Short video of the gains we made from going from 3.23 to 4.10 gears, I think the truck has more in it as it sits, but it still has an 87 octane tune, that will be changed soon!
Hp vs torque That truck's engine is made for torque. Lower gear just gave you more torque. You need a cam that'll wake that engine up. Those heads should be fine. Gears and cam go hand in hand. Video rocked. Loved the way you got to the point and showed the data.
It only seems to really help when towing and you don’t want the rpm to drop out of the power band. With the stock motor it’s just going to throw it up into the flat zone quicker when you dig through the gears.
Trucks really aren't meant for racing in the first place, and those damn crappy 4 speeds don't help it at all, 4.10/4.56 gears work really well in a truck if you have a big enough stall converter too take advantage of the shift extensions that big stalls naturally have like a 3600+ stall
Problem with all you people is this...nobody ever talks about a real mans reason to do gear reduction...fk the speed bullshit...lower gears are for towing...not speed! Put a tractor behind that truck and see the real difference
A set of headers would be a good idea too, the headers helped my buddies crew cab more than anything else so far, he still has a tune for 87 octane right now, soon we are going to put a more aggressive tune on it
Drivin with Drew nice. I already have headers and Tuned it as aggressive as possible. Use it mostly on E85. Also a 150 shot of nitrous. Works pretty good just not to good in the 60 foot. 410s should help. I got a video on my channel. Should check it out. The one where it’s on the DYNO.
My 99 z71 is getting 4:10 a thumper cam holley high flow intake 102mm throttle body 1100cc injectors long tube headers 3 in pipe to Flowmaster outlaw extreme shorties built 4l60e with a 3200rpm stall corvette servo stage 3 shift kit RHS pro action cathedral port heads and dome top pistons aiming for about 700hp at the crank
What gears would you recommend for a 2003 5.3 built from the block up it’s a daily driver but I’m wanting more top end but also wanting to keep acceleration and towing capacity
Do you think 4.10 has an advantage over 3.73. I have an OBS getting swapped with a 6.0 and a 4l80e. I plan on doing long tubes with an x pipe and carven r mufflers.
With a 4l80e you will want 4.10s especially if you have a cam, mainly bc the 4l80 has a high 1st gear, with my 383 stroker truck with a 4l80, 4.10s, and a 30 inch tire, still does over 55 in first gear, you can watch a few vids of it too see how it does if you would like to!
@@drivinwithdrew7676 I don't have a cam yet but do plan on getting one in the future. And also my truck is dropped so my tires are a little under 27 and it's a daily... I read that it's only about 2-300 rpm difference but idk what that translates to mpg I just don't want it to get dummy worse
U think gears are worth it in a 2003 ext cab Silverado btr stage 4 cam, ss3200 stall, stock 3.23, stock manifolds (headers should be coming soon) and a stock wheels/tires? And also it’s tuned. Spinning hard ran a mid 16 @ 88 mph
Yes it would be well worth your money, especially considering that you have 3.23 gears. With your gears I bet it also feels sluggish once the converter is locked up, 3.73 or 4.10 gears will make it a lot happier
If it feels sluggish with 3.55 gears, then I would jump to 4.10 bc a 3.73 isn’t a big difference from 3.55. With the 4.10 it will definitely take off better, but raise your cruising rpm
Drive it to the scrap yard and put a Chevy in its place with a high winding 5.3 or better yet s 6.0 with 4.11 gears and there you go no more sluggish ford
Bc it was tuned to shift at 6k for normal wot shifts to be nice to the 4l60. But he can shift it manually to run it out farther when trying to get everything out of it
I have an 08 gmc 1500 4x4 It has 5.3 and 4l70E trans. I've straight piped it and intake. I want to swap gears but dont know if 4.10 or 3.73 will be best. My tires are little bigger than 30s. What do you think?
Johnathan Bolton 4:10s should be just fine with that tire size but if you go any smaller of a tire I would do 3.73s. Unless it’s a race truck then the 4.10s are the better option
I have a new 350 in that makes about 386 hp and 408 torque it’s in my 86 k10 so I have pretty good sized tires and all but the rear end is stock would you recommend 4.10 gears
Drivin with Drew it’s got a th350 and I mean it gets up and goes on the highway I’d say about 120 if you stay on it but it’s just a little sluggish I just need something to help with the low end torque
Yamaha Guy17 if you have 3.42 or higher gears now, then 4.10s will raise your cruise rpm quite a bit, but it will definitely give you more power off the line,
Depends on the tire size in my opinion, you might already have 4.10s if you have tires that are bigger than 33s I might would look into a 4.56 or something similar,
Id highly recommend you look at a gear vendors before you spend the money on a set of gears, its an over drive unit that you can use to split gears as well and combined with a 4L80 you can run really short gears like 4.88's and get better mileage than stock as well. Easily one of the best mods you can do to a truck if you ask me, a little 5.3 will run 12's all day with 4.56's and a good cam and being able to split gears I don't doubt high 11's are out of the realm of possibility
I ran a 5 speed with my 383 stroker for a while, I had 3.42s, then switched to 4.10s, the 4.10 works pretty good, but makes a short 1st gear, so sometimes I’d launch in 2nd which still worked pretty good, I have 29 inch tires, so cruising around it didn’t bring the RPMs up too much
complete waste of money... no acceleration gains, specialy when switching gears 4 times while lower gears switching 3 times per drag race and that will be lost race and fuel.
You’re right, with the tune it had at the time, and a stock converter, the 4.10s will only do so much, once it has a converter, the gears will come into play more. It’s all about obtaining the right combination, and this was one piece to the puzzle,
Hp vs torque
That truck's engine is made for torque. Lower gear just gave you more torque.
You need a cam that'll wake that engine up. Those heads should be fine.
Gears and cam go hand in hand.
Video rocked. Loved the way you got to the point and showed the data.
Thanks for the positive input
It only seems to really help when towing and you don’t want the rpm to drop out of the power band.
With the stock motor it’s just going to throw it up into the flat zone quicker when you dig through the gears.
Trucks really aren't meant for racing in the first place, and those damn crappy 4 speeds don't help it at all, 4.10/4.56 gears work really well in a truck if you have a big enough stall converter too take advantage of the shift extensions that big stalls naturally have like a 3600+ stall
Like my 383 which has a 3800rpm stall and 4.10s, rpms never drop below 5k on the shift
Tahoe 2007 4x4 5.3
4l60e 3.7 end gear(stock) only cat delet
0-60=6s
He was faster before the gear swap I don't understand
Drag radials and it’s time for 14’s! The 60’ will pay big rewards in ET. Nice upgrade! JD
On regular street tires and a stock converter we have done 14.56 at 98 so far!
Did you flash the ecu for 4.10's
@@diduck6878 yeah
Problem with all you people is this...nobody ever talks about a real mans reason to do gear reduction...fk the speed bullshit...lower gears are for towing...not speed! Put a tractor behind that truck and see the real difference
Bro revered it out way to much last run 🤣🤣🤣 mf was laying over bad
First video I found helpful. Thank you. I’m planing on changing my 2018 5.3l GMC Sierras gear ratio to 410. Would you recommend it??
If your tires are smaller than 28 inches with a stock cam then i would go for like a 3.73, but if it’s cammed then I probably go 4.10 for sure
Drivin with Drew alright thank you. 👍🏼 I do not have a cam yet. Getting one soon anyways so I’m going for the 410.
A set of headers would be a good idea too, the headers helped my buddies crew cab more than anything else so far, he still has a tune for 87 octane right now, soon we are going to put a more aggressive tune on it
Drivin with Drew nice. I already have headers and Tuned it as aggressive as possible. Use it mostly on E85. Also a 150 shot of nitrous. Works pretty good just not to good in the 60 foot. 410s should help. I got a video on my channel. Should check it out. The one where it’s on the DYNO.
Turbo Racing if I would have known that I would have said go with the 4.10s for sure, it will be well worth it
My 99 z71 is getting 4:10 a thumper cam holley high flow intake 102mm throttle body 1100cc injectors long tube headers 3 in pipe to Flowmaster outlaw extreme shorties built 4l60e with a 3200rpm stall corvette servo stage 3 shift kit RHS pro action cathedral port heads and dome top pistons aiming for about 700hp at the crank
Hahahaha maybe 400hp at the crank
RIP 4L60e
Where the hell do you think you're getting 700HP at the crank 😂 if your gonna bullshit atleast make it believeable
Is that chrome Cologne??,in the Lil Dash Pocket?
Got the same truck ...
I love that Truck!!!
Personally I would not recommend 4.10 unless you want a drag set up. Or if you have big ass tires on a truck. 3.73 are ideal
What is big ass tires are 35s considered big ass tires
With 35s you want 4.10s for sure or even 4.56s depending on the vehicle
What gears would you recommend for a 2003 5.3 built from the block up it’s a daily driver but I’m wanting more top end but also wanting to keep acceleration and towing capacity
4-10
I have 3.23s on my Denali I wanna do 3.73s with Mamo Intake and 1 7/8s heaters
What gear's would be best for 1/8 mile? Going from a 700r4 to a turbo 350!
1/8 mile with a high revving small block or ls engine, probably 4.30-4.56s
@@drivinwithdrew7676 definitely high rpm screaming sbc, thanks buddy!
4.56
Do you think 4.10 has an advantage over 3.73. I have an OBS getting swapped with a 6.0 and a 4l80e. I plan on doing long tubes with an x pipe and carven r mufflers.
With a 4l80e you will want 4.10s especially if you have a cam, mainly bc the 4l80 has a high 1st gear, with my 383 stroker truck with a 4l80, 4.10s, and a 30 inch tire, still does over 55 in first gear, you can watch a few vids of it too see how it does if you would like to!
@@drivinwithdrew7676 I don't have a cam yet but do plan on getting one in the future. And also my truck is dropped so my tires are a little under 27 and it's a daily... I read that it's only about 2-300 rpm difference but idk what that translates to mpg I just don't want it to get dummy worse
With 27 inch tires 3.73s won’t be too bad
@@drivinwithdrew7676 I was thinking 3.73, thanks for replying man appreciate the feedbacc
What rpm are you at cruising at 75 or 70
What app was that? I'm going to put 410s in mine soon
It’s called dragy, you also have t get the dragy device to use with it
I do 0-60 with my 5.3 truck with 4.10s in 6.5 seconds. It’s hard to hook for sure.
Does this mean that from a dead stop it will spin the tires when flooring it with 4.10 gears??
@@elmacanonmoreno2220 no doubt.
@@BradenAlan nice.. cant wait till august 2nd
@@BradenAlan even with 22s?
@@elmacanonmoreno2220 my 5.3 with 3:73s spins and 35x12.50s like nothin
How about 342 to 410 29s tires to 33s tires ?
That’s a pretty good combination
U think gears are worth it in a 2003 ext cab Silverado btr stage 4 cam, ss3200 stall, stock 3.23, stock manifolds (headers should be coming soon) and a stock wheels/tires? And also it’s tuned. Spinning hard ran a mid 16 @ 88 mph
Yes it would be well worth your money, especially considering that you have 3.23 gears. With your gears I bet it also feels sluggish once the converter is locked up, 3.73 or 4.10 gears will make it a lot happier
Yes
you need a performance tuner
In this video it has a nearly stock tune, it has been dialed in since this video
@@drivinwithdrew7676 how much better is it after the tune?
@@alexh5358 it helped a lot, you can check out the video
I got a 2010 ford f150 4.6 2v single cab , has 3.55 feels hella sluggish sometimes , do u recommend 3.73 or 4.10s , I dont drive on the highway really
If it feels sluggish with 3.55 gears, then I would jump to 4.10 bc a 3.73 isn’t a big difference from 3.55. With the 4.10 it will definitely take off better, but raise your cruising rpm
@@drivinwithdrew7676I mean it doesnt really rev that high anyways. Planning to put headers and a tune later on
@@drivinwithdrew7676 3.55 in a GM? 3.42 I think 🤔
@@diduck6878 he said he has a Ford with 3.55 gears 🤷♂️
Drive it to the scrap yard and put a Chevy in its place with a high winding 5.3 or better yet s 6.0 with 4.11 gears and there you go no more sluggish ford
😂so it slowed down
I think stock was 15.8 at the 1/4 mile and after all the stuff it was 15.4 lol
@@19shawn85 the truck runs mid 14s on the street
@@misaelvera9767 didn't know it was your build cheif
With the old gears the trruck spings withthe 4.11 did not
Question, might be dumb . Why the shifting on a automatic truck ?
Bc it was tuned to shift at 6k for normal wot shifts to be nice to the 4l60. But he can shift it manually to run it out farther when trying to get everything out of it
I have an 08 gmc 1500 4x4
It has 5.3 and 4l70E trans.
I've straight piped it and intake. I want to swap gears but dont know if 4.10 or 3.73 will be best. My tires are little bigger than 30s. What do you think?
Johnathan Bolton 4:10s should be just fine with that tire size but if you go any smaller of a tire I would do 3.73s. Unless it’s a race truck then the 4.10s are the better option
@@Tristanallen77 I appreciate it, I have 32inch tires on truck and dont plan on going smaller. Just want it to get up and go faster than it does
@@Tristanallen77 I'm picking up a lq9 short bare block that's been bored out to a 6.2 Wednesday. Going to put that in instead of a 5.3
3.73 daily driver, 4.10' s otherwise
we’re you starting in 1st or 2nd gear? can you explain why?
ooo your shifting the whole time?
I have a new 350 in that makes about 386 hp and 408 torque it’s in my 86 k10 so I have pretty good sized tires and all but the rear end is stock would you recommend 4.10 gears
What’s trans is in it? If you drive it on the street at pretty high speeds and it don’t have overdrive then 3.73s might be a better choice.
Drivin with Drew it’s got a th350 and I mean it gets up and goes on the highway I’d say about 120 if you stay on it but it’s just a little sluggish I just need something to help with the low end torque
Yamaha Guy17 if you have 3.42 or higher gears now, then 4.10s will raise your cruise rpm quite a bit, but it will definitely give you more power off the line,
Drivin with Drew idk I would have to look it up it will be an investment cause I have to change the front Gears to with it being a 4x4
I got a 6.0 ms3 cam and long tube headers built 4l65 what gears should i go for im planning on spraying 150 shot of nitrous
4.10 especially if you’re rear tires are 28 inches or taller
@@drivinwithdrew7676 okay thanks man im getting my gears this week ill post a video
@@sinnerlsx4266 hell yeah bro
If I take a rear end off a 2002 Tahoe codes gt5 & g80 will it fit in 2000 Silverado codes gt4 & g80 ?
Good question, I’m not 100% sure
Nope, coil spring vs leaf spring
What size tires
I’m getting 4.11 gears cam truck would I need tune after getting the gears truck is already tune will I need another one??
You will need a tune to correct the speedometer, it will also upset the abs, without the tune
I got a 04 lq4 with a 4l80e what gears do u recommend for performance? Thanks in advanced
Depends on the tire size in my opinion, you might already have 4.10s if you have tires that are bigger than 33s I might would look into a 4.56 or something similar,
Id highly recommend you look at a gear vendors before you spend the money on a set of gears, its an over drive unit that you can use to split gears as well and combined with a 4L80 you can run really short gears like 4.88's and get better mileage than stock as well. Easily one of the best mods you can do to a truck if you ask me, a little 5.3 will run 12's all day with 4.56's and a good cam and being able to split gears I don't doubt high 11's are out of the realm of possibility
What app did your use to time the 0-60
It’s called Dragy, you pay for a Bluetooth gps that connects to your phone or camera
What gears did it have before ?
Or did I miss where you said it?
Do you have to get the computer / transmission retuned to shift properly after the gear swap?
It’s definitely a good idea,
What gears would you recommend for a 6.0 LQ9 4l60e trans . I’m getting the posi but don’t know what gears to get .
If you’re tires are bigger than 28 inches I would go 4.10, if they are smaller than 28, I would go with 3.73 gears
So it’s slower.
Did it add power
lower gears just add torque, the only trade off is top speed goes down (max mph)
I have a 5 speed 4.8 should I go with 4.10s or 373s ?
I ran a 5 speed with my 383 stroker for a while, I had 3.42s, then switched to 4.10s, the 4.10 works pretty good, but makes a short 1st gear, so sometimes I’d launch in 2nd which still worked pretty good, I have 29 inch tires, so cruising around it didn’t bring the RPMs up too much
@@drivinwithdrew7676 what what your RPMS at 70? I have a 5.7 with 4.10 gears and my RPMS at at 3k
galaxy rider I believe about 27-2800
complete waste of money... no acceleration gains, specialy when switching gears 4 times while lower gears switching 3 times per drag race and that will be lost race and fuel.
You’re right, with the tune it had at the time, and a stock converter, the 4.10s will only do so much, once it has a converter, the gears will come into play more. It’s all about obtaining the right combination, and this was one piece to the puzzle,
What app
The app is called dragy, you still have to order the dragy to use it, but the app is free
What gears tho recommend on a 2005 GMC Yukon I’m going to be putting a 235/240 cam with a 3600 stall built 4l60e 5.3
If it was me, I’d go with 4.10s on 29-30 inch tire
How much power did it add
Gears dont add power they just change the way power is used
Doesn't add power. Gives the appearance of power where no power. (You get in your power band faster) same effect with converter, most bang for buck