Native American Sites of the Chicago Region - Glen Ellyn

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  • @madmattdigs9518
    @madmattdigs9518 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This channel is a gem. I’m in Glen Ellyn every day. And I didn’t know these sites existed here. It’s sad that there’s really nothing left of them.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for the kind words and for watching our videos! We very much appreciate it! Indeed, a big part of our goal in presenting this information is to remind folks of the many places that Native Americans once occupied, settled, lived in the Chicago region. it is too easy to forget and overlook that fact. Agreed too that most of these places have been utterly wiped clean of their archeological record. Thanks for the comment!

  • @MrSpartyhawk
    @MrSpartyhawk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is wonderful. I grew up in Villa Park, lived in Addison, camped there as a cub scout and frequently drove past Churchill Woods but never knew it had been home to a Potawatomi settlement.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad that you found this informative! One of our goals is to make the habitation sites of Native Americans more real and tangible, which helps us all to better understand that they were real people going about their lives, raising their families. Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @markdykstra334
    @markdykstra334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope you do Palos / Mount Forest soon! Ive also heard that Oak Lawn had some native activity along Stoney Creek by Oak Lawn lake.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching and commenting! These sites are on our growing list of Chicagoland Native American sites. Part of our goal is to show how widespread and prevalent these sites are in the Chicago region. It is easy to forget that many people once lived here, long before we came into the picture. Thank you again!

  • @BeHistoric
    @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thomas Mackowiak
    1 month ago
    Thank you for this introduction of Native American Sites in the Chicago Region. This new series should be interesting and informative. Are you going to concentrate on Native American Sites in the DuPage area or are you also going to be covering other areas of the Chicago Region?
    BeHistoric
    1 month ago
    Thanks for watching and the continuing support! It is much appreciated. We hope to hit DuPage, Cook, Lake, and Will counties, and possibly others, when all is said and done - but that's going to take quite a while, as there are so many sites to cover. :-)
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    Joe Budde
    1 month ago
    It is beyond difficult to know and understand what the DuPage area was actually like before European explorers entered the area and established their own society. Your previous research into the area in which you provided pictures was an eye opener, between mastodons & the ice age through the 20th Century expansion the area has been totally changed, you're research is appreciative yet can only spark our curiosity of what it was like when it was inhabited by these early humans.
    BeHistoric
    1 month ago
    Thanks for watching the video, for supporting the channel, and for the thoughtful comment. It is indeed difficult to imagine how different the landscape must have been just a few hundred years ago, let alone 10,000 years ago. But different it was! Our videos represent a meager attempt to reconstruct these landscapes - or to just snatch a glimpse of it. Thanks again!
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    Paul Oyen
    1 month ago
    Such a rich area for prehistoric and early Western civilization study,
    The old map you found is most fascinating, as it provides the best clues for habitation, crude and vague as it is.
    Can you make a copy of this map available in .PDF for your interested viewers to study? I have been deeply fascinated by maps.of all kinds since childhood. I have actually illustrated a city map of a significant Detroit suburb, when I lived nearby.
    Your video quality seems clearer and more detailed than prior episodes. The intro video is especially mezmorizing.
    BeHistoric
    1 month ago
    Thanks very much for watching and commenting! Your suggestion regarding a link to one of the Scharf maps is an excellent one. There are many online sources of the 1901 Scharf map. One of the sources that we used is from the University of Michigan. Here is the link: quod.lib.umich.edu/w/wcl1ic/x-6675/wcl006741
    Thanks very much regarding the kind words about the intro. We did want to make something compelling, as we do believe it to be a compelling and multi-faceted story - from the hundreds of sites in the area, to the peoples that lived in these places - to the people that attempted to document it in the most recent centuries.
    Note that Scharf actually produced dozens of maps - multiple versions of the Chicagoland area - and then also detailed maps of the various regions within the Chicago area. The detailed maps alone number around fifty. Then he also produced maps of southern Wisconsin, northern Indiana, southern Michigan, and northern Illinois in the 1910 to 1920 timeframe. It was a singular achievement for the time.
    We unfortunately can't explain the clarity of this video versus earlier videos. We are using the same cameras, the same editors, and rendering at 4K, as we've always done. But very glad that it looks better to you! 🙂
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    SassyBLV
    3 weeks ago
    I am a Native American history addict when it comes to the Chicago suburbs. I grew up in Barrington learning all about various Indian Villages in the surrounding areas learning the history, always looking for artifacts still to this day. Please explore the Fox River areas- Barrington, Carpentersville, Algonquin, Fox River Grove- Cary, Lake Zurich and even Palatine and Schaumburg area. There were major Indian Trails running through these suburbs. Ela Road from Lake Zurich to Schaumburg (Salt Creek) is said to have several burial mounds along the road. Helm Woods on the border of Carpentersville is the highest point in Cook County with a Village dating back 12,000 years. I could go on and on. I have done a lot of exploring and research trying to locate mounds/ sites and often use the Albert Scharf map. I have found many sites dating back 10,000- 12,000 years. This area is extremely rich in Native American history. There was also a signal site in North Barrington now called Signal Hill Road. It was on top of a high hill surrounded by what once was a large Indian Village. It is all so interesting isn't it. I love your videos and cannot wait for more!!!! Thank you so much!!!!
    BeHistoric
    3 weeks ago
    Thanks very much for watching and supporting our channel! And that's too for the interesting and informative comment. Yes, fully agree that there are a huge number of potential sites to explore in the Chicago region. But we shouldn't be too surprised by this, as we know that people have been living in the area for 10,000 years or more. It is hard to imagine sometimes with the vast stretch of city and suburbia stretching for tens of miles in every direction. Keep on searching! Perhaps we'll run into you on one of our investigations. Thank you again!
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    GOMF 3602
    1 month ago
    Very well done. I used the same map to teach local history to my students. I also have a good friend who is a descendent of the Churchill family. We were able to pinpoint the location of the cabin of Seth Churchill, the son of Deacon Winslow further east along St. Charles Road on the north side of the road. Their family history indicates that not only were they friendly with the native Americans, but that Deacon Winslow was himself part Native American. In any event we have explored that whole area and found some incredibly huge oak trees in a swampy area in Churchill Woods north of St. Charles that are likely old growth that were never cut due to the area being too wet to remove. Erastus Ketchum, who you mentioned, was a premier hunter and trapper and was known to have interacted very positively with the Native Americans. This should be a wonderful series. Thanks again.
    BeHistoric
    1 month ago
    Wow! We should have brought you in to consult on this video! Thanks for providing that additional information. That is indeed very interesting! We are glad that you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
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    Pat Sand
    3 weeks ago
    I lived on Walnut Road which dead ends into the woods. As kids, we went back to a hill in those woods called “Indian Hill” because of Indian artifacts found there. Have you investigated that area?
    BeHistoric
    3 weeks ago
    That's very, very interesting. We were not aware of that appellation to that area. But it makes sense - as it was one of multiple possible sites along the glacial ridge, which Albert Scharf labeled as a signal station - but which was much more likely a habitation site, if there were any artifacts found there. We'll have to visit that location in the coming days! Thank you for sharing that information!
    Pat Sand
    3 weeks ago
    @BeHistoric I hope you do. Easiest way to get there is go to the end of Walnut Road and walk in. Or do to the Taylor Avenue overpass and walk east on the Prairie Path. There were paths that went from the Prairie Path into those woods on the north side of the prairie Path. The hill sits quite a bit higher than the area around it.
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    M. V.
    1 month ago
    Hope you get down to the Chicago Heights area woods and tell us about that area sometime! Thank you.
    BeHistoric
    1 month ago
    We hope to! Thank you for watching and commenting!
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    Lori Vincze
    2 weeks ago
    you can access Churchhill woods via Great western bike path before Swift Rd.
    BeHistoric
    2 weeks ago
    Thanks for commenting! Yes, our statement in the video was not entirely accurate. It is difficult to reach the southern portion of Churchill Woods FP, where the Potawatomi settlement was located, by bicycle. As you point out, the north portion can be accessed via the Great Western Trail.
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  • @joannecouture2345
    @joannecouture2345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this look at Native American sites. I know how to get to Churchill Woods via bicycle. You go through the prairie section path on the NE corner of Swift Road & St. Charles Road. At the end of trail that exits to St. Charles Road, you ride down the frontage road to the east which takes you to a tunnel that goes under St. Charles road and you emerge into Churchill Woods.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that information! That's very useful. We should have clarified to say that there are no convenient ways to get to Churchill Woods from the south side of St Charles road, without riding along St Charles Road - which is not safe. Thanks for commenting and watching!

    • @Discovery_Overland
      @Discovery_Overland 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @BeHistoric I live right in the area. One could arrive from the great western trail, just to the north of st Charles off swift road. Go south on swift road and you’re there. You can actually walk your bike if you feel uncomfortable. And, you will walk right by the site of the Winslow Churchill cabin site. Get a bike map of the area and you’ll be fine. I’m sure some may prefer not to. Probably a good 10 -15 minute walk to the grounds.

  • @rickshonda70
    @rickshonda70 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for posting We have enjoyed everyone of your professionally put together investigations. We recently discovered a online aerial view map of our neighborhood .This was very interesting since there was a large tract of farmland across the street from our home in Villa Park Illinois from 1956, we would love to see the 1939 aerial view of DuPage county If you could share a link . Or possibly cover some of the old main roadways in one of your episodes.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks very much for watching our videos - we very much appreciate it! The old aerial photos are indeed fascinating to study - and you realize how much has changed in the past 100 years. For the 1939 aerial photos of DuPage County, you can find JPGs at the following link: clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/webdocs/ilhap/county/j_dupage.html
      You have to hunt through the photos, but you can usually narrow in to the area of interest fairly quickly. Thanks for commenting!

  • @patio87
    @patio87 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The separate chipping stations were probably for safety actually. Stone tools made from knapping chert or obsidian are extremely sharp, in fact obsidian shards can be sharper than is possible with metal. They probably had set locations where they did their work so that people weren't seriously injuring themselves having razor sharp shards around their habitation.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for commenting! That's an interesting observation. Safety, location of flint/chert resources, trails likely all played a role. And there may be other factors for which we have little or no understanding. Thanks again for commenting.

  • @BeHistoric
    @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HI FOLKS, THIS IS A RE-ISSUE DUE TO A COPYRIGHT CLAIM AGAINST BACKGROUND MUSIC. THE ORIGINAL VIDEO WAS PUBLISHED ON SEPTEMBER 6, 2022. COMMENTS FROM ORIGINAL VIDEO WILL BE PRESERVED IN THE COMMENT BELOW.

  • @chriswallbruch9523
    @chriswallbruch9523 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great episode! Please do a Lombard one!

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! That's an excellent suggestion! We will look into that topic!

  • @josephkarstens9592
    @josephkarstens9592 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well done

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and for the comment! We appreciate it!

  • @Discovery_Overland
    @Discovery_Overland 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Ada Harmon site on Main I have known about. It sits at a high point of land. It seems a very walkable distance from Churchill woods where the village was. Especially cutting through the prairies of the day as the crow flies.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be a few blocks west of the school and Lake Ellyn? Thanks for watching the video and for the interesting observation regarding the author, Ada Harmon. We used her book for a portion of our research in this video. Thanks again!

    • @Discovery_Overland
      @Discovery_Overland 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @BeHistoric yes, Hawthorne and Main are a couple blocks west of the school and lake ellyn. My understanding is that though now this area of Glen Ellyn is very wooded, in the day it was mostly prairie. So, that intersection would’ve had a very high view of the land around it. Is this what the Indians were looking for as a burial ground? I’m not sure but the valleys would’ve been wet. I have a copy of Ada Harmon’s book, I think printed in 1928. Also, recently I found images of the original surveyor’s plats for this area. They had hand written notes on them for what the found and observed. VERY interesting. I live near Stacy’s tavern so it was interesting to see what the land originally looked like, I.E. creeks, swamps, forests, etc. it is different now.

  • @chriswallbruch9523
    @chriswallbruch9523 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow - what a nice gesture! Thanks very much for that - we very much appreciate it!

  • @thomasmackowiak
    @thomasmackowiak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not certain what changes you made to this video, but I know that you uploaded this video a couple of weeks ago. It is a shame that TH-cam does not allow you to just replace the original video with a revised version. If that were the case, you could keep all the comments that were made in the upload. I did enjoy watching this video again!

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching a second time and commenting! Yes, the two versions are almost identical. The first had an issue with copyright related to the background music, as we had not thoroughly vetted it. Our bad. And so we decided to fix it by rerendering with known music and licensing. We also fixed a few very minor issues as long as we were rerendering. Agreed that TH-cam does not have a good way of handling re-issues such as this. All views and comments get obliterated as a result. We were able to preserve the previous comments, however, which we were glad about - as we read and consider every one. Nor do the TH-cam algorithms like re-issues, as they typically do much worse than a new video, and so their algorithms then punish subsequent videos. However, it was worth it to us to get it right. Thanks for asking!

  • @GOMF-eq4qc
    @GOMF-eq4qc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So nice, I watched it again.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching it a second time! Very much appreciate your support!

  • @joshx022
    @joshx022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Churchill woods is a beautiful place if you pretend the homes surrounding don't exist. I really wish illinois would permit metal detecting in the area, I'd love to find Potawatomi artifacts to send to the museum. On my hikes with my daughter through there, we've had deer walk right up to us for love. Craziest thing. Couple months ago a Gardner snake curled up next to my foot for a nap...it's like the animals there are at constant peace.
    I've been going there for 40 years. Beautiful video.
    I'm still upset they dammed it up and didn't fix the oxidation problem the lake has....walk a bit west down the river and you'll see thousands of spawning carp during spawn season...which makes me know exactly why they settled there...
    A lot of fern still grows in the forest.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad that you enjoyed the video. Yes, Churchill Woods is indeed a place of solace - an exceptional small forest preserve, with a lot of history and prehistory.

  • @michaelpazanin1649
    @michaelpazanin1649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thornton Illinois has a get site ! Wampum woods ,

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and the suggestion! That's interesting. We'll check into it.

  • @TCREGAN1
    @TCREGAN1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I see a Horse Head when looking at the Map!

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very interesting! Yes, you can see quite a bit in these old maps! Thanks for watching and commenting!