How Microsoft ruined Skype
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What happened to Skype?
All of a sudden, video calls have become a part of our daily lives. From university classes and business meetings to birthdays and yoga. Online is the new normal and will be for a while. Fortunately, there are plenty of options: Zoom, Meet, and Microsoft’s own Teams. But, there’s a name that seems to have disappeared. A name, mind you, that no so long ago was the go-to program for video calls.
What happened to Skype? It’s safe to say that, if all of this happened, say, in 2010, we would’ve been Skyping. But now, we’re doing anything but Skyping. What happened? We’ll tell you, in this episode of Company Forensics.
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0:00 - Intro
1:00 - The origins
3:59 - Stability and growth
6:43 - The new era
9:30 - It’s the end of Skype as we know it
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dude, they bought it as an accelerator for TEAM and for the patents
Your explanation is a bit of a simpleton
I never heard that "Teams" existed until today.... I think Microsoft is not doing a good job there either.
P
When travelling abroad I always make sure to get Skype credit. It's super handy if I ever need to call my bank or doctors when abroad.
I just clicked on the video to say why the fuck is this existing in the first place. I never understand why someone wanted to use this. TS and now its Discord time, babe. Whats Zoom anyway? Just the same thing as skype. Not useful at ALL compared to the rest of the programs who are older and doing a way better job.
Imagine having a 20 year head start to dominate video calls/conferences before the pandemic and still lose to zoom.
@DUKE LANGUAGE CENTER
chill man
It's true
@DUKE LANGUAGE CENTER shut up I'm 16 now but i was using skype when i was 10
wow
@@nore5888 They're probably talking about kids under 10 or something like that. I'm 17 and practically all of my classmates should know of skype.
I have never heard about Zoom before 2020. Now my university uses it and everybody at wallstreet is loving its stock.
Same here
Google meet is so much better than all of this... tbh
My university uses Google meet and has also developed its own platform for some classes but I wish they knew about discord or Teams.
We use Microsoft tems now
I have used almost all including Google meet and Facetime, I find Teams is the best.
11 Minutes summed up in 1 line, "Zoom Users didn't have to be members".
That and Microsoft put all their attention towards Teams
Hahahaha.
No.
It was the metro UI and the fact that they forced everyone to update, going as far as to make a constant popup that automatically selected the "update" and alt tab you when you're typing in different windows so that you accidentally press enter and start the update.
Skype losing it's call stability was the deathnail for the crew I used it with. We would experience all kinds of weird call breaking bugs practically daily. From ghost calls (where there were multiple calls going on in the same group simultaneously) to not being able to leave calls, where the ui accurately updates and says you left the call, but practically you're still calling and interacting through voice.
This happening once or twice wouldn't be as bad and just generally funny. The fact that it happened daily however...
@Victor Hugo Good that it made you feel safer. I was simply stating what ruined skype for me and my gaming crew and why we moved on.
Skype lost to discord before it lost to zoom
Isn't this the exact same story of Microsoft with Internet Explorer and Edge? Do they never learn?
Edge is now chromium based. Right?
Sprawledone yeah, they shipped out the new version with the last major update if I remember correctly, unfortunately the “broken developer tools” bug still affects it even after the upgrade, which seems a bit weird I suppose.
Edge works great! I use 4 browsers but I'd put it in the top 2! Always hated MS browsers before too
@@zerocal76 true. But it can still be optimised.
@@zerocal76 also, there is no point having two chromium based browser if you r using windows
Softwares may come and go , but I'll always have nostalgia for that "to to to tut tut tut tut to to too"
Great video 👍
Thank you!
HOWS THIS SO ACCURATE HAHAH
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why can i hear this comment
Skype voice quality was perfect.
was a paying skype user for almost a decade. once microsoft took over and starting ending support for different devices and services, i stopped paying for skype. dropped skype about 3 years back and never missed it once. microsoft once again leading in innovation by buying something and ruining it, to the point of driving people to try new replacement services and products from competitors. thanks microsoft!
They also ruined Nokia
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haha MS only wins when the get a Monopoly, like with Windows and Netscape/IE (not even)
@Murphy deffa I was dissapointed back then when they remove MSN Messenger
Microsoft just wanted to lock users to its platform and monetise the App further, it managed to give the competition a massive boost and killed its self.
I remember being on Skype 24/7 gaming with friends,now nobody uses it.
But anyone remember how when you had Skype on multiple devices and someone called you then your whole home started ringing lmao, and i once experienced a bug where i couldnt turn off the ringtone.
I remember playing League of Legends while Skyping my teammate, the one friend i had back then in League. Then LOL actually made a built-in mic, so that was that for Skype. But yeah, the memories are there. It wasn't even that long ago (4 or 5 years) and I already feel nostalgia.
I used to Skype a friend of mine and we'd play StarCraft II team games together. Still to this day don't know anyone who uses the inbuilt voice chat on that game.
@@mxbx307 Yeah. I used to Skype with friends while playing Minecraft with them.. Good old times.. Sad nothing is as fun as it was back then.. Nowadays i bareky even talk to those friends. : (
When the homies used to use skype instead of discord
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@@slidebean anytime these vids are such high quality
IRC and TeamSpeak.
Skype was for parents.
@@davidwuhrer6704 not really
Didn’t Garena overtake Asian market?
I used it once to play with my cousins back in 2012-14
Never touched it again after that one time but still 👀
Missing the security aspects of the Skype story. Skype was secure, it was driving the international security apparatus crazy. Its distributed nature couldn't be taped. There are rumours that the NSA wrote one of their "letters" to Microsoft instructing them to buy Skype and break the security, make it centralised, with a five eyes backdoor. The fact that MS has managed to pull teams out of the wreckage and make a successful product is the only good thing to come out of this mess. Since then Telegram and signal have risen to fill the security messaging gap left by Skype.
Was it really secure? I’ve heard stories of people getting DDoS’d simply by skyping someone
Thank you for your comment! Interesting!
@@IsaiahGamers Yes people could be Ddosed but the conversation couldn't be intercepted. Government hated Skype, there were stories of some countries trying to close skype down because dissidents used it. It was P2P just like the software used to pirate music it was based on. No central servers, no way to tap conversations.
Stephen Morrish Oh did not know that, thanks for the info!
@@stephenmorrish didn't Telegram get hacked by Russians? So much for security.
Huh i always though Discord was what brought Skype down. I remember around 2015, all my gaming friends moved from Skype to Discord literally overnight. And now Discord is thriving.
Unfortunately, Microsoft is going to bought discord. HOPE NOT
Oh yea, literally everyone i know switched from skype to discord.
I was never old enough to use skype I always used discord it just seems like it’s been a constant for years and years
@@user-mo2dl2fy6k
Oh please no they'll ruin it
When they forcibly implemented their own account infrastructure, everyone's phonebook got nuked, making it impossible to connect with anyone you didn't have on other platforms
this was one of the primary reasons i stopped using skype - and i was involved with them before launch.
The amount MS paid for Skype was outrageous. Really shows how desperate they were for maintaining access to "User-chat-logs" and much more Data to feed the algorithms.
It was also that the courts have ruled that forcing companies to hand over private data requires a warrant. But if a company simply sells you that data, you don't need a warrant. MS sells the data, bypassing the court system. They were guaranteed this revenue source before buying Skype.
also Microsoft already had a free instant messaging application that had free voice/video calling before they ever bought Skype
You're confusing Microsoft with Google.... Microsoft does indeed collect data, but mainly for their own purpose. Google is the one that collects every single drop of user data they can squeeze out of us, and then sells it
@@maxstr It's not just Google doing this. Microsoft are second rate, but they still do it.
That said, the main reason for the Skype buy was to allow spies to snoop outside the court system.
@@pizzaboxer Yup, i remember MSN. I even used it for a while but hated its protocol. I prefferred ICQ. And when Micro$oft shut down MSN they turned every MSN accounts into Skype accounts. One of the biggest Bullshit moves they ever did.
I remember when I was 7 and 8 Skyping my dad every day who was stationed in South Korea from Virginia Beach. I can still remember the loading music for skype and hearing it is so nostalgic. I always wondered wtf happened to Skype
You missed to mention a very important feature on old peer to peer-Skype. The privacy of a Skype-call.
It was very difficult, to impoosible, to intercept a Skype-conversation because it use of peer to peer-communication, which is very non-interceptable.
When Microsoft moved Skype to central servers they changed it's communication protocol from non-interceptable, to very easy interceptable.
That's is worth very much in $$$$.
Thank you for your comment! Interesting!
What a load of bullshit it's piss easy recording the audio stream of a program and uploading it to a server. At least for some one who is able to code software like Skype. Also: nobody is listening to your calls.
Your comment is only valid if you believe the myth of anonymity online.
Your isp must keep records of every bit of data transferred, from where to where, in order for their BILLING department to accurately know how much the different plans should be costing.
If they have those records, then they know where you go online and what you have been doing.
back before unlimited data packages, when we were charged by the MB for use, the billing department had to know how much you used in order to calculate your bill, which means they had to track everything you did online. It hasn't changed.
@@jaquigreenlees Yes, you are usually not anonimious online.
It seems you haven't read or understood my whole comment. With Skype's old peer-to-peer connections it was nearly impossible to trace Skype-calls. With Microsoft as new owner, Microsoft changed Skype to connect to centralised servers. That is very easy to intercept and log.
B.T.W Have you seen any log of a ordinary Internet connection, "of every bit of data transferred, from where to where"? "Everything" can't be logged, all the time.
To log endpoint connection is different from measure how many MB's you are using.
@@christophmeyer2693 What is the conclusion of your comment?
I held onto skype until about 2017, until most of my friends had switched to discord.
dude I dropped that shit in 2016, once I realized discord servers were way better and my calls didn't drop often I was out of there.
This is not going to end well........
@@13thdukeofwybourne69 ... Yea
@@LightLock yea discord is just very convenient
And dark mode so thats cool
I am still using it :(
that last line struck a chord lol "Who celebrates the death of a software? Well, those who worked with it for too long..."
Very true x)
Start preparing for the video: How Microsoft ruined TikTok
We'll be closely watching...
If anything Microsoft will save tik tok as tik tok sucks
You need to sign up with Microsoft account to access it
IF that happens, Nothing would be lose.
you cant ruin trash lmao
I like how you managed to completely avoid mentioning Discord
Discord is never mentioned in any business or government offices. Different target audience.
@@BleachRush It isn't only businesses that used (or are using) Skype either, the downfall of skype in the corporate world in 2017 can be explained by teams sure. However the people using it for talking with friends started moving over in 2016 greatly contributing to its downfall.
@@BleachRush Nonsense, it's all over the place in the tech industry.
@@genjishimada6303 ^ based
@@genjishimada6303 not exactly, few office workers use it but for the most part ppl have this stigma that it's for gamers and stuff, and I can't blame them, discord was originally meant for that
Also when the moved to "Server" based communication, they could spy on the conversations, peer to peer was harder to spy on
It is hilarious that on my Linux and Apple computers, Skype is now less usable than in 2011, when Microsoft bought it.
No worries, it's less usable on my Microsoft computer as well.
It's not like it was very usable on Microsoft platforms. I specifically remember a 2015 struggle of trying to get the silly program to even work on a family members computer. We spent two consecutive hours trying to get it to just plainly work to the point where it could accept a call, but due to the baffling design of windows 8 it kept complaining about microphone configuration problems in Internet Explorer. Amazing. It also fought us every step of the way to prevent us from using the 'desktop application' version rather than the horrible metro app version.
"some countries banned skype to protect their phone companies". Makes you think what else is banned just to protect the money flow.
from "I'll skype you" to "I'll zoom you"
😂
Who's Zoomin' Who? ------ Aretha Franklin
There is still I Skype u ... if u are working adult
Nah nobody says that
@@vancekang Nobody says that anymore. Where I'm from, most people use WhatsApp, Messenger, Telegram, Teams and sometimes just plain SMS
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I've always loved skype. About 20 years ago I couldn't understand why people were still paying $50/month for local home phone service when for $60/year you could get unlimited global calling to most 1st, 2nd, and some 3rd world countries using skype. And you had the ability to purchase additional local phone numbers in said counties to easily recieve inbound calls using the same unlimited plan. I hated it when Microsft bought skype because I just knew they were going to kill it!
Those updates killed it! Every time I wanted to make a call, I had to download an update, and I had to get my caller to do the same. Also, if you forgot your password, it was a major delay and effort to get back in.
I lost an account because in 2016 MS decided to make it too difficult to recover an account if you forget the password. That decision encouraged people to switch to other email's/videocalls companies, losing users in a fast way. Appealing to security, they motivated people to change them instead.
You had to create a Microsoft account to use it… bye!
Skype lost me when I couldn't figure out how to edit a contact. I only use it to contact a family member who lives outside my country.
Not a single mention of Discord? I've never heard of Teams and also Zoom before this year.
While Discord may be a communications product, it is has a different target audience than both Skype and WhatsApp which both are used for professional and private conversations.
I've only ever heard of discord from TH-camrs. But I have heard and used all the others mentioned in this video
No one uses discord except it’s very dedicated user base. Even if it is better, people will look for professional tools rather than gamer chats
A small startup I worked for used discord for a bit. The CEO was very confused when it first loaded up and said something like "oiling up the hamster wheels" or something like that
If you know how to use discord you know how to use teams it as that same asthetic except slightly less cringey with the messages
Every time I start Skype, it has an update to install. Kind of insane.
I never used Skype, but I have an Xbox and I never use it because I’m sick and tired of having to wait for an update every time I want to play a game. What is it with Microsoft and all their stupid updates?
@@mroberts566 Exactly, the Xbox updates are even worse than the Windows updates sometimes and they’re always large for me and takes forever to install.
They should really calm down with updates or just find another strategy or something because this is just ridiculous..
I actually might have lost a job because Skype decided to update on the day I had an interview and I lost the interview opportunity
Skype:
Microsofts $8b+ mistake.
Um Skype on Browser? Phone? All updated together?
The moment I truly started hating Skype was when they changed from separate contact and message windows to a single integrated one, and removed any setting to splitting them up again, while simultaneously not letting you order your contact list grouped by “online” and “offline” contacts. Stupid...
Since Microsoft acquired skype, I have found it difficult to get audio and video and even a decent connection. Their money just screws up other decent companies.
It's because they were asked to do a redesign to allow easier hacking by government agencies. That meant the main advantage of Peer to Peer was removed and it depended on their server infrastructure.
Plus MS has a system of billing companies to use Office etc routinely. That was the main target that they wanted. After the conversion, they just ripped all the good tech out, renamed it Teams and were off.
The competition that killed Skype on the computer side were web based apps like Google Hangouts, which you didn't need to install at all, and came integrated with all gmail accounts. Most people didn't know how to install software back then, and Skype was dependant on that. Really great research!
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He never will have
" Teams " is horrible; it uses too much RAM, is inconsistent when using in a large organization, and it a UI nightmare
It's still better than Zoom.
Use Discord then.
I would still rather use Teamspeak instead of any other alternative. Because at least Teamspeak leaves me options for codec, rooms and whatnot.
Yeah, it's a pig. I've also found the video quality leaves an awful lot to be desired. I've been on Zoom calls with 40 people where the video is perfect, been on Teams with 10 people and it's just pixels.
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Skype after Microsoft bought them, was AWFUL on Android. It was literally as if they just took the desktop app and did minimal work to just get it up and running on mobile. It was also horribly intrusive (through many apps were up until literally a year ago) You're just trying to use your phone, or worse, navigation, and skype takes over the full screen........... It was off of my phone so fast. Android 9 with it's pop up notification helped that lol
NOO YOU HAVE ANDROID 9 :( , i have android 4 :)
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on this one, you didn't mention Lync for corporate and the fiasco of integration between the two brands.
A few years down the line: "How Microsoft ruined Discord (and established their own replacement)".
Came looking for this comment, was not disappoint.
funny cause discord listened to the community and stayed indepent
You get it. Buy stuff, destroy it, and use what you learn from it to make your own. That MS for ya.
@@TsjuunTze Sounds like EA too to me
Everything Microsoft buys dies just look at banjo kazooie and conker
It's kind of sad to see Skype die off after so many years. I used to use it back in the day and still did up to 2016. Now everyone uses Discord lmao.
The truth that people dont wanna acknowledge.
I use Wire, Jitsi meet and Telegram
No Zuck apps for me.
Great clip, you should make a video about notable examples of companies being too early or how it doesn't matter if you're first in your field
I remember trying to create a Skype account in 2018 and finding out they did not let you do that. You were literally not allowed to create a username, which is an issue when you are trying to provide your username to someone. Teams has not fixed this.
Caya in 2020: How Microsoft killed Skype.
Me: As usual, as they killed Nokia.
😅
Amen brother.....Microsoft very good at killing companies
Gates likes killing
It fells down before M bought it
I think you missed a part in Nokia story. Nokia has a very loyal base in ASEAN and Indian subcontinent. This was ofc, before smartphone advent and it was quiet a bit late here then in west. Till 2012-13, many people in India, which is a bit better in adoption of tech Amongst these countries, were still used some sort of keypad phone. However, it was by this time, Nokia had a change of guard and the CEO of that time decided to ignore these countries for fast evolving west.
It was monumentously stupid decision. Even though Nokia smartphones sucked ass, my first smartphone, like many other Indians, was Lumia as Nokia had built it’s brand image for 10-12 years as a stable and responsible company. Nokia could have gone android or some other route and gave India a low cost functioning android phone with basic app capability, if the new guy understood the market. While windows phone had appeal for some users with their posh camera and sexy design, Indian user base expected a low cost good battery functioning device. Sadly, now we have Chinese takeover of low-cost market, windows phone is dead and Nokia is donzo.
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This guy doesn't jump around on the story. He stays right on point. Very professional.
There may be another side to this. There is a brief mention of Skype for Business. I had that at work and trying to get it to work with Skype was murderously difficult. I heard that the architecture under the bonnet was completely different for Skype and Skype for Business (which was developed from Office Communicator Lync). Long story short, probably not a good idea to have two products with the same name that don't like talking to each other and another possible reason for the fall of Skype.
Microsoft made “Teams” by killing “Skype”
Apple made “AirPods” by killing “Beats”
Adobe made their animation suite by killing flash.
in short, big corporation bad
FaceTime was the straw that broke that camel's back.
Honestly, I've never been a big Skype user, because in the mid 2000s kids and teens preferred MSN Messenger, which also had video calls but had a better chat system, and I remember many people were upset when Messenger was shut down. However I think you missed a couple of Skype competitors in your excellent video: Facebook and more recently Discord. I remember using Facebook a lot for chatting and videocalls since 2011 up to maybe 2018 when I started using Discord. But nonetheless, I had some Job interviews and meetings on Skype during recent lockdowns, some smaller companies still rely on it.
You forgot to mention the malicious ad attacks which infected the Skype home page with malicious ads. I once got an ad that downloaded an visual basic script that asked to update Adobe Flash Player. This was during the time where Discord became a viable competitor where everyone was trying to convince everyone to move from Skype to Discord. This of course succeeded, which you also forgot to mention (you only mention the part where many were using Skype because everyone else they knew used it, not because they liked it). In fact, that was the only thing keeping me from moving: everyone I knew wouldn't move on from Skype.
9:50 "Direct competitor, Zoom"
Discord (mostly gamers): Am i a joke to you? I never glitched like Skype did since 2015
I remember when microsoft acquired skype. The app did get cumbersome to use after that. Ended up no longer using skype. Plus my passwords were became unusable so that i needed to re-register. Sounds like microsoft bought skype to shut down future competition
Microsoft is failing at everything except for windows and sometimes Xbox.
Competition? Skype is the basis of Teams video chat, I don't know what you're talking about.
@@goff256 Yeah, because Teams is so awesome... Not
@@horvathbenedek3596 You sure showed me. /rolls eyes
Microsoft business model in Software is contracts with threats e. g. they manage some governments or big businesses to sign up some exclusive contract so that it cannot buy software from another vendor for the duration of contract which normally many years. Another model is "free" e.g. they come as good guys donating free licenses to education institutions, which result in lock in. Once again. That is not because software is so great that users and businesses love to use it, but because of no choice. And the root is legacy - once Windows penetrated very deeply so it is hard to dismiss it.
This reminds me of the saying, some of us learn from other people's mistakes. The rest of us have to be the other people. Some serious school fees there. Keep up the good work, very interesting videos.
Absolutely! Thank you!
You have a great well researched channel. I’ve often wondered about Skype’s demise. Thnx
Thank you!
“Bro I can’t join the call, re-add me!”
as always, thanks for sharing good material. keep going man.
Thanks, will do!
Skype still my favourite.... Gives the feeling of privacy and for sure classic and nostalgic.
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The appeal of zoom is that you dont need an account. You can just log in with a password for the call and thats it. Vs. having to have an account
And now they're trying to ruin Discord.
This really confirmed everything I was thinking. At the start of the pandemic news reporters were still catching themselves saying "Skype" but quickly got on the Zoom bandwagon when it became clear that's what everyone was using. Teams is way too complex for home users and that scares off the non tech folks. They should have kept the Skype name for the (non business) simple to use product. If was part of Teams code under the UI fine but they had the world saying the word Skype for video calls and just let Zoom walk away with that market.
The wacky thing with Skype was its vast amount of features options and hidden gems. We used to start servers with /golive where we could bypass Skype's normal limits. It wasn't a heavy program yet so your computer could run other things along with Skype. The biggest things in my opinion was that you couldn't run Skype and anything else. This ruined it for the gaming communities and friend groups. The options disappeared and the hidden features got locked down. Because it was such a heavy program. And it was always on. Me and my extended friend group of about 300 started looking for alternatives because we wanted to get rid of Skype so our computers didn't die. Now years later Microsoft bought discord and we are already nervously looking around for a new ship to jump up on once Microsoft ruins discord. It already isn't looking too good
They kept updating the program until it no longer worked on windows vista, so now I make video calls on WhatsApp.
Now you know we gonna need a msn messenger vid
I remember when skype was a new thing, free calls and messaging was unheard off in Eastern Europe, no longer did we have to send expensive sms messages to get everyone outside, we could now use skype for that, playing counter strike and being able to talk with friends while doing it was mind blowing aswell. Still remember when we heard microsoft buy it and instantly knew that its days were numbered. How times change.
Me and my friends used to use Skype to talk back in 2014 because our TeamSpeak server was down. And it was terrible.
Ransom the worst thing was how not everyone on a group chat was able to see there was an ongoing call and were able to call the group chat again. This would cause them to join the existing call and become the new host but the people in the original call would hear the Skype ringtone until the original host would shut down Skype. And this was never fixed in the 6-12 months we used Skype
Discord lowkey took skype over after that new layout update in skype
I'm surprised you didn't mention Discord, which had a massive ad campaign in its early days about how it'll take down Skype.
Now you get all the basics of Skype with the ability to host absolutely massive servers.
Great analysis! Where do you get your b-roll footage?
What an astonishing collection of stock footage you've assembled in order to bring absolutely nothing new to rehashing video topics you generated through the brilliant process of watching other TH-cam channels and doing what they did. Just amazing.
Could you do a video on Dropbox, given their current downward trend?
Idea noted! Thanks!
I can not even log into Skype anymore with my email address. i need to use some Microsoft account crap. And that does not work either. So if someone asks me to meet cia Skype, i simply decline as tey have the choice to use Zoom or maybe messenger. Whatsapp is fine too but it does not allow for calls om a pc. That would really make it a competitor to zoom for the consumer market.
I can’t access my account either. And the damn form they have is useless
@@MM-vn4bj Long live zoom :-)
You know what killed skype for me? That you weren't allowed to move Echo/Sound Test Service into group calls anymore! When talking in the middle of the night adding that nice lady to a call was always a welcome running gag!
Yep, when they merged Skype for Business and Lync there were so many issues it was almost unusable and still isn't to this day. Now Skype for Business is EOL and will be no more soon in favor of Teams. It sad
Before even watching, I agree with the title first hand
would be cool if you mentioned discord. their tagline was to ditch skype
Whenever I FaceTime my grandma she says are we ‘skyping’ today
Teams still has some of the same bugs: I frequently get notifications of incoming calls on one device but not the one I actually am set up to use.
Teams is very immature and still has a long way to go, despite being over four years old now.
Our company dropped Skype when they dropped support for Linux.
We moved to Slack.
They dropped support for Linux? Somebody should let Microsoft know about that. Maybe they could take down this active support page.
support.skype.com/en/skype/linux/
And maybe they could take down the links on their download page that says "Linux" followed by DEB, SNAP, and RPM.
@@goff256 lol
@@goff256 Let me clarify that: They officially did not drop support, but effectively skype became unusable on Linux a few years ago.
We could no longer see if our Linux users were online reliably. Often if we called them, or they called us, it would just not connect.
And it randomly crashed, caused problems with memory usage, and similar issues.
They stopped caring and stopped fixing problems or making sure Skype worked on Linux. That's what I mean when I say that they dropped support.
I still remember the oovoo days
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This videos makes me sad and nostalgic. Nice video
Who went into the video thinking "How MS ruined Skype" would be about how MS Teams disrupted Skype and not about how MS themselves ruined their own acquisition
Fast forward till now and Microsoft wants to buy Discord.
Im worried I really hate Microsoft's integrated account system.
It’ll be fun to see who wins the video conferencing wars in the next decade.
We'll be watching closely as well!
@@slidebean Discord probably
I remember when “Skype them” was used often in the same context as “Google it” every time you wanted to video call someone. Weird that a random app nobody has ever heard of has completely taken its place.
I used skype since like 2006. On windows PC and on windows mobile 5.0 communicator. Back then, skype was huge. Novadays in my experience mostly older generation uses skype, like college teachers, my grandma ... etc. While cool kids use Telegram or Whatsup.
Not to first IM Microsoft killed.
Anyone remember MSN messenger, Live messenger and windows messenger (i think it is same product with different names).
Nor it is first IM client to drop from high % user base to next to nothing:
ICQ, Yahoo Messenger,
AOL messanger
etc.
I'm 36 y old, so I clearly remember MSN.Good old times :(
Whatever happened to MSN messenger?
@@ca-ke9493 pretty much Microsoft happened to it... and rise of Skype.
Sound messed in the intro right, some reverberation or echo.
Updated monthly? We had Skype at our office, and it literally updated daily! It was super annoying and crashed non-stop and was completely messed up. More messed up with each little update, removing useful features. We abandoned Skype completely since last year
Thank you for your comment! Interesting!
I remember the innovators dilemma, when they created a new product thats actually destroy their own older product. I think thats what happen t skype
Actually video starts at 7:54
Thank you!
I remember when everyone use to use Skype then everyone went to Discord
This caused me to lose too much nonrefundable money. I had a Skype number. I had Skype-to-Phone. I was a 15 year user. Thanks Mr. Gates.
My experience was they suddenly made it mandatory to open an MS account before continuing to use Skype. They released this software to millons simultaneously. Everyone tried to open an account at once, the whole thing froze and crashed. All the Skype contacts were wiped, never got them back never used it again. Great release guys . How to flush 8bln down the drain. I've avoided everything MS from that day on.
A tech gaint ruined skype excited about this vedio, keep going slidebean , caya
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Thank you, Varees!
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It was interesting to learn about all this stuff! As a user, I frankly got simply fed up with skype because the UI seemed to become worse and worse with each update. The same way that Apple makes it so their interface works exactly how you’d expect (mostly), Skype seems to work exactly NOT that way.
A good thing with Skype was that you always had a perfect excuse for not replying some IM or miss a call. You just said "you know, Skype didnt notify me" and everybody would understand.