Is Arteta Under Pressure? (Lee Judges Rant) | The Invincible Podcast
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- Is Arteta Under Pressure? (Lee Judges Rant) | The Invincible Podcast
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Robbie interrupting Julian whenever he starts to argue with his opinion & encouraging Lee to go on a rant about Arteta. That's a main feature of this show. The good, the bad & the ugly.... 😂😂😂
Robbie is rude and arrogant. If you disagree with his point/view or have a slightly different one from him he just cuts them off, speaks over them and reinforces his point. Doesnt actually prove that the other view is wrong. He's been wrong so many times (telling people to stay calm its only one game drawing at Anfield last season, followed up with the draw with West Ham and telling fans to calm down) Adamant that Saka should play vs Lens away and everyone should shut up he's not injured etc, what happened? Limped off injured. Really struggle to listen to anything he say's these days. People like James and Cecil are so spot on with their football knowledge and opinions. Like listening to Lee and Julian too with their more old school takes and passion. But Robbie - different planet he's from these days.
What do you expect from those who earn their living based on whipping up anger and frustration from most delusional members of a community seriously in need of mental health therapy.
@@adamwatt9487 Yeah then he just repeates his opinion and expects it to win over Julian. Ridiculous.
Robbie's the worst part of his own show. I'd rather it just be Lee and Julian, at least they let each other speak instead of interrupting like a child every 5 seconds.
@@what1356 the Don built this channel up, I've met him irl he's such a nice and genuine person. Let me take a photo with him and all. Show him some respect please🙏 🙏
Julian....what an underdog story. Turning up and speaking straight facts for a few weeks now 😂😂😂😂 I remember the comment section bashing him. Go on Julian
Exactly right
HE'S SLOWLY GROWING ON ME ⚽🥅🏐♥️🍺
Julian? That's Daniel Levy trolling you lot 😂
This guy speaks no facts he is delusional. Lee judges is the only one there who isnt afraid of speaking facts.
He’s changed his tune because of all the backlash
Arteta is responsible for the issues were facing this season. Changing the tactics to justify paying £65m on Havertz and creating the GK situation out of nothing is all on Arteta.
spot on
He's also the reason why we're even in this conversation in the first place, a fact people conveniently forget.
@@zzz2223 the money is the reason he’s spent 700M what do you mean he’s also the reason he’s has bloody time and spent money of course challenging is the bare minimum, stop with the bloody excuses l, it’s not arteta fc it’s arsenal football club he’s enough time, this season he needs to deliver or BYE!
@@zzz2223 He did brilliantly last season but to drastically change a winning formula and his disastrous man management of the GK's whilst rewarding below par players like Cedric, Nketiah and Elneny with new contracts is extremely amateurish.
And for buying Jesus and Zinchenko…….everyone is now realising why Pep got rid😂
Arteta spend since joining £700m
1 UCL appearance in 5 seasons
Howe spend £300m from a lower base and achieved UCL in his first full season
But these top gooners will tell you to give him more time and money 🤨🤦🏾♂️ seriously and wonder why people call them deluded
d only UCL they will get just watch.
@@Lowkey_AFC gosh. id10t
Instead of onana zubimendi and a top striker arsenal sign fabio viera jorginio kiwio haverts.
Club Already had tierny EMi martinez mavrapanos as a back so what was point in getting kiwio.
The recruiting needs serious questioning are they seriously misusing funds
They also signed Ben White, Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, and Rice. Easy to look at the failures. Only Havertz is the player that costs more than 50m in the ones you listed. Jorginhio was 12m and viera was 35m. You don't get zubimendi at those prices. @@rashidkhalid3970
I love that Julian ain't afraid to speak his mind
You ment Lee Judges right? Lee is wearing red.
@@AlphaTonesStory As much as i am a fan of Lee he's the biggest flip flop on the channel.
Not much with Robbie butting in every 5 seconds 🤣
People need to understand that we’ve been underperforming since the last 8 games of last season , even the games we won this season we’ve been poor
u mean underperforming since the season started apart from lens and a few others every game has been poor
I mean arteta has been underperforming since he won the FA cup.
But Liverpool been poor as well they've just been scraping through games with some last minute winners..
No, we werent. We had many good games.
We’ve been poor every game this season, but walked our CL group and were top of the league just two weeks ago? Make it make sense bruddah
Lee is right, if Arteta finishes 6th and goes out to Porto he'll still have a job.
Of course the owners want exactly that. They can spend on the nuggets and Rams and their other interests whilst keeping Arsenal as a side project and taking their monies out in dividends all the time. Wakey wakey.
Instead of onana zubimendi and a top striker arsenal sign fabio viera jorginio kiwio haverts.
Club Already had tierny EMi martinez mavrapanos as a back so what was point in getting kiwio.
The recruiting needs serious questioning are they seriously misusing funds
By that logic then Arsenal is not acting like a big club
Lee is getting angrier as he gets older. Or maybe thats just Arsenal fans in general 😂.
You know times are bad when even Julian is worried..
Julian has become a great addition.
I’d just like to say when we was finishing 8th twice in the row and bottling 5th to spurts 4 points ahead with 3 games to go and finshed 5th, I use to hear people say well it took klopp 4 years. Ok people it’s been 4 years what’s the excuse now? Because he’s spent 700M and probably gonna be 750 or 800M by the end of the season, in the 4 years arteta been here klopp as won the league CL league cup and FA cup all within rhec4 years of arteta being here and newsflash he’s spent more than klopp in 4 years than klopp as in 7. WHATS THE EXCUSE?
Not enough fans asking these questions. Arsenal fans seem to be so intent on not winning trophies.
Their excuse will be.
1 - It's his 1st job.
2 - He's only been here 4 years ( coming up 5 years ).
@@Putmeincoachplease seriously pathetic. What’s even worse is he’s been here 4 years and look the state of our squad embarrassing
@Lowkey_AFC My guy. You're speaking facts. When I tell people we lost the league by a THIRTREEN point swing last season, most fans are still trying to tell me to trust the process. The title is gone for this season. My hope and prayer at this point is the champions league but even then with the teams involved in it I reckon it will be a bloodbath. To screw up each year Arteta has been at the club and to say we must still trust him is rubbish. He must leave at the end of the season. 19/20 season eliminated against Olympiacos with the Auba miss, 20/21 eliminated against Villareal in the semis in the europa league and having Wolves, Aston Villa, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester City do the double over us was when I said enough is enough but he stayed on. The 21/22 with no European football we still managed to fail to reach top 4. What a disgrace.
Finally, a fan with standards
Lee Judges really knows Arsenal!!!
He has good pointers about the Club
It's perfectly reasonable to say that the title challenge isn't officially over and obviously Arsenal can still win the league, but also that you don't think they will win the league based on the evidence, without it being labelled as an overreaction.
It’s over.
Last year we had the best chance to win the league but we bottled it, now Liverpool is back to their best and we have no chance of toppling them. Klopp have got a proper squad even without Salah Liverpool will not drop points. To win the league we a proper coach. Arteta will not win us anything
We've got two strikers who go on goal droughts, two 8's/10's who dont create and two full backs who cant defend.
Van gaal got sacked for finishing 5th and fa cup. He only got 2 seasons. Mikel has been in the job 4 years and won the fa cup with emery/ wengers players
And nothing since l, but people talking about give him more time, what to sign more deadwood and waste another 200M
And bottled every chance since to do something. Europa league, top four and the title. Embarrassing tbh.
He should of been sacked about 4 or 5 times. Last season was a fluke, We've been sussed out wasnt hard.
. All clicked then all luck on our side. And we choked. Choked yr before for top 4.
A lot of the current squad aren’t Wenger/ Emery era bought players. Time to stop using that excuse. Arteta has made progress with the team but keeps undoing that progress by tampering with a winning formula due to his coaching inexperience and his coaching staff not having the requisite backbone to speak up when he’s making big errors with decisions.
Lee is right , no top four and a fa cup is sackable
Really rate Robbie but its mad simplistic to say 'the attackers aren't firing'.....I'm sorry but with this slow paced football where you allow teams to get back into position into a low block, do you really see us create proper chances? Also when our defenders and midfielders dwell on the ball and play sideways instead of in behind, you can't say its only because of our attackers.
Robbie does that quite a bit
He is right.. Jesus is injury prone and Eddie is absolute garbage.
We need strikers it is that simple 🤷♂️
Then why didnt we keep balogun and give him a chance? He scored 20 goals in ligue 1 last year@mariuskarlsen4029
Robbie's one of the dumbest contributors to this channel and he owns it lmao
@@what1356Absolutely agreed!!
I concur with Julian 💯 Arsenal's buildup is really slow and teams have realised how to play us.
For all the talk of us needing a striker (which we do), the biggest concern for me is midfield. We’ve essentially stripped the engine out of last year’s team (Xhaka and Partey) and this has affected everything going forward. Goals weren’t a problem last season remember.
Without a functioning engine room, a new striker won’t make a massive difference.
I agree with Julian on the speed of the game. The build up especially from Ben White and Saliba is so slow and it encourages the opposition teams to up their approaches for the rest 90 minutes.
I’m with Lee Judges, Arteta should be under pressure for how the team has played this season especially the xmas period. Lets be honest he’s getting a massive pass at the moment.
A pass? It's called supporting - can't throw him under the bus when we're still near top of table and one of the main title challengers
100% agreed Lee, he won't ever get sacked in any foreseeable future regardless of what happens. It's his club as the Kronke has given him the lock & key forever.
Lee makes a point tbh
The problem is the quality of our players, we’re trying to play a Man City style without Man City level players. Prime city from 2017 onwards had a style, everyone knew what was coming and how they were gonna play, but they couldn’t stop it. Simple as that. We haven’t got the world class players to execute such a style, so it’s up to the manager to play a style that suits who we have, or replace the whole squad .
A style pep him himself has moved on from, to win the treble!
So you would rather replace the whole squad than the manager? He bought most of these players.
How are we playing man city style?
@@jivet3919 “trying” you nugget
@@jivet3919understudy settings
Arsenal will dip out of the FA Cup and then say "well it's only the FA Cup and now we can focus on the league."
Believe me if Arteta was under real pressure internally from the heirachy to win i doubt he'd be doing some of the things he's doing now
Julian is spot on in this episode! How Robboe doesn't see this as a major tactical change is beyond me.
Also spot on with the fact we have no plan b. We walk it up slowly then try and pass through a team that's sat deep and welcomes that approach.
And by plan b Julian means tactically not in terms of personel and the difference between jesus and Eddie.
It doesn't matter who we have in attack if the approach is going to be the defenders walk it up, suffocating the space for the forwards to work in.
The change has the be variable in terms of tactics. Get the ball in the box, crosses and maybe some long balls. We might not get on the end of some of these things but it creates a problem for the opposition tactically and can help to create space for those moments when you want to walk it up and play through the lines.
I agree with Robbie, the players are not performing anywhere near the standards of last season. If They can’t score a goal with 30 chances in a match that’s not Atteta’s fault.
Fans are fragile and finicky. Especially Arsenal fans.
Well who’s fault is it then? Arteta brought these players. And they can’t do the job he wants. Of course it’s his fault.
@@jivet3919 Tbf unlike yourself the real match going fans are ok
Robbie you should let other people make their point before you interrupt them. you force your guests to raise their voices so that they can be heard, in addition to forgetting the point they were trying to make prior to your your constant interruptions.
I really like the dynamic of these 3 together, especially when they all get time to make their points.
I agree with Lee Judges, Arteta is under zero pressure. Robbie did Arteta gave you brown envelopes?
Julian has defined our undoing this season… our build up is too slow… We have no excuse playing slow against low block teams we should be running at them… Let’s leave the controlled approach to only 2 opponents, city n Liverpool…all other teams we should be beating easily…
If Kiwior was allowed to play as just a normal left back, like say White does on the right then hed probably be better
But Arteta has him doing what zinchenko does, inverting into midfield, makes the role much more complicated for someone who isnt even a left back
Lee fighting like a tiger, not putting up with two spin master's
I like Robbie and Julian giving it to LEE unlike those bumbs on Forever Arsenal, Lee says some wild things against Arteta, he needed to be put in the bin for his mindset and Arteta.
I’m always with Lee, big up Julian also 👍🏻
Julian is a top dude
On god, Lee is the only AFTV employee that I listen to, the rest are just clowns for the circus.
How do you know that the rest are clowns?
Do you listen to them?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 @@maxpowers111
@@maxpowers111 yes.
@@maxpowers111😂😂😂
City kept their wide players very wide because they had Gundogan and De Bruyne (and Foden) who on top of being goal & creative threats can burst into dangerous areas
Havertz and Odegaard don't strike me as the right fit for such a tactic
Robbie correcting Julian on how to pronounce a players name is not the character arc I was expecting lmao
Best show on AFTV. Julian is a legend 💪
Lee Judges is spot on, Arteta will be Manager next season no matter what happens.
Lee is correct about arteta staying if we finish outside the top4
Half-back is something I've never heard of before. Thanks Julian.
Julian is such a tory
He’s a multimillionaire too you knows funny you say that… the guy has multiple businesses and minted as well
Robbie is doesn’t even try to act balanced or play devils advocate, now he’s straight anything Arteta and Arsenal do is right
Hi lads, Lee judges is talking a lot of sense (apart from if we lose to Sunderland Howe will get sacked) under massive pressure yes I agree but sacked not under the circumstances.
Arteta has been manager over 4 years finishing 8th twice 5th then runners up spending over £700m so let’s put this into some context.
Howe took charge just over two years ago when we were on 7 points and bottom of the league, he took charge in November and at Christmas everyone said we would get relegated it had never been done before staying up from that position and we finished 11th.
His first full season we finished 4th and over achieved massively, got to a cup final while spending £320m, we are currently 9th which will probably get worse this month with City and Villa up in the league and we still have 12 players out injured which has been most of the case for the past 3.5 months, we still have 8/9 players on our books from our time in the championship and we can’t spend because of ffp simply because of Ashley ran the club into the ground, we had no sponsorship deals of any note, championship clubs employed more staff on a day too day basis running the club than we did.
Our training ground hadn’t been touched in over 20 years we had no woman’s team of note, our academy was the worst by far no investment whatsoever the stadium inside hadn’t been touched in years and years, we had no director of football, the story goes on and on the club was playing the worst football in years even Rafa had at least some organisation too it but under Bruce the team were training 2.5 days a week on average.
All this had too change and has been addressed in most cases while from the outside this might look poor this year but in real terms it’s not as bad as what it looks, we are playing the likes of Gordon, Bruno, Joelinton, Schar etc etc all carrying knocks but we just don’t have the players to give them a rest so they have played10 games in 30 days they are not machines it’s bound to catch up at some point and things probably won’t get better until mid February so if we can stay in touch of a European place until then once we get players match fit then we’ll see an improvement.
So to back judge’s argument up if we finished 11th 4th 6th & 5th in Howe’s 4 years is that worse or better than Arteta’s 4 years? It’s a hypothetical situation I know that but where we have come from under Howe is nothing short of remarkable and let’s see in the next 5 years where Newcastle are and I’m sure it will be a different conversation, all this takes time because of the cartel ( big6) keeping everything to themselves and if you think I’m wrong apart from Leicester and now Newcastle last season who else has broken into the top 4🤷♂️ it’s the same teams just in different positions that’s what the cartel want but things will change it’s just a matter of time.
Newcastle had ridiculous injury crisis... Equivalent to Spurs and United.. Arsenal has had it easy on the injury front
I’m with Lee as always
You forced Wenger out for JUST getting top 4,& now arteta is the best manager in the world, finishing 8th twice & a BOTTLED top 4 to spurs & BOTTLED the league & your asking if he's under pressure, CIRCUS OF A CLUB & DELUDED FANS, perfect for each other
Robbie has some great insights but I think he dominates the talk too much for me. We want to hear Lee speak more!
I saying every times time Arteta out
Julian is spot on, the build-up is slow, but Ben White, Zinny, and Odegaard are the main contributors. However, the wide players need to be held accountable. Martinelli has been indecisive, and his poor decision-making is becoming worse as his confidence continues to decline. While many Arsenal fans like Robbie keep mentioning Ivey Toney, our current system will not suit a striker like him. Our build-up is too slow and too predictable.
Saka looks winded even in the first half of most games, he played a vital role in our wins last season. This year he's not turning up. Martinelli is trying but this ain't no one man army type thing fam. We need our top players to get on with the firing. Also why do we always play the ball back?
I don't understand why Robbie interrupting Julian whenever he start to talk😮
Time people realised that Partey is our most influential player. He makes everyone tick. When he’s back. We’ll be back to how we played last season
Apart from arteta nobody has challenged klopp and pep for a premier league title race before. Fans are too reactionary it's unbelievable. Who would you appoint? A conte or a jose?? We will go backwards and will destroy everything what arteta has build so far and then these fans will be the same ones who will mourn again like they are mourning now for seliing xhaka while just only few months ago they were calling him to be sold. If these fans start running a football club we would be fighting relegation ffs
He didn't challenge anything
From being bantered for the last DECADE and now ARTETA getting 2nd spot nearly winning the PREMIER LEAGUE theres CL FOOTBALL and fans still want him out?? SMH
@@jamesbarry9477😂😂 we was 1st for 95% of the season but apparently we didn’t “challenge” what would be challenging then?
As much as I get frustrated by Arteta, this is a very good point and has put me back in my box.
@@shayn9346 the fact you're boasting about that, 93%. Lolo
When the challenge actually came you weren't there, mugs
I know people wont understand this but this is why Nunez is very good for us ( maybe not to rely solely on but for the team) when he plays for us the defenders are confused those chances he misses makes defenders stick on him and track him( e.g those Newcastle center backs were living hell with him even the rb or lb had to help cover) if you notice how much his movement allowed diaz and salah to have so much space is insane... Arsenal need someone like Toney , toney could score three to 6 goals for half of the season but notice how many saka and martenilli/jesus will get from his presence alone
I'm not sure mate cos if liverpool was in arsenal position would you be saying this? I believe we are making excuses for Nunez only because the team as a whole is doing well. There is no way we spent nearly 100m for someone to play well off the ball
Now Salah is away for a month, people will be less kind to Nunez if he doesn't step up.
@@voodoochile333 Nunez has 6 PL goals and 5 assists he has stepped up.
@@mustardsketchup5476but we aren’t in their position because nunez has helped us
@@lol-bg4wh I hope we continue to do well because I'm sure that if ever we stop scoring/winning the first person to be blamed will be Nunez
Like Julian, I have also said we've got a better chance of winning the Champions League this season than the league. We technically don't have to win a 90 minute match again to lift the trophy.
Good luck with that 😂😂😂😂
@@superflyjimmysnucka9068
😅😅😅😅😅
@@superflyjimmysnucka9068 i said we have a better chance of winning it. I didn't say we were going to win it.
@@simonmarie83so basically your saying you no chance of winning the league or the champions league then
@@etempt8218 obviously not what I'm saying
Always backed Julian. These 3 together is wkd though. So much knowledge between them. Keep Julian in the squad.
I agree with Robbie, our strikers have the same profile which isn't great. Thats why I wish we would have kept Balogun instead of Eddie. I think Balogun brings some hold up play, he is making runs right into the box and being a target man or getting in behind and striking the ball cleanly. I understand he was unproven in the prem but I think he would contribute to the goals
He's averaging a goal every 226 minutes in France this season. I don't think he's quite the ace in the hole you should be targeting if you're aiming for a prem.
You need someone on the calibre of salah/haaland at being prolific in front of goal.
Would Arsenal be any worse off under Wenger with that amount of money to spend? Look back at his last few squads, a half a dozen stars but horrendous squad depth. He played more exciting football than Arteta with much less talented squads. Give him £700 million or whatever it is and can anyone honestly say Arsenal would be much worse.
You can't really say 4 of our attackers are not firing (or not in form) Robbie, there must be a reason that hold all of them to not firing? I would say change of tactics the build up is so slow and the teams regroup and floods the penalty box before our attackers reach there.
ramsdale is so young, we should keep him and develop his game. hes got 10 years of top football in him.
Julian is funny. Last 19 games of 22/23 we were 5th..5th! Besting that is hardly a feat.
In our last 38 premier league games we have 74 points. Vs the same fixtures last season replacing promoted teams with relegated teams we are 7 points worse off this season.
Robbie is spot on. Our offense has has been ridiculously poor compared to last season. Our defense been ok, but we just cant score. Thats also the difference between us and pool.. They're conceding a lot of sloppy goals too but their offense is ridiculously good especially with salah.
And that is down to the system & hence the manager. Last season we created far more chances so missing them wasn't a big deal.
Fans only remember the chances missed when we lose, not when we win.
In 5 years time you lot will still be talking about last season 😴
Our defence has been WAY more than just "ok". We have the best defense in the league...!! It's our attack that's lacking so far.
If you look closely all of Julians gear is spelt Arsenel and the cannon is the wrong way round
I like Lee a lot, he is one of the first people I turn to on AFTV, when there is a fan cam or podcast because he is a true, hardcore, old-school Arsenal fan. But I have to admit, as much as I am a fan of him, he is quite a reactionary fan, and says things without thinking before. 2 results should not change your opinions this drastically (imo) 😊 but I still like Lee and will forever do!!! ❤
i get what you mean there. i think his reaction was due to the fact that due to the performances we’ve had this season, the last two games was an accident to happen. Even when we win games, we were not playing well. I understand that three points is the most important thing. But with the way we’ve been playing, we all knew it was not sustainable.
This is a league of fine margin. When you compete against City, 2 games is a lot.
Yup! He did the same with Ramsdale’s dropping. He was the biggest reason there was such an issue surrounding the situation. He was on Sky Sports News, his own podcast, getting his puppet, Dan Potts to get on that hype train all because he has a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with Ramsdale.
Julian you can't compare this seasons 1st 19 games, to last season's last 19 games as that inclubded the title capitulation, so it's a flawed stat.
The delusion gang has another memeber. Up to 3 now. Ty, Julian and now Robbie. Not just because of this podcast. Just listen to him talk on Arsenal. You can’t take a man seriously on the topic of football or Arsenal when your opinion is that biased. It’s so laughable. I’m not an opposing fan either. I’m an Arsenal fan. Listening to Robbie makes me cringe harder than listening to Julian or Ty now. It’s astonishing 😮
I hear you!!
JULIAN is my favourite analyst and speaks a huge amount of sense
I love his comment on Kiwior and Arteta playing him incorrectly and expecting instant miracles
How should Kiwior be played?
@@kaysheye7784He's a classic LCB. Arteta's asking too much for him to be a creative LB. He had the same issues with Tierney.
@@what1356 this is agreed - 100% but the discussion is that we need to see this in the same category on how Pep perfectly inverted Walker to improve his passing ability and IQ on a better basis. Walker still plays the fullback duty - but you can see Pep coached him excellently within his abilities to elevate it. I think Arteta could’ve done this with Tierney, but Arteta’s inexperience is proving that. Definitely should play players in their positions and if he can’t improve them individually to play different positions - then that’s a managerial issue too.
@@what1356 Exactly!!
@@anonymous4140 Kiwior has barely played more than a few minutes of football since he was bought 1 x YEAR ago BY ARTETA…
Yet Kiwior who is a LCB is expected to miraculously learn the inverted LCB role in his sleep…
This is on Arteta
Robbie waffling like normal😂
I agree with this guy... Slow build up.... But how you can make it fast when alll your player defending at your goal... Marti and saka play like wingback and gabi generally look like a cdm
What if we collapse in the last 19 in this season? At the end of the day, you should compare like for like. There's more pressure at the end of the season and more likely to be injuries and fatigue..
Lee"s more rational mind didn’t last long😂
Neither did Arsenal being top of the league 😂
The dynamics of group change when PSG are awarded a dodgy 98th minute penalty. This is big, it meant Newcastle were not going into the final game with Milan only needing a draw. Dortmund did their job. Howe was naive to keep attacking but he decided to go for it at 1-1 and got done on the counter attack because Newcastle don’t have a 6.
Give any of them top 5 managers the time and money Arteta has had they would of had a title by now. I get it, he worked with Pep, but if he worked with Gordon Ramsey he probably ain't gonna become a michellin chef either.
Is robbie on the payroll or something? 100% arteta needs to be under more pressure
Only for a club that wants more than CL each season
julian always speaking fact. our voice of reason.
He used to be toxic positive/delusional but he seems to have wisened up a lot recently.
Lol except when he says he doesn't want to be like City and that they're not exciting
City have absolutely dominated the Premier League in recent times and are coming off a treble but he'd rather win 'excitingly'
Hes a complete prat
Horrific analysis to say ‘the attackers aren’t on form’. WHY ARENT THEY ON FORM? Why is the important question. And it’s very much due to the tactical tweak by Arteta
But harvez has been scoring if not the suspension, let’s take easy it seems we ve not still discovered our strongest points, the mistake arteta made in the match against Fulham was bringing out harvez instead nkethia no matter the situation I still believed harvez wud ve got a goal even at 93 mins extra time
Don't disrespect Klopp like that. Check the squad Klopp had and compare it to what Arteta had. Mignolet, Clyne, Lovren, Skertel, Toure, Moreno, Lucas, Coutinho, Benteke, Lallana, Sturridge etc. Out of all the players he had only Lallana & Coutinho were good players and compare them to Lacazette, Auba and Ozil. All very good players when signed and had good periods. You forget Klopp went to a Champions League Final and won it the season later after 3 seasons. Then won the prem in the 4th. Then finished the entire set in 7 seasons and wasn't on a mega budget like Arteta. Know your role before comparing both clubs and managers. Just accept Arteta isn't the Pep 2.0 you all thought he was.
The manager is the problem.
1.letting xhaka leave
2.removing the box to box role
3.introducing midfield/second striker hybrid role into the team.
4.signing Havertz
5.signing the inferior Raya and dropping ramsdale.
6.not rotating and utilising the fringe players.
7.changing the powerful, free flowing and unpredictable play from last year.
8.changing the tactics to this turgid, boring, pre-rehearsed routing phase style of football.
Xhaka has literally said Arteta tried to get him to stay but he wanted to leave.
@@ln5747 xhaka was still under a contract.
I have never seen Lee as angry as 30 minutes in. Jesus Christ.
24:00 Robbie forcing an answer from Lee and I agree with him(Lee) that the league title is already lost. The hope that things can change is exactly that. Hope that other teams will lose and hope that arsenal will win the remaining games(or at least draw in a few key contests) but not being confident about the coming games.
Forget the title.
Have to put up with some over engineered, self indulgent football.
And where are our academy players. That's arsenal culture.
Where's it?!.
Let's not get carried away by this luckiest manager in the whole wide world.
Some of you gunners are absolute FLIP FLOPPERS you lost 2 games and now it's all over 😂😂😂
@@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13 20 years. 3 and a half seasons. Either which way. You can't call it flip flopping.
@@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR132 games? 🤨 you fool he’s had 4 years and 700M what you mean 2 games we’ve spent all that money and given him time for us to be fighting for top 4 🤨 wtf
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He should have been sacked at least 5 times. 8th, 8th and 5th then the biggest bottle in PL history after binning all the cups. He also got owned in the EL league. He had a good system last year and then he changed it, which basically negated his “good work” from last season. I respect the fact you love the man more than life itself but these issues have been evident all season. Please use your secret order to make Arteta a better tactician and man manager and we might have a chance.
Lee is absolutely right no pressure on Mikel... Whatever happens they will keep him .
i think we should just drop the toney cause if we get him i dont think still we win the league. Our defence is solid, one mid field position and one striker is the only one pending. Considering injuries the only way we can win the league from now will be to get a good LB and stop conceding goals. Even though our atttack is not on form we score 1. If we can fix the LB somehow and stop conceding goals. We will always have a chance to win a match (Jose Style)
Thanks the three points is what matters
Does Julian have a pod? Wanted to actually hear what he has to say. Tell me more about half backs before he got interrupted
ARTETA actually thought he was gona replace Auba a guy who was challenging for top goal scorer in the league when we weren't even at it for eddie 14 nketiah. Now we're struggling to score even after 30 shots on goals Our Mangers Too Arrogant No pressure FC
Lol. You must have been in a coma Auba last year with us 😂. He was missing chances make our recent ones look almost impossible
He was doing very well until he started buying players like Fabio viera kai haverts kiwio jorginio.
The recruiting needs serious upgrading and arsenal need a Micheal Edwards type in charge
@@rashidkhalid3970 Jorginho was a decent buy actually. He should have played against Fulham if fit. Vieira zi don't think was his. He had never spoken to him before he arrived for training. That one is Edu - Mendes (offshore banking accounts) type deal 🤪
@@virupakshawalla5734then went to bang for Barcelona for 6 months
Robbie just a delusional puppet who works for the club. Can't say the truth because it will hurt his pockets. There are videos of this manager micromanaging on the touchline and losing his mind because our players are kicking the ball long. This manager has made a tactical change that will cost us big time, it already is. Defensively we are worse than last season and attacking we are worse than last season as well. This is on the manager. If you can't criticise him then idk who you support because this is arsenal fc not arteta fc.
the drop off of some teams last year really contributed to others over achieving
What do you mean?
@@maxpowers111Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U, Tottenham all under achieved, plus Villa weren't there either. That's why we were made to look better than we actually were
@@davidvarga5010 I guess that City won the treble because their opposition all underperformed.
Cool.
Rice has affected the way we play. Looks great and sure it can come good with him but first half compared to Partey first half last season that is large part. Xhaka we could have kept this year? Odeegard we said dangerous to mess with his output and Arteta did (hip injury was definitely factor, he was good in both losses.)
Kack of conviction is hiw I would sum it up. Tgats Mikel job
Well he didn't affect all your defeats he's played in..
What I think is, Arsenal's midfield n forward is to light weight always get push over. If not We need someone like Xhaka
Robbie is the kinda guy that watches only his team and pretends to know what happened with others by looking simply at results. Newcastle haven't been up to scratch this season, that's simply a fact, but they were robbed away in Paris and very unlucky in general based on their performances. Arsenal would've struggled in that group, Lee is right and as usual the one that has the most realistic view.
Eddie Nketiah has now gone over a year without scoring an away goal in the Premier League and Jesus is not prolific so how can Arteta expect us to be better in both boxes? Especially with our slow, predictable buildup instead of the fast high press which gave us possession in dangerous areas.
Turn away from the video when Julian speaks. You'd swear on your whole family that it's Simon Jordan.
Lee is becoming the new Claude. Loving the rants 🤣
Yes, Newcastle have not spent as much money as Arsenal. How does that defend your point though? They also didn't finish as high as Arsenal in the two seasons since they started spending that money and don't look set to finish as high as them this season either, so how is it relevant saying "they didn't spend as much money"?
So should we say that there's no point in comparing Arsenal to City or Liverpool because we've not spent as much as them in the past decade? Or do we just change that one to fit the current narrative?
I agree with Lee, Arteta should and is under pressure, your managing the 3rd biggest club in the league and the fact of what we archived last season the pressure should be on.
If we miss out on top four this season. Surely arteta, something must happen to his tenure at the club?
Look at our bench. When our Front three is not firing our options are so limited. Trossard cant play LW Or CM. He can play only in False 9. But Artetas is obssed with Nketiah. Lets break it down. Trossard has deliverd this season when starting CF. He has looked poor when starting in LW. Nketiah turns into R9 When playing at the Emeriates. Hasnt scored in 365 days away from home. Nelson hasnt scored since that bournemouth goal. One moment and he hasnt deliverd because the manager dosent play him. Smith rowe hasnt scored for about 2-3 years. When he is coming on he is desperate and forces things. Thats why i feel something should change. A game away at Burnely. Give Nelson a start, Nketiah start, Give Smith Rowe a start, Give the bench player s a game to prove themselfs