it never really hit me as a kid how much trust Peter was placing in Octavius by revealing his identity to him. it was a gamble and it was kind of the only option he had left at that point, but the very fact that he thought it might work actually says a lot
I respect your opinion. I like both of them. The think is they are good movies but with diferent styles. Some people like the drama, the dark, the mystery or some people like the color, the comedy, and the humanistic. I think both of them have their merit
The Dark Knight is the best no doubt then Spider-Man 2 ! i respect your opinion but TDK is really the best, not just for me but for majority of people. Spider-Man 2 is the second best superhero movie ! TDK & Spider-Man 2 still rules !
SpiderMan ( Tobey Maguire ) : now tell me how to stop it Doctor Octopus ( Alfred Molina ) : it can't be stop because there is a Multiverse and it's self sustaining now
@@JONZII7 I was trying not to go full simp but it really seems Rami just added water into almost ever damn scene she’s in and I’m not complaining at all
People like you make it so hard for me to try and enjoy these great films when you trash The mcu like stfu two things can exist at once,not everything needs to be raimi spider-man
I can enjoy the MCU but when they made Mysterio connected to Tony Stark, my first thought was “lazy writing.” MCU Spider-Man should have better writing. No excuses. Don’t settle for less.
@@thefilmwatcher1302 They got nothing about his character from the comics right. In FFH, Mysterio was an illusion created by an entire crew of scientists, whilst in the comics, Quentin Beck rides solo. Not to mention all of his illusions came from drones projecting holograms in the movie. In the comics, Beck uses a wide array of techniques to build his illusions.
0:35 all it would really take is one punch to knock out doc ock. In a comic series where ock swapped brains with spiderman, he punched scorpion and immediately knocked out his jaw clean off. And that's when he realized spiderman was holding back all along.
Well yeah his super strong and always holds back his punches, he usually takes out goons with a couple of punches. In the train scene for example doc keeps getting punched in the face, arms or no arms that shit still hurts xD
@@crabohato4954 yeah thats what I ment Hes super strong so he holds back but he still punches REALLY hard, just not hard enough to break anything. But doc is a normal person and not even a fighter, if the average street goon gets K.Oed with 2-3 punches so should he
@@Mrjohnny164 Maybe the robot arms strapped to his back stop him from feeling as much pain as he normally would through their invasion into his nervous system. Doesn't explain his super durability/combat speed but it comes close
As much as I love this movie. Best Spider-Man movie ever I am taken back by how many times he has to hit doc oc. He can lift like 25 tons or more so one ouch he could knock his head off. I’d love to see Spider-Man puck through walls and show his strength. Anyone else feel this way?
It would be fun to see a version of Spider-Man when up against real baddies be like I don’t have time for this shit and eliminates them with one punch! Just saying! It would be nice seeing spider show off his strength more. Punch through walls, rip open cars etc
He doesn't need to come back. All of them had good send-offs. Bringing Goblin and Doc Ock back is just a way to bank on our nostalgia. Their stories ended here
@@earljames5415 In terms of the movie's story, yes. But for those who grew up watching the Raimi trilogy, it feels unnecessary. It's manipulative way to bring back characters from older movies for the sake of nostalgia. Rather than creating an original story, Disney banks on our love for the older movies
@@danielmaspoch4314 I grew up watching the Raimi Trilogy and I'm not that mad just like you are right now. Literally none of this retcons what happened in those Movies, Norman dies, Octavius Dies, Eddie Dies, Harry Dies, Flint is forgiven, Kurt is in a prison, Harry is also probably in Prison, Electro is made of electricity, he could've escaped at the last second so I don't think he died. THOSE THINGS AS PERMANENT, IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Now this Movie will ask the Question, What if those things are changed and those villains succeeded and quite possibly killed Spider-Man only to terrorize Tom's Spider-Man. These villains are from a branch history. And what do you want? Another villain that has a connection with Tony Stark? That's literally why I hated the first two MCU Spider-Man Movies, they were never Peter's adversaries, They were Stark's villains.
@@earljames5415 I dont mind the retconning. It just feels cheap to bring them back. I agree that a multiverse story would be better than yet another Tony stark villain story, but I doubt that the story will be that good. The movie will exist for the sole reason to attract old fans. It might be cool to see them again, but it wont be very meaningful
Something that I never understood about this scene is that the mechanical arms are not being pulled in by that sun. I know they were made to harness the sun but that means that they wouldnt be pulled either?
3:20 It always bothered me that Otto contradicted himself. When he and Peter first met, Otto tells him that intelligence is not a privilege, it's a gift. And now here he says it is a privilege. Make up your mind will ya?
So I know I can't be the only one who's thought of this but considering the pull of the mini sun was enough to rip a metal structure apart I don't see how MJ's body, let alone her clothing wouldn't get ripped apart by the pull.
@@TheNemesis432 I admit I don't know anything about Fusion but if its a mini sun and generating a gravitational pull I don't see why it would only affect metal, since gravity should pull it everything
They're built to be able to sustain it, specifically built to obtain and control the fusion reaction, so pretty much even if they're metal they can withstand it. He even says in the demonstration, "they are impervious to heat, and magnetism." Therefore the arms aren't being pulled in
MJ overhears Doc Ock saying "I should've known Osborn wouldn't have the spine to finish you." So she should know Harry Osborn was given the chance to kill Spiderman. Instead, being MJ, she quickly forgets about this and, next film, asks Peter what's wrong between him and Harry. Not brilliant, but lazy. If she'd paid attention she would know Harry almost killed Peter.
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Molina’s facial expressions are immense here. A real top quality actor
He also had really good ones on No Way home
Molina is a whole lot better than guys like DeNiro and Pacino, and nobody talks about it
Doc ock: Let's see you scurry out of this.
Spider-Man: *scurries out of this*
Ock: Dammit, I was being sarcastic!
Now dig on this
Gonna cry?
“We’ll meet again, SpiderMan.”
And this isn't even CGI - to think that they really engineered a small sun in this move TWICE is incredible.
lmfao
I think it was half n half but more puppeteers with the arms. The cgi just deleted the puppeteers. But back then it was amazing how they did the arms
Back in the 2000's, We didn't have any Technology and C.G.I. we had everything done by hand.
With recent movies, the Oppenheimer explosion wasn't CGI.
😂
Such perfection. Still my favorite spiderman movie.
it never really hit me as a kid how much trust Peter was placing in Octavius by revealing his identity to him. it was a gamble and it was kind of the only option he had left at that point, but the very fact that he thought it might work actually says a lot
"u either die a hero or u live long enough to see urself become the villain"
Well doc oc became both lol
You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero
Such a stupid sentence
@@Goatlikeitornot trash 🗑️
@@freak6872 You're such a boy scout. When are you gonna give a guy a break?
4:56 "Goodbye Peter, we hope to meet each other again... *on a bridge* ."
Maybe the Alexander Hamilton bridge, who knows?
No way cough cough home cough cough
I felt Ock was taken to the MCU before he died drowning.
When the villain is too strong for you.....use TALK NO JUTSU!
Dattebayo
Life is not Daijobou
Flash enters the chat
No. Use friendship jutsu
Technically, Dock Ock is defeated before the Talk no Jutsu even used so. . . . .
With all do respect to The Dark Knight, Spider-Man 2 is the greatest superhero movie ever made.
Batman isn't a superhero, he is a hero or an antihero.
I respect your opinion. I like both of them. The think is they are good movies but with diferent styles. Some people like the drama, the dark, the mystery or some people like the color, the comedy, and the humanistic. I think both of them have their merit
The Dark Knight is the best no doubt then Spider-Man 2 ! i respect your opinion but TDK is really the best, not just for me but for majority of people. Spider-Man 2 is the second best superhero movie ! TDK & Spider-Man 2 still rules !
It's funny cause imo both the spiderman 1 and batman begins and 2,TDK set the standard for comic book movies
@@casper6405 I love Batman Begins ! in Top 10 best superhero movies, very good movie.... but Top 2 are always TDK & Spider-Man 2 !!!
Ock looks back at Mary Jane and then Peter. Greatest scenes I've experienced. 5:03
SpiderMan ( Tobey Maguire ) : now tell me how to stop it
Doctor Octopus ( Alfred Molina ) : it can't be stop because there is a Multiverse and it's self sustaining now
Such simpler times this was, when actresses didn’t wear bras.
Ahh thats why everyone loved raimi trilogy.
Thanks to kirsten dunst
@@JONZII7 I was trying not to go full simp but it really seems Rami just added water into almost ever damn scene she’s in and I’m not complaining at all
@@jaefizz1862 ya just look at the upside down kiss scene in spiderman 1, im pretty sure sam raimi liked directing this movie l9l
Now I know why Spidey always fought so hard , man didn’t wanna jeopardize his b*obies.
@@jaefizz1862 In Raimi movies Even extras look like Supermodels. He is definitively a Chad
Back when Spider-Man villains were complex characters with emotional depth and not just guys who got their feelings hurt by Tony Stark.
People like you make it so hard for me to try and enjoy these great films when you trash
The mcu like stfu two things can exist at once,not everything needs to be raimi spider-man
I can enjoy the MCU but when they made Mysterio connected to Tony Stark, my first thought was “lazy writing.” MCU Spider-Man should have better writing. No excuses. Don’t settle for less.
@@psykosav6459 raimi spidey is the best, and most accurate. Cry about it
@@gor9027 They still got everything about his character from the comics down right though.
@@thefilmwatcher1302 They got nothing about his character from the comics right. In FFH, Mysterio was an illusion created by an entire crew of scientists, whilst in the comics, Quentin Beck rides solo. Not to mention all of his illusions came from drones projecting holograms in the movie. In the comics, Beck uses a wide array of techniques to build his illusions.
0:35 all it would really take is one punch to knock out doc ock. In a comic series where ock swapped brains with spiderman, he punched scorpion and immediately knocked out his jaw clean off. And that's when he realized spiderman was holding back all along.
Well yeah his super strong and always holds back his punches, he usually takes out goons with a couple of punches. In the train scene for example doc keeps getting punched in the face, arms or no arms that shit still hurts xD
@@Mrjohnny164 still, that shit should have probably cracked his skull or something like that
@@crabohato4954 yeah thats what I ment
Hes super strong so he holds back but he still punches REALLY hard, just not hard enough to break anything. But doc is a normal person and not even a fighter, if the average street goon gets K.Oed with 2-3 punches so should he
@@Mrjohnny164 Maybe the robot arms strapped to his back stop him from feeling as much pain as he normally would through their invasion into his nervous system. Doesn't explain his super durability/combat speed but it comes close
Sometimes to do things right you have to be steady and give up the things that we want the most even our dreams.
Sorry my bad I said that wrong I wasn't following the instructions.
may you give up but still there is a second chance friend🙂🙂🙂🙂
@@youtubegoogle6899 I don't know you
Guess i have to give up my solution for cancer now.
@@Kriz10010 what are you talking about?
1:57
When my calculator can't solve a question that I can't solve
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LOOOL
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Naa this is a good comment 😅
I see Tobey, then i click it ... Simple ...
Me too 😍
same.
Really like the detail of the red light on the arms going back to white when octavius takes back control
Spies In Disguise spoilers:
The villain, who is a cyborg, he has a red eye, but when Walter Beckett saved him, his eye turned blue.
The best spider-man ever
As much as I love this movie. Best Spider-Man movie ever I am taken back by how many times he has to hit doc oc. He can lift like 25 tons or more so one ouch he could knock his head off. I’d love to see Spider-Man puck through walls and show his strength. Anyone else feel this way?
He'll end up killing alot of ppl doing that
He HAS TO pull his punches, if he doesn’t he’d end up killing everyone he hits
Spider-man holds up his punches greatly in fights.
It would be fun to see a version of Spider-Man when up against real baddies be like I don’t have time for this shit and eliminates them with one punch! Just saying! It would be nice seeing spider show off his strength more. Punch through walls, rip open cars etc
"Sometimes, to do whats right we have to be steady and give up the things we want the most"
1:49 Spider-man looks absolutely badass in that tattered suit.
That’s the third time for these two fighting with each other
First, they fought in the bank
Second, They fought on the train
Finally, They fought here!
The cafe scene
Yeah
@@akaz9385 wasn't so much of a fight,more like an interaction.
Yeah like having a quiet chat or something
This scene was the most impactful every time I keep rewatching it.
3:03 that's the moment when doc ock was teleported to Tom's universe 😮
I wonder where did he landed when he got transported
Probably the same place but different universe like the post credits scene of VLTC
People may agree or disagree but for me Toby Maguire did the best spider man ever
Bro thought he was the next Oppenheimer
BRILLIANT BUT LAZY WHOLE CHARACTER DESCRIBES IN THESE TWO WORDS🙂🙂🙂🙂
"I will not die a monster"
.Doc Ock
Love how he realized Spider man is Peter parker
He doesn't need to come back. All of them had good send-offs. Bringing Goblin and Doc Ock back is just a way to bank on our nostalgia. Their stories ended here
I agree
They're variants. Just like Alfred said, they came from a Universe in which they succeeded in their goals, they didn't change, they're evils.
@@earljames5415 In terms of the movie's story, yes. But for those who grew up watching the Raimi trilogy, it feels unnecessary. It's manipulative way to bring back characters from older movies for the sake of nostalgia. Rather than creating an original story, Disney banks on our love for the older movies
@@danielmaspoch4314 I grew up watching the Raimi Trilogy and I'm not that mad just like you are right now.
Literally none of this retcons what happened in those Movies, Norman dies, Octavius Dies, Eddie Dies, Harry Dies, Flint is forgiven, Kurt is in a prison, Harry is also probably in Prison, Electro is made of electricity, he could've escaped at the last second so I don't think he died. THOSE THINGS AS PERMANENT, IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Now this Movie will ask the Question, What if those things are changed and those villains succeeded and quite possibly killed Spider-Man only to terrorize Tom's Spider-Man.
These villains are from a branch history.
And what do you want? Another villain that has a connection with Tony Stark? That's literally why I hated the first two MCU Spider-Man Movies, they were never Peter's adversaries, They were Stark's villains.
@@earljames5415 I dont mind the retconning. It just feels cheap to bring them back. I agree that a multiverse story would be better than yet another Tony stark villain story, but I doubt that the story will be that good. The movie will exist for the sole reason to attract old fans. It might be cool to see them again, but it wont be very meaningful
4:07 is the a reason why the "hands" of the bottom two tentacles change to match the top two, before that they were always different.
Could be they were damaged
maybe to hold Peter's neck, idk
Something that I never understood about this scene is that the mechanical arms are not being pulled in by that sun. I know they were made to harness the sun but that means that they wouldnt be pulled either?
He explained it earlier, they were unaffected to heat and magnetism.
3:20 It always bothered me that Otto contradicted himself. When he and Peter first met, Otto tells him that intelligence is not a privilege, it's a gift. And now here he says it is a privilege. Make up your mind will ya?
Probably the arms messing with him
A gift to have it, a privilege to save the mankind and being a hero.
It’s called character development
In the novelization, it says that Otto was echoing his own words.
Doc Ock was eating them punches 😂
Doc Ock in 2021 : Hello Peter~
3:07 is probably when doc was teleported into Tom's universe.
That’s so much good lines in this movie love it
So I know I can't be the only one who's thought of this but considering the pull of the mini sun was enough to rip a metal structure apart I don't see how MJ's body, let alone her clothing wouldn't get ripped apart by the pull.
Shhh just go along with it.
Because it pulls only metals. It's shown pretty clearly.
@@TheNemesis432 yeah, but she had a metal chain attachet to her feet, and those were pulled, what should've ripped her appart lol
@@TheNemesis432 I admit I don't know anything about Fusion but if its a mini sun and generating a gravitational pull I don't see why it would only affect metal, since gravity should pull it everything
Imagine he couldn't rip the cables and Doctor Octopus dies and now he can't figure out that he should put the machine in the ocean so everyone dies.
Suppose at the end of the fight both doc Ock and Spider Man went to the black hole and enter the mcu
Really don’t want the MCU to ruin this.
Doc ock yes . But Spider-Man no ......Spider-Man 3 exists
Imagine. If getting electrocuted made otto turn into electro
If only there's another external source that modifies his genetic makeup to store all that electricity. 😅😍😍
The boys are back in town
0:33 you're welcome
Can’t wait to see Tom go up against hkm
Kirsten Dunst's MJ and screaming. Name a better duo!
0:19 Raimi has serious issues with Spidey's suit, doesn't he?
1:28 when you think you could be hero
Wouldn't Doc just be drawn into the mini sun since his arms are metal?
They're built to be able to sustain it, specifically built to obtain and control the fusion reaction, so pretty much even if they're metal they can withstand it. He even says in the demonstration, "they are impervious to heat, and magnetism." Therefore the arms aren't being pulled in
1:37 why it's so funny 🤣🤣🤣
Just imagine how Alfred Molina would have been feeling when he was making those gestures! :)
Who’s here after seeing the Spider-Man No Way Home trailer?
I forgot how much Mary Jane was annoying in these movies
I don't think so. She was better than Zendaya in far from home.
MJ overhears Doc Ock saying "I should've known Osborn wouldn't have the spine to finish you." So she should know Harry Osborn was given the chance to kill Spiderman. Instead, being MJ, she quickly forgets about this and, next film, asks Peter what's wrong between him and Harry. Not brilliant, but lazy. If she'd paid attention she would know Harry almost killed Peter.
1:32 let’s see you scurry out of this 😈
2004 Doc Ock moves more realistic than Tom Holland Spider-man.
So are they gonna explain in NWH how he managed to put on a turtle neck when he was transported? Just asking lmao
He probably was transported to MCU, and there he spent few hours put on the new clothes, and attacked the bridge within hours.
@@aniruddhmurthy6970Yeah, not to mention he was totally wet during the fight, so...
Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire) rescues Mary Jane (Kirsten Dunst) and defeats Doc Ock (Alfred Molina).
yesfriend
*Convinces* Dr. Octopus. Reminds him that he was no monster.
XO
Hello Peter 😎
The Passenger Stations (1946) - April 17th, 1946, Captain Edward Franks VS King Kalakaiopuu Kainamamao/King Kalakaiopuu Kainamamao's Death.
Brilliant but lazy! ❤️😇
Spider-Man will defeat doc ock with electricity from electro in no way home 1:37 🤣
3:00 *teleported*
Best spiderman
These was the great spider vs dock in the movies just like the movies games stories and marvel stories
Doc Ock Knew that Norman Osborn was Goblin !
Um... how exactly did he know that?
These Things have turned you into something you're not. Don't listen to them.
I wonder how much Kirsten Dunst was paid for each "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!" in this scene.
AAAHHH AHHH AH ~Mary Jane
Who here after Spiderman trailer release?
This proves that dr oc really can't beat spiderman head on
The most humane spider man we can relate with
Alfred Molina, the best Dr.Octopus
doc ock said he would drown the machine
How did the tentacles not get sucked into the sun?
3:27 every softengineering live this when they take error on code anyway
Peter parker used Talk-no jutsu
Octopus Vs Homem Aranha Luta
Hello Peter
This Is Is what i call cruel sun XD
If Spider-Man let DocOc take care of the machine it may have worked 😳
0:32 nice
0:04 he should have known
1:18 Chasse Neige by Liszt!
Duende Verde Vs Homem Aranha Luta
Is tritium going to be in the new movie???
0:50 she Doesn’t have anything else to do
Who's here after no way home guys?
That damn thing looks like a sun,why u didn't drown it into the river?Mehhh
0:32.
:)
I see what you did here, with mhm water and wet something
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4:56 see you again...!
❤👍❤
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This is FAKE, the actual OST in this scene is I Gotta Feeling by The Black Eyed Peas :v
Do more fast and furious
do more fast and furious
Doc Ock has 4 human limbs and 4 mechanical limbs. Couldn't he be considered a spider, as well? The more you know.
Shit you're right.
If only the mechanical arms are spider-like, just like the ones on the Iron Spider armor, u know what I mean.
Alfred Molina story start from there In MCU Spider-man no way home
Wow look at that dress she is were she always new how to dress sexy when it come to kidnapped 😍😍
Oh my
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