Joe Rogan: "Madonna's Wearing A Diaper"
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Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Derek
Producer: Jamie Vernon
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Who would have believed that Rosanne Bar would look better than Madonna today?
Rosanne must have had the best plastic surgeon on the planet... she looks good.
Facts
Nailed it
Rosanne is happier.
Or Amy Mainzer for all I care (just to mention someone who is a professional and academic rather than an actress or singer).
It isn’t about her aging… that’s inevitable. It’s having procedures that have made her look inhuman. Age gracefully and love life.
Your telling a woman who was a sex symbol and known for her demeanor her entire life to age gracefully. She is a recipe for body dysmorphia.
She's trying to make a black body
I was going to say she looks like an alien creature, but you beat me to it in a way. I agree about aging gracefully, too.
The sad thing is that Madonna's face looked absolutely incredible until 2 or 3 years ago before she got all the fillers. She was aging quite gracefully, and then had that work done.
Yes. People that have plastic surgery wind up looking grotesque. Although she was always a homely girl, still better to stick with what nature gave you.
At 50 years of age my grandson asked why I colored my hair and why I wore makeup. His words, “grandma you are beautiful just as you are. You don’t need that stuff”. I took his advice and saved my money 😊 and I don’t regret my decision.
I'm 57 and I had my 2 youngest children when I was 36 and 38. I'm actually old enough to be considered their grandmother.🧑🦳They always tell me I look young for my age and I don't need to wear makeup.💃 How sweet of them. 😊
I couldn't get my hair cut or coloured during the pandemic, so I didn't. It looked pretty bad at first (I'm an older female, by the way), and I even hacked at it myself, but as it grew out I thought: *hmmmmmm.* In fact, I kept looking at it, as I could not quite believe what I was seeing. My dark-brownish dyed hair was turning, not grey, but - blonde. I am not kidding, for 30 years I frantically "covered the grey" and had highlights put in. As it turns out, my blonde-grey hair has natural highlights. I didn't go back to my old stylist, because I knew she would frantically return me to dyes and streaks - but I went to a new one who said, "Don't you DARE colour your hair!" She gave me a nice shoulder-length cut which is so easy to maintain I can hardly believe it. But it was there all the time, for decades, like pristine hardwood under a rotten old wall-to-wall carpet. Taught me a bit of a lesson about "beauty standards" and how stylists are basically trying to make money from you by making you unhappy with how you look.
God love that little boy, how precious was that? ❤😊
❤❤😊😊
less is best in any case, but good on you.
Older guys like Simon Cowell & Kenny Rogers went overboard with the plastic surgery too.
Burt Reynolds
But this is like it crawled out of pits of hell
@@JoeSchreier That's evidently where most plastic surgeons get their training.
Can't argue that I personally don't under plastic surgury in most situations. I understand burn victims or people in accidents but that's it.
@@JoeSchreier its called Hollywood and people being terrified to age. And those plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills are rolling in the money. They will do anything if they get paid. Its sad that the rich and famous think they look better when under the knife rather than natural aging.
As a 61 year old woman now , I look back at my pictures of my past, I now realize how beautiful I was. We never see our beauty living in our own skin. It's such a shame we don't see our own beauty. Stay off the chopping block, ladies, because we are all uniquely beautiful.
💯
Yes! Stay far away from plastic surgery, liposuction, botox - all of it! Just grow old gracefully. Drink plenty of water, sleep at least 6 hours a night, eat properly, walk and lift some weights. Be happy and feel joy for reaching an older age as not everyone makes it.
@@loriqua6134 Well said !!! Amen to that ...Merry Xmas everyone !! Best of wishes from Oz' X
@@wendycox9476 - Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. Best wishes from Colorado, USA! As we get older, we can get plastic surgery and look like the Joker or just age gracefully. Aging gracefully it is!
i am sure that those "photos" are actually REAL emulsion on film, shot from a real camera with a lens, that when teh photo was taken there was no editing, no filters, and every risk the heads were chopped off (lol...) when you finally got that package back from the developers...
and you still have them ;)
i have no memories of the last twenty years as its all digital and well... i basically stopped taking photos about a decade ago. the odd one, but nothing to really remember anything by. no special places, events, times, people. so, at forty... i basically have no photos of my life. a few childhood ones. its cool.
if its worth remembering then i remember it.
i just imagine all these kids of today, their photoshop, their AI editing software to "capture teh perfect moment", and what a retirement village will be like when its full of dementia patients with sagging implants and regrets about sex changes and wilful destruction of their one and only body... and not ONE GENUINE IMAGE to prove that reality ever happened... not one is representative of what actually happened, how things appeared. the extra tourists in that photo of landmarks? that is what makes the photo YOU TOOK your photo. its not just whats in the picture that counts. you look at it and you remember the place, the time, what happened earlier or later that day... how that garden and little bit of brick wall is still there, and how you used to play hide and seek behind it... or the landscape has changed beyond recognition, etc etc...
to edit a photo is tantamount to heresy in my opinion...
I said back in 2000 that she would NEVER accept getting older. By 2010 the way she dressed was disgusting....add another 13 years and its absolutely horrifying. Its OK to age...no one is looking at Madonna thinking "wow, she looks young", they are thinking "eww"
The worst part is I've seen people defend her looks, of course she is free to do that to herself, but it's also okay to make fun of how ridiculous she looks.
She looks like an old lady trying desperately to look younger and not succeeding.
You are all jealous because she is a rich and powerful woman who fights your hero TRUMP! She is beautiful and young!
80% Voldemort now
It's a blessing to age, it's not fun dying young wrinkle free
Madonna’s issue is she has everyone in her orbit saying Yes. Anyone that says no, gets fired. This is what she’s enabled herself into, essentially from nothing.
Madonna is awesome and sexy at 65. Go Madonna!
Narcissism at its absolute worst.
Michael Jackson syndrome.
@@TanyaKatherineSo, you seriously believe that the 2023 photo of her (which is anything but "awesome and sexy at 65" & 100% self-inflicted), within this brief summary of her past 40 years, looks good, do you?! th-cam.com/video/3OzBhIJZK-g/w-d-xo.html
@@TanyaKatherine Or how about this great YT video of her by Matt Walsh, a week ago?! She's wearing a skin-tight silver outfit in which she looks quite overweight, gyrating like a right nutter while holding onto a safety rail behind her, while wearing the kind of glasses that I thought only blind people wore - how can someone, anyone, refer to today's Madonna as "awesome and sexy"?!?! It's completely embarrassing & 100% cringeworthy!! th-cam.com/video/hFr7gYVEZOM/w-d-xo.html
She calls everyone ageist but she’s actually the ageist 😅
It’s so sad that she refuses to accept her age and just age gracefully.
Isnt it? Like shit, shes a gramma and parent and has so much to be proud of. It must be a form of mental illness.
She’s such a weirdo
Thing is, as Joe Rogan pointed out, she'd look better without all that crap. These "legendary" celebrities ruining their legacies through their own narcissism. I miss the celebs like Bogart, Sinatra, and the late great Irene Cara (RIP Nov 2022) who knew when to gracefully bow out.
Stop complaining
Has any normal person ever seen one of these plastic surgery monstrosities and thought "you look so young," instead of "what's wrong with your face?"
I saw Madonna react to people's opinions on her face-lift. Shes literally like their jealous! No Madonna we're not. Were trying to tell you the truth. We're all aging.
She's been detached from reality since 1983. No one is jealous of her.
She’s looks like the love child of Marylin Manson and Jigsaw. Who’s jealous of an elderly woman with bad plastic surgery and a dumpy keister? She’s the one jealous of youth.
That kind of denial can be a symptom of narcissism.
Except John Waite and Susanna Hoffs. I don’t think they got the aging memo.
Sounds like she's just trying cope and is denial about it. It's so sad that she did this to herself, she would have been fine without all of that plastic surgery. But she's also been way out of touch for decades now, it's sad but I don't think there's going back she's already in her 60's and set in her way of living. But I hope that someday she'll see that she doesn't need plastic surgery to look and feel better about herself.
It's gone from people saying when Madonna walked on stage, "Whoa! That's Madonna!" To "Whoa! Holy fuck! Is that Madonna?!"
facts brother😊
I will be 64 this year, and I am perfectly happy with how I look. I've been working out for over 40 years and I prefer to eat actual real food and not proccessed fast food rubbish. I've never had the desire for surgery or botox. Getting old is a privallage that many don't get to do
And you're still getting involved in such topics 😂😂 as a 64 year old, weird
So glad I am an old lady who hikes and does yoga and enjoys aging. So much freedom and contentment. Young people have so much pressure on them - social media is ubiquitous and toxic.
It’s now in our everyday reality too making it impossible to not be swept into it
i have to laugh at younger women getting their lips quacked and eyebrows painted on the forehead . Add on the big fluffy eye lashes and 1" fingernails , hilarious !
Good on you for having an empathetic and understanding outlook.
Just do your best. Don't force it. There is so much that can be done to look good at almost any age.
Yes! I love being old! I have time and freedom to do the things I care about and I still dance, work out and do yoga. Keep moving, people!
Madonna could star in her own Hellraiser franchise
Lol...is that pinhead singing like a virgin?!
omg you won with that comment high five dh12
The creature from Pan's Labyrinth.
I personally don't think Madonna was ever gorgeous. I think she's average.
I believe she's 65 years old. As a female, she's either wearing a diaper , or she's wearing a fake ass, or she's wearing a bandaid support after after having filler or butt implants put in. It's possible she may have bought implants that come with the pants. Usually, as people age, their bladders can't hold as much ,especially if she's given birth to children. No amount of money can fix that. Personally if women got attention for looking good at their age ,she could age gracefully. It's sad because she's trying to keep up with the PLASTIQUES, the kardashians who have nothing real left. They look disgusting, all of them.
My mother is going to be 67 thus year. Never wore makeup, fillers or anything and she looks absolutely fabulous and even doctors are shocked at her age. I hope I carry those great genes
My grandmother too she has 84 but she looks around 60
I believe its about minerals and supplements instead of inherited genes and its also about the tongue posture from childhood. Children who weren't breastfed usually have bad tongue posture and their skull and teeth do not develop properly. Their faces become disharmonious. It happens also to our bodies when we don't have enough vitamins while growing up. More vitamins and minerals, greater height and more balanced features we get. That is why many old people look fantastic when they are older.
I am a 63 y/o man and when I was young I never wanted to grow old, but here I am. I cant deny it because I have the aches and pains of every day life, and have decided to embrace it and hope that people will pick my brain for my years of wisdom. Unfortunately the younger generation doesn't get it . i am glad that I did and always gave older people the time of day. Experience is the best teacher.. None escapes this unless you die young, and at that point your existence is a waist.
Not to be pedantic and I liked what you said but waist ≠ waste
@@puggirl415 you are right thanks for pointing that out..😊
Totally body dysmorphic syndrome! There is so many women that have this problem. I worked for a plastic surgeon that refused to do surgery on people that had ZERO REASON to go under the knife. It was all a mental issue. He would say”I will not operate on you…but I am totally sure that another Dr. will do whatever you ask of them.. but, I am not the guy that will. I respected him and his professional principles. Too bad he was the exception to the rule.😊
@digzat Sure, but that is such a subjective thing…to judge and determine what constitutes a need to look different. But I too am horrified at the way our society puts so much value on a woman’s looks. To me it requires shining from the inside, a true sense of self, morality and love, before anyone can truly be beautiful. And the inner easily overshadows the exterior every time.
@@TheNaturalust I 💯 agree with you about the fact that beauty comes from within and loving yourself first. We all have insecurities and things we would like to change, but if you are confident in your own self worth, then you definitely let yourself shine😊
then we have surgeons that will sterilize and mutilate someone's genitals for their body dysmorphia.... its funny, we used to treat dysmorphia, not accommodate it.
Would that other surgeons were so ethical . When medical surgery is founded on profit it seems to attract so many unethical Frankenstein who will do anything to anyone if they’re paid enough cash . What happened to the ethics of medicine , the Hypocratic oath to “:Do no harm” that all Doctors had to take when they began to,practice as Doctors ? It’s incredible to me that we condone and even encourage the mutilation of people for money . Isn’t there a duty of care to,protect people from their delusions ?
@@saudade369 there should be accountability in the medical field and I have been a nurse for close to 30 years now. The amount of Physicians that really don’t give a damn are astronomical now. It’s all about the money. That oath they took seems to be null and void nowadays. I have seen a trend that isn’t good and the Docs that take that oath to heart are dying off quickly. Very sad
Madonna slaughtered her face with plastic surgery, and she wasn't even ugly before that.
She was a 4 before. -10 now.
I know. Too many people in her ears
Yes. Yes she was. 🤢
She wasnt that hot either. Joe is full of shit like always.
She was ugly only on the inside, now also on the outside
I'm working while I listen to this and every time he says that Madonna looks like a monster I almost lose my shit in the office!
Talking about losing your shit commenting on a video about a diaper 😆 I spilled my tea
😂
I don’t see a diaper lol
@@KoalaBeer. we don't see it on Biden either but it is known....and very probable.
@@Dilley_G45 🫣
Thank you for keeping this discussion real AND respectful at the same time.
It was far from respectful
Madonna with a diaper? Well, that Depends.😂😂😂😂
“Plastic surgeon,hey! Fill in’ my lips for the third time!”
🤣😂🤣
Yep😂😂😂
Ha ha ha. Lol
Lol 😁🤣
I started my teaching career 1984 when Madonna, Prince, and Michael Jackson were all in their primes. The three of them, Weird Al Yankovich, and I are/were the same age. It’s been interesting to watch how two of us survived to 65 as relatively normal.
Funny how the guy who professionally called himself "Weird" was actually the most normal one of all 😂
@@TyneeBubbles Because Al Yankovich is not a celebrity. Celebrities are slaves of Hollywood maffia.
@@TyneeBubbles...which is a testament to not taking oneself too seriously.
He's the only one out of the bunch who didn't consider himself precious.
Carrot Top
@_Solaris Exactly! The ability to laugh at one's self often gets lost in ego; certainly so for Madonna, imo 😒
Lucky for us, Al never let ego be in charge 😊
Funny that Madonna now looks like a Wal-Mart shopper, from kentucy.
Kardashians have the same thing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I really agree. She has done so much damage to her face now, there is no turning back. She was a female icon, she could have grown old gracefully, and helped millions of other women feel ok about growing old. Instead she chose to do this to herself, insinuating that growing old is a bad thing... Very very sad
People with mental health issues and body dysmorphia don't just "choose" to go one way or another. It is not as simple as that. As a guy I do know that women deal mentally with aging completely differently from a man. That's a fact. You damn well know a lot of men will always choose younger women because they find that more valuable then a old graceful woman. Men don't deal with that. Men get distinguished as they get older.
@@ch-yq5ynyou are so right. Ive discovered I have body Dysmorphia. Its a very strange disorder. And men only want young women, like you said.
🎯
She wants a black woman's body.
Look at Michael Jackson nothing wrong to no nose. Sad!
“Age gracefully…” when the hell has Madonna ever done _anything_ gracefully?
🎯 like a 🦊
‘Live to Tell’ was graceful.
She posed nude in her book, and those pics were pretty graceful.
When she sucked off the bottle in Truth or Dare.
@@Brainbusteras graceful as the nuts that where launched into toilet paper
It doesn't look like she's wearing a diaper, it looks like she FILLED her diaper, LMAO
Madonna is beautiful! I stand for Madonna! Fill that diaper, girl! 💃🏼
😂😂
"What is that?" 😂
I have friends that did botox in their late 20'a, early 30's, it was so unnatural, they didn't stop, now in their 50's they look terrible, like overdone. My mom used to say there was nothing more sad than a woman who won't age gracefully. I'm in my mid 50's & never had a thing done, but I got good genes. Madonna looked like a demon at the grammy's.
Thank you! But do you know what is the problem? It's young females that are wanting to look older and it's older women that are trying to look youthful. Then we have females in each age groups competing with each other all for attention. And the reason why this is happening is that females are being told through the media that the only thing that a female offers is her looks.
She made a deal with the 👹
Botox relaxes muscles. What makes her look terrible is overdone fillers. She should get actual surgery for vertical lift to look natural.
@@disguiseddv8ant486 Media is not telling anyone anything. W were ALWAYS like this. Media is just showing it. I had W I thought were my friends "stealing" guys I was interest some 32 y ago. One of them asked me if I thought "a guy that looks like him would date someone that looks like you?".
It is just convenient to accuse society or patriarchy for W pettiness.
I mean, I definitely take good care of my hair and use tretinoin and NEVER skip sunscreen so…I DO care. There’s things you can do to help the aging process without getting nuts. Plastic surgery done well is even okay (think Dolly Parton) but these people that get obsessed with it and stop listening to reason…it’s definitely some type of mental illness.
Madonna makes grown men cry- and not like she used to 😂
Madonna is doing her 'Depends Tour.'
😂 that's messed up..
"Im ready for my close up Mr DeMills"
Madonna's new look literally scares my kids. When I show them her face they start getting scared like looking at a monster or something.
So what? Id still do her
Don't do that to your poor kids, have a heart! 😅🤣😂
I feel like there's some sort of metaphor there.
She looks like the doll from Saw 😐 doesn't look human anymore.
She look like a Marilyn Manson costume.
Why is everyone picking face #4 at the plastic surgeon. Mickey Rourke, Axl Rose, Madonna. All the same face. Weird…
Mickey had to boxing had really messed up his face
#4 = all of the above...
@@dougkleen9917I think he used that as an excuse
😂😂😂
All ugggggg😂😂😂
You could also correlate the damaging side effects of steroids with the botched plastic surgery outcomes.
Yes Rosanne Bar does look good!
:55 where he says they look like old women trying to look young is so spot on
Bill Burr has a bit that's something like - You can be 50 and just look 50 ... or you can be 50 and look like a 28 year old lizard 🤘
@@7star7storm7 Lmfao
"Like a plastic surgeon, cuttin' for the very first time!" 😂
🎶"I barely made it through Med School 🎵
Somehow I made it through..." 🎶
@@JasonSmith-jr7jh she said to the plastic surgeon “ why is this so expensive?” The surgeon said “ coz I’m a material guy “ 😮
😂
😆😁😅
🎶" I was last
in my class 🎵
Barely passed
at the Institute" 🎶
"Now I'm trying to avoid,
yeah I'm trying to avoid
a malpractice suit!" 🎵
🎶"Like a surgeon, Hey,
Cuttin' for the very first time..." 🎵
Madonna is the epitome of "quit while your ahead"
Madonna looked pretty good in the music video of "Live to Tell". But that's 38 years ago...
The idea that Madonna is only now becoming delusional is funny. She has been out of her mind for her entire career.
If someone would have told me 20 years ago that John Goodman would look better than Madonna in the future I’d laughed in they face. But by God, it happened lol
Hell, Roseanne Barr looks better than Madonna now.
@@MacFinn-wp2vn No need to get crazy now.
@@Lenny_Hondo That's not crazy, it's the truth.
@@Lenny_Hondo go take a look at what roseanne looks like now and come back here
@@FlirriRosanne looks fine for a grandma. Considering she was a fat troll in the 90's
the fact that someone who looks like Joe Rogan is commenting on people’s looks 🤭 the pot calling the kettle ugly
What about the responsibility of the surgeons? Shouldn't they be held accountable? Just say NO.
OMG...I literally laughed out loud. It does look like a filled diaper!
I went to get microneedling treatment ( which is not considered surgery) the nurse told me I’m a perfect candidate for filler. I was 39 at the time. I never came back to that clinic. People need to remember they’re all business and they want your money. They will never care about what you look like. DON’T DO IT !!
Amazing that this is actually a topic of conversation.
Madonnas solution to not looking like an old person , is to not look like a person.
It's always sad when people destroy their legacy by refusing to age with dignity. They become a parody of their former selves and that's 99% of Hollywood, not just Madonna. She's just part of the unfortunate ones who've gotten horrible results with surgery. Also, the bigger problem is that her entire public persona was always based on being extremely sexual and controversial and now that she's a senior citizen it's not a good look for her.
^^ This!
This is what happens when you base your entire self worth (and judge the worthiness of others) entirely on physical appearance. As these types of people age, the ugliness that has lived inside of them all their lives, cannot be hidden any longer and manifests on their physical self.
@@RhiannonRaven SPOT ON Miss 👍
Meanwhile I forgot about Madonna and ppl r still talking about her appearance... 🙄🌠
She could've rocked being a senior sex symbol, especially with how fit she's always kept herself. But clearly she has body dysmorphia and really terrible ppl surrounding her. I agree with what dude said about how ageing the fillers and buccal fat removal and whatnot is as well. The K Klones all look like older middle aged women with tons of surgery. The younger ones started f'ing themselves up as underage teens.
How quick Joe dismisses body dysmorphia when roids and muscles were brought up is hilarious
Yes, but it's so true. Lovely muscely men look ridiculous.
Exactly lol. It's almost the exact same thing. Men take steroids because they feel not enough of a man and woman do these cosmetic procedures because they feel not enough of a woman. 2 sides of the same coin hilarious that Joe is in denial about that
Men on roids look nasty!
Haha he hit the “yeah, but its different when I do it” so hard
Depends if you’re talking like Ronnie Coleman type and all that Mr Olympia yeah that’s disgusting they look like buff turds but to get jacked to a good looking physique that’s fine
Men who are a little jacked but one can go overboard.
The people that say age gracefully are the same who critize women for looking old lol
“ gotta have the quarter horse legs that go with it”… well said 😂
😂
Has any normal person ever seen one of these plastic surgery monstrosities and thought "you look so young," instead of "what's wrong with your face?"
I'm a 69 year old woman. I have some wrinkles and droop, but I work out, am at a reasonable weight, healthy and active. I try to enjoy my life and do unto others as I'd like to receive. I'm friendly, like to hear other people's thoughts and don't even consider my age most days. As a result, I don't experience ageism from other people and we have great interactions. Too many folks get caught up on their appearance and neglect the inner person they are presenting to others. As far as plastic surgery, I've seen too many people that look artificial. Their faces don't work quite right or are immobile because they've used too much Botox. Kind of scary to me!
Lmfao diaper
Madonna's whole social circle, management, publisher, record label, photographers, friends and associates (etc) - pretty much everyone she interacts with, will be constantly telling her she looks amazing, constantly massaging her ego, constantly feigning gasps of delight at her new look, or new outfit or new hairstyle, or how the lip filler is amazing or how her new single, video, tour, perfume (etc etc) is stunning . . . and she would have been treated like this since the 1980s, for 4 decades she's likely been treated like something approaching a god by 99% of people she interacts with, and that can really screw with a person.
@davelordy
The only people that can be "screwed with" are the Weak minded.
I don't think anyone had guts to tell her the truth because they would have been likely unemployed.
like a child never being told no.....I imagine we would have a heightened sense of our own self worth.
wouldnt her kids tell her the truth though?
@@pat-paterson 'Mum yo fan club's called 'Madonna's Globe'. Mum it can't be practically demonstrated'😂?
I went to a plastic surgeon to consult about my nose, which was broken when I was younger. It was just a consult, he started listing off all kinds of other stuff and procedures… I didn’t walk; I ran out of that office and I’m glad I did!
My nose may be big but at least I can recognize myself when I walk past the mirror 🪞 😂
Wisdom!
omg the same exact thing happened to me. He really overplayed his card and I realized how insane he was .
With some Snap On tools and rubbing alcohol Ill fix your nose and nothing else!!
I had to have one done and my dr, before we even started gave a schpill that if you are here for a Barbie nose or a nose that doesn’t fit your face, you are at the wrong dr. Then he went through ways to fix the things that I didn’t like all while keeping the characteristics that make me. He was a great dr!!!
@@Peepandbridgette87 that’s great! I mainly wanted to talk about my sinus issues but it turned into a conversation about how he could “thin the bridge and take a bit off the tip” and how if he did it all at once, my insurance would cover it. Then he started talking about my wrinkles, etc- I was around 35 or so then. Add on peels, serum, dermabrasion, Botox and fillers…
On an RNs salary 🤣🤣🤣
I agree. I was saying the same exact thing 2 months ago Shane
Dolly Parton is older and looks so much better.
I am 69 and in my life I have gone from 'not caring about Madonna' to 'admiring Madonna', to 'pitying Madonna'. I liked her music, tolerated her movies, and was shocked by her 'Book'..... but I truly admired her business sense. No one made a penny off Madonna until she had banked a dime! But she has chosen a poor way to round out her career. I know my opinion does not mean poop, but I am sorry to see such an intelligent woman lose herself over such a petty thing as aging and appearences. I guess no one is immune to personal weakness.
I feel the same way!
I’m 65 and loved Madonna. We are the same age. I feel bad about her choices. She was perfect and would have aged well naturally.
Never liked her. She's disgusting.
I went from ..'oh Madonna is dance music, to "WHAT A GODDAMN FREAKSHOW" ' in the space of 30 years. She is everything that is wrong with the modern woman.....i.e. laughably stupid and vacuous, too much makeup, too much ego, and a false sense of her value within society. She's done like dinner, only people will actually come for dinner.
Well said
It is sad to see Madonna like that..I am a.52 yr old woman and I embrace my maturity probably because I know so many people that hadn't even lived til their 40's 😢
True
You are not vilified like madonna is. she was "ageing gracefully" in her 30s and 40s, even up to her 50s. then, reviewers started focusing on her "ageing hands" instead of her concerts. she got ridiculed for showing wrinkles. even now, on this current tour, she looks back like herself, and so many comments are giving her shit for it "she looks old!". she doesnt look "weird" anymore, but she looks "older"! how dare she! she should not perform!!! it's terrible.. and these videos aren't helping. Im not saying this to you personally, but so many give her shit and ENJOY it. so many people are truly horrible. I could never mock someone like that for the way they look. it's so weird and messed up. there's so many jerks out there!
AIN'T BODY DYSMORPHIA SAME AS GENDER DYSMORPHIA SAME SO WHY DONT INSURANCE PAY FOR THOSE THINGS
That's a very good way to look at it while also showing gratitude for each day we get
Yeah I'm 48 and I know I look older, but I feel better than I ever have honestly.
Didn't know that about Jackson, very interesting episode.
Why does this even matter. People get old and can’t hold it together. This is dumb.
Twenty years ago I figure skated, weight trained and took spin classes. As a result I got massive glutes, quads and hamstrings. Yes, Madonna’s look is glaringly unnatural.
AIN'T BODY DYSMORPHIA SAME AS GENDER DYSMORPHIA SAME SO WHY DONT INSURANCE PAY FOR THOSE THINGS
because health ins is for disease health.. not aesthetics..@meprous1377
I wanna see
Interesting that there are so many dudes out there that like muscular women. II'll keep my soft little snuggle bug 😘
@@meprous1377 Gender dysmorphia is body dysmorphia, doctors just decided to change the name so they could make money out of it.
“By the same token, why would a guy want to gain a bunch of muscle and take steroids.” Great question.
Because evidently we "men want that"... 🤣
The difference tho is steroids make you look unattainably good and set a bad precedent for younger generation’s while i have never seen injections look good
@@DERPSWAG35 i think guys on steroids with tons of muscles look very unattractive...at least to me. Never understood why guys think it's good looking.
@@DERPSWAG35ive never heard any of my female friends saying that they like guys with tons of muscles clearly on steroids lol it's just so unattractive and men seem to don't understand that and think that women will throw themselves at them once they become ripped
@@Vivi-vg9lx So do I, not attractive at all. Definitely body dysmorphia, not happy with the way they look.
It is sad. 😞 I've always said the same thing. They end up looking older when they get all the plastic surgeries and fillers.
I'm 42 and just got carded today when buying wine. The ladies thought I was 29 and I said, yes I will take it ! But nope I'm 42. She said no way , I said yup I swear I'm not lying. ❤ I see wrinkles when I smile but they don't see it. One day they will but I still think that I will look cute.
I absolutely love Crows feet and wrinkles on a person. Even beautiful silvers, Grey's and white hair! These are our birthright. Wrinkles show how much a person laughs, the years they've earned them stripes for. There is NOTHING WRONG with aging!
Joe’s comment that men look good - as a rule- when they’re artificially jacked proves the entire point. Lots of women think men like that look alien and weird and do not find it attractive at all. Even when it’s “natural” it seems to indicate an obsession that isn’t appealing when having a family. Totally a fair comparison to the overzealous plastic surgery fan who goes overboard and looks bad. Apples to apples in my mind.
I agree. Big jacked guys are not my cuppa tea. Often, too, their bodies are unbalanced, because they concentrate on one area and blow it up out of proportion to the rest of their body.
Exactly!
There's nothing sexier than a guy who's gained muscles through purposeful hard work.
This. Thank you.
Weird to listen to guys tear down women who feel compelled to keep up with impossible beauty standards, all the things these men that are making content out of discussing it, dont see the hypocrisy that they’re the ones helping create it while at the same time thinking the way they go about it is healthy and fine.
It’s all image and dysmorphia if you feel you are not good enough naturally, and need to exaggerate your looks to such a degree that it becomes an obsession. Gym, Botox, steroids, plastic surgery all of it.
“It’s fine how I do it, but how they do it- yuck “
There’s nothing sexy about a six pack or huge rock hard muscles with veins popping out everywhere. That does not look great to me at all, quite the opposite. I prefer guys with a dad bod, much more attractive, much more fun.
That’s hilarious! The guest was totally right and talking about body dysmorphia in terms of men taking steroids to get all jacked up Having some equivalency to women doing certain plastic surgery or Botox to look better. They have very similar parallels for sure. And Joe was like oh I wouldn’t go that far. Lol.
That's because Steroid use causes a man to have a tiny dccc
Exactly. Joes head is completely deformed from TRT😂
Exactly 😂
And if Joe only realized that the 2 “women” he mentioned are actually men!! I do not want to look like Jennifer Lopez!!! Most Victoria Secret Models ARE ALL MEN!!! You guys need to do your research!!
that's what i was thinking too.. being incredibly chemically jacked with insane peak physical strength doesn't negate looking like a monster with the veins and the neck and the... well you know what i mean.
I remember as a 16 year old boy watching her at Live Aid in 1985, that’s the Madonna superstar
I don’t follow celebrities, I haven’t watched TV in over 6yrs and I’m so glad listen to my radio and podcasts 🤷♀️🥰
I'm glad he's self-aware enough to make the comparison with the bodybuilders and body dysmorphia.
Not Rogan, but his guest did! Kudos to him
Yes.
Wow, this is the first time I've heard anybody (well-known) speak the truth about how Madonna looks (and the delusion that likely goes with it). Many so-called plastic surgeons on YT clickbait like they're gonna call her out ...and then they still try to say she looks good, or even great. She looks like a monster and her behavior is bizarre. Seems to be affecting her children, particularly her daughters, too. VERY SAD outcome.
Plastic surgeons are of course going to sell people on it looking good. They don't want to scare off potential customers.
Just like how he criticized the Rock for years then not say a peep to his face?
What’s wrong with Madonna’s daughters?
@@laurenurban3942there out of control always were thr twins. They can't sit still or relax there face always fidgeting loud and dressing up like little hookers with loads of sneared heavy make up and so young and posing suggestive y
There a handful I'd go nuts I'd ask for my money back really there's something wrong with them
That’s the least of her problems......She is Bat Shit Crazy with Terminal TDS.
Pillow face ! 😂😂
Dudes sit down somewhere. She's still got it.
The fact that she didn't consult with the Kardashian plastic surgeon is mind-boggling. Priscilla Presley had enough money to find the best surgeon in the world, yet she ruined her face with silicone implants and injections that distorted her face. Permanent damage. How frightening.
I saw a hilarious video featuring an aging male plastic surgeon. The funny part was his own face was "over-processed," and he looked like a clown. It was a segment from one of the evening "lifestyle videos."
The "Kenny Rogers" effect.
They most likely have BDD.
And she was gorgeous
Sam Losco syndrome
"There is nothing wrong with being 54. Honestly people, would you rather be 54 and look 54 or be 54 and look like a 26 year old lizard?"- Bill Burr.
Bill Burr🤣
Personally, I wouldn't mind looking 26 in my 50s lol
who is 54? Madonna is 65.
@@Dawna-gp1zk The joke clearly went over your head. It was directed at people in general that had plastic surgery not just Madonna.
@@mblazin1532 rude
Sorry Joe, but there’s a few women like myself who really don’t like the steroid jacked man. I don’t know if we are a majority, but we prefer a slim (maybe not skinny), natural looking man, to a super buffed, veins showing, fitness obsessed dude. Reasonably fit is ideal.
Which I currently am not, so I need to start working out !
As a woman, I’d rather improve my muscles than get rounder or fluffier
Rogan ignoring the male dysmorphia topic and going straight to muh super hero look
Probably because he suffers from it. He’s probably taken steroids himself. But it was irresponsible for him not to mention the danger of taking steroids. Also, some women have taken steroids. He’s sexist at times.
Joe has a point though. Steroids, in and of themselves do not make a man muscular. A man still has to put in a lot of work. The steroids are just an enhancement. Injecting steroids into yourself versus slicing and hacking and filling your body full of fake shit, those are two completely different worlds.
Madonna has lost the plot.. 🤣🤮
She never had the plot. She sold out a long time ago
elaborate ...
She was sporting a mustache and unibrow in the 80s playboy pics😂😂
Ah, Italian girls, lol.
It's not about aging. It's about vanity and the wealth that beauty brings
I always thought Kim Kardashian looks like she’s wearing a filled diaper.
100% agree ,, never understood the attraction over a big blubbery butt on a somewhat normal size frame .
I was at CBGB's because Bowie said "The Talking Heads" were a band he liked. Madonna went on first with a boom box and sang Lucky Star. We were blown away. She was original. And we were in the crucible. Solid memory. Lightning in a bottle.
Very cool story. I really like Madonna when she does fun dance music. Everything else, pass.
@@docsamson198 Later that night we were down on the subway platform where the accoustics are solid and we were all singing "Psycho Killer, Kis-ka-se"; as loud as we could (the aye aye yie yie is great in the tunnels) ; and then a brief moment of silence; and I knew...we were all taken back when she grooved across the stage and sang "shine your heavenly body." So we were all doing that too on the subway platform. That night, all we knew was she might be from Queens LI NY and was a Lucky Star.
i just can’t understand why ‘stars’ - who have $$$$ and no longer need to work - don’t retire gracefully and before they become sad and ridiculous. Do something useful like charity work!
@hpinchen9451, ......they need the adulation.....it's insecurity, which is almost certainly behind her cosmetic surgery. Balanced people just accept getting older......
@@hpinchen9451 and once they've reached any level of wealth it always becomes normalized and they don't feel wealthy any more. Cant live in excess once excess isn't excess anymore.
''has a diaper'' that's just mean.
"Like a granny, wearing diapers for the very first time"
A lot of woman don’t like that jacked look. When you look at fit men from indigenous cultures, they don’t look overly bulked up. I think that jacked look is a good comparison to the filler and fake boobs.
Too right, I'm no fan of it. Toned is nice, but I don't really like the Jason Momoa look. Sort of like, if the dude had a heart attack whilst he was on top of me, I'd be killed for sure. 🤣 Swimmers often have nice bodies. But basically I love nerds. Give me David Byrne any day.
Me too. Totally.
Yeah that jacked look is ugly, frightening, too big. Not my type EVER
@@medwayhospitalprotestMomoa is naturally very big ,he can't help it ,it's his build 😂❤
It attracts more gay men than straight women. All the serious bodybuilders I've ever known have been gay. It's something to do with the male body being an object of worship.
She got the same diapers as Kim Kardashian.
I was patting a strangers dog in the street one day and the owner was in her 60's. She was just simply stunning, very little make up. She opened up to me and she had done it hard but it didnt show. She was a really sweet and serene lady. Wish I had got her number.
I'm grateful that people recognize me still at 67 without having plastic surgery in my face. Aging naturally and barely wear makeup, lips and mascara at best. ❤
im the same and tbh i cant be bothered with make up nowadays at 67 weight is my main problem its so hard to shift but i live in hope lol
I’m 73 and would never think of doing plastic surgery or injections. I prefer to age gracefully. There’s too much emphasis on physical appearance. Accept the way you are.
Well, I’m 75, and not intending any cosmetic procedures, but have no intention of ageing gracefully either. I have earned the right to be disgraceful.
@@janmeyer3129 I love that statement. OK if I use it?
To each his/her own, but I feel the same way. I'm now 71, although people always think I'm 10 years younger. Even my doctor calls me a "young senior." I'm thankful to arise each day and go about my ADLs. My firstborn seemingly healthy son suddenly died at 19.
Aging and losing youthful beauty is terrifying and sometimes feels sad. However, it sure beats the alternative.
I can't think of anything sadder than an older person (or ANY person) staring at the mirror and obsessing and picking out flaws. I think these people should go outside once in a while, maybe cultivate some hobbies. The truth is, NO ONE CARES if you look younger, older, whatever - most of them are at home staring at the mirror and obsessing and picking out flaws.
Im almost 58, but most people think im in my early 40’s. Luckely its due to my genes, as my mum is the same. Ive never, not will i ever have plastic surgery, i would rather grow old gracefully..
"All rock-and-rollers over the age of 50 look stupid and should retire."
- Grace Slick
Not all women want to look like Jennifer Lopez. Some of us are very happy with who we are.
JLO is not a model for women’s beauty
And many men don't necessarily like the jlo shape
As it should be
JLO is just average!
@@RasKalevthesouljournershe’s a MTF… starting to show a lot now that she’s aging
When he said something like.. “ I don’t even know how she could focus on the performance wearing a diaper. I died
Oops, I crapt my pants!!! 😂😂
😂 a full diaper at that 😂
She's just an incontinent menopausal woman who needs her? Depends.
Yea, she's not wearing a diaper tho. It's the camera angle. Joe Rogan is a Leo. Madonna is a Leo. Nothing like watching a queen on the rag trying to tear down a woman🤣
rip 😢
MADONNA IS AWARE OF HER AGE, it is envious that she continues with her career.
What's really sad is that Madonna should be able to chill and enjoy life but she's probably pressured every day to keep making that money for everyone else involved in her career.
Joe gets so defensive when anyone brings up steroids.
Or height.. dude is a midget
And bald
He's on them
You are right and steroids kill men who use them. Joe obviously takes special engineered hormonal drugs, imo. He is addicted to sculpting his body with big muscles but it’s way too much for his small frame! He will not age well, mark my words.
It's a ego thing!