I was pissed when they drafted petty because I think lisa Anderson was ranked ahead of him. Everyone else wanted cody glass but I didn't see much in him
Me too ahaha. I was expecting Glass or Vilardi, nobody really had Petey on their radar. Benning knew it too, as he was trying hard to trade down and still draft him
@@RobTalksHockey maybe he just knows more than everyone cuz ppl thought juolevi was a good pick. At least I did. And people weren't so sure about boeser and pettey
Correction: Elias started playing in his hometown, Ånge, not Sundsvall or timrå. He and his brother both started up there, they played for Ånges team until they grew of-age to play with the juniors in the bigger city (Sundsvall/Timrå). But they kept living at home and developing in Ånge also. They both spent tons of their younger years practicing their talent in their hometown Ånge.
I do belive that Allsvenskan is underetimated abroad, it's still profesional grown men. To dominate that as a teenager is something special. Way more impresive than any farming leuge imo
@@kianruda3292 I still have my doubts about Pod... I'm not going to buy in until he starts playing in North America. The Canucks have had rotten luck with Russian draft picks since Pavel Bure. Name a significant Russian player drafted by Vancouver after Bure. I'm actually curious...
@@MrPeabody67 And Bure turned out to be a bit of a headache even after we tore up his contract. They don't do that anymore. Overall, if there is a coin toss between a Russian or someone else I'd take the someone else.
As a devils fan, I'm really happy with Hischier, love how he took another step forward when Hall was traded. He is really really really solid player for the devils.
I'm in Halifax - we knew Nico was special from day 1, was an offensive BEAST at Junior level, just 1 season in the Q and bam, #1 pick. He should prove to be solid for you for years to come, I know to some his numbers may appear underwhelming at the mo, but as soon as you guys improve his numbers should slingshot upward on the back of that.
yeah that was a good pick no doubt espicially now you guys got jack hughes who is a franchiese elite player, we got quinn n petey, if u guys picked petey and got j hughes that would be insanely op, but as a nuck fan im thankful we got him lol, id do anything to get jack n quinn to both be nucks but ik 110% devils will NEVER let him go, id trade boeser and a draft pick for j hughes lol which is pretty good boeser is a franchiese deffs Elite player
Great video! Congratulations on over 100,000 view count! As a third generation Vancouver resident i have been waiting for Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes my whole life. As Local reporter "Drancer" has said recently only 2 other teams in the last generation have had back to back top draft picks. The first is Pittsburgh with Crosby and Malkin and the other is the backhawks drafting Kane and Towes. The difference is that both those teams drafted top forwards back to back but what sets Vancouver apart is that no team has ever drafted a #1 center and a #1 Dman back to back except the Vancouver Canucks! Enjoy the next 10 years Canucks fans, i know i will!
Its literally always Gradin. The idea that Benning is some sort of genius in picking Petersson is absurd. Especially when he is decidedly the opposite of a genius when it comes to making trades. Give him credit for signing off on it.
@@czarii2422 dont know. GMing entails lots of different tasks/jobs. Gradin has always been good at scouting Sweden. Red Wings also have someone in Sweden whos quite good. This gives them a leg up on other teams that either dont have a presence or not as competent of a presence.
@@tylerbruce5731 Interesting. im just a lowly bruins fan who didnt know about what he actually does in the organization. Our Czech scouts have been great at scouting guys like pasta and krejci, so every team has its strengths.
Benning is known for his scouting ability. That was the main thing we were all told when he signed him, so to say he had nothing to do with picking him is quite absurd. He knows what is going on when it comes to the draft. And he has made some very good trades as well.
Go Canucks Go. I like the way our team is coming. I did not expect this for another year in the rebuild. True fan for 50 years. Still have my jacket from season 1.
Rob your videos are improving so much. I've been watching for a while and this could be your most well put together video. Big props man. Keep up the good work
Imo, Elias Petterson is like the Stephen Curry of the NHL. What he lacks in size, he makes up in masterful skill and offensive talent. Quinn Hughes falls in this category as well.
I have to give props to you for saying "Allsvenskan" ("the Allsvenska") and not "the Allsvenskan", which would translate to "the the Allsvenska". The "n" at the end is a definite determiner equivalent to "the". Don't know if it's just a happy accident or if you knew that.
I'm just so glad Petey fell into our lap. Absolute gem of a player. This next upcoming decade will yield multiple Stanley Cup championships for the Canucks. I'm calling it now.
@@jogendron6320 sisters. Yeah the same Sedins who one of them got his teeth knocked out, went to the bench, dropped off his teeth and continue. More man or woman than you will ever be. See? In this society when you are polite... U get called a wuss! They would still be able to kill you though. Don't forget that
Pettersson had a pretty poor U20 tournament while Hischier was very dominant. I'm from Sweden and I remember being very disappointed, because he was our main non-drafted prospect. Heiskanen were super hyped, and the scouts must have seen Makar's potential. It's not like they were wrong about Makar. I think Pettersson caught most of us off guard in terms of how much he would improve. Nolan Patrick was a huge wild card. I was always sceptical towards him. He hadn't really proven much, but he was selected early because he was supposed to be the 1st pick. I'm sceptical to Makar being picked before too, but Colorado must have had a good read. Picking Hischier and Heiskanen before Pettersson made perfect sense though, at the time, and they were not bad picks either, and certainly safer picks.
Looking back at this is interesting. As an avs fan, I’m pretty happy we drafted Makar, but hischier, Peterson, and heiskanen all still look like good picks as well
I have watched this kid since he formed Timrå ik a duo togather with Ulf Dahlen ( former NHL player) kid Jonathan Dahlen. Even though Pettersson was thin he was strong and handle the puck blindly and had a suprising good shot, superb technique and his effortless skating was already insane back then. Im glad that the Canucks fans can go watch hockey and magic at the same time. But i do hope that he will end his career where it started it Timrå IK ( dont say he's from Sundsvall ) Timrå is a small town 25 km north of Sundsvall and WE TIK FANS hate that. There used to be a fierce rivalry between TIK and Sundsvall Hockey and that never goes away. Anyway congrats Canucks, from a Timrå IK and a Blackhawks fan!
Fast forward a couple years from when this was posted and while EP40 is turning into a monster centre Makar is such a unique and dominant dman that you have to take him first. He's the best we've seen since Lidstrom.
I think it would go Heiskanen, EP, then Makar reasoning is that a franchise dman is hard to come by and Heiskanen fits that description, then EP just cause he’s a 1C
sweetie lune I don’t, COL is hardly shown in Van but Makar passes the looking test but Heiskanen and Hughes are already better two way defenders if you look at the advanced stats
He’s a complete player. Already a superstar, skill wise he’s peter forsberg with a ridiculous shot. If he puts on a bit more muscle he’s gonna be unstoppable. He’s a good two way player as well surprisingly.
What is Pettersson’s potential? On a side note, please dismiss that Patrick’s migraine disorder is connected to concussion history. I read an article that was speculating. It is hereditary.
If you're a fan of one of those 4 teams dont feel bad. My Kings picked Forbort the pick before Tarasenko, who was just traded for a conditional 4th rounder
Cale has been a stud for us this season. Also the avs needed a defensemen because our defense sucked that season. That’s why we were last in the league
Yeah, but the Canucks will never get to draft like Colorado. 50 years, still haven't had a first overall, except for the one they traded for to flip to Atlanta for the Sedins. Colorado gets MacKinnon, Makar and now Byram? Lucky, I guess.
I don’t blame the Devils for taking Hischier. He is a two-way center they desperately needed at the time. Before him they had a top two center core of Henrique and an aging Zajac. I’m still happy with the player they picked
For today's (and future) NHL I would've picked Heiskanen and Makar over Pettersson as the defence competency is becoming more and more important asset. Maple Leafs is good example of uselessness of forwards when D isn't competent enough. On the other hand STL blues isn't as offensive as Leafs, Oilers or Vancouver, but they dominate playoffs. Offence dominates regular season. Defence does that in playoffs.
We have a pretty competent defensemen who’s name escapes me currently but he was in the 2020 all stars thing and Gretzky himself commented saying “that young boy is a defensemen.. he has better hands then I did” while I agree two stars does not a team make we have a pretty decent foundation to build on and if we get some more solid players to help back up the young upstarts we might have a shot at the 2023-2025 cups
Oh boy, watching this in 2022 kinda hurts considering that people were comparing him to Gretzky, i think that he still has it in him, but he became invisible
I don't care what you say or how you build up Pettersson. Devils made the perfect choice for our team and Hischier is awesome. Wouldn't change a thing with a re-draft.
lol how'd you come to that conclusion? Hischier's good but Pettersson's way better. You'd be crazy to pass on Pettersson (or Makar) for Nico in a re-draft.
@@marcol9936 says you. That's an opinion bud. My opinion is they made the right choice for them. Hischier is turning into a top two way center. That's how he plays the game. Durable, smart, team first guy with great leadership. When Green retires after this season the C is going to Nico and he is personifies what it is to be a NJ Devil.
@@Acolonnelli71 you want me to support my opinion with objective data? Sure. Both regular stats and advanced stats back up my opinion. This season... Pettersson: 41 points in 40 games +9.3 CF% Rel 56.68 xGF% +13.9 GAR +2.4 WAR Hischier: 23 points in 34 games +2.52 CF% Rel 51.4 xGF% +5.2 GAR +0.9 WAR Both good players, but Pettersson is significantly better. Now let's see you objectively back up your opinion, other than saying "he personifies what it's like to be a Devil." That's not a reason at all.
Marco L also oddly enough the teams overall corsi stats were boosted decently after hall was traded, guys stepped up including hischier who wasn’t playing to his true potential with hall
Its hard to judge which player is gonna take to the NHL quick and effective. I feel that all 5 of these players are going to have long and successful careers and as much as the stats stand out as a reason to draft players, Im sure there are a bunch of other scoutable qualities including how they fit into each teams’ system. Im a Flyers fan and I have been very happy with Patrick and even though he does have this hereditary illness, I feel he will be a core part in the Flyers success for years to come. He fits the build well and hes a joy to watch. Just really ready for hockey to be back
Hischier is still a good pick. Worse than the other 3, for sure, but nothing like Nolan Patrick who seems to be just short of a real bust, especially with his concussion issues now.
SaintsFan 09 Fair. Hischier’s solid. I guess we’ve just been spoiled with the talents 1st picks in recent years. I personally would still take Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson over him. Patrick wouldn’t even be top 10 for me
No, New Jersey was the worst team in the top 5. That's why they picked first. Anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, who was unfortunate enough to be picked by the Devils would be sucking ass too. Say the Devils picked Petterson and Vancouver picked Hischier and you would instead be talking about how awesome Hischier is and how bad Petterson stinks. Anybody with a brain would want traded out of New Jersey. Anybody would struggle in Jersey. The Devils suck and that's not down to one player.
if you look at the 12 points leaders ahead of Petey in the standings, how many of them play D half the game? You look at a guy like Leon Draisaitl; it's like wow he has 61 points! But he's a -18... has the most points scored on him out of anyone. Petey is no glass cannon, he plays a full 200 foot game. Dude would be a goalie if he needed to.
100%, not to mention the development a player goes through in their first 3-4 seasons. Pettersson has the potential to be a dominant 100 Pt player who has a 200ft game...
Random Videos No it’s not. Research why plus minus is bad please. We can start with Plus Minus does not count a teams powerplay goals (and if I recall that’s really important to winning a game lol)
By that logic, most of the players on Vancouver are better than Connor McDavid because he has a -6 rating... It couldn't possibly be that Edmontons goaltending and defense are horrible...
It's very hard to compare makar and Peterson as they play different positions. Makar at his age and performance thus far is demonstrating he is on track to be franchise defenceman. Exactly what Colorado was looking for.
I miss Vancouver. I worked in Richmond and lived in Nanaimo. I was always out in the bush though and got home on weekends. Loved BC. Based in Bella coola for a while.
Nico may not have had an explosion to start his career, but he is looking more and more like the dominant centerman he was drafted as at #1. If you didn't watch his game from december onward, go take a look. He is going to be a Selke winner one day, he is that good.
Considering petterson is a point per game first line center, and makar is a defenceman just below a point per game, I’m gonna take the 21 year old defender every time point per game defenceman.
Well, this is the eternal question - what do you draft for? Do you draft for the best player available or for the best player available for the needs your team has (center vs. winger vs. defender vs. goalie)? The Avs and the Stars obviously needed defense - and both ended up with generational defenders - a friend of mine was a coach of Heiskanen and his former coach is not surprised at all about his on-ice development. Hischier was just unlucky that he ended up with the worst managed team in the last few seasons - where to start with??? Patrick also had his share of bad luck and we all hope he will be fine in the end and that he has a sincere chance to show what's in him! Good luck Nolan!
@@Imtotallydiggingthis - you are correct. Nevertheless, I would like to see a defender being picked first! It would take a lot of guts from an organization or a clear superiority for a defender to be picked #1. Out of the last 20 drafts - 15 #1 were forwards, 3 defenders and two goalies. Ice hockey is about people, their skills, their talents and most of all character. You draft for character and attitude and you practice for skills. But since it is about people - it is always about soft factors. This means it is kind of a lottery - while a lottery you can do a lot of research about in advance. And still you can't take out the factors which are out of your control (injuries etc.(one bad hit and your #1 pick goes down the toilet)).
@@Imtotallydiggingthis Good point about defenders developing later... The draft is one thing - what an organization makes out of it is a whole different story! I have several friends who used to play in the NHL - even with some rings and so. And all tell me that it is always discipline over talent. There is no chance you are going anywhere without the highest level of discipline. You might get in there - but you won't last. Daigle is an unfortunate case of "being told he is the greatest" - so he started to believe the gospel and stopped working hard and developing. The tricks which work in lower leagues might not work against a 6.3 foot, 220 pound defender... on top, the goalies are so much better in NHL levels. Modern hockey has, unfortunately, become a bit boring - too much system and very little room for creativity. Many coaches are overcoaching their teams because they need success. Because if they don't have success, they won't keep a job for long. And this is why they all try to keep the puck out of the goal - which is much easier than to put it into the goal. Professional teams have analysts for everything - the player has become a glass athlete. The doctors can tell you within days if you cheat with your diet or if you are behind with your work out regime. They can measure and analyze anything - except they cannot analyze creativity. And you can't simulate creativity (how will you perform under pressure). So coaches and managers go with the obvious - data and points. Because they can hide behind data and say (in case a #1 pick busts) - "I did all the research and we had to go with that player". Heiskanen has a great character for coaches - he obviously goes on the ice each practice with a plan and the attitude "today I become a better player". Hischier, on the other hand, is a perfect case of how a frightened coach can literally coach talent out of a super creative center just to make him an (unnatural) two-way center. The Daigle and Hischier examples are two very good examples of how important your environment is. How do your parents, your manager and your teammates support you when you make it into the league and end up with a bad coach who tells you to play outside your comfort zone. As a 19-year-old, you are very quickly impressed and give up on what you believe in because you 7 analysts telling you every inch you skated or didn't skate. Mentoring is just as important for a young player. If you talk to a retired player, they will many times tell you that they had that one older teammate who helped them with the things besides the puck... Good teams are the perfect blend of several good players - other teams just have individual stars who won't win a flower pot. Even Mc David could end up without a cup. Which shifts the focus away from the player draft to management which decides over player development, scouting, coaching, support systems etc.
Peterson reminds me alot of Mitch Marner. Both were underrated in their draft and turned out to be one of the best in the nhl. Great pick for the nucks.
@@Dragon_Fyre Yea but what i meant was that he was underrated compared to the people after him. It was projected that some others would go ahead of him in the draft. And everyone was suprised that they picked Marner over other players.
I am a big fan of Hischier, I love his playing style. But Pettersson is among the top players in the entire NHL for his 2 way game. His advanced stats are insane at the moment.
Some faults in this video. He is born and raised in a small vilage about 100 km from Sundsvall that called Ånge, same place that Samuel Påhlsson former Ducksplayer was born and raised in
First pick was a decision between Nico and Nolan, second pick was whoever wasn’t picked. As a Flyers fan, I would’ve been pissed if we took anyone besides Nico or Nolan. After that it was kinda a gimme. Makar and Heiskanen were both good picks, and Vancouver fans were also upset with the Pettersson pick. Vilardi was supposed to go higher, possibly 5th. It’s all just circumstance.
@@samslone9457 - even if get in at 8 seed will be a victory. and to be honest, I actually think we can knock out big bag blues. We have already abused them twice this season!
The sky is truly the limit....top 5 .....he is so smart & add in awesome hockey skills & one day in the future we will see his name on the “ring of honour” maybe even better than Bure? Time will tell.....
Bure is my hero. And I bleed Canuck. He may be a better played overall. But I don't know about the best goal scorer against Bure. 60 back to back seasons is hard to beat. Especially in this 2019 nhl with mutant goalies! Lol
Yah but Bure was selected like 110th overall... then wins the Calder trophy in 91-92... every single time the Russian rocket touched a puck... people sensed a goal about to happen. And largely came out of no where as far as the hockey scene was concerned.
i cant doubt Petterssons value but Heiskanen is definitely the best pick from this draft, and Hischier has the talent to easily end up being as good as Pettersson
What's crazy is if you look at his stats he has more HITS than everybody in the league who has more points than him. I believe he sits just outside the top ten in scoring
"Hits" stats are pretty useless, because it is so subjective. (Same as the "giveaway/takeaway"stat. There are dozens and dozens of "changes of possession" in a game but maybe only 4 or 5 takeaway/giveaways scored. I've seen guys give the puck away three times on one shift but the official scorer has them down as one for the whole game.)Every game contains hundreds of hits while the stats may show it being 10-7. There are specific arenas where the house statistician will always have more or less hits counted on a consistent basis, regardless of who is playing (nothing to do with home town bias).
@@stupidas9466 your right that's very true it's not a hugely important stat at all because like you said it's subjective but I still think that says something about his game that many people don't realize because this season while watching him I have noticed he's actually been taking runs at guys. He's becoming very good at taking the body just enough to open up space for his stick which is where his magic is both on offensive and defensive tasks
Hischier and Patrick shouldn’t have been drafted before him. Heiskanen and Makar both make sense to be drafted before him though. Both have shown elite potential
Blessing in disguise...I remember being so pissed when Canucks dropped in the draft
Glad it happened now
I was pissed when they drafted petty because I think lisa Anderson was ranked ahead of him. Everyone else wanted cody glass but I didn't see much in him
Me too ahaha. I was expecting Glass or Vilardi, nobody really had Petey on their radar. Benning knew it too, as he was trying hard to trade down and still draft him
@@RobTalksHockey maybe he just knows more than everyone cuz ppl thought juolevi was a good pick. At least I did. And people weren't so sure about boeser and pettey
Benning said he would’ve taken Petey regardless of where they were picking if he was on the board and it was their pick he was a Canuck
Kieran Williams same thing with me and the leafs with marner i was praying that we would draft dylan strome... god we didn’t
I played with Elias at home in sundsvall when we both are at same age. And he is so nice and hes hockey is just magic since he was 10 years old!
LIE
@@JasonBlackburn_02 No
@@JasonBlackburn_02 nah it sounds right, my dad was friend with Jacob Markströms dad, nhl players also had a life as kids and friends
@@deadmanbardii your 5 month late idiot
@@JasonBlackburn_02 lol sure, who is the idiot here
Remember when Canucks fans booed when they chose pettersson? Lol
they all want Cody Glass!
Nucks fans are the worst.
People should really just zip it and because its embarrassing when the player turns out great
Not this fan here! I was happy we got him. I didn't know he was going to become the player that he has but I wanted him more than Cody Glass.
Shawn Kueppers Naw, nowhere near Leafs and Habs fans ...😳🙄
Correction: Elias started playing in his hometown, Ånge, not Sundsvall or timrå. He and his brother both started up there, they played for Ånges team until they grew of-age to play with the juniors in the bigger city (Sundsvall/Timrå). But they kept living at home and developing in Ånge also. They both spent tons of their younger years practicing their talent in their hometown Ånge.
The flyers have said the migraine disorder isn't concussion-related, its hereditary. Nolan isn't the only one in his family who has this illness.
Thank you! I must’ve read an early article speculating.
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I actually think that makes it worse.
I do belive that Allsvenskan is underetimated abroad, it's still profesional grown men. To dominate that as a teenager is something special. Way more impresive than any farming leuge imo
This kid is nuts, been seeing him play and he already one of the more skilled players on the Canucks.
Definitely putting Vancouver on my radar.
is the most skilled player on the canucks***
We won’t win a cup the last time we were close we lost 11-3 I think
Injury prone but really good
Vancouver has one hell of a player coming in Nils Höglander.
id love to be a canucks fan right now
and podkozin
@@kianruda3292 I still have my doubts about Pod... I'm not going to buy in until he starts playing in North America. The Canucks have had rotten luck with Russian draft picks since Pavel Bure.
Name a significant Russian player drafted by Vancouver after Bure. I'm actually curious...
@@MrPeabody67 And Bure turned out to be a bit of a headache even after we tore up his contract. They don't do that anymore. Overall, if there is a coin toss between a Russian or someone else I'd take the someone else.
@@Roof_Pizza Russians are defientely the most unpredictable. Usually skilled but often totally uncoachable.
Gotta say Heiskanen is already elite.
Eliaselite !
Because everyone was like "MEH HE IS TOOOO SMALL"
@@nkcrecords247 He means more weight-wise than actual height
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He still is!
As a devils fan, I'm really happy with Hischier, love how he took another step forward when Hall was traded. He is really really really solid player for the devils.
I'm in Halifax - we knew Nico was special from day 1, was an offensive BEAST at Junior level, just 1 season in the Q and bam, #1 pick. He should prove to be solid for you for years to come, I know to some his numbers may appear underwhelming at the mo, but as soon as you guys improve his numbers should slingshot upward on the back of that.
@@ernietubeofglass3999 yea he was on fire in the month of January and February and then he had an injury, I hope he breaks out next season.
@@WildWolf_-iu4zk I’m a ranger fan I’m happy with kakko
@@hockey9196 ok?
yeah that was a good pick no doubt espicially now you guys got jack hughes who is a franchiese elite player, we got quinn n petey, if u guys picked petey and got j hughes that would be insanely op, but as a nuck fan im thankful we got him lol, id do anything to get jack n quinn to both be nucks but ik 110% devils will NEVER let him go, id trade boeser and a draft pick for j hughes lol which is pretty good boeser is a franchiese deffs Elite player
Pettersson's 41 pts in 43 games is the highest point total by any draft eligible player in allsvenskan history
Great video! Congratulations on over 100,000 view count! As a third generation Vancouver resident i have been waiting for Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes my whole life. As Local reporter "Drancer" has said recently only 2 other teams in the last generation have had back to back top draft picks. The first is Pittsburgh with Crosby and Malkin and the other is the backhawks drafting Kane and Towes. The difference is that both those teams drafted top forwards back to back but what sets Vancouver apart is that no team has ever drafted a #1 center and a #1 Dman back to back except the Vancouver Canucks! Enjoy the next 10 years Canucks fans, i know i will!
Actually it was Thomas Gradin that kept an eye on Peterson and told Canucks to draft him and not worry about his size
Its literally always Gradin. The idea that Benning is some sort of genius in picking Petersson is absurd.
Especially when he is decidedly the opposite of a genius when it comes to making trades.
Give him credit for signing off on it.
@@tylerbruce5731 Never watch the canucks, but would that guy make a good benning replacement?
@@czarii2422 dont know. GMing entails lots of different tasks/jobs. Gradin has always been good at scouting Sweden.
Red Wings also have someone in Sweden whos quite good.
This gives them a leg up on other teams that either dont have a presence or not as competent of a presence.
@@tylerbruce5731 Interesting. im just a lowly bruins fan who didnt know about what he actually does in the organization. Our Czech scouts have been great at scouting guys like pasta and krejci, so every team has its strengths.
Benning is known for his scouting ability. That was the main thing we were all told when he signed him, so to say he had nothing to do with picking him is quite absurd. He knows what is going on when it comes to the draft. And he has made some very good trades as well.
Go Canucks Go. I like the way our team is coming. I did not expect this for another year in the rebuild. True fan for 50 years. Still have my jacket from season 1.
Rob your videos are improving so much. I've been watching for a while and this could be your most well put together video. Big props man. Keep up the good work
Red Redmon that’s so true
Thanks man! That’s means a lot
Yeah but dont explain what youre going to explain. Just get to it already.
Pettersson and Hughes are going to put on a show for Vancouver fans a show for the next decade+.
AxionXIII boeser
To Release is To Resolve Indeed, as long as the ice stays tilted towards US markets...
I can see Makar and Heiskenen being drafted ahead of Petterson. Makar is an absolute stud
I can see why you failed grade school,and why your parents don't love you!
@@JayCanuck007 - LOL
A redraft today would either be Makar or Petterson at number one slot
@@sandler07 or heiskanen
Makar was number one on some scout's lists. I'm just glad he's an Av because they look a different animal with him back there.
Imo, Elias Petterson is like the Stephen Curry of the NHL. What he lacks in size, he makes up in masterful skill and offensive talent.
Quinn Hughes falls in this category as well.
And Erik Karlsson
I remember my dad was pissed during the draft and thought the Canucks should’ve drafted Cody Glass
I have to give props to you for saying "Allsvenskan" ("the Allsvenska") and not "the Allsvenskan", which would translate to "the the Allsvenska". The "n" at the end is a definite determiner equivalent to "the". Don't know if it's just a happy accident or if you knew that.
Hahaha happy accident. No I’ve read my share articles and assumed
Now I wish I’d payed attention when my Granny and my Dad tried to teach me a little Swedish - or should I say: “Svensk”?
@@glenholmgren1218 In this case swedish (the language) "svenska". But "a swede" = "en svensk".
Stockholm Syndrome Right. See, I told you I should have paid attention! 🤷♂️🤦🏼♂️🤣
@@glenholmgren1218 Kudos to granny for trying!
I'm just so glad Petey fell into our lap. Absolute gem of a player. This next upcoming decade will yield multiple Stanley Cup championships for the Canucks. I'm calling it now.
damn i hope so too
Yes let's hope
@@cantalopedrank8697 - just won 5 straight and second in division. And we are YOUNG and HUNGRY. JT Miller has also been awesome so fsr
Just like you called Stanley Cups with the Sisters eh?😂😂😂
@@jogendron6320 sisters. Yeah the same Sedins who one of them got his teeth knocked out, went to the bench, dropped off his teeth and continue. More man or woman than you will ever be. See? In this society when you are polite... U get called a wuss! They would still be able to kill you though. Don't forget that
Pettersson had a pretty poor U20 tournament while Hischier was very dominant. I'm from Sweden and I remember being very disappointed, because he was our main non-drafted prospect. Heiskanen were super hyped, and the scouts must have seen Makar's potential. It's not like they were wrong about Makar. I think Pettersson caught most of us off guard in terms of how much he would improve. Nolan Patrick was a huge wild card. I was always sceptical towards him. He hadn't really proven much, but he was selected early because he was supposed to be the 1st pick. I'm sceptical to Makar being picked before too, but Colorado must have had a good read. Picking Hischier and Heiskanen before Pettersson made perfect sense though, at the time, and they were not bad picks either, and certainly safer picks.
pite9 good points. But if it we where picking the 1st overall today, it would have been Pettersson without any doubt
Looking back at this is interesting. As an avs fan, I’m pretty happy we drafted Makar, but hischier, Peterson, and heiskanen all still look like good picks as well
You missed that he got the most points as an rookie in Vancouvers franchise history.
I think he went tied with Bure, or lost by a few points
@@zilvertron th-cam.com/video/tITtKZn0w_U/w-d-xo.html
Ive been watching hockey for 20 years, and Elias honestly is one of the 8-10 players that have really given me that 'wow' factor
Ok then 😂
Heiskanen has the potential to be the best defenseman in NHL.
Yup and he is very fast
ardemua him and makar and Hughes are next generation.
Makar is better.
Rasmus Dahlin.
@@B-a-s-i get lost
I have watched this kid since he formed Timrå ik a duo togather with Ulf Dahlen ( former NHL player) kid Jonathan Dahlen. Even though Pettersson was thin he was strong and handle the puck blindly and had a suprising good shot, superb technique and his effortless skating was already insane back then. Im glad that the Canucks fans can go watch hockey and magic at the same time. But i do hope that he will end his career where it started it Timrå IK ( dont say he's from Sundsvall ) Timrå is a small town 25 km north of Sundsvall and WE TIK FANS hate that. There used to be a fierce rivalry between TIK and Sundsvall Hockey and that never goes away. Anyway congrats Canucks, from a Timrå IK and a Blackhawks fan!
Rob: " I would still take Pettersson over Cale Makar."
Makar, winning the Norris and the Conn Smythe: "Are you suuuuuure?"
🤦🏻
Fast forward a couple years from when this was posted and while EP40 is turning into a monster centre Makar is such a unique and dominant dman that you have to take him first. He's the best we've seen since Lidstrom.
What a ridiculously well-researched video this is.
Great job. Subbed.
Thank you! Appreciate that
I'm still back and forth on my favourite moment. That blocked shot for a breakaway goal is hard to overlook.
I'm a Boston fan but I like watch Elias
A Boston fan with a Edmonton thumbnail liking a Vancouver player. Had to press the like button;)
Darcy Dhillon sorry to hear that :/
If you’d re-draft. Top 3 would be Hieskinan, Makar and Petterson, In no particular order.
I think it would go Heiskanen, EP, then Makar reasoning is that a franchise dman is hard to come by and Heiskanen fits that description, then EP just cause he’s a 1C
TheDirtyDizzler you obviously don’t watch the Avalanche
sweetie lune I don’t, COL is hardly shown in Van but Makar passes the looking test but Heiskanen and Hughes are already better two way defenders if you look at the advanced stats
Petterson first ffs
@@mattycanz a franchise center like Pettersson is much more desirable in todays NHL.
He’s a complete player. Already a superstar, skill wise he’s peter forsberg with a ridiculous shot. If he puts on a bit more muscle he’s gonna be unstoppable. He’s a good two way player as well surprisingly.
What is Pettersson’s potential? On a side note, please dismiss that Patrick’s migraine disorder is connected to concussion history. I read an article that was speculating. It is hereditary.
He's going to be a top 5 player in the league by the time he's 25. Absolute star in the making
@@redredmon8833 maybe not top 5 but top 10 for sure
Franchise player for Vancouver and a top 7 of the league in the future
I love our videos
@@mediatok2465 Ill give that a solid 5/7
102.4 mph at 176 lbs.🤤
If you're a fan of one of those 4 teams dont feel bad. My Kings picked Forbort the pick before Tarasenko, who was just traded for a conditional 4th rounder
we picked Makar how can we feel bad.
Cale has been a stud for us this season. Also the avs needed a defensemen because our defense sucked that season. That’s why we were last in the league
Cale is an absolute stud!
Imagine if your 1 - 2 punch down the middle was Mackinnon and Pettersson. Maybe not quite on the level of Crosby and Malkin, but not super far off...
Yea
Yeah, but the Canucks will never get to draft like Colorado.
50 years, still haven't had a first overall, except for the one they traded for to flip to Atlanta for the Sedins.
Colorado gets MacKinnon, Makar and now Byram?
Lucky, I guess.
I don’t blame the Devils for taking Hischier. He is a two-way center they desperately needed at the time. Before him they had a top two center core of Henrique and an aging Zajac. I’m still happy with the player they picked
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For today's (and future) NHL I would've picked Heiskanen and Makar over Pettersson as the defence competency is becoming more and more important asset.
Maple Leafs is good example of uselessness of forwards when D isn't competent enough. On the other hand STL blues isn't as offensive as Leafs, Oilers or Vancouver, but they dominate playoffs.
Offence dominates regular season. Defence does that in playoffs.
We have a pretty competent defensemen who’s name escapes me currently but he was in the 2020 all stars thing and Gretzky himself commented saying “that young boy is a defensemen.. he has better hands then I did” while I agree two stars does not a team make we have a pretty decent foundation to build on and if we get some more solid players to help back up the young upstarts we might have a shot at the 2023-2025 cups
@@jameson1239 Quinn Hughes
Gabriel Wan there we go thank you
Im a Leafs fan but i always hope the Canucks do well and their players happy new years everyone
im a leafs and fuck the canucks they can die in a fire
Anyone notice how Pettersson is taking runs at people? At this rate he'll be a power forward in 3 years ;)
Oh I have, and I love it!
Or permanently finished in NHL.
Took one at Giordano the other day
He is a Peter Forsberg but witth style...
@@pkvarntun He isnt fit to wipe Peter Forsbergs ass. There is no comparison between the two.
Oh boy, watching this in 2022 kinda hurts considering that people were comparing him to Gretzky, i think that he still has it in him, but he became invisible
Great video man. a lot of great information in there. Keep it up!!
Thanks man!
I don't care what you say or how you build up Pettersson. Devils made the perfect choice for our team and Hischier is awesome. Wouldn't change a thing with a re-draft.
lol how'd you come to that conclusion? Hischier's good but Pettersson's way better. You'd be crazy to pass on Pettersson (or Makar) for Nico in a re-draft.
@@marcol9936 says you. That's an opinion bud. My opinion is they made the right choice for them. Hischier is turning into a top two way center. That's how he plays the game. Durable, smart, team first guy with great leadership. When Green retires after this season the C is going to Nico and he is personifies what it is to be a NJ Devil.
@@Acolonnelli71 you want me to support my opinion with objective data? Sure. Both regular stats and advanced stats back up my opinion. This season...
Pettersson:
41 points in 40 games
+9.3 CF% Rel
56.68 xGF%
+13.9 GAR
+2.4 WAR
Hischier:
23 points in 34 games
+2.52 CF% Rel
51.4 xGF%
+5.2 GAR
+0.9 WAR
Both good players, but Pettersson is significantly better. Now let's see you objectively back up your opinion, other than saying "he personifies what it's like to be a Devil." That's not a reason at all.
Marco L the only thing to say is the devils are second last so
Marco L also oddly enough the teams overall corsi stats were boosted decently after hall was traded, guys stepped up including hischier who wasn’t playing to his true potential with hall
Its hard to judge which player is gonna take to the NHL quick and effective. I feel that all 5 of these players are going to have long and successful careers and as much as the stats stand out as a reason to draft players, Im sure there are a bunch of other scoutable qualities including how they fit into each teams’ system. Im a Flyers fan and I have been very happy with Patrick and even though he does have this hereditary illness, I feel he will be a core part in the Flyers success for years to come. He fits the build well and hes a joy to watch. Just really ready for hockey to be back
NJ and Philly got the worst out if the top 5. I think Heiskanen, pettersson and makar were all homeruns
Hischier is still a good pick. Worse than the other 3, for sure, but nothing like Nolan Patrick who seems to be just short of a real bust, especially with his concussion issues now.
I wouldn’t count Nico out bud. Nico is playing much better without hall, he’s driving with the puck not just dumping it off to hall
SaintsFan 09 Fair. Hischier’s solid. I guess we’ve just been spoiled with the talents 1st picks in recent years. I personally would still take Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson over him. Patrick wouldn’t even be top 10 for me
No, New Jersey was the worst team in the top 5. That's why they picked first. Anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, who was unfortunate enough to be picked by the Devils would be sucking ass too. Say the Devils picked Petterson and Vancouver picked Hischier and you would instead be talking about how awesome Hischier is and how bad Petterson stinks. Anybody with a brain would want traded out of New Jersey. Anybody would struggle in Jersey. The Devils suck and that's not down to one player.
Gautamiyer2 it is a migraine problem, it runs in his family, nothing to relate to concussion
I think his wight is to his advantage, he can move faster, more flexible and so on.. He doesn't need to be big because he has the talent..
I agree. Just like Stephen Curry in the NBA, what he lacks in size he makes up in masterful skill and talent
Until Matheson throws him into the ice 😑
Here's an analogy for Petersson - Luka Doncic in the NBA. Sensational player, passed on by other teams and established himself as a star immediately.
Not sure why this showed up in my recommended feed but I'm glad it did.
Big kudos for a vey accurate analysis of the Swedish leagues.
/Swede that played in Allsvenskan
sirulrich88 Vem är du och vilka spelade du med ?
@@doubleT54 Gjorde tre säsonger i Tingsryd som en tredjelinjebrunkare :D
Canucks will be 3rd in the conference this year. everyone still underestimates them. Canucks got a steal.
if you look at the 12 points leaders ahead of Petey in the standings, how many of them play D half the game? You look at a guy like Leon Draisaitl; it's like wow he has 61 points! But he's a -18... has the most points scored on him out of anyone. Petey is no glass cannon, he plays a full 200 foot game. Dude would be a goalie if he needed to.
100%, not to mention the development a player goes through in their first 3-4 seasons. Pettersson has the potential to be a dominant 100 Pt player who has a 200ft game...
Flowmasta Flam Plus Minus ain’t a good stat man. Careful with your bias
preythemouse It can be flawed but being as big a star as leon it isnt hes shown he cant play defence at a high level while producing
Random Videos No it’s not. Research why plus minus is bad please. We can start with Plus Minus does not count a teams powerplay goals (and if I recall that’s really important to winning a game lol)
By that logic, most of the players on Vancouver are better than Connor McDavid because he has a -6 rating... It couldn't possibly be that Edmontons goaltending and defense are horrible...
I love your pronunciation on TIMRÅ and Allsvenskan
Where did u get your dope Canucks light I want one
wicked video and great comparisons
Love these videos
Thanks dude!
It's very hard to compare makar and Peterson as they play different positions. Makar at his age and performance thus far is demonstrating he is on track to be franchise defenceman. Exactly what Colorado was looking for.
Great video rob
Thanks dude!
@@RobTalksHockey ty I did bring up to do video on making of Peterson. Yay I'm not work tomorrow get see game
He’s going to break Pavel Bure’s record next year and become the greatest hockey player in the BC area of all time
he will break bure's record,todays nhl era is so soft unlike when bure played nhl ,it was so tough
Yzerman, Sakic, Anderson, Neely, Price, Kariya, Recchi, Weber, Keith, Seabrook, the Courtnal brothers and Barzal may differ.
I’d argue Heiskenan could be chosen over Peterson if they did a re draft
Definitely, he’s a star already!
On his way to be one of the most dominant defenders in the league
You could definitely make a case for heiskanen over petey now! I'd take either of them. Makar comes 3rd for sure
For sure
I miss Vancouver. I worked in Richmond and lived in Nanaimo. I was always out in the bush though and got home on weekends. Loved BC. Based in Bella coola for a while.
Colorado was already stacked at the forward position but needed to shore up their defense, so they decided to pick cale over elias
I honestly can’t say you didn’t make the right choice still
He also broke peter forsbergs record as well. Most rookie pt scored one season
I knew we should’ve picked him
Nico may not have had an explosion to start his career, but he is looking more and more like the dominant centerman he was drafted as at #1. If you didn't watch his game from december onward, go take a look. He is going to be a Selke winner one day, he is that good.
It’s spooky how much he reminds me of a young (Home Alone era)
Macaulay Culkin .... weird
love these kind of videos!! keep it up.
Thanks man!
Considering petterson is a point per game first line center, and makar is a defenceman just below a point per game, I’m gonna take the 21 year old defender every time point per game defenceman.
Makar is definitely good but the sample size is pretty small. Just remember that this time last year people were saying Petey was better than McDavid.
James Turney well those people are retards
I was very happy we got PETTERSSON
Well, this is the eternal question - what do you draft for?
Do you draft for the best player available or for the best player available for the needs your team has (center vs. winger vs. defender vs. goalie)?
The Avs and the Stars obviously needed defense - and both ended up with generational defenders - a friend of mine was a coach of Heiskanen and his former coach is not surprised at all about his on-ice development. Hischier was just unlucky that he ended up with the worst managed team in the last few seasons - where to start with??? Patrick also had his share of bad luck and we all hope he will be fine in the end and that he has a sincere chance to show what's in him! Good luck Nolan!
@@Imtotallydiggingthis - you are correct. Nevertheless, I would like to see a defender being picked first! It would take a lot of guts from an organization or a clear superiority for a defender to be picked #1. Out of the last 20 drafts - 15 #1 were forwards, 3 defenders and two goalies. Ice hockey is about people, their skills, their talents and most of all character. You draft for character and attitude and you practice for skills. But since it is about people - it is always about soft factors. This means it is kind of a lottery - while a lottery you can do a lot of research about in advance. And still you can't take out the factors which are out of your control (injuries etc.(one bad hit and your #1 pick goes down the toilet)).
@@Imtotallydiggingthis Good point about defenders developing later...
The draft is one thing - what an organization makes out of it is a whole different story!
I have several friends who used to play in the NHL - even with some rings and so. And all tell me that it is always discipline over talent. There is no chance you are going anywhere without the highest level of discipline. You might get in there - but you won't last.
Daigle is an unfortunate case of "being told he is the greatest" - so he started to believe the gospel and stopped working hard and developing. The tricks which work in lower leagues might not work against a 6.3 foot, 220 pound defender... on top, the goalies are so much better in NHL levels.
Modern hockey has, unfortunately, become a bit boring - too much system and very little room for creativity. Many coaches are overcoaching their teams because they need success. Because if they don't have success, they won't keep a job for long. And this is why they all try to keep the puck out of the goal - which is much easier than to put it into the goal.
Professional teams have analysts for everything - the player has become a glass athlete. The doctors can tell you within days if you cheat with your diet or if you are behind with your work out regime. They can measure and analyze anything - except they cannot analyze creativity. And you can't simulate creativity (how will you perform under pressure). So coaches and managers go with the obvious - data and points. Because they can hide behind data and say (in case a #1 pick busts) - "I did all the research and we had to go with that player".
Heiskanen has a great character for coaches - he obviously goes on the ice each practice with a plan and the attitude "today I become a better player". Hischier, on the other hand, is a perfect case of how a frightened coach can literally coach talent out of a super creative center just to make him an (unnatural) two-way center.
The Daigle and Hischier examples are two very good examples of how important your environment is. How do your parents, your manager and your teammates support you when you make it into the league and end up with a bad coach who tells you to play outside your comfort zone. As a 19-year-old, you are very quickly impressed and give up on what you believe in because you 7 analysts telling you every inch you skated or didn't skate. Mentoring is just as important for a young player. If you talk to a retired player, they will many times tell you that they had that one older teammate who helped them with the things besides the puck...
Good teams are the perfect blend of several good players - other teams just have individual stars who won't win a flower pot. Even Mc David could end up without a cup. Which shifts the focus away from the player draft to management which decides over player development, scouting, coaching, support systems etc.
Peterson reminds me alot of Mitch Marner. Both were underrated in their draft and turned out to be one of the best in the nhl. Great pick for the nucks.
Marner went 4th overall and McDavid and Eichel were better selections... hardly underrated.
@@Dragon_Fyre Yea but what i meant was that he was underrated compared to the people after him. It was projected that some others would go ahead of him in the draft. And everyone was suprised that they picked Marner over other players.
im here when you have 37.7 k subs,, just insane!!!
Miro is a beast
and Elias it makes sense cuz he’s tiny and they just didn’t know he would develop so quickly
still would have taken nico at 1, the devs needed a two way center and nico has a Selke in his future. his game is so underrated its criminal
I am a big fan of Hischier, I love his playing style. But Pettersson is among the top players in the entire NHL for his 2 way game. His advanced stats are insane at the moment.
Pettersson is better than Nico defensively while having 100-120 point upside lol
Nice man!👌⭐️🙌
Some faults in this video. He is born and raised in a small vilage about 100 km from Sundsvall that called Ånge, same place that Samuel Påhlsson former Ducksplayer was born and raised in
ANDERS!!!!! Best leaf of all time
Some faults in this comment. Pettersson was born in Sundsvall.
Hope that al of these players will do good, but I think Elias will be the star if he is not hurt.😊
Can we get a why were ____ drafted before Tarasenko. I forget how many were drafted before him
Patrick Kane the Russian factor easy answer
I’ll look into it 👍🏻
First pick was a decision between Nico and Nolan, second pick was whoever wasn’t picked. As a Flyers fan, I would’ve been pissed if we took anyone besides Nico or Nolan. After that it was kinda a gimme. Makar and Heiskanen were both good picks, and Vancouver fans were also upset with the Pettersson pick. Vilardi was supposed to go higher, possibly 5th. It’s all just circumstance.
Heiskanen is really proving himself now
It seems like swedes fits like hand in glove at vancouver,present and past...
Makar is very well defensively he shut down every rush the blues had tonight
he was passed on because of his size
What about his thin-privilege? 🤣🤣🤣
I have two words for GM's who pass on players because of their size: Theoren Fluery.
Dat slapshot doe
Great video their Rob Hutton lol and I miss your game overviews lol
Me too :(
Five big wins in a row Rob we need you to do a video on that and what your thoughts are moving into the new year
Huge win last night! Secondary scoring has been great, Virtanen has been playing the best hockey of his entire career. You love to see it!
Boys, I think virtanen is becoming a scoring/goon! Love it!
Felipe Pineda Seems he’s finally figured out his recipe for success
And now we lost 7 out 9
@@samslone9457 - even if get in at 8 seed will be a victory. and to be honest, I actually think we can knock out big bag blues. We have already abused them twice this season!
He would be a Big profile for the Storm Bears
The sky is truly the limit....top 5 .....he is so smart & add in awesome hockey skills & one day in the future we will see his name on the “ring of honour” maybe even better than Bure? Time will tell.....
Yep I agree. He is a special talent
Ring of Honour?? EP40 is going to be retired in to the Rafters right alongside our Stanley Cup Banner
Bure is my hero. And I bleed Canuck. He may be a better played overall. But I don't know about the best goal scorer against Bure. 60 back to back seasons is hard to beat. Especially in this 2019 nhl with mutant goalies! Lol
Yah but Bure was selected like 110th overall... then wins the Calder trophy in 91-92... every single time the Russian rocket touched a puck... people sensed a goal about to happen. And largely came out of no where as far as the hockey scene was concerned.
i cant doubt Petterssons value but Heiskanen is definitely the best pick from this draft, and Hischier has the talent to easily end up being as good as Pettersson
He is from another part of the world. moving half the globe at 19 yrs old. That giving him some buffert.
The Rangers knew all about Pettersson, they tried to trade up for him too.
No they did not as a ranger fan I’m so upset we didint get him man!
imagine petterson on colorado 👀 👀
Imagine makar on Colorado...
Imagine. Makar in. Vancouver?
Im happy with getting Cale Makar tho
Video didnt age well with the 2022 season of a .88ppg compared to McKinnons 1.33ppg big yikes. I hope he does rebound though
Wait so should I run 115gr tui or 147gr hst? Didn’t catch it. Oh and olight valkyrie or surefire 300u for a g17?
Oh wait wrong vid sorry.
2:43 VLH
What's crazy is if you look at his stats he has more HITS than everybody in the league who has more points than him. I believe he sits just outside the top ten in scoring
"Hits" stats are pretty useless, because it is so subjective. (Same as the "giveaway/takeaway"stat. There are dozens and dozens of "changes of possession" in a game but maybe only 4 or 5 takeaway/giveaways scored. I've seen guys give the puck away three times on one shift but the official scorer has them down as one for the whole game.)Every game contains hundreds of hits while the stats may show it being 10-7. There are specific arenas where the house statistician will always have more or less hits counted on a consistent basis, regardless of who is playing (nothing to do with home town bias).
@@stupidas9466 your right that's very true it's not a hugely important stat at all because like you said it's subjective but I still think that says something about his game that many people don't realize because this season while watching him I have noticed he's actually been taking runs at guys. He's becoming very good at taking the body just enough to open up space for his stick which is where his magic is both on offensive and defensive tasks
pork wop agree with you there.
Hischier and Patrick shouldn’t have been drafted before him. Heiskanen and Makar both make sense to be drafted before him though. Both have shown elite potential