TECH TIP: Encrypting and external hard drive on a mac
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- If you're on an Apple Mac and want to encrypt your drives using the Apple file System then this is a how-to with two choices.
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Thank you so very much for getting straight to the point, not wasting peoples time - like so many others do. Tis highly commendable and respectful of people who are busy.
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻 Appreciate your time 😁
That was exactly what I needed to know. Quick and to the point. Thank you for sharing.
Glad you found it useful and thanks for watching 😁
Answers all basic questions. Great video. Keep it up man!
Thanks for the feedback ☺️
Thanks that was helpful.
Glad it helped 👍🏻
Hey terry thanks for the amazing video really helpful. QQ: If we get the HD encrypted on MacOS, would it work on Windows? or would it only work on MacOS and no other OS?
Only on Mac I'm afraid as that file system is not windows native. Glad it helped 👍
Thank you for a helpful video Terry! Does anyone know a method to change the LaCie password in the future?
You can download the Seagate/Lacie password software 👍
I have a full drive that I don’t want to delete everything off of it first to encrypt. If I use your second method of right clicking to encrypt will it erase everything it just add a protected pw? Thanks so much
Right clicking and encrypting won't delete everything, it might just take a long time to encrypt everything. Make sure you have a backup of everything though (which if it's that important you should anyway) as computers can fail and you don't want to loose everything.
Hi, did the second method work for you?? I am not trying to lose/delete my full drive lol
My harddrive UnionSine Data Pocket that I just got, doesn't drop down a "create a password" option even when following these steps. It simply erases the drive and that's all.
Also how do you get that "Snoopy" window to select "encrypt"?
My data is so encrypted sometimes i can't even access it myself.
🤣 real world problems 🤣
This is very helpful. Thanks!
Thank you for the video! I have a question though;
I split (partition) my external SSD drive - 1/2 TimeMachine and 1/2 personal use.
Can I erase and encrypt just my personal half as explained above or it should get interrupted by the partition?
Thanks for watching 😊 You can erase a partition and select to have it encrypted and this will only effect this partition. I quite often do this on my drives and keep a small 'transfer' partition which is FAT32 which can then be used on any system for transferring files.
great information, in case, I forgot the passwords for the external disk, and were not saved in the keychain, what can be the solution? please
No solution sorry 😔 (well not unless you find a hacker that can decrypt it)
I have Big Sur and in "disc utility" I don't have this format function. I have only extended, and dos (fat) ;-( ?
Great explanation, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
really helpful, thanks Terry!
Glad it was helpful!
If i forgot the password can i leave the password window blank and check the box for the keychain... will it unlock the lacie hdd
No, you need to enter the password in the box and tick that option for it to be recorded in the keychain. You could always load 'Keychain access' app and search through it incase you did say it at some point and for some reason it's not registering now.
Nice video. Question--is it overkill to encrypt a partition with APFS encrypted and then back up an encrypted Time Machine to that same partition?
Great question. I would say yes! Create an APFS partition which isn't encrypted or at least have it so your tim machine isn't encrypted. As all you are doing is double encrypting everything which takes time. That is unless you have the secrets to the universe which you never want anyone to find 🤔
Can we encrypt the HD without erasing it first? For example if I have been using the HD for a while, but now want to encrypt it.
As long as it's in the correct file system already then you can just right click and encrypt. If the encrypt isn't there then it's probably in fat32 or something else and that is not compatible.
great video! Is there a way to turn it OFF??? For some reason when I enter the password on an older mac, it says it's incorrect. It only works on the machine I encrypted it on.
Yes you can decrypt by right clicking on the drive and selecting 'decrypt'. It will need to be on the mac that sees it. Not had that problem before to be fair.
@@TerryLivesey cool it currently says “encrypting…” and it’s greyed out. Taking awhile. It’s a 1 TB drive completely filled and on day 2. Thanks for the info!
Ah that will be why you can't access it on another mac yet. Until it fully finishes encrypting the drive you won't be able to use elsewhere or decrypt. I've had it take days before when I did it with a drive with a lot of data on and minutes with a blank drive. Hope that helps ☺️
Excellent! To the point! Bravo!
Thank you 😊
It works very well, thank you so much.
You’re welcome - thanks for the feedback 👍🏼
why does my mac have no encrypted option on menu, It only has journeyed, case journeyed, ms-dosfat, exfat
It will be because your drive is not formatted with the GUID Partition Map. Not sure why it wouldn’t have been formatted with this as it’s the standard unless it’s carried over from really old Mac OS.
@@TerryLivesey its not that old and i do have the lastest software
@@almighty6324 i have the same problem, did you find solution?
If you select Mac OS Extended (journaled) and make sure it is using the GUID Partition Map then it will work. Make sure you have a copy of your data before you format the drive so you can put it back on (sorry if that was obvious, just wouldn't want anyone to loose data). Hope that helps.
@@TerryLivesey how do we make sure it's using the GUID Partition Map?? How can we set that up?
Thank you! May I ask where you got that Snoopy sticker for your laptop?
Ha just on eBay, it was so long ago it's not showing on my list anymore. Plenty on there though 👍
Hi, can you help me. I can't remember my password and can't get it to my Lacie Hard drive. Is there a way I can re set it? Thanks
Oh 😱 I don't know of a way as its pretty good security, I'm sure there might be some smart people who are use to hacking things that might be able to but over never heard of it. Sorry I can't help 😔
I have followed your instructions but it does not work. Can't see where I'm going wrong!?
Hey Nick, Not sure which bit for you is not working but if it's not finding the option then this is a great article on why your not seeing it and how to see it (easier to point you to here as it has the pictures) www.macworld.com/article/331828/cant-find-the-scheme-menu-show-all-drives-in-macoss-disk-utility.html
@@TerryLivesey In newer versions of MacOS only APFS is availaible for encryption and it only works on SSDs
Hey Thomas, not true. I have the latest M1 Mac Pro and have access to all the driver formats. It might be that you are trying to ‘erase’ the container which will only give you the option of APFS as it’s already in an APFS format. Encryption still works on non SSD drives as well. Hope that helps and points you in the right direction.
Can I encrypt drives on iPad or iPhone ? If I encrypted a drive on my Mac could I then open this using an iPad?
If you format the drive with APFS and encrypt it, it can be opened in files on IOS14 or iPadOS14. If it’s encrypted using HFS then no. You have to set the drive up from a mac in the first place though.
Hey Terry, thank you for the video. I followed your second method for a 2T WD hard drive and successfully inputted my password, set up the encryption etc. But now the hard-drive (APFS Encrypted) won't mount and its greyed out in disk utility. It's been like this overnight. Is this normal ie it's still encrypting or do you know if something's gone wrong?
When it's encrypting you can still access the drive. It initially de-mounts the drive when it goes to format it. You can manually click the mount button in the disk utility, otherwise eject and re-attach. The system cannot do anything (apart from initialise the disk) with the drive (encrypt etc) whilst it is de-mounted. I've had that happen before on a format and unplugging the drive and reconnecting works. Hope thats help and let me know how you got on. 👍🏻
@@TerryLivesey I gave it a go restarting the laptop and trying to manually connect in disk utility but no luck. Pops up with an error message and first aid doesn't fix it.
But allgood! I got a recovery software and then reformatted the disk again. Thanks for responding :)
Glad you got it all sorted 👍🏻
Do you know how to encrypt an external WD hard drive that is formatted and partitioned to use with Mac and Windows by chance? I've read about veracrypt but it seems a little complex and I have to download software on every device I wish to open my drive on. Is there a way to encrypt it like you did in the video while being able to still use it on both systems?
That way is purely Mac. You are best off using the WD encryption software which works with most of their drives as this does it on a hardware level and is mac and win compatible. If you have one of the drives that doesn't do that then you are going to need third party software which is installed on all computers as you said or go and buy a WD that supports password security.
Thanks Terry, I forgot my external hard drive password and was wondering if there's a way to copy or unlock it without loosing the data? Thanks very much!
Awww man, no way that I've ever heard about. Have you checked your keychain for a stored password?
Hi Terry, yes I did and I also looked online but didn’t get hold of anything that helped 😭
Awww so sorry to hear that. It's a secure encryption and as such has its downsides 🥺
If the files on the max encrypted are Mac only . Are the files not able to be opened on a Windows ? If you export the files to a usb for instance
It’s the drive that is encrypted which means that it can only be unencrypted on a Mac. If you drag / copy a file on to a usb then it will work wherever the usb will work as the file will not be encrypted outside of the original encrypted drive 👍🏻
Fantastic. Can I use encripted ssd to work with Final Cut or Logic pro session?
Yep I use them on finalcut and can edit multichannel without any problems 👍
I always formatted my USB drives as "Mac OS extended Journaled, Encrypted" NOT APFS... I am on Catalina 10.15.7,, so i'm not sure weather would be any befit on a spinning usb drive .. My internal SSD however is APFS.
Although APFS was designed for SSD I have used it on external hard drives for the reason of the flexible partition creation and automatic resizing which is great. If you intend on using the HD on older OS's then it's not compatible and if you just need one single partition then I would use the old system. Hope that helps.
Thank you for the info! =D
hi thanks. is it the same format for using exfat? I have a windows and mac laptop ?
If you use exFAT then you won't be able to encrypt. Unfortunately it is a mac only thing. If you need encryption for both operating systems then you are better off buying a drive like WD which has hardware encryption. Hope that helps :)
@@TerryLivesey Tks for thst
Hey. I've erased my external hard drive with Mac OS Journaled, but when I right clicked on my HDD, the ''encypt this disk' option didnt appear. How to solve this? Thank you
If you select Mac OS Extended (journaled) and make sure it is using the GUID Partition Map then it will work. Make sure you have a copy of your data before you format the drive so you can put it back on (sorry if that was obvious, just wouldn't want anyone to loose data). Hope that helps.
Lord, Father, my God! Thank you very much for your help, I'm very sorry that I didn't check it earlier, because then I would have saved 500 GB of data. But unfortunately I can't restore the data anymore. Thank God I have half of it in the cloud, so I can download it, but I'm very upset that I didn't look it up on TH-cam before. Because I downloaded some very bad encryption program that erased everything from it. A friend of mine has been trying to get the data back for days. But he already gave it up because he couldn't get it all back for me.
Awww sorry you lost your data 😟
This doesnt seem to work with a thumb drive, I doesnt give me the encrypted Journal option :/
If you select Mac OS Extended (journaled) and make sure it is using the GUID Partition Map then it will work. Make sure you have a copy of your data before you format the drive so you can put it back on (sorry if that was obvious, just wouldn't want anyone to loose data). Hope that helps.
@@TerryLivesey I had the same problem, found this comment, and your reply... it works for me! thank you so much!
Just yesterday, I formatted my sandisk ssd Apfs and rather than creating a partition I created volumes which was incredibly handy, not having to specifically decide an allowance of storage offer each partitio.
I have installed many gb of data on there for music plugins which I I don't want to risk losing at I've used the download license code. If I encrypt the device, creating a password of my choice, by simply right clicking and selecting encrpyt as you did, will this effect/wipe the drive ? Or will it retain all the information and simply just apply a password? I'm hoping the for the later!
Thanks!
Great question - choosing it from the menu and choosing encrypt will just encrypt the current volume. The only way to wipe the volume (in one go) is to format it from disc manager (or similar third party app). You will also find that if a destructive operation is going to occur Apple will tell you and warn you. Now that being said, I never alter anything on a volume without having a backup as things can happen even if they are not meant to - if I'm going to cry if I loose my data, then I back up 😜
Hello, My external backup drive is decrypting. I did not realize the option had been selected after I erased/installed Catalina on my computer. I know from encrypting the drive a couple of years ago, that it takes a long time. But it seems the decrypting seems stuck at 90%. I've run the "diskutil cs list" in Terminal. that shows it is converting (backward), reverting, with progress at 90%. This is a Seagate 8 TB drive. Any clues about why it might be stuck? The progress indicator has not moved all day. Many thanks.
I think it might just be taking a long time, I've had that before which has taken days 🥺
@@TerryLivesey Thank you. It finally finished decrypting last Saturday (six days in total). For some reason, I now have three "iMac - Data" volumes (two of which I renamed because Time Machine wouldn't do a backup with so many Data drives.) So far, things seem OK. Thanks.
Hey. For a Western Digital Hard Drive, do I need to just encrypt using MacOS Extended Journaled (Encrypted) or both using the WD built-in software as well? Can I just stick to encrypting with the Mac formatting? Thanks
Great question. Use either but not both. The WD is compatible if you want to use it on Mac or PC whereas the Mac encryption is for Mac os only. I personally use the WD as it's hardware encrypted if I use those drives otherwise it's Mac OS. Hope that helps 👍
If I encrypt using MacOS as I use Mac only, will my drive be readable/formattable on a PC?
As you mentioned in the video that encrypting with the MacOS might be better since you don’t need to keep the WD software updated. I’m confused which one might be better for me.
If Mac only then just use the Mac encryption as everything works smoothly in that eco system 👍
Can it be decrypted on any Mac ?
Yep (well as long as it's a recent version) just need your encryption key. 👍
Can encrypt exfat?
No this is for Mac native format only not windows. You would need to use a third party tool for that.
I‘m completely new to MacOS. I tried your tutorial, but the encripted option doesn‘t come up. Am I missing something?
It will be because your drive is not formatted with the GUID Partition Map. Not sure why it wouldn’t have been formatted with this as it’s the standard unless it’s carried over from really old Mac OS or just one of those things.
I formatted an nvme ssd to apfs encrypted so I could reinstall MacOS, but it wouldn’t install macOS because it uses a password… I am so tired of Apple and their weird way of doing it harder to reinstall macOS.
Yes you can't use an encrypted drive as a boot drive. You need an operating system to unencrypt it and it can't load it if it's encrypted. Mac get around this by having an option to encrypt the user account. 👍
@@TerryLivesey Thanks a lot for that info. I will try again.
@@TerryLivesey I have an iMac I can wipe the ssd I am going to put in my MacBook. I should wipe it as MacOS Extended before I put it in my MacBook in order for the disk utility to “see” it?
@@TerryLivesey I found it. There is a drop-down in the Disk Utility where you can select Show all, and there I could go in and select the highest option and delete the ssd again, so the MacBook can select it to install the OS. It’s been a few years since I messed around with Macs, and this option was not shown in all yt videos, but found it accidentally in one and decided to try it.
Ha brilliant, love the fact you solved it 👍 enjoy
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Doesn't work on latest MAC OS.
Hmmm I will have to check that later in the week as the latest os is still reading all my encrypted disks and they haven't changed the file system on the new version so it shouldn't have changed. I'll get back to you 👍
Just tried on Monterey 12.0.1 and all works as before. Make sure you have it set to 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and GUID Partition Map. Then you can right click on it and encrypt. Hope that helps.
@@TerryLivesey Thank you for the help. Not sure where to find "GUID Partition Map"
When you go to format the disk it the second drop down box 👍
@@TerryLivesey I don’t see a second drop down option when I go to format the disk..
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