how is Shao Kahn not on this list? In his debut, he was an absolutely iconic final boss battle. In game, he was a better schemer and more manipulative than Shang Tsung, possessed powerful magic and strength after consuming 1000s of souls, and ruled over a massive empire. Eventually he'd go on to even defeat blaze and Onaga, proving himself the most powerful warrior in the series. Only chosen one Liu Kang and elder god empowered Raiden could defeat him, otherwise every time he entered the game it was always a moment where you felt dread and wondered how they'd possibly defeat this guy. Flash forward to MK11 and he is basically a weak thug who can't seem to do anything right without Sindel. He even loses in 1v1 combat to Kitana, who in the old games straight up was incapable of defeating him. Then they reconned all his scheming so that it was basically Sindel's idea. guy went from a 10 strength 10 intelligence mega threat to a 5 strength 2 intelligence dumb henchman, ruining the most iconic villain of the franchise in favor of Shang Tsung, who was originally just his puppet (don't get me wrong, Shang Tsung final villain was fantastic, but it should have taken a hell of a scheme to topple Shoa Kahn instead of what we got)
Modern Shao Kahn is a shadow of his former self because the writers don't seem to understand the character. He's not just a big beefy guy that hits you with a hammer, he's a brilliant strategist and mastermind. Resurrecting Sindel was HIS plan, merging the realms was HIS plan, he betrayed Onaga purely through out thinking him, not because he won a fist fight.
Atlas/Frank Fontaine from Bioshock. He was an amazing villain throughout the game. Then you fight him at the end in which it was very boring and uninspiring for a villain that manipulated you throughout the game
Derek Simmons was never a compelling villain, and certainly didn't infect himself. The whole game comes about essentially because he simps hard for Ada, who rejects him, so he uses the virus to turn Carla Radames (another scientist who had a crush on simmons) physically into Ada. Radames, pissed off at having been messed with, infects simmons (through a nameless grunt).
It could have been better if Vaas came back at the end of the game and there was an all out battle between Vaas’ pirates and Hoyts mercs while Jason tries to rescue Riley in the middle of it all.
Well at least Firefly got a decent boss fight in Origins. Plus a okay series of chases in Knight. He's a side villain but there's nothing wrong with that.
I know he's not iconic,but Remor from Fran Bow was pretty intimidating and unsettling,at least until the developer released a cute little plushie of him,and now I can't take him seriously.
Derek Simmons from Resident Evil 6 did not infect himself, his assistant that fell in love with him that he decided to turn into Ada Wong's doppelganger was the one who infected Derek Simmons using one of the ganados.
I'm gonna say Sephiroth gets my vote for this kind of list. His debut in the OG FF7 painted him as a mysterious, elusive, boogieman type threat. You heard whispers of him and his accomplishments, but he is supposed to be dead, so what even are you dealing with? Getting those answers as you play the game was nothing short of an epiphany of what video game stories could be. Now?... Sephy's just an attention-seeking, Cloud-obsessed, pretentious doof. OG Sephiroth didn't know or care who Cloud is. The plot twist of the game went out of its way to show that Cloud was just some nobody, but now, he and Sephiroth are star-crossed rivals whose battle will determine the fate of the multiverse... Gag.
Because the new games aren't a remake, they're a sequel in the form of redoing the events of the original and changing events. That's why Sephiroth and Aerith have memories from the original. If you knew the person that killed you and ended your mission and you had the chance to do it all over while retaining memories of what happened, are you seriously saying you wouldn't pay a bit more attention to the person that ultimately stopped you? Because if you don't, you're essentially doing the same exact thing over again, which is literally insane.
@@SpaghettiYOLOKingTTV Yeah, I get that. That's also one of my beefs with FF7R; it being a sequel rather than a remake. It takes the original's theme of loss and how it affects our identities, and turns into a boring "define your own fate" story. Also, all the appearances in Kingdom Hearts pull the same thing. It's almost like Nomura didn't understand Cloud and Sephiroth's dynamic in FF7. All that said, I still feel that all this supplementary material ruined Sephiroth as a villain. He's more annoying now, in my opinion.
It's made pretty clear a big part of Sephiroth's motivation in the original game is screwing with Cloud because he killed him in the backstory. That's why Sephiroth spends the first half of the game screwing with Cloud's head. Of course, the second half he just does nothing just like Kefka but...
@@immortalfrieza I don't agree with that, simply for the reason that it isn't Sephiroth who even brings up that Cloud killed him (in the OG FF7, that is). He messed with Cloud to manipulate him into getting the black materia. That's all Cloud was to Sephy; a useful puppet. Once he got what he wanted, he left Cloud and co. alone until they came crashing through his front door in the final dungeon. That only added to Sephiroth's appeal as the villain, in my opinion. He doesn't care because he thinks he's above all that nonsense. The subsequent material just makes him out to be more of a clown than Kefka. He's no longer a boogeyman; he's constantly in your face, goading you into killing fate, and absolutely destroying the theme of the original. After all, who cares about loss when you can just time travel and kill the arbiters of fate to bring people back from the dead?
@@tdblackboxx6866 "I don't agree with that, simply for the reason that it isn't Sephiroth who even brings up that Cloud killed him" Sephiroth doesn't bring it up because it would undermine the mind games he's playing with Cloud, as shown by when Cloud actually finds out what happened his misery and delusion ends. Sephiroth is taking advantage of Cloud's delusion to screw with him due to Sephiroth's resentment over Cloud killing him. Sephiroth could easily have gotten the Black Materia and completed his plans at any time in the game, but he manipulates Cloud into doing it for him because he's screwing with Cloud for the sake of revenge. In fact, at one point Sephiroth even has the Black Materia on hand and could've gone straight to the Northern Crater to give it to his real self. Instead he plays a convoluted game where he kills Aerith and gives the Black Materia to Cloud so he... could then have Cloud give it to him at the Norther Crater. He leaves Cloud and Co alone after he gets the Black Materia because he's just waiting for his plan to be completed. In Sephiroth's mind he already won and all he has to do is wait around for a few days. It isn't until Cloud and Co show up at the Northern Crater that he bothers to do anything because there's no reason to.
For me, Tiny wasn't the worst casualty of that era of Crash. Crunch was. See, Tiny had like two appearances in the Titan games and that was it, his remake was dead and gone. But Crunch? They've kept him a furry Mr T since then, even though Wrath Of Cortex Crunch had some brain, a vengeful desire and not just mindless anger, and a gravelly voice not a "URGH! PITY THE FOOL! URGH!" one. Crunch could've been a great character, maybe even a playable one to add variety given he's heavier but stronger than Crash or Coco (imagine a Crash game were you could swap between the three on the fly, mid-level, to access different paths or secrets). But in Twinsanity he was reduced in size and given no speaking roles, and afterwards he was just ruined. As I say, Tiny at least broke free of his cursed remake.
Vaas was actually a victim of late success. He was intended to just be a generic thug type, but fans fell in love with his depiction AFTER the game was already completed and was being marketed, so he was stuck as the best villian who never could so to speak.
I doubt it, he isn't treated as a "generic thug type" through the game AT ALL. Maybe they didn't expect this level of success, but it's obvious that he was meant to be special and memorable.
Ummm the literal fact that the game only advertised him and then bamboozled you with another boss completely invalidates your point. He was the only villain mentioned. All over the ads. Amazing and spectacular as a villain. Then the game releases and he's just gone halfway through? Claiming it was fans fault is like claiming cyberpunk was the fault of cd projekt red. Fans fault for cyberpunk because they were literally harassing CDPR for cyberpunk before it was finished. Ubisoft said hey heres your bad guy and made him awesome then took him away from us. Your point is moot. Not on the fans for that one.
@@aridddle that didn't even make sense towards anything we were talking about. You ok dude? Put the bottle or pipe down. Youve had enough. Again. You blamed these problems on the fans when it was the fault of the developers.
@@gagesons9006 I never blamed it on fans. That's what actually happened. By the time it was realized by ubisoft what they had in Vaas as a character they couldn't go back and change the game. So they marketed the gem they had In Vaas to cover the fact that they (ubisoft) made a massive mistake by not making Vaas the main villian. There are stories of how they called in the actor who played Vaas after the fact to create marketing around Vaas.
Waluigi's limited appearances just makes him mysterious. I'm no expert, but I know that mysterious means sexy. That's why I try and channel Big Waluigi Energy when I go to night clubs.
That lore is so impossibly muddled now. Ultimate Custom Night provided one of the best conclusions to any villain arc I've seen, and that should've been the end of the Afton story.
Mass Effect's the reapers/the Kett from Andromeda. It seems unfair to say both ME central villain factions deserve a spot, but they both suffer from the same development issues, and that's the fact the developers didn't know what to do with them. The Reapers are giant killer robots for Christ sakes and even with all the dlc their goals and creation make no sense and leave no closure for the final confrontation with them, and the Kett are just a group of aliens that forcibly mutate others into being like them as if that's a whole new thing in Mass Effect as that's literally what the reapers were doing.
Larson Conway and Pierre DuPont; Tomb Raider series. These two villains are originally in the first Tomb Raider (which they survive) only to run up against Lara in her pursuit of the Philosopher’s Stone. This story sees both of them meet their end, and in rather unfortunate ways. Larson gets killed by a revived gargoyle as he ignores Lara’s warning, and Pierre falls to his death in a scenario which could lead to charges of manslaughter at best and 1st degree murder at worst. These villains deserved to be more than the comic relief they ended up being through their time in the story.
I'd say Jono was worse done by in Assassin's Creed. She was hyped up as the main villain of the entire series only to be unceremoniously killed off in a comic.
Zant from Twilight Princess had a chance to something special before he was revealed to be kind of an idiot and completely discarded 75% through the story. Vaati is another Zelda villain ripe with potential, but i doubt he'll ever be used again.
Ganondorf didn't have that much presence in the game. Zant had that Majora's Mask/Skull kid villain vibe that really hit. I liked him because he had that unstable villain personality and was responsible for Midna's curse and the Twilight covering Hyrule. It should have been him to be the main villain not so much Ganondorf.
@@TheOmegaDragon Agreed. He walks in the front door and says "Surrender or I'll kill everyone. Your light magic will only slow me down, but it won't stop me" I was like wow, this is hardcore for a Zelda game. His air of menace was intense.
It didn’t seem like a plot twist in The Last of Us Part 2 to me because he was barely in any trailer leading up to release. Also considering how the first one ended it seemed inevitable.
He actually was in the main major trailer, that was part of the reason why fans were so upset. And not really, did you not see what mental gymnastics were necessary to make it happen? Despite the world not having much means to communicate with each other and little reason to just travel through zombieinfested areas, someone saw tommy somewhere and then reported it to people far, far away and then those people actually were fine sending several of their best troops into the wilderness to hunt for someone that isn't even joel himself... right, makes complete sense. Like many other things in tlou2 it's completely contrived and has 0 natural flow to it. It just needed to happen or the plot would not happen.
They even had Joel's voice actor read some lines specifically for the marketing campaign, to hide the fact they were killing him off so early. The trailer even had an older version of him to further throw people off. I was still on the fence about playing the franchise, so I was watching the lead-up to release very carefully as I wanted to see how the second game's story turned out before paying money to pick up either game. So it's really weird to see people deny the bullshit moves Naughty Dog pulled on that one. They fucked that up so badly that I'm _never_ going to even consider playing one of their games again.
@@Mori_Orionif you read the notes and listen to tbe recordings, she wasn't the first one that they found who was immune .either way there was no way in hell that a vet & 2 nurses were going to do something that takes laboratories of people to accomplish. And that ignores the fact that you can't create vaccines against fungal Infections in the first place.
In Arkham Knight I'd say Deathstroke was more of downgrade than Firefly. He was one of the toughest bosses in Origins and was reduced to just a tank driver in Knight. Chasing Firefly was actually one of the more fun missions involving the Batmoblie.
Just to correct you on something, Waluigi really isn't someone whom can be classified as a villain. More often than not, he finds himself working "with" his rivals to take down Bowser.
@@thecunninlynguist And that's the thing. Waluigi has only existed in spin-off titles, and while he may be a rival to the Mario Bros., he's a harmless character who's no real threat to anyone.
@@timothypitcher7996 All because Nintendo didn't come up with him. Camelot Software Planning did, so Nintendo is always hesitant to do anything with him.
@@martinc7561 In the end, it's clear that Waluigi was simply created to give the Mario Bros. an extra rival. Could he have had bigger roles? Perhaps, but much like with Wario, he really isn't a credible threat by any means.
Joel and Ellie aren’t villains, Abby is. Also, Joel did the right thing, because there’s no way the Fireflies could make a vaccine or cure- you can’t even vaccinate against fungi. There was also no reason for them to cut up Ellie’s head, as they would only need her antibodies, blood tests and tissue tests.
@@key0777 Joel wasn’t the one wishing to kill an innoccent little girl for an experiment that had no chance of success. Abby’s father was part of a terrorist organization and he knew an innoccent girl would die. Sure, Joel used to be a raider and a smuggler, but he changed. Everyone Joel kills in TLOU1 during the game’s duration are to protect himself and Ellie. Abby is an elite contract soldier, she definitely wasn’t innoccent of any murders or killings. Joel didn’t hunt someone halfway across the country to murder someone in cold blood, Abby did. And when her own faction turns against her, she doesn’t even say a word of apology or regret after killing her past friends, colleagues and teammates. Abby started the entire conflict that got all her friends killed by seeking out Joel. Joel simply saved a girl from terrorists. They are not the same.
@@ArkBlanc Well they wanted to sacrifice her to save the lives a possible millions or whatever remained of humanity including other children. So he’s just as evil if not worse than Ellie and Abby. Joel was givin a mission he barely wanted to take and tripped at the finish line. Not to mention the many other innocent people Joel’s murdered. Joel got what he brought on himself and deserved.
@@key0777 No. Absolutely not. You cannot make a vaccine for fungal infections. You can cleanse it with an antifungal, but that's it. Joel understood that the Fireflies had no chance creating any cure or vaccine from killing an innoccent girl. Even if they could make one, they wouldn't have to open up her skull to do it, they'd only need the antibodies in her blood and some tissue samples they could've gotten from anywhere on her body. She is completely immune to the fungus and therefore her antibodies would be found literally everywhere. Blood, skin tissue, spit, urine and fecal tests, that's all they would need. However, if you take a look at the absolute state of the hospital, you would notice that it's in complete shambles and has no equipment to make anything, let alone a vaccine or cure. It was a fool's errand to try and kill her, and Joel was completely justified. Joel should've never been killed. Joel was a hero.
It's weird....but for ages I completely forgot that Vaas WASN'T the main antagonist in Far Cry 3....and I still can't remember the actual baddie's name apart from that it had an H in it, I think, and it sounded Germanic...and no. I'm not looking it up. I'm not ruining my (obviously mistaken) belief that Vaas was the main bad guy and the rest of the game was side - quests and some really enjoyable Ubisoft filler ☺️
The Assassins Creed games, despite being fictionalized history retells, still need to adhere to certain bulletpoints of truth. People complain about the ending if the Second Assassins Creed game because Ezio spares Rodrigo Borgia but he dies elsewhere later in real life. Ubisoft can't alter certain times of when things we know happened and write their stories around what happened in real life.
M. Bison Despite being the final boss of the iconic SF2 that truly kicked off the franchise, ever since M. Bisons role has been downgraded to more of a deuteragonist. He still moves the needle in the story, but hes never as big and bad as the next person despite running his own shadow organization seeking world domination. Also the fact that he always ends up betrayed and thwarted by some of his own henchmen or experiments like the Dolls, or his former apprentice Rose. The only constants are Balrog and Vega who keep their relations to a purely financial and professional one, but every other person Bison tends to deal with has a hand in Bisons failure. Then there is the fact that Bison is constantly struggling to find a new vessel for his degrading body every single game and every single body he attempts to take is a resounding failed attempt. At the moment Bisons body is completely just gone, but his soul still lives on and he is in search for a new body after still failing to find one. Despite being the bad ass world domination seeker he was painted as in his introduction, ever since he has been struggling to hold onto power, his organization, his goals, and his own body.
Let me just say I love how the developers of Sonic, at the _very least,_ have been open minded. His love of chili-dogs was established in the Jaleel White cartoon, and they liked that so much they actually made that a part of his character (favorite food = chili-dogs) And I *REALLY* hope that Jim Carey's take on the character rubs off on future games, as well, lol Almost as much as I hope he gets fat in the 3rd movie, lmao
Maybe this list should be called "10 underwhelming villains" or "10 villains not as cool as you thought" or "10 villains who peaked too early" or something cause the title was a little misleading and clickbaity. Your complaints about Eggman and Waluigi aren't really that they got ruined, just that they stayed the same over time (which, personally, seems fine to me), and the metal gear guy existed for a portion of a single game. So saying he was "ruined over time" might be... Sorry, "RUINED over time" might be a stretch. I love what culture. I've watched a lot of your lists and while I don't always agree with the entries this is the first time I've ever felt like the title didn't match most of the content.
It wasn't Joel's death that ruined the game for me. It was that the devs had to literally force a change on his and Tommy's personalities and make them total derps who forgot all the hardship they went through to make it possible for him to get killed in the first place. He just hangs out with this huge group of random people without any hesitation and then reveals his name without a care in the world so they can confirm he's their target. LoU 1 Joel would never be that monumentally stupid. And if anything he would be even more careful knowing he essentially destroyed the Fireflies and a cure for the Cordyceps in one fell swoop.
Should Joel and Tommy have just taken their chances with the horde instead of seeking shelter with strangers? They were already gonna be killed by infected, so it made perfect sense for them to trust some strangers in that moment. Even so, Joel was still suspicious and on-guard when they arrived at the mansion. You can see it in his body language and hear it in his voice. He knew something was wrong almost immediately. Also, Abby already knew who they were before Joel introduced himself, because Tommy told her their names when they were still being chased by the horde. That's part of the reason Abby suggested that they go to the mansion in the first place.
I actually laughed when I heard the updated Tiny Tiger's voice for the first time. I think the trouble is/was that the original T.T. was a product of their own limitations -- he was a low-I.Q. brute because that was the most they could do with the PS1. So when they finally could do more, they wanted to do more, not expecting the Crash fans to go full Rain Man on them for it.
i felt like skullface was meant for something else in MGS5. if the plot is that you are a medic who has been psychologically conditioned to think they are big boss and keep his work going, skull face would be perfectly positioned as a mirror to the main character (heh like the mirror at the end) if he was also conditioned to think he was big boss and the burning man, quiet (starting as an enemy) and other super powered enemies would be big boss building a powerful team, and when they come after you on missions is because they see some medic with a metal demon horn kidnapping soldiers and building a mercenary operation. skull face would see himself the same way players see themselves as big boss fighting some dangerously powerful foe.
I personally enjoyed the boss fights with Simmons. They're so bonkers. It's part of what of what makes that game so delightfully absurd. He is still a disappointing villain, though. Because he is the biggest, most spoiled, idiotic creeper EVER. You play Leon's campaign and meet a cold, calculating, ruthless villain in complete control and then watch as everything he cares about falls apart. You almost relish it as he gets his just desserts. Then, as Chris and Sherry, Simons is all but absent, and you mainly deal with the real villain Not-Ada. The revelation.that Sherry works for Simmons is completely meaningless because it's the first time he's even mentioned in her campaign! Then you play as Real-Ada and find out that the whole thing, the entire crisis started because Simmons was so obsessed with Ada that he spent billions of dollars, killing millions of women, just to alter their DNA so they would look like Ada 🙄 that's it. And the brainwashed woman who found out that she wasn't originally Ada went out for revenge. That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, plastic surgery is a thing, second, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! The most groan inducing dramatic reveal ever 🤣😂🤣 However, for people like me that find RE6 a guilty pleasure, it's that level of stupidity that's part of the game's charm. They called this thing "the ultimate horror experience." 😂 wtf? 😂
exactly, also he is a damn meat-former (meat transformer) going from bullet-dog, to zombie t.rex to freakin belzebub, yeah sorry, but this is just hillariously awesome. Honestly not sure why people are so bothered by it. I got very late into the whole resi series but what I noticed, a lot of its charm comes from its damn cheesyness XD THe resi fans are like modern hollywood, ashamed of cheese and sillyness for the suck of a fun and entertaining adventure. XD also I would almost argue that resi 6 got horror a bit better done than 5
@@toongrowner1 RE5 was largely just RE4.5 to me given a vast majority of the infected were still Las Plagas (albeit Type 2 and 3), with only 5 Uroboros-related things - 3 blobs of worms, the Reapers, and Wesker. But yeah, I loved RE6 and beat all the campaigns numerous times. It was just so addicting to me, lol.
@@KittyKatt_Luna80s I actually Like Everyone at WhatCulture i dont have their Names Down but i also Like the Bearded Guy and the other Guy that makes Retro Videos most of the Time sort of the Gaming Historian of the Channel.
So many people just blindly take the fireflies at their word instead of reading the in game notes how they were planning to backstab the delivery guy, or use common sense about vaccine development. There was no excuse human sacrificing Ellie would even work in the first place. Might have produced a dud or had side effects making worse mutations or something.
Not exactly a villain, but Dishonored: Death of the Outsider turned the Outsider into a whiny teen with angst rather than the trickster baddie he was in Dishonored 1.
I’m amazed that Arthas isn’t on this list, the stand out villain in Warcraft turned into nothing more than another puppet of another even bigger bad as part of a plan that not even the writers could figure out.
Waluigi was never initially made by Nintendo, only approved by them; that's why they dunk on him as they do. He was never an original property. They needed someone to pair Wario with the first Tennis game, which was made by a third-party company and published by Nintendo -- that third-party company was who designed Waluigi.
I played re6 after I watched transformers 4 or 5 which ever grimlock was in and when Derrick transforms into a trex I was busting up laughing think Leon was gonna scream "were giving you FREEEDOM"
Cesare Borgia was Rodrigo's son. Not nephew. Rodrigo was also a pedophile and had an incestuous relationship with his daughter Lucrezia (Cesare did as well) in the game. Also, Simmons doesn't infect himself. He GETS infected by Carla Radames, aka Fake Ada (the one in the blue dress). Look it up if you don't believe me.
What Telltale did with Thanos is correct though. Anyone that reads comics knows that Thanos is a borderline joke and that Marvel's best villain has always been Dr Doom. But keep it twisted for the movie going audience I guess
Is Jess aware of how hard she butchered the basic pronunciation of multiple names while recording this? Cesare Borgia was Rodrigo's son, not his nephew. Ellie and Joel were more than justified, the Fireflies were a militaristic cult of terrorists whose plan would not have worked. Simmons did not infect himself. It's ironic when you guys talk about layered, complex, and genuinely enthralling, three things this video is not. This channel makes such good content when it actually cares and tries. This is just disappointing.
Here we go again...Joel isn't a villain. Get off your high horse and get over it. It was an impossible decision you didn't have to make that you can Monday morning quarterback. As someone who lost my 9-year-old daughter in real life, I would have done the same thing.
You aren't a villain for saying that people can't kill someone to maybe make a cure. Everyone deserves their life. And there's a difference between everyone is dealing with the fungus vs taking someone's life to make your life better. If you'll rationalize killing someone for any reason other than protection, then you'll be able to find a reason to take anyone's life.
not to mention, there are multiple problems with this cure plan: 1. vaccines can't cure fungal infections 2. this game takes place 20 years after the first outbreak, most resources are now gone and not as plentiful for mass vaccination 3. what is their plan to get this cure out, go to every QZ ignorant about the fact the Militia will kill them on sight and probably use this vaccine to maintain control 4. not to mention, people will still kill each other for supplies and will attempt to kill the Fireflies due to their reputation as terrorists 5. hostile groups like the Hunters, WLF, Seraphites, Cannibals, Rattlers, and etc. will still exist 6. how to are they gonna handle the whole "more than half of the population is infected or dead" sure you can't turn no more, but that doesn't mean they won't try to kill you and eat you the game acts like once this cure is made, everything will return to how it was before the outbreak. This world is too damaged to be repaired
Indeed. There was no guarantee it would even work. But technically a vaccine isn’t a cure. Cures work after you get sick. Vaccines are supposed to be preventative
Vaas' death wouldn't have been nearly as bad if it weren't for the fact that Hoyt Volker was such a wet squib! To the point that I couldn't even remember his name and had to look it up to make this comment.
Derek Simmons isn’t an iconic villain in the Resident Evil franchise. Albert Wesker is more of an iconic villain in the Resident Evil franchise. Heck, even NEMESIS from Resident Evil 3 Nemesis and the RE3 Remake is more iconic than Derek Simmons.
Probably want to look up some name pronunciations before releasing these videos! It's not "yuka yuka" it's "Ooka Ooka" (spelt Uka Uka), and it's not "Seesare Borgia" it's "Chesarey Borgia" (spelt Cesare).
Prince Lacroix in Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines was the most disappointing main villain I recall. The man doesn't even put up a fight! And it is not like you could say that he's al brain and no brawn, because he's not that intelligent either. It makes you wonder how did he become prince of L.A. in the first place.
Didn't Joel kill two guys after they gave him the information he needed to find Ellie and also kill Marlene? On top of everything in the Hospital, he is 100% the villian over Abby and started the whole conflict.
It's pretty clear that Joel had been an absolute horrible human being over the past twenty years before Ellie showed up. He hinted at it himself. Joel simply was the villain we would come to understand as we were in control of his actions. It made him relatable, sympathetic (to some). Though, I don't believe he started the conflict. Did he add to it? Oh yes, but he wasn't who initiated it. The Fireflies clearly had ill intent towards Ellie, and their...understanding...of science was downright risible. Abby herself displayed a serious lack of empathy, and in fact during her scene with Dina, appeared to relish the thought of killing her, AFTER knowing her circumstances. In a way, she's a dark reflection of both Joel and Ellie, though the writers fumbled the ball, and didn't clearly establish her with significant sympathetic traits. They dropped the ball. That doesn't mean that Joel should be excused for his actions...Joel never cared about the cure, and while I will maintain that the Fireflies 'cure' was NEVER, EVER going to work, and was scientifically improbable...Joel didn't know that, couldn't have known that, and DIDN'T CARE. He'd screw over the world for his daughter, and never made an attempt to hide it...except to the one person who he NEEDED to be honest with...which ended up setting HER on a collision course with someone else with a grudge setting up a very depressing cycle of pain and revenge. Good Job, Joel. Good Job.
Joel/Ellie as villains? FFS...Gigantor was the clear villain, and the game used every cheap trick to get you to sympathize with her, which I did not, even the least little bit.
1) Not to mention that they totally got tiny tigers species wrong. He is a tazmanian tiger, not a sebirian one. 2) Waluigi isn't a real character anyway. he is, what was it described? A mirror of a mirror? Also considering Warios anti-hero status, I can't really see him be friends with waluigi 3) Firefly was pretty cool in origin, yeah he was a small villains but yeah... those exist too, not every villian needs to be a big name... and as alfed once said, some people just want to see the world burn 4) I actually love Simmons, it's kinda funny that he just doesnt wanna die so easy and.... damn, he is a freakin meat-former (meat transformer), going from bullet dog, to t-rex zombie to freakin beelzebub. It's kind of hillariously awesome.
how is Shao Kahn not on this list? In his debut, he was an absolutely iconic final boss battle. In game, he was a better schemer and more manipulative than Shang Tsung, possessed powerful magic and strength after consuming 1000s of souls, and ruled over a massive empire. Eventually he'd go on to even defeat blaze and Onaga, proving himself the most powerful warrior in the series. Only chosen one Liu Kang and elder god empowered Raiden could defeat him, otherwise every time he entered the game it was always a moment where you felt dread and wondered how they'd possibly defeat this guy. Flash forward to MK11 and he is basically a weak thug who can't seem to do anything right without Sindel. He even loses in 1v1 combat to Kitana, who in the old games straight up was incapable of defeating him. Then they reconned all his scheming so that it was basically Sindel's idea. guy went from a 10 strength 10 intelligence mega threat to a 5 strength 2 intelligence dumb henchman, ruining the most iconic villain of the franchise in favor of Shang Tsung, who was originally just his puppet (don't get me wrong, Shang Tsung final villain was fantastic, but it should have taken a hell of a scheme to topple Shoa Kahn instead of what we got)
Modern Shao Kahn is a shadow of his former self because the writers don't seem to understand the character. He's not just a big beefy guy that hits you with a hammer, he's a brilliant strategist and mastermind. Resurrecting Sindel was HIS plan, merging the realms was HIS plan, he betrayed Onaga purely through out thinking him, not because he won a fist fight.
Wow a Shao Khan fanboy
@@Ted_Bell The few, the proud
@@Ted_Bell And the fanboy is right. What Neatherealm did to him was offensive.
Atlas/Frank Fontaine from Bioshock. He was an amazing villain throughout the game. Then you fight him at the end in which it was very boring and uninspiring for a villain that manipulated you throughout the game
Yep, just a "shoot him until you win" type battle overall. Literally just got through beating Bioshock (again) a couple days ago too.
They made him the shiny bald guy final boss cliche' from every 90's fighting game that wasn't SF or MK.
I also like that they took anything interesting about his character model, and turned him into Dr. Manhattan
That was.....interesting.....
Bioshock 2 is better. People who play Bioshock one deserve what they get.
@@Ted_Bell I agree. It's my favorite out of the three
Derek Simmons was never a compelling villain, and certainly didn't infect himself. The whole game comes about essentially because he simps hard for Ada, who rejects him, so he uses the virus to turn Carla Radames (another scientist who had a crush on simmons) physically into Ada. Radames, pissed off at having been messed with, infects simmons (through a nameless grunt).
I still maintain that Vaas was so effective BECAUSE he didn't overstay his welcome.
What about that DLC for Farcry 6? Doesn't Vaas somehow survive?
It could have been better if Vaas came back at the end of the game and there was an all out battle between Vaas’ pirates and Hoyts mercs while Jason tries to rescue Riley in the middle of it all.
Well at least Firefly got a decent boss fight in Origins. Plus a okay series of chases in Knight. He's a side villain but there's nothing wrong with that.
I know he's not iconic,but Remor from Fran Bow was pretty intimidating and unsettling,at least until the developer released a cute little plushie of him,and now I can't take him seriously.
exactyl, not every villain needs to be a big name.
Derek Simmons from Resident Evil 6 did not infect himself, his assistant that fell in love with him that he decided to turn into Ada Wong's doppelganger was the one who infected Derek Simmons using one of the ganados.
Lol lore from resident evil 6. Lol
Pretty sure it was the shotgun blast to the head that finished Skullface off, not Sahelanthropus.
I'm gonna say Sephiroth gets my vote for this kind of list. His debut in the OG FF7 painted him as a mysterious, elusive, boogieman type threat. You heard whispers of him and his accomplishments, but he is supposed to be dead, so what even are you dealing with? Getting those answers as you play the game was nothing short of an epiphany of what video game stories could be.
Now?... Sephy's just an attention-seeking, Cloud-obsessed, pretentious doof. OG Sephiroth didn't know or care who Cloud is. The plot twist of the game went out of its way to show that Cloud was just some nobody, but now, he and Sephiroth are star-crossed rivals whose battle will determine the fate of the multiverse... Gag.
Because the new games aren't a remake, they're a sequel in the form of redoing the events of the original and changing events. That's why Sephiroth and Aerith have memories from the original. If you knew the person that killed you and ended your mission and you had the chance to do it all over while retaining memories of what happened, are you seriously saying you wouldn't pay a bit more attention to the person that ultimately stopped you? Because if you don't, you're essentially doing the same exact thing over again, which is literally insane.
@@SpaghettiYOLOKingTTV Yeah, I get that. That's also one of my beefs with FF7R; it being a sequel rather than a remake. It takes the original's theme of loss and how it affects our identities, and turns into a boring "define your own fate" story. Also, all the appearances in Kingdom Hearts pull the same thing. It's almost like Nomura didn't understand Cloud and Sephiroth's dynamic in FF7.
All that said, I still feel that all this supplementary material ruined Sephiroth as a villain. He's more annoying now, in my opinion.
It's made pretty clear a big part of Sephiroth's motivation in the original game is screwing with Cloud because he killed him in the backstory. That's why Sephiroth spends the first half of the game screwing with Cloud's head.
Of course, the second half he just does nothing just like Kefka but...
@@immortalfrieza I don't agree with that, simply for the reason that it isn't Sephiroth who even brings up that Cloud killed him (in the OG FF7, that is). He messed with Cloud to manipulate him into getting the black materia. That's all Cloud was to Sephy; a useful puppet. Once he got what he wanted, he left Cloud and co. alone until they came crashing through his front door in the final dungeon. That only added to Sephiroth's appeal as the villain, in my opinion. He doesn't care because he thinks he's above all that nonsense. The subsequent material just makes him out to be more of a clown than Kefka. He's no longer a boogeyman; he's constantly in your face, goading you into killing fate, and absolutely destroying the theme of the original. After all, who cares about loss when you can just time travel and kill the arbiters of fate to bring people back from the dead?
@@tdblackboxx6866 "I don't agree with that, simply for the reason that it isn't Sephiroth who even brings up that Cloud killed him"
Sephiroth doesn't bring it up because it would undermine the mind games he's playing with Cloud, as shown by when Cloud actually finds out what happened his misery and delusion ends. Sephiroth is taking advantage of Cloud's delusion to screw with him due to Sephiroth's resentment over Cloud killing him. Sephiroth could easily have gotten the Black Materia and completed his plans at any time in the game, but he manipulates Cloud into doing it for him because he's screwing with Cloud for the sake of revenge.
In fact, at one point Sephiroth even has the Black Materia on hand and could've gone straight to the Northern Crater to give it to his real self. Instead he plays a convoluted game where he kills Aerith and gives the Black Materia to Cloud so he... could then have Cloud give it to him at the Norther Crater.
He leaves Cloud and Co alone after he gets the Black Materia because he's just waiting for his plan to be completed. In Sephiroth's mind he already won and all he has to do is wait around for a few days. It isn't until Cloud and Co show up at the Northern Crater that he bothers to do anything because there's no reason to.
For me, Tiny wasn't the worst casualty of that era of Crash. Crunch was. See, Tiny had like two appearances in the Titan games and that was it, his remake was dead and gone. But Crunch? They've kept him a furry Mr T since then, even though Wrath Of Cortex Crunch had some brain, a vengeful desire and not just mindless anger, and a gravelly voice not a "URGH! PITY THE FOOL! URGH!" one.
Crunch could've been a great character, maybe even a playable one to add variety given he's heavier but stronger than Crash or Coco (imagine a Crash game were you could swap between the three on the fly, mid-level, to access different paths or secrets). But in Twinsanity he was reduced in size and given no speaking roles, and afterwards he was just ruined.
As I say, Tiny at least broke free of his cursed remake.
Top 10 QTEs in video games the player missed at least once.
Vaas was actually a victim of late success. He was intended to just be a generic thug type, but fans fell in love with his depiction AFTER the game was already completed and was being marketed, so he was stuck as the best villian who never could so to speak.
I doubt it, he isn't treated as a "generic thug type" through the game AT ALL. Maybe they didn't expect this level of success, but it's obvious that he was meant to be special and memorable.
Ummm the literal fact that the game only advertised him and then bamboozled you with another boss completely invalidates your point. He was the only villain mentioned. All over the ads. Amazing and spectacular as a villain. Then the game releases and he's just gone halfway through? Claiming it was fans fault is like claiming cyberpunk was the fault of cd projekt red. Fans fault for cyberpunk because they were literally harassing CDPR for cyberpunk before it was finished. Ubisoft said hey heres your bad guy and made him awesome then took him away from us. Your point is moot. Not on the fans for that one.
@@gagesons9006 most it was made after it was finished and ubisoft had test groups say how much they loved vaas.
@@aridddle that didn't even make sense towards anything we were talking about. You ok dude? Put the bottle or pipe down. Youve had enough. Again. You blamed these problems on the fans when it was the fault of the developers.
@@gagesons9006 I never blamed it on fans. That's what actually happened. By the time it was realized by ubisoft what they had in Vaas as a character they couldn't go back and change the game. So they marketed the gem they had In Vaas to cover the fact that they (ubisoft) made a massive mistake by not making Vaas the main villian. There are stories of how they called in the actor who played Vaas after the fact to create marketing around Vaas.
Waluigi's limited appearances just makes him mysterious. I'm no expert, but I know that mysterious means sexy. That's why I try and channel Big Waluigi Energy when I go to night clubs.
William Afton comes to mind
The purple guy
The man behind the slaughter
Thr new mimic storyline really helps with this. I’m glad they finally decided to have afton be gone for good in fnaf 6 like it should of been
That lore is so impossibly muddled now. Ultimate Custom Night provided one of the best conclusions to any villain arc I've seen, and that should've been the end of the Afton story.
It's a game for little kids
Mass Effect's the reapers/the Kett from Andromeda. It seems unfair to say both ME central villain factions deserve a spot, but they both suffer from the same development issues, and that's the fact the developers didn't know what to do with them. The Reapers are giant killer robots for Christ sakes and even with all the dlc their goals and creation make no sense and leave no closure for the final confrontation with them, and the Kett are just a group of aliens that forcibly mutate others into being like them as if that's a whole new thing in Mass Effect as that's literally what the reapers were doing.
Vaas has a lot of great lines, but the whole "This is a nice f'n phone." from the beginning has always been my favorite.
Larson Conway and Pierre DuPont; Tomb Raider series. These two villains are originally in the first Tomb Raider (which they survive) only to run up against Lara in her pursuit of the Philosopher’s Stone. This story sees both of them meet their end, and in rather unfortunate ways. Larson gets killed by a revived gargoyle as he ignores Lara’s warning, and Pierre falls to his death in a scenario which could lead to charges of manslaughter at best and 1st degree murder at worst. These villains deserved to be more than the comic relief they ended up being through their time in the story.
I'd say Jono was worse done by in Assassin's Creed. She was hyped up as the main villain of the entire series only to be unceremoniously killed off in a comic.
Nah I DEFINITELY seen Joel as the villain by the end of the first game.
Zant from Twilight Princess had a chance to something special before he was revealed to be kind of an idiot and completely discarded 75% through the story.
Vaati is another Zelda villain ripe with potential, but i doubt he'll ever be used again.
Ganondorf didn't have that much presence in the game. Zant had that Majora's Mask/Skull kid villain vibe that really hit. I liked him because he had that unstable villain personality and was responsible for Midna's curse and the Twilight covering Hyrule. It should have been him to be the main villain not so much Ganondorf.
@@TheOmegaDragon Agreed. He walks in the front door and says "Surrender or I'll kill everyone. Your light magic will only slow me down, but it won't stop me"
I was like wow, this is hardcore for a Zelda game. His air of menace was intense.
It didn’t seem like a plot twist in The Last of Us Part 2 to me because he was barely in any trailer leading up to release. Also considering how the first one ended it seemed inevitable.
who said it was a plot twist?
Not to mention it’s extremely unlikely that Ellie isn’t the only person immune
He actually was in the main major trailer, that was part of the reason why fans were so upset. And not really, did you not see what mental gymnastics were necessary to make it happen? Despite the world not having much means to communicate with each other and little reason to just travel through zombieinfested areas, someone saw tommy somewhere and then reported it to people far, far away and then those people actually were fine sending several of their best troops into the wilderness to hunt for someone that isn't even joel himself... right, makes complete sense. Like many other things in tlou2 it's completely contrived and has 0 natural flow to it. It just needed to happen or the plot would not happen.
They even had Joel's voice actor read some lines specifically for the marketing campaign, to hide the fact they were killing him off so early. The trailer even had an older version of him to further throw people off.
I was still on the fence about playing the franchise, so I was watching the lead-up to release very carefully as I wanted to see how the second game's story turned out before paying money to pick up either game.
So it's really weird to see people deny the bullshit moves Naughty Dog pulled on that one. They fucked that up so badly that I'm _never_ going to even consider playing one of their games again.
@@Mori_Orionif you read the notes and listen to tbe recordings, she wasn't the first one that they found who was immune .either way there was no way in hell that a vet & 2 nurses were going to do something that takes laboratories of people to accomplish. And that ignores the fact that you can't create vaccines against fungal Infections in the first place.
May I just point out that the bomb used to "sterilize" Raccoon city in Resident Evil was a Thermobaric weapon. not nuclear.
In Arkham Knight I'd say Deathstroke was more of downgrade than Firefly. He was one of the toughest bosses in Origins and was reduced to just a tank driver in Knight. Chasing Firefly was actually one of the more fun missions involving the Batmoblie.
Gotta agree. Deathstroke's battle was a rehash of the Knight's, which wasn't very good anyway.
Just to correct you on something, Waluigi really isn't someone whom can be classified as a villain. More often than not, he finds himself working "with" his rivals to take down Bowser.
he's even less of a character
@@thecunninlynguist And that's the thing. Waluigi has only existed in spin-off titles, and while he may be a rival to the Mario Bros., he's a harmless character who's no real threat to anyone.
@@timothypitcher7996 All because Nintendo didn't come up with him. Camelot Software Planning did, so Nintendo is always hesitant to do anything with him.
@@martinc7561 In the end, it's clear that Waluigi was simply created to give the Mario Bros. an extra rival. Could he have had bigger roles? Perhaps, but much like with Wario, he really isn't a credible threat by any means.
@@timothypitcher7996 right i was adding to your logic not trying to take away from it.
Mandela effect?
I read Batman for over 20 years: never heard of 'Firefly'.
SMH
Joel and Ellie aren’t villains, Abby is. Also, Joel did the right thing, because there’s no way the Fireflies could make a vaccine or cure- you can’t even vaccinate against fungi.
There was also no reason for them to cut up Ellie’s head, as they would only need her antibodies, blood tests and tissue tests.
EXACTLY. I hate when people act like Joel was a villain for not being a dumbass
How is Abby a villain for killing a mass murderer and avenging her father lmao Joel was definitely the villian that started the conflict.
@@key0777 Joel wasn’t the one wishing to kill an innoccent little girl for an experiment that had no chance of success.
Abby’s father was part of a terrorist organization and he knew an innoccent girl would die.
Sure, Joel used to be a raider and a smuggler, but he changed. Everyone Joel kills in TLOU1 during the game’s duration are to protect himself and Ellie.
Abby is an elite contract soldier, she definitely wasn’t innoccent of any murders or killings.
Joel didn’t hunt someone halfway across the country to murder someone in cold blood, Abby did. And when her own faction turns against her, she doesn’t even say a word of apology or regret after killing her past friends, colleagues and teammates.
Abby started the entire conflict that got all her friends killed by seeking out Joel. Joel simply saved a girl from terrorists. They are not the same.
@@ArkBlanc Well they wanted to sacrifice her to save the lives a possible millions or whatever remained of humanity including other children. So he’s just as evil if not worse than Ellie and Abby. Joel was givin a mission he barely wanted to take and tripped at the finish line. Not to mention the many other innocent people Joel’s murdered. Joel got what he brought on himself and deserved.
@@key0777 No. Absolutely not. You cannot make a vaccine for fungal infections.
You can cleanse it with an antifungal, but that's it.
Joel understood that the Fireflies had no chance creating any cure or vaccine from killing an innoccent girl.
Even if they could make one, they wouldn't have to open up her skull to do it, they'd only need the antibodies in her blood and some tissue samples they could've gotten from anywhere on her body.
She is completely immune to the fungus and therefore her antibodies would be found literally everywhere.
Blood, skin tissue, spit, urine and fecal tests, that's all they would need.
However, if you take a look at the absolute state of the hospital, you would notice that it's in complete shambles and has no equipment to make anything, let alone a vaccine or cure.
It was a fool's errand to try and kill her, and Joel was completely justified.
Joel should've never been killed. Joel was a hero.
It's weird....but for ages I completely forgot that Vaas WASN'T the main antagonist in Far Cry 3....and I still can't remember the actual baddie's name apart from that it had an H in it, I think, and it sounded Germanic...and no. I'm not looking it up. I'm not ruining my (obviously mistaken) belief that Vaas was the main bad guy and the rest of the game was side - quests and some really enjoyable Ubisoft filler ☺️
The Assassins Creed games, despite being fictionalized history retells, still need to adhere to certain bulletpoints of truth. People complain about the ending if the Second Assassins Creed game because Ezio spares Rodrigo Borgia but he dies elsewhere later in real life. Ubisoft can't alter certain times of when things we know happened and write their stories around what happened in real life.
M. Bison
Despite being the final boss of the iconic SF2 that truly kicked off the franchise, ever since M. Bisons role has been downgraded to more of a deuteragonist. He still moves the needle in the story, but hes never as big and bad as the next person despite running his own shadow organization seeking world domination. Also the fact that he always ends up betrayed and thwarted by some of his own henchmen or experiments like the Dolls, or his former apprentice Rose. The only constants are Balrog and Vega who keep their relations to a purely financial and professional one, but every other person Bison tends to deal with has a hand in Bisons failure. Then there is the fact that Bison is constantly struggling to find a new vessel for his degrading body every single game and every single body he attempts to take is a resounding failed attempt. At the moment Bisons body is completely just gone, but his soul still lives on and he is in search for a new body after still failing to find one. Despite being the bad ass world domination seeker he was painted as in his introduction, ever since he has been struggling to hold onto power, his organization, his goals, and his own body.
Get lose! You can't compare to M.Bison's power!
I couldn't agree more with Rodrigo Borgia, he was amazing in AC2 and then you can forget he was still alive throughout Brotherhood.
Let me just say I love how the developers of Sonic, at the _very least,_ have been open minded.
His love of chili-dogs was established in the Jaleel White cartoon, and they liked that so much they actually made that a part of his character (favorite food = chili-dogs)
And I *REALLY* hope that Jim Carey's take on the character rubs off on future games, as well, lol
Almost as much as I hope he gets fat in the 3rd movie, lmao
Maybe this list should be called "10 underwhelming villains" or "10 villains not as cool as you thought" or "10 villains who peaked too early" or something cause the title was a little misleading and clickbaity. Your complaints about Eggman and Waluigi aren't really that they got ruined, just that they stayed the same over time (which, personally, seems fine to me), and the metal gear guy existed for a portion of a single game. So saying he was "ruined over time" might be... Sorry, "RUINED over time" might be a stretch. I love what culture. I've watched a lot of your lists and while I don't always agree with the entries this is the first time I've ever felt like the title didn't match most of the content.
In Batman on the NES they called him Firebug and he was the first part the the Joker boss fight at the end
Someone needs to be introduced to the Waluigi Rap Trilogy to show his worth
Handsome jack was such a good villain. Had a greater arc than any other character in borderlands……ever
It wasn't Joel's death that ruined the game for me. It was that the devs had to literally force a change on his and Tommy's personalities and make them total derps who forgot all the hardship they went through to make it possible for him to get killed in the first place. He just hangs out with this huge group of random people without any hesitation and then reveals his name without a care in the world so they can confirm he's their target. LoU 1 Joel would never be that monumentally stupid. And if anything he would be even more careful knowing he essentially destroyed the Fireflies and a cure for the Cordyceps in one fell swoop.
Should Joel and Tommy have just taken their chances with the horde instead of seeking shelter with strangers? They were already gonna be killed by infected, so it made perfect sense for them to trust some strangers in that moment.
Even so, Joel was still suspicious and on-guard when they arrived at the mansion. You can see it in his body language and hear it in his voice. He knew something was wrong almost immediately.
Also, Abby already knew who they were before Joel introduced himself, because Tommy told her their names when they were still being chased by the horde. That's part of the reason Abby suggested that they go to the mansion in the first place.
SCARECROW SHOULD BE IN FIREFLY PLACE!
I actually laughed when I heard the updated Tiny Tiger's voice for the first time. I think the trouble is/was that the original T.T. was a product of their own limitations -- he was a low-I.Q. brute because that was the most they could do with the PS1. So when they finally could do more, they wanted to do more, not expecting the Crash fans to go full Rain Man on them for it.
When you watch for gaming footage and instead just get awkward smiling eye-contact. o.O
Ngl, it is a little annoying that you mispronounced Cesare (sound like Chez-ar-ay)
i felt like skullface was meant for something else in MGS5. if the plot is that you are a medic who has been psychologically conditioned to think they are big boss and keep his work going, skull face would be perfectly positioned as a mirror to the main character (heh like the mirror at the end) if he was also conditioned to think he was big boss and the burning man, quiet (starting as an enemy) and other super powered enemies would be big boss building a powerful team, and when they come after you on missions is because they see some medic with a metal demon horn kidnapping soldiers and building a mercenary operation. skull face would see himself the same way players see themselves as big boss fighting some dangerously powerful foe.
Did no-one tell Jess how to pronounce Cesare?
I personally enjoyed the boss fights with Simmons. They're so bonkers. It's part of what of what makes that game so delightfully absurd. He is still a disappointing villain, though. Because he is the biggest, most spoiled, idiotic creeper EVER. You play Leon's campaign and meet a cold, calculating, ruthless villain in complete control and then watch as everything he cares about falls apart. You almost relish it as he gets his just desserts. Then, as Chris and Sherry, Simons is all but absent, and you mainly deal with the real villain Not-Ada. The revelation.that Sherry works for Simmons is completely meaningless because it's the first time he's even mentioned in her campaign!
Then you play as Real-Ada and find out that the whole thing, the entire crisis started because Simmons was so obsessed with Ada that he spent billions of dollars, killing millions of women, just to alter their DNA so they would look like Ada 🙄 that's it. And the brainwashed woman who found out that she wasn't originally Ada went out for revenge.
That is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, plastic surgery is a thing, second, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! The most groan inducing dramatic reveal ever 🤣😂🤣
However, for people like me that find RE6 a guilty pleasure, it's that level of stupidity that's part of the game's charm. They called this thing "the ultimate horror experience." 😂 wtf? 😂
exactly, also he is a damn meat-former (meat transformer) going from bullet-dog, to zombie t.rex to freakin belzebub, yeah sorry, but this is just hillariously awesome. Honestly not sure why people are so bothered by it. I got very late into the whole resi series but what I noticed, a lot of its charm comes from its damn cheesyness XD THe resi fans are like modern hollywood, ashamed of cheese and sillyness for the suck of a fun and entertaining adventure. XD
also I would almost argue that resi 6 got horror a bit better done than 5
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RE5 was largely just RE4.5 to me given a vast majority of the infected were still Las Plagas (albeit Type 2 and 3), with only 5 Uroboros-related things - 3 blobs of worms, the Reapers, and Wesker.
But yeah, I loved RE6 and beat all the campaigns numerous times. It was just so addicting to me, lol.
Cesare was Rodrigo’s son. Not his Nephew.
Imagine Not knowing Joel is being Offed in T.L.o.U. 2.
Jess usually does her own articles. She's narrating James Metcalfe's this time, hence any goofs that appear here.
@@KittyKatt_Luna80s
I actually Like Everyone at WhatCulture i dont have their Names Down but i also Like the Bearded Guy and the other Guy that makes Retro Videos most of the Time sort of the Gaming Historian of the Channel.
@@sheldoncooper8199 Jules Gill is the bearded bald guy. 😉
@@KittyKatt_Luna80s
Oh yeah i really identify with him. And his hate for Certain NES and SNES Games.
Joel and ellie villians? Did You guys really play the Game?
So many people just blindly take the fireflies at their word instead of reading the in game notes how they were planning to backstab the delivery guy, or use common sense about vaccine development. There was no excuse human sacrificing Ellie would even work in the first place. Might have produced a dud or had side effects making worse mutations or something.
Not exactly a villain, but Dishonored: Death of the Outsider turned the Outsider into a whiny teen with angst rather than the trickster baddie he was in Dishonored 1.
Skullface started in Peacewalker not ground zeros
Casually missing Derek’s obsession with Ada Wong 😶
I’m amazed that Arthas isn’t on this list, the stand out villain in Warcraft turned into nothing more than another puppet of another even bigger bad as part of a plan that not even the writers could figure out.
I wouldn't call Vaas ruined because he died early.
Fun video, but the title on YT doesn't match the in video one, might want to fix that, lol
Well, considering the end of Far Cry 6, Vaas might not be done just yet.
Waluigi was never initially made by Nintendo, only approved by them; that's why they dunk on him as they do. He was never an original property. They needed someone to pair Wario with the first Tennis game, which was made by a third-party company and published by Nintendo -- that third-party company was who designed Waluigi.
RE6 was bare minimal effort in terms of plot and its still better than re8
I played re6 after I watched transformers 4 or 5 which ever grimlock was in and when Derrick transforms into a trex I was busting up laughing think Leon was gonna scream "were giving you FREEEDOM"
What about RE8 and the whole premise of who you were going to face
Like with heroes, die a villain, or live long enough to become a watered-down after-though.
Nobody can defend their misprononciations anymore after this video. Just the first 2 entries prove they are fucking with us
Wait a minute. I am not convinced about the arguments about Simmons. Also, he didn't infect himself!
Lucien Fairfax comes to mind
Controversy aside, Joel (+Ellie) seemed like it was shoehorned in.
So no one is going to mention the Vaas DLC in FC6, or his post-credits teaser for a comeback? Nobody? Okay then.
Ubisoft can't hear your complaints about Vaas' screen time over all that money they made off of Farcry 3.
The pronunciation of Ceasare is hilarious
Waluigi doesnt get used because nintento didnt create him. The company that made mario tennis made him so wario had a partner
Never really understood the hype behind vaas personally. Juat kinda seemed like a crazy guy who was ineffective at killing the protagonist
Cesare Borgia was Rodrigo's son. Not nephew. Rodrigo was also a pedophile and had an incestuous relationship with his daughter Lucrezia (Cesare did as well) in the game.
Also, Simmons doesn't infect himself. He GETS infected by Carla Radames, aka Fake Ada (the one in the blue dress). Look it up if you don't believe me.
THE THUMBNAIL LOOKS LIKE AN ANGRY PRINCE HARRY XD
I hate Ellie so much in TLOU2. Her character has no depth. I don’t like the story in the game in general but they did Ellie dirty
I would have given at least a nod to Sylvanas Windrunner
Arthas was better
No Pyramid Head?
I don't know why but in my opinion Waluigi has always looked like he was strung out on meth and hadn't slept in 4-5 maybe even 6 weeks or so
What Telltale did with Thanos is correct though. Anyone that reads comics knows that Thanos is a borderline joke and that Marvel's best villain has always been Dr Doom. But keep it twisted for the movie going audience I guess
Is Jess aware of how hard she butchered the basic pronunciation of multiple names while recording this? Cesare Borgia was Rodrigo's son, not his nephew. Ellie and Joel were more than justified, the Fireflies were a militaristic cult of terrorists whose plan would not have worked. Simmons did not infect himself. It's ironic when you guys talk about layered, complex, and genuinely enthralling, three things this video is not. This channel makes such good content when it actually cares and tries. This is just disappointing.
Love these videos but BOY oh BOY are you wrong to put Joel/Ellie on this list. They didn’t destroy the characters at all, it was pure perfection.
Here we go again...Joel isn't a villain. Get off your high horse and get over it. It was an impossible decision you didn't have to make that you can Monday morning quarterback. As someone who lost my 9-year-old daughter in real life, I would have done the same thing.
We just going to skip over the fact that she butchered Cesare's name. It's Che-sery Jess come on man
You aren't a villain for saying that people can't kill someone to maybe make a cure. Everyone deserves their life.
And there's a difference between everyone is dealing with the fungus vs taking someone's life to make your life better. If you'll rationalize killing someone for any reason other than protection, then you'll be able to find a reason to take anyone's life.
not to mention, there are multiple problems with this cure plan:
1. vaccines can't cure fungal infections
2. this game takes place 20 years after the first outbreak, most resources are now gone and not as plentiful for mass vaccination
3. what is their plan to get this cure out, go to every QZ ignorant about the fact the Militia will kill them on sight and probably use this vaccine to maintain control
4. not to mention, people will still kill each other for supplies and will attempt to kill the Fireflies due to their reputation as terrorists
5. hostile groups like the Hunters, WLF, Seraphites, Cannibals, Rattlers, and etc. will still exist
6. how to are they gonna handle the whole "more than half of the population is infected or dead" sure you can't turn no more, but that doesn't mean they won't try to kill you and eat you
the game acts like once this cure is made, everything will return to how it was before the outbreak. This world is too damaged to be repaired
Indeed. There was no guarantee it would even work. But technically a vaccine isn’t a cure. Cures work after you get sick. Vaccines are supposed to be preventative
So by that logic, Joel is a villian. Luckily he got what he deserved.
@@key0777abby is a villain aswell
Vaas' death wouldn't have been nearly as bad if it weren't for the fact that Hoyt Volker was such a wet squib!
To the point that I couldn't even remember his name and had to look it up to make this comment.
Derek Simmons isn’t an iconic villain in the Resident Evil franchise. Albert Wesker is more of an iconic villain in the Resident Evil franchise. Heck, even NEMESIS from Resident Evil 3 Nemesis and the RE3 Remake is more iconic than Derek Simmons.
Probably want to look up some name pronunciations before releasing these videos! It's not "yuka yuka" it's "Ooka Ooka" (spelt Uka Uka), and it's not "Seesare Borgia" it's "Chesarey Borgia" (spelt Cesare).
How the hell did you miss pronounce uka-uka’s name
Prince Lacroix in Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines was the most disappointing main villain I recall. The man doesn't even put up a fight! And it is not like you could say that he's al brain and no brawn, because he's not that intelligent either. It makes you wonder how did he become prince of L.A. in the first place.
tiny tiger never hits legs 😂
Didn't Joel kill two guys after they gave him the information he needed to find Ellie and also kill Marlene? On top of everything in the Hospital, he is 100% the villian over Abby and started the whole conflict.
It's pretty clear that Joel had been an absolute horrible human being over the past twenty years before Ellie showed up. He hinted at it himself. Joel simply was the villain we would come to understand as we were in control of his actions. It made him relatable, sympathetic (to some). Though, I don't believe he started the conflict. Did he add to it? Oh yes, but he wasn't who initiated it. The Fireflies clearly had ill intent towards Ellie, and their...understanding...of science was downright risible. Abby herself displayed a serious lack of empathy, and in fact during her scene with Dina, appeared to relish the thought of killing her, AFTER knowing her circumstances. In a way, she's a dark reflection of both Joel and Ellie, though the writers fumbled the ball, and didn't clearly establish her with significant sympathetic traits. They dropped the ball.
That doesn't mean that Joel should be excused for his actions...Joel never cared about the cure, and while I will maintain that the Fireflies 'cure' was NEVER, EVER going to work, and was scientifically improbable...Joel didn't know that, couldn't have known that, and DIDN'T CARE. He'd screw over the world for his daughter, and never made an attempt to hide it...except to the one person who he NEEDED to be honest with...which ended up setting HER on a collision course with someone else with a grudge setting up a very depressing cycle of pain and revenge.
Good Job, Joel. Good Job.
"waluigi" "iconic"...does not compute...and does Firefly and thanos really count? They're comic book villains first and foremost
What did you think about this video after seeing the thumbnail?
Never mind Derek, the whole of re6 was the biggest gaming dissapointment of my life. Closely followed by re5.
Your face is the villain.
liquid snake!
02:58: No he didn't.
Joel/Ellie as villains? FFS...Gigantor was the clear villain, and the game used every cheap trick to get you to sympathize with her, which I did not, even the least little bit.
No one actually liked the plot those who say they did only liked it for woke points
Waluigi > All
What's up Jess?
I knew vaas would be number
That Thanos joke sucked
I love What Culture and gorgeous Jessica 💖🤩
The man behind the slaughter
1) Not to mention that they totally got tiny tigers species wrong. He is a tazmanian tiger, not a sebirian one.
2) Waluigi isn't a real character anyway. he is, what was it described? A mirror of a mirror? Also considering Warios anti-hero status, I can't really see him be friends with waluigi
3) Firefly was pretty cool in origin, yeah he was a small villains but yeah... those exist too, not every villian needs to be a big name... and as alfed once said, some people just want to see the world burn
4) I actually love Simmons, it's kinda funny that he just doesnt wanna die so easy and.... damn, he is a freakin meat-former (meat transformer), going from bullet dog, to t-rex zombie to freakin beelzebub. It's kind of hillariously awesome.
Why did she pronounce it "Yuka Yuka?"
Because she's an idiot?