WSX News, Electric Dirt Bikes, & More! | Tony Alessi on the SML Show - Part Two
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
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For this week's episode of the SML Show, host Donn Maeda sits down with Tony Alessi for part two to discuss his thoughts on electric dirt bikes, some FIM World Supercross news, and plenty more. Plugin those headphones and enjoy this week's episode of the Swapmoto Live Show with Tony!
Mixing gas and kicking ass 😆
Pros and cons to both gas and electric. Personally, I will always prefer gas over electric
I’m guessing it will be like the car paint evolution. It’s not that the solvent paint doesn’t work, it’s that all the r and d is going towards the waterborne. The same thing will happen with mx bikes. They’ll pour all their resources into the electric and the gas won’t get the attention
Make 2 strokes great again!!
Right
World gp is talking about it. Actually some cool stuff related to bringing it back to rider skill instead of the tech craziness they have now. From what I've been reading, there are some absolutely brutal new 2 stroke engines being developed that are cleaner burning and as always more efficient at making power than the 4strokes. I remember the 500cc 2stroke Superbike and man that was a wild era. Imagine them now with actual development being done.
Tony has always been ALL IN his passion for our sport and willingness to do whatever it takes to help his riders can’t be matched (in my opinion) great Dad and team manager ❤🙏
Electric is NOT the future
Remember when nobody thought a 4 stroke could be a competitive race bike? You bet electric is the future!
@@leerjet18it’s not that we don’t think electric won’t be competitive, they’ll definitely be competitive. But electric takes a lot away from the entire experience. Hearing the bikes is a huge part of this sport. I think a lot of people look past that or don’t realize how important sound is. It’s definitely going to take some getting used to, that’s for sure.
Yes I’m sure when Honda has Trey canard fly to Japan to race an electric bike it’s just to get people like you to cry and run out and buy a two stroke. Even though they don’t make them and never wanted too..😜😂🤷🏾♀️
Yes I’m sure when Honda has Trey canard fly to Japan to race an electric bike it’s just to get people like you to cry and run out and buy a two stroke. Even though they don’t make them and never wanted too..😜😂🤷🏾♀️
If he says right one more time….😂👊🏼
Bring back Frappy Mike and LoTW!
Most Supercross and Motocross fans will leave the sport if they go electric. I get that the little kids like riding electric bikes. But that doesn’t have anything to do with fans attending pro races.
Hes right tho Progress doesn't care.
Internet when doug Henry ride the fourstanker. Everyone was crying. Now. Here we go again
What a totally uneducated comment. Have been to all kinds of E bike races and they are awesome. Anyone that would leave for something so simple like that is a complete fake fan anyways 🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂Grandpa’s have to move on
@@michaeldill7620 Yep! The biggest thing that people in MX and SX fear....Change🤣🤣
It’s true most of the fan base will leave. You casuals won’t understand.
Yeah you wouldn’t find me on an electric bike unless I’m given one
Yeah, just like all the other morons that have said the exact same thing until they have ridden one. Real original 🤦🏻♂
I don’t want gas bikes to go away. When they figure out the battery that will fully charge in like 10 to 15 minutes and a range comparable to gas bikes. That’s when electric will really turn people’s minds around. Battery tech like the fast charge and slow discharge capacitor will be big.
Gas bikes aren't totally going away. They are an addition not a replacement for quite some time. They are just another tool and huge growth area for the sport. There are some disciplines of the sport that an E bike can't be used for. Now could E bikes take over for Supercross? 100% especially since it's mainly just an advertising platform anyways and that's where most of the R&D will be focused.
He describing the Kentucky Derby
Most of the kids start on electric. 30 years ago no one wanted 4 strokes.
he needs to have a few more pizzas if he thinks ev's are the future.
Or maybe you need to check and see that the Varg is the #1 singular selling bike now. Sounds more like you are the pizza boy
Ive been riding and racing more than 40 years and I have several bikes. All I want to ride now is my Stark Varg...it is that much better to ride than my other bikes it is ridiculous. I don't even want to ride my other bikes any more, they just seem like antiquated technology now and are so much harder to ride.
At my age I am past the point of caring about any emotional attachment to the sound or smell of a gas bike...I just like to ride, not interested in watching other people ride...anything that makes riding easier, safer and more fun because I can go faster, is going to have my attention. The Varg ticks all the boxes.
We can race them here in Australia..even in the pro mx nationals. Im racing mine for the first time this weekend at a regional race in the mx1 c class, so against the 450's. I am limited to 60 hp and have to put the phone app into mx 1 race mode b4 I go to the start line which will lock it from going higher than 60hp for 12 hours and the officals at the race will be checking it.
It will be interesting and fun
The Genie is out of the bottle now and theres no stopping it...every time a rider tries one of these things for the first time, you have another rider that will likely buy one asap. Many will no doubt have the intention of keeping and still riding their gas bikes, but from what Im seeing posted online by Varg owners like me, that idea quickly goes out the window. You just find you are forced to ask yourself do I really even wanna ride that thing anymore?
I only ride motocross, the varg is a motocross bike, not an enduro bike and the battery range is more than adequate for me....everyone's mileage will vary..
That's because you are old
how much they pay you to tell this story
@@buffmuff6153 yeah maybe, maybe you should ride one and find out for yourself
@@buffmuff6153 What a totally uninformed comment. What you meant to say is you have never ridden one and are totally clueless.
Sometimes people want to feel, also a challenge and build to skill sets, not everyone is a liberal and wants autopilot
Quit saying right right right
Stop pushing electric crap on us!! No one is going to watch electric dirt bike races 🤘🤘
Electric isn’t it.. I dnt even like how we’re not freak kick starting a dirt bike anymore that’s half the fing fun pulling that kicker out know ur about to roll
heres my question.
normal weekend see's 1000+ bikes.
1000 bikes charging a weekend how much fossil energy -- like oil, coal and natural gas would be used compared to 1000 bikes running normal gas.
id bet. 50-75x more at least. reason why electric car sales and government plans to switch over have halted, its now "hybrids" that are considered better since you can get 2x the mileage out of the same fuel as a normal car. instead of burning 10x the fuel to charge a car to go the same distance.
electric is a gimmick concept that went to far and stark make you pay a monthly subscription to have access to race modes on a bike youve already paid for. clown show
stark quote about new app coming for already sold bikes that will require a subscription to use. "This BETA release offers a glimpse into our soon-to-come, Full Pro-Subscription, which promises even more innovative features and advancements in the future of motorcycle racing.
Stay tuned for updates as we continue to push the boundaries of technology and performance."
Totally uneducated comments. First off, the Varg has nothing to do with green energy. Second the subscription is mainly for the race mode to support transitioning to the race series. It is not required. Go do some more research before making even more stupid comments. Varg is just one bike as well and there are plenty others in development that will drive competition just like any other product 🤦🏻♂
Don't agree. Just because the bikes are faster everyone won't go to that. 2 stroke 500s were the fastest. Most people never wanted to race 500 class. There's such a thing as law of diminishing returns. Too much power is not usable power. Do ebikes have gears and a clutch? Would everyone want to race an ebike just because it's faster? Look at MTBs. Those ebikes are clearly faster than regular mountain bikes, but all the pros are still racing World Cup mountain bike races on pedal powered bikes, not ebikes.
🤣🤣🤣There are different classes of MTB racing you can't mix them 🤣🤣E bikes are fully adjustable that's how they will have multiple classes. The GNCC for E MTB's is massive. Of course there are no gears LOL that's the main advantage. There are some with clutches and some without. You absolutely don't need one though. Having all brakes on the handlebars is also a huge benefit. The Varg which is the top seller now doesn't have one but others do. Sounds like you are clueless on them to be making such uneducated comments. They aren't implying that they are going to replace all ICE bikes he is talking about the professional level. Just like mountain biking the same is true with dirt bikes. Almost everyone that has an electric has a legacy bike as well.
Why does everyone who talks about electric bikes sound like they are all reading off the same script?
Stupid naysayers. There’s a lot of them out there.
Because most that talk against electric bikes are totally clueless about them. Since they are so uninformed they all say the same totally lame and irrelevant things.
@kurtheidelbach I was referring to the ones who are pushing the electrics as the best thing since sliced bread. But I do agree it goes both ways with the argument.
Personally I don't see the upside to say the stark. Is it fast? Ya. But the cost associated with these bikes is out of hand. They still require maintenance, just a different variant. Ie, gear box oil, coolant, modules for days etc. I'm curious as to how these bikes actually hold up under regular use. If new cars have taught me anything. It's that electrical systems these days are throw away parts that go bad often. Gas powered bikes have there maintenance as well. But just running numbers between the 2, the electric are way costlier. A replacement battery is 3k for example. Charging stand 1k. And then the pay to play subscription stuff to unlock the full power of the motor just brings BMW vibes lol. And honestly I don't see new ride areas opening because of them being quite. It ain't about the noise other than an excuse at racetrack. The government doesn't want us out in the back country on bikes at all. Hell, you get in trouble for walking off path these days. Imo it's more of a control mechanism. Mandate electric and ban gas as they're trying to do her in CA. Just means less people on bikes. And less places to ride in the long run. If people like them let the market decide. It shouldn't be force fed as the only alternative with no room for anything else. Companies like Toyota are going away from electric. Leaning on hybrid and other fuel sources for many logical reasons. I just really don't like the force fed propaganda. And honestly it goes for both sides of the coin.
@@root12510 There isn't anyone pushing electric bikes they are simply be offered by consumer demand. Like I said see comment above. People know nothing about them. No benefits?🤣🤣🤣People are getting all kinds of seat time on electric bikes during the week after school and work while I'm driving 1-2 hours on a weekend. There are all kinds of comparative information for maintenance from the Alta and Freeride. Bikes with over 500 hours and operating like new from a battery and powerplant perspective. The Varg is overall much better too. Of course there is still basic chain, shock, fork maintenance etc. That's common sense. The cost isn't much more than a KTM initially and costs will come down with all the bikes in development just like with any other product. No air filter and oil changes after every ride. Just wash it and lube the chain. All sorts of stories with tons of time on the bikes without anything but positive things to say. The only total naysayers are the ones that haven't ridden one. We aren't talking about cars that's not even a comparable topic and a very common idiotic comparison. You have a warped thought process because you live in CA. Nobody is forcing anything the free market is deciding and that's why the Varg is the bestselling single bike with over 20,000 sold. That being said almost everyone that owns an E bike owns ICE bikes as well they are additional tools.
I’m with you Toni 110 percent.Electric is here no turning back.
My question is what are they going to do with 100’s of millions of waste and bad batteries? I’m not against change but something about this stinks!!!!!!
Why don’t you research the recycling facilities
At the moment they can’t do much with them.
I stopped going to pro races when Two-Strokes were phased out. I don't see electric changing that. I still own and ride Two-Strokes. I don't see electric changing that.
They aren't making them for old people like you. Things evolve and many people fear change.
@@kurtheidelbach It's not fear my friend. I am a trained electrical engineer, and am currently working as a network engineer. Technology does not scare me, in fact the technology of these machines excites me. But that is where it stops. I prefer the feel, sound, and smell of a Two-Stroke. I can almost tolerate a well tuned four-stroke, except for the pregnant duck fart exhaust note. But silence? Rheostat throttles? No thanks.
@@moto814 That's the same stupid comments many have made. Comments are like a broken record. Then they ride one and everything changes all of a sudden. Even hardcore haters. There hasn't been anyone that hasn't been totally blown away from the Varg that I have seen. Most rating it as the best bike they have ever ridden and that's coming from people that have ridden multiple models from all brands. That's why there are choices though and why they are making them for others to enjoy though.
@@kurtheidelbach I've ridden an Alta. Have yet to ride a Varg, but I am hoping to soon. I have been riding for over 40 years, and have owned and ridden many machines from many manufactures (even quite a few that are no longer around... I do so miss my Butaco's.) I don't begrudge anyone who likes to ride electric, I was just stating my opinion. Sorry, I forgot that critical thought is not allowed on the internet anymore. My apologies good sir.
@@moto814 Yes, I have all kinds of varieties of bikes as well. The Varg is definitely a different league over the Alta. Sure, critical thinking is awesome but many do it without having information or experiences.
Maybe at the pro level. But not for long if fans dont buy tickets
There will be plenty of real fans of the sport that but tickets LOL
Ticket sales will plummet if Supercross and motocross goes electric.
@@jeepernj99 Totally fake news!
Electric baby, let’s go. I’m in. Tony is an insider and knows way more about the industry than the naysayers clowns. It’s going to happen, the details will be worked out soon. Listening to all the naysayer clowns is pretty funny though, keep entertaining me.
He’ll yeah kill the sport 💪
Average joe cannot fix an electric vehicle themselves the future is not electric
That’s the point you aren’t working on them all the time LOL. And yes, there will be plenty of support. I hate to surprise you but the average Joe isn’t fixing their 4T’s in mass numbers now LOL
My buddy had to replace the motor on his Stark. We had to take the entire bike apart. It only took 5 different wrenches and took like 4 hrs. It was super easy. I posted a video of it.
@@Gowza_809 Stark has also done a pretty good job of posting videos for all the basic general maintenance items.
I don't think its the future, but I think its part of the future. Not just electric.
Electric vehicles didnt last in the 30s when they thought it was the thing... Here we are in 2024….. no difference 🤣
What a stupid rationale. No nothing has changed since then 🤣🤦♂. Electric vehicles (cars/trucks) and motorcycles aren't even in the same use case anyways.
@@kurtheidelbach they still suck today like they did all them years ago.. let's spend a bunch of money on stuff we already know 🤣🤯
@@kurtheidelbach not to mention we already have a electric grid that can't withhold the usage of today's demands. So let's throw some cars on there. It won't overload it or anything. What happened to common sense. So why doesn't Joe burden and his criminal friends drive ev cars and what not. Oh yeah. Don't do as I do... Do as we say. Big brother looking out for ya..
Electric vehicles is a backwards concept
Yeah, a huge growth area for the sport is backwards 🤦♂🤦♂Here's your sign!
@@kurtheidelbach just dont forget ur desiel generator where ever u go . And make sure save thousands for your replacement battery just incase. The shit isnt going to work or be practical
like the ice motor for any vehicle.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
🤣🤣🤣👍 Sure........
Such an educated an informative comment 🤦♂
Kurt are you going to reply to every comment?. 😂😂
@@jeepernj99 Just the stupid uninformed ones like yours
It would kill the sport.
LOL, Yeah right. Another totally clueless person