I love these kind of flaw. It's totally something I can see engineers made. Hell, I can imagine how Lakon head of design department screaming at the complaint. "Why the bloody hell are they using this thing to land exploratory SRV? Hell, why are they landing it on an unprepared surface at all? Obviously it's going to have issue operating from open terrain. It's a bloody cargo ship, for crying out loud."
That's the baffling part. I've deployed SRVs from things like Vultures or Vipers and when an SRV is present the landing-gear just magically extends far enough to accommodate the SRV. Based on that, I assumed FDev just sets a height-above-ground variable for the ship (depending on whether an SRV is in use or not) and then "stretches" the landing gear downward until it touches the surface. In that case, fixing the problem with the T8 would just mean increasing the height-above-ground variable by 1m or whatever. Surprised it's not a simple fix... except that, with FDev, simple fixes rarely turn out to be simple.
...or Lakon design team ommited the extension part because they only anticipate the pilots to use Type 8 Transport as a cargo ship, mainly landed on landing pad or at least the flat surface next to a settlement, because why the flak would people take a cargo ship to land on the unprepared surface?
Considering this is a Lakon ship, I'm surprised it has this flaw (lakon making some of the most interesting exploration options, sometimes unintentionally as with the Type-6), but then again this ship is intended to finally corner the mid-tier Hauler category that the Python has held an iron grip over for so long, so I guess it was simply an oversight. I do hope they address this somehow though, would be neat to try to make this into some kind of abomination of a multipurpose ship like I do. You should see my Federal Dropship I use as a Miner. It's god-awful, I love it.
As long as the ship doesn't take damage when you try to wiggle and squish in a SRV... That would be embarrasing to explain to the insurance company. "No Sir, I tell you, I'm a good SRV driver... what do you mean sampling substances? I wasn't scanning plants, I was murdering innocent settlements!"
LOL! I was not planning to use it for much surface stuff anyway... But a nice warning. I think they had to extend the legs of a few ships when they initially introduced SRV's? The Sidewinder looks particularly odd with it's stilt legs for instance... ;)
New engineering feature coming in... Landing gear extender, materials still unknown, or SRV racing pack, lowering the profile of your SRV. Everything is provided by two new engineers, one in the bubble and one in Colonia. :). Thanks GNN Digest team for the nice report.
@@meoka2368 thats correct. What i'm saying is to avoid that SRV problem, when constructing the ship in there CAD program, put a ramp at the back of the ship with the "trigger" to let the SRV "board ship". Just like when the SRV is under the bay doors, there is a "trigger" to let the "board ship" button enable. When deploying the SRV the pilot can chose if to deploy under the ship or out the back.
I've had this issue with the Asp Explorer, due to the terrain. The inherent problem in Elite Dangerous is the landing system deciding that flat, smooth terrain is "unsuitable" for some unfathomable reason but landing on top of a pile of rocks with 3 of 4 landing legs standing on the air is perfectly suitable!
It would be an unexpected chance to add a nice detail that T8 5o have different landing configurations per landing condition, such as not retracting the engine bay when land on bumpy terrain. One can dream, at least.
Thank you for covering this issue. I was almost ready to click to buy the Type-8 and then I remembered a comment on a a stream questioning if a SRV would fit under the ship. Now I am on the fence as to whether or not I should buy one.
It's a fun ship! Unless you're specifically planning on using it in a role that requires an SRV, I'd recommend picking one up. FDev will absolutely fix this issue before it goes into general release.
Standard Lakon quality. The T7 has the length, width, and mass to fit on a medium pad, but can't use them. The only explanation that made sense was that the Lakon engineers didn't check the height of medium bays... because it was slightly taller than other medium ships. Well... until the T8 came along. It's about 10 inches taller (23 cm). So there's absolutely no reason T7 shouldn't have been able to use them all along... or use them now.
Why it dont raise up on landing legs like every other ship while deploying SRV? For example-in normal situation SRV wouldnt fit under Imperial Courier or even Cobra but it fit. Why? Because while deploying SRV, ship raises on landing legs. Same goes for Krait and big Types too. It looks like FDEV forgot to add it here too
Meh, I've had this issue with other ships too on certain bad landing spots and I'm not getting one for SRVs anyway. But yes, extending landing gears a bit when not landing on a pad and deploying the SRV could fix the issue. Some other ships already do it.
Somebody should talk to an Engineer, see if they can install a low rider suspension on the SRV. And some cool underglow lighting. Maybe some fuzzy dice for the cockpit.
Dismissing the ship most likely will not work either, it has to re-land to pickup the SRV and when it does you're right back where you started from (maybe even worse off)
HOW THE HELL, has this not been tested by FDEV before coming out to public release. God I would be embarrassed if I was the developers to see this video...
I hope they don't take the lazy fix approach like they have with the DBE and just have the ship float a meter above the surface after landing in order to facilitate SRV entry and exit. Check it, when disembarking on foot the ship is on the surface, when disembarking in SRV the ship floats. SMH
Well that'll probably put the Kibosh on the buying of the Type 8 for a lot of players lol. Not well thought out on FDevs part if you ask me, but then again it is FDev after all.
Oh dear.. I knew that this ship was not "A True Lakon" just by the way it looks.. Oh well, on to the backburner you go, Type-8, maybe one day I will buy you.
Don't tell me it's the radiator. Surely by now it has been addressed. The Killdozer made it to space. It needs a skin and body kit with the gray armor etc.
Funny enough, a week ago I was on a flight that was delayed 20 minutes due to a mechanical issue, and they had to wait for an engineer to fix it. It turned out that the issue was just a sharp metal edge on some panel in the area where the flight attendants sit. Okay, that's a relief that it's not something flight critical, and I'm fine with waiting a bit for the sake of crew safety, but the "fix" was that the engineer just put some duct tape on the sharp edge. Like, did that actually require an engineer??
Before that they had the T7... a trade ship with a foot print clearly designed for medium pads, but can't use them. They only possible reason being that it's slightly taller than any other medium ship (it's not the largest by length, width, or mass), and medium bays don't have the head room for it.
10 years and i see Fdev is still the same incapable nonsense. just temporarily extend the legs, problem can be solved by a summer intern.but guess its too much of a challenge to them. but the video is nicely made, actually feel like an actual news digest would do if this happened in real life.
how's that "fatal", isn't she suppose to be a cargo ship? True, there is always that commander who uses FDL for exploration etc, but I don't think that warrants fatality
Haven't played ED for about a year but this video makes me think nothing much has changed. For any other game, this would either be a day 1 fix or, even better, would never have escaped out of alpha. For FDev, it's likely to be a permanent thing.
I love these kind of flaw. It's totally something I can see engineers made. Hell, I can imagine how Lakon head of design department screaming at the complaint.
"Why the bloody hell are they using this thing to land exploratory SRV? Hell, why are they landing it on an unprepared surface at all? Obviously it's going to have issue operating from open terrain. It's a bloody cargo ship, for crying out loud."
That last bit with the SRV, nice touch lol
Really tickled me that bumping noise 😆
Type 8 plus SRV = Austin Powers cart scene homage
I'm gonna go across the road and get some orange sherbert.
Oh, behave!
I can't believe you are complaining about the SRV mini game that came free with the type 8
It's a feature, CMDR!
Finally, news we can all stand below! (Or behind?)
Sounds like a hydraulics issue. I noticed that many ships actually extend the gear longer when the SRV is being deployed.
Yeah they should have it extend the landing gear like the diamondback explorer does
@@darkseraph2009and the Sidewinder too.
Stilts! 👍
That's the baffling part.
I've deployed SRVs from things like Vultures or Vipers and when an SRV is present the landing-gear just magically extends far enough to accommodate the SRV.
Based on that, I assumed FDev just sets a height-above-ground variable for the ship (depending on whether an SRV is in use or not) and then "stretches" the landing gear downward until it touches the surface.
In that case, fixing the problem with the T8 would just mean increasing the height-above-ground variable by 1m or whatever.
Surprised it's not a simple fix... except that, with FDev, simple fixes rarely turn out to be simple.
...or Lakon design team ommited the extension part because they only anticipate the pilots to use Type 8 Transport as a cargo ship, mainly landed on landing pad or at least the flat surface next to a settlement, because why the flak would people take a cargo ship to land on the unprepared surface?
One word: hover.
I knew it was too perfect to be perfect.
Well, there go my plans to see how the T8 works as an exploration vessel (as if I didn't have enough ships kitted for that job already).
Considering this is a Lakon ship, I'm surprised it has this flaw (lakon making some of the most interesting exploration options, sometimes unintentionally as with the Type-6), but then again this ship is intended to finally corner the mid-tier Hauler category that the Python has held an iron grip over for so long, so I guess it was simply an oversight. I do hope they address this somehow though, would be neat to try to make this into some kind of abomination of a multipurpose ship like I do. You should see my Federal Dropship I use as a Miner. It's god-awful, I love it.
As long as the ship doesn't take damage when you try to wiggle and squish in a SRV...
That would be embarrasing to explain to the insurance company. "No Sir, I tell you, I'm a good SRV driver... what do you mean sampling substances? I wasn't scanning plants, I was murdering innocent settlements!"
I love this. This makes the Type 8 a real ship. A real flaw that doesn’t impact its primary medium haulage role.
you can't take it back I love her
Your light hearted humor is the best I have seen covering any game. Love it!
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Unfortunate.
Oh man that's hilarious. I expect they'll fix it, but for now that's hilarious.
They'll probably have it so the ship's landing gears will extend a bit further and lift the ship higher when the SRV deploys.
what a charming report. lovely
I love you folks so much!
C'mon FDEV, this isn't rocket science 🤣
Welp, it's simulated rocket science. So they should have been doing what's done with rocket science: Test Test Test !!!
LOL! I was not planning to use it for much surface stuff anyway...
But a nice warning.
I think they had to extend the legs of a few ships when they initially introduced SRV's?
The Sidewinder looks particularly odd with it's stilt legs for instance... ;)
1:14 You can always dismiss your ship. The issue is getting into your ship...
2:24
Well, you can always sacrifice your SRV. 😇😉
Seems like they did not do enough testing
Good to know - wasn't planning on using with an SRV.
That is soooooo funny I could cry…good testing fdev
Sounds like a revision to the Type 8 Landing gear coming soon.
New engineering feature coming in... Landing gear extender, materials still unknown, or SRV racing pack, lowering the profile of your SRV. Everything is provided by two new engineers, one in the bubble and one in Colonia. :). Thanks GNN Digest team for the nice report.
This is hillarious! Love you guys so much!
the guffaw I guffawed at the end. 😂😂😂
I shouldn't laugh, but I did! That's why I'm driving the Scorpion!
just like how they have a ramp you can walk up, they should put a ramp at the back of the ship the SRV can drive up.
You can walk up it, but it's not how you enter the ship.
@@meoka2368 thats correct. What i'm saying is to avoid that SRV problem, when constructing the ship in there CAD program, put a ramp at the back of the ship with the "trigger" to let the SRV "board ship". Just like when the SRV is under the bay doors, there is a "trigger" to let the "board ship" button enable. When deploying the SRV the pilot can chose if to deploy under the ship or out the back.
I've had this issue with the Asp Explorer, due to the terrain. The inherent problem in Elite Dangerous is the landing system deciding that flat, smooth terrain is "unsuitable" for some unfathomable reason but landing on top of a pile of rocks with 3 of 4 landing legs standing on the air is perfectly suitable!
It would be an unexpected chance to add a nice detail that T8 5o have different landing configurations per landing condition, such as not retracting the engine bay when land on bumpy terrain. One can dream, at least.
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The super long wait for the Cutter successor continues....
Thank you for covering this issue. I was almost ready to click to buy the Type-8 and then I remembered a comment on a a stream questioning if a SRV would fit under the ship. Now I am on the fence as to whether or not I should buy one.
It's a fun ship! Unless you're specifically planning on using it in a role that requires an SRV, I'd recommend picking one up. FDev will absolutely fix this issue before it goes into general release.
Standard Lakon quality. The T7 has the length, width, and mass to fit on a medium pad, but can't use them. The only explanation that made sense was that the Lakon engineers didn't check the height of medium bays... because it was slightly taller than other medium ships. Well... until the T8 came along. It's about 10 inches taller (23 cm). So there's absolutely no reason T7 shouldn't have been able to use them all along... or use them now.
Interesting the scorpion is lower than the SRV and maybe the solution😊
I don't often laugh at your videos, but that ending was hilarious. Thanks for providing better news than Galnet itself.
Why it dont raise up on landing legs like every other ship while deploying SRV? For example-in normal situation SRV wouldnt fit under Imperial Courier or even Cobra but it fit. Why? Because while deploying SRV, ship raises on landing legs. Same goes for Krait and big Types too. It looks like FDEV forgot to add it here too
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Meh, I've had this issue with other ships too on certain bad landing spots and I'm not getting one for SRVs anyway. But yes, extending landing gears a bit when not landing on a pad and deploying the SRV could fix the issue. Some other ships already do it.
I’ve watched three times, this is a piece of art
Whoops. The Adder can have some problems if there's rocks, not much clearance.
Couse the Adder is tiny and old and you spend a week in it.
Design team at Lakon: I don't understand it. The SRV deploy and loading works fine on the test platform...
First it was the mail slot and now its SRV's
Minor detail... Walking is far healthier than driving... Hopefully they will repair the hydraulic pump on the gear before Wednesday!
That's a bit of a programming oversight on FDev's part.
A subtle respite from thargoid war
Heck y'all still doing this ?.....props 😎
Frontier not thinking things through?
Well, I am surprised.
Early Access = Unpaid Beta Test
Paid Beta Test :D We pay them...
At least it's not a "10 year pay to play an Alpha build", like star Citizen. LOL
Looks like Lakon needs to do a major recall.
Nah. Landing gear legs have a range of lengths they can extend to, so they can likely fix it with a simple firmware patch. Probably on a Thursday.
Somebody should talk to an Engineer, see if they can install a low rider suspension on the SRV. And some cool underglow lighting. Maybe some fuzzy dice for the cockpit.
Simple fix have the ship hike up on it's feet the same way the Asp X and Diamonback X do. God I can't believe they didn't account for this.
We need an SRV drop. [DEPLOY SRV AND DISMISS SHIP]
I very much want an on-foot "eject" option. For places you really want to visit, and are willing to eat a rebuy.
Dismissing the ship most likely will not work either, it has to re-land to pickup the SRV and when it does you're right back where you started from (maybe even worse off)
HOW THE HELL, has this not been tested by FDEV before coming out to public release. God I would be embarrassed if I was the developers to see this video...
Good testing department
What I do is recall the ship and drive under the bay.
Just put the letters A.I. on the side and everything, I mean everything will be better. Thanks for that, chuckalicious.
in a perfect world, srvs can be pulled up by hovering ships
so will there be a delay for releases for a fix ? if imm gonna be spending $$ arx on a ship it needs o be right
I hope they don't take the lazy fix approach like they have with the DBE and just have the ship float a meter above the surface after landing in order to facilitate SRV entry and exit. Check it, when disembarking on foot the ship is on the surface, when disembarking in SRV the ship floats. SMH
Wait is that why the dbx floats!? Hahaha oh my god that's so bad and lazy
Well that'll probably put the Kibosh on the buying of the Type 8 for a lot of players lol. Not well thought out on FDevs part if you ask me, but then again it is FDev after all.
Oh dear.. I knew that this ship was not "A True Lakon" just by the way it looks.. Oh well, on to the backburner you go, Type-8, maybe one day I will buy you.
Classic. The T8 looks sexy. Are they going to update some other ships while they're at it?
Don't tell me it's the radiator. Surely by now it has been addressed. The Killdozer made it to space. It needs a skin and body kit with the gray armor etc.
And I thought the Asp-X has issues in bad terrain...
The Cobra can also be notoriously tricky to shoehorn an SRV into/out of when landed on uneven terrain.
They had one job.
Geezuz it's like listening to an episode of Thomas the Tank Engine.
As with all FDev updates..... what can probably go wrong....
Hasn't there been a similar issue with some of the older ships' legs not extending far enough to accomodate an SRV? I think the DBX was one of them.
And apparently still not fixed. Well fixed by making it float a bit.
@@kudosbudo My DBX only floats when I want it to. But sometimes, the textures seem to follow a different geometry than the landscape.
Short legs and a bulging belly make quite a few things difficult.
Are we still talking about the Type-8?
Lakon are making just crap lately, I hear that the haul doors could cut your fingers, and the mileage is way less that announced
Funny enough, a week ago I was on a flight that was delayed 20 minutes due to a mechanical issue, and they had to wait for an engineer to fix it. It turned out that the issue was just a sharp metal edge on some panel in the area where the flight attendants sit. Okay, that's a relief that it's not something flight critical, and I'm fine with waiting a bit for the sake of crew safety, but the "fix" was that the engineer just put some duct tape on the sharp edge. Like, did that actually require an engineer??
what if they created a new srv to go with this ship? one that would be lower to the ground, slicker, perhaps a racing srv?
You mean the Scorpion?
@@Datan0de no, a new one
@@darthhunter69 Okay. I was just pointing out that the Scorpion basically meets the criteria you listed.
If there was ever an indication this is meant to exclusively trade at outposts I think this might be it haha
One of these days, Frontier will ACTUALLY PLAY THEIR OWN GAME.
Ya gotta give it more Willy
To my experience this doesn't seem to be a problem anymore, maybe they fixed it?
Wonder how the Scorpion SRV fits.
As a fellow test pilot, the scorpion seems to fit fine. No issues getting it stuck.
Leve it to frontier to miss the most obvious problems 😂
you can literally just drive to the sides or the front if you parked on a slight hill xD
well spotted well informed top banana !!
Three piles of bricks. Bwahahaha. Brilliant commentary
Shouldn't it just raise the landing gear higher like other ships do? Isn't this bugged?
That's hilarious!
No one reported this when playing?
AGAIN? Pilots of the DBX knew about that problem for ages. For fucks sake Lakon get your shit together, you building workhorses not luxury yachts.
Is the case the same with Scorpion SRV?
scorpion is lower clearance so should be easier... i'm hoping the final release remedies this cos' scorpion has no minerals scanner
@@thelionsam yes, but is it enough?
@@Neo-vz8nhYes. The Scorpion is unaffected by this issue.
@@Datan0de thanks
How do you F that up? How do you mess up a design for a new ship in an old game where you have lots of experience?
Lakon Engineering Team Lead must be fired. First, space spoilers. Now this...
Before that they had the T7... a trade ship with a foot print clearly designed for medium pads, but can't use them. They only possible reason being that it's slightly taller than any other medium ship (it's not the largest by length, width, or mass), and medium bays don't have the head room for it.
Looks like they did not test this, oh how very FDev of them!
This makes me want the ship even more now. Why? For the lulz!
Gotta love galnet❤
testing phase?
Oooh, time for a new tunnel boring SRV!
Jokes aside, why not have the SRV be able to drive out the side of the ship?
They didn't test this out before releasing it????????? 🤣🤣🤣
HAHAHAHAHAHA thats hilarious
10 years and i see Fdev is still the same incapable nonsense. just temporarily extend the legs, problem can be solved by a summer intern.but guess its too much of a challenge to them.
but the video is nicely made, actually feel like an actual news digest would do if this happened in real life.
Can't you just dismiss the ship? I mean, you'll never get the srv back into the ship either way lol
how's that "fatal", isn't she suppose to be a cargo ship? True, there is always that commander who uses FDL for exploration etc, but I don't think that warrants fatality
Haven't played ED for about a year but this video makes me think nothing much has changed.
For any other game, this would either be a day 1 fix or, even better, would never have escaped out of alpha.
For FDev, it's likely to be a permanent thing.
So, don't buy it ?