This is the WEIRDEST Bass Drum Ever! (Ergo Sonic - Product Review by EMC)
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But what about the Ergo Sonic bass drum - enors?
Ergo Sonic benors!
He did that
@@Corn-us74
Better version of flubs in my opinion
Agreed!
Nah, the whole point of flubs is not sound projection, but getting experience marching with a drum.
@ehrengross true, but I feel like when your gonna have flubs, you should at least hear it a little bit, and get the full experience of a marching drum. Like u know what I mean?
@@colinhill1417 but bass drums project sound a lot, maybe if you use the 14 inch one, put a tenor head and muffle it a lot, but at that point, it's just a normal flub
@ehrengross yeah, just use the 14 inch one, and maybe a second tenor. Just do that and make sure they sound good and have the new members get better at stuff.
Wait till he finds out that the Point Pleasant Boro high school marching band uses these every year as their regular bass drums
The headless sound clean and consistent.
I'm not in the drum line at my school but you made me love it thank you
I love drums because there are so many weird ones. I want to buy them but I know they’re expensive af
The ergos with the bottom heads off sound fantastic
Dude these were showcased back at some convention in 2011 and I asked the rep if he thought they’d catch on. He said “the tuba became the sousaphone, it’s time the base drum evolves” 😂😂
My high school marched these for years. We loved them! Eventually changed to standard marching bass drums. We actually played White Boy Smooth one year for our percussion ensemble and used them!!!
King Gong approves of those bass drum decals....also the dive gets a 7.9/10
I want that traditional vs match discussion and you gotta do it with Aged Out Reacts
I'm agree on the sound, but i loved marching normal bass and just something about facing a different direction
The German Company Troyandrums has formerly built such models under the brand „V-Drums“. I do not know if these are still produced.
The headless version sounded crispy I like it. I’d be interested to see a 26 like that 😂
Yeah, these are like the old "Stingray" snares from the 90's my old drum and baton corps played
The Racine Kilties DBC tried using these in 2015, luckily I'm a tenor player but the 2 biggest complaints were they did not project AT ALL and the top head was angled towards the player so they're technique was jacked.. These things were awful haha
It’s more obvious with bass 3-4 how much more projection standard orientation bass drums are getting(at least from the video
What do you mean the "technique was all jacked" ? The optimal technique is determined by the instrument. Obviously the technique will be slightly different than the technique for a flat drum but it can't be any less ergonomic than a sideways bassdrum.
@@tebby24Have you ever played/carried one?
thanks so much for uploading. these videos really entertain me while helping me study for my journey to dci. thank you
You're diving again! That's awesome.
I was gonna say I way preferred the sound of the traditional bass drums, then I thought the other ones sounded good with the heads off, and then I changed my mind again because I kinda think they sound sorta like a hollow tube. Which, I mean, I guess they are. They do look cool, but I think the traditional bass drum setup sounds just a bit better.
Yesterday my school got the highest score in Class-A for the WGI regional happing yesterday.
Flub nation is taking over the bassline!
Yeah ... I wasn't fast enough but ....
This is video #17 of requesting Eric to do another "Behind the Gock Block" Episode.
The last episode was 10-20-2020! It's time for Eric to bring back all of his characters!
hi drumgranma
@@LeChoppaP Sup!!!!
Being a drummer with only 50 years of experience, I have absolutely ZERO ability to judge your setup! You put a lot of work into that video, I appreciate your efforts to bring us the bizarre.
I do have one question which wasn't covered in this excellent video. It looks like a standard upright bass drum is closer to the center of mass of the drummer. Being further away from the body, Is the Ergo Sonic more difficult to march and maneuver?
You should mount the ergo drums like tenors and remove the bottom heads just for fun then play jig 2
I was taught match grip in HS. I noticed college and DCI do traditional. I started to join the Cincinnati Pride in the 90s when they were going to start back up, but I couldn't play traditional so I didn't go back.
These remind me of Stingray marching drums. I love the sound of Stingray drums so much. Best transients on the quads and bass (although their basses were normal shaped). The angle snare was a little too thin for me though though.
Marched Stingrays in '91 Westshoremen. Loved that logo!
i wonder if you ported both heads on a traditional bass drum if you'd get the same clarity and focus of the headless ergo sonics?
They have their place, parades and football games they’d be fun. But I agree, the identity of bass drum is in its horizontal stroke
OH MY GOSH. THESE SHOULD TOTALLY BE USED! I'll miss spins while marching though .
I'm no bass drum oficionado but that lick with the ErgoSonics with no resonant head sounded cleanest and best in my opinion. How long have these been a thing?
It's so weird. I was just at WGI Richmond Regional and I was wondering what a curved drum would sound like. EMC always coming through.
Just as epic as all EMC content. Keep it up!
For reference, I'm listening to this a set of very nice JBL studio monitors. I liked the sound of the Ergo Sonic drums ONCE you gave them some needed TLC.
*8's:* 4:52 Normal - 4:33 Ergo - 6:17 Headless
*Lick:* 7:01 Normal - 6:50 Ergo - 7:12 Headless
*Mega 8's:* 7:58 Normal - 8:18 Ergo - 8:39 Headless
*Mega Lick:* 9:01 Normal - 9:31 Ergo - 10:02 Headless
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00:00 *Intro*
01:01 🔉Demo: Out of the box
01:23 Maintenance
01:56 🔉Demo: Tuned-up
02:08 Frisbee & Trampoline
02:33 *Marching*
03:06 🔉Demo: Marching
03:26 🔉Demo: Trampoline demo
03:36 *Test setup*
03:53 🔉Demo: All individually
04:14 *8's*
04:33 🔉Demo: Ergo Sonic 8's
04:52 🔉Demo: Normal Basses 8's
05:11 Articulation, Portholes, Headless
06:17 🔉Demo: Headless 8's
06:36 *Choppier Lick*
06:50 🔉Demo: Ergo Sonic Lick
07:01 🔉Demo: Normal Basses Lick
07:12 🔉Demo: Headless Lick
07:22 *Sound thoughts*
07:41 *Mega Marching Drumset*
07:58 🔉Demo: Normal Basses Mega 8's
08:18 🔉Demo: Ergo Sonic Mega 8's
08:39 🔉Demo: Headless Mega 8's
09:01 🔉Demo: Normal Basses Mega Lick
09:31 🔉Demo: Ergo Sonic Mega Lick
10:02 🔉Demo: Headless Mega Lick
10:32 Mega thoughts
11:27 *Will they take over?*
13:02 Outro
3:09 Sheet music is missing "Turn into a ghost" on 4th measure
There's also going to be electronic marching bass drums too.
the first time I ever saw the ergo sonic bass drums they were being used by a Special Needs Drum Corp
I would try to find a mesh / silent style head for the resonant side of the Ergo drums.
Btw this is the best your bass splits have ever sounded! Keep up the great work 😎
glenn highshool needs these
Another advantage is that it’s easier to learn bass drum flams on because a flam on a bass drum usually is hard to learn because it’s just slightly different than a horizontal head
Not too dissimilar, sonically. I really like the volume/tone consistency with the ergos directing all their sound toward the audience versus half. Really neat idea. I definitely like the design and thought process behind it. And I even like the looks. It’s a break from tradition to be sure, but not egregiously so. Tasteful and well executed, IMO, but perhaps a bit complex from a manufacturing standpoint. Curious about long-term durability with those joints (if you stated their age, I didn’t catch it).
It seems like these would make it a hell of a lot easier to listen in, for both the base line and entire line. Just a thought.
It’s like a hybrid between the old tritoms and flubs. I kind of dig it
Dang, that is a great design and they sound great without the outside heads! Maybe I'll get them for my marching band. My students can't seem to *not* run people over with the bass drums lol
Editing skills on point !
Headless drums sound great, i wouldn’t be upset if lines marched with them
could easily see someone slapping a mesh head on the bottom if they still wanted the look of a bottom head.
I like the traditional drums because they have more variety of sound. A hit with your left or right hand gives you different things, vs all hits sound the same on the ergo sonic it just depends on where you look.
You know the next step, we need a Tenor out of those drums
That frisbee was under stable 😂
i remember seeing those at my drumline competition and i was so confused on what those were
I don't really like the sound of these. I don't know how to explain it any better, but you can 100% hear every degree of the angled drums. The sound sounds like it's been bent just like the drums. The way it projects just doesn't have that punch you want from basses. ESPECIALLY when playing spits. The headless ergosonics have some potential for recording though. Most marching bass recordings cut out a lot of that extra bass resonance so having that option for a video or recording seems useful
Kind of like the old North tenors (in shape) used by BD and maybe Defenders?
Rite of Spring 4:36 4:44 4:54 5:03 6:20 6:28 7:58 8:19 8:39
0:37 You wanna rethink that? 😅
diving came out of left field 😂
Which means it fit perfectly into this video!
i was going through the video downplaying those drums, and then the lick at 7:12 happened and my jaw just dropped. WAY impressed with the drums with only 1 head on
I think these would work well in a tribal or post-apocalyptic themed show where the instruments are made to look like they were cobbled together from scraps.
These gave me nightmarish flashbacks to the late 1980s and early 1990s when there was a short lived collection of marching toms that were fiberglass (I think) and curved on the bottom to redirect the sound forward. I remember they looked heavier than 'bleep' and I'm so glad they died a quick death and people just use simple sound reflectors instead of those horrid things. I can't find any pictures of them and several groups in DCI used them. I want to say they were Slingerland, but that may just me inserting a name I know.
Those were North Drums they were heavy af. You can still find some North Drum set on used drum sites.
2:09 very inspirational quote
I really enjoy how only one sounds like a bass drum. The rest are toms.
Ergo sonic 8s sounds awesome with headphones at 4:34
Do marching band people listen to marching band music in their free time? Like for pleasure
I also broke my friend's tooth out with a drum head frisbee. 😢
Lol these drums are the exact same ones from my school, we sold them and I guess EMC bought them!
I think these are for looks. Also, it's difficult to make a good drummer sound bad. you crushing licks on anything sounds pretty good.
Is that SCV’s bass cadence you’re using to test with?
The headless ergo do sound good, but they don’t look as cool as the traditional bass drum. 😜 Great video, Eric!
As someone who went to the same competitions as Everett (the school in these videos) the Ergos are superior!
7:22 Emc jumpscare (very scary)
Wow those seriously sound fuckin great man
EHS BABY THATS MY OLD HIGHSCHOOL
Sound ranking (my opinion):
Tied for 1st - Ergo Basses with and without reso heads
Distant 3rd - traditional marching basses
The Ergo drums just had a richness that is missing in most marching basses these days. So many dumlines care SO much about showing of crazy chops that they are willing to tune and muffle the basses in a way that is more articulate but sounds like choked out cardboard boxes. You can hardly call them basses if they are nearly atonal. It becomes difficult to categorize them as the bass part of the battery if the low frequency tonal information is almost completely stripped out.
Whether it was tuning, muffling, or just the design of the ergo drums, they seemed, in this video, to have a rich sustain that was fantastic. I liked them with and without the reso heads, so maybe a ported head would be just the right balance between. It would be great if you found your inner rdavidr, and let us hear the results.
Already I can tell they really are louder than the bass drums in your other videos. They’re also sharper and less dull. The normal drums sound smooshed.
Good Morning! This is video 1 of me requesting tambourine tenors.
What, you're not going to turn them into a set of Ergo Benors? Or is that the next video?
All I know is if a dci drumline had them without a bottom head, the clarity would be unmatched
I may be biased but i definitely think the original bass drums are easier to march with. You dont need to see to hit your dot!
9:01 it sounded like the cadence Pepsi
11:41 what is this argument? We prefer things that are more difficult? I think this is just a stupid way of saying that we have developed an aesthetic around the horizontal bass drums and it is hard to break away from that.
I've seen these. You are correct- sort of a weird concept.
I know I’m a little lat, but this is video 7 of me asking you to make a bass drum a snare drum, maybe snases?
They kinda give me Animusic vibes,
kinda looks like the Kick from the Drum Machine vid.
Regular drums by far. Though marching with the Ergo would have been nice… Specially if the field was dodgy from the weather !
Emc, any tips to join a dci corps?
Inb4 north tenors are mentioned
do they only make them in 4 sizes?
Overall I'd say no but for a one-off or gag then I could see it being used to make people intrigued or confused.
OH yea, RDavidR did do drum hacks... Lately he's been playing weird cymbals, so I actually forgot...
Fancy flubs. Sassafras approved!
The headless Ergo Sonics definitely sound better than with the resonant head, but they still have this weird tone going on that I really don’t like.
wtf why does headless sound so good???
EMCDiving channel when?
Even on my mind tier earbuds, I think the ergo sonics are certainly much cooler, and sounds better (tho bias might have been happening)
I need this
Lego tenors?
As my dad would say, "those are the worst sounding drums I've ever heard!" 😂
That’s a no from me dawg, the look of the marching bass drum is iconic, there’s no replacing them
Video 194 of asking for a Video of you playing exactly 69420 Notes
226 to go
My high school has these bass drums
They look like those pipe things from bioshock