One thing thats interesting in the movie is that he wins BECAUSE hes injured and having a hard time. Everyone else is healthy, walk right in then get captured. He has to crawl, so he takes his time, ambushes them. Not sure if it means something, but its interesting
It's better viewed as the injury being an accidental blessing. His injury means the team performs the assault twice When he discovers their abandoned gear, he says to himself "so this is where it capsized," and takes an alternate route, knowing the first route is a trap.
I think it does mean something! Usually the disabled or injured in horror movies either serve as the aberrant/uncanny valley (especially disabled people w/ congenital disorders) or serve as sacrificial lambs. I think it makes it really refreshing to see a trope like that subverted, and see the creator acknowledge that disability and injury isn't a death sentence. I like that, especially considering how the horror genre usually has a really bleak (or outright ableist) view of disability and injury.
Thank you. That was me too. I cannot recommend this movie to just anyone. Looking down through the comments, I sense we are a bit unusual in that freak out reaction. I had to walk stop it and walk out a few times. It was just too much.
I’m sorry! The force of the diarrhea has torn right through my trousers! It must have been the steak volcano quesomacharito! I keep sh***ing! I can’t stop sh***ing! I’m literally sh***ing on Star Wars!
Me and a friend came across this movie randomly on a streaming service and saw the thumbnail and were like "Neat, Kurt Russell cowboy movie, let's watch that!" We were not prepared. That scene still gives me shivers.
It freaked meout a bit. The gore was realistically over the top. I've seen it a lot in Korean horror movies, like one Korean movie involving a lunatic chasing people down and murdering them with a hammer; it seemed too real to me.
I too didn't realize it was him at first, but kept wondering why he looked so familiar. Christ even David Arquette was good in this. But Michael Jenkins was my favorite by far.
yea his scene with the horse, so much emotion, i almost expected him to fall to the ground and hug the horse before he had to do it, the pain in his face was so real
You're timestamp is appreciated, it helped me out in ways you couldn't imagine, Everytime you leave a timestamp, you feed 10 hungry children via butterfly effect. Sometimes though, you cause a typhoon in a 3rd world village.
I've always thought the same thing. It's unfortunately been an uphill climb for me to be able to take him seriously as an actor bc they look so much alike. I think he's phenomenal, but it took ages for me to see anything other than Will Arnett. Same with Karl Urban and Adam Scott. Took me forever to mentally separate those two because the resemblance was so strong.
Just a side note, Mathew fox’s character didn’t lose a wife and daughter to natives, it was his mom and sister when he was 10 years old. He specifically says in the movie “I’m the smartest one here” “smart men don’t get married”
He clearly wanted the audience to be annoyed with Matthew Fox's character. We might be satisfied to know his character was an involuntarily unmarried; like no woman could stand him enough to marry him. I just watched Bone Tomahawk. It kind of freaked me out. I had to stop watching it and walk out a couple of times. I don't recommend it for everyone.
@@troy3456789 I agree with you on not recommending it to everyone. I personally loved it and will probably rewatch it soon, but everyone has different tastes. For example Jay and Jim discussed those gross-out Italian cannibal films in this video, and those are movies that I absolutely will not watch since I have no interest in watching real animals being killed or the over the top exaggerated violence. Somebody could call me a pussy for that, but we all have different limits.
@@samlosco8441 Well sir, we do not get to control what we like and what we don't like and what makes us queasy. I have no rational explanation as to why my boredom meter goes up when I am presented with watching a romantic comedy to watch. A movie about gay men or if it has men kissing in it would also cause me to be nauseous. I have no idea why I like certain movies and why I do not like others; nor does anyone else. Also, I cannot stand sweet potatoes, no matter how much I want to like them. We don't get to choose what we like or don't like.
I do kinda wish The Professor appeared in more than one scene. Zahn McClarnon is a fantastic actor (Fargo, Westworld, Longmire, The Son) and it would’ve been cool to have seen his tense relationship with Brooder explored more. Still a fantastic movie.
Agreed. He was great in the few bits he got. I also appreciate what he was there for, to set the troglodytes apart from normal Native Americans, but he felt a little too token. Having him be an actual character would have made it feel a little more sincere. On the other hand, the balance they struck with the group they ended up choosing was so perfect that I wouldn't want to upset it. That's the problem with having a cast this good, someone is going to end up with the short end of the stick.
First time I've seen any comment on here reference The Son, which is probably my second favorite show that came out of AMC, right after The Terror. Classic late 1800s, early 1900s western epic.
You guys are right about his DnD interest, he cited it as his inspiration for storytelling. I think there are elements to his films where that is directly visible, such as the group dynamic in Bone Tomahawk or the progression of the protagonist in Brawl in Cell Block 99. We actually shot a DnD campaign going through Bone Tomahawk and it works perfectly. His books are all fantastic also, I'm a huge Zahler fan, extended re:View's for his other films would be awesome
Yes! I was thinking how much the journey and story felt like I was witnessing a D&D campaign unfold in front of me. Thanks for making this point. I love you. Goodbye.
Bone Tomahawk is an amazing film and one of the most underrated films in recent memory. Love that you guys are giving it a spotlight. The modern western genre keeps on gifting us with these gems.
What makes it kinda worse for me is the fact it's actually true that being split in half like that would keep you alive until the last moment as it makes all the blood rush to your head to keep you alive and conscious.
One thing I love about this film is that the town of Bright Hope is probably my favorite portrayal of a town in a Western yet. Everybody there, everybody feels like a real person - not a character. There's no set pieces to highlight how cool or badass the main characters are, no real fuss is made over anyone. It just shows them in every day life. It's pretty great, honestly.
This part stuck to me even more than "that scene"... It's one thing to die horrifically, living in a prolonged torment like that is beyond nightmarish.
I'm reading Wraiths of the Broken Land right now. Dude that first chapter with the dog made me put the book down for the rest of the night. A Congregation of Jackals was gruesome too but Wraiths is straight up cruel. .....Can't wait to read the rest of his books tho
Craig Zahler, Robert Eggers, and Taylor Sheridan represent the next generation of America's finest writer/director talent. Of course, Zahler can claim one additional job title, because he does compose some cool music for his films. A modern day Carpenter.
Your list is missing Jeff Nichols. If you haven't watched his movies, I recommend you watch them all. Everyone is great. "Take Shelter," "Mud,", and "Midnight Special" are all good places to start.
Matthew Fox has always been a solid actor. He filmed on my college campus for We Are Marshall. He's the one who made that movie tolerable with his portrayal of Red Dawson, which the real Red Dawson called so accurate that it helped him cope with the tragedy depicted in the film.
@@jamesl4185 - He was apparently charged for drunkenly beating up a female bus driver (which were later dropped), but also charged for a drunken bar brawl and drunk driving. A feminist co-star on Lost would spin it as "beating the shit out of women" so if you're into that then whatever.
They touched on the dialogue, and the sorta subtle 'stage play/theatre' affect, but what makes a lot of this film work is the lyrical quality of the dialogue, the voices, and the exchanges. It really makes every scene possess a sorta thematically melodic tempo to it, that draws out the dialogue and pulls in the audience's ear. It's a lot of what makes this film work.
I'm surprised that nobody points out how each of the lead characters represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse. I haven't seen any review that actually mentions that, with most just nodding to there being four riders and, therefore, being like an apocalypse. The Sheriff is War (organizes the battle), Brooder is Death (pale horse, killed hundreds), Chicory is Famine (poor, always hungry), and O'Dwyer is Pestilence (injury, later getting infected). It's not like it changes the movie to see all that, but it's just odd that it isn't pointed out in any reviews, on Wikipedia or even just in IMDb's trivia.
@@tamapajamas Just my observation, but little pieces of dialogue that aren't plot-specific, like Chicory begging for the sheriff's food, make it look intentional. I don't know how to fact-check it, but I'd sure love to hear if Zahler did it on purpose.
Interesting...thinking...thinking...that is a most excellent observation. If it ain't true, it ought to be. Seriously though, you might be on to something. Thanks for that.
This movie checks a lot of boxes for me. Great dialogue, beautiful imagery, excellent performances, horrific gory brutality and the faintest tinge of otherworldliness.
So awesome to have the guys talk about this movie! I got to help do the special effects for the film. One of the best times ever, Kurt Russell is the coolest guy in the world!
I imagine 10 years from now there'll be video essays, and regular ol' essays about the end when Chicory looks down at a rock he's had a death grip on, and tosses it aside.
That cut the dude in half scene actually did put me in a funk for a week or so. I wasnt prepared for that kind of degrading violence. Great film though.
I cried when the flea circus story was being told; I honestly thought he was going to die next because I assumed they were telling the story to make you feel more for him right before he was killed off. I did not want him to die as viciously as the other guy did. Well it worked, just not in the way I thought.
I know a couple of guys who worked with Craig K-something on the sound effects for Tomahawk, and they went through every iteration of every type of sound for THAT scene and it set the palette for the entirety of the movie in stone when they landed it, but the entire thing is a masterclass in sound mixing and design, everything has a visceral presence to it. I just build sets, but I appreciate how much of the world sound creates.
There is a genre for this, but not in film. It's western horror and "Bone Tomahawk" reminded me a lot of the old Robert E. Howard western horror stories. There was a lot of Lovecraft that bled through to Howard.
You should check out Joe Lansdale some time if you've not heard of him. He's done quite a lot of western horror, and is just a great writer all around no matter what genre he's dipping into.
I definitely got LC vibes from Bone Tomahawk, the Savages being so very very different from anything "civilised", what they did to their mothers... if there had been just a small hint towards Cho Cho people or something, I wouldn't have found it out of place.
@@pyenapple The Guy Pearce one? Kinda but definitely doesn't reach the heights of horror that it ought to, that one single chase sequence with the horrible music is kind of the biggest issue. The "licking" scene is pretty offputting but past that chase it's just kind of hard to take it seriously.
Richard Jenkins deserves as much love as JK Simmons. For me, the breakout film for both is Burn After Reading, which is in my experience deeply underrated.
I consider Richard Jenkins the ACTUAL star of Bone Tomahawk. He stole scenes he wasn't even in because I was still thinking about him in the prior scene.
S. Craig Zahler is one of the few directors left that give me hope for the future of big budget cinema. His writing is always superb (if a little too ostentatious at times) and his characters feel real, with real personalities and goals. I'm so glad you guys discussed this movie on a Re:View.
This movie was surprisingly amazing. It actually reminds me kind of "The 13th Warrior". A group of Vikings getting theri villages assaulted and seek out to destroy the intruders. Just to find out they are canibals.
It's so hard to pull off a genre switching movie that doesn't feel disconnected and disjointed. It is a great film and a showcase in how to pull it off.
The light jazz selection in the background of this re:View helps, I think, make this one of my favorite episodes. These two from the crew work well together as well.
After seeing that scene in the cave, I had to pause the movie and walk away for a good hour before watching the rest of it. I never had a movie do that to me.
@@prince-solomon How dare I feel emotion while watching a film. I will never tear up during a sad movie, laugh during a comedy, or feel horror while watching a horror movie like this one ever again. It's all fake so why would I feel anything! Thank you. Thank you for opening my eyes.
3:10 to Yuma, True Grit & Bone Tomahawk are three modern (or remade) western movies that I could watch over & over. Well, those & The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
@@tweetibird88 Oh yeah, that too. I guess it would be more accurate to say that Bone Tomahawk is a _relatively_ more obscure movie that I've actually seen beforehand.
I was never a big fan of Jim’s when I first saw him in RLM content but the more I see the more I like of him. I really enjoy his insights in these re:View’s he really knows what he’s talking about
Matthew Fox's character was so entertaining in this, even if he was over the top (like a lot of things in this but it worked out.) Really good cast all around and the genre combining worked well too. So glad you guys did a re:View of this.
Cowboys & cannibals - 1999: Ravenous. And holy shit - David Arquette is in both Ravenous and Bone Tomahawk! That's one hell of an accomplishment - to be in not one, but TWO cowboys & cannibals movies.
Totally watched this because of the recommendation Jay gave from a previous video (I'm forgetting which) and went in blind. Glad you're finally talking more about it cause boy, what a movie that was!
I started watching this re:View having never seen this movie. As they were talking about it, I realized I wanted to see it without it being spoiled, which is not the first time a re:View has done that. So I paused it and went and watched the movie. I'm back now. Got to say, I am not a squeamish man, but holy shit, THAT scene!
As soon as Jim said he went in blind and Jay said, "spoilers," I stopped the video to go watch, came back, and observed that I had every single same reaction that these guys had regarding the movie. Loved it. Jaw dropped. Watched scenes multiple times to see that hand. Santa WAS perfect.
Didn't they cover it on Half in the Bag? I still need to see it, I don't know why I have yet to watch a new Coen Brothers western. I loved the "True Grit" remake.
I’m so happy there have been pretty good westerns coming out recently. Bone Tomahawk, hateful eight, django unchained, Even magnificent seven was decent and of course the “balled of buster Scruggs.”
Jay says he's never seen anything like this, cowboys versus cannibals. For some reason it reminded me of The 13th Warrior, except that was a big-budget studio movie directed by John McTiernan. Antonio Banderas plays an Arab who teams up with a bunch of Vikings to track down a group of cave-dwelling cannibals. But I haven't seen it in a long time, the comparison may not be that apt.
glad to hear you guys talk about this movie! i saw it a couple years ago and have been trying to convince people to watch it ever since, happy to see it get some well deserved attention
"Non-comedic Paul Rudd"
I've never heard a more accurate description of Patrick Wilson in my life.
Nah dude, I can barely take him seriously as an actor because all I see is Will Arnett
@@wyattisrite5153 they are the same guy
I mean i think his preformance in Fargo season 2 is stronger commedically than any Paul Rudd preformance I can think of
I see your comment and raise you the movie "Stretch"
timestamp?
"You say goodbye to my wife, and I'll say hello to yours."
That line broke me.
Man, how i love that line!
That was one of the best lines I'd heard in tears. Even my girlfriend, who was literally screaming moments earlier, was grabbed by it.
Who knew they had swingers' clubs back in the old west, eh? I wonder what they put in the bowl instead of car keys.
That fucked me up
One thing thats interesting in the movie is that he wins BECAUSE hes injured and having a hard time. Everyone else is healthy, walk right in then get captured. He has to crawl, so he takes his time, ambushes them.
Not sure if it means something, but its interesting
It's better viewed as the injury being an accidental blessing. His injury means the team performs the assault twice When he discovers their abandoned gear, he says to himself "so this is where it capsized," and takes an alternate route, knowing the first route is a trap.
Slow and steady wins the race.
Wasn’t Christian Bales character in 3:10 To Yuma disabled too??
I think it does mean something! Usually the disabled or injured in horror movies either serve as the aberrant/uncanny valley (especially disabled people w/ congenital disorders) or serve as sacrificial lambs. I think it makes it really refreshing to see a trope like that subverted, and see the creator acknowledge that disability and injury isn't a death sentence. I like that, especially considering how the horror genre usually has a really bleak (or outright ableist) view of disability and injury.
@@tomithebunny interesting observation!
That zoom in on Jay when Jim mentioned The Green Inferno was the funniest thing I've seen all week.
TJ Evers II jay was not a fan. Go watch their end of the year film review from that year for details.
24:46 For those who missed it.
@TJ Evers II I think he was worried he was going to have to listen to Jim talk about how much he loved INFERNO. Frankly I was too.
Mike just wanted to savor every FRAME of that reaction :D
I went into Bone Tomahawk not knowing it was a horror movie. It completely freaked me out man.
I felt this way about Apocalypto
@@Derek_Keenan it is impressive
Thank you. That was me too. I cannot recommend this movie to just anyone. Looking down through the comments, I sense we are a bit unusual in that freak out reaction. I had to walk stop it and walk out a few times. It was just too much.
I knew it was a horror but that death scene(you know what one I'm talking about) still left me feeling cold and numb lol
@@Ridiculousman2nd yep.. it was sooo brutal.
Jesus Christ. "I'm Jay's dad!"
Caught me off guard Jimbo. Well done.
It's funny and true
😆😆😆
I was drinking from my cup of tea and not really paying attention when he said it. Ended up spitting my tea back into my cup as I laughed!
Earned my like.
the timing on it right!?
I remember Jay name dropped Bone Tomahawk on a Half in the Bag. So I decided to watch it. Needless to say, I'm split on the movie.
You son of a bitch.
I'll need a moment to dissect that...
Taint rip
I got it just for that reason. I was gutted.
Jeez, guys, don't shove these jokes down my throat.
*Edited by Mike Stoklasa*
No WONDER the diarrhea scene was on screen for so long!!
4 seconds
It went on much longer in the actual movie. :/
Also look at the Jay closeup when Jim even mentions the cannibal movie. These guys are hilarious with the way they rib each other.
I’m sorry! The force of the diarrhea has torn right through my trousers! It must have been the steak volcano quesomacharito! I keep sh***ing! I can’t stop sh***ing! I’m literally sh***ing on Star Wars!
This has to be the most shocking “Edited by” reveal on this entire channel. I guess it goes along with that one scene
Me and a friend came across this movie randomly on a streaming service and saw the thumbnail and were like "Neat, Kurt Russell cowboy movie, let's watch that!"
We were not prepared.
That scene still gives me shivers.
Having cleaned deer in my younger days, I can attest that the audio really added to the shock value. Since it was more believable than most movies.
It made me laugh
@@NefariousKoel bro they added wayyyy more cronch sounds than youd hear skinning anything
Any time I think about this movie I feel a sharp pressure in that space between my balls and my butthole.
It freaked meout a bit. The gore was realistically over the top. I've seen it a lot in Korean horror movies, like one Korean movie involving a lunatic chasing people down and murdering them with a hammer; it seemed too real to me.
Jim has to be the most underrated guest on this channel. Dude’s hilarious.
But how is he underrated? Everybody loves him.
Stellvia Heonheim I thought he was from Mexico.
FraversWrath I was unaware of this. Good.
FraversWrath He’s underrated because 90% of the comment section doesn’t recycle jokes about him like a certain other person in RLM videos.
Forte224 Is Jim replacing Rich Evans?
Mathew Fox is absolutely perfect in this movie.
I too didn't realize it was him at first, but kept wondering why he looked so familiar. Christ even David Arquette was good in this. But Michael Jenkins was my favorite by far.
yea his scene with the horse, so much emotion, i almost expected him to fall to the ground and hug the horse before he had to do it, the pain in his face was so real
He's pretty underrated as an actor. He had some bad episodes in Lost, but was otherwise pretty decent there too
yeah, i hated him in lost, but he was actually enjoyable to watch in this film.
Had this movie taken place 20 years ago, there’s no question Michael Biehn would have been casted for that role
Jay's morbid excitement, the camera zooming in, and knowing Mike was probably editing when Jim brings up the green inferno is some comedy gold
24:45
You're timestamp is appreciated, it helped me out in ways you couldn't imagine, Everytime you leave a timestamp, you feed 10 hungry children via butterfly effect. Sometimes though, you cause a typhoon in a 3rd world village.
I've always thought of Patrick Wilson as more of a dramatic version of Will Arnett tbh :)
That poor unfortunate hair line :(
I've always thought the same thing. It's unfortunately been an uphill climb for me to be able to take him seriously as an actor bc they look so much alike. I think he's phenomenal, but it took ages for me to see anything other than Will Arnett. Same with Karl Urban and Adam Scott. Took me forever to mentally separate those two because the resemblance was so strong.
ah ha ha so true
Hmm, I always thought of Will Arnett as a funny version of Stephen Dillane.
Yes! That's it! I always thought he looked like someone but couldn't figure it out. But that's it!
"All those moments will be lost in time, like troglodytes in caves."
Time...to die...from AIIIIIIDS!
I saw Sean Young and I claaapped!!!
It’s too bad the Trogodytes won’t live. But then again, who does?
@@frankmerker630 does maschine trogodytes dreams of sheeps, in caves?
Like those pregnant blind women in those caves.
What a fun romp!
I was skeptical
at first but you guy's have really convinced me to watch Christmas Chronicles
It's just a good holiday movie.
Its a great movie. Kurt Russel being Kurt Russel in a Santa Claus outfit
Guys* Apostrophes aren't used to make plurals.
@@englishatheart Hay your write.
@@Ki_Adi_Mundi Yaw knot rong.
Just a side note, Mathew fox’s character didn’t lose a wife and daughter to natives, it was his mom and sister when he was 10 years old. He specifically says in the movie “I’m the smartest one here” “smart men don’t get married”
He clearly wanted the audience to be annoyed with Matthew Fox's character. We might be satisfied to know his character was an involuntarily unmarried; like no woman could stand him enough to marry him. I just watched Bone Tomahawk. It kind of freaked me out. I had to stop watching it and walk out a couple of times. I don't recommend it for everyone.
@@troy3456789it's cowboys vs Cannibals 😂 No way as an adult you couldn't handle that
@@johndiddilyjoe6258 We don't get to choose what makes us uncomfortable, or what we laugh off.
@@troy3456789 I agree with you on not recommending it to everyone. I personally loved it and will probably rewatch it soon, but everyone has different tastes.
For example Jay and Jim discussed those gross-out Italian cannibal films in this video, and those are movies that I absolutely will not watch since I have no interest in watching real animals being killed or the over the top exaggerated violence. Somebody could call me a pussy for that, but we all have different limits.
@@samlosco8441 Well sir, we do not get to control what we like and what we don't like and what makes us queasy. I have no rational explanation as to why my boredom meter goes up when I am presented with watching a romantic comedy to watch. A movie about gay men or if it has men kissing in it would also cause me to be nauseous. I have no idea why I like certain movies and why I do not like others; nor does anyone else. Also, I cannot stand sweet potatoes, no matter how much I want to like them. We don't get to choose what we like or don't like.
Jay reacts to hearing about Green Inferno the same way Mike reacts to hearing Star Trek.
WAMatt I know lol. I didn’t even like the movie tbh
@@tamapajamas I did like Green Inferno much more than Cabin Fever and slightly less then Hostel, but that's not saying much.
@@nemanjajovanov Green Inferno is just a lamer Cannibal Holocaust.
Terry B - none of those movies really impressed me. If I watch horror it needs to be really gory. Like French horror flicks.
@@tamapajamas That doesn't impress us
A Kurt Russell movie? Now they're just teasing us with that Escape from LA re:View.
We'll get that one right after they re:View Ishtar.
didn't they already do Escape from LA ?
@@ikymetaverse2377 Colin and Jay did a mini-re:View on it during In the Mouth of Madness.
No, I'm sure it's a Captain Ron retrospective.
Overboard
I do kinda wish The Professor appeared in more than one scene. Zahn McClarnon is a fantastic actor (Fargo, Westworld, Longmire, The Son) and it would’ve been cool to have seen his tense relationship with Brooder explored more. Still a fantastic movie.
Agreed. He was great in the few bits he got. I also appreciate what he was there for, to set the troglodytes apart from normal Native Americans, but he felt a little too token. Having him be an actual character would have made it feel a little more sincere.
On the other hand, the balance they struck with the group they ended up choosing was so perfect that I wouldn't want to upset it. That's the problem with having a cast this good, someone is going to end up with the short end of the stick.
First time I've seen any comment on here reference The Son, which is probably my second favorite show that came out of AMC, right after The Terror. Classic late 1800s, early 1900s western epic.
jay's dad is right: going into this movie blind is such a great experience.
It wasn't just the audience that went in this movie blind!
I bought this movie at the discount rack at Walmart and I bought it cause of Kurt Russell. Best purchase and immediate got the blu-ray
voodoochile333 I might embellish it and change some details
Literally the same experience but through Amazon Prime.
now try Dragged Across Concrete
pardon me, but did you just say you bought the movie, watched it, and immediately bought another copy??!
I did that with Tombstone.
You guys are right about his DnD interest, he cited it as his inspiration for storytelling. I think there are elements to his films where that is directly visible, such as the group dynamic in Bone Tomahawk or the progression of the protagonist in Brawl in Cell Block 99. We actually shot a DnD campaign going through Bone Tomahawk and it works perfectly. His books are all fantastic also, I'm a huge Zahler fan, extended re:View's for his other films would be awesome
Yes! I was thinking how much the journey and story felt like I was witnessing a D&D campaign unfold in front of me. Thanks for making this point. I love you. Goodbye.
@@gabe135 No, wait come back. I wanted to tell you that you were right about him being right.
A Congregation of Jackels is such a great book. He has a raw talent for words.
I didnt think about that. Thats awesome
Vince Vaughn is a dnd player too..
I love living in Japan, where they literally title the film "Tomahawk: Gunman vs. Cannibals" so the spoiler is right there in the title.
To be fair, the movie is so what it is, that title also wouldn't really prepare you for what you're about to watch.
not much of a spoiler
What's Empire Strikes Back over there, Sword Knight vs Father Samurai?
They called it "Cannibal border" here in Mexico.
...at best foreshadowing
S. Craig Zahler is a future cult filmmaker. His other two movies, Brawl in Cell Block 99 and Dragged Across Concrete are both amazing!
Bone Tomahawk is an amazing film and one of the most underrated films in recent memory. Love that you guys are giving it a spotlight. The modern western genre keeps on gifting us with these gems.
If you have shit taste in movies than I agree.
@Everyman Ellitinik you're right, it's not half bad. It's below average you idiot.
@@JimBob-gv3ry Imagine being this idiotic in your everyday life.
the torture scene is one of , if not the most disturbing thing I have ever seen on film
It was an amazing movie. I was floored how real and genuine it felt. Like being there.
If there's a part in this film that made Jay's jaw drop, it's WAY beyond the pale for me.
Worst thing I've ever seen in a movie. And I've seen some awful stuff.
Great film!
Yeah, I wish I could unwatch that scene. It's shocking and horrible in a way I can't hope to adequately describe. But yeah...great film!
Made the mistake of watching high. Truly gruesome
What makes it kinda worse for me is the fact it's actually true that being split in half like that would keep you alive until the last moment as it makes all the blood rush to your head to keep you alive and conscious.
@@Derek_Keenan lol ye I think it's best we leave that one untested.
One thing I love about this film is that the town of Bright Hope is probably my favorite portrayal of a town in a Western yet. Everybody there, everybody feels like a real person - not a character. There's no set pieces to highlight how cool or badass the main characters are, no real fuss is made over anyone. It just shows them in every day life. It's pretty great, honestly.
"That Paramount ranch burned down last summer-"
"Why would you bring that up?"
Jay's expressions make this episode
I love how it immediately cut and it never was brought up again rofl
😂
Not sure what that was all about but the Paramount Ranch seemed like a sore spot.
I've been waiting for this since Bone Tomahawk came out.
Four years in the making.
This movie is amazing I was so surprised when I saw it.
Me too. I saw that scene and went oh shit! I wanna see what these guys thought. I was hyped when they off handedly mentioned Bone Tomahawk last year.
Same! When I first saw it, I quickly thought “Jay would love this movie.”
Only took like four years
This guy also made brawl in cell block 99 which was amazing as well.
And Dragged Across Concrete which is amazing as well.
Vince Vaughn as a total badass is something I never thought it could be possible. Hats off to this man.
@@shinesparker1169 Vince Vaughn's redemption arc is the best.
Thank you so much for saying something related to the movie instead of some shitty, cringey in-joke.
Hell ya
One of the really disturbing things they didn't touch on was the blind amputee "broodmares".
This part stuck to me even more than "that scene"... It's one thing to die horrifically, living in a prolonged torment like that is beyond nightmarish.
It cannot be overstated how good Zahler's books are. Especially if you liked Bone Tomahawk, his western novels are the exact same tone.
I'm reading Wraiths of the Broken Land right now. Dude that first chapter with the dog made me put the book down for the rest of the night. A Congregation of Jackals was gruesome too but Wraiths is straight up cruel.
.....Can't wait to read the rest of his books tho
@@rawkguy4896 Is it Blood Meridian levels of cruel?
One of the most underrated horror movies I think I really love it also shows that we can still do a lot more with Westerns
@@chinabluewho agreed
kurt russell was side splitting fun!
ayeeeeee O!!!!
wah waaah
I see what you did there. 😉
Audiences had split reactions.
@@mystymysty3667 , half have the appetite for such a movie. The other half just lost their appetite.
If noticing a severed hand is an indication of a quality film, suburban Sasquatch is a masterpiece
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I mean, it is, so the argument holds up!
Craig Zahler, Robert Eggers, and Taylor Sheridan represent the next generation of America's finest writer/director talent. Of course, Zahler can claim one additional job title, because he does compose some cool music for his films. A modern day Carpenter.
Your list is missing Jeff Nichols. If you haven't watched his movies, I recommend you watch them all. Everyone is great. "Take Shelter," "Mud,", and "Midnight Special" are all good places to start.
there are still carpenters
Robert Eggers is out of steam completely.
Also, Mike Flanagan and Noah Hawley got game.
@@funeralforahorse lol why even say that before nosferatu
Matthew Fox has always been a solid actor. He filmed on my college campus for We Are Marshall. He's the one who made that movie tolerable with his portrayal of Red Dawson, which the real Red Dawson called so accurate that it helped him cope with the tragedy depicted in the film.
And he's a great Jack Shephard.
I think he's a great actor (especially in Lost). It's just that Jack is so unlikeable for most of the show. But that's on purpose.
Nobody’s Shadow I think it’s because he beats the shit out of women.
Matthew Fox is amazing.
@@jamesl4185 - He was apparently charged for drunkenly beating up a female bus driver (which were later dropped), but also charged for a drunken bar brawl and drunk driving. A feminist co-star on Lost would spin it as "beating the shit out of women" so if you're into that then whatever.
They touched on the dialogue, and the sorta subtle 'stage play/theatre' affect, but what makes a lot of this film work is the lyrical quality of the dialogue, the voices, and the exchanges. It really makes every scene possess a sorta thematically melodic tempo to it, that draws out the dialogue and pulls in the audience's ear.
It's a lot of what makes this film work.
I'm surprised that nobody points out how each of the lead characters represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse. I haven't seen any review that actually mentions that, with most just nodding to there being four riders and, therefore, being like an apocalypse. The Sheriff is War (organizes the battle), Brooder is Death (pale horse, killed hundreds), Chicory is Famine (poor, always hungry), and O'Dwyer is Pestilence (injury, later getting infected). It's not like it changes the movie to see all that, but it's just odd that it isn't pointed out in any reviews, on Wikipedia or even just in IMDb's trivia.
Jeff™ is this a fact for an observation? I think it’s cool either way 😊
@@tamapajamas Just my observation, but little pieces of dialogue that aren't plot-specific, like Chicory begging for the sheriff's food, make it look intentional. I don't know how to fact-check it, but I'd sure love to hear if Zahler did it on purpose.
I believe the end credit song even says four horsemen road out.
Interesting...thinking...thinking...that is a most excellent observation. If it ain't true, it ought to be. Seriously though, you might be on to something. Thanks for that.
Brother, you ever heard of pareidolia? I think you've got some of it.
This movie checks a lot of boxes for me. Great dialogue, beautiful imagery, excellent performances, horrific gory brutality and the faintest tinge of otherworldliness.
Excuse me, but it's "Former WCW Heavyweight Champion" David Arquette thank you very much!
@Jeremy Backman Yeah but it's good for a laugh.
So awesome to have the guys talk about this movie! I got to help do the special effects for the film. One of the best times ever, Kurt Russell is the coolest guy in the world!
Great job on the special effects!
Holy shit, hope you didn't work on THAT scene 😅
Great work!
I imagine 10 years from now there'll be video essays, and regular ol' essays about the end when Chicory looks down at a rock he's had a death grip on, and tosses it aside.
That cut the dude in half scene actually did put me in a funk for a week or so. I wasnt prepared for that kind of degrading violence. Great film though.
One of the most terrifying scenes ever made .
Great movie
When they said to watch the movie before this re:View, I did just that. "That scene" wrecked me so bad I almost fainted. 10/10!
That "smart me don't get married" joke got me during the movie it was perfect at defusing tension.
Wasn’t it brooders mother and sister who died?
He said he didn’t get married. And he also said he was ten years old when it happened.
yep! Don't think Jays dad had rewatched the movie before doing this
Yep also O'Dwyer wasn't a construction worker he was a cowboy
@@jwalkerfitz7827well wait I just rewatched it he talked about becoming a foreman just before he gets his injury
I cried when the flea circus story was being told; I honestly thought he was going to die next because I assumed they were telling the story to make you feel more for him right before he was killed off. I did not want him to die as viciously as the other guy did. Well it worked, just not in the way I thought.
Cowboys vs cannibals: Ravenous (1999) Incidentally, also with David Arquette.
I was thinking of Ravenous too. Loved the sound design in that movie
Guy Pearce FTW
Waco Ever play RDR1 with zombies
How could Jay miss that?
*Unsubscribed*
Were they cowboys though? Or union soldiers?
I know a couple of guys who worked with Craig K-something on the sound effects for Tomahawk, and they went through every iteration of every type of sound for THAT scene and it set the palette for the entirety of the movie in stone when they landed it, but the entire thing is a masterclass in sound mixing and design, everything has a visceral presence to it. I just build sets, but I appreciate how much of the world sound creates.
There is a genre for this, but not in film. It's western horror and "Bone Tomahawk" reminded me a lot of the old Robert E. Howard western horror stories. There was a lot of Lovecraft that bled through to Howard.
it catapulted craig zahler to the top of my list of directors who should adapt blood meridian by cormac mccarthy
You should check out Joe Lansdale some time if you've not heard of him. He's done quite a lot of western horror, and is just a great writer all around no matter what genre he's dipping into.
@@ButchCurry Oh yeah, Landsale's great. .
I definitely got LC vibes from Bone Tomahawk, the Savages being so very very different from anything "civilised", what they did to their mothers... if there had been just a small hint towards Cho Cho people or something, I wouldn't have found it out of place.
@@pyenapple The Guy Pearce one? Kinda but definitely doesn't reach the heights of horror that it ought to, that one single chase sequence with the horrible music is kind of the biggest issue. The "licking" scene is pretty offputting but past that chase it's just kind of hard to take it seriously.
Never had a more satisfying "going in cold" experience than with this movie.
Had no idea what to expect and it blew me away.
This is an absolutely brutal movie
but in a good way
Richard Jenkins deserves as much love as JK Simmons. For me, the breakout film for both is Burn After Reading, which is in my experience deeply underrated.
I consider Richard Jenkins the ACTUAL star of Bone Tomahawk. He stole scenes he wasn't even in because I was still thinking about him in the prior scene.
@@AxeMan808
Lol well said, and true.
He's great in Killing Them Softly.
S. Craig Zahler is one of the few directors left that give me hope for the future of big budget cinema. His writing is always superb (if a little too ostentatious at times) and his characters feel real, with real personalities and goals. I'm so glad you guys discussed this movie on a Re:View.
Jim is the BEST I kinda want him to star in a RLM movie someday. The good one everyone is waiting for them to make.
I could really see him as the private eye in a film noir... I've no idea how a RLM made film noir would look like but now I want one XD
I thought Bone Tomahawk was going to be a nasty gratuitous gross out film, but I was very surprised with a well rounded film with gross out violence
Zahler is super talented in that his stories never feel like they’re violent just for the sake of it, and his characters are incredible.
This movie was surprisingly amazing.
It actually reminds me kind of "The 13th Warrior". A group of Vikings getting theri villages assaulted and seek out to destroy the intruders. Just to find out they are canibals.
12:22 Unless I'm mis-remembering, it was his mother and sister.
Correct. Jay's dad needs to watch the movie a 9th time I think!
Who ever said that your sister can’t also be your daughter?
Reminds me a lot of 13th Warrior
Speaking of Kurt Russell movies that are intense: Breakdown is worth a watch. That's so good.
Unlawful Entry is pretty fun as well
Love that reaction shot from Jay when Jim starts talking about Green Inferno.
It's so hard to pull off a genre switching movie that doesn't feel disconnected and disjointed. It is a great film and a showcase in how to pull it off.
I was wondering you boys were going to talk about Zahler's movies.
His book, "Wraiths of the Broken Land" is amazing as well.
@@Thomaswake They actually reviewed that! Search their 2018 End of year Film Roundup, they have the section timecoded.
@@heyheyodelay Thanks for that
The light jazz selection in the background of this re:View helps, I think, make this one of my favorite episodes. These two from the crew work well together as well.
After seeing that scene in the cave, I had to pause the movie and walk away for a good hour before watching the rest of it. I never had a movie do that to me.
@@prince-solomon you're a tool lol
@@prince-solomon How dare I feel emotion while watching a film. I will never tear up during a sad movie, laugh during a comedy, or feel horror while watching a horror movie like this one ever again. It's all fake so why would I feel anything! Thank you. Thank you for opening my eyes.
3:10 to Yuma, True Grit & Bone Tomahawk are three modern (or remade) western movies that I could watch over & over. Well, those & The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
"All I can see is the script". Great way of explaning why Tarantino movies - to some (like me) - don't really work anymore.
This movie was an unexpected fun. Kurt Russell was amazing in it. Instantly clicked on this re: view.
24:10 It's not exactly "Cowboys VERSUS Cannibals", but Ravenous is pretty close. And it also has David Arquette.
Ravenous is the only other western meets cannibal movie that comes to mind for me. Interestingly also features David Arquette.
It's because northern Indians weren't cannibals, it's totally made up.
The Karankawa of the Texas coast are said to have practiced ritual cannibalism
Aaaay, a re:View of a movie I've actually seen!
I found your ring.
@@FortWhenTeaThyme What a fool you are. You and I are about to become... _very_ close.
@@Fargoth_Ur Our sugar is yours, friend.
You haven't seen the predator?
@@tweetibird88 Oh yeah, that too. I guess it would be more accurate to say that Bone Tomahawk is a _relatively_ more obscure movie that I've actually seen beforehand.
Cant wait till they talk about THAT scene!
Which one? Lol
Dicks outs for man getting ripped in half!
@@davewilson5413 don't look at me like that. It was a wasted oppurtunity.. Cinematicaly speaking.
yikes
I know what you're talking about... You're talking about the scene where Dan Akroyd's nose looks like a penis, right?
I watched this last night and couldn't sleep because of the ending. It was truly terrific and made me sick to my stomach to which I couldn't sleep.
"Weird Westerns" is the genre. "Ravenous" is another good cannibal flick.
Bone Tomahawk is basically The Hills Have Eyes (especially the remake) but as a Western.
I was never a big fan of Jim’s when I first saw him in RLM content but the more I see the more I like of him. I really enjoy his insights in these re:View’s he really knows what he’s talking about
Aaron M I was a bit embarrassed to say that exact same thing. Big fan of Jim now
You gotta follow him on Twitter, his is one of those accounts that don't make you hate Twitter.
Craplatte o nice!! I had no idea he was on there I’ll definitely do that
Definitely one of the best original flicks I've seen in years. Watched it on a whim and was completely enthralled the whole time
Matthew Fox's character was so entertaining in this, even if he was over the top (like a lot of things in this but it worked out.) Really good cast all around and the genre combining worked well too. So glad you guys did a re:View of this.
Cowboys & cannibals - 1999: Ravenous.
And holy shit - David Arquette is in both Ravenous and Bone Tomahawk!
That's one hell of an accomplishment - to be in not one, but TWO cowboys & cannibals movies.
Totally watched this because of the recommendation Jay gave from a previous video (I'm forgetting which) and went in blind. Glad you're finally talking more about it cause boy, what a movie that was!
I watched this at random one night and wow, what a movie.
*me leaning over to whisper to my girlfriend*
"Thats the bone tomahawk"
Great performances in it. It was nice to see Sean Young again. I hadnt seen her since Blade Runner
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She's great in it.
I started watching this re:View having never seen this movie. As they were talking about it, I realized I wanted to see it without it being spoiled, which is not the first time a re:View has done that. So I paused it and went and watched the movie. I'm back now. Got to say, I am not a squeamish man, but holy shit, THAT scene!
Loved the trivia in this one. Thanks, Jim, and to Mike for editing in the shots!
Holy backlight.
It’s Jaysus.
As soon as Jim said he went in blind and Jay said, "spoilers," I stopped the video to go watch, came back, and observed that I had every single same reaction that these guys had regarding the movie. Loved it. Jaw dropped. Watched scenes multiple times to see that hand. Santa WAS perfect.
This just makes want to see them discuss The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, which is another movie i think didn't get enough of an audience.
Didn't they cover it on Half in the Bag? I still need to see it, I don't know why I have yet to watch a new Coen Brothers western. I loved the "True Grit" remake.
You guys are awesome! Keep on making excellent videos! Your humor is always on-point!
I’m so happy there have been pretty good westerns coming out recently. Bone Tomahawk, hateful eight, django unchained, Even magnificent seven was decent and of course the “balled of buster Scruggs.”
Jay says he's never seen anything like this, cowboys versus cannibals. For some reason it reminded me of The 13th Warrior, except that was a big-budget studio movie directed by John McTiernan. Antonio Banderas plays an Arab who teams up with a bunch of Vikings to track down a group of cave-dwelling cannibals. But I haven't seen it in a long time, the comparison may not be that apt.
Reminded me of the 13th warrior as well, love that one.
It’s not an unfair comparison; one culture banging up against a completely alien tribe... that eats people.
Can we talk about Jay’s fade?
That’s a nice fade.
glad to hear you guys talk about this movie! i saw it a couple years ago and have been trying to convince people to watch it ever since, happy to see it get some well deserved attention
Another great episode guys! I love Bone Tomahawk! A great underrated gem!
Just watched the movie for the first time. Had no idea that was Richard Jenkins until watching this. What a great actor
Great movie, starts off as True Grit and ends up as CAnnibal Holocaust.
So happy you guys re:viewed this one. I am in love/horrified with this movie.
Love these break downs SO MUCH! My only complaint is I want more!