Buying a Fifth Wheel RV? Can you turn tight? Watch this first!
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Great topic. There is very little info out there about the dance that must be choreographed among 5th wheel, cab, bedrail, toolbox/aux tank, hitch, etc.
I look at the way you measure and if you had an extended pin box which now places your trailer a foot further back in the box you are going to gain in your turning radius measuring from the pin box bolts to where the notch is for the corner does not do it justice. To do a 90° turn you need a 8' box so you have the 4' forward to protect the cab. I have a extended pin box as well as a sliding fifth wheel and a 6'-9" box I can almost get a 90° jack. Nice video
It all depends on your rig and your particular “best” setup. On my fuzion, i want a king size bed, so i need more room on the front area, I have a short bed ford. It would hit the cab if I didn’t utilize a pullrite superglide hitch. With the autoslide it doesn’t hit even at 90 degree jack- knife. I do have an rds diesel tank, but it is below the bed rails in front.
Jd after watching this video all i can think of is you would be an excellent spokesman for rv gooseneck manufacturers with towing. Additionally wish you were spokesman and tester for etrailer as well. Another excellent video
I just purchased a 2019 Rockwood 5th wheel with the Lippert Turning point hitch. It takes the turning point from the king pin to the point under the nose of the rv. Works great on my 2010 Dodge with a short box.
That's why I have an RDS aux tank/below rail toolbox so the tank is covered by my tonneau and no clearance concern.
Very informative should help a lot of people with this. You might lose a little room but can help in other ways.
I’ve been inside a lot of space craft rvs. My grandparents got one themselves. They can’t afford a semi so they got a dolly and hooks the dolly up to there dually Chevy Silverado. People takes vids pics on the high way. We got trapped in a snow storm on the high way and we had enough power to pull the camper still. Green lakes had no space craft camper. We were first lol we had cones to block road because it’s hard to back a space craft rv with a dolly on it. We don’t take the dolly off. We take it off the truck I push it until it’s at an angle. It has 6 slide outs it’s luxurious. Wish you could see it.
It's great that some companies have been doing this because I had a short bed 3/4 ton and loved the way it looked but traded it off because one reason was I broke my back glass out of it with my dads 5th wheel turning to sharp.
That's why I have a Reese revolution sidewinder so I don't have to worry about it!
Interesting, never even thought about it. Now I have to look at my truck/ 5th wheel combo. Thanks.
The Elkridge fifth wheel is that same way. I have a 6 foot and half bed and a above rail tool box and have no problem making a tight turn. But be cautious on making them tight turns by looking at your axles on your tailer see how bad they twist.
Looks like you won't be changing 5th wheels anytime soon..unless you give up an above rail toolbox.
They make flush mount tool boxes, which would work in your application. Not that you need it, you have a good set up. Things for me to think about. Thanks!!
Very informative. Glad to get all my info before I buy. Thanks
I’m always learning something on your channel- thanks
I've noticed that Open Range has a unique forward position pinbox and deep notch in the front cap which accommodates the truck cab as well as tool box.
Keep your space and get a below the bedrail toolbox. That way all you have to worry about is cab clearance.
Great topic and information! I would love to see a video on turning and backing w a 5th wheel bc i know its different then a bumper pull...same yet different.
Thanks for sharing this information JD. You keep adding features to your 5th wheel you’re not going to be able to afford to get that new one you’re on the hunt for.
Seriously!
I agree with clearance issue on each 5th wheel.
Now get a axle scale on the rear axle of your truck with each 5th wheel and you will see why the tool box needs removed. Hitch placement is very important.
If you dont have an axle scale, cat scales at truck stop will measure all axles and give you a even better answer.
Wanted to see the spacecraft
Tight turns are rough on the suspension and tires too. Backing the old (2015) 5'er toy hauler into the driveway was borderline scary. Axles shifting, tires scrubbing on the pavement, etc.
JD, thanks for another great review of our locks.
thanks for answering our questions 👌
Get the Reese Revolution and you don’t need to worry about overhang!
I have the 2020 keystone raptor and the 20k reese goose pin box, with my f450 I can turn past 90.
2016 f250 short box with low profile toolbox pulling a 2017 jayco northpoint with the reese goosebox i haven’t had issues hitting my toolbox...... yet ...... can also get it in about a 75 ish degree angle but thats pushing it
A bit of false advertising in that you also have an extended Pinbox which appears to give you another 12”. I like how far your box extends. 👍
forgot my key to my puck lock, I wont say how but had that thing off in less than 1 minute. Was sure disappointed and i would never base my security on one again.
I love mine, I have one on both my trailers.
A lock is only meant to keep a honest person honest.
Great videos. I was wondering if you can talk about how selling an RV on consignment works and should one use that or sell it on your own.
Thanks.
Contact with Toolbox.....found out the hard way. If I had a low profile toolbox, I would be fine or if I didn’t have the 110 gallon fuel tank in front of the toolbox, I would be ok. I can easily make a 90 degree turn but as in my current park, if the main road is narrow and you have to drop off the side while backing into your spot and become unlevel, my toolbox definitely makes contact. I shall be looking into swapping out for a low profile toolbox soon.
Clearance is important to me because my truck is a welding rig, and has a welding machine up against the window. The welding machine is almost as high as the cab.
If it's a long bed, maybe you can get a slider hitch made for short beds to give you more room. But, the further back the pin weight is the more upward force on the front of the truck. But it'll just depend on what truck and trailer it is.
Once again great info. Thank you!
Is there anything stopping someone from unbolting the goosebox from the 5th wheel and taking the whole thing? That ftknox lock looks really nice!
you can open everything
Brandon That would be a lot of manual labor. These 20K Reese Gooseboxes are definitely not light. I think there would be easier “targets” nearby. If you mean someone simply wanting to take the Goosebox for their own use....no, not really anything stopping them from that, except again, a good deal of manual labor.
I'd love to own a Space Craft
Wouldn’t a flush mount tool box be a better option overall? From A: a security perspective of having it undercover & B: allowing ANY 5th wheel a 90deg turn?
Great product, I hope they make others for other hitches. You do great work.
We do have coupler specific locks for most trailers and would welcome you checking out our locks @ ftknoxlocks.com.
Ughhhh...so much to learn. What is the most recommended hitch for a 6.9 bed ? I really want a 5th wheel.
Trade the Truck, get a Dually with a 8ft bed. Thats what most people end up doing anyway.
Now a lock for the pins that hold the Reese on
Great video! Thank you! I asked you this question a month or so ago! We happen to be looking at the fuzion 429 and we have the same truck you do with the tool box! I’ll be going down to the dealership to measure the front cap tomorrow now. I’ve got a feeling the front cap won’t clear the tool box based on your video.
I wouldn't think the location of the rear bolts on the pinbox relative to the front corner of the house is much of an accurate way to determine turning clearance unless all the hitch assemblies are the same length from rear bolts to pin centerline. If the hitch extends more forward from the pinbox the rear bolts relative to the front corner can be more in line.
Agreed, horrible referance point
However his measurments comparing 3 and 4 feet to the drop behind the truck are even more irrelevant then the pinbox mounting bolt
I agree with your new lock
You are with only keeping the lazy and honest people from taking your trailer
A professional thief would remove the 8 bolts and leave your hitch where your trailer was
How far do you really need to turn? I can't imagine ever needing to get a 90 degree turn with a fifth wheel.
Good info. Thanks learn a few things
Thank you :-)
When you were explaining the turning clearance on you goose neck on your chaperel you made note of the Reflection which appeared to also have a goose neck however my Reflection it comes with a 90 degree fifth wheel hitch so I can take my truck 90 degrees with all the clearance required. If you want photos please in form and my Reflection is a 230RL That is one of their selling points.. RickM117 ...Rick Madison
He was saying it can go 90° but maybe not with a toolbox on?
Pretty cool, lot to consider on my next 5th wheel, more so because I have a short bed
You should look at for the trailer side a sidewinder for the pin. I've got a 6'6" box and don't have a sliding hitch and it allows me to do over 90° turns easy
@@sanity8311 I've got the Andersen ultimate and it works great. I will look into that as well
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Very good review
Unfortunately, with the quality of modern battery grinders etc, can cut those off no problem if the lot has poor security. I've had to do it a number of times. We own too many trailers and a 5th wheel.
I use a low profile tool box at front of truck bed and have a slider. No prob. To me the key is to measure everything from every angle.
BTW, you don't seem to use your RV much or even the truck for truck stuff.
If you're basing my use of the RV and truck off my TH-cam videos, then you have a very limited scope of how often I use both :)
Great Video I enjoy all of your videos I currently pull a freedom express 231rbds travel trailer I am considering upgrading to a Chapparal 298 rls fifth wheel I have a 2019 Ford F-250 short box 63/4 ft I assume that I should probably get a slider hitch for this arrangement. Would you agree?
When I watch your videos you remind me of Wilson W. Wilson, any relation?
My tool box sits pelow the top of the bed so my 5 th wheel wasn't even close
Very interesting 😎👌
that lock looks like something they'd use if you parked it illegally
Who would steal a camper except to put down in the woods in live in it that's the only way to get by with that.
Cool
can a turning point pin box be used with a PullRite super glide
Was wondering what would be the best 4 season toy hauler (5th wheel) because i do quite a bit of work in the new England area
Does floor plan make a difference or is it just brand difference.
They actually steal these things .. there so BIG ! Where do you hide the dam thing ?????
Have you ever used a Reese Sidewinder?
Do you have any videos on the new rhino box?
If someone's using power tools, no realistically usable lock will keep them out.
Any lock is only meant to deter honest people and hopefully make dishonest ones look for an easier target.
People escape from maximum security prisons with just their wit and a few every day supplies, if people think a lock will do anything they're not very smart lol.
JD...is the old first gen unit of yours available for sale by you? Also, now the old Ft Knox lock to go along with it!
Thanks, great videos!
I'll be holding on to it for a while
Does it work on the torsion flex as the Gen Y?
Would you recommend a bumper pull or 5th wheel camper for a 1500 pickup with a short box 6 1/4 according to the manufacturer of my truck I have the factory tow package motor is a 5.7 hemi thanks
Half tons and 5th wheels don't mix.
So, your 5th wheel or similar would be a good option for a Mega Cab?
Would be good to check, but probably
I have a 1500 Crew Cab right now, but not ideal gearing-3.21. My wife and I plan to do some camping with our kids while they're young...so I'm starting the learning process. Probably gonna start out with a small travel trailer with my current truck before I start looking at the big 5th wheels and such. @@BigTruckBigRV
If youre stupid enough to want to steal an RV, youre not smart enough to figure out how to cut that.
Should would have been great to have an Engineering explanation of what to measure to determine if you can clear instead of pointing at this and that. This video is useless.
More like u wish the guy had time to stop and talk to u