How to Ski Your FIRST Black Run
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2022
- In this video we look at how to ski your first black run. Shot at Mt Snow, NY on their North Face Black runs. Last time I shot this video on a blue (thought it was a black since there was a sign for "advanced skiing") but it was a blue and everyone laughed at me in the comments. So I re-shot this video at Mt Snow towards the end of last season. Here it is for you to enjoy...
NOTE: Last time I shot this video on a blue (thought it was a black since there was a sign for "advanced skiing") but it was a blue and everyone laughed at me in the comments. So I re-shot this video at Mt Snow towards the end of last season. Here it is for you to enjoy...
Yes, but East Coast Blacks are like West Coast Blues. So, that was still a Blue to most of us. Sorry, mate.
@@willnichols5516 depends where you are on the east coast. Mid to northern Vermont blacks are typically more challenging than the smaller resorts or southern vt & nh. Conditions are usually a lot icier on steeper east coast runs too which can make it more challenging for beginners & intermediates. Not trying to get into a debate on what coast is harder because in general the larger west coast mountains have more challenging trails black dia to black dia.
@@willnichols5516 Thank god that someone said it xD I thought I was being weird thinking this is like a blue or something. Easiest black hill i've ever seen :p
To the folks that are saying this run is like a blue out west, you've obviously never skied it. I've skied this run as well as all the Epic pass resorts in New England, and I've skied all over Colorado (Vail, Snowmass, Crested Butte, etc). It's black because it's fairly steep and sustained, somewhat narrow, and they allow it to get a bit bumpy. It's the same as single blacks I've skied out west except that the snow can get MUCH TRICKIER with ice, AND you get to dodge more skiers. So no, it's not like a blue run in the Rockies, nor is it a double black with trees and cliffs. It's your typical single black run at any major resort. The camera always flattens things out.
its true, this is very much more like a higher scale blue on my mountain. for example if i stopped like him i would be able to touch the run standing up :)
Definitely a hard green / blue at vail.
@@pdeichert Yeah, from someone who probably never skied New England and who actually spends time on the greens and blues at Vail...
@@NCMirage257 im pretty sure I know what im talking about :)
@@pdeichert Really?? Well one of us has skied all over Vail AND the slope on the video... I'm getting Texas Jerry vibes out of you... you from Dallas or Houston?
My ski instructor would be screaming “lean forward” in half broken English right now 😂
Steeper than it looks main thing I like about this run and Freefall, is no moguls, love these trails. For these ice days have a good tune on your skis, makes a huge difference. A good pair of carving skis helps, I just bought a pair of Rossignol 86 ti skis best grip on ice I have ever skied, bombed down this trail in similar conditions, no problems slipping on the ice.
Here's a Thumb saving tip for you. Put your hand through the straps of your pole from underneath and then hold the strap and the pole handle. Doing it your way, when you fall, you will reach out with your hand, you won't be able to let go of the pole and your thumb will end up getting bent back. Also, don't ski so fast into congested areas because if you lose control, your momentum will send you into other people. You ski like you drive a car. Follow the Rules of the Road and you will be a much safer skier.
Damn I wish I had read this before. Just landed on my thumb yesterday. Hoping it’s not too badly injured
Landed on my thumb today. Will try.
@@ericlarousse1149 The best ski lessons are on my channel. Read all my comments there.
Wdym underneath😊
Dont use strap. Better tip. 35 years skiing, no injury
That last dude passed the vibe check!
He bru!! nice content as my local hill is always full of ice..love the way you explain the real scenario in the slope😂
I don't usually go to Mount Snow. It has become so packed, so corporate, and so expensive. I had the chance to ski Mount Snow this winter, but I chose Bromley instead.
Are there really any trails with a 40°slope at Mt Yo? As far as I know there is only about 100 yards of 35° on Mount Snow’s Ripcord...
Yeah maybe not. Mt Snow really isn't the steepest mountain, its just those few blacks on the north face. But I guess that makes it a good place for your first black run ;-)
@@skiwithgenerationsnow That's a good point. One of the things keeping a lot of intermediates from progressing is fear of the speed associated with keeping their upper body facing downhill, and embracing the fall line. Mount Snow would be a good place for that.
Did you take the video in Shawnee mountains?
If you ever want an ultra black diamond run try Switzerland 😝
Where would you recommend? I have been to Zermatt and really likes the black runs that come off the Rote Nase lift near stockhorn. Back in the day they were yellow on the map, for unpisted. I also went to Verbier, but unfortunatelt Mont Fort was closed while I was there so i couldnt ski the black run that comes off that.
I went to Mt Tamarack in ID today, this “black” does not compare to anything I went on today. It’d probably barely register as a blue
Hi John, the whole point is that we picked one of the easiest black runs we could find, since this is a video on how to ski your FIRST black run. I even say that at the beginning “ask a local which is the easiest black etc..” you can see the sign at the beginning of the video, so you know it is graded black, but not a hard one, just a few steep sections (which don’t really look steep on camera) thus this would be a recommended first black for a lower intermediate skiier.
Hello! Do you have any videos on how to ski better on blues?
you trippin bro
I think for blues, people wont specify its for blues, since blacks is more of a milestone. But if you look for general videos on how to improve technique like how to parallel turn, how to carve etc… those should be useful. We should have a few of those kinds of tutorials coming later in the season
I grew up in New England and have skiied almost everywhere. I'm old and think wearing a helmet is weird (probably should get on board). As for my skill level, I'm not a super-fan of double-black diamonds, but I most enjoy single black diamond runs. Blue runs I just do flat out.
In any case, this indeed looks like a pretty easy black diamond run, even for New England, but that's not the point of the video! You can do a Black Diamond runs explainer video on any slope. This is not a *ick measuring contest about "Who has the toughest Black Diamond Runs?"
Also, skiiers outside of NE have no idea how much harder it is to ski on ice. West Coast skiiers, in my experience, are blown away about how terrible NE can get with ice. They're used to deep powder. I've spoken to a number of non-New-England skiiers who have never skiied on ice and have no idea how to deal with it.
So, for all the non-NE skiiers shit-talking how easy this looked, try a serious black diamond run in NE that is almost all ice. You'll shit your pants when you see there's no snow for over 200' of ice before a thick berm of snow at the bottom.
As for the content, I agree with everything presented, but would add some points aboud skiing on ice. Firstly, you can slow your momentum across a sheet of ice. I find the best strategy is quick back and forth with hard presses into the ski edges, usually behind the boot. The primary goal is to make sure the ski edges are parallel with the shape of the snow that the bottom of the ice so you can skid directly into it.
The times I didn't skid into the berm parallel, the non-aligned ski gets ripped off from all the snow at the bottom of the ice sheet. Another note for the non-New-England skiiers, how good are you at skiing with one ski after your other ski got ripped off from a pile of snow at the bottom of a massive sheet of ice?
Ive been to mt snow great mountain
“Go zat way, really really fast, if something gets in your way… turn”
Ummm, what's with the blood? Also, thanks for the intro.
It's crazy....your voice reminds me of a TH-camr/chinese translator.......his name is Ben....is it you?
Love the video..... 😀
Thats me, i have many channels
I passes my “Learn Chinese Now” channel on to Jared
You r all over the place mate
This is Mt. Snow, VERMONT
Wow, yes, how did you know?? :-)
am I the olny one who learned to ski by friends tricking me onto a black run and just going for it? maybe messed up but I assure you I learned real quick lol
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What size is your skis bro?
179 length, 88 underfoot. I think 175 is ideal for me, but they only make the enforcer in either 172 or 179
That black run looks like a blue run out West - granted, I'm still skiing greens so everything looks like a black run.
Cameras don't do steeps much justice. But this is east coast after all. So, the labeling might look questionable to other regions. True, true... :)
Best tip for doing blacks is to sharpen your edges to be sure when you hit unsuspecting ice you don’t slide out. Don’t get 5he cheapest insurance either 😂
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facts, west coast boarder here and damn near faceplanted 3 times on a few blacks due to the ice 💀
That’s a green in Boone
nice video altough this is the easiest black run ive ever seen
Check out east coast blacks for essy😂
I love how this guy describing single blacks are what blues are at my resort. At my resort most blacks aren't groomed and double blacks have to be traversed to a lot.
A-Basin?
@@mikepham1429 nah solitude
This is the easiest black run I've ever seen
Thats the point. You need to pick an easy one for your first black run.
@@skiwithgenerationsnow Exactly! Everytime someone posts an east coast black run some elitist douche has to make a comment like that's a west coast green, not taking into account the GoPro never does steepness justice and we have to deal with more ice and adverse conditions. 😂
This is a black diamond? I've skied blues at Breckenridge and Copper Mountain that were steeper and chunkier. This proves my theory that Colorado skiing is harder than in other parts of the US.
Couple of points for you. 1. Camera always makes the run look less steep than it is. 2. We purposefully picked an easy black, since this video is about skiing your first black. I would say everyone thinks their home resort is the hardest, maybe some resorts are harder than others, or it could just be psycological
Also, in the Rockies you all hardly ever ski ice. A diamond in VT, PA, or VA is gonna be WAY trickier than the Rockies. It is WAY easier to ski in the Rockies. Yes it is steeper, but you also have 70 inches of snow. We have 8" with ice.
Plenty of ice at Beaver Creek. 34F today. 8F at night. Melt, freeze, melt, freeze.
@@diverdown81 Plenty of ice in the afternoons once the slopes have been shaved off on any the Rockies resorts. Double blacks / ungroomed runs in at 12,000ft can get icy and snow packed. Groomed runs that's also not sun facing get really icy here Colorado. The 70 inches you speak of is the base only, that's not 70inches of powder lol.
Lol there is always some elitist douche in the comments that say an east coast double black is a bunny hill in the Rockies.
mt snow isent in ny
Right, its in Vermont, thats why it says Mt Snow VT in the on screen title
You need to stick to runs at your level. They are indicated by the green colour.
Never loop the pole strap around your wrist it can catch trees etc and spin you around
The other day, I had them looped around my wrist when going on the chairlift and the pole got caught under the chairlift on the ground and twisted my wrist for a bit there. I coulda broken it. Knowing it can cause issues other places too I probably won't wear them around my wrist again. Thanks!
@@deandraalexis they never should be on your wrists until you’re off the lift
That doesn't look like a black run to me. It resembles a blue.
that a blue
You see the sign at the beginning, its a single black
That is not even a black slope! You will slide if you let the ice just slide you. Ice actually carvs very easy just need to know when to approach the next carv…… Thats a green on telluride Colorado!
Npc ahh comments
Sorry, but this would barely register as a blue, not even red, and definitely not black anywhere in Europe. St Anton blues in general are like this. You won't cruise like this on any reds overseas 🤣🤣
That is not BLACK run come to Whistler / Blackcomb and I will show you black runs where when you stop standing up you can reach out and touch your uphill hand to ground.
Hi, you may notice in the beginning of the video we say “choose an EASY black run” for your first one. And the slope we chose reflects that. We are trying to give people confidence, not scare the crap out of them. I am sure Whistler has great black runs, if we are there in the future we will reach out to you. ;-)
🤣🤣🤣...what a hell is this?
Definitely weird to west coast skier here. Anything black is not groomed. I think too steep for the grooming machinery. Generally full of moguls.
Audio sucks
i know you. that is not black. how dare you
You literally see the sign at the beginning of the video, and it is a continuous shot. No way to fake it. But two points 1. Never looks as steep on video, 2. We purposefully picked an easier black, since this a video about your first black run, we recommend to pick an easy one
east coast skiing looks lame
You're not wrong! :D East coast does look very underwhelming. We skied in all parts of the world, from New Zealand and Japan to across western and eastern Europe, US west coast.. and from that perspective East Coast does seem quite unappealing. We don't have great snow fall here, not beautiful towering peaks, nor long trails. It's more like icy hills around here, hehe. But still, the icy east coast formed some of the best skiers in the world (thanks Burke Academy*). So... we still can make the best out of it, and have fun. 😎
Ridiculously poor technique.
Bro this a green at Snowbowl Montana. We don’t even pay attention to the runs, drops cliffs not bombs