Thank you for validating some of my choices - Scubapro, Shearwater, Xdeep. Will you be having a part 3? I haven't seen Orcatorch, Ikelite, Nauticam, Fourth Element & Tusa yet. :P
HOG Zenith Regulator…balanced environmentally sealed diaphragm regulators are incredibly well built and are priced fairly, it is difficult to surpass their quality or even match it. Seriously curious if you guys have used them and still rate them a C?
Question, Is new Oceanic junk compared to the older stuff say 2002-2004 product line? My dads health at 70 has ended his diving career and he has passed on all his gear to me I know I will need to see if all the gear can be serviced and brought up to snuff. Is Oceanic just junk all around?? Specific to their Regulators is my concern
What....no Poseidon? Used by verious Navys, rescue divers NYPD, Coastguard and even NASA. The SE7EN ccr. The Cyklone Introduced in 1958 one of the first singel hose regs and still made today. Jetstream (use them myself) can be used to 656feet and diliver really high flowrates at every depth. Granted thay are a bit "industreal" in there design, not so much Lamborghini Countach more Volvo V70. But thats got to count for something...right?
@@Wh1p58 A question if I may. I am curious if the side exhaust ever bothers you if you turn your head so that it is facing down? Don't all the bubbles just go right into your face?
@@badgermoon9229 Hi, To be honest I have never noticed that, they tend to drift upwards along the side of hood, and mostly I am with a film camera or rigging something so it's not something that I've had to think about, will keep it in mind tomorrow :) but that is why they exhaust from the side so that the exhaust gas vents out of the way.
Any thoughts on the HOGTotal Buoyancy Control System Package with 32lb wing? Buying my first bcd and going back and forth between the HOG, DGX BP/W, and or just getting Zeagle Stilleto (despite the weight system). Recreational diver. Will be diving Nor Cal plus warm water travel diving.
I'd go DGX bpw. It'll be nice to have the modularity. You'll likely wear a lot of weight in Nor Cal, it'll be nice to be able to strip down your bcd to do some easy dives in a rash guard in Cozumel or wherever. Having a steel plate for extra weight in the cold water is also very useful.
Thanks. Was leaning toward the Zeagle for simplicity. Just fold it and go but was hesitant because of the horseshoe wing and soft plate. Have heard and read the horseshoe can be a little difficult when it comes to releasing air.
Recent mask change to a Cressi and can't believe how comfy it is for me. My gear is great for travel to warm water locales and focused slightly on minimalist. ScubaPro HydrosPro w/Air2 & Mk 25 w/ A700 and Teric with transmitter. Love my gear, love your shows.
Hollis replaced my drysuit, no questions asked. Seem leak. Regs, drysuit, semi dry suit, masks etc I have them all, been diving for over 20 years and it's about the company and do they back their products and hollis does, my buddy who is crazy hard on gear had his semi dry suit replaced at least 5 times with little questioning about what happened. Last year I purchased the prism 2 from hollis, so I feel comfortable commenting on Hollis products. Before Hollis all I dove was scuba pro. Never thought I'd switch to any other brand.
Pretty much agree 100%. Shearwater are the computers i push everyone that asks towards, although my partner dives a garmin mk2 descent and loves the thing. Looking at an another xdeep bc, sidemount this time incase i decide to go with a KISS CCR instead of the meg. Although the people i dive with often are meg-holics and I'm still hella unsure.
I'd be happy to have a conversation with you about their differences. I think the meg is a great rebreather and personally don't care what others dive, so I'll give it to you straight.
Great video. I'm really in love with XDEEP as well, but torn on their ST BCs... I want one for travel and the Ghost seems to be the go-to for that, but I like how the Zen has bladder separate from the protective outside (Ghost does not). What are your thoughts? I do want to get into tech diving, so leaning towards Zen, and prob fine paying extra for luggage fees if it's just the better buy. Glad I found your channel the other day. Really valuable information in a great style. Definitely getting Garand Thumb channel feel from your channel. Keep it up!
@AnthonyRGarcia: My solution is to combine Xdeep Zen's wing with Ghost's Superlight plate. Perfect set-up for travelling. And then for drysuit diving, I just switch to XDeep's heavier steel plate. Problem solved...
@@pellelidell007 Thanks! I ended up going with the Zen all the way. I get everything in a Pelican Air case except my regs (carry-on), and is under the weight limit. The Zen is still very travel friendly.
Cool! I hope you enjoy your Zen as much as I do. Can't really see myself diving with another wing - it's so comfy, well-built and sturdy. And it looks good too. The R&D at XDeep are truly innovative and excellent.
Aluminium Zen is the S Tier BPW setup. Just get the camband trim pockets and you can add up to about 12kg of lead if you need it for drysuit. The centre of buoyancy beats the crap out of my previous system which was a mashup of a custom divers backplate steel (old tech style), APEKS WTX30 PSD wing and a Halcyon harness. The webbing is a lot more rigid than the Halcyon stuff though so might change it out for a Halcyon harness if it doesn't soften up with time.
My dive shop is diver supply and they push hog gear hard because it’s their brand lol. Just bought a teric because of your shearwater vid so I’d love some shearwater merch!
In outro you should have showed the full tier list final version, and maybe review/reavaluated if still stands. Also ranking within each tier would have been a good touch, expected for tier lists. Great comments, otherwise
Own some cressi Stuff, almost a year since i bought it ( 42 dives) my BCD is missing one ring, my weight Back pocket broke at the second Dive with 1kg, My wetsuit is fraying to much and finally yesterday my cressi regulator crack the front plastic piece… i dont know If my cressi equipment gonna last to much… very disapointed … salutations fron Spain
Ah as one who dives a OMS backplate and wing combo, sucks to see them so far down, because I love my set up. But I do agree I’d never use thier bungie wings!
This was all just a big goof. Like yes, this has genuinely been our experience with that gear, but it's not to be taken seriously. We're just clowning on brands and simping for our favorites for entertainment sake. OMS has changed a lot since I last used any of their gear and it all looks fine now. You honestly cant go wrong with any BPW combo as long as the wing isnt massive and it doesn't have bungees to catch on stuff. Enjoy diving your shit and screw what anyone else thinks, especially me!
@@DiveVibe hey I thanks for the reply! I like a huge verity of brands and don’t have any loyalty, and any BPW combo is good I quite agree. Keep up the good content, the number two rule of dii is being after never stop breathing is hav fun am I right? Love from Monterey❤️
Right? Their new regs look like mk25s. Some of their regs are rebreanded deep6 regs, which are known to be pretty good. Not sure about the mk25 clones though. I'd love to take one apart.
If this is to be apples to apples tier list, you shouldn't mix in specialist brands (JJ, Kiss- they only do CCRs; Shearwater - only computers), otherwise, we could start listing drysuit makers, other computer brands, only torch makers and list OrcaTorch on S tier. Thats not helpful. First, you should establish a clear criteria for which brands are on the list in the first place and why. For a general purpose tier list you should only have large enough brands that do at least regs & BCs/Wings + other stuff, IMHO
I would go c for mares, because I heared in Switzerland the Mares support is just awful. I don't know if it's just here in Switzerland, but if I need support, I want to get helpped.
came across this and it is a good video but I think there needs to be a little context here. I have been diving for ten years. Not much by many people's standards but, none the less, I would point out that this is abit biased to the technical diving side of things. I am not a technical diver and connot speak to their point on these issues. As a rec diver I would say you should listen very closely to their concerns that caused them to down rate certain brands. They aren't wrong, but do your care if HOG made a bade side mount BCD if you are a rec diver? there are sveral other examples like this. good info. shouldn't be discounted. just should be put in context. listen closely before just looking at the graphic and choosing. that said, i really agree with their Suunto comments. My sheawater dies and I was given a Suunto by the dive shop and OMG it was so loud, hard to manipulate and so conservative I cannot believe I completed more than 2 dives in a day.
I was not aware that highland did a reg. My experience with highland has been with their hardware, like bands for backmount doubles and such. I've found their products to be very robust. I'd be cautious about buying a highland reg, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was pretty good given their track record.
I like your list... I do however have one question... What the hell happened to Poseidon!!? The CYKLON, dive it anywhere, any temperature. And now there is the Cyklon X, which uses the XStream First Stage, makes it an any gas regulator. Then of course, the XStream, the ONLY OC Regulator approved for operation to 200 meters. And all of this at a price point LESS, than several pretenders... COUGH!! SCUBAPRO!! Cough, cough....
They make accessories mostly, been around for a long time. I personally wouldn't use any of their regs or BCDs, but their accessories are usually pretty good.
Hey Kyler, if you look at the about section on my channel you can see my email address. Feel free to contact me there. Always down to talk to a fellow vet.
Thank you for validating some of my choices - Scubapro, Shearwater, Xdeep. Will you be having a part 3? I haven't seen Orcatorch, Ikelite, Nauticam, Fourth Element & Tusa yet. :P
HOG Zenith Regulator…balanced environmentally sealed diaphragm regulators are incredibly well built and are priced fairly, it is difficult to surpass their quality or even match it. Seriously curious if you guys have used them and still rate them a C?
I own the AL L3gend MBS and the Hog and can't tell a difference in breathing. Solid regs.
Xdeep bolt snaps are life…. Don’t even ask how much money I have spent on bolt snaps
Thanks so much for your wonderful video. It was helpful for a returning diver like me. Appreciate it.
You are most welcome Eric! Thanks for the kind words my friend.
Question, Is new Oceanic junk compared to the older stuff say 2002-2004 product line? My dads health at 70 has ended his diving career and he has passed on all his gear to me I know I will need to see if all the gear can be serviced and brought up to snuff. Is Oceanic just junk all around?? Specific to their Regulators is my concern
What....no Poseidon?
Used by verious Navys, rescue divers NYPD, Coastguard and even NASA.
The SE7EN ccr.
The Cyklone Introduced in 1958 one of the first singel hose regs and still made today. Jetstream (use them myself) can be used to 656feet and diliver really high flowrates at every depth.
Granted thay are a bit "industreal" in there design, not so much Lamborghini Countach more Volvo V70.
But thats got to count for something...right?
My Thoughts exactly I've dived them for over 30 years
Xstreams look amazing though, I find my Jetstreams tend to be quite heavy? after 4 hours a day
@@Wh1p58 A question if I may. I am curious if the side exhaust ever bothers you if you turn your head so that it is facing down? Don't all the bubbles just go right into your face?
@@badgermoon9229 Hi, To be honest I have never noticed that, they tend to drift upwards along the side of hood, and mostly I am with a film camera or rigging something so it's not something that I've had to think about, will keep it in mind tomorrow :) but that is why they exhaust from the side so that the exhaust gas vents out of the way.
@@Wh1p58 Thanks. I'm in the process of selecting gear for my son and I've never dived on a side exhaust.
Any thoughts on the HOGTotal Buoyancy Control System Package with 32lb wing? Buying my first bcd and going back and forth between the HOG, DGX BP/W, and or just getting Zeagle Stilleto (despite the weight system). Recreational diver. Will be diving Nor Cal plus warm water travel diving.
I'd go DGX bpw. It'll be nice to have the modularity. You'll likely wear a lot of weight in Nor Cal, it'll be nice to be able to strip down your bcd to do some easy dives in a rash guard in Cozumel or wherever. Having a steel plate for extra weight in the cold water is also very useful.
Thanks. Was leaning toward the Zeagle for simplicity. Just fold it and go but was hesitant because of the horseshoe wing and soft plate. Have heard and read the horseshoe can be a little difficult when it comes to releasing air.
Recent mask change to a Cressi and can't believe how comfy it is for me. My gear is great for travel to warm water locales and focused slightly on minimalist. ScubaPro HydrosPro w/Air2 & Mk 25 w/ A700 and Teric with transmitter. Love my gear, love your shows.
Cressi masks are pretty sweet actually.
Many don’t know this, but Huish is the parent company to all of the following:
Atomic, Hollis, oceanic, BARE, Seattle and Suunto
Hollis replaced my drysuit, no questions asked. Seem leak. Regs, drysuit, semi dry suit, masks etc I have them all, been diving for over 20 years and it's about the company and do they back their products and hollis does, my buddy who is crazy hard on gear had his semi dry suit replaced at least 5 times with little questioning about what happened. Last year I purchased the prism 2 from hollis, so I feel comfortable commenting on Hollis products. Before Hollis all I dove was scuba pro. Never thought I'd switch to any other brand.
That's great to hear William. I agree that a company backing their product is the most important thing. Thanks so much for your comment.
Pretty much agree 100%. Shearwater are the computers i push everyone that asks towards, although my partner dives a garmin mk2 descent and loves the thing.
Looking at an another xdeep bc, sidemount this time incase i decide to go with a KISS CCR instead of the meg. Although the people i dive with often are meg-holics and I'm still hella unsure.
I'd be happy to have a conversation with you about their differences. I think the meg is a great rebreather and personally don't care what others dive, so I'll give it to you straight.
@@DiveVibe - can never have too many opinions or facts before making a choice. So I'm down to hear your thoughts!
What's the consensus on Zeagle? I've been diving their stuff since '97, so I'm somewhat partial to them, but I'd like to hear your opinion.
Some of their stuff is a little bulky, but it's all super tough. Definitely known for their durability.
Great video. I'm really in love with XDEEP as well, but torn on their ST BCs... I want one for travel and the Ghost seems to be the go-to for that, but I like how the Zen has bladder separate from the protective outside (Ghost does not). What are your thoughts? I do want to get into tech diving, so leaning towards Zen, and prob fine paying extra for luggage fees if it's just the better buy. Glad I found your channel the other day. Really valuable information in a great style. Definitely getting Garand Thumb channel feel from your channel. Keep it up!
@AnthonyRGarcia:
My solution is to combine Xdeep Zen's wing with Ghost's Superlight plate. Perfect set-up for travelling. And then for drysuit diving, I just switch to XDeep's heavier steel plate. Problem solved...
@@pellelidell007 Thanks! I ended up going with the Zen all the way. I get everything in a Pelican Air case except my regs (carry-on), and is under the weight limit. The Zen is still very travel friendly.
Cool! I hope you enjoy your Zen as much as I do. Can't really see myself diving with another wing - it's so comfy, well-built and sturdy. And it looks good too. The R&D at XDeep are truly innovative and excellent.
Aluminium Zen is the S Tier BPW setup. Just get the camband trim pockets and you can add up to about 12kg of lead if you need it for drysuit. The centre of buoyancy beats the crap out of my previous system which was a mashup of a custom divers backplate steel (old tech style), APEKS WTX30 PSD wing and a Halcyon harness. The webbing is a lot more rigid than the Halcyon stuff though so might change it out for a Halcyon harness if it doesn't soften up with time.
What are your thoughts on the Zeagle F8 regulators.
I was wondering that very thing. Also, an opinion on Zeagle BCs.
My dive shop is diver supply and they push hog gear hard because it’s their brand lol. Just bought a teric because of your shearwater vid so I’d love some shearwater merch!
Shoot me an email, you can find it the about section of my channel.
Rating scuba BLEEP brands! Working the shaft of the brands at the same time? BOC 🐔 good times, great nfo.
looool, I cant help it, I like scuba gear! I did shit on OMS though, that's gotta be worth something.
I also have 3 shearwater computers, lol, they are great
I miss Techline, SEAC, Beuchat and IST Dolphin.
You could create something like this for neoprene. I guess this could be funny
In outro you should have showed the full tier list final version, and maybe review/reavaluated if still stands. Also ranking within each tier would have been a good touch, expected for tier lists.
Great comments, otherwise
Own some cressi Stuff, almost a year since i bought it ( 42 dives) my BCD is missing one ring, my weight Back pocket broke at the second Dive with 1kg, My wetsuit is fraying to much and finally yesterday my cressi regulator crack the front plastic piece… i dont know If my cressi equipment gonna last to much… very disapointed … salutations fron Spain
That's super frustrating Marc. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.
i've tried a lot of fins and i keep coming back to avanti quattros, i do like mares bpw too but their regs are just meh
I think you missed Seac, SoprasTek.
Otherwise - yeah, not much to disagree with there. A bit surprised about OMS, but I might not know too much
didnt try OMS wings, but Slipstream fins - I love it, really good. In same line with deep6 fins
I've used both and I agree. Very good fins.
Ah as one who dives a OMS backplate and wing combo, sucks to see them so far down, because I love my set up. But I do agree I’d never use thier bungie wings!
This was all just a big goof. Like yes, this has genuinely been our experience with that gear, but it's not to be taken seriously. We're just clowning on brands and simping for our favorites for entertainment sake. OMS has changed a lot since I last used any of their gear and it all looks fine now. You honestly cant go wrong with any BPW combo as long as the wing isnt massive and it doesn't have bungees to catch on stuff. Enjoy diving your shit and screw what anyone else thinks, especially me!
@@DiveVibe hey I thanks for the reply! I like a huge verity of brands and don’t have any loyalty, and any BPW combo is good I quite agree. Keep up the good content, the number two rule of dii is being after never stop breathing is hav fun am I right? Love from Monterey❤️
But what about Poseidon 😢
Same question!
@@egoryushchenko1784 Ditto ?? I've dived Poseidon since the late eighties no dramas ever.
Possibly the greatest of all. Built to last and almost all models of regulator can still be serviced today decades later.
I don’t think they heard of it. 😂
would love to hear your thoughts on Dive Gear Express. Seems like excellent equipment for an unbeatable price!
Right? Their new regs look like mk25s. Some of their regs are rebreanded deep6 regs, which are known to be pretty good. Not sure about the mk25 clones though. I'd love to take one apart.
@@DiveVibe they have a full breakdown and service video on TH-cam.
I was recently told that friends don't let friends buy Oceanic. Hard to believe they're so closely related to Hollis!
XDeep pretty much failed their venture into regs from what I heard.
I think the Darkwater group owns KISS and XDeep.
What about Zeagle? I agree with your rating on Aqualung. I really like Zeagles BC's
i also really like zeagle bc's.
If this is to be apples to apples tier list, you shouldn't mix in specialist brands (JJ, Kiss- they only do CCRs; Shearwater - only computers), otherwise, we could start listing drysuit makers, other computer brands, only torch makers and list OrcaTorch on S tier. Thats not helpful.
First, you should establish a clear criteria for which brands are on the list in the first place and why.
For a general purpose tier list you should only have large enough brands that do at least regs & BCs/Wings + other stuff, IMHO
Xdeep drysuit is the best one I've used! Alon with the wing.
you didnt mention zeagle, I have a pair of their fins and love em, other than that IDK....
Was hoping tusa and where they rank hopefully will be a part 3.
Cant believe I forgot Tusa!
I would go c for mares, because I heared in Switzerland the Mares support is just awful. I don't know if it's just here in Switzerland, but if I need support, I want to get helpped.
This! So important to be able to get service for your gear. Thanks for the input Ben! I was not aware of that.
I would have it at Apeks S tier, Cressi D tier!
Apeks does have some really nice stuff... and cressi does have some bullshit... lol
Wow not a mention of Poseidon Gear, ??
What about Seac?
Good video guys!
Thanks Kevyn! You're awesome!
What mask anti fog do you use?
Seadrops or baby shampoo/water.
Also like Frog Spit
Halcyon is S easily.
Is XScuba a knock off cheap brand?
I think Scubapro should have been an S simply because of their regs and masks. Top quality
Since I made that video I am actually using mostly scubapro regs, so I'd have to agree their regs are an S for sure.
came across this and it is a good video but I think there needs to be a little context here. I have been diving for ten years. Not much by many people's standards but, none the less, I would point out that this is abit biased to the technical diving side of things. I am not a technical diver and connot speak to their point on these issues. As a rec diver I would say you should listen very closely to their concerns that caused them to down rate certain brands. They aren't wrong, but do your care if HOG made a bade side mount BCD if you are a rec diver? there are sveral other examples like this. good info. shouldn't be discounted. just should be put in context. listen closely before just looking at the graphic and choosing. that said, i really agree with their Suunto comments. My sheawater dies and I was given a Suunto by the dive shop and OMG it was so loud, hard to manipulate and so conservative I cannot believe I completed more than 2 dives in a day.
What about highland vortex?
I was not aware that highland did a reg. My experience with highland has been with their hardware, like bands for backmount doubles and such. I've found their products to be very robust. I'd be cautious about buying a highland reg, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was pretty good given their track record.
how bout Tusa?
I like your list... I do however have one question...
What the hell happened to Poseidon!!? The CYKLON, dive it anywhere, any temperature. And now there is the Cyklon X, which uses the XStream First Stage, makes it an any gas regulator. Then of course, the XStream, the ONLY OC Regulator approved for operation to 200 meters. And all of this at a price point LESS, than several pretenders... COUGH!! SCUBAPRO!! Cough, cough....
Looool
I’m from Mexico and I don’t use a Mares fin’s. My fin’s are apeks RK3
Me too!
Is XScuba a knock off new brand?
They make accessories mostly, been around for a long time. I personally wouldn't use any of their regs or BCDs, but their accessories are usually pretty good.
Thanks for your reply!
Amscud?
rEvo is B ???
Nah, rEvo on it's own is pure S tier.
Also the OMS website is the worst of all the brands. Almost comedic amount of typos and errors lol
Hey Zach I’m a military diver and I would love to have a conversation with you. Please dm me.
Hey Kyler, if you look at the about section on my channel you can see my email address. Feel free to contact me there. Always down to talk to a fellow vet.