High Build primer over epoxy. Spraying with Black Widow gun. Jade part 59.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, I prep the front sheet metal for 2K high build primer from PPG. I mix the primer and spray with the Harbor Freight Black Widow gun. I also demonstrate block sanding the hood using guide coat.
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Holy crap! That idea of using paint tape to pour paint without having paint all over the lid is genius!! This will save such a big headache!!
Love the disappearing gun trick at 8:23!
Always store the gun with lacquer thinner in it. Another brilliant Jo Daddy golden nugget piece of advice. Awesome video!
Nope !Clean it thoroughly and put it away after you blow it out …Thinner will kill the seals and O rings …
The best low price paint guns I've used are Astro. The Euro Pro HE work great, and I bought an Evo-T for metallics. Around $100 per gun. You can direct purchase different needle & fluid tips from 1.2 to 1.9.
Another very informative and entertaining video. Looking forward to the seeing the final paint.
Take care on your trip and wish you a trouble free and fun time.
That's my next step on the 65 I'm restoring, it's gonna be hours of fun... LOL 👍
Looking good 👍👍
Love the tape on paint can trick !
I think by the time I get to the body work on my project, your videos will have given me the confidence to try it myself. In the past I've always twisted the wrench on all things mechanical, but left the the body and paint to the Pros. Great series of videos , all of them ....... Mystic, the Brooklyn Pony, and now Jade! Keep them coming, Thanks!
If you want a car straight you must block sand with at least 100-150 grit the first time. Reprime and do it again and again until perfect. People always want to sand with too fine of paper! Been doing this for over 30 years and cannot stress this enough, we hate wavy cars!
Yep
Thanks for sharing your knowledge . It was so helpful.
Boy, that reducer really allows the primer to flow a lot better. Might have to experiment myself as I usually just use primmer surfacer and hardener and it comes out thick and heavy, great practical demonstration. have to go buy some before I spray the body.
I've always been scared to death to use a box fan for a paint booth. Was always afraid a spark from the motor brushes would start a fire with all the fumes going through it. I'm obviously overthinking things since you use one and obviously haven't had any problems so maybe I'll give it a try next time.
The average $20 box fan sold an home improvement stores are brushless. There is no start capacitor and no internal centrical switch to change from start windings to run windings. They do use three sets of windings to allow the top switch to change speed due to “Pole” position. Suggestion; look for Jeremy Fielding in youtube, click on his channel as he discusses motor types and universal motors. If the used brushes, they would be $5 more. Hope this helps and Jeremy is a cool guy!
@@deankay4434 thanks for the info. Makes sense!
I really love this job
Just my 2c but you gotta use a siphon feed gun with a 2mm tip for DTM/High build/Epoxy primers - those are hungry paints when it comes to flow rates and few HVLP/LVLP guns can feed them. They need to be hosed on like water on a fire. Otherwise, you're just making work for yourself.
I can't wait to see it painted it will look great 👍
I use this stuff too. Subscribed years ago since I had a 67 mustang and you did amazing work on them. Love the tape V trick.
Looking Great!! Cant wait to get back on my 66, always inspiring to see progress like this but I gotta get the house remodel done first ;)
I just tried that tape trick on the my shopline gallon today works very well I like using shopline myself that's what turn me on to watching your video💯👍
I see the powder guide coat used more and more. I am guessing it will show sand scratches, pin holes and other defects better than a mist of cheap Matt black paint?
Another painter save some of his 1k primer in a contrasting color, as a wash for the same purpose. I would guess it would dry within reasonable time and do a decent job. Thanks for the tips, especially the seam sealer on ever panel joint. They build these quick for profit and less effort than a farm tractor. Shame!
I find blocking easy sand filler a bear on long reverse crowns or concave areas, like the bed side of my 1967 C10. Great video again.
Primer filler dosen’t bother me. On top body filler and then a lite black primer coat to find high low spots after blocking. Never used epoxy covering.
So many debates over this. Just got off the phone with Tamco they said no filler on bare metal creates heat then condensation on metal and to put over there DTM high build 5310. I do not need epoxy if car is inside all the time it will save you a lot of money just block and top coat your done and still have epoxy properties in the DTM.
I can't understand what you're trying to tell us because of lack of punctuation and proper grammar. Please, I'm not trying to be nit-pickey, I'm just trying to understand. You say "no filler on bare metal creates heat..." did you mean "do not use filler on bare metal. That creates heat..." or "filler on bare metal creates heat..."? "Put over THEIR DTM high build..."?
Not sure if I would trust leaving lacquer thinner in a harbor freight spray gun.The seals may be sensitive and swell
Clean it, put a little thinner in the cup, hook it up to shop air, blow it out completely, remove the cup, apply gun oil where indicated, store it in a plastic bag. I still use guns I've had for 20 years using this method.
Those holes are bigger becaise theybwere drilled Iit for those little press in cups. Speed clips i believe theyre called. Elliminares the need for a nut on the back.
Awesome video!
Tom Hanks should be picked as an actor if they ever do a film about you.
😂👍🏼
Megusto
Look great use RM
As always great tips & tricks.Just curious if you ever use such products like evercoat feather fill and what you thought about them.
I used feather fill a long time ago. i think the new name is slick sand. Mixed results.
Hi jodady! You're making great progress. Where are you buying your shopline primer? I will be at high build soon.
PPG store.
Is that the HVLP or HET? I have a 27gal 5.1@90psi n cant figure out what gun to get. Ideally something that can do prime,base,clear
Hvlp
At 8:46 there is a note about "self etch" that you didn't talk about..what's that? Please, and thank you sir..have a great day!
Yes, It's where I sanded down to bare metal, and added self etch.
Could you have used a DA instead of block sanding the larger, flat part of the hood? Informative vid btw! Thanks
It depends on your skills. With block sanding, you eliminate a lot of variables.
@@JoDaddysGarage Gotcha 👍🏾
what blocks the bondo work from mapping through the paint? the epoxy or the high build primer? have used both and still see some mapping. What is the best way to seal bondo for no mapping? thank you
I have that problem sometimes. Believe it or not, coat the entire panel with a thin layer of filler and block it smooth. Then add high build.
What PSI did you have your gun when you sprayed
I don't remember exactly. I usually follow the manufacturers recommendations.
Appreciate this video as I am in the middle of priming my Falcon and using ppg shop line epoxy. I am having to go over some old epoxy that I shot 10 years ago (stalled project) and find myself sanding through to metal in spots while getting the body ready for the new epoxy. It's going to be a bit before I can actually shoot the epoxy primer and was told I CAN'T spray etch (rattle can) primer on the bare metal spots (to keep it from rusting) because it will react with the epoxy primer in a bad way. You mention you have some spots of etch on the hood. Would like your thoughts on using the etch. Is it actually safe to use?
I have used SEM self etch per instructions by my PPG rep. I have filled in spots with a light dusting of self etch when I have broken through my high build. No reactions. If you are recording with epoxy, everything needs to be sanded. Epoxy on has a 4 day window to top coat.
@@JoDaddysGarage Yea...1st shoot had some textures and drying issues. Will be outside of the window for sure. Good thing I don't hate sanding...lol.
where could i get the spout you had on your reducer?
I got it from the paint supply store.
Thank you for going into so much detail with the sanding process. I've seen so many other videos where they just gloss over the little things.
Are the Shop Line products any good? My local NAPA carries the brand.
I’ve had good luck with them.
O my god. Why a foot away?
Or transtar or matrix
Is it best to put body filler on bare metal or epoxy primer?
You can do either. I like to get all the metal sealed in epoxy and work out from there.
How can copper be plated?
Thanks
Whats the purpuse of using 2 diffient primers?
Epoxy bonds to the sheet metal. If you have a straight vehicle, you can use epoxy. If you have to do bodywork, you top it with high build. But epoxy always comes first.
@@JoDaddysGarage so basically its for diffiant type metal's. Like primer/ surfacer?
yes
@@JoDaddysGaragedo you have to put regular 2k primer or sealer ontop of high build. Or can u baseciat rigjt on the high build
Excuse my ignorance. Why do you need another primer over the epoxy primer. Why can’t you go straight to the base coat?
Epoxy acts as a kind of sealer to the metal. It is sprayed relatively thin. It binds to the metal. High build primer is used to give you something to sand if you need to make sure all the body work is right. It is sprayed thick. If you have a perfect car or panel, you can go straight to base coat. Most people don’t.
Got a question, did u sanded the epoxy primer or just painted the 2k on top of epoxy?
I sand the epoxy. You can spray 2K straight to epoxy, but you have to do it within a certain time frame. Manufacturers may vary.
@@JoDaddysGarage Been using the summit (single stage) DTM and 2K urethane primer for a while, after spraying 2 coats of the DTM we wait 45 minutes and then go right over it with 2 coats of the 2K primer, this gives a nice starting point for block sanding especially if you are starting with bare metal. If you slightly over reduce the second coat of 2K it will lay down like glass. Best Regards....
I’m working on my c10 body right now. I’ve sanded the clear coat off which was original paint so maybe 50% of truck still had clear. There’s spots of rust where I’ve taken down to bare metal but other than that the body is straight with no dents. I hit the bare metal with etching primer already. Would you still use an epoxy and then urethane in a case like that? I saw in another comment that you said the epoxy? That makes me only want to do epoxy. My understanding is epoxy can last awhile before paint and my fun time is limited so this may take me a while. I also have come to understand that epoxy is not typically sanded but seems your epoxy is able to be sanded? Thanks!
I need one of those pour spouts for my reducer cans , where did you get it ?
My local PPG store.
Amazon has something similar
@@JoDaddysGarage my local doesn't have them , next time i'm down in Dallas I may check a few paint stores there .
@@nicholasbrown6481 man I looked couldn’t find it
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I hate the way it is 4 to one to one. I will just stick with the ounces and do the math 4 ounces 1 ounce 1 ounce 8 oz., 2 ounces 2 ounces