She didnt ask that charity's commisioner any hard hitting questions pr hold her accountable.... nor did she go after the REAL culprits, the Australian law makers who ALLOW this to happen on their doorstep
As a ex cult member of that "brides cult" Thank you for making documentaries about them. I lost a lot of friends because of that cult. I always regret the time and life i waste because of them. I pray to God they will crushed them to pieces. I pray for God's wrath will be fall upon them.
The Lord Bless you and keep you, may his face turn apon you and be gracious to you!! I love how the bible always referred to fruit, if you grew fruit for a way of life, when it is ripen, you take it to market. You WILL be laid accordingly to the amount of fruit you have and the quality of that fruit! So rejoice in times of your greatest weaknesses, that is the time the holy spirit will do the most through you! (See you on the the other side). God does wonderful and amazing things in the midst of tragedies, sleep well and let him work through you. :)
Me too. I regretted all the time wasted, thank goodness the cult i joined become too big and insanely perfectionist and anti sexual relationships "unless blessed" of course that i did not experience sexual assault at all. all the rest though I experience.. Sleep deprivation, food deprivation, extreme physical activities all to make your mind weak to keep you in their programming. total sacrifice of your life to dedicate yourself to "God" and the second coming of the messiah. I am positive that this JMS cult is inspired and copied the Unification Movement under Sun Myung Moon (deceased) they are know here in US as "Moonies" yeah and they're also the reason why I am here in US until today.
It will, beloved, it will. Don't regret the time wasted, it wasn't wasted. Your experience can also help other potential victims. Maybe go out and look for those who could be recruited into such cults and bring them to the True God? Or get in the way when you see such sects attempting to recruit someone? And perhaps it has brought you closer to the REAL Jesus than you would have been without it, by learning what he is NOT
When I was a kid we attended Jim Jones' church when he was still in Indiana, USA. I spent Christmas at his house. Later he moved off to California then on to Guyana where the congregation was murdered. He had a dark energy, as a kid I could sense it. Watch out who you call teacher, leader, master.
I was 1 year and 17 days old when the Jonestown massacre occurred. Many people believe Jim Jones acted alone but the women closest to JJ ensured his plan was completed. I still think about how people will join any type of religious group but will scoff at the manipulation and control of the people in Jonestown as being gullible fools. When a person signs over all critical thinking to an ideology... they place themselves and everyone around them in danger.
I really can't believe that people are still failing prey to this kind of victimization. It's mind-boggling. You would think that Jim Jones would have been the last satanic monster in the world to have ever gotten away with this level of mind control. This is beyond my understanding.
I have so much praise and respect for the Man who refused to give up even after he's own father getting attacked to bring this evil man to account. I hope the women can find peace.
And corrupt governments , cover up for the criminals ...and if they have ''laws'' against this crimes in place , they are too soft or just increased protections for the criminals...and is happening all over the world...
I still wonder if i put myself in those women shoes, I will not go to Korea. Why? Because the Bible says God is the only God and no one can replace Him.
@@kellywade8275Actually the father said he was grateful that it happened to him instead of his son, and when his son felt guilty and contemplated, his father knew his son was fighting for the right thing
Those poor women abused by this man who calls himself a 'messiah'. Because someone attaches the name 'Christian' to themselves does not mean they are. This man was merely a person who is a pervert, manipulator, abuser, liar, blasphemer and a thief to name but a few of his traits, who calls himself a Christian. I hope those who have fallen prey to this cult find justice and peace within themselves and go on to lead wonderful new lives.
Someone manipulating a person to do whatever will tell them and convince them they are what the victim wants them to be, and the manipulated person is being "saved" from something horrendous, and only the manipulator can so save them. If they have to label themselves "Christian" or "expert" or "authority", they'll use that. They'll flatter and threaten - using religion or pseudoscience or pseudo-legal rhetoric.
@@jpkkoreadokdoas she would have had every right to do as a victim. She will also testify in a court of law when required. You would never try to malign maple unless you were one of these sexual predators
Total respect, Amy and Liz. As a specialist trauma counsellor to survivors of torture and war trauma, I commend you on your resolute stance to stand up to this horrendous abuse of power. You are absolute warriors with clear minds, emotional strength (although we all have our bad days and meltdowns), and courage to stand up for yourselves and other young women. Bravo, you are my sheroes! 🏆💜
So proud of Amy and Liz for the strong, outspoken women they have become after all they've been through. To know that their willingness to share their very personal stories is helping other women get out of the cult and to be safe, is inspiring. Beautiful women inside and out!
Bwhahahahah they are passing the BUCK, BBC did something similar and blamed the Nigerians, very bad acting. THey are insulting religeous people. To push their devils cause. It is still a spiritual battle and the elites, including their media lap dogs are pushing this narrative. Dont believe what you see.
😂Every countries have these evangelicalism preachers people problems.They’re Tv Evangelicalism preachers using those names of all faiths of GODS to manipulating other people to doings their bitting..
Being a victim of domestic violence, ive learnt alot by watching this. How these women can tell their story with showing such clear understanding & strength & confidence in all they share/speak. Whilst I was a blabbing mess STILL questioning alot & confusing my story with what I'd been made/abused to believe, the police then started looking into what are they supposed to be looking into. Well done to these women sharing their stories without what they endured taking over!! 👏
Bwhahahahah they are passing the BUCK, BBC did something similar and blamed the Nigerians, very bad acting. THey are insulting religeous people. To push their devils cause. It is still a spiritual battle and the elites, including their media lap dogs are pushing this narrative. Dont believe what you see.
When I was younger I did not understand how people could "fall" for this, and then I spent 8years of my life with a toxic person. In a group you have friends with same interest and I know how much my few friends means to me, so this could easily have been me. So strong of these beautiful woman to speak out 💪❤️
I think being in a toxic relationship and in a cult is a bit different. When in toxic relationship, you more or less love the person, or have some good memories, family, children, or something in common. What can keep a person in cult except fear? Unless they like it.
@@Milen983 the community, the other people, religion, fear of what to do if they not are part of a bigger thing. I'm Norwegian so I cant explain it like I want to 🫣 but like a toxic relationship it starts with grooming and lovebombing and if you already are missing something it easy to latch on to a fantasy I think.
In USA it's not illegal if it happened more than 2 years ago. Statute of limitations. Makes you wonder who wrote these laws and what kind of leadership we have here. It's disgusting. In Pennsylvania the first state to remove the limitation, 14 Jehovah's Witness child sex abusers were incriminated in the first months after changing the law. They were all protected by their religion and by the law.
@@JoselitoCotto Update: He is no-show at the investigation of the Philippine Senate, so they are planning to arrest him. Also, the Vice president of the Philippines, announced her support of ACQ, since the Dutertes are a close acquaintance of Quiboloy (I mean Quibulok).
it seems our civilization is veering away from extreme punishment and leaning towards rehabilitation, only problem is that if you dont wanna be rehabilitated or cant be, which are the same thing imo, there is no use. while i believe in 2nd chances there are many cases where it isnt gonna work. its more important to figure this out than just short sentencing everyone and allowing them to reoffend over and over
It's infuriating when "officials" can't comment on things that are "in your face" and so obviously criminal, when they have no problem making comments when running for office.
Unfortunately almost similar thing is happening here in my country kenya,a cult that has claimed more than 300 lives and still counting through starvation -Shakahola starvation cult
Are Kenyan authorities bringing those responsible to trial? I'll look this up later as this is the first one heard about it.. So sad that people are this dispensable in the world today :(
As a young woman I had so many people coming up to me with modeling propositions. I am 100 percent sure some of the people were kidnappers. Thank God I didn't want attention from anyone. A lot of narcissist men think they're Christ.
My x girlfriend of mine told me that she went to3 or 4 modeling jobs and everyone was just a sleazy scam and they all started out as some big Time Hollywood insider who can make them famous and rich beyond their wildest dreams with a snap of his fingers. If she's a good girl?
Two beautiful courageous young ladies who had the strength to take back control of their own lives, that displays strength and courage. God bless you both, wishing you lots of joy and happiness in all that you do. Thank you for being so brave.
Please continue to post about all injustices and abuses that is happening around the world, it is raising awareness among the world. I really want this so called charity organization be shut down and this man locked up in jail for the rest of his life.
The Charities commissioner? To be fair, Australia has strict privacy laws, so she is probably legally bound to not comment, infuriating as it may seem. I am sure they will be looking into it now, but nothing ever seems to change unless its exposed by the media...
Poor Amy. She seemed ashamed or embarrassed when she told us they got her to quit her job. I feel for her so much. Very much like an abusive relationship… I hope her life just gets better and better from here.
I would be more embarrassed if I was the girl being fondled by that dude. She literally thought she was being blessed? I seriously want to laugh but this is so tragic.
so crazy to think that i was actually approached by two girls at chadstone shopping centre this year trying to recruit for this sick cult. they are so manipulative and sly, and slowly start talking about religion and even begin trying to change your thoughts if you’re not religious. i knew something bad was up as soon as they brought up religion after so many compliments!!
@@remingtonsteel5945maybe a good start if to rais etrhem atheists so they won't fall for any cult because all cults are based in blind belief in something that is not rational. If someone starts to bring religion way to many times without a context I just cut them asap from myself, if not for me then for my circle of friends and family.
Cringe aside; Kudos to Sarah for investigating this cult and help these victims. I love how she throws questions to the servants of JMS. What a brave and smart woman you are! Your passion to report crimes like these will help our world a better place. Thank you and hoping for your safety always. And to those brave victims for coming out, hands off to you. Sending you my prayers of justice, healing and peace.🙏
@@karenbricker4687 When people and families have no religion, the children will need a place to feel they 'belong' to. That is why these cults and others happen
@@tiff3253 Every group/religion where you rely on some leader to tell you how to live your life, what to think, how to vote, whom to fear or hate is effectively a cult. Having a community is good, but having a community that behaves like a school of sardines (mindlessly copying each other) is terrifying.
Hats off to all involved with the capture of a sick demented rapist.😮May God bless you. all...JMS is nothing like Jesus Christ. He is the devil himself to see who can devallure (sp). 😩 Be safe.❤
Korean have some many interracial marriage using religion as tools. Mostly white girls and Korean men. About 80% of all interracial marriage are through fraud. As an Asian man I disapprove of it. They only bring shame to everyone that looks like them. Asians should only marry Asians.
Well done Liz and Amy. Your work is very important. You know that. The issues are clear in your mind and I wholeheartedly agree with your perspectives. Good job so far.
So right. And the whole world of religion is all controlled based on fear one way or another at so many levels people feel it but they don't recognise it they make up all sorts of excuses to accept it. That's what I've noticed over years of searching for God, I don't go any religious places anymore, they're all corrupt, bible is twisted nonsense.
Like all sect's.. That thing th ey do when they followed the reporters around with cameras is straight out of the scientology playbook.. It's their no 2 tool against "deserters" or whatever they call them (-people who have been able to get out) & people who speak up against them in any way...
There are JMS churches in Uk Germany Slovenia France . In Europe they are also registered as charity and there are victims here too. No one did anything to protect those victims some believed them and left some simply denied everything and said they are lying . They are also using the benefit of tax free charity here in Europe
i'm getting convinced that all of these wacky religions are connected globally (but we ain't supposed to work that out) for human trafficking/organ trading and all the epstein-esk things girls of the 'me, me, ME' generation get flattered into. check out uk predator jimmy savile's autograph which is detailed to include the $ and £ sign.
The closest thing to a cult I’ve ever joined is a fraternity in college. Of course there was no worshiping of anything or an all powerful member, but many of the techniques are similar. The rituals, the symbolism, (like dying and being reborn) the rules , almost daily activities, the chants, the letters, weekly meetings where you’d be called out in front of the entire frat, sleep deprivation at times, being forced to live in the house, and of course excommunication. If someone quit, no matter the reason, we had to act like they were nonexistent. I basically quit slowly at the end of sophomore year without making a fuss bc I got tired of it taking up so much of my time. I didn’t have any issues in that regard bc I still attended parties and participated in rush while continuing paying dues. Sororities and fraternities are like cult-lite. I will say though it’s absolutely nothing about buying friends like so many non-Greeks say. Greek life opens many doors not only in college but afterwards too. It basically is a way to enter elite society. Why do you think so many presidents, politicians, and famous individuals join secret societies?
Yup, that’s why I refused to join when invited. I was originally interested because of the history of Black American sororities, but then I learned about hazing, and I was like “No chick is kicking my azz or making me touch her cooter.” (Disclaimer: IF that’s what they do. 🙄)
@@KamalasNotLikeUs the hazing wasn’t too bad at mine. It was mainly jokes. That said, I’ve heard horror stories from people in different fraternities/sororities. There was nothing that was degrading or illegal. Problem is it only takes one person to change the culture from then on our bc the pledge hazed will more than want to haze the next pledge class and beyond. It’s creates a vicious cycle where it gets worse and worse.
100% I also disaffiliated but a sorority. I was shunned and lost most of my friends. My college experience was pretty tainted by it and the things that went on and were accepted by the group. Many of them are still friends today and have a great network, live normal lives while I lost it all but it was well worth it to me. It truly grosses me out the things they turned a blind eye to.
WOW!!! Just wow... I am extremely disturbed by this cult!!! And the fact that it has not been taken down by the authorities is beyond any normal person's understanding. Kudos to this great reporting and the exposure of this evil organization. Keeping these two brave women in my prayers to find justice and peace. I have faith that everyone involved in this wickedness will be punished a thousand fold!!
The cult "sleeping" members always blindly defend their leaders, which is shocking and sad. I'm proud of those two brave women. Hope they'll have a wonderful life after all that.
WSow...only 2 minutes in and already know how WELL DONE this is going to be. Admire the thoroughness, dedication, and even risks your team takes to create these as well.
No-Not necessily. There may be right now many groups, organizations in the world which are allowed to be. Allowed to exist whilst the goverment is not aware of all the details about what they do. (Good or Bad). Many or most Goverments do not operate a policy to shoot dead any one else in the country not of the goverment. Therefore many people are allowed to exist whilst not being known about. That being said. That does not mean goverments do not have rules or laws against criminal actions. So first evidence of a crime has to be brought to the attention of the Goverment. Yes-Many Goverments may allow organisazions or may even support organisations. But that does not mean they allow criminal organisations to continue to do crimes. In our country we may have some 2 million organisations.
Yeah, it does. Because we have “freedom of beliefs”. But I can't freely express my thoughts about a cult. So much freedom. They also use police to harass you with outrageous claims. They even label you a “nazi” for calling them a cult and you get visit from police. This insanity is happening in EU country btw.
Wow! My daughter was almost in this mess when in college in Washingtot DC area....when they went to her apartment to look at her stuff was a warning and no one in church but females? I told her to leave it alone!!So glad she listened
I seen Dr. Steven Hassan talk this morning, his testimony as an ex member of the "moonie's" was so interesting and moved Me to tears. His work as a de-programmer is amazing and invaluable.
Australian charities commissioner seems on a roll with this criminal organization and useless. Its infuriating! My sympathies to all who suffered from this heinous crime. Keep talking and bring awareness to the world who perpetuate and supports this crime to flourish.😢😊
Lots of money involved, that’s why. She gets paid well. What profit is it for a person to gain the whole world (money, fame, job titles etc…) then to lose your soul. Hope she repents, and investigates!
I can't respond because of the heavy censorship! The real truth and honesty doesn't exist in America , especially when its against the churches or government!!!😢😮
Horrific for these victims who are so brave to speak out. Pure evil hiding in plain sight. All these victims of this pernicious cult or any cult deserve justice. Great reporting.
Brilliant Investigative Reporting! Thank you 7NEWS Spotlight for sharing this video. Australian Authorities should take this matter seriously regarding a so called religious and charity organization like Provenance & its leader and its branch based in Australia. The Australian Authorities should and must initiate prompt investigations! Once again thank you 7NEWS Spotlight! I will keep an eye out for any further developments from Papua New Guinea.
Perhaps if we were more cohesive within our societies, instead of being so ready to reject and show anger & hatred for people, groups who differ from "our" group, the young people wouldn't be so susceptible to predators who seem to offer them friendship, a place they feel they can belong.
I think there are people who will ALWAYS prey on t others and change as fast as we recognize them. We have to be more aware and more involved in our children’s lives and even that isn’t enough. They use ANYTHING to get in, and then spirit them away.
EXCEPT for groups like OMG (O'Keefe Media Group), led by BRAVE James O'Keefe, who originally founded PROJECT VERITAS, and did their great work for many years. When James's Investigative Reporters made BOMBSHELL interviews and EXPOSED Media and PFIZER "Bad Actors"... there were a select few "insider plants" on his Advisory Board who tried to SHUT HIM UP. Because of that, he LEFT THE COMPANY HE FOUNDED, started a NEW Company (OMG) and continues EXPOSING CRIMINALS in Media, Government, Corporations, Financial INVESTORS/Wall Street and Medical/Pharmaceutical Companies.
I do hope the Cult is investigated. It is so wonderful that 7News report provided this investigation and produced this video to bring awareness to this Cult. I sure hope the Law clamps down.
Spirituality is also dark, paganistic on many levels Destroys lives families and soul ultimately. People are groomed to practice new age, witchcraft in the name of freedom all to be addicted in it's lies and temporary relief. All who have ears let them hear.
When someone is telling you to pose and gyrate in a bathing suit, quit your job, leave your family, sleep on the floor and other outlandish and degrading things like that wouldn't that, at the least, tell you something's not right? I just can't understand this crap.
I don't understand this either. Though I summize they break them down both physically and mentally with brainwashing, sleep derivation and poor nutrition .. And by that time these girls won't know what's right or wrong anymore and just submit .. It's bizarre and very sad at the same time
Excellent documentary. Thank you for sharing it with us! "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" [Matthew 7:15]. "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? . . ." Matthew 7:16-20
In the the words of Ron L Hubbard : If want to make money start a religion. There are creeps like this in all societies no matter what colour or creed. It is up to the individual to follow or not.
"When a man hugs a woman it's so damn HARD" What a deviant creepy animal. No amount of prison time will be enough for this crazy man without complete castration.
This angers me like almost no other video has every done before. As a devout Christian, I am utterly abhorred by this abuse of our faith and the teachings. It’s almost unbelievable that this stuff actually happens and people fall for it and get so hurt. Judgement day is coming.
@@judyives1832 - I can see how *faith* in the twisted teachings and hive-mind-pressure can lead one to be so *devoted* that they lose their minds in the process. At the same time, proper faith in the correct teachings can be a blessing to one’s life, in my experience. In my view no one is without a religion of some sort, even the atheist. Since religion is merely a way or algorithm to live by, a worldview with a set of truths that one believes (or disbelieves) that underpin the way one behaves. We make up our “religion” as we go as we chose what to believe and disbelieve based on the input, experiences, and observations we make. So, I agree with you that religion can be harmful but disagree that it is always harmful nor do I agree that it is always anti-intellectual. Shalom.
Religion started to blind side the horrors of slavery. Therefore there is absolutely nothing meaningful about religion. It is all about brain washing and preying on gullible people.
thats why God says to KNOW HIM, not to be led astray. For the devil runs to and fro on earth, seeking whom he may devour. If you dont know the bible, then you are open to satan and his tricks, and lies. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against powers of this present darkness.. be not deceived... so many verses, thats why we need to hide them in our hearts....the roaring lion is running about.....
"would the messiah really do this?" hell no.. i pray for healing for these woman and ALL who are involved in this be treated according to their deeds........
Fascinating and chilling in equal measure. Superb reporting. Proper investigative journalism. So many men, women, girls & boys are sex trafficked. They have no voice except from journalism like this. Which is very brave. There are huge amounts of money & influence in these cults /trafficking rings. No doubt used to pay their way out of trouble. Keep reporting and bring brave, please. It matters. And keep safe. Thank you.💕
I was part of something I would describe as a religious cult. Nothing sexual. But, there was mental, spiritual, and other types of abuse. It is called YWAM (Youth With A Mission). I hope the victims can all find healing.
@@shumbushoamuza7849- It sounds such a truly delightful and joyful experience. (Could they not have squeezed it into 5 months.?! Or is that not a thing.)
I have a born-again Christian Korean friend who told me there are MANY cults in South Korea. There is a spiritual interest IN people there, but they don't have enough knowledge to discern what is good or true, or see who are liars. PRay for their nation to sift out the snakes from the lambs.
Spooked this cult is still v much thriving. And cudos to not only the brave people making this documentary but also every unknown person who stood for truth in the face of threats and bribes.👏🏼👏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you so much for the detailed investigation. My heart breaks for these young women. Here in the US, we have several so-called church cults - one now called the IBLP being investigated by numerous journalists for their practices. Scary world we live in that these cults pray on the vulnerable.
One of the worst cults in America is the cult of trump, who like him are misogynistic sexual abusers, if not in fact then certainly in approval. Except they just don't want to enrich the leader and harm women and girls.. although they really want to do all of that, for sure. But they also want to destroy America, and the entire free world if they can
@andrearussell9755 I've noticed that relatively new countries, such as the U.S.A. and Australia, are very susceptible to cults. All appear to start with one man. Scientology, IBLP, Mormonism, etc. They all have one red flag in common, total control. Their thirst for money also emerges. They break up families, not wanting anybody to help victims escape. I found this viseo so disturbing, I nearly stopped watching.
Religions have prayed on the vulnerable for thousands of years; it's not new or just with these smaller cults. But yes, these investigators are doing good work, ; it is dangerous to just let the cults thrive in relative anonymity.
It's frightening how some human beings with twisted, psychopathic brains can find individuals who are susceptible to being drawn into extremely controlling, cultish societies to serve those leader's self serving wants.
I think back to my 18 or 20, or even 30 y/o self and think of how vulnerable I would have been to any such cult that came to me with just the right speal. I'd have fallen hook, line, and sinker because I would have so wanted it to be true. I was in some bad places, and a cult could have offered me a way out - but it would have been far worse!
...and the victims are always well educated...and I loose faith in ''education systems'' when girls and boys are just striving to be ''popular'' in school ...and reject the stern ''talk'' of the father about evil in the world..
If you are sheltered in a home filled with love, respect, and truthfulness, you become vulnerable. When I went out into the world at 18, I was very naive and trusting. It took a long time to realize what a warped and dishonest world we live in. I'm 70 now and remember how easy it was to be led astray at that age.
Cults, number 1, are NEVER going to admit they're a cult. And number 2, hook people through all sorts of innocent sounding activities. If someone invites you to a informal bible study, or "free" lunch and lecture, or "free" introductory class, watch out...
Thank you. This is what all media should do - all the time. After watching many ex-scientologists speak out, there is just so much that all cults share. Even though I am religious, I believe all religious organizations and "charities" should pay their darn taxes.
As a Christian, this story makes me very very angry. Now imagine witnessing to those women about Jesus or anyone who was hold up in that cult. It's an impossibility. Cult leaders really damage a person's heart and true belief system.
@@jussmith2076 Christianity has a much firmer base in reality than you would like to believe. In my experience, it is atheists who are much more gullible to believe anything, as long as it discredits Christianity.
@mandlas.4305 Luckilly, it is not our job to convince anyone, only to testify. It is the Holy Spirit that convinces people, and if He could convince Paul, He can convince them too.
Paul was the first Christian cult leader. If there is a real god and it could appear to Paul, then why has it not communicated in any kind of real way since? Why has it not corrected some of the terrible misogyny, racism, pro slavery ideas in its “book”? If you actually read what Paul wrote and still think he is a representative of a good god, then there is something very wrong with your moral compass.
@@judyives1832 - who are you to say your moral compass is pointing in the right direction? How do you ground your beliefs about that in and as truth? Don’t you just decide on your own without any real warrant, just opinion?
This is one good reason why higher education needs to be available to everyone (for the critical thinking, propaganda, persuasion, rhetoric, etc classes)
I just don't understand how women send bikini photos to their "pastor"-and don't see that as a red flag? I guess I'm smarter than the average bear but the first time ANYONE in a church (that apparently only allows women to join) asks me to strip down and start taking pictures, I'm going to figure out that something isn't right with this picture.. I'm trying so hard to watch this with an open mind and none of these women deserved any of what happened to them but come on... Seriously? It didn't occur to any of these women - and apparently still hasn't- that this isn't what a loving caring God would want for their lives?
It certainly briefly occurred to them that it's bizarre, but at that point, they were already far in the grooming process. It has nothing to do with intelligence. The biggest flaws as individuals are emotional, not intellectual. Moreover, humans are very social creatures and at first, every cults don't seem like one, but more like a welcoming/like-minded/accepting community. Cults leaders/recruiters will not prey on people based on their IQ, but rather on those seeking for a purpose in life and/or with low self-esteem and/or unmet emotional needs (and these vulnerabilities can happen to anyone at some point in their life regardless of how smart, average or dumb they are). In fact, being smart can work against a victim, because it helps them to think they are too smart to fall for a cult, thus more likely to "rationalize" the first mild red flags in order to keep the "feel good" emotional benefits their new friends/group bring them. Leaders/recruiters of successful cults are masters at grooming their victims, with manipulation techniques adapted to each individual, to gradually increase their indoctrination until their critical thinking skills are all tangled up and biased (making them docile and loyal followers) and it's virtually impossible to back out easily and/or safely. I hope this perspective helped you understand better.
demons, unclean and deceiving spirits working through these pervert leaders. that is what causes them to have charisma and influence over thousands and even millions of people.
99% of all brick and mortar "churches" are preaching some level of heretical doctrine, many out of heretical Bibles. The worst are one's like this. Catholicism is the ultimate worst that has the most widespread influence.
Having a sister who is a psychopath, your biggest regret when you finally realize it is that you “helped” them and didn’t confront their abuse. Educate yourselves on psychopaths. Google the PCL-R by Dr. Robert Hare.
I have a cousin like that. She’s burned her family out. She changed her name , making excuses for her cruel petty crime being reported in the paper; but everyone knows her face -and the bullshit she pulls. If you come from a large family; dont come back to the area and think a change of name; deflects from that familiar face. No matter how pathetic she tries to appear now; we know the drill. It’s an act to make you feel sorry for her .
My one of uncle’s got murdered by cult community in Korea. I don’t remember exactly which cult it was coz i was only3, My family and relatives are all Christian and the uncle got into cult around 1997-1998 and my mom found out and told him not to go to that church and he accepted and got missing and the police found out his body in the middle of no where in the mountain. Couldn’t find the killer. No one was allowed to mention about him in the family because my mom got really upset and emotional. She still thinks she couldn’t protect him 😢 I really want to know the truth but I don’t want to remind my mom 😢
I don't understand why that lady can't say whether or not they are investigating a "charity/church" that has complaints of sexual abuse. Is there an Australian law that exempts charities/cults/churches from being investigated even if there are reports of sexual assault documented in reports to law enforcement? I'm from the US so I don't know Australian law but reports of crimes usually develops into an open investigation here in the US like Waco, Jonestown, the Polygamist FLDS, Heaven's Gate, NXIVM, etc. Simply not being able to talk about whether they are investigating or not is so odd.
Probably because cults protect cults. It's all based on the same idea evil fear and they dig the dirt on each other, they don't want to be exposed. That's what I think.
Need to read between the lines She cannot by law speak out if there is an investigation going on so that answers the question that they are investigating
What a coward that charity commissoner has shown herself to be! Gosh, why are these people in this kind of position when they are often complicit in crimes such as this. Shame on her n the organisation that employs her.
This cult operates out of New York as well. I was walking down the streets of NY City one afternoon in January 2020 and was approached by a girl who asked if I would be interested to join a bible study. I said yes and went with her. She took me to a building which looked like a normal space where there were tables and chairs as if it were a real study area and she gave me a bible and had a bible for herself and started telling me that before we were born we were all living in spirit and once we die we will be in spirit again and that this guy was the actual messiah and we must worship him. That was when my spiritual alarm went off and I confronted her with the Bible verses that contradicted what she said. She got upset and said that I can leave if I don’t believe in what she says. I said I will leave and asked if I could use the restroom before leaving, she said yes. I sprinted out after I had used the restroom. There was another lady who was also brought in like me and she had a puzzled look on her face too.
No person should be your leader, master or lord. Hierarchies are inherently evil. Once a person accepts this dynamic they’ve placed themselves in harms way. It’s these type of people who attract psychopaths unfortunately which is why we should teach children how to think critically, question themselves and everyone around them. Teach them how to self govern so they don’t look to others for guidance or value.
Incorrect. Hierarchies are necessary for order. Can it be corrupted by maniacs? Yes obviously, but the idea when done correctly is perfectly sound Most people don't have the capacity to self-govern whatsoever, they want and need to be told what to do. You're better off building a good hierarchy then cutting people lose, because maniacs will cast out their net and end up catching them anyway, which is exactly what happened here
@@Dre2Dee2Humans call hierarchy God calls the pecking order and chain of command. Humans worship which is idolatry which is forbidden to worship man. It reads in the buy-bull buy-Baal oops I meant to say bible mind control psyop that man is inherently wicked that's been proven however, these mind control psyops are to divide and conquer making them easier to defeat. The ones pulling the strings are acting having their strings pulled allowing them to think they're in control. Anyone abusing power loses it, their title, their name, their timeline, their books. Keeps one humble and obedient to the ten commandments knowing God giveth God taketh away. They say the president is a cardboard cutout who's the man behind the man behind the man behind the man all the way up the chain of command. How was your stay on earth school? Ready for the Apocalypse the ascension process? In the end everyone gets on their knees but it didn't say why they get on their knees. With 97 being disinformation how do we know this even exists? If 97 percent of this earth school experiment is a lie how do we know we know something? Following a human could lead you into the bowels of hell on the wide path. I'll stick with Big G and avoid these psyops these cults that end up with koolaid and body bags. I'm pretty sure the infinite would never actually do these things. But see which part of God's creation is willing to do such things in order to know where we end up when crossing over. Quite the path to new earth.
May God Bless and heal the victims of this cult. I wonder what these teenagers parents thought about this? This cult is as vicious as Scientology! Both are extremely dangerous for crimes against humanity!
@@gowdsake7103 He created the heavens and the earth. No, christianity hasn't. People who claim the be christians has. It's a difference. They pretend to follow Christ but they don't follow the Bible at all.
I love the reporters major effort and commitment to get this criminals behind the bar,good work sister,and to the victims keep strong and continue to defend your rights
People are so gullible. That is how religion makes fools of them. They think having faith is a good thing. They think believing is of some value. Knowing is better than believing. Knowledge has to be evidence based. If you believe things for which there is not sufficient evidence, you are in danger of being tricked.
This is going on everywhere on the planet. Even worse children are recruited and trafficked in the same manner. This world is full of insane people. And this people should be removed from the planet asap
It must feel good to be a reporter who really makes a difference in the world, well done, hope the girls get justice!
She didnt ask that charity's commisioner any hard hitting questions pr hold her accountable....
nor did she go after the REAL culprits, the Australian law makers who ALLOW this to happen on their doorstep
These poor girls they got in their heads when they used love and friendship and feeling accepted they were so young that was the first head trick.
Remember you May loose your souls✝️😭
Witchcraft 😭😳
God Is Spirit Not a Pediphil
I love Australian journalism. They go in HARD on obvious criminals.
I have almost mirrored this comment. Australia make great documentaries.
DW german channel makes good stuff to! They have a lot of free documentaries (here on YT) about topics you don't see/hear anywhere else.. 😊
@@ingridakerblom7577love that channel!
they must hug really tight
America used to have journalists like that but now it’s all about money and power.
As a ex cult member of that "brides cult" Thank you for making documentaries about them. I lost a lot of friends because of that cult. I always regret the time and life i waste because of them. I pray to God they will crushed them to pieces. I pray for God's wrath will be fall upon them.
I'm thankful YOU still believe in GOD and have not given up Faith- due to flawed sick twisted individuals.
Ephesians 6:10-18 :)
Shalom.
The Lord Bless you and keep you, may his face turn apon you and be gracious to you!!
I love how the bible always referred to fruit, if you grew fruit for a way of life, when it is ripen, you take it to market. You WILL be laid accordingly to the amount of fruit you have and the quality of that fruit! So rejoice in times of your greatest weaknesses, that is the time the holy spirit will do the most through you! (See you on the the other side). God does wonderful and amazing things in the midst of tragedies, sleep well and let him work through you. :)
Me too. I regretted all the time wasted, thank goodness the cult i joined become too big and insanely perfectionist and anti sexual relationships "unless blessed" of course that i did not experience sexual assault at all. all the rest though I experience.. Sleep deprivation, food deprivation, extreme physical activities all to make your mind weak to keep you in their programming. total sacrifice of your life to dedicate yourself to "God" and the second coming of the messiah. I am positive that this JMS cult is inspired and copied the Unification Movement under Sun Myung Moon (deceased) they are know here in US as "Moonies" yeah and they're also the reason why I am here in US until today.
It will, beloved, it will. Don't regret the time wasted, it wasn't wasted. Your experience can also help other potential victims. Maybe go out and look for those who could be recruited into such cults and bring them to the True God? Or get in the way when you see such sects attempting to recruit someone? And perhaps it has brought you closer to the REAL Jesus than you would have been without it, by learning what he is NOT
@@irhael8003 wow, you and I think alike! ;)
When I was a kid we attended Jim Jones' church when he was still in Indiana, USA. I spent Christmas at his house. Later he moved off to California then on to Guyana where the congregation was murdered. He had a dark energy, as a kid I could sense it. Watch out who you call teacher, leader, master.
I was 1 year and 17 days old when the Jonestown massacre occurred. Many people believe Jim Jones acted alone but the women closest to JJ ensured his plan was completed.
I still think about how people will join any type of religious group but will scoff at the manipulation and control of the people in Jonestown as being gullible fools.
When a person signs over all critical thinking to an ideology... they place themselves and everyone around them in danger.
I really can't believe that people are still failing prey to this kind of victimization. It's mind-boggling. You would think that Jim Jones would have been the last satanic monster in the world to have ever gotten away with this level of mind control. This is beyond my understanding.
But you are alive and well....😮 Did you get anything out of it.
@@MarianoPedraza-m2h Most likely an early BS meter! A healthy fear of any religion that has lead this person away from crackpots and pyramid schemes!
That guy was a drug addict, right? Most likely this one too.
I have so much praise and respect for the Man who refused to give up even after he's own father getting attacked to bring this evil man to account. I hope the women can find peace.
And corrupt governments , cover up for the criminals ...and if they have ''laws'' against this crimes in place , they are too soft or just increased protections for the criminals...and is happening all over the world...
I'm sure his father wasn't happy about it.
I still wonder if i put myself in those women shoes, I will not go to Korea. Why? Because the Bible says God is the only God and no one can replace Him.
@@kellywade8275Actually the father said he was grateful that it happened to him instead of his son, and when his son felt guilty and contemplated, his father knew his son was fighting for the right thing
@@hodalshammari Uh, I know that but an elderly man got beat to a pulp and could've had an unnecessary, earlier death . Who is showing concern for him?
This video should be shown in all schools.
i concur
Those poor women abused by this man who calls himself a 'messiah'. Because someone attaches the name 'Christian' to themselves does not mean they are. This man was merely a person who is a pervert, manipulator, abuser, liar, blasphemer and a thief to name but a few of his traits, who calls himself a Christian. I hope those who have fallen prey to this cult find justice and peace within themselves and go on to lead wonderful new lives.
Someone manipulating a person to do whatever will tell them and convince them they are what the victim wants them to be, and the manipulated person is being "saved" from something horrendous, and only the manipulator can so save them. If they have to label themselves "Christian" or "expert" or "authority", they'll use that. They'll flatter and threaten - using religion or pseudoscience or pseudo-legal rhetoric.
Funny that he claims to be a christian but goes against the Bible.
Well said. I agree.
Maple is a strong woman. Putting that tape out there for the whole world to hear has got to be incredibly difficult. She’s brave and smart.
홍콩 메~플과 호주 프란~스카는 김~형의 금전유혹에 넷플릭스와 거래하고 jms와 정명석총재님을 성범죄자로 매도하고 우리를 사이비로 몰았습니다.
돈이 눈 먼 야시들같으니..
프란체스카도 거짓말입니다
Smart?! She’s the exact opposite of smart, she’s the dumbest of humans, obviously!
@@jpkkoreadokdo국제 망신좀 그만 시키길~~
@@jpkkoreadokdoas she would have had every right to do as a victim.
She will also testify in a court of law when required.
You would never try to malign maple unless you were one of these sexual predators
Total respect, Amy and Liz. As a specialist trauma counsellor to survivors of torture and war trauma, I commend you on your resolute stance to stand up to this horrendous abuse of power. You are absolute warriors with clear minds, emotional strength (although we all have our bad days and meltdowns), and courage to stand up for yourselves and other young women. Bravo, you are my sheroes! 🏆💜
Sheroes. I love this!!❤
@@jackiwheeler6963 IK,R?!!!
@emeraldheart415 those women are beyond brave! Praying for them
So proud of Amy and Liz for the strong, outspoken women they have become after all they've been through. To know that their willingness to share their very personal stories is helping other women get out of the cult and to be safe, is inspiring. Beautiful women inside and out!
Don't forget Maple also. Those women who left the cult are fearless to reveal the truth.
She is in another cult sheesh
Bwhahahahah they are passing the BUCK, BBC did something similar and blamed the Nigerians, very bad acting. THey are insulting religeous people. To push their devils cause. It is still a spiritual battle and the elites, including their media lap dogs are pushing this narrative. Dont believe what you see.
Whoever registered this as a charity belongs in prison...
Or government
@@arongilbert5828 not my government
I'm in America. Our entire government belongs in prison.
@@arongilbert5828 ya,, not all of them but you are right....big issues
😂Every countries have these evangelicalism preachers people problems.They’re Tv Evangelicalism preachers using those names of all faiths of GODS to manipulating other people to doings their bitting..
Being a victim of domestic violence, ive learnt alot by watching this. How these women can tell their story with showing such clear understanding & strength & confidence in all they share/speak. Whilst I was a blabbing mess STILL questioning alot & confusing my story with what I'd been made/abused to believe, the police then started looking into what are they supposed to be looking into. Well done to these women sharing their stories without what they endured taking over!! 👏
❤️🔥🙏🙏🙏❤️🔥
yeah Im so glad they get to enjoy the celebrity of this harrowing story
They're certainly enjoying every second of it
Bwhahahahah they are passing the BUCK, BBC did something similar and blamed the Nigerians, very bad acting. THey are insulting religeous people. To push their devils cause. It is still a spiritual battle and the elites, including their media lap dogs are pushing this narrative. Dont believe what you see.
When I was younger I did not understand how people could "fall" for this, and then I spent 8years of my life with a toxic person. In a group you have friends with same interest and I know how much my few friends means to me, so this could easily have been me. So strong of these beautiful woman to speak out 💪❤️
I think being in a toxic relationship and in a cult is a bit different. When in toxic relationship, you more or less love the person, or have some good memories, family, children, or something in common. What can keep a person in cult except fear? Unless they like it.
@@Milen983 the community, the other people, religion, fear of what to do if they not are part of a bigger thing. I'm Norwegian so I cant explain it like I want to 🫣 but like a toxic relationship it starts with grooming and lovebombing and if you already are missing something it easy to latch on to a fantasy I think.
Me too, when I was younger and when I’m adult... I don’t understand how people can be there, been abused , controlled!
@@Milen983not much difference between them.
@@Milen983 Isn't both in fear
10 years for violating a woman? Here in the Philippines, this is lifetime in jail!
In USA it's not illegal if it happened more than 2 years ago. Statute of limitations. Makes you wonder who wrote these laws and what kind of leadership we have here. It's disgusting. In Pennsylvania the first state to remove the limitation, 14 Jehovah's Witness child sex abusers were incriminated in the first months after changing the law. They were all protected by their religion and by the law.
We had here in the Phil's just like that😂😂.in the person of pastor Apollo Pukiboloy😂😂
@@JoselitoCotto Update: He is no-show at the investigation of the Philippine Senate, so they are planning to arrest him. Also, the Vice president of the Philippines, announced her support of ACQ, since the Dutertes are a close acquaintance of Quiboloy (I mean Quibulok).
Not if you're a cult leader like Apollo Quiboloy!
it seems our civilization is veering away from extreme punishment and leaning towards rehabilitation, only problem is that if you dont wanna be rehabilitated or cant be, which are the same thing imo, there is no use. while i believe in 2nd chances there are many cases where it isnt gonna work. its more important to figure this out than just short sentencing everyone and allowing them to reoffend over and over
It's infuriating when "officials" can't comment on things that are "in your face" and so obviously criminal, when they have no problem making comments when running for office.
I didn't think there were that many vulnerable and naive women in Australia. This rapist needs to go back to jail forever!
Unfortunately almost similar thing is happening here in my country kenya,a cult that has claimed more than 300 lives and still counting through starvation -Shakahola starvation cult
We have loads of cults here in the US and, mostly, they’re allowed to exist. I don’t understand at all.
My heart cries out...only if we had great investigators like these...but ours are controlled by people in high offices unfortunately
Ats horrible. Someone needs to tell the local media to stop that.
Are Kenyan authorities bringing those responsible to trial? I'll look this up later as this is the first one heard about it.. So sad that people are this dispensable in the world today :(
Yeah I watched a documentary about it.. It's insane😢
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15
Call cult plus time equals religion
As a young woman I had so many people coming up to me with modeling propositions. I am 100 percent sure some of the people were kidnappers. Thank God I didn't want attention from anyone. A lot of narcissist men think they're Christ.
My friend was trafficked in the uk to Spain like this
You had a lucky escape
Young women are so gullible and have no sense. They are so easily led astray because they think they're so beautiful.
My x girlfriend of mine told me that she went to3 or 4 modeling jobs and everyone was just a sleazy scam and they all started out as some big Time Hollywood insider who can make them famous and rich beyond their wildest dreams with a snap of his fingers. If she's a good girl?
What about the women. All of these men couldn't do this without women
@@orangeroughy8377Amen!
Two beautiful courageous young ladies who had the strength to take back control of their own
lives, that displays strength and courage.
God bless you both, wishing you lots of joy and happiness in all that you do. Thank you for being so brave.
Please continue to post about all injustices and abuses that is happening around the world, it is raising awareness among the world. I really want this so called charity organization be shut down and this man locked up in jail for the rest of his life.
That Commissioner, what a brat! She is willingly encouraging those disgusting crimes to perpetuate. Sick people... 💩😤
She's a paper--pusher unwilling to confront Providence's negative aspects and its perverted leader. 😝
The Charities commissioner? To be fair, Australia has strict privacy laws, so she is probably legally bound to not comment, infuriating as it may seem. I am sure they will be looking into it now, but nothing ever seems to change unless its exposed by the media...
@@Mantarr1 Yes, and I'm pretty sure if she was to comment, that would cause problems if the government wanted to press charges.
Poor Amy. She seemed ashamed or embarrassed when she told us they got her to quit her job. I feel for her so much. Very much like an abusive relationship… I hope her life just gets better and better from here.
I would be more embarrassed if I was the girl being fondled by that dude. She literally thought she was being blessed? I seriously want to laugh but this is so tragic.
so crazy to think that i was actually approached by two girls at chadstone shopping centre this year trying to recruit for this sick cult. they are so manipulative and sly, and slowly start talking about religion and even begin trying to change your thoughts if you’re not religious. i knew something bad was up as soon as they brought up religion after so many compliments!!
Parents needs to warn their kids about such things that can happen in real life .
WILL THEY LISTEN...?....NO !...
@@remingtonsteel5945maybe a good start if to rais etrhem atheists so they won't fall for any cult because all cults are based in blind belief in something that is not rational. If someone starts to bring religion way to many times without a context I just cut them asap from myself, if not for me then for my circle of friends and family.
@@LifeInPink999Jesus love ❤️ you
If your parents are religious, it’s impossible.
@@BigboroWhich one? The Korean one, the hippie one, or the African one?
Cringe aside;
Kudos to Sarah for investigating this cult and help these victims. I love how she throws questions to the servants of JMS. What a brave and smart woman you are! Your passion to report crimes like these will help our world a better place. Thank you and hoping for your safety always.
And to those brave victims for coming out, hands off to you. Sending you my prayers of justice, healing and peace.🙏
Wow. So glad that he was caught but these people never give up.
@@karenbricker4687 When people and families have no religion, the children will need a place to feel they 'belong' to. That is why these cults and others happen
@@tiff3253
Every group/religion where you rely on some leader to tell you how to live your life, what to think, how to vote, whom to fear or hate is effectively a cult.
Having a community is good, but having a community that behaves like a school of sardines (mindlessly copying each other) is terrifying.
Hats off to all involved with the capture of a sick demented rapist.😮May God bless you. all...JMS is nothing like Jesus Christ. He is the devil himself to see who can devallure (sp). 😩 Be safe.❤
Korean have some many interracial marriage using religion as tools. Mostly white girls and Korean men. About 80% of all interracial marriage are through fraud. As an Asian man I disapprove of it. They only bring shame to everyone that looks like them. Asians should only marry Asians.
Well done Liz and Amy. Your work is very important. You know that. The issues are clear in your mind and I wholeheartedly agree with your perspectives. Good job so far.
well done Maple for exposing that sick jerk! You are such a strong woman
Agree… she’s an amazing courageous woman.
You’re throwing stones. Are you sure you’re not living in a “glass house?”
Excellent investigative work. Tks to the two girls who are speaking out. Keep fighting !!!❤
The idea that someone could be terrorized by a text or phone call is both ridiculous and hilarious.
BOO!😱
@@Cleatus546 exactly
WATCH OUT!
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Yes
They sound a lot like scientologists... "Do what we say and stop speaking out against us or we'll ruin your life."
So right. And the whole world of religion is all controlled based on fear one way or another at so many levels people feel it but they don't recognise it they make up all sorts of excuses to accept it. That's what I've noticed over years of searching for God, I don't go any religious places anymore, they're all corrupt, bible is twisted nonsense.
Like all sect's.. That thing th ey do when they followed the reporters around with cameras is straight out of the scientology playbook..
It's their no 2 tool against "deserters" or whatever they call them (-people who have been able to get out) & people who speak up against them in any way...
Shitology is a very dangerous and abusive cult! And yet, they remain tax exempt?!?! This needs to STOP!
@@ingridakerblom7577and of course Scientology roads lead back to Crowley, as does Kinsey, Hugh Hefner, Kenneth Anger, and post modernist pop culture.
Also Amish, LDS.
There are JMS churches in Uk
Germany Slovenia France . In Europe they are also registered as charity and there are victims here too. No one did anything to protect those victims some believed them and left some simply denied everything and said they are lying . They are also using the benefit of tax free charity here in Europe
@Julia-n7zm That is really disturbing. I would love to know where the British branch is. It needs to be reported to the authorities.
London and Cambridge
Where in Slovenia?
Liubliana
i'm getting convinced that all of these wacky religions are connected globally (but we ain't supposed to work that out) for human trafficking/organ trading and all the epstein-esk things girls of the 'me, me, ME' generation get flattered into. check out uk predator jimmy savile's autograph which is detailed to include the $ and £ sign.
Im so sorry for the father of the professor who was attacked. Thank you for helping these women sir ❤
I have always said, "If you want to get rich, start a Cult, religion or a charity, preferably a combination of all 3'.
That's why a lot of people do it. It's easy to do too.
That kind of cult leader need to be severely punished. No one should ever get to the damaging painful truth of that evil man has done to their lives.
The closest thing to a cult I’ve ever joined is a fraternity in college. Of course there was no worshiping of anything or an all powerful member, but many of the techniques are similar. The rituals, the symbolism, (like dying and being reborn) the rules , almost daily activities, the chants, the letters, weekly meetings where you’d be called out in front of the entire frat, sleep deprivation at times, being forced to live in the house, and of course excommunication. If someone quit, no matter the reason, we had to act like they were nonexistent. I basically quit slowly at the end of sophomore year without making a fuss bc I got tired of it taking up so much of my time. I didn’t have any issues in that regard bc I still attended parties and participated in rush while continuing paying dues. Sororities and fraternities are like cult-lite. I will say though it’s absolutely nothing about buying friends like so many non-Greeks say. Greek life opens many doors not only in college but afterwards too. It basically is a way to enter elite society. Why do you think so many presidents, politicians, and famous individuals join secret societies?
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Yup, that’s why I refused to join when invited. I was originally interested because of the history of Black American sororities, but then I learned about hazing, and I was like “No chick is kicking my azz or making me touch her cooter.” (Disclaimer: IF that’s what they do. 🙄)
That's crazy 😧
@@KamalasNotLikeUs the hazing wasn’t too bad at mine. It was mainly jokes. That said, I’ve heard horror stories from people in different fraternities/sororities. There was nothing that was degrading or illegal. Problem is it only takes one person to change the culture from then on our bc the pledge hazed will more than want to haze the next pledge class and beyond. It’s creates a vicious cycle where it gets worse and worse.
100% I also disaffiliated but a sorority. I was shunned and lost most of my friends. My college experience was pretty tainted by it and the things that went on and were accepted by the group. Many of them are still friends today and have a great network, live normal lives while I lost it all but it was well worth it to me. It truly grosses me out the things they turned a blind eye to.
WOW!!! Just wow... I am extremely disturbed by this cult!!! And the fact that it has not been taken down by the authorities is beyond any normal person's understanding. Kudos to this great reporting and the exposure of this evil organization. Keeping these two brave women in my prayers to find justice and peace. I have faith that everyone involved in this wickedness will be punished a thousand fold!!
The cult is paying off the authorities.
Only weak people join cults
Amen. Me too. They won't get away with it forever. God will not be mocked or lied about!!
Yes punishment a hundred fold...locked in hell
It is like a drug if people want it they can't take it all away.
Government is involved
The cult "sleeping" members always blindly defend their leaders, which is shocking and sad. I'm proud of those two brave women. Hope they'll have a wonderful life after all that.
There was Quibuloy Cult in the Philippines!.
Oh my goodnes brain wash he sleep wit This beutiful Women That U Thing true 😢
Because they are bewitched. God said there will be false preacher who will claim to be the Christ.
🙇♀️👏Thanks for covering this.. There’s definitely so much to learns around the world..🙏
WSow...only 2 minutes in and already know how WELL DONE this is going to be. Admire the thoroughness, dedication, and even risks your team takes to create these as well.
If this organization existed in your area, that means your government allows it.
No-Not necessily. There may be right now many groups, organizations in the world which are allowed to be. Allowed to exist whilst the goverment is not aware of all the details about what they do. (Good or Bad). Many or most Goverments do not operate a policy to shoot dead any one else in the country not of the goverment. Therefore many people are allowed to exist whilst not being known about. That being said. That does not mean goverments do not have rules or laws against criminal actions. So first evidence of a crime has to be brought to the attention of the Goverment. Yes-Many Goverments may allow organisazions or may even support organisations. But that does not mean they allow criminal organisations to continue to do crimes. In our country we may have some 2 million organisations.
Yeah, it does. Because we have “freedom of beliefs”. But I can't freely express my thoughts about a cult. So much freedom. They also use police to harass you with outrageous claims. They even label you a “nazi” for calling them a cult and you get visit from police. This insanity is happening in EU country btw.
Wow! My daughter was almost in this mess when in college in Washingtot DC area....when they went to her apartment to look at her stuff was a warning and no one in church but females? I told her to leave it alone!!So glad she listened
I seen Dr. Steven Hassan talk this morning, his testimony as an ex member of the "moonie's" was so interesting and moved Me to tears. His work as a de-programmer is amazing and invaluable.
“I seen”????? Fix it, JSM!
Charity commissioner didn’t seem to be interested. What is wrong with them. Sickening.
Australian charities commissioner seems on a roll with this criminal organization and useless. Its infuriating!
My sympathies to all who suffered from this heinous crime. Keep talking and bring awareness to the world who perpetuate and supports this crime to flourish.😢😊
Lots of money involved, that’s why. She gets paid well. What profit is it for a person to gain the whole world (money, fame, job titles etc…) then to lose your soul. Hope she repents, and investigates!
What is wrong with these governments?! I hate how “churches” are protected under these “charity” laws. It’s sick and I hope the leader burns in hell.
AMEN!!!!😮😮😢
I can't respond because of the heavy censorship! The real truth and honesty doesn't exist in America , especially when its against the churches or government!!!😢😮
ALL churches should pay tax
JMS might still be physically alive but I’m sure that his soul is already burning in hell and will be burning there for all eternity!
Horrific for these victims who are so brave to speak out. Pure evil hiding in plain sight. All these victims of this pernicious cult or any cult deserve justice. Great reporting.
Eh, they volunteered to participate with these loonys !!!!
@@adambane1719because they are indoctrinated.
Let's say they were deceived. Ever so subtlety and gently into the fold. Repetitively and relentlessly w/ precission and Targeted w/ malintent.
Just as viciously and pernicious as the Q°©øn, Trumb "Cult" in the States.
@@adambane1719. I am wondering too..how are they victims exactly?
There's no such thing as purity within evil...it's just evil...I will never glorify evil with any sort of purity
Brilliant Investigative Reporting! Thank you 7NEWS Spotlight for sharing this video.
Australian Authorities should take this matter seriously regarding a so called religious and charity organization like Provenance & its leader and its branch based in Australia. The Australian Authorities should and must initiate prompt investigations!
Once again thank you 7NEWS Spotlight! I will keep an eye out for any further developments from Papua New Guinea.
Perhaps if we were more cohesive within our societies, instead of being so ready to reject and show anger & hatred for people, groups who differ from "our" group, the young people wouldn't be so susceptible to predators who seem to offer them friendship, a place they feel they can belong.
Well said!
That's true.
I think there are people who will ALWAYS prey on t others and change as fast as we recognize them. We have to be more aware and more involved in our children’s lives and even that isn’t enough. They use ANYTHING to get in, and then spirit them away.
That is kinda true too!! Many Christian groups are not that freindly to people they have their own cliches too
Spot on.
I can't imagine anything stranger than the human race.
I know, right?
And yet here we are looking for aliens, like we're not weird enough 😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Amen!
I just thinking the same thing earlier.
i really like how respectful the journalist is towards the people in the cult and the charities commissioner
I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT THIS CULT IS STILL CONTINUING.
it's a shame the US media fails at doing real investigations like you do. keep up the good work.
Thanks, we love our journalists.
EXCEPT for groups like OMG (O'Keefe Media Group), led by BRAVE James O'Keefe, who originally founded PROJECT VERITAS, and did their great work for many years. When James's Investigative Reporters made BOMBSHELL interviews and EXPOSED Media and PFIZER "Bad Actors"... there were a select few "insider plants" on his Advisory Board who tried to SHUT HIM UP. Because of that, he LEFT THE COMPANY HE FOUNDED, started a NEW Company (OMG) and continues EXPOSING CRIMINALS in Media, Government, Corporations, Financial INVESTORS/Wall Street and Medical/Pharmaceutical Companies.
U expect usa to cover such stories not happening they r good at propaganda materials
Bravo to Amy and Liz and the excellent reporting and staff, here!!! THANKYOU!!!!
I do hope the Cult is investigated. It is so wonderful that 7News report provided this investigation and produced this video to bring awareness to this Cult. I sure hope the Law clamps down.
Quibuloy Cult Next to Put Down!.
Any updates of that devils case in America??
The Àdventist "CULT" is the most cleaver of all!!!
Huge difference in spirituality and religion !!! In the name of religion the most horrific things have happened " since the very beginning" !!!!!
Spirituality is also dark, paganistic on many levels
Destroys lives families and soul ultimately.
People are groomed to practice new age, witchcraft in the name of freedom all to be addicted in it's lies and temporary relief.
All who have ears let them hear.
Really ? just what ?
I’m crying right now. This is so messed up. I was in SCJ for 8 months. But this is HORRIFIC to think about.
When someone is telling you to pose and gyrate in a bathing suit, quit your job, leave your family, sleep on the floor and other outlandish and degrading things like that wouldn't that, at the least, tell you something's not right? I just can't understand this crap.
I don't understand this either. Though I summize they break them down both physically and mentally with brainwashing, sleep derivation and poor nutrition .. And by that time these girls won't know what's right or wrong anymore and just submit .. It's bizarre and very sad at the same time
If you believe deep down that you deserve to be treated badly/punished then no, you wouldn't put up much of a fight at all
Excellent documentary. Thank you for sharing it with us!
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" [Matthew 7:15].
"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? . . ." Matthew 7:16-20
Guys
Three of my siblings are in a cult here in Kenya and trying to tell them to leave is equal to an all out fight!!
😢what's the name of the cult?
Why can’t this woman be made to answer questions in court
All you can do is pray for them and keep in touch . Hope that helps .
In the the words of Ron L Hubbard : If want to make money start a religion. There are creeps like this in all societies no matter what colour or creed. It is up to the individual to follow or not.
"When a man hugs a woman it's so damn HARD" What a deviant creepy animal. No amount of prison time will be enough for this crazy man without complete castration.
proof that you can make people do ANYTHING as long as it's labeled "religious".
They weren't made to do ANYTHING, they did it willingly
@@Dre2Dee2 using religion
This angers me like almost no other video has every done before. As a devout Christian, I am utterly abhorred by this abuse of our faith and the teachings. It’s almost unbelievable that this stuff actually happens and people fall for it and get so hurt. Judgement day is coming.
Religion makes people vulnerable and gullible. It’s the antithesis of critical thinking and reason.
@@judyives1832 - I can see how *faith* in the twisted teachings and hive-mind-pressure can lead one to be so *devoted* that they lose their minds in the process. At the same time, proper faith in the correct teachings can be a blessing to one’s life, in my experience.
In my view no one is without a religion of some sort, even the atheist. Since religion is merely a way or algorithm to live by, a worldview with a set of truths that one believes (or disbelieves) that underpin the way one behaves.
We make up our “religion” as we go as we chose what to believe and disbelieve based on the input, experiences, and observations we make.
So, I agree with you that religion can be harmful but disagree that it is always harmful nor do I agree that it is always anti-intellectual. Shalom.
Religion started to blind side the horrors of slavery. Therefore there is absolutely nothing meaningful about religion. It is all about brain washing and preying on gullible people.
thats why God says to KNOW HIM, not to be led astray. For the devil runs to and fro on earth, seeking whom he may devour. If you dont know the bible, then you are open to satan and his tricks, and lies. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against powers of this present darkness.. be not deceived... so many verses, thats why we need to hide them in our hearts....the roaring lion is running about.....
Brian Houston is at it again
"would the messiah really do this?" hell no.. i pray for healing for these woman and ALL who are involved in this be treated according to their deeds........
So many false teachers and prophets, few read a bible, let alone a good translation.
If I had ever joined this cult, i would have said f off and left when they expect me to wake up at 2 am and have my breakfast at 12 noon! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fascinating and chilling in equal measure. Superb reporting. Proper investigative journalism. So many men, women, girls & boys are sex trafficked. They have no voice except from journalism like this. Which is very brave. There are huge amounts of money & influence in these cults /trafficking rings. No doubt used to pay their way out of trouble. Keep reporting and bring brave, please. It matters. And keep safe. Thank you.💕
AND ''SOUND OF FREEDOM'' -The movie ...IS RELENTLESLY BEING ATTACKED BY THE DEMOCRATS -PERVERTS - AND HOLLYWOOD...BUT...WHY..???
I was part of something I would describe as a religious cult. Nothing sexual. But, there was mental, spiritual, and other types of abuse. It is called YWAM (Youth With A Mission).
I hope the victims can all find healing.
Support to you neighbour.
I watched a documentary about them
I did my discipleship training there for 6 months
@@shumbushoamuza7849- It sounds such a truly delightful and joyful experience.
(Could they not have squeezed it into 5 months.?! Or is that not a thing.)
Until this, I'd heard nothing but good things about Youth With A Mission.
That reporter Sara was straight savage for going after one of those leaders who made that threat
Good job on this video I hope all women are able to watch this so they are aware
I have a born-again Christian Korean friend who told me there are MANY cults in South Korea. There is a spiritual interest IN people there, but they don't have enough knowledge to discern what is good or true, or see who are liars. PRay for their nation to sift out the snakes from the lambs.
Spooked this cult is still v much thriving. And cudos to not only the brave people making this documentary but also every unknown person who stood for truth in the face of threats and bribes.👏🏼👏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you so much for the detailed investigation. My heart breaks for these young women. Here in the US, we have several so-called church cults - one now called the IBLP being investigated by numerous journalists for their practices. Scary world we live in that these cults pray on the vulnerable.
One of the worst cults in America is the cult of trump, who like him are misogynistic sexual abusers, if not in fact then certainly in approval.
Except they just don't want to enrich the leader and harm women and girls.. although they really want to do all of that, for sure. But they also want to destroy America, and the entire free world if they can
@andrearussell9755 I've noticed that relatively new countries, such as the U.S.A. and Australia, are very susceptible to cults. All appear to start with one man. Scientology, IBLP, Mormonism, etc. They all have one red flag in common, total control. Their thirst for money also emerges. They break up families, not wanting anybody to help victims escape.
I found this viseo so disturbing, I nearly stopped watching.
Religions have prayed on the vulnerable for thousands of years; it's not new or just with these smaller cults. But yes, these investigators are doing good work, ; it is dangerous to just let the cults thrive in relative anonymity.
What part of America
Not meant to be offensive or rude, it's prey*
But I think you know that already, maybe it's just a typo or auto correct. 😊
It's frightening how some human beings with twisted, psychopathic brains can find individuals who are susceptible to being drawn into extremely controlling, cultish societies to serve those leader's self serving wants.
See also capitalism.
I think back to my 18 or 20, or even 30 y/o self and think of how vulnerable I would have been to any such cult that came to me with just the right speal. I'd have fallen hook, line, and sinker because I would have so wanted it to be true. I was in some bad places, and a cult could have offered me a way out - but it would have been far worse!
...and the victims are always well educated...and I loose faith in ''education systems'' when girls and boys are just striving to be ''popular'' in school ...and reject the stern ''talk'' of the father about evil in the world..
A lot of young people go through stages in their life's were they can be confused and lost in their direction. It makes them vulnerable.
If you are sheltered in a home filled with love, respect, and truthfulness, you become vulnerable. When I went out into the world at 18, I was very naive and trusting. It took a long time to realize what a warped and dishonest world we live in. I'm 70 now and remember how easy it was to be led astray at that age.
Saw a documentary about him on Netflix. It was so disturbing. I am happy for the women who got out. Really strong women!
Cults, number 1, are NEVER going to admit they're a cult. And number 2, hook people through all sorts of innocent sounding activities. If someone invites you to a informal bible study, or "free" lunch and lecture, or "free" introductory class, watch out...
What an amazing reporter! Well done Sarah
Thank you. This is what all media should do - all the time. After watching many ex-scientologists speak out, there is just so much that all cults share. Even though I am religious, I believe all religious organizations and "charities" should pay their darn taxes.
As a Christian, this story makes me very very angry. Now imagine witnessing to those women about Jesus or anyone who was hold up in that cult. It's an impossibility. Cult leaders really damage a person's heart and true belief system.
@@jussmith2076 Christianity has a much firmer base in reality than you would like to believe. In my experience, it is atheists who are much more gullible to believe anything, as long as it discredits Christianity.
@mandlas.4305
Luckilly, it is not our job to convince anyone, only to testify. It is the Holy Spirit that convinces people, and if He could convince Paul, He can convince them too.
Paul was the first Christian cult leader. If there is a real god and it could appear to Paul, then why has it not communicated in any kind of real way since? Why has it not corrected some of the terrible misogyny, racism, pro slavery ideas in its “book”?
If you actually read what Paul wrote and still think he is a representative of a good god, then there is something very wrong with your moral compass.
@@judyives1832 - who are you to say your moral compass is pointing in the right direction? How do you ground your beliefs about that in and as truth? Don’t you just decide on your own without any real warrant, just opinion?
@@jussmith2076 Religion is a tool, used to manipulate the weak-minded. Those too lazy to spend the energy needed, for critical thinking
This is one good reason why higher education needs to be available to everyone (for the critical thinking, propaganda, persuasion, rhetoric, etc classes)
When you give your trust to another human you are taking a great risk. Humans are two faced at the best of times.
It's fine to give your trust to another human being. Just keep your eyes open to continually verify that trust is warranted.
This is what is exactly happening in Africa today
The devil will disguise himself as an angel of light to deceive you.
GOD BLESS YOU FOR DOING THIS AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT
God ? what god just what did your iron age myth do here ? Oh NOTHING as always. Your ignorance is what allows these cults to thrive
I just don't understand how women send bikini photos to their "pastor"-and don't see that as a red flag? I guess I'm smarter than the average bear but the first time ANYONE in a church (that apparently only allows women to join) asks me to strip down and start taking pictures, I'm going to figure out that something isn't right with this picture..
I'm trying so hard to watch this with an open mind and none of these women deserved any of what happened to them but come on... Seriously? It didn't occur to any of these women - and apparently still hasn't- that this isn't what a loving caring God would want for their lives?
A lot of grooming happens (by multiple upper-level cult members) before the abuse starts, making the victims confused.
What part of brainwashing did you not understand?
It certainly briefly occurred to them that it's bizarre, but at that point, they were already far in the grooming process. It has nothing to do with intelligence. The biggest flaws as individuals are emotional, not intellectual. Moreover, humans are very social creatures and at first, every cults don't seem like one, but more like a welcoming/like-minded/accepting community.
Cults leaders/recruiters will not prey on people based on their IQ, but rather on those seeking for a purpose in life and/or with low self-esteem and/or unmet emotional needs (and these vulnerabilities can happen to anyone at some point in their life regardless of how smart, average or dumb they are). In fact, being smart can work against a victim, because it helps them to think they are too smart to fall for a cult, thus more likely to "rationalize" the first mild red flags in order to keep the "feel good" emotional benefits their new friends/group bring them.
Leaders/recruiters of successful cults are masters at grooming their victims, with manipulation techniques adapted to each individual, to gradually increase their indoctrination until their critical thinking skills are all tangled up and biased (making them docile and loyal followers) and it's virtually impossible to back out easily and/or safely.
I hope this perspective helped you understand better.
demons, unclean and deceiving spirits working through these pervert leaders. that is what causes them to have charisma and influence over thousands and even millions of people.
99% of all brick and mortar "churches" are preaching some level of heretical doctrine, many out of heretical Bibles.
The worst are one's like this.
Catholicism is the ultimate worst that has the most widespread influence.
Having a sister who is a psychopath, your biggest regret when you finally realize it is that you “helped” them and didn’t confront their abuse. Educate yourselves on psychopaths. Google the PCL-R by Dr. Robert Hare.
I have a cousin like that. She’s burned her family out. She changed her name , making excuses for her cruel petty crime being reported in the paper; but everyone knows her face -and the bullshit she pulls. If you come from a large family; dont come back to the area and think a change of name; deflects from that familiar face. No matter how pathetic she tries to appear now; we know the drill. It’s an act to make you feel sorry for her .
Exactly.
My one of uncle’s got murdered by cult community in Korea. I don’t remember exactly which cult it was coz i was only3, My family and relatives are all Christian and the uncle got into cult around 1997-1998 and my mom found out and told him not to go to that church and he accepted and got missing and the police found out his body in the middle of no where in the mountain. Couldn’t find the killer. No one was allowed to mention about him in the family because my mom got really upset and emotional. She still thinks she couldn’t protect him 😢
I really want to know the truth but I don’t want to remind my mom 😢
More importantly their iron age god did NOTHING
I'll keep you in my prayers
I don't understand why that lady can't say whether or not they are investigating a "charity/church" that has complaints of sexual abuse. Is there an Australian law that exempts charities/cults/churches from being investigated even if there are reports of sexual assault documented in reports to law enforcement? I'm from the US so I don't know Australian law but reports of crimes usually develops into an open investigation here in the US like Waco, Jonestown, the Polygamist FLDS, Heaven's Gate, NXIVM, etc. Simply not being able to talk about whether they are investigating or not is so odd.
NXIVM wasn't a religious cult
Probably because cults protect cults. It's all based on the same idea evil fear and they dig the dirt on each other, they don't want to be exposed. That's what I think.
Need to read between the lines
She cannot by law speak out if there is an investigation going on so that answers the question that they are investigating
Absolutely ridiculous..just look at that guy..
Liz and Amy does not deserved to be victimized by that monster. Truly, cult victimized and take advantage of their weaknesses.
Creepy.. it's baffling how people get caught up in cults..
You mean religions…
Cults come in many forms. Not only Religion. 🙏
@@Cboo-y1v There's a lot of weird people out there, waiting for a chance to take advantage of others .
@@renakmans3521 I have never understood the need for religions.. I've always seen them weird and boring..
@@Cboo-y1v yes but most are couched in religion:-)
Thank you for sharing your story ladies. Your purpose on this earth is extraordinary!
7 News Spotlight, you truly give that light for people to see what this organizations are doing to innocent women , good job .
What a coward that charity commissoner has shown herself to be! Gosh, why are these people in this kind of position when they are often complicit in crimes such as this. Shame on her n the organisation that employs her.
...DONATIONS'''...''DONATIONS''...?...POLITICIANS / LEGISLATORS NEVER ''TOUCH'' THE RICH....ONLY WHEN NECESARY..FOR SOME GAIN...
She was probably getting paid off. It’s no secret how people with power abuse their positions
It may be she cannot comment because announcing they are investigating would tip off the perpetrators and allow them to better cover up evidence.
This cult operates out of New York as well. I was walking down the streets of NY City one afternoon in January 2020 and was approached by a girl who asked if I would be interested to join a bible study. I said yes and went with her. She took me to a building which looked like a normal space where there were tables and chairs as if it were a real study area and she gave me a bible and had a bible for herself and started telling me that before we were born we were all living in spirit and once we die we will be in spirit again and that this guy was the actual messiah and we must worship him. That was when my spiritual alarm went off and I confronted her with the Bible verses that contradicted what she said. She got upset and said that I can leave if I don’t believe in what she says. I said I will leave and asked if I could use the restroom before leaving, she said yes. I sprinted out after I had used the restroom. There was another lady who was also brought in like me and she had a puzzled look on her face too.
No person should be your leader, master or lord. Hierarchies are inherently evil. Once a person accepts this dynamic they’ve placed themselves in harms way. It’s these type of people who attract psychopaths unfortunately which is why we should teach children how to think critically, question themselves and everyone around them. Teach them how to self govern so they don’t look to others for guidance or value.
Incorrect. Hierarchies are necessary for order. Can it be corrupted by maniacs? Yes obviously, but the idea when done correctly is perfectly sound
Most people don't have the capacity to self-govern whatsoever, they want and need to be told what to do. You're better off building a good hierarchy then cutting people lose, because maniacs will cast out their net and end up catching them anyway, which is exactly what happened here
@@Dre2Dee2Humans call hierarchy God calls the pecking order and chain of command. Humans worship which is idolatry which is forbidden to worship man. It reads in the buy-bull buy-Baal oops I meant to say bible mind control psyop that man is inherently wicked that's been proven however, these mind control psyops are to divide and conquer making them easier to defeat. The ones pulling the strings are acting having their strings pulled allowing them to think they're in control. Anyone abusing power loses it, their title, their name, their timeline, their books. Keeps one humble and obedient to the ten commandments knowing God giveth God taketh away. They say the president is a cardboard cutout who's the man behind the man behind the man behind the man all the way up the chain of command. How was your stay on earth school? Ready for the Apocalypse the ascension process? In the end everyone gets on their knees but it didn't say why they get on their knees. With 97 being disinformation how do we know this even exists? If 97 percent of this earth school experiment is a lie how do we know we know something? Following a human could lead you into the bowels of hell on the wide path. I'll stick with Big G and avoid these psyops these cults that end up with koolaid and body bags. I'm pretty sure the infinite would never actually do these things. But see which part of God's creation is willing to do such things in order to know where we end up when crossing over. Quite the path to new earth.
May God Bless and heal the victims of this cult. I wonder what these teenagers parents thought about this? This cult is as vicious as Scientology! Both are extremely dangerous for crimes against humanity!
Just what has your mythical god EVER done
Christianity has done far more harm
@@gowdsake7103 He created the heavens and the earth.
No, christianity hasn't. People who claim the be christians has. It's a difference. They pretend to follow Christ but they don't follow the Bible at all.
This is so messed up. No one deserves to experience this.
I love the reporters major effort and commitment to get this criminals behind the bar,good work sister,and to the victims keep strong and continue to defend your rights
People are so gullible. That is how religion makes fools of them. They think having faith is a good thing. They think believing is of some value. Knowing is better than believing. Knowledge has to be evidence based. If you believe things for which there is not sufficient evidence, you are in danger of being tricked.
This is going on everywhere on the planet. Even worse children are recruited and trafficked in the same manner. This world is full of insane people. And this people should be removed from the planet asap