What really gets me is the 9mm fanboys will bash the 40S&W as a "high pressure" round, but then buy 9mm+p ammo. 9mm standard ammo runs at 33,000 psi. 9mm +P ammo runs about 38,500 psi. 40S&W doesn't have a +P load and runs at 33,900 psi. The high pressure gripe is a myth. Recoil is higher on a 40S&W than on a 9mm which is inevitable when you shoot heavier bullets. It's an inescapable fact. But the 45ACP shoots even heavier bullets and only get's away with lower recoil because the guns are heavier. A loaded G30 (45ACP subcompact) weighs 33.69oz and a loaded G27 (40S&W subcompact) weighs 26.46oz. That's about half a pound lighter. By contrast the loaded G26 (subcompact 9mm) weighs 25.75oz which is less than an ounce lighter than the G27. What people REALLY cant seem to figure out is that 40S&W doesn't just have 180gr and 165 gr loads. There are loads out there with 100gr, 115gr, 135gr, 140gr, 150gr and 155 gr bullets. It's absolutely crazy how many options there are for the 40S&W.
The thing is, a lot of police trade ins are 40 S&W, so...if you're looking to get a good deal on some "light to moderately used" guns, chances are you will be picking up a gun in that very caliber.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a .40. No, it doesn't mean that I think the 9mm is a bad round, 9mm is an outstanding round as well. Living in CA. we are limited to 10 rounds, be it 9mm, 45 acp or .40 s&w. So capacity is irrelevant here, so shoot whatever you feel you can hit your target.
.40 is a great cartridge always has been and it has proven street cred .. but carry what suits you .. I have 9mm .357 sig .. .40 .. 45acp ... I'm not biased
Most of mine are 9mm, but I bought a couple of .40's late last year, and found out that I really like shooting it! I also like shooting .45 out of my 1911. You are right, I still can't find 9mm anywhere (I have a few stockpiled), but I can still find .40S&W and .45, so I will just have fun shooting those for now. Great video!
The FBI went back to 9mm and the lemmings followed. I think they should have stuck with the 10mm but they’re basically pencil pushers so what do they care what the carry. A pistol is more of a fashion accessory to most agents.
You made an excellent point when you said if you wear the firearm out you got your moneys worth out of it. I have to wonder how many of us shoot enough to wear a gun out?
The last handgun I purchased is a S&W 4013 brought in the early 90s, I don’t currently carry but I still keep it at the ready for home defense. I also have a Glock 19 but since we’re limited to 10 round magazines here in NY I’d rather have 8 + 1 of 155 grain than 10+1 of any 9 mm
Will say that it indeed not a bad cartridge, it all comes down to personal preference all together, hell even a 22 is better than a cell phone and sharp stick
40 isn't a "high pressure" cartridge like everyone says it is. Rather 40 has a shorter pressure curve and achieves peak pressure sooner than some other handgun cartridges. They mostly all operate at similar pressures when comparing the 9mm to 40s&w. I know Yeager always howls high pressure this and high pressure 40'll get'cha killed. It's just that people haven't taken the time to research and the reason 40 is snappy is because peak pressure develops more rapidly in combustion and your slinging a heavier bullet than most 9mm projectiles. Bottom line is right now 40 is economical so why not have one. They penetrate barriers pretty well and the Federal 180gr FMj out of my glock 22 break just over 1000 fps and they have an nice big flat on the bullet nose. It makes an outstanding field pistol better than my 9mmr for sure. In fact my glock 22 40 cal is my answer to my 357 mag for a field handgun. It works just as well for me and for less cost. The difference is I've hunted with 9mm, 40, and 45, 45colt, 454, and 475. I know what each does to living tissue. 40 is a better performer than 9mm in all ways except it can't be shot as rapidly.
know what, i have searched youtube vids for 40 cal and seen few of it and most of the content says plain and simple that the 40 is a good ammo and found lots of 9mm vids saying how great it is among all pistol calibers for carry. im my opinion 40 is a great carry ammo for self defense than the 9mm
Absolutely! Must have plenty of options when it comes to protection and Ammunition availability. Totally agree with you Brother. Great ! Post . I really enjoy my Smith and wesson MP .40 Cal Have a Great! Weekend.
Have had a 2nd gen. glock 22 since 1991. No I do not shoot 10K rounds on a monthly basis, but shoot it often. Still working, and has not worned out nor has it exploded. It's interesting that just about anyone who claims that .40 caliber pistol will wear out go on and use 9mm +p, which will also wear out. The .40 is a high pressure round, but so is a 9mm when subjected to +p pressures, it will also wear out the pistol faster.
The USP was specifically built around the .40. H&K did it right. That’s the reason why it’s so soft shooting. IMO the FBI is the reason why the .40 declined in popularity. Their so called “testing and evaluation “ revealed that modern day 9mm was far superior than the .40 so majority of firearm owners and law enforcement agency decided the FBI must be correct. It’s the current trend. Paul Harrell has an excellent video of 9mm vs. .40 and it basically dispels that myth. 15 years from now the FBI will say the .22 long rifle is far superior than the 9mm and everyone will switch over.
Yes sir! That's how it goes when everyone doesn't diversify. They have no other options because the tacticool operator instructor types told them they had to only have 9mm guns.
I may add 2 or 3 HK Pistols in 2021. I bought to many handguns already this year..... I have to pace myself a little bit. My wants far exceeds my needs. 🤔😂🤗🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Man what is wrong with you! You are giving away one of the best kept gun secrets ever!!! I cleaned up buying 40 S&W when Walmart had their final handgun ammunition clearance sale. I picked up Ten 250 round boxes of Remington UMC 180gr 40 S&W for $30 a box. This stuff was still siting on shelves days after all the 9mm was gone. 2500 rounds for $330 with tax!, Can’t beat that!.........excellent video, give it time cops will go back to 40, 45, and 10mm
Hahah just trying to help out some newbies! But yea it definitely makes sense to keep one around because no matter what people will always go nuts over 9mm and leave plenty of excellent ammo on the shelf in other calibers
I only shot a 40 caliber once. It was a Glock. As far as the stopping power pov, I would say 10mm, 357, 44 Magnum and up are the real stopping power calibers. I've seen plenty of videos where criminals are still a threat after being shot by 9mm, 40 and 45acp. I know that 45acp can take down a grizzly but that shot placement has to be dead on. Gr8 vid. 🔫
Those other calibers you mentioned carry nowhere near the capacity this as say glock 17 22 and 21 lol and yes shot placement is key however if I have to aim for head or vitals I want a hot round such as 40 with nasty expansion say something along the lines of 165 gr federal HST ask around if you don’t know and if you do you will know that stuff is known for being a very nasty round it always blows my mind when people think 40 is a middle ground caliber when in fact scientifically and physics prove it’s much more powerful than 9 or 45 lol cheers 👍💯🇺🇸💨🍻
40 cal definitely does not suck, mostly because nobody is buying any of it in my town except me which is driving the price down, I've got more 40 cal now than 9mm, I didn't think that was going to happen but it happened I think I got probably got around 20,000 of 40s&w now.
I recently found a H&K USP compact in .40 at a pawn shop for $450 and had to jump on it. It only came with 1 mag but it was in great condition. Its my only .40 now and its awesome.
The usp is a 1000 dollar gun brand new and the two tones are more rare and collectible so that's really not that bad. I work in a gunshop so I got mine for less than that with my discount but at 600 it's fair
I like 40SW. I am like you a 45 ACP guy, and at 71, the saying does "you can't teach an old dog new tricks." I think 40 has been maligned quite a bit. You got a great deal on that HK. The USP Compact is a great line, I am not too much for a silver looking slide, but I am sure you got a hell of a deal on it. I was at my gun store, and here in CA the libbies have decided to buy guns, they have sold over 1 million guns. The gun store is empty, they even bought the 40 cal pistols. Check the hammer spring, if it has the factory one, go to a lighter spring. It will make a great difference in DA pull. I did that to my USPC 45 and I love it. It dropped like 4lbs on DA pull. It works great, never had any light strikes.
I have 7 40's, I reload everything from 1008 fps plinkers to 1287 fps self defense 50 yard loads. I shoot 40 and 44 .... 9mm is for cheapskates with weak wrists that can't shoot🤣😂🤣
There are a lot of good round's out there. And in my opinion / experience most have their place. Let's all try to remain calm, and not get our panty's in a bunch.
I had the same exact gun in 98, I wasn't impressed. Felt great in the hand, didn't run reliably with Black Talons, or FMJ. My dept eventually switched to the Sig P229 in .40. I wasn't the only one to experience unreliability with the USP .40 C.
I found the USP .40 Compact to be flippy. It was so good looking, felt so good in the hand, and evoked so much admiration from others, I bought a second one, after getting rid of the first one, years earlier. I figured it had to be me; not the gun. It's both. It's probably a great gun; just not for me.
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Finally not a 9mm tree hugger...TH-cam is filled with 9mm so this is def a breath of fresh air
Lol 9mm is for eastern europeans, women, and children hahah I'm definitely a 45 guy but I love em all.
40 is a superb round despite what the haters say. I guarantee none of the haters would volunteer to step in front of one.
I would argue they wouldn't hahahah
Lol or a .22 short bb gun etc ;)
I've seen videos of people getting shot by .40 cal and it stops them really well
Who made 45 "America's cartridge" never heard that before.
@@ImTheManStan90 America did....
I love my sig229 in 40s&w
Another great gun designed for the caliber!
I have a 40cal and a 45 cal love them both
Both great choices
40 S&W is a great round I totally agree.
Yea not my favorite but very useful and can be easily attainable most of the time
9 and 45 is what i got dont forget 45 super
Am a 40 guy all the other calibers are great to
Haha can't go wrong with any gun or caliber really in the grand scheme of everything!
I love the .40. I learned on the .40. It's always been my favorite round. More ammo for me.
Hahah yep exactly! 40 is a solid choice forsure and I've always said that!
What really gets me is the 9mm fanboys will bash the 40S&W as a "high pressure" round, but then buy 9mm+p ammo.
9mm standard ammo runs at 33,000 psi.
9mm +P ammo runs about 38,500 psi.
40S&W doesn't have a +P load and runs at 33,900 psi.
The high pressure gripe is a myth.
Recoil is higher on a 40S&W than on a 9mm which is inevitable when you shoot heavier bullets. It's an inescapable fact. But the 45ACP shoots even heavier bullets and only get's away with lower recoil because the guns are heavier.
A loaded G30 (45ACP subcompact) weighs 33.69oz and a loaded G27 (40S&W subcompact) weighs 26.46oz. That's about half a pound lighter. By contrast the loaded G26 (subcompact 9mm) weighs 25.75oz which is less than an ounce lighter than the G27.
What people REALLY cant seem to figure out is that 40S&W doesn't just have 180gr and 165 gr loads. There are loads out there with 100gr, 115gr, 135gr, 140gr, 150gr and 155 gr bullets. It's absolutely crazy how many options there are for the 40S&W.
Indubitably good sir
I really like my 40 cal great video
Tha is man!
The thing is, a lot of police trade ins are 40 S&W, so...if you're looking to get a good deal on some "light to moderately used" guns, chances are you will be picking up a gun in that very caliber.
Great guns and a proven caliber for sure and if you can't get it at a good price why not!
Absolutely nothing wrong with a .40. No, it doesn't mean that I think the 9mm is a bad round, 9mm is an outstanding round as well. Living in CA. we are limited to 10 rounds, be it 9mm, 45 acp or .40 s&w. So capacity is irrelevant here, so shoot whatever you feel you can hit your target.
excellent job
Thanks!
.40 is a great cartridge always has been and it has proven street cred .. but carry what suits you .. I have 9mm .357 sig .. .40 .. 45acp ... I'm not biased
Indeed!
Most of mine are 9mm, but I bought a couple of .40's late last year, and found out that I really like shooting it! I also like shooting .45 out of my 1911. You are right, I still can't find 9mm anywhere (I have a few stockpiled), but I can still find .40S&W and .45, so I will just have fun shooting those for now. Great video!
I know a guy that knows a guy that told me you have a kick butt holster for one of those 40s. lol
Ozzy Orsborn Indeed I do! A kick butt holster indeed, for my S&W 4006TSW CHP pistol. Thanks again Ozzy!
Exactly and thanks for watching!
I totally love my .40 is my favorite caliber to council carry .💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽✋
Yeah it's definitely a proven caliber
I've got four weapons in .40S&W, with no regrets. I also shoot .38, .357, 9mm, 357SIG. I most frequently carry the .40.
All good choices!
The FBI went back to 9mm and the lemmings followed. I think they should have stuck with the 10mm but they’re basically pencil pushers so what do they care what the carry. A pistol is more of a fashion accessory to most agents.
Indeed
You made an excellent point when you said if you wear the firearm out you got your moneys worth out of it. I have to wonder how many of us shoot enough to wear a gun out?
Some definitely do but I'd venture to think that 95 percent or more of gun owners will never wear out a mag let alone shoot their gun out
40 call will run circle's around a 45 auto that's a fact I my self prefer the 40 cal
False
@@TerriblyTactical how many police departments use 45 ACP ?
@@TerriblyTactical you are wrong the 40 caliber is not a compromise, the 40 is more powerful than both 45 and 9 mm.......
@@raulbanegas1982 no dude you are definitely wrong
40 s&w is on average more powerful than a .45 if you compare equal barrel lengths. Plus you can get more rounds
False.
This video made me subscribe
Good points good content, beautiful HK
Sigs are solid too forsure
@@TerriblyTactical sorry for edit i just subed
Love the round.
It's not my favorite but definitely way more viable than alot of people give it credit for
The last handgun I purchased is a S&W 4013 brought in the early 90s, I don’t currently carry but I still keep it at the ready for home defense. I also have a Glock 19 but since we’re limited to 10 round magazines here in NY I’d rather have 8 + 1 of 155 grain than 10+1 of any 9 mm
I feel that my dude. You might as well get a 1911 in 45 that way no mag space is wasted and you're launching flying ashtrays at fools
@@TerriblyTactical 😂
Will say that it indeed not a bad cartridge, it all comes down to personal preference all together, hell even a 22 is better than a cell phone and sharp stick
Exactly!
40 is best of both worlds
I wouldn't push it that far
More bullets than 45 hits harder than both
40 isn't a "high pressure" cartridge like everyone says it is. Rather 40 has a shorter pressure curve and achieves peak pressure sooner than some other handgun cartridges. They mostly all operate at similar pressures when comparing the 9mm to 40s&w. I know Yeager always howls high pressure this and high pressure 40'll get'cha killed. It's just that people haven't taken the time to research and the reason 40 is snappy is because peak pressure develops more rapidly in combustion and your slinging a heavier bullet than most 9mm projectiles. Bottom line is right now 40 is economical so why not have one. They penetrate barriers pretty well and the Federal 180gr FMj out of my glock 22 break just over 1000 fps and they have an nice big flat on the bullet nose. It makes an outstanding field pistol better than my 9mmr for sure. In fact my glock 22 40 cal is my answer to my 357 mag for a field handgun. It works just as well for me and for less cost. The difference is I've hunted with 9mm, 40, and 45, 45colt, 454, and 475. I know what each does to living tissue. 40 is a better performer than 9mm in all ways except it can't be shot as rapidly.
I had a all metal S&W 40cal 25 years ago. Man I regret selling it. Thanks for the video and take care.
Those old smith guns are excellent
know what, i have searched youtube vids for 40 cal and seen few of it and most of the content says plain and simple that the 40 is a good ammo and found lots of 9mm vids saying how great it is among all pistol calibers for carry. im my opinion 40 is a great carry ammo for self defense than the 9mm
45acp reigns supreme!
No doubt.
40 s&w is a solid caliber & is perfect out of a full size frame. It is easy to find off the self defensive ammo hitting over 500 foot pounds, yee ha!
Hahaha yeah it's viable no doubt but has trade offs like anything else
I know a guy who shot a burglar with a .40! That’s the last time I sneak into that dude’s crib.
Lol what
Absolutely! Must have plenty of options when it comes to protection and Ammunition availability. Totally agree with you Brother. Great ! Post . I really enjoy my Smith and wesson MP .40 Cal Have a Great! Weekend.
Thanks my dude!
I heard a human body can shake off a 9mm round while adrenaline is rushing, i dont think someone will shake off a .40
Doesn't matter what caliber from a handgun they got shot with most of the time. It's all about shot placent and where they get hit.
I thought they started making the stainless again
Not to my knowledge
@@TerriblyTactical I think in 2014 or 2015 they re released them briefly. Could be wrong.
Have had a 2nd gen. glock 22 since 1991. No I do not shoot 10K rounds on a monthly basis, but shoot it often. Still working, and has not worned out nor has it exploded. It's interesting that just about anyone who claims that .40 caliber pistol will wear out go on and use 9mm +p, which will also wear out. The .40 is a high pressure round, but so is a 9mm when subjected to +p pressures, it will also wear out the pistol faster.
What all have you replaced on it ?
The USP was specifically built around the .40. H&K did it right. That’s the reason why it’s so soft shooting. IMO the FBI is the reason why the .40 declined in popularity. Their so called “testing and evaluation “ revealed that modern day 9mm was far superior than the .40 so majority of firearm owners and law enforcement agency decided the FBI must be correct. It’s the current trend. Paul Harrell has an excellent video of 9mm vs. .40 and it basically dispels that myth. 15 years from now the FBI will say the .22 long rifle is far superior than the 9mm and everyone will switch over.
Hahahah exactly
Great points bro! Just picked up 200 jhp's for my 40 cuz noooo 9mm in any stores.
Yes sir! That's how it goes when everyone doesn't diversify. They have no other options because the tacticool operator instructor types told them they had to only have 9mm guns.
Actually 40 is more powerful than 45. 40 460 fps. 45 390 fps
False
I may add 2 or 3 HK Pistols in 2021. I bought to many handguns already this year..... I have to pace myself a little bit. My wants far exceeds my needs. 🤔😂🤗🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I've got the same problem lol
You have all the cool guns lol. Before I buy one I check out your channel because im sure you have it 😎
Good vid! 40 ain’t bad. Not my fav but got to have one or two
Exactly!
As an intellectual, I carry .38 spc.
I also carry a 38 spl
Man what is wrong with you! You are giving away one of the best kept gun secrets ever!!! I cleaned up buying 40 S&W when Walmart had their final handgun ammunition clearance sale. I picked up Ten 250 round boxes of Remington UMC 180gr 40 S&W for $30 a box. This stuff was still siting on shelves days after all the 9mm was gone. 2500 rounds for $330 with tax!, Can’t beat that!.........excellent video, give it time cops will go back to 40, 45, and 10mm
Hahah just trying to help out some newbies! But yea it definitely makes sense to keep one around because no matter what people will always go nuts over 9mm and leave plenty of excellent ammo on the shelf in other calibers
Terribly Tactical I agree, you were spot on,. Particularly since it is easy to pick up quality 40s&w pistols at bargain basement prices
I only shot a 40 caliber once. It was a Glock. As far as the stopping power pov, I would say 10mm, 357, 44 Magnum and up are the real stopping power calibers. I've seen plenty of videos where criminals are still a threat after being shot by 9mm, 40 and 45acp. I know that 45acp can take down a grizzly but that shot placement has to be dead on. Gr8 vid. 🔫
Shot placement is always key! Thanks for watching!
Those other calibers you mentioned carry nowhere near the capacity this as say glock 17 22 and 21 lol and yes shot placement is key however if I have to aim for head or vitals I want a hot round such as 40 with nasty expansion say something along the lines of 165 gr federal HST ask around if you don’t know and if you do you will know that stuff is known for being a very nasty round it always blows my mind when people think 40 is a middle ground caliber when in fact scientifically and physics prove it’s much more powerful than 9 or 45 lol cheers 👍💯🇺🇸💨🍻
40 cal definitely does not suck, mostly because nobody is buying any of it in my town except me which is driving the price down, I've got more 40 cal now than 9mm, I didn't think that was going to happen but it happened I think I got probably got around 20,000 of 40s&w now.
I'm trying to tell these people hahah although I suppose if everyone bought one it would be just like 9mm hahah
Damn right it doesn't suck! I carry a Glock 27x 😁
You go girl hahahah
I recently found a H&K USP compact in .40 at a pawn shop for $450 and had to jump on it. It only came with 1 mag but it was in great condition. Its my only .40 now and its awesome.
Nicholas Emerson Congratulations!! That’s a Great Price for one in Excellent Condition!! 🤔🥳😎👍🇺🇸
Beretta Sr.
You're gunna love that gun man I've had really good luck with mine
Not true a 40 cal hits harder and out perform a 45
Verifiably false
I just paid $600 for a 40sw USP Compact in stainless a week ago I think I overpaid a tad bit. what did yours run you?
The usp is a 1000 dollar gun brand new and the two tones are more rare and collectible so that's really not that bad. I work in a gunshop so I got mine for less than that with my discount but at 600 it's fair
40 caliber to me is the new 9 mm it's going to make a comeback mark my words .
Idk, we shall see!
I like 40SW. I am like you a 45 ACP guy, and at 71, the saying does "you can't teach an old dog new tricks." I think 40 has been maligned quite a bit. You got a great deal on that HK. The USP Compact is a great line, I am not too much for a silver looking slide, but I am sure you got a hell of a deal on it. I was at my gun store, and here in CA the libbies have decided to buy guns, they have sold over 1 million guns. The gun store is empty, they even bought the 40 cal pistols.
Check the hammer spring, if it has the factory one, go to a lighter spring. It will make a great difference in DA pull. I did that to my USPC 45 and I love it. It dropped like 4lbs on DA pull. It works great, never had any light strikes.
Yea I've messed with the match springs before but for a defensive gun I don't mind the way that it is plus this one is used and broken in quite nicely
I got alot of criticsm for 40 S&W. You are a breath of fresh air. This corona virus is a hoax.
Corona is definitely a hoax and thank you for not being a sheeple
I have 7 40's, I reload everything from 1008 fps plinkers to 1287 fps self defense 50 yard loads. I shoot 40 and 44 .... 9mm is for cheapskates with weak wrists that can't shoot🤣😂🤣
The Poor Conservative And 40 is what a dude buys for his girlfriend who’s scared of a 45. Douche.
So what you're saying is...buy a 1911 in .40? 😂
Absolutely not lol
I have both a Glock G17 RTF2 (9 mm) and a G22 RTF2 (40 S&W), The difference in recoil between the two is not that bad; both are super reliable.
And both are great options
#40forlife
Lol #45acpmasterrace
Not my favorite round, but if you're gonna run it the USP is one of the best guns to use!
Wholeheartedly agreed!
There are a lot of good round's out there. And in my opinion / experience most have their place. Let's all try to remain calm, and not get our panty's in a bunch.
I had the same exact gun in 98, I wasn't impressed. Felt great in the hand, didn't run reliably with Black Talons, or FMJ. My dept eventually switched to the Sig P229 in .40. I wasn't the only one to experience unreliability with the USP .40 C.
I found the USP .40 Compact to be flippy. It was so good looking, felt so good in the hand, and evoked so much admiration from others, I bought a second one, after getting rid of the first one, years earlier. I figured it had to be me; not the gun. It's both. It's probably a great gun; just not for me.
I've ran a good amount of rounds through it both fmj and hollow points and have had 0 issues with it
I've never shot a 40 so I don't really have an opinion on them.
They're fun guns to shoot and there are definitely some cool guns chambered for the round but 45acp is definitely my favorite!
@@TerriblyTactical I prefer 9mm but I like 45acp too.