadiannerobertsroberts4020
    @teresadiannerobertsroberts4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad I’ll never drive on that road in my car😖😖😖😒

  • @justingraham7387
    @justingraham7387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's usually a automatic transmission and a beginner driver ... You don't see old timers shooting off those cliffs ...The last one was a person from Florida..
    My prayers go out to the family..
    Better trainings and no Automatic transmissions should be aloud to be on wolf or monarch pass ..
    If you don't have the gears you will never have the brakes !!!

    • @mbmaccin555555
      @mbmaccin555555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've seen old timers get into accidents because complacency

    • @melvinrexwinkle1510
      @melvinrexwinkle1510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Exactly, never drove automatics except for a test drive, but have told they have a "hold" position, but people who have driven it, know that you don't get but one or maybe 2 chances to downshift even with a good jake. What people don't know is that it's. I'm estimating, 5 or 6 miles down to switchback, if you're a quarter mile down from top and stepping on the brake petal, YOU are in serious trouble

    • @305r562
      @305r562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Been driving for a few months and ignorantly went down this route with automatic, knocked it out without any problems

    • @oscargrouch7962
      @oscargrouch7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@305r562 Yep, be slow at the top and switch your automatic transmission to manual mode to hold whatever gear your truck was in and leave it there to the bottom and use your engine brake to control speed and rpm. You may have to tap your brake pedal occasionally to slow rpm.

  • @jasonbuck489
    @jasonbuck489 ปีที่แล้ว

    It ain't bad if the weather is good unlike Canbage Hill which is nasty all the time....

  • @dennisphillips3059
    @dennisphillips3059 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When came cabbage once and was scared shitlist and my brakes were smoking really good

  • @allenturner36
    @allenturner36 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is setup by wolves and condi kyme

  • @rajeoflyfe
    @rajeoflyfe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine having the title of director and knowing fuck all of what you're talking about.... "the brakes are melting and they'll lose traction"....
    Well I'll be go to hell.... all these years I've been lied to and it cost me thousands of dollars in tires when all I had to do to keep traction was replaced the brakes.... well NOW I'm wandering if a new door handle will keep me from having to buy fuel!

  • @hardasnails11b15
    @hardasnails11b15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Again, all about choices.

  • @johngilmore6272
    @johngilmore6272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First thing you need on this stretch of highway is a clean pair of underwear

  • @charlesbrown6635
    @charlesbrown6635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The pass dangerous??? Bull shit!!! If drivers dont adjust to conditions,then there will be a problem.Any road can be driven safetly.Its up to the driver ,, not the road conditions.Conditions will always be,but how a driver adapts, makes all the difference

  • @kevenskilatonyius2178
    @kevenskilatonyius2178 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GET RID OF LOOK OUT ! PUT LOOK OUT ON UP HILL SIDE . 4 WHEELERS GO 85 ON THIS ROAD . PUT GREASE ON STEERING WHEEL . SO ITS EASER TO REMOVE hands WHEN U GET TO BOTTOM . # 1 scariest road in USA !

  • @idahopotato5837
    @idahopotato5837 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slow the speed limit and ticket the drivers.

  • @nevilledarman8n21
    @nevilledarman8n21 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply to fast and inexperienced