The real question is why are trucks running away? Problems at home? Instead of nets they need a truck psychologist on the side of the road to help these poor trucks.
You don't understand that much about trucks I do not matter you have problems at home or you don't have no problem special at work when your brakes go out just hope you make it and everybody else and another thing too that's why they got them spots for check your brakes and sometime they go completely out ,,and that goes the same way for your cars or pickup trucks pulling trailers full loaded going down the hill and you're using your brakes too much and too hard they're going to get hot and crystallized
Problems: The ramp is on the left. The net and canisters have to be replaced every time. You've got a toxic spill to clean up every time. God help you if another truck needs the ramp during maintenance.
4:04 "The gravel arrester bed used the best technology available at the time" Stones were the best technology available in 1994, what a time to be alive
Now that we've got new technology iPhones, all the braking can be done with 5 million broken iPhones on the arrester bed instead of the ol' fashion gravel
They can't use a gravel bed here because it's frozen solid about 5 months of the year. This one saves lives as there are stop lights at the bottom of the hill.
I never use brakes down hill, i always pick the correct gear to go down a hill and let the engine and retarder do what its made for. But great idea for emergency.
If a truck's brakes have failed, there is no logic staying in the slow lane or having slow vehicles blocking the truck's access to it as it approaches... It's called a "slow" lane for a reason, much like a truck/vehicle suffering brakes failure, is called a "runaway" for the opposite reason. I actually found this video, after watching a video of a truck using a gravel ramp which was connected to a slow lane. In that particular video, it actually became surprisingly clear that the driver of the runaway vehicle often has to be "lucky" with timing, in order to safely be able to get back into the slow lane between slower vehicles that were in its way, to be able to actually even use/access the gravel ramp at all. At least when you see a truck barreling down the hill behind you in the fast lane (hopefully with hazards and flashing headlights to get your attention), you'd realise pretty quickly it's in fact in distress and get out of its way asap... People in the slow lane are just going to think "Go around buddy", instead of clearing the path... Just an observation.
oopth But think about it..... why on the right and not left? It's like editing a huge paragraph in the middle of an essay written in ink. There's lots of two way highways so it would be inconvenient and dangerous to implant a runaway zone on the left side. If the highway isn't newly built or if it's on a steep mountain, they wont risk builing it in between the lanes rather than adding it to the right side. Idk if I make sense, cuz visual things always clear things up for me- which is why Im watching this video about how Runaways work. But back to that essay, either you start all over, or you write it in the right margin and draw attention to it. This is without using whiteout or anything, because like I said, it's inconvenient and dangerous to fix up a steep mountain two way highway. Anyways, Im not trying to argue or anything. I just wanted to give a reason as to why there's typically more runaways on the right side than the left. (at least where I live).
Where that runaway ramp is there is a rock face on the on the right side of the hwy. Hwy 11 makes a left hand turn 3 lights past the ramp so most trucks would want to be in the left lane coming down the hill instead of changing lanes in the city. At the top of the hill before you even start down there are signs saying all trucks must use left lane. And they get fined for going down the hill in the right lane. So truck won't have to try and cross a traffic lane to get to the ramp
In bc salmon pass 18%grade 21miles or kootenai 18 to 22% for 14miles all ramps on opposite side of road we know how that would turn out yup cars passing you and oncoming cars no chance of using ramp I watch a guy die he tried but too many cars coming he flew 17000ft to his death below and on salmon the final ramp goes across#3 at the stop if you make it across traffic and blow thru the ramp a pile of dirt it's over long fucking way down
As. Truck drive that owned a truck that was put into a gravel bed by a driver, this system looks great. The gravel bed tore 26th truck up to the point of total loss. This system looks like if it makes only cosmetic damage that is repairable. The gravel system sent my driver rocketing into the room causing major bodily injuries. This on the other hand looks safer. Ontario MoT, thank you for your innovation in safety.👍 Good job!
Am I wrong in thinking it would be nice to have some kind thinish modern material for a 'bumper' type effect, on both sides of the Concrete walls (in between each set of netting...so as to keep the truck's cab from breaking apart..as well as keeping the trucks from impacting the walls so hard that the cab might come apart and the engine gets any kind of hit? Might help keep the drivers from hitting to hard on steering wheel...or seat belt breaking and driver goes through the windshield? Meaning , yes there's 7 nets but travelling at high speeds still ..drivers could suddenly have more loss of control...forcing more of an impact with those concrete walls..or other mechanical failures could happen...making keeping truck in forward mode almost impossible for the driver.
Semis could be required to use the lane closest to the runaway truck ramp for the previous mile, That would ensure further safety by aiding reaction time, and already being in the mindset of possible catastrophic failure, etc.
I would use the ramp that is under repair as I could honk the horn and hopefully everybody would see the truck coming and get it of the way. Best not to use it in the first place though.
Wow I'm amazed in how Ontario has changed since 2007 when I left,I can't even see Euclid ave and Hwy 11 was not there.Ontario is unrecognizable.what happened to the airport?
Thanks folks for advancing the technology of stopping runaways by moving past the gravel pit. I remember when the first ramps were installed in North Carolina. Truckers were thankful beyond description. Hurtling down a mountain at breakneck speeds without brakes is likely an exciting event. Too many didn't live to tell about it.
That's amazing how fast it stopped the truck with minimal damage. I'm guessing that they put up protective barriers blocking entry to the runaway ramp while resetting it and cleaning up after a truck has already entered it.
What happens if a car like a Honda or Ford sedan drives into this by chance? Will the cables slow the vehicle safely or is the force it takes to unwind those stop blocks so strong it just rips a car apart? Pretty cool how it worked for the loaded truck but i want to see car go into it at speed.
I was a commercial truker for many years, and always hated when had a full load & HAVING TO CLIMB HILLS that really slow me down delaying while needed to use the frk'n toilet. Have any engineer calculated how much distance is needed to stop a fully loaded truck on an inclined ramp? Now to prevent from rolling backwards have the side walls stepped for the driver to steer into the one closest to the point of back roll. If a runaway rig's driver was able to take in the ramp it should be able to back roll into the Wall's step corner, or maybe an additional Anker system implementation. How about triangular wheel shocks comming up from the ground activated by sensors like the ones used on automatic gates? This nettings on video are ridiculous.
I grew up in northern Ohio, where a hill is any change in road height more than 3 feet over a half mile. It's pretty flat there. knew nothing about hill-induced brake failure, runaway truck ramps or any of this until I stumbled onto this video and now the random info nerd in me is mesmerized when he should be in bed.
I have just found out that runaway truck lanes are a thing, so this is not a developed thought. It seems like an air traffic control equivalent might need to schedule trucks if 4 hours are required to reset the netting for the next brake failure emergency. I'm sure other problems or driver error causes runaway trucks so while it is a wonderful system... Maybe trucks are tracked and scheduled already, what do I know? I learned something new today. Mind. Blown. God bless truckers! ♥️
wonder what the reset cost is? I've heard the traditional rock beds are very expensive to reset and destroy the vehicle, making the driver hesitate to use it. It looks to me like the vehicle damage was relatively minor in this system.
From my sketchy memory the gates in WY cost approximately $10,000 to replace (each). So up to $70,000 if you use all of the gates. Reset time is less than the gravel bed. All of the vehicles in WY have been able to be driven off the mountain as well. The insurance companies are happy to pay the reset costs as a fatal accident costs much more. There are still fatalities on the road for those trucks that chose not to use the system.
So, out of curiosity, wouldn't it make more sense to combine both this set up with sand(less damage from anything thrown up)? I understand that it would still likely freeze in winter, but have 2-3ft deep sand for the first 150-200ft and spread the lines out a bit. Common sense tells me, that that would make the runaway lane reset faster and cheaper, as well as do less damage to the truck.
I would also like to add, what happens if a truck carrying an oversized load has brake failure? say the truck weighs in at 100,000lbs or even manages to reach a speed of 90-120 mph? That system isn't designed to stop that kind of weight or speed.
Oil came out when that happens the soil be it sand in this case would become contaminated and like gravel would need more time to clean out and refill. Its still time consuming and thus cost prohibitive.
If this is a safety film, and it is why did the driver at 9:56 jump from the cab of his truck to the ground? He could have easily injured his back or broken a leg. This truck driver should have turned around and used the three-point system (Two hands one foot or two feet one hand) when exiting the cab of his truck. Too many drivers have been injured jumping out of their trucks.
If a regular sized car or van decided to use the ramp, what would the result be? Have there ever been tests of this nature? Seems like it might be a pretty gruesome scene with thin steel cables hanging about.
so the gravel where the truck received minimal damage and is pretty easy to reset is replaced by something that damages the truck, slams it in to a wall and mostly likely costs 1000's to replace??
Simon, I understand the pessimism. However in colder environments the gravel wasn't working and there were actually some fatalities. The reason for the gravel not working is because of freeze/thaw. The snow would melt underneath then freeze the gravel and it wouldn't slow the truck adequately. Also for gravel you need a longer runway which isn't feasible on some mountain passes.
Gravel system tossed that truck which used it into the wall as well and since its Gravel and thus porous the fluids would be coated all over the gravel which some of it got tossed into the roadway. So gravel that got contaminated would have to be removed and cleaned or replaced. More time consuming and takes up too much room not giving enough response time.
I was thinking the same way but if you look up ahead of that there's other set of cables if I see right and if that's the case they have it set to side soon that truck goes by comes around and hooks just in case another truck has to use it that's my thinking
Peter Gizmos A truck can be replaced. The people killed in the previous accident mentioned in the video are still gone. Forever. Other options (e.g.: gravel bed) don't work in winter months and don't give enough time for drivers to know they have brake problem in that hill. What's not to understand?
what would happen if a normal car was to use this? i would assume it would stop the car almost instantly as it weighs a lot less and therefore would cause injuries.
The runaway truck ramp multiplies the force the longer the vehicle goes down the ramp with the multiple fences. You're right that it would stop the car quicker however not to the point like a concrete well. The passengers would be just fine. A 4,500-pound vehicle hitting a 30' wide net at a speed of 62 mph will stop in approximately 83' with an average deceleration of approximately 1.6 g's.
This destroyed the prime mover whereas the gravel pit does little to no damage and could be used with a different medium that isn’t effected by snow or ice
Rocks for most lets trucks in and out and cost less and as soon as one truck is removed another truck can use it with little down time. This is but one more system... and there are more...
They tried to make the video more dramatic by editing the snot out of it. Except for the distant "spectator video", we don't get to see a full shot of the crash from beggining to end. Just random clips all spliced together and jumping back and forth between each other.
This is great if you have only 1 truck with a break problem. What happens if another truck is behind the first truck. I guess 2nd guy is just SOL. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ or he runs into the back of the first truck.
Years ago before we had the catch net system put in there was alot of run away trucks cars and RVs one RV came all the to Buffalo and crashed into a mall killed all the people in it
If space permits, I would think a gravel bed would be better and result in less damage and may even be less costly and time consuming to return it to operational status. Admittedly, I'm not an engineer in this area. The arrestor type is better than nothing at tall, but a 4-5 hr reset time raises the cost and from this video, damage. Once the truck was captured by the arrestor cables, steering control was lost because the loaded trailer is trying to continue its forward momentum. There's no arresting capability for the tandems in a cable type system. I can see where a jackknifed rig could result. With gravel, the tandems also encounter resistance and help reduce stopping distance but steering control is also reduced.
As they said in the video, the gravel type arrester bed would freeze in the winter, with the weather that can occur in that part of Canada any truck going into that would be hitting a skating rink, not loose gravel or stone.
The old system stopped many trucks without the damage this new system creates. Not to mention the astronomical cost they charge for the privilege of it's use.
How would like going the other way when someone used this and wound up with a 2 inch gravel stone i your windshield? Yeah they do not use less than 2 inch stone in those rock ones, so they do more damage than you see and if you watch the gravel test it also tosses the control of the truck to one side not to mention the bouncing it did. Also look up "box truck getting flipped on runaway" when using said gravel ramp. And yes snow turning to water and freezes up where it snows and rains even if an area it gets cold enough to freeze, gravel becomes SOLID.
I didn't say it was a smart thing to do but that's what the MTO has decided. When a truck uses the runaway ramp they close it to big truck while they take a hour or so to reset the system
This is bad design because all the stopping force is applied at the very front of the vehicle. If the load isn’t perfectly strapped down it could be sent flying into the driver cab due to inertia. The river rock runaway ramps are better since the stopping force is spread across all axles.
That's what I was thinking. They had the highway closed for the test itself but if two drivers have brake failure in rapid succession while the ramp is in service, there could be major problems
Very interesting technology, but looks expensive and is awful hard on the truck, Couldn't you just build a shelter over the gravel? IE a covered Bridge. So a large barn or shed that would keep the gravel dry and keep the snow out would allow a traditional sand/gravel/rock ramp to work year round. It would also keep rocks from flying out. Pricing out large metal buildings is real easy (barns and airplane hangers are real common.) Basically a pole shed. It would of course need sides for blowing snow, but then as long as the rock is dry, it would work.
Try building a RUBBER PIT, where a pit filled with tire BEEDS used to stop a fully loaded truck... The further the truck goes into the pit the deeper it plunges into the pit... where a cable winch is used to pull out the RIG... safer and less damage to a Truck...
Ur right, i think the case should be investigated and if its shown the driver/company have been neglecting vehicle maintenance they should get a BIG ASS ticket but if its a random malfunction that happens sometimes on cars they shouldn't.
Maybe the drivers should slow down and downshift before starting the descent and go slowly and safely down the hill. I know, not nearly as exciting, but less squishy at the bottom!
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bobtribe u sir saved me 9 mins. thanks
Thanks
The real question is why are trucks running away? Problems at home? Instead of nets they need a truck psychologist on the side of the road to help these poor trucks.
lol
You don't understand that much about trucks I do not matter you have problems at home or you don't have no problem special at work when your brakes go out just hope you make it and everybody else and another thing too that's why they got them spots for check your brakes and sometime they go completely out ,,and that goes the same way for your cars or pickup trucks pulling trailers full loaded going down the hill and you're using your brakes too much and too hard they're going to get hot and crystallized
@@garyrichmond7857 he was being funny.
@@garyrichmond7857 joke went wayyy over your head.
@Peter J Mallia Because ceramic breaks.
9:10 your welcome
Why you steal their comment
Problems: The ramp is on the left. The net and canisters have to be replaced every time. You've got a toxic spill to clean up every time. God help you if another truck needs the ramp during maintenance.
oh well, guess you better run into that busload of nuns instead.
I've seen this ramp before. Driven past it a few times. Its acually pretty neat to see it from a driving perspective.
9:08.... You're welcome.
This was a smashing success. Absolute last resort but a success.
4:04 "The gravel arrester bed used the best technology available at the time"
Stones were the best technology available in 1994, what a time to be alive
Now that we've got new technology iPhones, all the braking can be done with 5 million broken iPhones on the arrester bed instead of the ol' fashion gravel
And a net to keep fist-sized rocks from being slung back into the high speed traffic was way beyond the science of the time.
They can't use a gravel bed here because it's frozen solid about 5 months of the year. This one saves lives as there are stop lights at the bottom of the hill.
Never thought of that. But why would this southern California truck driver? lol, it's a bit different down here.
I never use brakes down hill, i always pick the correct gear to go down a hill and let the engine and retarder do what its made for. But great idea for emergency.
On the runaway ramps in Oregon, you get ticketed about $2000.00, if you use it for whatever, period..
Insurance will probably cover that.
I would say its cheap "driving lesson".
I wouldn't call it a ticket either. It's more of a fee.
first name Yeah but State patrol will do anything to site you for the fees
Yup that's why guys die on cabbage makes alot of sense dosnt it?
Why is the ramp on the left side of the highway? The truck has to cross the fast lane to get to it.
If a truck's brakes have failed, there is no logic staying in the slow lane or having slow vehicles blocking the truck's access to it as it approaches... It's called a "slow" lane for a reason, much like a truck/vehicle suffering brakes failure, is called a "runaway" for the opposite reason. I actually found this video, after watching a video of a truck using a gravel ramp which was connected to a slow lane. In that particular video, it actually became surprisingly clear that the driver of the runaway vehicle often has to be "lucky" with timing, in order to safely be able to get back into the slow lane between slower vehicles that were in its way, to be able to actually even use/access the gravel ramp at all. At least when you see a truck barreling down the hill behind you in the fast lane (hopefully with hazards and flashing headlights to get your attention), you'd realise pretty quickly it's in fact in distress and get out of its way asap... People in the slow lane are just going to think "Go around buddy", instead of clearing the path... Just an observation.
oopth But think about it..... why on the right and not left? It's like editing a huge paragraph in the middle of an essay written in ink. There's lots of two way highways so it would be inconvenient and dangerous to implant a runaway zone on the left side. If the highway isn't newly built or if it's on a steep mountain, they wont risk builing it in between the lanes rather than adding it to the right side. Idk if I make sense, cuz visual things always clear things up for me- which is why Im watching this video about how Runaways work. But back to that essay, either you start all over, or you write it in the right margin and draw attention to it. This is without using whiteout or anything, because like I said, it's inconvenient and dangerous to fix up a steep mountain two way highway.
Anyways, Im not trying to argue or anything. I just wanted to give a reason as to why there's typically more runaways on the right side than the left. (at least where I live).
Where that runaway ramp is there is a rock face on the on the right side of the hwy. Hwy 11 makes a left hand turn 3 lights past the ramp so most trucks would want to be in the left lane coming down the hill instead of changing lanes in the city. At the top of the hill before you even start down there are signs saying all trucks must use left lane. And they get fined for going down the hill in the right lane. So truck won't have to try and cross a traffic lane to get to the ramp
In bc salmon pass 18%grade 21miles or kootenai 18 to 22% for 14miles all ramps on opposite side of road we know how that would turn out yup cars passing you and oncoming cars no chance of using ramp I watch a guy die he tried but too many cars coming he flew 17000ft to his death below and on salmon the final ramp goes across#3 at the stop if you make it across traffic and blow thru the ramp a pile of dirt it's over long fucking way down
Trucks must use left lane. The hill is maybe 1km long. City is right at the bottom with traffic lights.
As. Truck drive that owned a truck that was put into a gravel bed by a driver, this system looks great. The gravel bed tore 26th truck up to the point of total loss. This system looks like if it makes only cosmetic damage that is repairable. The gravel system sent my driver rocketing into the room causing major bodily injuries. This on the other hand looks safer.
Ontario MoT, thank you for your innovation in safety.👍 Good job!
Nope my brother at dealership here said they were shocked frame was bent bad
6:23 Calm down there, Dwight. You're a bit too excited about a spool. Shouldn't you be getting back to the office?
*sings* "Trust me, I'm an Engineer/ I think we'll put this thing right here..." :D
Deadddddddd 😂😂😂😂😂
Spools are serious matters, millions of spools get spent every year Jim...!
I wonder if parachutes on the back of the truck could slow it down kinda like the ones that were used on the space shuttles?
Great idea.. sort of like an arresting wire on an aircraft carrier
first name why's that?
Guess we'll never know.
More like a breaking hill
how many states in the u.s have implemented this emergency system
What if two runaway trucks need the ramp at the same time? / does the ramp works for regular vehicles as well?
Am I wrong in thinking it would be nice to have some kind thinish modern material for a 'bumper' type effect, on both sides of the Concrete walls (in between each set of netting...so as to keep the truck's cab from breaking apart..as well as keeping the trucks from impacting the walls so hard that the cab might come apart and the engine gets any kind of hit? Might help keep the drivers from hitting to hard on steering wheel...or seat belt breaking and driver goes through the windshield?
Meaning , yes there's 7 nets but travelling at high speeds still ..drivers could suddenly have more loss of control...forcing more of an impact with those concrete walls..or other mechanical failures could happen...making keeping truck in forward mode almost impossible for the driver.
Semis could be required to use the lane closest to the runaway truck ramp for the previous mile, That would ensure further safety by aiding reaction time, and already being in the mindset of possible catastrophic failure, etc.
wheres the 3 points of contact when exiting the vehicle!!!
Be kinda hard to use 3 point contact when all your steps are covered with steel bands
That's the very last thing anyone would think about after a safe halt in a loaded with concrete blocks semi!
Haha yea he jumped out of the truck!
Stupid comment Angie.
I see now, I was wondering when I was climbing that hill midnight 2 months ago, I thought That was a tunnel to somewhere but can't see it clearly.
Did you folks at the CMOT consider use a less destructive netting material ? Aircraft Carrier Arresting Nets come to mind.
"This PARTICULAR unit; and they're all the same"... lol.
I wonder what happens if another trucks brakes fail while there are all those people cleaning the first one up
I would use the ramp that is under repair as I could honk the horn and hopefully everybody would see the truck coming and get it of the way.
Best not to use it in the first place though.
Runnnnnnn!
You'll have a semi truck food processor capable of grating humans into bite sized chunks.
what about a high rear load? I've seen some stupid loads in excess of 40000 lbs.
Ok. So my question is what happens if u have another truck that lost brakes & this drag system has a truck in it already??
For those of you looking for a crash it's not for a while. 9:00
Wow I'm amazed in how Ontario has changed since 2007 when I left,I can't even see Euclid ave and Hwy 11 was not there.Ontario is unrecognizable.what happened to the airport?
What if there are more runaway trucks behind?
great runaway truck video
WHAT ABOUT IF 2 OR 3 TRUCKS GOING TO USE THE RAMP? HOW LONG IT TSKES TO FIX IT FOR ANOTHER EMERGENCY?
Why on earth is it installed on the left hand side?? What if the road is busy and the truck can't change into the left lane?? Any explanation?
Thanks folks for advancing the technology of stopping runaways by moving past the gravel pit.
I remember when the first ramps were installed in North Carolina. Truckers were thankful beyond description. Hurtling down a mountain at breakneck speeds without brakes is likely an exciting event. Too many didn't live to tell about it.
That's amazing how fast it stopped the truck with minimal damage. I'm guessing that they put up protective barriers blocking entry to the runaway ramp while resetting it and cleaning up after a truck has already entered it.
What happens if a car like a Honda or Ford sedan drives into this by chance? Will the cables slow the vehicle safely or is the force it takes to unwind those stop blocks so strong it just rips a car apart? Pretty cool how it worked for the loaded truck but i want to see car go into it at speed.
It will slow a smaller vehicle effectively since there are gates and not a single one. The force is cumulative.
It would heavily damage a small car
They set cables to 'stun'
If it's low height car the cables could go thru the windhshield it would seem
This system will shave off the roof of regular cars and decapitate all passengers. You will have to duck
Just imagine two or more trucks driving close to each other having to use it
They only built this shit to make money and destroy trucks.
@@videosmusic1794 oh yeah because without it, plowing thru the intersection and flipping over is a walk in the park
@@videosmusic1794 tell that to the people who died in the i-70 crash
What would happen to an oblivious motorcyclist? Though they tend to have a notoriously short lifespan any way.
I was a commercial truker for many years, and always hated when had a full load & HAVING TO CLIMB HILLS that really slow me down delaying while needed to use the frk'n toilet. Have any engineer calculated how much distance is needed to stop a fully loaded truck on an inclined ramp? Now to prevent from rolling backwards have the side walls stepped for the driver to steer into the one closest to the point of back roll. If a runaway rig's driver was able to take in the ramp it should be able to back roll into the Wall's step corner, or maybe an additional Anker system implementation.
How about triangular wheel shocks comming up from the ground activated by sensors like the ones used on automatic gates? This nettings on video are ridiculous.
I grew up in northern Ohio, where a hill is any change in road height more than 3 feet over a half mile. It's pretty flat there. knew nothing about hill-induced brake failure, runaway truck ramps or any of this until I stumbled onto this video and now the random info nerd in me is mesmerized when he should be in bed.
I have just found out that runaway truck lanes are a thing, so this is not a developed thought. It seems like an air traffic control equivalent might need to schedule trucks if 4 hours are required to reset the netting for the next brake failure emergency. I'm sure other problems or driver error causes runaway trucks so while it is a wonderful system... Maybe trucks are tracked and scheduled already, what do I know? I learned something new today. Mind. Blown. God bless truckers! ♥️
Tebos Hill??
wonder what the reset cost is? I've heard the traditional rock beds are very expensive to reset and destroy the vehicle, making the driver hesitate to use it. It looks to me like the vehicle damage was relatively minor in this system.
From my sketchy memory the gates in WY cost approximately $10,000 to replace (each). So up to $70,000 if you use all of the gates. Reset time is less than the gravel bed. All of the vehicles in WY have been able to be driven off the mountain as well. The insurance companies are happy to pay the reset costs as a fatal accident costs much more. There are still fatalities on the road for those trucks that chose not to use the system.
My only question is, why are rock beds expensive to reset? Isn't it literally moving the rock back into place?
Dealer wrote it off frame was bent
I think it's time some smart engineers developed a better system.
What would happen is a regular car lost it's breaks, and the driver decided to driver into one of these Runaway Truck Ramps ?
I remember going up monarch pass but never back down it was interesting
"Ontario is a great place to work and live"
Lies lol
what if my truck's brake looses after I passed the truck ramp?
Mohannad Ules you're screwed
So, out of curiosity, wouldn't it make more sense to combine both this set up with sand(less damage from anything thrown up)? I understand that it would still likely freeze in winter, but have 2-3ft deep sand for the first 150-200ft and spread the lines out a bit. Common sense tells me, that that would make the runaway lane reset faster and cheaper, as well as do less damage to the truck.
I would also like to add, what happens if a truck carrying an oversized load has brake failure? say the truck weighs in at 100,000lbs or even manages to reach a speed of 90-120 mph? That system isn't designed to stop that kind of weight or speed.
Oil came out when that happens the soil be it sand in this case would become contaminated and like gravel would need more time to clean out and refill. Its still time consuming and thus cost prohibitive.
If this is a safety film, and it is why did the driver at 9:56 jump from the cab of his truck to the ground? He could have easily injured his back or broken a leg. This truck driver should have turned around and used the three-point system (Two hands one foot or two feet one hand) when exiting the cab of his truck. Too many drivers have been injured jumping out of their trucks.
4 hours and parts cost how long did it take to reset gravel?
Rough And Wretched R.A.W. how long to reset gravel could be 6 months before it thaws out enough to slow a truck down
If a regular sized car or van decided to use the ramp, what would the result be? Have there ever been tests of this nature? Seems like it might be a pretty gruesome scene with thin steel cables hanging about.
Bill, there recently was an incident with a smaller truck in Wyoming. It only used 1 gate and the vehicle was safely driven off the mountain.
How about runaway train or airplane?
Somebody should implement the Dark knight method of stopping the truck
Great idea Canada!^^
They need a few more then , if there’s 2 or 3 trucks.
"North Bay, a city of a-boot 55,000 people."
It must go against every intuition to drive into that
This thing looks a lot like arresting gear we use in the Navy on aircraft carriers to trap F18s when they land on the flight deck.
so the gravel where the truck received minimal damage and is pretty easy to reset is replaced by something that damages the truck, slams it in to a wall and mostly likely costs 1000's to replace??
Simon, I understand the pessimism. However in colder environments the gravel wasn't working and there were actually some fatalities. The reason for the gravel not working is because of freeze/thaw. The snow would melt underneath then freeze the gravel and it wouldn't slow the truck adequately. Also for gravel you need a longer runway which isn't feasible on some mountain passes.
Gravel system tossed that truck which used it into the wall as well and since its Gravel and thus porous the fluids would be coated all over the gravel which some of it got tossed into the roadway. So gravel that got contaminated would have to be removed and cleaned or replaced. More time consuming and takes up too much room not giving enough response time.
Ok what about if a second trailer crash After the other one in The same spot and and there is no more of the stopping equipment
I was thinking the same way but if you look up ahead of that there's other set of cables if I see right and if that's the case they have it set to side soon that truck goes by comes around and hooks just in case another truck has to use it that's my thinking
Uh, just a citizens question - don't trucks mostly drive in the right 2 lanes? So a runaway system would be more accessable on the right side?
Trucks are required to use the left lane in this particular location.
so the drag net basically makes trucks wreck? i'm not sure I understand.
Peter Gizmos
A truck can be replaced.
The people killed in the previous accident mentioned in the video are still gone. Forever.
Other options (e.g.: gravel bed) don't work in winter months and don't give enough time for drivers to know they have brake problem in that hill.
What's not to understand?
what would happen if a normal car was to use this? i would assume it would stop the car almost instantly as it weighs a lot less and therefore would cause injuries.
The runaway truck ramp multiplies the force the longer the vehicle goes down the ramp with the multiple fences. You're right that it would stop the car quicker however not to the point like a concrete well. The passengers would be just fine. A 4,500-pound vehicle hitting a 30' wide net at a speed of 62 mph will stop in approximately 83' with an average deceleration of approximately 1.6 g's.
Cool. The highway version of an aircraft carrier's arresting cables.
Can I use this if my car won't stop?
What ? Dude, just put tour car on a lower gear and that's all you need to do.
This destroyed the prime mover whereas the gravel pit does little to no damage and could be used with a different medium that isn’t effected by snow or ice
Who is the narrator?
Rocks for most lets trucks in and out and cost less and as soon as one truck is removed another truck can use it with little down time. This is but one more system... and there are more...
Rocks are 200 meters longer, they don't have this much space. This system is shorter and safer.
Lankster Price The video itself stated that in the cold weather the rocks dont work very effectively
Good job Bashar Al Assad... When did you start engineering?
Allah akhbar
some ramps are pretty cool,,,
Was the truck totaled or was it able to be fixed
Our dealership wrote it off bent frame but I didnt tell you
They tried to make the video more dramatic by editing the snot out of it. Except for the distant "spectator video", we don't get to see a full shot of the crash from beggining to end. Just random clips all spliced together and jumping back and forth between each other.
Good video!
Insurance Companies should give Bonus Discounts to those who use the Brake Check area and be reimbursed by the Government. A WIN WIN
This is great if you have only 1 truck with a break problem. What happens if another truck is behind the first truck. I guess 2nd guy is just SOL. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ or he runs into the back of the first truck.
good to know that truck drivers are safe.
why was the truck pulled towards the wall? Are these trucks going downhill way too fast? Cut their speed by 60%.
soooo does jake brake not help or what.
Not for that purpose they only help maintain speed cats are useless
Masterful blue balling
thats a nice setup just hate to damage the front end of the truck. and hopefully theres not a broke down car parked in the way
I say have 3-4, mile before intersection have on local radio recording. Telling drivers what friendly steps can be optional and taken.
Have no secrets
Keep all drivers new and older always aware before hand.
Explain the tap system on the recording. So the driver knows.
hey its Barbara Budd. Voice from discovery channels mighty ships and many more shows.
What would happen if another truck came before they could reset it?
I would say they would run like hell
Years ago before we had the catch net system put in there was alot of run away trucks cars and RVs one RV came all the to Buffalo and crashed into a mall killed all the people in it
If space permits, I would think a gravel bed would be better and result in less damage and may even be less costly and time consuming to return it to operational status. Admittedly, I'm not an engineer in this area. The arrestor type is better than nothing at tall, but a 4-5 hr reset time raises the cost and from this video, damage. Once the truck was captured by the arrestor cables, steering control was lost because the loaded trailer is trying to continue its forward momentum. There's no arresting capability for the tandems in a cable type system. I can see where a jackknifed rig could result. With gravel, the tandems also encounter resistance and help reduce stopping distance but steering control is also reduced.
As they said in the video, the gravel type arrester bed would freeze in the winter, with the weather that can occur in that part of Canada any truck going into that would be hitting a skating rink, not loose gravel or stone.
I live there, almost. Been driving past that ramp for 25 years now and never needed it nor did I see it be used.
Theyre not really what you'd call drivers nowdays Rick.
Технологии 90-ых ?
That one guy explaining looks like Dwight schrute on the series office
Definitely 😂
need those on mountains somehow
The old system stopped many trucks without the damage this new system creates. Not to mention the astronomical cost
they charge for the privilege of it's use.
How would like going the other way when someone used this and wound up with a 2 inch gravel stone i your windshield? Yeah they do not use less than 2 inch stone in those rock ones, so they do more damage than you see and if you watch the gravel test it also tosses the control of the truck to one side not to mention the bouncing it did. Also look up "box truck getting flipped on runaway" when using said gravel ramp. And yes snow turning to water and freezes up where it snows and rains even if an area it gets cold enough to freeze, gravel becomes SOLID.
The truck was ruined and what if there was another truck with no brakes in the next two to three hours?
they close the highway to trucks while they reset the catch system
I think minor damage to a truck is better than risking a few lives.
I didn't say it was a smart thing to do but that's what the MTO has decided. When a truck uses the runaway ramp they close it to big truck while they take a hour or so to reset the system
This is bad design because all the stopping force is applied at the very front of the vehicle. If the load isn’t perfectly strapped down it could be sent flying into the driver cab due to inertia. The river rock runaway ramps are better since the stopping force is spread across all axles.
god i hope nobody has to use it while they're resetting it lol
That's what I was thinking. They had the highway closed for the test itself but if two drivers have brake failure in rapid succession while the ramp is in service, there could be major problems
Yea that's a big issue to be honest
Not to mention cars in that lane? Will they move out of the way? Nope and it totally destroys the tractor
AWESOME
Very interesting technology, but looks expensive and is awful hard on the truck, Couldn't you just build a shelter over the gravel? IE a covered Bridge. So a large barn or shed that would keep the gravel dry and keep the snow out would allow a traditional sand/gravel/rock ramp to work year round. It would also keep rocks from flying out. Pricing out large metal buildings is real easy (barns and airplane hangers are real common.) Basically a pole shed. It would of course need sides for blowing snow, but then as long as the rock is dry, it would work.
They should install them in the USA it's worth it.
There are in fact some in the U.S as of 2020, There's several in Wyoming, I'm not sure how many. Also there's one in Nevada, Over by Lake Tahoe.
Lol, did they say that dragnet setup was used in BC? I've driven through that province for years and never seen any such thing on runaway lanes.
I'm here alot I'm here right now by coachihala I never seen one
Try building a RUBBER PIT, where a pit filled with tire BEEDS used to stop a fully loaded truck... The further the truck goes into the pit the deeper it plunges into the pit... where a cable winch is used to pull out the RIG... safer and less damage to a Truck...
The crazy part is that if you use the run away ramp you get a ticket and I don't think that it's fair for them to do that
Ur right, i think the case should be investigated and if its shown the driver/company have been neglecting vehicle maintenance they should get a BIG ASS ticket but if its a random malfunction that happens sometimes on cars they shouldn't.
Maybe the drivers should slow down and downshift before starting the descent and go slowly and safely down the hill. I know, not nearly as exciting, but less squishy at the bottom!