@@t0nkatsuuu There isn't a question of quality in their latest albums Yeah,they might not suit the choice of way of certain fans but the quality is still top notch. "Body paint","Mirror ball","The sculptures of anything goes" If this isn't quality,then what is quality?
Last album sucked, the album before that sucked as well. I just can't mate, been listening to these lads since 2010. AM was the last good thing I've heard from them, and that's a shame actually. Thought they would evolve for the better. Like the Beatles on Abbey Road...
I disagree, some people might not like the direction their newer albums are going, but it’s not fair at all to say they are garbage now. Alex is 37 now, I personally think it would be weird and out of place if they still wrote about getting high and dancefloors 🤷♀️
Yes true. For the video that has a title "video essay" this video alone is sucks. No theory, no musical perspective, no evidence, just blaming here and there.
Don’t know why this was recommended to me but I wildly disagree. I enjoy all of their music, the early stuff will make me go wild on their concert, while their latest two albums are a great home listen, as well as good to take a breath in-between their faster stuff. And AM is arguably my favourite of their albums that resonates with me a lot, both lyrically and in terms of its mood. It’s an “AM” album - it’s about late night walks back home from the pub, phone calls and messages to random Ex-es and crushes at 3 in the night and thoughts about your feelings of love that tear you apart from the inside as you don’t know if they are reciprocal. There is no better album for a lonely stroll on a dark and moody night. It’s THE album, one that goes beyond just being great music a represents a certain feeling with pinpoint accuracy, and its observational lyrics can only be boring if what is being sung about is not relatable at all. The specific lyric that you mentioned from Do I Wanna Know describes a moment and a feeling I’ve been through so many times now I can’t even say how many, and no one has ever described it in a song lyric as good as Alex did. Having said all that - well, I agree it can easily just not be for you. Especially not for the hardcore early Arctic Monkeys fan. And that’s ok, but it is definitely not because it’s bad or boring.
I think the general video can be summed up by a quote of his. 27:38 “it sounds grand… genuinely beautiful…. But I don’t like it” I would understand why some people would prefer the original record, it’s a bloody great record, no bad songs. However, if Arctic Monkeys released the same album 6 times, there’d be even more videos saying how shit they are as they have no sense of musical nuance. Furthermore, there are a heap of comments detailing Turners supposed lack of lyrical ability, where, I believe, you are taking his lyrics at face value, which is a blaring mistake when analysing any form of media, especially lyrics which are glorified poem. Overall, the desire for rawness in a band, it has no real nuance, like what you want, but bands, especially AM, signed to a hands off indie label, will (if successful) make more money as they release new music, allowing them a bigger budget to produce the songs that they want to write and progress as they age. It would be so much sadder to see a 35 year old Alex write a song lusting over a girl in a nightclub, compared to his epic and grandiose tale of cheating in Body Paint.
That's not what he's saying, it's fine you like it but the thing is as the Arctic Monkeys "evolve" they have become less creative. The Car really isn't that experimental it's just different. Different for being differents sake. Other bands have come and changed up their sound completly and really truly thrown themselves in the deep end like Radiohead with "Kid A" but as I said "The Car" doesn't really do that. It's got no flavour or punch. And I dont mean that as in it's not rock no that's fine but compared to over baroque pop acts this isn't very good. I will say I think "There'd better be a mirrorball" is a fantastic song but that's the thing as one song on an album not the sound of an entire album.
@@muhammadalfryan2615 yeah, and The Beatles wouldn't have been the biggest band in the world if Abbey Road had been their first album either. Never understood arguments like this. Plus, "fame" and "popularity" has nothing to do with whether or not something is good; just means it's palatable for a simple mainstream audience.
you're showing exactly whats wrong with music fans. people change, grown, and evolve - especially when they actually care about what they create. Like with the Arctic Monkeys, they literally explain that in their music.
just say you just like garage rock and nothing else and get a break. the problem here isn't that arctic monkeys got worse with each album. the problem is that you like a single genre and you can't wrap your head around the fact that a band's sound can't stay the same for 16 damn years.
The Arctic Monkeys are very good. No band is gonna be completely perfect. Also they were young and now they are in their 30's they are still doing a lot with music and trying new things. LET THEM LIVE
I personally became a bigger fan after TBHC and am fully convinced that The Car is one of the most tastefully made albums of all time. So full of musical moments and memorable events.
I appreciated the detailed content of this video, but I think you gave little weight to the artistic evolution of the band... They have simply matured and refined (sometimes a bit forcedly) their sound. I mean... I bet if they had churned out albums similar to the first one we would have all been here complaining about it too... so... :)
@@Rodolka hey mate, yeah, I think so... and that's just my humble and personal opinion, but still, let me be even more precise: I bought tickets for their show in Rome (July 2023) so I'm kinda happy to known that the concert won't be hyper-energetic throughout the entire show... Let me put it this way... they balanced their live performances by writing chill songs... 🤷♂️
@@valdeicampi that sucks, its great when rock bands play one or two ballads because it creates a unique and beautiful moment. If half of the concert is chill music it is not unique at all.
Tranquility Base is brilliant in my point of view even (I love TLSP). The car concept is nice but I feel that it needs more electric guitar to be added into the mix to rock it out more (kinda like Pink Floyd or Eagles Hotel California). It kinda lacks the rock and roll of older albums, complexity of tbhc and energy of tlsp.
EXACTLY, when the album cover was released i first thought Oh is gonna sound nostalgic, psychedelic and like mature old depressed man, you know, i was expecting something like the ultracheese and she looks like fun in terms of sound
im happy the arctic monkeys switched their sound, i liked their old stuff and i like this more. know exactly what theyre going for and they hit the mark imo
Quality video. Although I disagree, The Car literally made my 2022 a good year, and Mr. Turner is an amazing lyricist and vocalist in my opinion; I can still really appreciate the effort you put into saying your opinion. I hope to see more from you!
My favorite thing about Arctic Monkeys it's that every single album sounds really different, if I get bored with WPSIA I can switch to Hambug, and if I get bored with that album I can listen to The Car, they're not perfect but I really love that
One of the main reasons I love Arctic Monkeys is how they evolved their sound with every album. Sure Whatever People Say I Am is fantastic but what good is a band if they don't take any risks with music? Just because their sound changes or isn't what it was in the beginning, doesn't make it bad. They're one of the few artists that constantly evolve and I'm here for it. You have to respect them for doing what they do.
How can you expect them to not evolve? People change, minds change, inspiration changes, song-writing processes change. I do understand the longing for their old vibrant sound, but being slow-paced doesn't equal being "garbage". There's something about Alex; you may not understand his songs at first, but they grow on you, the more you listen to it, the more you hear. Heck, I love that. I feel their recent albums are more of an acquired taste, rather than an instant hit. (Except, of course, masterpieces like There'd better be a mirrorball, that's just art). Also, sorry about my english, not my first language, I still hope I made myself clear :)
You like the old stuff, but it's clear the band isn't trying to sound like they were, when they were younger. Their new stuff (Tranquility Base) is amazing, especially the lyrical work. Don't think it's fair at all to say the band is garbage lol.
But...mmh. I think you didn't understand his point, of course he doesn't like the new stuff, he's explaining why, and it's not bc of nostalgia or he adores rock. Ok the band isn't trying to sound like they were, that doesn't mean they are good now:/, he doesn't hate the new direction, maybe he simply listened other albums with the same sound that have done a better work?
@@franconavarro2256 Go to the 29 minute mark where he starts bashing on Alex Turner and comparing him to his older self and tell me he's not just being nostalgic... Obviously the band is not perfect but they continue to deliver some of the best songwriting of any band (at least) I follow
Did he really just sit there for 32 minutes and complain about the Arctic Monkeys growing up? You sound absolutely goofy, they deliver every single time.
i dont agree. i think time has passed and the band has grown. 30 year old alex turner isnt 17 year old alex turner and that's expected. clearly the kind of music they make now is not to your liking, but that doesnt make music bad.
I see arctic monkeys discography as a life journey of a young man. Started as a wild young guy with full of energy and slowly becoming more mature. But unfortunately the older they get, the more boring their songs get. I mean i still like the new stuff but i definitely understand why some fans says that it's boring. It's not bad by any mean but it's becoming more repetitive. I hope their next record will finnaly got the perfect balance of the new sound and the old energy they used to have.
I love AM with all my heart and I also love their new stuff but yes, I agree with you, they should have more balance with their sound, I mean just imagine how cool it would be if they add orchestra, jazz, cinematic and psychedelic sounds, but also desert rock like their Humbug era… I mean it would be amazing. I really hope they add more frenetic sounds to their next album
I have very different but similar opinions on this lovely band. I do really like WPSIATWIN and favorite worst nightmare (Though I love the lyrics and songs like The Only Ones Who Know and Do Me A Favor and I overall listen to FWN more) I LOVE Humbug I love the lyrics and the storytelling to me is really interesting (except the go cart and it’s one line in a whole album) I love the heaviness of it and I really like the way Alexs sings. I think AM is fine (I LOVE No 1 party anthem and snap out of it and Arabella are pretty good tho.) I LOVE tranquility It’s so interesting and gets better with every listen. (Maybe I can agree that Alex’s voice is not the best but to me it fits with the story of a lonely pianist in space) And The Car to me is tranquility but without the interesting story or sound. They sound good a there are some interesting like big ideas, sculptures and body paint but other than that I’m indifferent to the rest. I did not mean to write this much but what I wanted to say is that this is such a great video production wise that even when I really didn’t agree it was still a fun time. I can’t believe this doesn’t have more views. A really great video even though I disagree 🫶
I never listened to Arctic Monkeys outside of hearing "Do I Wanna Know" in passing. One day Spotify played a track from TBHC and I was hooked and bought the CD (considering buying the LP). I loved The Car too. I decided to listen to their other stuff and it didn't grab me at first, but I dug it. I kept listening and listening to their older work and eventually it really grew on me and I'll likely buy one of their early albums. I love that this band can really throw down on guitars, bass, and drums but can totally switch to piano, synth, strings, etc. Main takeaway, they clearly did SOMETHING right to get a new fan.
So, basically he likes how Arctic Monkeys sounded on their debut album and calls them garbage now because he doesn't enjoy what they're making nowadays, that sums it up pretty well
@@JohnIGuess which would be ok if it was true, but it isn't. the Arctic Monkeys have changed and if he doesn't like it that's fine, but if you watched the video you know how many times he said how "oh my god this is so bad" when in reality it isn't. It's even in the title how he thinks they're garbage now
AM has made them successful enough already. They don't need to make radio easy songs anymore. The Arctic Monkeys is now the band's passion project. A creative outlet for Alex and the Band. TLSP is also the same thing.
1. You did Favourite Worst Nightmare so dirty, there’s literally not 1 bad track on that album (including The Bad Thing) and Alex sounds great (I do agree I would like some raw vocals, but the effects used on his voice in this album mesh really well with the guitar effects) 2. Humbug has some of Alex greatest lyrics that you conveniently downplayed! In Dance Little Liar, Secret Door, Cornerstone you can really see how imaginative Alex Turner’s mind is (not to mention arctic monkeys best song ever is on Humbug, Crying Lightning) 3. AM is a poppy version of Arctic Monkeys that we all needed. How can you deny the catchiness of this album which made it as successful as it is? 4. I saw them live a few months ago, I think they recognise their 2 latest albums are missing the energy needed for a live show, they only performed 1 track from TBHC and 3 from The Car. You might think they’re boring now but believe me when I say it took 5 days after the show for my adrenaline to begin simmering down. The energy live is indescribable. (Fun fact: the best part of the show is their performance of Body Paint from The Car)
this guy does not understand what evolve means. its like judging the beatles that all their albums should have sounded like the first album and said “revolver and rubber soul is the wordt album ever made by the beatles”
I used to think the album after AM is just doesn't worth listening to, but after listening to There'd better be a mirrorball and body paint I'm amazed by Arctic monkeys talent for making such beautiful album yet so different from the previous one. The Car is my favourite album right and from the Tranquility base hotel + casino I'm still listening to it although Four out of Five is just straight up banger
The irony is that if he stuck with the sound of the first record, he would be selling out. Instead, he's following his growing influences. Is it less exciting on AM and The Car at times? Yea. But his ability to weave through these subtle and broad genre sweeps are pretty impressive. His L Cohen influence has been leading the way lately. We'll see what comes next. Hope you find something else to enjoy
I think it’s ironic that your main complaint for AM is that every songs is alike, but also you’d want for them to have stayed in their original 1st album sound, ultimately meaning that every album would have been the same. Also, I think AM definitely has “catchy hooks” most than other albums even. You say that is just commercial music but I think is was just another step of their evolution. Then you state that you were glad they tried something new for TBHC even though they have done that with basically every album, kinda contradictory. So I thought you were going to give actually compelling arguments but instead this basically is “I don’t like it”. PD Also “I see Do the Bad Thing as the beginning of the end for this band” brother, we’re barely on the 2nd album.
i get what you’re saying how they have changed from their rock and roll roots but i feel like every change that they incorporated into their sound worked. alex turner couldn’t keep going with the themes of whatever people say i am because he was growing as a person and not just a musician. he couldn’t keep writing about nightlife past mid 20’s maybe it just gets boring and repetitive which is why i’ve grown out of that album. it’s still really good and i love tracks like a certain romance and vampires but it gets repetitive. moving to fwn and then humbug was a really good transition, favorite worst nightmare was darker than whatever people say then humbug brought it more down and into a experimental phase that queens of the stone age inspired. suck it and see is my favorite because the change they brought didn’t really work it seemed too americanized to me and they had really lost the rock and roll sound while still being rock music it just didn’t work. AM id also one of my least favorites as its popularity has driven me away and the more anthemized sound i never liked. arabella i love probably coming from my love of war pigs by black sabbath since the drums are essentially the same. they had lost so much of their original sound though with that album that tranquility base was a phenomenal album to me it changed their sound completely but also continued off of alex turners side piece the last shadow puppets. the bowie operatic sound i really enjoyed and was a 180 sonically to their music. the lyricism i absolutely loved the psychedelic aspect to it was really well done in my opinion. the car, while i love some songs on there, sculptures, body paint, mirrorball, just seems like a toned down, less experimental form of tranquility base. i know this is a lot but i love this band so much and i really disagree with your point of them “falling off” or losing their greatness
I on the other hand have a completely different(and unpopular) opinion about their albums, I don't really like their early work that much except for a couple songs on each album,but after am i just instantly loved everything they did, specially tbhc,their instrumental work and alex's voice evolved a lot here,+the piano addition just gave them a fresh air on every song,in my thoughts tbhc is the album of the decade,but very underappreciated because of the sudden change from high tempo heavy guitars to slow and more diverse songs,where all the instruments blend making a great sound,i think this change could be less "forced" with louder guitars on songs like four out of five, american sports, star treatment and batphone,this would make them get less hate from the early fans while maintaining the originality of the album,the same could be done on the car,i was expecting actually a blend between their early work and the new one,but didn't happen,still loved body paint,hello you,big ideas and i ain't quite where i think i am
I completely disagree. I think Arctic Monkeys are on a creative high. If you look at classic artists like Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Kinks, Roxy Music, Bowie, etc. They all had different periods with peaks and valleys, most of them achieving their greatest work later in their career. AM ushered in a new era for this band, and has shown to be their biggest success to this date. Tranquility base is a spacey, atmospheric, conceptual piece that showed brave experimentation. The car continued this move into a more orchestral direction that is truly beautiful and when you consider where they came from, super daring and ballsy. Artists evolve and mature. These guys are not 16 year old punks anymore. These guys are approaching middle age and have different tastes, goals, values, and priorities in their art and personal lives. Being that Turner is their main song writer, he has clearly been on a sweeping personal journey the past 10 years or so. I love the work they are putting out now.
The way I see it is that Arctic Monkeys evolve so much between albums that you can’t compare them to one another. Each one has its unique characteristics we can all talk about and enjoy, why we gotta fight we all like the same band😂
I agree. I love AM bc it introduced me to the Arctic Monkeys and I still love most songs on that album. Their older (and newer) stuff just doesn't feel as accessible to me.
Bro really said he can't move on, so labelled a band garbage for being able to do so themselves. They're fucking fantastic now. Always have been. Always will be. They didn't make what you wanted, grow up lol
Personally I think that Arctic Monkeys old discography are full of absolute bangers, but listening to their new stuff there is such a clear difference in what type of music they put out. And to be completely honest I don’t really like their newest album it just doesn’t hit the same as their past albums like favourite worst nightmare
I admit I didn't like the car as much as their previous albums, but their music is still pretty good. They just evolved as they grew older and I love them for that
While I can respect it's your opinion, I don't agree with anything you said in this entire video. Firstly, Alex has objectively improved as a singer since the first two albums. It stylistically might not be your cup of tea, but it is objectively better. Secondly, you kept hammering home your belief that they left the Rock genre starting with Humbug, this isn't true either Humbug, Suck it and See, and AM are all Rock just not garage rock like the first couple. Thirdly, AM has the same themes throughout it as the first album, just instead of it being from the perspective and experiences of a 19 year old kid it's from the perspective and experiences of a man in his mid 20s. I could keep going, but I don't think one single TH-cam comment is the proper place to lay out an entire rebuttal, lol
Ahhh yes, another person that hears a sound that isn’t their taste and just assumes ‘yes it’s trash’ without any regard for production quality or songwriting.
So in summary, you are angry that a 30 something year old man living in the US doesn't write songs about teenage experiences clubbing in Sheffield anymore. Got it. Don't get me wrong, WPSIATWIN is my favourite record of all time, but the new music isn't garbage because it's a genre you don't like. I don't go around shooting videos about how heavy metal bands are bad. You are free to not like it the new direction, but the solution is to go listen to their first albums, not ramble into a microphone lmao. I feel like your criticisms of Humbug are really odd, like "Would you like me to build you a go-kart?" is not weird at all when you take in the whole verse instead of just that one line to find stuff to be angry about. The same thing with AM, calling it lacking in interesting riffs when DIWK and R U Mine? are some of the catchiest guitar parts they have ever written is insane to me. If you think those riffs are worse than something like Fake Tales of San Francisco, I genuinely don't understand how you come to that conclusion other than maybe nostalgia. Mocking No 1. Party Anthem for its ironic title while praising Riot Van also makes no sense, since it does the exact same thing (I do agree Riot Van is much better, but this particular criticism just makes no sense. It doesn't apply only it to songs you don't enjoy). TBHC gets praise for being a risk but The Car doesn't because... you like it less I suppose? I also don't think you realise just how different the 2 albums really are, the latter is MUCH more mellow and string-driven as opposed to the piano driven TBHC. You praise difference at one point, but later say "they're not a rock band anymore" as a critique, which it just isn't. Is it true? Maybe, probably. Is it a slight on them? Not at all really. Your critique of Alex Turner is also plain weird, going of about the Mastercard speech as if he wasn't taking the piss (just look at the other band members) makes me wonder how you even managed to realise that TBHC is satirical at all. The whole video is about "it's garbage because it's not what I wanted", which, while not an uncommon opinion, is just not a legitimate criticism, as I've already said above. I would have loved a video like this from a musician who actually went through and tried to improve it to his own liking, saying why he is making each decision, what doesn't work for him and why. THAT would've been fantastic. I would've watched 2 hours of that. But this video? At 1.5 speed it still could've been a tweet. 2/10 purely for the praise you gave the first record and because I agree the new singing style doesn't fit the old songs, though my thoughts certainly aren't as extreme as yours.
It's each to their own I suppose. Tranquility base is their best album imo. The car is fantastic too. I understand when you're a fan of the style of their early stuff, that you might not necessarily like the new stuff. However, the new stuff is artistically far superior which isnt subjective. It's just a wildly different style of music.
This was a satisfying watch. Felt like I was crazy cause I was the only one who found Alex’s new fake deep voice and over the top cool guy persona absolutely unbearable. Agree almost completely on everything you said, except about AM… Whatever people say is a masterpiece
I don't get why ppl say they fell off or aren't doing good anymore, they are doing good, but people are just mad that their style in music has changed, but they are getting old they aren't gonna be doing the same music they did in their 20s, bands evolve, plus they are doing great
If people are pissing their pants over him having an opinion, Then why does everyone and I mean *EVERYONE* have at least a handful of gripes about The Car or AM, But albums like Whatever People and Favorite Worst Nightmare are held up as classics? Rhetorical question: You know damn well deep inside he’s right and you’re letting fanboy logic and sensitivity clog your googles, The Band hasn’t been good since AM and there debut is still their best album And before you cry “ThATs an OpiNIon”, You know what else is an opinion?; Thinking Pablo Honey is Radiohead’s best album and Blur is trite garbage
It’s not like their first two albums are perfect. It’s disingenuous to say that people have gripes about their last two albums (which is true) but also not about their first two???
And no I don’t “know” the band hasn’t been good since AM and WPSIATWIN was their best because i liked plenty of stuff after AM and WPSIATWIN isn’t my favourite one of their albums. That is an opinion as valid as yours.
They didn’t release their music for free they gave away free demos. Some kid from Sheffield uploaded them to Limewire with the Album name Beneath The Boardwalk.
I know that it's click bait but still considering that you actually like some of their music I think it's too much called called them "garbage" or "biggest fall". I think you've missed the fact to understand Arctic Monkeys you need to included TLSP, since then you can see how the ship has shifted and what was the direction that Alex was going. Idk if it's because the pandemic or the influence of French music or Alex search of perfection but most of the songs of the Car feel overthought; Body Paint for example, in the begining it's trying to be this heart breaking song with some philosophy stuff but then when it truly breaks and leaves all those things it's the perfection and its peak (and sadly the peak of the album too). I went to AM concert this year and Body Paint and Mirrorball sounded amazing, even better than the album version because it was just them; they didn't need that search of perfection, they were doing the things they know. I think the reason why they're still together is just friendship, and the rest of the band get a long so well with Alex because they're also comfortable or too lazy to argue wtih the direction he wants to take. One thing it's for sure that they won't be back with sound of the first album (they even don't play more than 1-2 songs in the gigs) but I really hope that they just follow their nuts in the next album. I'm sorry if this was too much XD
Listen, im a huge arctic monkeys fan and i respect this video and its very valid. I love how honest you are with everything you say, but i think you just did too much of critical thinking on albums that point was to be chaotic and fun like fwn. About am yeah its pretty mid, but no where near as bad as you made it, there is a reason why it is one of the most fameous albums in the world. For the other albums you were right for the most part but the car isnt as bad as you made it seem as well, sculpture of anything goes is amazing so is bodypaint mirrorball and inwitia. And about the live performances I AGREE i love alex and everything he has done but hes just trying too hard sometimes so i respect you for pointing that out. Overall bro pretty good video but arctic monkeys will forever be the greatest band ever for me.
they’re just older now.. alex isn’t gonna have the same energy and same voice as he did years ago.. i thought this was a pretty obvious thing. another thing to note, arctic monkeys tend to take on a different “theme” with every album dropped so yeahh ofc it’s going to change up plenty of times. but that’s why so many fans come back to them, it’s because they have something for everyone. i feel like a lot of fans of the am album, for instance, tend to be adolescents (younger people who enjoy indie/pop/ alternative) because it’s a very sexy smooth album and it is geared to a mainstream audience. nothing is wrong with that, it’s just what they were obviously going for. then they changed it up with these last two, i think now they are doing what they like. no one has to like it, but the ones who do, do. that’s it. it’s simple. they aren’t garbage, you just simply don’t like it and that’s okay. i don’t like a lot of music artists lol wouldn’t necessarily call them garbage.. although i guess it’s whatever. at the end of the day people are gonna do and say whatever they like.
Ok it bugs me when people come at Alex’s vocals. I’m sorry he doesn’t sing like ed sheeren or Justin Bieber but that’s what makes him unique. Alex’s voice is absolutely beautiful and it makes their tracks sooooo good. Of course the other band mates are absolutely amazing, all of them are amazing but Alex’s voice really stands out to me and it always has. He doesn’t use voice effects especially on FWN, it is super raw but for some reason you say that he sounds drunk and he’s just “rambling” . Also his voice isn’t “out of place” it’s frickin indie rock mate. His voice isn’t supposed blend in with the music in the back it’s supposed to stand out but you’re upset because it doesn’t blend in?? But then In Sias and AM you’re calling it bland because his voice is blending in??? Bro make up your mind. Stop coming at them Because they changed… leave ‘em alone
I always find that AM are at their best when they’re experimenting. hence why Humbug and Tranquility are my favourite albums and AM is my least favourite by far. the debut and FWN I listen to with a lot of nostalgia, but I’m much less into the music than I was 10 years ago. Suck It and See leans heavily on Alex’s songwriting, and I think it showcases some of his best ever. probably third in my ranking (despite Brick by Brick). already mentioned AM, but I don’t dislike it at all. I think it’s boring, bland and not at all interesting in any way, but it’s the album that got me heavily into music as a 10 year old and I have a lot of nostalgia for it. The Car is something else entirely. it doesn’t sound like TBHC to me at all. I really love most of the songs on there but can’t get into two or three
I've heard all these takes before. You don't like Alex's singing post FWN. You think his lyrics got worse, which I'd disagree with. Sure they are not as viciously rythimically delivered as on their debut but, submarine, sias, and yes AM (even if it's really poppy- I agree it's not very good imo) R u mine (is the same as do I wanna know and boring? LOL crazy), Do I wanna know (overrated i agree), love is a laserquest, stuck on a puzzle, its hard to get around the wind, shes thunderstorms. There is some really great song writing in there, and I like Alex's change in vocal style. I agree their debut is by far there best but all of their albums have good song's and the only album I personally dislike is am. Also all these critiques go right out the door for tbhc and the car. The commercial appeal and simplicty that the band adapted for am and sias, which I feel they did rather tastefully is replaced by super complex songwriting. TBHC has some of alex's best songwriting, and I find it to be rather objective. And as soon as he does some experimental songwriting anf structure its "awkward and clumsy and he cant sing right" TBHC Is so imaginative and specific, the album builds a world that the listener builds in their head. I understand people not liking it but to argue it doesnt have merit, especially on alex's part is fucking insane. the car is better than AM ur insane lmao. calling the band garbage is just crazy to me. jokes on you for making a 30 minute video just to call a band garbage.
You have to have been there in 2005 to know how AM came out of nowhere and how influential and face melting that album was, how they took the world by storm and became huge rock stars in a matter of seconds, it just blew us all off
So basically this guy really likes indie rock, and he's mad the band evolved past the 2000's. He just wants more of the first album, anything else he thinks is garbage
I first watched this video after listening to only two albums of Arctic Monkeys (FWN and TBHC) and, even though i didnt completely agree on your comment, I decided to listen to their other albums and... I agree with you a lot more now. Personally, I think that TBHC is not that bad of an album (but nowhere near a masterpiece as some said) and is better than Suck it and See and AM. I feel like their first two albums were and still are the perfect example of how to do something simple and easily lovable without being commercial music like AM is (Suck it and See also tried to be but failed miserably). WPSIATWIN is an amazing debut and FWN is, even if not perfect, a good change to complete the style started by the debut. Humbug is okay? Suck it and See and AM are just.. sad. While AM is kinda ok commercial type of songs, Suck it and See is bad commercial music. TBHC was to me their best album since FWN, i guess i like their slower but not dead style of music. The Car loses the saver of TBHC (instrumentals) and replaces it with a singer that tries to be a bad impression of David Bowie. As of right now, even if they wanted, i don't think there is a way to them to be back in the Rockier and faster sound. It would be a bigger shock to the fanbase than the AM to TBHC transition. To me, the Arctic Monkeys managed to make an amazing fast and energetic sound to a sad and sleepy version of david bowie.
Tbh im not watching a 32 minutes of yapping session. They've said they are ofc not gonna stay as they were almost 20 yrs ago, their music is ofc not gonna remain the same, the new album imo was a fucking masterpiece
I think I went through the 5 stages of grief when I first listened to the car. (Especially listening to their current 505) But at the end of the day it’s what they’re happy with. I also prefer listening to the TBHC and the car in the live recordings, I’d say it’s better than the album versions.
Personally I love the Arctic Monkeys. I believe they are one of the best bands. For them to change their sound is a good thing as it doesn't become boring and maybe someday they will revisit the rock'n roll side they once gained. This in particular shows not only Alex Turner is possibly one of the best songwriters but how this band is unique and experiments different sounds.
30:45 boy what. the 1975 are a different genre that performs obiously differemt. alex turner himself said that he never intened to be the frontman and he wanted to convince the rest of the band to be an instrumental band becuas HE DIDNT WANT TO SING. you cant just say you dislike alex turner and let that be the reason to dislike his music becuase of his stage presence or whatever. shut up no one wanted to hear this. the 1975s debut wand follow up was shit too.
Bro finally an Arctic Monkey opinion I can agree with. I really can’t stand anything after FWN and never seen my reasons really summed up better than in this video. Thanks
I love their new album and i completely disagree with this guy. It’s fine if their newer sound isn’t your taste but that doesn’t mean they’ve gotten worse and that doesn’t mean they’re garbage. Stop whining because a band doesn’t stay exactly the same mate.
It is fair for people are dissapointed with The Car since most fans were not ready for Alex and the monkeys to stay on that chill wavelength of sound. However, the Car have some aspect of brilliance to it, IMO its more of an experience. You say in the The Car most of the songs sounds the same but Sculptures of Anything Goes is way different to Jet Skis on The Moat. Yes, none of the songs rock like previous albums but I think there is some beauty in that. Much like Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino, The Car is meant to enjoyed kinda like a home listen instead that in a mosh pit. I think that Alex understands that he alienating a lot of fans with the new sound but it looks he doesn't give AF anymore and honestly gotta give it some respect for it. The Car is not their best work but its just another step into the evolution of this incredible band that always keeps me on the tip of my toes. and for those that liked Tranquility Base and The Car, you should listen to Everything I've Come To Expect from the Last Shadow Puppets. Still, cool video dude! love the editing and the analysis.
I'm a big fan of the first album. Didn't care for the rest personally that followed but I wouldn't say they were bad, I just didn't take to them. Most of the bands I listen to change, some I continue to take to while others not so (enjoyed the first 2 Kings of Leon albums but from the 3rd one onward, not at all). Absolutely love The Car. It's a masterpiece, like the first one. It is music of course, so enjoyment can be especially subjective. The Arctic Monkeys are like Radiohead to me. Some of their stuff ranks as the best music I've ever enjoyed and other songs I get absolutely nothing from.
I watched the whole video, agree & disagree with a lot of points. I saw Arctic Monkeys before they released their debut album. At 1st I didn't believe the hype then I heard From The Ritz To The Rubble & began to understand the importance of them. Their debut is my favourite, then FWN, AM, TBHC, Suck it, then Humbug & The Car on the same level in last place. I still enjoy watching this band perform live & Alex Turner when he walks onstage, he has the crowd in the palm of his hand. He's a much better frontman than other big bands like Brandon from The Killers, Caleb in Kings of Leon. Arctic Monkeys were amazing in 2006 & still great now with a wonderful array of classic singalong anthems, amazing guitar solos & will be headlining festivals for years to come.
i just don’t understand why you even bothered yourself to make a video about something you dislike so much. you totally have the right to have your own opinion but for me the band is great and you didn’t have to talk absolute shit about alex turner himself (besides vocals) and the albums! remember that they have a ton of fans til this day for a reason
Feel the same way the author does, maybe AM deserves bit less thrashing cause of it's poppyness, but rest of the video is pretty much spot on. And yes the singer seams like a pretentious person... fame has not made him a better artist.
nope... i mean even if their music doesnt sound like their 2000-2010s albums nowadays , theyre still growing . as a fellow indie & AM enjoyer i LOVED tranquility base hotel & casino once it came out in 2018 and even if arctic monkeys kept changing their sound i didnt feel this 'evolution' made them worse . i get the car wasn't very welcome by some fans though , i prefer tranquility base than the recent album . all i can say is that at least the band is willing to take new paths and mature after all these years whether u like it or not , n i still think theyre rlly talented and good at what they do :)
I want to say that there's quite a lot he seems to have gotten wrong in this video.... no matter what your opinion is totally valid! I also used to only like a song if it was upbeat and made me move, but elements that you said you didn't like weren't very accurate. Despite picking up on O'Malley's great basslines you hardly touched on Matt's drumming and he's really one of my heroes. Pretty visitors is often noted as some of his best work and I actually really think it works making such a feature of his drumming on songs like this and crying lightning- the hi-hats have a sizzle that feels like the aftermath of lightning strikes... and I think you somewhat missed the point of 'I wanna be yours' (I know it is a pretty sappy love song but) I don't think Alex actually wrote the lyrics, it's based on a John Cooper Clark poem... and despite what you might think having the slower heavy and lumbering guitar sounds in humbug and AM feels like a really powerful change to their sound, something about the depth and "swampy" feel of it is just intoxicating. I feel like that comes from allowing each note to really resonate and perhaps hold some meaning, also some of the guitar solos that come out of that to contrast it! it just seems to add a whole new level to the songs, I actually really like that each instrument is giving the others space, one might be occupying higher subdivisions while another provides an intriguing counter-melody/riff. something about it just seems to fit. Although facing some mild disappointment when I first heard TBHC it has really grown on me, and I really like lots of the songs, so I'm quite glad you seem to like that one. You are spot on that it's more about the interesting production in the latter two albums, I think it's hugely enriched by inspirations like David Bowie and John Lennon that feel quite prominent. I think Alex sometimes takes this a touch too far and tries to drag a lot with the lyrics, which means that often in more recent live shows people are losing interest as they can't sing along as much as with previous more rhythmic vocals. one thing I'd like to point out is how stubborn you are about the car's cover? (Matt took that picture himself, and it's a really interesting picture with angles and lines and a single focus- the car. I'm glad you like Bodypaint, I agree its one of the best songs on the album, but your last point about 505 doesn't hold up for me, if He went from singing Star treatment straight into that one and was expected to change his voice just because when he was a squeaky teen he sounded that way people would probably think he's a really weird guy.... overall, I agree with some of the more solid arguments against this being a solid band, but there's a lot more to it than just Alex.
this band is getting sold out for almost every concert in 3 different continents for 2023 and you could hardly get 5 people to your birthday. I really dont think they are garbage now. Just shut up and stop hating the world.
@@Dankyjabo Imagine dragons is not my type of music but that doesn't mean I have to call them dogshit. That's how full of crap people like you really are. Just criticizin everything because god only nows what happen in yall lifes. Imagine dragons and ajr will be forever more successful and happier than you.
@@Dankyjabo Their best album? Probably not, their worst? Not when suck it and see exists. Alex's voice might not be your cup of tea these days but calling it terrible is just objectively wrong, I enjoy his voice on this album and love all the songs on it other than "The Car". Your hate towards Arctic Monkeys is purely fueled by your dislike towards Alex which is crazy because he's the genius behind the band which is also proved by his side projects.
@@matthewyevtushenko5282 I think Turner is a brilliant songwriter and a very talented musician. He just doesn't do a good job showing off his talents imo, kind of like Rivers Cuomo but more boring
@Dankyjabo, great video, my compliments! I miss the (your) eye for development, look at the journey AM have made over the years, I think it is beauitiful as they develop and change like people do. Dont expect adolecent albums from AM as they left that phase and...... dont be surprised if they rock the shit out on a future album.
this guy who made this video is an idiot. a sad loser!
real
The pin of shame. Even though I fully agree with what you're saying
@@Marcelo-hf5xl whats the pin of shame?
Kinda sad commenting a loser on the internet
True
You can't expect a band to remain same for 17 years.
The boys have grown up,you should too
best comment.
Exactly
Nobody is expecting anyone to be the same after decades. What he is pointing out is the quality, how hard is that to understand?
@@t0nkatsuuu
There isn't a question of quality in their latest albums
Yeah,they might not suit the choice of way of certain fans but the quality is still top notch.
"Body paint","Mirror ball","The sculptures of anything goes"
If this isn't quality,then what is quality?
Last album sucked, the album before that sucked as well. I just can't mate, been listening to these lads since 2010. AM was the last good thing I've heard from them, and that's a shame actually.
Thought they would evolve for the better. Like the Beatles on Abbey Road...
I disagree, some people might not like the direction their newer albums are going, but it’s not fair at all to say they are garbage now. Alex is 37 now, I personally think it would be weird and out of place if they still wrote about getting high and dancefloors 🤷♀️
true....in fact i like that the band has range
Yes true. For the video that has a title "video essay" this video alone is sucks. No theory, no musical perspective, no evidence, just blaming here and there.
Body Paint and Mirrorball tells me that they are still capable of doing heaven's music.
But then there's the rest of the tracks that are mid, except Sculptures of anything goes, that's a masterpiece
Only 3 out of 10 songs are good...
@@Rodolka agree, i can't seem to like the other songs than those two.
Jet skis ⛷️ on the moat 🌊 🔥 🔥 🔥 🎉🎉😃
@@Rodolka isnt that a mteer of perception tho? i like all of them :")
Don’t know why this was recommended to me but I wildly disagree. I enjoy all of their music, the early stuff will make me go wild on their concert, while their latest two albums are a great home listen, as well as good to take a breath in-between their faster stuff. And AM is arguably my favourite of their albums that resonates with me a lot, both lyrically and in terms of its mood. It’s an “AM” album - it’s about late night walks back home from the pub, phone calls and messages to random Ex-es and crushes at 3 in the night and thoughts about your feelings of love that tear you apart from the inside as you don’t know if they are reciprocal. There is no better album for a lonely stroll on a dark and moody night. It’s THE album, one that goes beyond just being great music a represents a certain feeling with pinpoint accuracy, and its observational lyrics can only be boring if what is being sung about is not relatable at all. The specific lyric that you mentioned from Do I Wanna Know describes a moment and a feeling I’ve been through so many times now I can’t even say how many, and no one has ever described it in a song lyric as good as Alex did.
Having said all that - well, I agree it can easily just not be for you. Especially not for the hardcore early Arctic Monkeys fan. And that’s ok, but it is definitely not because it’s bad or boring.
I really appreciate how you worded this, cheers for the comment my friend
Nah man, the last two albums were crap
@@altaafkader9675 elaborate
@@richardburakov1998 they were better when they had a bit more rock n roll in them
@@altaafkader9675 your personal opinion. change is something good.
I think the general video can be summed up by a quote of his. 27:38 “it sounds grand… genuinely beautiful…. But I don’t like it”
I would understand why some people would prefer the original record, it’s a bloody great record, no bad songs. However, if Arctic Monkeys released the same album 6 times, there’d be even more videos saying how shit they are as they have no sense of musical nuance. Furthermore, there are a heap of comments detailing Turners supposed lack of lyrical ability, where, I believe, you are taking his lyrics at face value, which is a blaring mistake when analysing any form of media, especially lyrics which are glorified poem. Overall, the desire for rawness in a band, it has no real nuance, like what you want, but bands, especially AM, signed to a hands off indie label, will (if successful) make more money as they release new music, allowing them a bigger budget to produce the songs that they want to write and progress as they age. It would be so much sadder to see a 35 year old Alex write a song lusting over a girl in a nightclub, compared to his epic and grandiose tale of cheating in Body Paint.
Fucking exactly. People don’t know what they like.
totally
@@CeeJayDee94yep, if they change people complain, if they dont, people complain
happens with a lot of bands and artist, eminem for example lol
Bands evolve mate, just because they don't make the same music as their young selves doesn't mean they are bad.
That's not what he's saying, it's fine you like it but the thing is as the Arctic Monkeys "evolve" they have become less creative. The Car really isn't that experimental it's just different. Different for being differents sake.
Other bands have come and changed up their sound completly and really truly thrown themselves in the deep end like Radiohead with "Kid A" but as I said "The Car" doesn't really do that.
It's got no flavour or punch. And I dont mean that as in it's not rock no that's fine but compared to over baroque pop acts this isn't very good.
I will say I think "There'd better be a mirrorball" is a fantastic song but that's the thing as one song on an album not the sound of an entire album.
Bands evolve, for better or for worse. Some think that AM has evolved for the worse.
@@jacques501 Bruh moment
But they’re not that good too now, tbh they wont had fame like now if release tranquillity base in the first album
@@muhammadalfryan2615 yeah, and The Beatles wouldn't have been the biggest band in the world if Abbey Road had been their first album either. Never understood arguments like this. Plus, "fame" and "popularity" has nothing to do with whether or not something is good; just means it's palatable for a simple mainstream audience.
you're showing exactly whats wrong with music fans. people change, grown, and evolve - especially when they actually care about what they create. Like with the Arctic Monkeys, they literally explain that in their music.
They evolved into a worse version of them.
@@Eimucho Fans will be fans. Even taking bad music as if they were a masterpiece.
@@Eimucho if you honestly think tbhc is bad, your opinion as a music fan is worthless.
@@Eimuchohave to disagree. I belive tranquility bass hotel and Casino is their misunderstood masterpiece.
@@ghost_kinggamer it's simply not your cup of tea, calling it "bad music" is false
just say you just like garage rock and nothing else and get a break. the problem here isn't that arctic monkeys got worse with each album. the problem is that you like a single genre and you can't wrap your head around the fact that a band's sound can't stay the same for 16 damn years.
Literally
The Arctic Monkeys are very good. No band is gonna be completely perfect. Also they were young and now they are in their 30's they are still doing a lot with music and trying new things. LET THEM LIVE
He’s simply saying he dosent like the new style, let him live
I personally became a bigger fan after TBHC and am fully convinced that The Car is one of the most tastefully made albums of all time. So full of musical moments and memorable events.
Finally someone with a good opinion, couldn’t agree more, I love the new direction their taking
I appreciated the detailed content of this video, but I think you gave little weight to the artistic evolution of the band... They have simply matured and refined (sometimes a bit forcedly) their sound. I mean... I bet if they had churned out albums similar to the first one we would have all been here complaining about it too... so... :)
The artistic evolution of this band is shit, and they matured like shit too
You think ? If they were the same quality, I dont think so...
@@Rodolka hey mate, yeah, I think so... and that's just my humble and personal opinion, but still, let me be even more precise:
I bought tickets for their show in Rome (July 2023) so I'm kinda happy to known that the concert won't be hyper-energetic throughout the entire show... Let me put it this way... they balanced their live performances by writing chill songs... 🤷♂️
@@valdeicampi What song would they play in 2023?? Do u know?
@@valdeicampi that sucks, its great when rock bands play one or two ballads because it creates a unique and beautiful moment. If half of the concert is chill music it is not unique at all.
Tranquility Base is brilliant in my point of view even (I love TLSP). The car concept is nice but I feel that it needs more electric guitar to be added into the mix to rock it out more (kinda like Pink Floyd or Eagles Hotel California). It kinda lacks the rock and roll of older albums, complexity of tbhc and energy of tlsp.
EXACTLY, when the album cover was released i first thought
Oh is gonna sound nostalgic, psychedelic and like mature old depressed man, you know, i was expecting something like the ultracheese and she looks like fun in terms of sound
im happy the arctic monkeys switched their sound, i liked their old stuff and i like this more. know exactly what theyre going for and they hit the mark imo
i see what you did there 😉
good afternoon
mark? like- like mark from tbhc? mark speaking how may i direct your call??
I agree, it’s a nice change, refreshing
Quality video. Although I disagree, The Car literally made my 2022 a good year, and Mr. Turner is an amazing lyricist and vocalist in my opinion; I can still really appreciate the effort you put into saying your opinion. I hope to see more from you!
My favorite thing about Arctic Monkeys it's that every single album sounds really different, if I get bored with WPSIA I can switch to Hambug, and if I get bored with that album I can listen to The Car, they're not perfect but I really love that
One of the main reasons I love Arctic Monkeys is how they evolved their sound with every album. Sure Whatever People Say I Am is fantastic but what good is a band if they don't take any risks with music? Just because their sound changes or isn't what it was in the beginning, doesn't make it bad. They're one of the few artists that constantly evolve and I'm here for it. You have to respect them for doing what they do.
How can you expect them to not evolve? People change, minds change, inspiration changes, song-writing processes change. I do understand the longing for their old vibrant sound, but being slow-paced doesn't equal being "garbage". There's something about Alex; you may not understand his songs at first, but they grow on you, the more you listen to it, the more you hear. Heck, I love that. I feel their recent albums are more of an acquired taste, rather than an instant hit. (Except, of course, masterpieces like There'd better be a mirrorball, that's just art). Also, sorry about my english, not my first language, I still hope I made myself clear :)
this is the most perfect english ive ever seen wdym
This is very well said.
You like the old stuff, but it's clear the band isn't trying to sound like they were, when they were younger. Their new stuff (Tranquility Base) is amazing, especially the lyrical work. Don't think it's fair at all to say the band is garbage lol.
But...mmh. I think you didn't understand his point, of course he doesn't like the new stuff, he's explaining why, and it's not bc of nostalgia or he adores rock. Ok the band isn't trying to sound like they were, that doesn't mean they are good now:/, he doesn't hate the new direction, maybe he simply listened other albums with the same sound that have done a better work?
@@franconavarro2256 Go to the 29 minute mark where he starts bashing on Alex Turner and comparing him to his older self and tell me he's not just being nostalgic... Obviously the band is not perfect but they continue to deliver some of the best songwriting of any band (at least) I follow
“Moon’s side Boob” I love Tranquility but no lyrics have only gotten worse since the debut
Did he really just sit there for 32 minutes and complain about the Arctic Monkeys growing up? You sound absolutely goofy, they deliver every single time.
Yep
i dont agree. i think time has passed and the band has grown. 30 year old alex turner isnt 17 year old alex turner and that's expected.
clearly the kind of music they make now is not to your liking, but that doesnt make music bad.
anyway, the video is very good. im glad yt recommended it.
Fair enough mate, could easily just not be for me
I see arctic monkeys discography as a life journey of a young man. Started as a wild young guy with full of energy and slowly becoming more mature. But unfortunately the older they get, the more boring their songs get. I mean i still like the new stuff but i definitely understand why some fans says that it's boring. It's not bad by any mean but it's becoming more repetitive. I hope their next record will finnaly got the perfect balance of the new sound and the old energy they used to have.
I love AM with all my heart and I also love their new stuff but yes, I agree with you, they should have more balance with their sound, I mean just imagine how cool it would be if they add orchestra, jazz, cinematic and psychedelic sounds, but also desert rock like their Humbug era… I mean it would be amazing. I really hope they add more frenetic sounds to their next album
I have very different but similar opinions on this lovely band.
I do really like WPSIATWIN and favorite worst nightmare (Though I love the lyrics and songs like The Only Ones Who Know and Do Me A Favor and I overall listen to FWN more)
I LOVE Humbug I love the lyrics and the storytelling to me is really interesting (except the go cart and it’s one line in a whole album)
I love the heaviness of it and I really like the way Alexs sings.
I think AM is fine (I LOVE No 1 party anthem and snap out of it and Arabella are pretty good tho.)
I LOVE tranquility
It’s so interesting and gets better with every listen. (Maybe I can agree that Alex’s voice is not the best but to me it fits with the story of a lonely pianist in space)
And The Car to me is tranquility but without the interesting story or sound. They sound good a there are some interesting like big ideas, sculptures and body paint but other than that I’m indifferent to the rest.
I did not mean to write this much but what I wanted to say is that this is such a great video production wise that even when I really didn’t agree it was still a fun time. I can’t believe this doesn’t have more views. A really great video even though I disagree 🫶
Such a lovely comment this, I wish they were all like yours. Have a good one lass
I never listened to Arctic Monkeys outside of hearing "Do I Wanna Know" in passing.
One day Spotify played a track from TBHC and I was hooked and bought the CD (considering buying the LP). I loved The Car too.
I decided to listen to their other stuff and it didn't grab me at first, but I dug it. I kept listening and listening to their older work and eventually it really grew on me and I'll likely buy one of their early albums. I love that this band can really throw down on guitars, bass, and drums but can totally switch to piano, synth, strings, etc.
Main takeaway, they clearly did SOMETHING right to get a new fan.
So, basically he likes how Arctic Monkeys sounded on their debut album and calls them garbage now because he doesn't enjoy what they're making nowadays, that sums it up pretty well
No, he said that the quality of these songs have dropped. He liked songs in the album but hated it overall
@@JohnIGuess which would be ok if it was true, but it isn't. the Arctic Monkeys have changed and if he doesn't like it that's fine, but if you watched the video you know how many times he said how "oh my god this is so bad" when in reality it isn't. It's even in the title how he thinks they're garbage now
AM has made them successful enough already.
They don't need to make radio easy songs anymore. The Arctic Monkeys is now the band's passion project.
A creative outlet for Alex and the Band.
TLSP is also the same thing.
Nothing to do with that
1. You did Favourite Worst Nightmare so dirty, there’s literally not 1 bad track on that album (including The Bad Thing) and Alex sounds great (I do agree I would like some raw vocals, but the effects used on his voice in this album mesh really well with the guitar effects)
2. Humbug has some of Alex greatest lyrics that you conveniently downplayed! In Dance Little Liar, Secret Door, Cornerstone you can really see how imaginative Alex Turner’s mind is (not to mention arctic monkeys best song ever is on Humbug, Crying Lightning)
3. AM is a poppy version of Arctic Monkeys that we all needed. How can you deny the catchiness of this album which made it as successful as it is?
4. I saw them live a few months ago, I think they recognise their 2 latest albums are missing the energy needed for a live show, they only performed 1 track from TBHC and 3 from The Car. You might think they’re boring now but believe me when I say it took 5 days after the show for my adrenaline to begin simmering down. The energy live is indescribable. (Fun fact: the best part of the show is their performance of Body Paint from The Car)
this guy does not understand what evolve means. its like judging the beatles that all their albums should have sounded like the first album and said “revolver and rubber soul is the wordt album ever made by the beatles”
I used to think the album after AM is just doesn't worth listening to, but after listening to There'd better be a mirrorball and body paint I'm amazed by Arctic monkeys talent for making such beautiful album yet so different from the previous one. The Car is my favourite album right and from the Tranquility base hotel + casino I'm still listening to it although Four out of Five is just straight up banger
The irony is that if he stuck with the sound of the first record, he would be selling out.
Instead, he's following his growing influences.
Is it less exciting on AM and The Car at times? Yea. But his ability to weave through these subtle and broad genre sweeps are pretty impressive.
His L Cohen influence has been leading the way lately.
We'll see what comes next.
Hope you find something else to enjoy
I think it’s ironic that your main complaint for AM is that every songs is alike, but also you’d want for them to have stayed in their original 1st album sound, ultimately meaning that every album would have been the same. Also, I think AM definitely has “catchy hooks” most than other albums even. You say that is just commercial music but I think is was just another step of their evolution. Then you state that you were glad they tried something new for TBHC even though they have done that with basically every album, kinda contradictory. So I thought you were going to give actually compelling arguments but instead this basically is “I don’t like it”.
PD Also “I see Do the Bad Thing as the beginning of the end for this band” brother, we’re barely on the 2nd album.
i get what you’re saying how they have changed from their rock and roll roots but i feel like every change that they incorporated into their sound worked. alex turner couldn’t keep going with the themes of whatever people say i am because he was growing as a person and not just a musician. he couldn’t keep writing about nightlife past mid 20’s maybe it just gets boring and repetitive which is why i’ve grown out of that album. it’s still really good and i love tracks like a certain romance and vampires but it gets repetitive. moving to fwn and then humbug was a really good transition, favorite worst nightmare was darker than whatever people say then humbug brought it more down and into a experimental phase that queens of the stone age inspired. suck it and see is my favorite because the change they brought didn’t really work it seemed too americanized to me and they had really lost the rock and roll sound while still being rock music it just didn’t work. AM id also one of my least favorites as its popularity has driven me away and the more anthemized sound i never liked. arabella i love probably coming from my love of war pigs by black sabbath since the drums are essentially the same. they had lost so much of their original sound though with that album that tranquility base was a phenomenal album to me it changed their sound completely but also continued off of alex turners side piece the last shadow puppets. the bowie operatic sound i really enjoyed and was a 180 sonically to their music. the lyricism i absolutely loved the psychedelic aspect to it was really well done in my opinion. the car, while i love some songs on there, sculptures, body paint, mirrorball, just seems like a toned down, less experimental form of tranquility base. i know this is a lot but i love this band so much and i really disagree with your point of them “falling off” or losing their greatness
I on the other hand have a completely different(and unpopular) opinion about their albums, I don't really like their early work that much except for a couple songs on each album,but after am i just instantly loved everything they did, specially tbhc,their instrumental work and alex's voice evolved a lot here,+the piano addition just gave them a fresh air on every song,in my thoughts tbhc is the album of the decade,but very underappreciated because of the sudden change from high tempo heavy guitars to slow and more diverse songs,where all the instruments blend making a great sound,i think this change could be less "forced" with louder guitars on songs like four out of five, american sports, star treatment and batphone,this would make them get less hate from the early fans while maintaining the originality of the album,the same could be done on the car,i was expecting actually a blend between their early work and the new one,but didn't happen,still loved body paint,hello you,big ideas and i ain't quite where i think i am
You should've named the video "I only liked the Monkeys' first record and can't move on from 2006"
If I find a band garbage, I would certainly not spend a few days of my life making a half hour statement about it.
Good for you man
I completely disagree. I think Arctic Monkeys are on a creative high. If you look at classic artists like Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Kinks, Roxy Music, Bowie, etc. They all had different periods with peaks and valleys, most of them achieving their greatest work later in their career. AM ushered in a new era for this band, and has shown to be their biggest success to this date. Tranquility base is a spacey, atmospheric, conceptual piece that showed brave experimentation. The car continued this move into a more orchestral direction that is truly beautiful and when you consider where they came from, super daring and ballsy. Artists evolve and mature. These guys are not 16 year old punks anymore. These guys are approaching middle age and have different tastes, goals, values, and priorities in their art and personal lives. Being that Turner is their main song writer, he has clearly been on a sweeping personal journey the past 10 years or so. I love the work they are putting out now.
The way I see it is that Arctic Monkeys evolve so much between albums that you can’t compare them to one another. Each one has its unique characteristics we can all talk about and enjoy, why we gotta fight we all like the same band😂
AM in my opinion is the most badass record of all time
AM in my opinion is the most bad/ass record of all time
@@Dankyjabo nice one mate
@@Dankyjabo im going to have to agree with him 🙄
I agree. I love AM bc it introduced me to the Arctic Monkeys and I still love most songs on that album. Their older (and newer) stuff just doesn't feel as accessible to me.
@@Dankyjabo me when I have terrible opinions
he s almost 40 and you want him to sing when he was 20
Bro really said he can't move on, so labelled a band garbage for being able to do so themselves.
They're fucking fantastic now. Always have been. Always will be. They didn't make what you wanted, grow up lol
Personally I think that Arctic Monkeys old discography are full of absolute bangers, but listening to their new stuff there is such a clear difference in what type of music they put out. And to be completely honest I don’t really like their newest album it just doesn’t hit the same as their past albums like favourite worst nightmare
@Astro Jenkins Check your ears, French music lover...
I admit I didn't like the car as much as their previous albums, but their music is still pretty good. They just evolved as they grew older and I love them for that
While I can respect it's your opinion, I don't agree with anything you said in this entire video. Firstly, Alex has objectively improved as a singer since the first two albums. It stylistically might not be your cup of tea, but it is objectively better. Secondly, you kept hammering home your belief that they left the Rock genre starting with Humbug, this isn't true either Humbug, Suck it and See, and AM are all Rock just not garage rock like the first couple. Thirdly, AM has the same themes throughout it as the first album, just instead of it being from the perspective and experiences of a 19 year old kid it's from the perspective and experiences of a man in his mid 20s.
I could keep going, but I don't think one single TH-cam comment is the proper place to lay out an entire rebuttal, lol
we get it, you like WPSIATWIN. Keep listening to that record, and I'll keep enjoying their new AND old material.
OK WE AGREE ON AM. ALL IS FORGIVEN.
Ahhh yes, another person that hears a sound that isn’t their taste and just assumes ‘yes it’s trash’ without any regard for production quality or songwriting.
So in summary, you are angry that a 30 something year old man living in the US doesn't write songs about teenage experiences clubbing in Sheffield anymore. Got it.
Don't get me wrong, WPSIATWIN is my favourite record of all time, but the new music isn't garbage because it's a genre you don't like. I don't go around shooting videos about how heavy metal bands are bad. You are free to not like it the new direction, but the solution is to go listen to their first albums, not ramble into a microphone lmao.
I feel like your criticisms of Humbug are really odd, like "Would you like me to build you a go-kart?" is not weird at all when you take in the whole verse instead of just that one line to find stuff to be angry about.
The same thing with AM, calling it lacking in interesting riffs when DIWK and R U Mine? are some of the catchiest guitar parts they have ever written is insane to me. If you think those riffs are worse than something like Fake Tales of San Francisco, I genuinely don't understand how you come to that conclusion other than maybe nostalgia. Mocking No 1. Party Anthem for its ironic title while praising Riot Van also makes no sense, since it does the exact same thing (I do agree Riot Van is much better, but this particular criticism just makes no sense. It doesn't apply only it to songs you don't enjoy).
TBHC gets praise for being a risk but The Car doesn't because... you like it less I suppose? I also don't think you realise just how different the 2 albums really are, the latter is MUCH more mellow and string-driven as opposed to the piano driven TBHC. You praise difference at one point, but later say "they're not a rock band anymore" as a critique, which it just isn't. Is it true? Maybe, probably. Is it a slight on them? Not at all really.
Your critique of Alex Turner is also plain weird, going of about the Mastercard speech as if he wasn't taking the piss (just look at the other band members) makes me wonder how you even managed to realise that TBHC is satirical at all.
The whole video is about "it's garbage because it's not what I wanted", which, while not an uncommon opinion, is just not a legitimate criticism, as I've already said above. I would have loved a video like this from a musician who actually went through and tried to improve it to his own liking, saying why he is making each decision, what doesn't work for him and why. THAT would've been fantastic. I would've watched 2 hours of that. But this video? At 1.5 speed it still could've been a tweet.
2/10 purely for the praise you gave the first record and because I agree the new singing style doesn't fit the old songs, though my thoughts certainly aren't as extreme as yours.
And to all those fellas who are just too cool to like the new AM music, this one's for your girlfriend.
Just no
This video can be summed up in two sentences: "I hate change" and "How can I be different today?"
It's each to their own I suppose. Tranquility base is their best album imo. The car is fantastic too. I understand when you're a fan of the style of their early stuff, that you might not necessarily like the new stuff. However, the new stuff is artistically far superior which isnt subjective. It's just a wildly different style of music.
TBH&C is a fucking masterpiece. It’s so, so good.
Get your ears cleaned blud
@@CeeJayDee94 bruh...
@@ghost_kinggamer sit down and take some time with it. **Actually listen to it.** That's my advice.
This was a satisfying watch. Felt like I was crazy cause I was the only one who found Alex’s new fake deep voice and over the top cool guy persona absolutely unbearable.
Agree almost completely on everything you said, except about AM…
Whatever people say is a masterpiece
Alex started his "fake deep voice" and "cool guy persona" on AM bruh
I don't get why ppl say they fell off or aren't doing good anymore, they are doing good, but people are just mad that their style in music has changed, but they are getting old they aren't gonna be doing the same music they did in their 20s, bands evolve, plus they are doing great
Arctic Monkeys have changed between the ages of 20 and 40, shocking news
If people are pissing their pants over him having an opinion, Then why does everyone and I mean *EVERYONE* have at least a handful of gripes about The Car or AM, But albums like Whatever People and Favorite Worst Nightmare are held up as classics?
Rhetorical question: You know damn well deep inside he’s right and you’re letting fanboy logic and sensitivity clog your googles, The Band hasn’t been good since AM and there debut is still their best album
And before you cry “ThATs an OpiNIon”, You know what else is an opinion?; Thinking Pablo Honey is Radiohead’s best album and Blur is trite garbage
WAIT THE TH-camR WHO MADE THIS VIDEO HEARTED THIS COMMENT
It’s not like their first two albums are perfect. It’s disingenuous to say that people have gripes about their last two albums (which is true) but also not about their first two???
And no I don’t “know” the band hasn’t been good since AM and WPSIATWIN was their best because i liked plenty of stuff after AM and WPSIATWIN isn’t my favourite one of their albums. That is an opinion as valid as yours.
They didn’t release their music for free they gave away free demos. Some kid from Sheffield uploaded them to Limewire with the Album name Beneath The Boardwalk.
Try not to shame people for sharing their opinion on the internet. Level failed
What a plonker 😂
you’re british. the last thing you have is the arctic monkeys since the queen died
💀
I know that it's click bait but still considering that you actually like some of their music I think it's too much called called them "garbage" or "biggest fall". I think you've missed the fact to understand Arctic Monkeys you need to included TLSP, since then you can see how the ship has shifted and what was the direction that Alex was going. Idk if it's because the pandemic or the influence of French music or Alex search of perfection but most of the songs of the Car feel overthought; Body Paint for example, in the begining it's trying to be this heart breaking song with some philosophy stuff but then when it truly breaks and leaves all those things it's the perfection and its peak (and sadly the peak of the album too). I went to AM concert this year and Body Paint and Mirrorball sounded amazing, even better than the album version because it was just them; they didn't need that search of perfection, they were doing the things they know. I think the reason why they're still together is just friendship, and the rest of the band get a long so well with Alex because they're also comfortable or too lazy to argue wtih the direction he wants to take. One thing it's for sure that they won't be back with sound of the first album (they even don't play more than 1-2 songs in the gigs) but I really hope that they just follow their nuts in the next album. I'm sorry if this was too much XD
They're high on drugs, that's why they don't stand against him.
Listen, im a huge arctic monkeys fan and i respect this video and its very valid. I love how honest you are with everything you say, but i think you just did too much of critical thinking on albums that point was to be chaotic and fun like fwn. About am yeah its pretty mid, but no where near as bad as you made it, there is a reason why it is one of the most fameous albums in the world. For the other albums you were right for the most part but the car isnt as bad as you made it seem as well, sculpture of anything goes is amazing so is bodypaint mirrorball and inwitia. And about the live performances I AGREE i love alex and everything he has done but hes just trying too hard sometimes so i respect you for pointing that out. Overall bro pretty good video but arctic monkeys will forever be the greatest band ever for me.
they’re just older now.. alex isn’t gonna have the same energy and same voice as he did years ago.. i thought this was a pretty obvious thing. another thing to note, arctic monkeys tend to take on a different “theme” with every album dropped so yeahh ofc it’s going to change up plenty of times. but that’s why so many fans come back to them, it’s because they have something for everyone. i feel like a lot of fans of the am album, for instance, tend to be adolescents (younger people who enjoy indie/pop/ alternative) because it’s a very sexy smooth album and it is geared to a mainstream audience. nothing is wrong with that, it’s just what they were obviously going for. then they changed it up with these last two, i think now they are doing what they like. no one has to like it, but the ones who do, do. that’s it. it’s simple. they aren’t garbage, you just simply don’t like it and that’s okay. i don’t like a lot of music artists lol wouldn’t necessarily call them garbage.. although i guess it’s whatever. at the end of the day people are gonna do and say whatever they like.
now that i think about it, i’m also biased. arctic monkeys are my fav band ever lmao
Ok it bugs me when people come at Alex’s vocals. I’m sorry he doesn’t sing like ed sheeren or Justin Bieber but that’s what makes him unique. Alex’s voice is absolutely beautiful and it makes their tracks sooooo good. Of course the other band mates are absolutely amazing, all of them are amazing but Alex’s voice really stands out to me and it always has. He doesn’t use voice effects especially on FWN, it is super raw but for some reason you say that he sounds drunk and he’s just “rambling” . Also his voice isn’t “out of place” it’s frickin indie rock mate. His voice isn’t supposed blend in with the music in the back it’s supposed to stand out but you’re upset because it doesn’t blend in?? But then In Sias and AM you’re calling it bland because his voice is blending in??? Bro make up your mind. Stop coming at them Because they changed… leave ‘em alone
Also, using The 1975 as the alternative non-sellout example was painful to hear out loud. Reconsider
I always find that AM are at their best when they’re experimenting. hence why Humbug and Tranquility are my favourite albums and AM is my least favourite by far. the debut and FWN I listen to with a lot of nostalgia, but I’m much less into the music than I was 10 years ago. Suck It and See leans heavily on Alex’s songwriting, and I think it showcases some of his best ever. probably third in my ranking (despite Brick by Brick). already mentioned AM, but I don’t dislike it at all. I think it’s boring, bland and not at all interesting in any way, but it’s the album that got me heavily into music as a 10 year old and I have a lot of nostalgia for it. The Car is something else entirely. it doesn’t sound like TBHC to me at all. I really love most of the songs on there but can’t get into two or three
tdlr: arctic monkeys are garbage because this guy doesn't like them now
I'm not saying you need to think they're garbage as well, I'm so sick of getting comments like these
@@Dankyjabo never said you said i need to think anything
I've heard all these takes before. You don't like Alex's singing post FWN. You think his lyrics got worse, which I'd disagree with. Sure they are not as viciously rythimically delivered as on their debut but, submarine, sias, and yes AM (even if it's really poppy- I agree it's not very good imo) R u mine (is the same as do I wanna know and boring? LOL crazy), Do I wanna know (overrated i agree), love is a laserquest, stuck on a puzzle, its hard to get around the wind, shes thunderstorms. There is some really great song writing in there, and I like Alex's change in vocal style. I agree their debut is by far there best but all of their albums have good song's and the only album I personally dislike is am. Also all these critiques go right out the door for tbhc and the car. The commercial appeal and simplicty that the band adapted for am and sias, which I feel they did rather tastefully is replaced by super complex songwriting. TBHC has some of alex's best songwriting, and I find it to be rather objective. And as soon as he does some experimental songwriting anf structure its "awkward and clumsy and he cant sing right" TBHC Is so imaginative and specific, the album builds a world that the listener builds in their head. I understand people not liking it but to argue it doesnt have merit, especially on alex's part is fucking insane. the car is better than AM ur insane lmao. calling the band garbage is just crazy to me. jokes on you for making a 30 minute video just to call a band garbage.
You have to have been there in 2005 to know how AM came out of nowhere and how influential and face melting that album was, how they took the world by storm and became huge rock stars in a matter of seconds, it just blew us all off
TBH+C is one of my fav albums ever, dont really like the car, but I wouldnt say they are garbage by any means
So basically this guy really likes indie rock, and he's mad the band evolved past the 2000's. He just wants more of the first album, anything else he thinks is garbage
Alright, I'm gonna let this video sit for a while and then make a responding to comments video, I'll address this then
I first watched this video after listening to only two albums of Arctic Monkeys (FWN and TBHC) and, even though i didnt completely agree on your comment, I decided to listen to their other albums and... I agree with you a lot more now. Personally, I think that TBHC is not that bad of an album (but nowhere near a masterpiece as some said) and is better than Suck it and See and AM. I feel like their first two albums were and still are the perfect example of how to do something simple and easily lovable without being commercial music like AM is (Suck it and See also tried to be but failed miserably). WPSIATWIN is an amazing debut and FWN is, even if not perfect, a good change to complete the style started by the debut. Humbug is okay? Suck it and See and AM are just.. sad. While AM is kinda ok commercial type of songs, Suck it and See is bad commercial music. TBHC was to me their best album since FWN, i guess i like their slower but not dead style of music. The Car loses the saver of TBHC (instrumentals) and replaces it with a singer that tries to be a bad impression of David Bowie. As of right now, even if they wanted, i don't think there is a way to them to be back in the Rockier and faster sound. It would be a bigger shock to the fanbase than the AM to TBHC transition. To me, the Arctic Monkeys managed to make an amazing fast and energetic sound to a sad and sleepy version of david bowie.
Tbh im not watching a 32 minutes of yapping session. They've said they are ofc not gonna stay as they were almost 20 yrs ago, their music is ofc not gonna remain the same, the new album imo was a fucking masterpiece
I think I went through the 5 stages of grief when I first listened to the car. (Especially listening to their current 505) But at the end of the day it’s what they’re happy with.
I also prefer listening to the TBHC and the car in the live recordings, I’d say it’s better than the album versions.
I wanna be yours is a cover of John Cooper Clarke’s song/poem so the criticism of the lyrics shouldn’t be aimed at Turner
I know I know, I just don't really care, it doesn't make it any less boring
@@Dankyjabo haha fair enough
@@Dankyjabo I disagree with a lot of it and love the new stuff but appreciate the video! Nice work
@@crazygooseproductions3154 love brother love
Good thing you can’t see dislikes any more
It's about 50/50 fyi
Personally I love the Arctic Monkeys. I believe they are one of the best bands. For them to change their sound is a good thing as it doesn't become boring and maybe someday they will revisit the rock'n roll side they once gained. This in particular shows not only Alex Turner is possibly one of the best songwriters but how this band is unique and experiments different sounds.
"505 is the typical song every 14 year old girl cries about" SHSHH, I was that girl
PS: Top content mate 👌
bro really just parroted Anthony Fantanos points like he made all these exact same points in his car review smh
If they’d still be writing the music they did 17 years ago you’d call them immature
30:45 boy what. the 1975 are a different genre that performs obiously differemt. alex turner himself said that he never intened to be the frontman and he wanted to convince the rest of the band to be an instrumental band becuas HE DIDNT WANT TO SING. you cant just say you dislike alex turner and let that be the reason to dislike his music becuase of his stage presence or whatever. shut up no one wanted to hear this. the 1975s debut wand follow up was shit too.
Bro finally an Arctic Monkey opinion I can agree with. I really can’t stand anything after FWN and never seen my reasons really summed up better than in this video. Thanks
"Everything is amazing, great quality in the production"
"But I don't like It so It's fucking garbage lmfaoao"
You put quotation marks for things I didn't say
I don't think you know how quotes work my friend
I love their new album and i completely disagree with this guy. It’s fine if their newer sound isn’t your taste but that doesn’t mean they’ve gotten worse and that doesn’t mean they’re garbage. Stop whining because a band doesn’t stay exactly the same mate.
least brad taste in music fan:
Idek what this is supposed to mean
It is fair for people are dissapointed with The Car since most fans were not ready for Alex and the monkeys to stay on that chill wavelength of sound. However, the Car have some aspect of brilliance to it, IMO its more of an experience. You say in the The Car most of the songs sounds the same but Sculptures of Anything Goes is way different to Jet Skis on The Moat. Yes, none of the songs rock like previous albums but I think there is some beauty in that. Much like Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino, The Car is meant to enjoyed kinda like a home listen instead that in a mosh pit. I think that Alex understands that he alienating a lot of fans with the new sound but it looks he doesn't give AF anymore and honestly gotta give it some respect for it. The Car is not their best work but its just another step into the evolution of this incredible band that always keeps me on the tip of my toes. and for those that liked Tranquility Base and The Car, you should listen to Everything I've Come To Expect from the Last Shadow Puppets. Still, cool video dude! love the editing and the analysis.
I'm a big fan of the first album. Didn't care for the rest personally that followed but I wouldn't say they were bad, I just didn't take to them. Most of the bands I listen to change, some I continue to take to while others not so (enjoyed the first 2 Kings of Leon albums but from the 3rd one onward, not at all). Absolutely love The Car. It's a masterpiece, like the first one. It is music of course, so enjoyment can be especially subjective. The Arctic Monkeys are like Radiohead to me. Some of their stuff ranks as the best music I've ever enjoyed and other songs I get absolutely nothing from.
I watched the whole video, agree & disagree with a lot of points. I saw Arctic Monkeys before they released their debut album. At 1st I didn't believe the hype then I heard From The Ritz To The Rubble & began to understand the importance of them. Their debut is my favourite, then FWN, AM, TBHC, Suck it, then Humbug & The Car on the same level in last place.
I still enjoy watching this band perform live & Alex Turner when he walks onstage, he has the crowd in the palm of his hand. He's a much better frontman than other big bands like Brandon from The Killers, Caleb in Kings of Leon.
Arctic Monkeys were amazing in 2006 & still great now with a wonderful array of classic singalong anthems, amazing guitar solos & will be headlining festivals for years to come.
i just don’t understand why you even bothered yourself to make a video about something you dislike so much. you totally have the right to have your own opinion but for me the band is great and you didn’t have to talk absolute shit about alex turner himself (besides vocals) and the albums! remember that they have a ton of fans til this day for a reason
He's jealous
Feel the same way the author does, maybe AM deserves bit less thrashing cause of it's poppyness, but rest of the video is pretty much spot on. And yes the singer seams like a pretentious person... fame has not made him a better artist.
The world needs people that are wrong to make things interesting.
I'd recommend turning down the volume when doing the "Eating the mic for emphasis" thing, or at least do it less often. That got pretty irritating
I don’t care what anyone says the monkeys are still the best British band since the beetles
I have never experienced such anger issues as I did while watching this video
The editing is seizure-inducing
They’re cooking you alive in the replies and they’re right ‼️ i would suggest pondering about how these guys are almost 40 now
I just don't get the AM slander, it's a great album
nope... i mean even if their music doesnt sound like their 2000-2010s albums nowadays , theyre still growing . as a fellow indie & AM enjoyer i LOVED tranquility base hotel & casino once it came out in 2018 and even if arctic monkeys kept changing their sound i didnt feel this 'evolution' made them worse . i get the car wasn't very welcome by some fans though , i prefer tranquility base than the recent album . all i can say is that at least the band is willing to take new paths and mature after all these years whether u like it or not , n i still think theyre rlly talented and good at what they do :)
Personally tranquility base and the car are more relistenable for me than a lot of the previous albums
I want to say that there's quite a lot he seems to have gotten wrong in this video.... no matter what your opinion is totally valid! I also used to only like a song if it was upbeat and made me move, but elements that you said you didn't like weren't very accurate. Despite picking up on O'Malley's great basslines you hardly touched on Matt's drumming and he's really one of my heroes. Pretty visitors is often noted as some of his best work and I actually really think it works making such a feature of his drumming on songs like this and crying lightning- the hi-hats have a sizzle that feels like the aftermath of lightning strikes...
and I think you somewhat missed the point of 'I wanna be yours' (I know it is a pretty sappy love song but) I don't think Alex actually wrote the lyrics, it's based on a John Cooper Clark poem... and despite what you might think having the slower heavy and lumbering guitar sounds in humbug and AM feels like a really powerful change to their sound, something about the depth and "swampy" feel of it is just intoxicating. I feel like that comes from allowing each note to really resonate and perhaps hold some meaning, also some of the guitar solos that come out of that to contrast it! it just seems to add a whole new level to the songs, I actually really like that each instrument is giving the others space, one might be occupying higher subdivisions while another provides an intriguing counter-melody/riff. something about it just seems to fit.
Although facing some mild disappointment when I first heard TBHC it has really grown on me, and I really like lots of the songs, so I'm quite glad you seem to like that one. You are spot on that it's more about the interesting production in the latter two albums, I think it's hugely enriched by inspirations like David Bowie and John Lennon that feel quite prominent. I think Alex sometimes takes this a touch too far and tries to drag a lot with the lyrics, which means that often in more recent live shows people are losing interest as they can't sing along as much as with previous more rhythmic vocals.
one thing I'd like to point out is how stubborn you are about the car's cover? (Matt took that picture himself, and it's a really interesting picture with angles and lines and a single focus- the car.
I'm glad you like Bodypaint, I agree its one of the best songs on the album, but your last point about 505 doesn't hold up for me, if He went from singing Star treatment straight into that one and was expected to change his voice just because when he was a squeaky teen he sounded that way people would probably think he's a really weird guy....
overall, I agree with some of the more solid arguments against this being a solid band, but there's a lot more to it than just Alex.
this band is getting sold out for almost every concert in 3 different continents for 2023 and you could hardly get 5 people to your birthday. I really dont think they are garbage now. Just shut up and stop hating the world.
Bands like Imagine Dragons and AJR always sell out their concerts as well, it doesn't make them any less dogshit
@@Dankyjabo Imagine dragons is not my type of music but that doesn't mean I have to call them dogshit. That's how full of crap people like you really are. Just criticizin everything because god only nows what happen in yall lifes. Imagine dragons and ajr will be forever more successful and happier than you.
@@Dankyjabo and the car is a beautiful album. Might be too beautiful for a person like you
Well im definitely making sure this page will never pop up on my phone again
wrong
Why?
@@Dankyjabo Their best album? Probably not, their worst? Not when suck it and see exists. Alex's voice might not be your cup of tea these days but calling it terrible is just objectively wrong, I enjoy his voice on this album and love all the songs on it other than "The Car". Your hate towards Arctic Monkeys is purely fueled by your dislike towards Alex which is crazy because he's the genius behind the band which is also proved by his side projects.
@@matthewyevtushenko5282 I think Turner is a brilliant songwriter and a very talented musician. He just doesn't do a good job showing off his talents imo, kind of like Rivers Cuomo but more boring
what are you 5?
@Dankyjabo, great video, my compliments! I miss the (your) eye for development, look at the journey AM have made over the years, I think it is beauitiful as they develop and change like people do. Dont expect adolecent albums from AM as they left that phase and...... dont be surprised if they rock the shit out on a future album.