The urgent 2024 moves suddenly disrupting F1's driver market

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  • @exp2745
    @exp2745 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +864

    I love that this year, both the Constructors and Destructors Championship are incredibly tight.

    • @aliakseimemelau3
      @aliakseimemelau3 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Perez got himself a healthy lead, but his form is dwindling, 0 points in the last couple of races. Sargeant is charging, what a shame it would be if he got axed while running for the title. Also, Gasly is still scoreless, he has to get his act together.

    • @wohnie39
      @wohnie39 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@aliakseimemelau3 he got axed, guess perez wins it this year. logan had a nice run, really tried to get that lead in zandvoort

    • @arroe8386
      @arroe8386 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@wohnie39 Maybe Magnusson will cause some incidents when he's blocking the field for Hulk

  • @lewisatkinson7277
    @lewisatkinson7277 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +424

    Whatever about his abilities, it's important to acknowledge the fact that Logan seems like a very decent guy and a consummate professional. Here's hoping he has a fruitful career in other classes.

    • @jstoli996c4s
      @jstoli996c4s 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      He does seem like a decent guy, but clearly out of his league in F1. Perhaps he could be an option for Prema when they enter Indycar.

    • @digitaldeathsquid3448
      @digitaldeathsquid3448 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I wonder how he'd fare in GT?

    • @Secretlyanothername
      @Secretlyanothername 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Thank you. These are drivers at the absolute limit and who would lap drivers in other classes

    • @Milkydrummer
      @Milkydrummer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@lewisatkinson7277 why is that important to acknowledge? …I mean I don’t disagree, but that is probably way down the priority list for teams looking for a driver. Ultimately he is there because he comes from wealth, and has no business on an F1 grid… it’s a story we see far too often.

    • @lewisatkinson7277
      @lewisatkinson7277 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Milkydrummer First off to try and support the guy in some way. In addition, at least, to help counter and offset the hate the poor guy is getting. And finally, by acknowledging his manner and professionalism compared to the other drivers who don't deserve to be on the grid for their lack of professionalism and courtesy to everyone around them. I can name two immediately - current WC and one who's daddy owns a team.
      That's why it's important.

  • @Milkydrummer
    @Milkydrummer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +237

    Fair play to Williams. Upgrading from Sargeant to Sainz is one hell of a jump!

    • @andrewsycamore3661
      @andrewsycamore3661 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      I think the pairing of Albon and Sainz is a good move. Both experienced drivers and able to help car development.

    • @SIXITHS
      @SIXITHS 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I looks like it will end very badly for Albon.
      Williams proved themselves incapable of building more then 2 cars, and have failed to bring updates for both of their cars this season..

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@SIXITHS What are you smoking? Yeah early on they didn't have parts but that is no longer true, they had enough spares to rebuild Sargeant's car, then Albon got P8 in quali a clear step up.

    • @ar17hd
      @ar17hd 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SIXITHS williams will be able to provide equal cars and development is still being done to albons liking hes very fine he will be pushed anmd it will bring his best

    • @Milkydrummer
      @Milkydrummer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@SIXITHS yeah I have to completely disagree. I think you’re expecting too much from Williams given the time it takes to build back from where they are. They’re in the process of overhauling their processes and procedures, facilities, but they now have proper investment, proper leadership, proper driver line ups, and once they’re able to utilise their upgrades I think they’ll do well. You might just be expecting too much too soon. This is a massive rebuilding job.

  • @AndyHack10
    @AndyHack10 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +501

    Poor Sargeant, but he's just not up to the task and needs to go.

    • @deeacosta2734
      @deeacosta2734 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      He's a nice guy but turrible.

    • @elwalker9034
      @elwalker9034 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      This is why they don't care for American drivers in F1.

    • @noinfo1018
      @noinfo1018 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Yea, he got unlucky with being called up so early but it’s his second year, even in worse machinery you should be better than this. Hoping he does good in Indycar if he goes there, he’s got a lot of talent. Just not cut out for F1

    • @pao_2031
      @pao_2031 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@elwalker9034 what does nationality have to do with it?

    • @Cirerin
      @Cirerin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      theres just no way they actually replace him before the end of the season, they could barely prepare a extra chassis for the start of the season i doubt vowels would be able to afford lawson or mick for 9 races lol

  • @tejasnannam4132
    @tejasnannam4132 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Well this video aged like fine milk😂

  • @EthelJung-j5w
    @EthelJung-j5w 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +161

    I’m American, but I think Logan has had enough. If he gets the boot early i’m alright with that. He’ll probably do better in Indycar next year.

    • @bonelessbeef
      @bonelessbeef 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Annoying bot

    • @buffhomer3
      @buffhomer3 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @bonelessbeef Bot or no, as another American i agree. Logan is a good kid, super nice and professional but he just "ain't got it" in F1. Too bad, I wanted him to do well.

    • @sz5876
      @sz5876 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I feel the same, but if he's on pace in an Indycar, it really shows that Indycars aren't much more than glorified F2 cars and our best drivers in the world might be a far cry from that. I hate to say that, having followed Indycar since 1982.

    • @MiguelTyson
      @MiguelTyson 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Another American here… his tenure as an F1 driver has been one of frustration. He was better in the lower categories of open wheel racing, but it is a different world compared to F1.
      He would fare better in a series similar to those categories of his youth.
      Indycar would be a good.
      He is a great driver, but he should not be piloting the Williams. Per my opinion.

    • @smokeybandit9760
      @smokeybandit9760 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@sz5876Well F2 cars and IndyCars might be similar on pace, but they are completely different in design and how they race. IndyCars are more agile throughout corners due to their smaller tires, but that is counteracted by their increase in weight recently and lower top speed. F2 cars handle like boats because of how much they weigh, but thats counteracted by their power and speed. A more accurate comparison to IndyCars would be Super Formula cars as they have similar designs and constructions to each other.

  • @Nikelaos_Khristianos
    @Nikelaos_Khristianos 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +158

    Feel like this should be said - as there’s quite a few Americans in particular missing the forest for the trees: Sargeant is not being dropped solely because he crashes - and it’s definitely not because “he’s American, Brits hate us!” (If anything, he partially got his seat because of his nationality, so false argument to begin with.) Instead, Williams can see the writing on the wall that has been there for the whole year. The guy is on a downward spiral - he doesn’t and won’t have a seat for next year - and he’s only going to make more mistakes as more and more pressure mounts and the more that he struggles.
    Fundamentally, if the guy is unhappy, and is becoming more unhappy the longer that he stays in F1, then it’s in the best interests of both parties to part ways

    • @rkentwenger5095
      @rkentwenger5095 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Unfortunately, I think the FIA really undervalues IndyCar in terms of Superlicence points, which makes it harder for more deserving American drivers to get onto the F1 grid.

    • @cereal-killer4455
      @cereal-killer4455 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Nobody is America is saying “Brits hate us”. So stop making stuff up to make a point. And yes there’s guys like Herta, Palou, Scott McLaughlin etc. who’d do pretty well in F1

    • @infidel1993
      @infidel1993 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@rkentwenger5095meh, I don’t think they undervalue it as much as most IndyCar teams and drivers undervalue F1 these days. As recently as the late 90’s, IndyCar was a legitimate feader series for F1, but then the CART/IRL split happened, and the rules/technology gap widened. On top of which, most drivers were content to stay in IndyCar because there was (and still is) plenty of domestic sponsorship money to go around. A solid IndyCar driver who consistently runs in the top 10 and manages to get a win or two can expect a healthy seven-figure salary. Meanwhile, in F2, you have to PAY THE TEAM anywhere from £1.5-3 million, either through personal sponsorships or out of pocket, just to compete. It’s brutal.

    • @tuffmanchannel
      @tuffmanchannel 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I disagree with the "downward spiral". There shouldn't be any more pressure, since he doesn't need to prove himself to get a seat that's not available anymore. He was on a good run of form before Belgium, and was decent enough in the Dutch GP (nothing great or deserving of a future seat, but still acceptable) If he can focus on enjoying the rest of his career, he can take some of the pressure off.

    • @EasyEli
      @EasyEli 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I have heard zero Americans say that Seargant is being dropped because he’s American…

  • @Erik_The_Viking
    @Erik_The_Viking 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +138

    I feel bad for Sargeant, but he's clearly getting worse. It's a sad situation at Williams when you could consider someone in their driver development program isn't good enough to replace him.

    • @greatscot04
      @greatscot04 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I like Logan, but he has not done enough in F1. Hopefully a move back to the States will reinvigorate his career.

    • @Erik_The_Viking
      @Erik_The_Viking 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@greatscot04 Agreed - he needs more development. I think he's capable but needs the extra help.

    • @AndrewXigna
      @AndrewXigna 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      yeah i feel like he could have a great career in indycar ahead of him

    • @BarbaricAvatar
      @BarbaricAvatar 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Why would you feel bad for him? He's crap.

    • @Person4148better
      @Person4148better 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@BarbaricAvatar bc he seems like a great guy, it's just a shame that a person with a good personality lose their seat

  • @DANNYonPC
    @DANNYonPC 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    And the seat went to Franco Colapinto

  • @divyaprakashsingh2294
    @divyaprakashsingh2294 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    As I was watching this, Williams announced Franco Colapinto as the new driver in place of Sargent for remainder of the season.

  • @rpitition5623
    @rpitition5623 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I was calling bs on this, then it called bs on me

  • @abcowell
    @abcowell 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

    long may the silly season™️ reign!

    • @Jimmy_Moon
      @Jimmy_Moon 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amen.

    • @jahrazkal
      @jahrazkal 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Might get longer than the longest F1 season.
      It's like overcompensating for the first F1 season without driver changes.

  • @DiamondMC
    @DiamondMC 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    One day after this video, Sargent gets replaced with Franco Colapinto for the rest of this season

  • @liukin95
    @liukin95 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I feel bad for Sargeant on a human level, but on a driver level, he's had plenty of chances to turn his F1 career around and he failed to step up. You don't perform, you're out!

    • @cecilcharlesofficial
      @cecilcharlesofficial 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. We have to remember - there's only one F1 in the world, and there are only 20 driver seats. I'm surprised there isn't more turnover, to be honest - but I guess I imagine thousands of really good drivers out there each year - I really don't know. Still, the best in the world should FEEL like the best and when it starts not to, people scratch their heads and get cynical.

  • @Durfeldorf
    @Durfeldorf 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Welp…this aged well

  • @misterkunnyfunt
    @misterkunnyfunt 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I really dont understand sauber not locking in Bottas for at least next season.
    Guy has a wealth of experience, a good attitude, strong professionalism, dosent crash often and occasionally gets out of Q1 in a car that has no business doing so.
    Just not a fan of mullets?😢

    • @TransmitHim
      @TransmitHim 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I find it bizarre that Haas went for Ocon over Bottas (if Bottas was indeed seriously open to a move there). Surely the deciding factor had to be cost (I can see Gene not wanting to pay the going rate for a 10 time GP winner) because there's no other metric where Ocon is a better choice than Bottas.

    • @theelf152
      @theelf152 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I like Valteri but even during his Williams career I did not see him as top flight racer - I thought he should not even drive for Mercedes. Obviously in a great team of professionals and great car you can achieve good things but any mid level racer in that team would have won 10GP's.

  • @yesdupmail
    @yesdupmail 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    I understand what merc are saying about keeping kimi in-house but surely half an F1 season (give or take) is better than a full season of F2 in a team that are absolutely nowhere? I think Toto is being too precious about having Kimi leap straight to Mercedes

    • @elwalker9034
      @elwalker9034 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      You said Kimi, I thought "Kimi's Back?" then I came to. Will take some getting use to.

    • @NJTRAF
      @NJTRAF 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I agree! Give him 8/9 races in an F1 car, get a little experience in the Formula, then promote him up to the Mercedes team while Williams get time to find a permanent replacement. The only downside is that he would be a crash risk

    • @DontuseGoogleorWiki
      @DontuseGoogleorWiki 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe Toto knows more than we do? But it would seem to be an obvious route

    • @josehuaman6603
      @josehuaman6603 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think Toto is afraid that giving Kimi a debut with Williams would be detrimental for his image. If he doesn't score points or if he crashes the car, people would said that Kimi isn't good enough for F1 and giving him the Mercedes seat next year is not fair.

    • @harshu7954
      @harshu7954 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@josehuaman6603 But that's better, no? If he is not ready better to give him a Williams than a Merc

  • @paulão-72
    @paulão-72 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    I find frustrating that Antonelli is so hyped and Bortoletto isn't while performing better in his rookie F2 season

    • @RoyMatzem
      @RoyMatzem 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Bortoleto its 3 years older than Antonelli, impossible to compare them.
      And Bortoleto its very hyped compared with the others drivers with his age. (Pourchaire, Maloney, Aron) none of them have realistic shot in F1, but Bortoleto still have.

    • @bzilla-d4i
      @bzilla-d4i 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Antonelli had to deal with Prema not getting to grips with the new rules, since then he has outperformed Bearman.

    • @theelf152
      @theelf152 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think Mercedes look at the Big Picture. Maturity, Speed, Team Fit and the ability to learn real quickly. It's a hard one for us to gauge sat here but the team have assessed him with 3 or 4 different cars and are thinking 2026 and beyond. The whole preparation and "making sure he's ready" makes alot more sense with that perspective.. there still is a risk he doesn't get ready but I'm sure Mercedes will then consider others.

    • @castrorito8514
      @castrorito8514 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RoyMatzembortoleto is miles ahead of those 3, antonelli too

    • @Kvbftng
      @Kvbftng 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I feel sorry for him , he was USA first karting world champion ever I think I think indycar is more suited to him that F1 with more equipment and car's

  • @ajiepujianto
    @ajiepujianto 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    What F1 should do is, have a dedicated rookie weekend, each team pick their own choice of rookie to race in one of the race weekend, so they didn't have to speculate who to pick in next season, not only it gives the rookies an F1 race experience, also evaluate how they handle the cars.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe there could be a handful of support races using year old cars for rookies? :)

  • @Beautiful-ModelBarbara-Hut-s1j
    @Beautiful-ModelBarbara-Hut-s1j 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    I didn't know about Robert Schwartzman getting a Free Practice Drive. That actually makes a lot of sense for Audi to fill the seat and show some progress before trying to sign someone with a bigger profile in a year or two.

    • @bonelessbeef
      @bonelessbeef 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Annoying bot

  • @lukeearthcrawler896
    @lukeearthcrawler896 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Here's a left field idea for Williams AND Sauber: call Zak Brown and try to get Bortoleto. McLaren has their F1 line up set for years to come with Lando and Oscar and Williams is no threat to McLaren. IMHO Bortoleto is as talented as Antonelli, but unlike Kimi, Bortoleto has the results to prove that. He won F3 last year convincingly as a rookie and is runner up in F2 this year as a rookie, being ahead of both Antonelli and Bearman.

    • @alicekoppenol-pitti6257
      @alicekoppenol-pitti6257 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think they need someone with actual race experience in F1 for the remainder of the season.

    • @evandrochaves9596
      @evandrochaves9596 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Amazing someone who isn't brazillian remembering him

    • @petertoluolushuyi7311
      @petertoluolushuyi7311 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      kimi has results as well

    • @RoyMatzem
      @RoyMatzem 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bring a rookie for 8 races make no sense.
      Have to be an experienced driver, Mick and Lawson are the only real option.

    • @petertoluolushuyi7311
      @petertoluolushuyi7311 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RoyMatzem lawson

  • @Irock2412
    @Irock2412 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    As an American, I probably would’ve fired Sargeant before the mid season break. The fact that he got another year is impressive

  • @glenrobinson10
    @glenrobinson10 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +74

    Red Bull not giving Lawson a well deserved half season because they are worried that he'd take points off Perez would be rather telling.

    • @nerdock4747
      @nerdock4747 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Perez gets points?

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Take points off the Vcarbs, not Perez.

    • @sheeshman9713
      @sheeshman9713 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      ​@@soundscape26History shows us that he probably will take points off Perez at some point😂😂

    • @AlfredoVaz
      @AlfredoVaz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@soundscape26 correct

    • @AlfredoVaz
      @AlfredoVaz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sheeshman9713 😂

  • @Johnonayacht
    @Johnonayacht 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Williams should back up the money truck at Sebastians house

    • @RoyMatzem
      @RoyMatzem 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Vettel racing for Williams would be fire

  • @LuPaulo_
    @LuPaulo_ 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think it's time for someone to call Latifi

  • @calebayton9073
    @calebayton9073 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Don't get Wolff ruling out Antonelli, if he's pretty much confirmed for the 2nd Mercedes seat next year, why not give him a taster of F1 for the rest of this year in a lower pressure environment than Mercedes will be next, given that they're probably going to be a lot more competitive and therefore expecting results from both they're drivers than they would have done when Hamilton first announced he was leaving.

  • @WimCos
    @WimCos 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Drugovic? Schumacher? If those are serious options Williams is better off bringing back Stoffel Vandoorne. Mature, not crash prone, consistently quick and recently drove the Aston Martin 2024 car in the Pirelli test.

    • @EngelDerVerdammnis
      @EngelDerVerdammnis 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Could bring back Giovinazzi too for example.

    • @TransmitHim
      @TransmitHim 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Vandoorne's just signed for a new team in FE (Maserati), and there's a clash for Abu Dhabi there (plus I think he has a hypercar programme) but yeah, if they're seriously at the point of considering Drugovich and Schumacher, Vandoorne is a much better choice.

    • @WimCos
      @WimCos 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think Williams took the best option: promote one of its juniors and let him mature for half a season. It shows confidence in their academy. Problem is: they don’t have a seat for him next season.

  • @MrElemental101
    @MrElemental101 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Truly hope we see Botas secure his seat again. An exceptionally talented driver that’s been given below par equipment. Hopefully that changes when Audi takes full ownership! Surprised Hulk was given a seat as this is his second go and he’s failed to make any sort of dent in the pecking order.

  • @bubblewrapvillain
    @bubblewrapvillain 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Schumacher has had two seasons to prove his worth, he failed. Mercedes should try to put Antonelli in that seat instead of Mick.

  • @MrTrippy11
    @MrTrippy11 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Keeping the repair bill down... im not sure Mick is the answer based on his last season at Hass

  • @thephenome1462
    @thephenome1462 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yeah, this is a rough one for Williams... Someone who could be worth a look is Stoffel Vandoorne. The guy has F1 experience, he's won in other series, and it would be a popular story.
    As for Sauber - sure, why not get Bobby Schwartzman in, I think the guy did really well in the changing conditions in Zandvoort, and he definitely has pace, as far as anyone who hasn't driven in F1 properly can be judged. Other than that - keep Valtteri, he'd be a solid benchmark to compare to Hulk, and then make a decision on the driver line-up moving forward.

  • @Rosario_Verano
    @Rosario_Verano 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Colapinto doesn't have enough Superlicense points.

    • @sashadaich850
      @sashadaich850 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There go my hopes 😥

    • @rahulmoitra4817
      @rahulmoitra4817 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thanks I was about to comment give colapinto a chance

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would always be very unlikely they'd replace Sargeant with a rookie... they need a safe pair of hands till the end of the season.

    • @mercho14
      @mercho14 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@soundscape26 lol

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mercho14 Sometimes you get things wrong. Gotta own it and move on. 😄

  • @c56cameo
    @c56cameo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    Williams have hung on to Sargeant to long

    • @meikgeik
      @meikgeik 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      100%. Can't wait to see him gone. Now if we can just get rid of Stroll...

    • @CrashXII
      @CrashXII 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@meikgeik That happens once hell freezes over

    • @opposedscroll7596
      @opposedscroll7596 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree that he has to go, but I don't feel like Lawson should take Williams seat
      Lawson (apparently) already has a RB family seat guaranteed for 2025, so there's no need for him to be in a completely different car than any of the RB family cars for just half a season.
      I feel like Mick should be given a second chance. He has shown that he has the pace to be in F1, he just needs to iron out the crashes.

    • @gregmiller7123
      @gregmiller7123 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@opposedscroll7596Sadly, Williams can’t afford to find out if Schumacher has ironed his crashing problem! Both Logan and Mick seem like really good guys but parts are expensive.

    • @c56cameo
      @c56cameo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Both of the Stroll's need to go

  • @leepower2717
    @leepower2717 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Maybe it would be cheaper if Williams made sure one of the cars repeatedly breaks down before Sargeant gets a chance to smash that car up during a race weekend 🤔

  • @daranjjohnson
    @daranjjohnson 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    During the 2023 and 2024 Formula 1 seasons, Logan Sargeant has been the driver with the highest repair costs due to crashes attributed to his driving. In 2023 alone, Sargeant's incidents cost Williams a significant $4.33 million, making him the most costly driver in terms of damages. This amount far exceeded that of his teammate Alex Albon, who incurred around $2.78 million in damage-related costs​ (Grand Tour Nation)​ (Total Motorsport).
    While Sargeant topped the list for 2023, there were other drivers who also accumulated substantial repair costs due to their driving errors. For example, Carlos Sainz's incidents amounted to $3.64 million, and Sergio Perez's to $3.22 million​ (Grand Tour Nation)​ (Total Motorsport). However, none surpassed Sargeant in terms of the financial impact on their respective teams.
    Overall, Sargeant's driving incidents have posed a significant financial burden on Williams, especially under the cost-cap regulations that limit the budgets of F1 teams​ (Total Motorsport).
    I would not blame Williams in replacing him before the end of the season. It was generous of the team to give him this year to try to improve, sadly he has not.

  • @bathsalts1st
    @bathsalts1st 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this video age like wine, and only in 48 hours. good work.

  • @gustavoguti27
    @gustavoguti27 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As much as I would love to see a rookie as Colapinto there until the end of the year, the smartest move for Williams would be a proven driver or just leaving Sargeant

  • @BrianHoff04
    @BrianHoff04 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I suspect Vowles knows that Logan isn't really the problem. The issue is the system used to chose drivers, to develop them, and when to decide to make a change drivers without embarrassing everyone.
    That's a hard system to create while, at the same time, re-doing everything Williams was behind on due to bad funding and bad leadership for almost a decade.

  • @Kbandz313
    @Kbandz313 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It’s a long shot but Pascal Wehrlein in the Williams. He should be available for a mid season seat but I don’t know if he got a super license.

    • @MikeDiEva
      @MikeDiEva 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Even if they don't grant him one automatically as a previous F1 driver, 1st and 4th in the past two Formula E seasons gives him 40 points.

    • @Kbandz313
      @Kbandz313 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MikeDiEvaYeah I would give him another shot in F1 even if it’s just the rest of the season. He wasn’t bad from what I can remember. He was in a Manor and Sauber but still got in the points.

  • @ryanvd7587
    @ryanvd7587 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thinking outside the box… what about a Kmag for Sargent swap and then Bearman takes Mags spot

  • @platylobiumobtuseangulum1607
    @platylobiumobtuseangulum1607 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Perhaps Nyck DeVries could get a shot replacing Sgt at Williams and a chance for redemption in a non-RBR team?

  • @spikyone79
    @spikyone79 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5:50 I was literally just typing a reply along the lines of both Schumacher and Sargeant being a bit slow and crashing a lot, good to see that called out for once. It's surprising that Mick's name is still being thrown around so often and I can only assume it's because journalists know that it brings in the clicks - it's probably no coincidence that it's his photo on the thumbnail for this video... The kindest thing for him right now would be for someone to be blunt with him, kill off his misguided hope of being a F1 driver, and allow him to focus on building a career in another category.

  • @edwardmonsariste4050
    @edwardmonsariste4050 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Mick has been instrumental behind the scenes in getting the Merc up to par this year.
    I’d give him a shot. If he starts crashes, boot him back to Mercedes.

    • @JinqsYT
      @JinqsYT 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      i really would like to see mick get another chance

    • @warrenkennan9974
      @warrenkennan9974 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Mic is garbage mate

    • @bzilla-d4i
      @bzilla-d4i 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@warrenkennan9974calling Mick garbage would be like calling De La Rosa garbage. He serves his purpose at Mercedes just as De La Rosa did at McLaren

    • @teabagtowers3823
      @teabagtowers3823 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@bzilla-d4i Warren is probably too thick to understand that.

    • @ThistleForge
      @ThistleForge 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bzilla-d4i its tough for the rookies especially when most times they are getting put in low level teams to start. the car they get has barley even a chance of scoring a single point. the haas car mick had was terrible, not to mention he didnt even have a more experienced team mate to learn from because hass opted for two rookies.

  • @piotrtomasz1268
    @piotrtomasz1268 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Replacing driver that is causing costly damages with the one known that he was causing costly damages seems very right for Williams. Even thinking about Mick is ridiculous in that case in particular.

  • @nekot9274
    @nekot9274 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If they want less pricey crash, then it cannot be Schumacher.

  • @RaptorV1USA
    @RaptorV1USA 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As an American F1 fan for 45 + years, I root for Sargeant to step it up, but it is pretty clear he is just not going to make this decision pay off for Williams,.. SO... Time to GO!
    Lets move on Team Willy. Sadly its past time and this weekend proved it beyond a doubt pretty clearly.
    PS... Same sentiment goes to the Ricciardo situation. As a huge DR fan, I was gutted by his Mclaren experience, but kept faith. I believed he could show his value and perform in a good car. So far he has just NOT risen to the occasion nor had as much as a sniff of his former level and ability. I rate Tsunoda OK, he seems to be a upper midfield level driver, but for DR to be regularly beaten solidly by Tsunoda pretty much says it all right?! Tsunoda is NEVER going to be looked at as a future champion and if he's beating DR regularly...? Nuff said....
    Time to GO DR.
    ;^(

  • @eduanels3342
    @eduanels3342 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Telling Mick is crash prone… but how many times did Hulk crash in 2023 at the start of his comeback but nothing was said. I hate these narratives that media create about drivers like Mick. In second half of 2022 he beat Magnussen in race pace and positions.

    • @lukas_jay243
      @lukas_jay243 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      The problem is, he isn't any good

    • @francisnitsch-jones5908
      @francisnitsch-jones5908 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@lukas_jay243 you clearly have no clue what you are talking about

    • @henrigostoso05
      @henrigostoso05 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A hard ​pill to swallow for many people it seems@@lukas_jay243

    • @akhilesh6072
      @akhilesh6072 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      ​@@francisnitsch-jones5908 Mick did nothing extraordinary during his tenure. He's there because of his father's legacy, that's it

    • @lukas_jay243
      @lukas_jay243 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@francisnitsch-jones5908 That's right. I have only been watching the sport since 1986. You are clearly a fan boy.

  • @thedj9553
    @thedj9553 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Mick shouldn't be judged on his Haas stint, at all. Good or bad. The car was an F2 midfield-standard car masquerading as an F1 car. It's like judging the aesthetic quality of an artist's work when all you gave them was a bucket of elephant dung.

    • @jdbruiser
      @jdbruiser 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Gotta admit though, Mick was crash-tacular at Haas.

    • @JustSomeDinosaurPerson
      @JustSomeDinosaurPerson 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@jdbruiser Yeah, but at least he was pushing the car to its limit. People overrate Zhou because "well at least he doesn't crash" when it is more like Zhou is barely doing anything at all.

    • @francisnitsch-jones5908
      @francisnitsch-jones5908 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@jdbruiser a lot of people have been, it was made a huge thing because Steiner was very open about how much the crashes were costing and made a massive thing about them when he was providing the drivers with a horrible car but expecting them to score points all the time with it. Mick got it to p6 and p8, thats not something to be forgotten but everyone seems to.

    • @elwalker9034
      @elwalker9034 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He absolutely should be. You really want to squander a grid spot on him?

    • @francisnitsch-jones5908
      @francisnitsch-jones5908 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@elwalker9034 yes, that should be obvious by what we are saying

  • @anngo4140
    @anngo4140 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Logan seems a very nice guy, but yeah the business is tough

  • @khasmir666
    @khasmir666 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Judging his body language the last couple of races, I think he has already accepted every race could be his last one. That was a really silly and costly crash in Zandvoort...

  • @TeeTeeNet
    @TeeTeeNet 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wasn’t Schumacher a top scorer in the destruction championship?

  • @coreytrevor3910
    @coreytrevor3910 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Logan reminds me of one of my favorite quotes..."If your gonna wreck it, total it"

  • @JiuJitsuLife-xr8kb
    @JiuJitsuLife-xr8kb 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    If Williams was going to replace Logan halfway through 2024 they never should have signed him on.

    • @nerdock4747
      @nerdock4747 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      *ring ring* "Hello? Yes, this is Red Bull Racing."

    • @tripleg724
      @tripleg724 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Logan is like Mick Schumacher imo: Great at F2 sent to F1 too soon

    • @JiuJitsuLife-xr8kb
      @JiuJitsuLife-xr8kb 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nerdock4747 But I also agree with you there too! Like don't sign someone to replace them halfway through the year

    • @DontuseGoogleorWiki
      @DontuseGoogleorWiki 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You're not considering the INFLUENCE from Li$erty Media... He's a US driver and that was why he was placed on the grid

    • @nickblake6455
      @nickblake6455 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@DontuseGoogleorWikiIf that’s the case, granting Colton Herta his super license would have been the better option if they wanted an American on the grid that badly

  • @jedjohnstone3340
    @jedjohnstone3340 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lawson would probably be direct upgrade to 5 drivers currently on the grid. Really hope he gets his shot next year.

  • @rivaterrier
    @rivaterrier 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    @wearetherace Love this coverage but could I suggest that you leave the analysis graphics on the screen for longer so we can absorb them. After all you are only showing B roll. Somebody puts work into those very useful graphics. Shame that they are flashed up only briefly.

  • @warpeace8891
    @warpeace8891 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't imagine what would stop Mercedes and Williams teaming up to try out Antonelli NOW. It ticks every box for all parties.
    Logan was never up to the task. It was obvious to everyone except Williams leadership a year ago.

  • @ic3man
    @ic3man 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:55 Robert Shwartzman is the best fit for that team. Both him and Binotto have experience with each other and Robert would be a great driver to build upon alongside Hülkenberg

  • @user-kq3si4sc7q
    @user-kq3si4sc7q 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Alex Palou could be top pick

    • @erik_moenart
      @erik_moenart 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is actually possible at Williams, especially if it happens during the early fall break. INDYCAR season will be over by then. Would love to see him at Audi/Sauber too. He’s super calm and calculated, would be fast in anything he drove I’d think.

    • @gregmiller7123
      @gregmiller7123 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Feel certain it wouldn’t be at McLaren! 😵‍💫🤪

  • @JimmyJinIA
    @JimmyJinIA 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Let Lewis prove his racing prowess by driving the Williams, just for half a season😂.

  • @aniketkhadapkar4592
    @aniketkhadapkar4592 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Replacing Logan with Mick who has the same potential for crashes & with a doubtable pace for catching up with these cars is a very risky decision.

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GIven the current problems with Red Bull's car, that raises the chances that Max would jump ship. But the factor that keeps Max from going to Mercedes is that the Mercedes isn't consistently quicker.

  • @ianng4633
    @ianng4633 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Logan may never find out wtf a kilometer is 😢

  • @WaelAli-sd8sw
    @WaelAli-sd8sw 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If Saubar are really struggling, they should go for Theo.

  • @chicobicalho5621
    @chicobicalho5621 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sargent putting that right front squarely on the grass was incredibly sophomoric, or it's just that he cannot drive a F1 car properly. He is prime material for the Indy series.

  • @dohc_au
    @dohc_au 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still can't believe Sainz is headed to Williams. He and his team must know something we don't. Thats not a downgrade, thats something else altogether.

  • @EthanKlassen00
    @EthanKlassen00 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pretty sure all the current drivers are staying the rest of the season
    Edit: well that aged like a glass of milk sitting outside in Arizona

  • @Fr3ddaK
    @Fr3ddaK 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Video is outdated already.
    Colapinto is incoming and replaces Logan.

  • @FrosteeWusky
    @FrosteeWusky 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Williams should take the chance on Mick. Despite his misfortunes and mistakes in his career, he found something in his 2022 campaign that Sargeant has rarely ever had: solid race pace. Mick was on pace with KMag many times and even beat him a few times; he has the ability to do the same against Albon. Whatever happens, Sargeant needs to be removed from the car before Monza, as tough as that is to say.

  • @24hrsblazemanyt15
    @24hrsblazemanyt15 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sauber has 1 of 3 choices rn
    Finance choice: Stick with zhou in order to capatilize on chinese markets and save the money for 2026
    Experience choice: Stick with bottas or magnussen in order to have an experienced drivers input
    Rookie choice: Since they have hulkenburg as their experienced driver they could risk trying to sign a rookie like mick, hadjar, or colapinto depending on his performance in the next 9 races

  • @chicobicalho5621
    @chicobicalho5621 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is remarkable the US simply cannot manage to generate a proper F1 driver. Since Michael Andretti 30 years ago, there has been a series of embarrassments. Even Japan, that in the 1980s and the "Nakagimas" does produce solid racers.

  • @teta98
    @teta98 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Williams should target 5th next season with Sainz and Albon. Albon has single-handedly carried them since he joined and managed to get them to 7th last season

  • @gpz550a2
    @gpz550a2 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    They'd save money just running the one car. Sargeant is just wasting fuel at this point.

  • @snOOziie
    @snOOziie 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excited to see doohan race next season if he's anything like his father we're in for a treat.

  • @stefandebeer9375
    @stefandebeer9375 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Who's here after Colapinto replaced Sargeant? LMAO

  • @smokeybandit9760
    @smokeybandit9760 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been a Logan supporter since his F3 days in 2019, but i agree that he has to go. I'm not sure what changed from the junior categories to F1, because Logan in F3 and F2 vesus Logan in F1 are two completely different drivers. Logan used to be one of the cleanest drivers on the grid back then while also showing great pace and fighting at the front. He never made silly mistakes like the one in Zandvoort, so I don't know what changed. He definitely isn't good enough for F1, but maybe he could be better in others series like IndyCar or WEC. It's good to see that's he's been professional about all of it and I hope he finds something else in the future.

  • @77estate
    @77estate 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Robert Shwatzman is a great option for Sauber next year as he’s a good driver and has a great learning skills which is great for the team that hired an experienced first driver like Hulkenberg to lead them

  • @sugonjoem5238
    @sugonjoem5238 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Replacing sargent with bortoleto makes a lot of sense to me

  • @Bearcat299
    @Bearcat299 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean, Schumacher wasn't replaced because he was not fast enough. That's false, the last 2/3 of the 2022 season he was better overall than Kmag with just one crash during that period. The only reason he was sacked is because of the bad leadership of Gunther and the fact he didn't like him.

  • @litranslationmcr
    @litranslationmcr 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Literally as I was watching this I jumped over to Instagram to see Sargeant has been dropped for the rest of the season 😭what a weapon

  • @seanpower660
    @seanpower660 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel bad for the lad, he's a good guy, works hard, but he's just not near that level. Williams would be doing him a favour to release him now. Needlessly destroying the new car on wet grass in practice has to be the final straw. I wish him well in his future career

  • @rosetzu_nagasawa
    @rosetzu_nagasawa 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "he got respect for me, I got respect for him"
    sounds like a death knell for Botas.

  • @HistoryGremlin
    @HistoryGremlin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Alex Palou after indycar season finishes

  • @sz5876
    @sz5876 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🇺🇸 Here. Logan was given a solid chance, 36 starts and he's never out qualified his teammate once. Even Perez, a terrible qualifier has managed to outqualify Max! Same for Stroll. For reference, Jim Clark only had 72 starts in his entire F1 career. He just doesn't have that extra bit to be truly competitive.

  • @cecilcharlesofficial
    @cecilcharlesofficial 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They should have put Ocon and Stroll together so we don't ever have to feel bad for their teammates.

  • @platylobiumobtuseangulum1607
    @platylobiumobtuseangulum1607 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Said before, will keep saying it, F1 needs more seats to give more drivers an actual chance.

  • @liondriven9073
    @liondriven9073 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    🏎🏁Mick Schu was catching up Magnussen toward the end of his Haas career. He since had time to reflect on things he would have done differently today. He surely has learn a lot at Mercedes, observing Lewis and George. He probably won't be lightnin' fast but still, he is in another league than Sargeant.

  • @MrReStories
    @MrReStories 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mick Schumacher LOL, wasn't he responsible for demolishing countless HAAS cars. I wouldn't let Schumarcher or Seargent anywhere near an F1 car if I were team principal :-)

  • @NJTRAF
    @NJTRAF 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I REALLY hope that Kimi Antonelli gets the Williams seat for the remainder of the season. Get him some F1 experience before he goes to Mercedes, and gives them the remainder of the season to get a permanent replacement in place. Win for Williams and a Win for Mercedes, obviously they have a good working relationship already, with ex-Mercedes employees James Vowles, Matt Harman & Richard Frith all at Williams

  • @chrismurphy6519
    @chrismurphy6519 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really hope sauber picks up schwartzman, very talented and should have been in f1 over several drivers

  • @sporkybutterz
    @sporkybutterz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When Goatifi looks like a superior driver theres a problem. Sargeant like Mick is too crash prone and taking risks when it wasn't required at a team like Williams is running an expensive tally. Seems like a good guy but he was going backwards.

  • @anthonysmith2982
    @anthonysmith2982 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd really like to see Colapinto in the Williams seat. It won't happen, a reflection of how risk averse F1 teams are in the current environment.
    I get the financial / development budget implications of dropping a position in the WCC for an ascendant team, I just wish real in car young driver development was given the same priority.
    On another note of things that won't happen and at the risk of contradicting my previous assertion - how good would it be to see Nico Rosberg back for a quick 3 year stint at Audi from next year?
    Danny Ric isn't a bad fit for a shortish Audi stint either. Two experienced drivers + Ricciardos ridiculously advantageous marketability seems like a fit for a new high profile constructor without much chance of short term on track success.

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Williams should make change and fast to stay in constructors championship.
    Hopping for Schumacher to get the seat

  • @ma61king
    @ma61king 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd like to see Drugovich given a chance, it was disappointing that Stroll didn't sit out a race or two when he broke his wrist.

  • @jadhamizan
    @jadhamizan 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Bearman's agent should try to persuade Williams to get him into that seat until the end of the season. He'll be in F1 next season anyway, so this will be a good warming-up exercise for him (albeit not in the car he'll be driving next season). Plus, he's having a dud F2 season, so it's not like he has anything to lose by making the move. If anything, the longer he stays in F2 this season, the worse he'll look.

    • @howieisbored
      @howieisbored 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      why would haas allow their future driver to possibly take points away for this season?

    • @Leith_Crowther
      @Leith_Crowther 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Why would Williams let a driver get familiar with their team and car knowing he’ll be a competitor next season?

  • @Ye4k
    @Ye4k 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Mercedes are going for Antonelli next year wouldn't it be smart to stick him in the Williams for the remaining races this year to give him some experience before 2025 if possible?

  • @steve4880
    @steve4880 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Red Bull should've put Lawson in the VCARB this year and dumped Danny Ric. If he showed the promising pace. They could've put him in the Red Bull instead of being stuck with Perez.

    • @DontuseGoogleorWiki
      @DontuseGoogleorWiki 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't forget the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Perez brings

  • @rudelsp69
    @rudelsp69 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Sargeant and Mick is the same. Called Kimi while in F3. And don't put Sauber down... It gives Audi the most wind tunnel time, absolute genius.

  • @wunkskorks2623
    @wunkskorks2623 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m struggling to recall ANY flashes of potential in this kid. Considering the 5th best American indycar driver makes him look like granny getting groceries, I honestly don’t know how he even got the drive, let alone hold it for multiple abysmal seasons. Lots of behind the scenes money with liberty media, me thinks.

  • @Alcatraz760
    @Alcatraz760 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Red Bull would be crazy not pushing for lawson in that seat. Him in the williams gives them all the data they need to decide who to jettison out of their 2 remaining seats.

  • @louis-marlowe
    @louis-marlowe 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Schumacher's been driving incredibly well in WEC for Alpine, so I highly doubt he's the same driver he was for Haas. If he gets to drive for Williams, he can hopefully show that the sabbatical from F1 has been a good thing, much like it was for Albon.