Kinman Blues Set Pickups versus Seymour Duncan Everything Axe Pickup Set

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  • This is my A/B comparison of the Kinman 'Blues Set' Stratocaster pickup set and the Seymour Duncan 'Everything Axe' set. (Revised version of earlier video: sound level increased).

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  • @dominickedwardscantore9001
    @dominickedwardscantore9001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice demo ! I agree the Kinman pups sounded Fuller and there was better clarity with the Kinman pups as well !!! Thank you for sharing !!!

  • @keithpatel6584
    @keithpatel6584 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both sets sound great but I agree that the Kinmans have more clarity and note separation.
    Excellent demo 😊 thanks.

  • @patrickkeating5329
    @patrickkeating5329 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kinmans are the gold standard for noiseless single coil. Great vid.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for viewing Patrick. Yes, they're a high quality build and I particularly like the 'proper' pole spacing on each pickup so Strat strings align perfectly with them.

  • @TheNeCaster
    @TheNeCaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Many thanks for detailed comparison. I presume that SD will cut a dense mix easily while Kinmans are more suitable for the guitar blues type of music. To my ear SD are just fine, but you do not hear a Strat as such. With Kinmans the guitar becomes a Strat.

  • @sithgirl1422
    @sithgirl1422 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fender are using the wrong pickups in their US Standard Stratocasters, because the pickups they typically use are spaced for the vintage six screw bridge, whereas the modern two post bridge requires narrower spaced pole pieces. The Fender Noiseless pickups have the narrower spacing. Kinman pickups are clearly a great choice; the alignment appears to be perfect and if Hank Marvin uses them then they must be good! And no 50/60 cycle hum. Lace Sensor pickups are also a good choice for any Stratocaster because they don't have any pole pieces. However, this of course changes the asthetics of the guitar.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree with all those points. BTW, since I made the video I bought a set of Kinman the Hank Marvin Moderns, and I'm very pleased with those also. Thanks for viewing!

  • @waywardsoul4918
    @waywardsoul4918 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video. Im glad I stumbled upon this. As i just ordered the SD everything strat set; but after watching this video with my airpods i agree the kinmans sound more musical and clear.
    Im gonna have to cancel my order and make a new order. Cheers

  • @crimadellaphone9374
    @crimadellaphone9374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Somehow you manage to rock the pink stripes better than the solid colored shirt even though the pole alignment on the Kinman's is actually right which gives more clarity to the individual strings/notes played within a chord. I have the SD E-Axe's on the way. I had discovered Kinman's (oddly they aren't as a familiar brand as many others) over 10 years ago, always wanted a set because of the pole positions lined up for the guitar which 100% matters. I was worried about shipping going wrong being they ship from Australia, plus the extra $100 for them(I'm on a small budget) helped me sway towards the SD's. In a perfect world I would have the Kinman's but you gotta work with reality. Wish I would had watched this before buying, I would had definitely gone for the Kinman's. Scientifically(and you can definitely tell by ear), the closer the individual pole is to the wrong string, the more it blends that string sound over the correct string and it gives more of a jumbled sound, while being perfectly aligned gives more clarity, hearing the individual notes more than a jumbled mess. It's amazing how many people know the vast difference in the pole position vertically with slight adjustments yet think that same science doesn't apply when shifting the pole horizontally. They sound as clear as I always dreamed they would.

  • @G-Point-EU-AU
    @G-Point-EU-AU 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinman pickups are authentic sounding and much better in any aspect - tone, attack, phase, precision, frequency response etc. It is hard to compare SD micro-humbuckers with very special Kinman stackers, but the main differences are two: 1) Double poles on humbuckers provide phase distortion. This case SD mid pickup is a little bit better. 2) Serial (or parallel) connection of two identical coils of SD humbuckers are affecting everything in them. Kinman bottom coil has low serial resistance but is inductance balanced with upper main coil against hum. This way main upper coil is minimal affected (

  • @ianaintsaying1625
    @ianaintsaying1625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I totally dig the Kinman pickups. They have a more musical tone than the Duncans.

  • @kjneese
    @kjneese 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking at an array of noiseless for my 2017 Fender Mod Shop Tele. Joe Bardens Modern and Mojotone Broadcaster Quiet Coil are on my list, but your video now has me weighing Kingman against them. Great demo!

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks, I'm sure you'll like them. I've bought a second set since.

    • @RRW276
      @RRW276 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jamie Neese I switched to the Mojotone quiet coils in my tele & I guarantee you I'll never touch or replace those pups. They're absolutely what I was searching for. That is after I found the right tele with the feel I was looking for. I didn't consider the Joe Barden pups but I have played the rail set. I liked them a lot but didn't get much time with them. Mojotone are just great, imho. But then again, it's all subjective & a matter of what works best for you. At least we have great choices!

  • @romanlakes
    @romanlakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video! I had my everything axe pickups fitted today. I asked my tech about the alignment of the poles. He thinks it shouldn’t make a difference as magnets don’t conduct in a straight line, but in more general direction in the vicinity

    • @robbiedaug
      @robbiedaug ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think i just read something on Kinman's website about how your tech can talk to a Kinman tech about the measurements of the strings over the poles. Kinman thought of it all

    • @Martos59
      @Martos59 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robbiedaug I have some fender pickups from my 1970 Strat that were a great sounding set, so much so I took them out of the guitar before I sold it with replacement pickups. I have the Kinman Blackmore set which is every bit as good as those and completely quiet. They are spectacular if you want great fender Strat tone. Check my TH-cam video. Forget my playing but the sound is glorious. You can pull a ton of great tones out of them. Chris Kinman is a clever engineer.

  • @mikeaustin4138
    @mikeaustin4138 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the better Kinman demos I've seen. In most of them, the pickups sound "flat". I find this to be true of all the noiseless pickups in general, except for the Fishman Fluence Core and Kinman (in the right hands?).

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for viewing Mike. I've just acquired a second set for my American Deluxe Strat and can't say the Kinmans are flat to my ears, although maybe they do tame a wee bit of the Strat stock pickups upper 'glass', but that I like.

  • @davidrod2865
    @davidrod2865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot for the demo. Helped a lot!!!

  • @nogardtla
    @nogardtla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the comparison - you can really hear/tell the difference between the humbuckers and single coils (def. Strat sound). I've been considering the everything axe set, but with a push-pull pot to split the coils so I can get the best of both worlds.

  • @javagun51
    @javagun51 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely going to look into replacing my everything set with Kinman. Thank you for the comparison.

  • @TheMidnightOnline
    @TheMidnightOnline ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm having the same issue...I'm not completely 'Blown away' by the SD Everything Strat.
    I've used the Kinman Woodstock plus pickups in my other Strat for years, amazing pickups! Huge, FAT sounding, no hum, warm not icy, incredibly responsive to playing dynamics, personally the best Strat pickups I've heard or played by a long shot for Blues to Blues/Rock styles.
    I'm running the SD Everything's via an SRV style US Strat into a Fender 68 Custom VibroChamp amp....an incredibly warm, dynamic amp that sounds great with my Strat or my Gibson 60s LP, Gibson 335...However, I find with these pickups running through it, it becomes very icy and way too bright, when driven with my JHS Shotgun pedal it just gets worse.
    If you're in a cover band doing various 80s and upwards rock covers etc, I could see the attraction...If you're a blues to Blues/Rock player I wouldn't bother with them, there's much better and more versatile options out there.
    The JB 59 also sounds dreadful in comparison to my Gibson 60s standard neck pickup.
    I'll be removing them soon myself and looking into the Kinman Blues sets. Thanks

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, your comments nailed it. I love Strats, and have done for years, but if I'm honest, I'm attracted by all their attributes except for their 'glassiness'. Kinmans have more body and subtlety in my opinion. My favourite tones are in the Peter Green arena, I confess, and I'm curently in a prolonged 'humbucking' period, enjoying the delights of PRS SE Custom guitars, of which I now have three. I've also got a PRS SE DGT on order. I still have the Olympic White Strat and it has an occasional outing, but for gigs I'm using the excellent PRS SEs. I also have a Strat Performer in Penny finish and put Kinmans on that. Thanks for dropping by!

  • @Ozman77
    @Ozman77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve never heard of Kinman before, but Wow do those sound good!

  • @lynnjohnston1252
    @lynnjohnston1252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Admittedly, I'm a humbucker fan, and I've had the Everything Axe in my Strat with dual toggles and liked it a lot. The Kinmans definitely had more top end clarity, but I feel the increased treble lends itself to the "ice pick" issue with the bridge pickup, which causes me to not use the bridge alone on a Strat. I don't know if it was a subconscious thing or not, but on the bridge pickup comparisons, you played the Everything Axe pickup from behind the center pickup, and the Kinsman in front of the center pickup. Compensating for too much treble on the Kinsman? Otherwise, a nicely done comparison.

  • @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec
    @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have used Kinman pickups in the past, but I would never use them again. Not just due to the snake oil marketing, but they also have deceptive business practices. 'Australian pickups' but made in the Philippines. Plus they inflate their prices for the Australian buyer while offering the same pickups at a markedly lower price overseas.

    • @PrettyRecords
      @PrettyRecords 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So what do you use now?? And in fairness, Kinman has been made in The Philippines for 20 years now. They make no secret of it and I'm just looking at the Kinman website, there's no mention of Australia anywhere...Oh and prices are the same globally on Reverb. My only problem I have with Kinman is the high price, they're just expensive pickups wherever you live in the world! But then the best never comes cheap.

    • @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec
      @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@PrettyRecordsCurrently I use JJ's pickups from Adelaide. If I really need noiseless single coils, I'll use DiMarzio.

    • @PedalPoopers
      @PedalPoopers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PrettyRecordsDo you really consider Kinman the best just because they're not cheap??? This is a good demo for the Kinmans, however they're pcb pickups..... we all know they are too overpriced

    • @PedalPoopers
      @PedalPoopers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@MichaelSorensen-bl3ecI use Seymour Duncan Custom Shop signature sets. Sets like the Steve Miller, or the Joe Bobamassa and they blow any of the Kinman sets out the water. I've used Kinman in the past as well.

    • @PrettyRecords
      @PrettyRecords 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PedalPoopers Hey Stevegetalife, they're not cheap because Kinman use the best components, the base is "pcb" based but so are many others! Including some Duncans and Dimazio etc! With Kinman you also get a choice of magnet stagger (pole-height) you also get a choice of pole-spread to optimise positioning (so they will best align under your strings, as different bridges dictate different pole alignment) You also get the ability to turn-off the hum cancelling if you wish. So all that taken on board, you won't find ALL those options anywhere else. I mean are you getting all those choices with your Seymour Duncans? No, thought not. So in that respect it is those options and attributes that make them unique. But like I said before, the best things in life never come cheap! But if you can't afford them, then buy some Fender Noiseless, but don't expect the quality of Kinman and don't expect the options either! And if you say you've had Kinmans in the past, you should check out the new range, as unlike other pickup brands that sit on one design for years, Kinman are always evolving! Hope you can save up and buy some of the new Kinmans! Oh and by the way, neither the Duncan Steve Miller "The Joker' Strat pickups nor the Cradle Rock Strat pickups for "Bobamassa" (as you call him......) are hum-cancelling. So you're on the wrong thread really bro. Here we're discussing noiseless/hum-cancelling pickups, plenty of discussions on other pages about old style traditional pickups. Good luck! 👍

  • @kissthissonline
    @kissthissonline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked your video very much, and yes I watched the whole thing. I will check out these pickups myself. Thank you.

  • @davidnuzzaci2459
    @davidnuzzaci2459 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The KInman blues set sound and appear to feel better under your fingers. More expressive! Congrats

  • @davidallen346
    @davidallen346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm adding Kinman Treble bleed to my Fender American HH strat hope it works out, those new Kinman pickups definitely look and sounds better than the SD everything set

  • @tomfoolery2082
    @tomfoolery2082 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats cool iv never seen any other pup get wider like that. Got my attention .

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both sets are terrific, but for any player who wants a more traditional strat tone the Kinmans are unbeatable. There is a certain punchiness that strats are associated with and you will lose that with any humbucker, like the JB Jr and Lil' 59 which occupy the Bridge and Neck of the Everything set. But it is a great set too. My rule with single coils is they must be stacked for hum canceling. It's a matter of preference as to which set is best for any individual player.

  • @nealixd.3011
    @nealixd.3011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Kinmans are real cool, no doubt, esp. if you are looking for more of a traditional sound with some oomph. Lots of clarity and an open tone like you say. Slightly scooped perhaps? It is more clear they are great pups when they go head to head with other single coil pups. Very cool on the graduated spacing. You remind a bit in personality and look of the gentlemanly Englishman, Peter Frampton.
    I had the SD Everything Axe set on a used Squier Standard Strat that I bought at a GC. Somebody totally tricked it out and I got a steal for only $200, later sold it for $350, it had all kinds of stuff, the pup set, locking tuners, etc. Just didn't need it, I have a tricked out Carvin DC145, and other various traditional, beefed up and shredder Strat styles. I found the SD Everything Axe set to sound quite good, except for the middle "Duckbucker". It has the Fender quack in the two and four positions, but is very weak for the middle position by itself, esp. in relation to the JB Jr/bridge, and little 59/neck. I don't know how Seymour and crew ever designed that pup, thinking it was ever any good at all, or would fit the Everything Axe set. It is a very useless pup to me. SD usually makes great pups, but that one just seems like a misfire to me, it misses the mark. Stock Strat middle pups often sound better.

  • @Rich915
    @Rich915 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm more of a single coil guy. They seem to have more snap to them compared to H-buckers. Used the Kinman AVN Blues set in my guitar when I was gigging. Never got any complaints & they served me well & w/ no Hum, which was a big problem for me as some of the clubs flourescent lighting would be way too much w/ regular single coils.I had the SCN pickup in the bridge spot that gave a bit more juice when needed. Thx for the comparison MW. We covered Spooky too...lol

  • @naterbater1
    @naterbater1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well I'm just on computer speakers but I prefer the duncans.

  • @douggarrett5288
    @douggarrett5288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a set of Kinmans for my strat and love them. I got the K7 wiring harness to go long with them, it allows me to bring in the neck pickup with the bridge and also bring the neck in while playing in the two position. One day I'll learn how to play,,,,lol

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool! I have them on three of my Strats now. Great tone and perfect string/pole alignment. Enjoy yours! Thanks for viewing. (NB: I'll be doing more videos soon - I recently moved to Cornwall and have almost finished setting up my new studio.)

  • @AB-lx8cf
    @AB-lx8cf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    something about the kinmans..they sing more? if that makes sense. some really great clarity in the strums... the SD setup sounds darker... both setups are pretty warm sounding,
    really great mid and highs off the kinman. I think If I were going to get strat again, i think i would look into getting the kinman pickups.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all a matter of taste, but for me they enable me to get the sounds I want, so I have them on four of my Strats now. Thanks for viewing.

  • @MaikiStarwood
    @MaikiStarwood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Kinmans are definitely a lot more musical sounding.

  • @defin99
    @defin99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Methinks you're being a bit finnicky about the pole piece alignment. The seymour duncans had a bit more mid range the kinmans tended to sound more to the acoustic side. Overall i liked them both.

    • @crimadellaphone9374
      @crimadellaphone9374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm, I heard the exact opposite. Also, scientifically the positions of the poles 100% matter. Is it worth an additional $100 to get Kinman's sent from Australia though? Not to someone on a budget, for this they make EQ's. If the poles were correctly aligned on the SD's it would give a slightly more balanced sound. The positions of the poles are pretty sensitive hence the reason for the sound difference when raised or lowering the pickup by very small degrees. The closer an individual pole is to the wrong string the more of a signal it gets from the wrong string causing less clarity, makes chords sound more "jumbled" rather than "clean"(hearing the individual strings/notes more clearly within the chord).

  • @simoneric8183
    @simoneric8183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci pour ce banc d'essai ! J'écoute vidéo sur vidéo et je commence un peu à avancer pour voir comment je pourrais remplacer les micros d'origine sur ma Squier Affinity : je suis tombé amoureux du son du micro "manche" (je règle ma tonalité au maximum de graves) mais je voudrais plus de chaleur et pourquoi pas plus de "crispy bite" en même temps (dont je pourrais régler l'intensité)... Pour l'instant je crois que les Kinman travaillent plus proprement et s'en sortent mieux (autour de 13:12 - 14:00 on entend que les Seymour ajoutent des bruits qui ne sont pas des notes, surtout sur l'attaque)...

  • @TelecasterLPGTop
    @TelecasterLPGTop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sitting here with my new (to me) Custom Shop Strat and a Kinman Scn bridge pup that I've dug up from my box of bits and pieces from when I had a Standard Sunburst Strat in a previous incarnation . My God what a neck, it had been shaved and was beautiful to play. Why do we let these gems go ? I digress,. Should I get out my soldering iron or get a tech on to it after Christmas?

  • @Traynoramp08
    @Traynoramp08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I am glad I came across your video, I currently using Dimarzio tone zone bridge and virtual solo on neck and I still can't get the tone I want , to me they sound a bit muted, even when I open up the treble it seem that the get mudded. Your video gave me the inspiration to look for those Kinman pickups. gonna look at their web page.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have them on four of my Strats now, so very pleased with them. Good luck trying them!

    • @Traynoramp08
      @Traynoramp08 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marmadukewinterbotham2599 Hi, do you think they can be use for hard hard and metal?

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Traynoramp08 I don't see why not. They don't have the Strat hum, which must be an advantage with those styles!

    • @Traynoramp08
      @Traynoramp08 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marmadukewinterbotham2599 yes. I was reading the story on the kingman site about how he started. He did mention that today pickups are tone killers. Since I loaded my strat with Dimarzio. I haven't been able to get that tone I seek. It's always muddy and for ever battle trying to get it clean up. I like clean gain and touch sentivity on my pickups. Yes, some people will swear on them. But hey not everyone can eat raw habanero peppers. I am an multi genre musicians but my main is rock/metal type. Here is a demo of what I do. Note: I just don't play metal all day. I do jazz, classical, symphony, latin, flamenco and so on.
      Demo
      slaps.com/track/Qq2HQN0H
      I got a huge selection of music not uploaded yet. But soon it will available.

    • @Daveymallon
      @Daveymallon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buy a set mate, you have no idea what treats are coming your way. This video does no justice to either set but just trust me on this! I have kinmans in my tele, it’s easily the nicest sounding guitar I own and I’ve got 13 electrics. All US or Custom made high quality instruments one Duesenberg. The Tele with the kinmans is hands down, the greatest guitar I own tonally.

  • @robertanderson8613
    @robertanderson8613 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot more jangle and maybe a little more sustain but both sound good

  • @keithclark2136
    @keithclark2136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ALSO PUP HEIGHT AND ANGLE CHANGES TONE PICKING ATTACK AND PICKS. EVERY ONE HEARS THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

  • @Bellabaddi
    @Bellabaddi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a set of Fralin blues in one strat and fender 69s in another. The 69s sound so much better I’m sad to say. I’ve been a fralin fan bot for close to 20 yrs now... I don’t know if or what to replace the fralins with tho?

  • @Davo2233
    @Davo2233 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not split the bridge and neck and leave the duckbucker as is. I do believe its a bucker too but with really low output. THATS what I did plus i added 2 toggle switches in order to have all 3 on at same time and the other puts neck and bridge on. With a push button coil split I can run any combination single coiled or humbucker mode. I feel like I can get very close to a sss strat and I know I can rock like hell with all buckers in any position.

  • @timothyvaher2421
    @timothyvaher2421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Kinmans are Superior to wound Humbuckers or single coil ssl's! The kinetic energy of a guitar pick will exponentially power up & over any model sets of the aforementioned.
    Yet this is how disruptive technologies roll. Kinmans made a "Blues" set and powered into the lead! By playing with his fingernails he's proven how the subtle dynamic power of the brigde alone makes the others sound as if their trying to pop the lid off an empty coffee can.

  • @davidrees1840
    @davidrees1840 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Duncans are fine, but a bit lacking sparkle whereas the Kinmans have tons of presence. I'm looking for Tele pickups because the hum is unbearable, and have just started to compare Kinman, Zexcoil, Fralin, etc., all of whom seem to have models that deliver all the brightness with no more hum than a humbucker. Good video, thanks!

  • @biggie9817
    @biggie9817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To me, overall , the Kinmans have less bass, increased mids, and the highs sound like there is increased tension, thus creating a few unpleasant harmonics. The SDs sound more balanced...

  • @jorgemontecinosmeza
    @jorgemontecinosmeza 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am to ear in Duncans most bass and low trebels. It is a common error not change the pots 250k for single coil, with 500k for humbackers. I do not know if is your case. This mod cut the bass and got a sound more balanced. Whenever the humbuckers do not give you the bright of single coils pickups for a standar strat. The most important is: What sound do you want.

  • @Daveymallon
    @Daveymallon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s not even a discussion. The Kinmans are night and day nicer. I’ve been on a load of forums and normally I’d take the opinions with a grain of salt but there is an overwhelming endorsement from a lot of American session guys swapping out “all” of their strats with kinmans. Little bit of trivia for y’all. Prince put 2 Kinman Strat pickups in his Hohner Madcat Tele. That Tele has an incredible sound.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's interesting. I have a MadCat. I wonder which set he chose?

    • @Daveymallon
      @Daveymallon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marmadukewinterbotham2599 google Prince’s Madcat. There is info and it might have specifics. I can’t remember.
      legendary-guitars.blogspot.com/2011/09/prince-madcat-hohner-telecaster.html?m=1

    • @Daveymallon
      @Daveymallon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marmadukewinterbotham2599 I’m curious,,, were you able to find which ones he used? I haven’t looked extensively myself but Prince was the inspiration for me putting Kinmans in my Tele even though I have a humbucker on the neck and a Tele blaster on the bridge. They are incredible but if you’ve got the Madcat, you know how amazing that guitar could sound if you can find what he used exactly as it was the greatest funk, rock and blues dog I’ve ever heard come out of a Tele.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nicko Lps Hello Nicko. From my experience I couldn't disagree more! I now have them on four of my Strats and find the sounds open and full, with no problems with dynamics. But of course everyone has a slightly different idea of what type of sounds they like and what 'sounds right', in my case they suit me perfectly. From my experience with guitar techs over many decades they are very opinionated about certain things, and those prejudices differ from tech to tech. I used a certain highly skilled tech for thirty years and although I took his technical opinions as gospel - because he always did fantastic setups and alterations, etc. - I learned to take his opinions about 'sounds' with a pinch of salt. In his case he really got antsy when I asked him to fit some Bareknuckle pickups. He said they're "Not musical." What does that mean??? Bareknuckle have built a big reputation so they can't have done that by producing 'non musical' pickups! Guitar techs always forget to say beforehand "In my opinion..." I can only suggest you invest in a set and see what you think, although I realise that does mean making a fairly expensive purchase up front. Or, as you've done here, seek some more opinions from those who use Kinmans. Best of luck!

    • @michaelcraig9449
      @michaelcraig9449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they get a huge Jimi- SRV tone? I am looking for that tone, just want to get the hugest tones ever.

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video. Super Informative. I am convinced. Trading out my S.D. SRV-1 Vintage Rails for Kinman 69 Impersonator's. Thanks so much.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks Michael. I've now got Kinmans on two Strats and have just ordered a third set for a new American Performer Strat I just bought (there's an unboxing on my channel if you're interested). I'll do a comparison video when I've made the swap (Yosemite set for Kinman Blues Set).

    • @Daveymallon
      @Daveymallon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are the Blackmore ones and they are fucking beautiful. Was watching a vid on them the other day and they really have a lovely big bodied yet tight sounding dirty breakup when driven.

    • @michael_caz_nyc
      @michael_caz_nyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Daveymallon Nice. The search for the perfect tone . . . never ends ( however ) I purchased a 2014 Suhr Strat that came-with Lollar Dirty Blonde's. My search has Finally ended. I'm getting: SRV, Mark Knopfler, David Gilmour, Robin Trower & Nile Rodgers - so I'm on Cloud-9. Good Luck with your choice.

    • @Daveymallon
      @Daveymallon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michael_caz_nyc awesome bro. I swear Kinmans and lollars are the best sounding pickups out there bar none. I have a set of each in two Teles I own and I’ve never heard a sweeter more attractive tone in anything I’ve ever heard or played than what Kinmans and lollars can bring. That’s of course my taste and opinion but with those two brands, you’re not going to find too many people that can’t clearly hear how right pickups can be. So happy you’re happy, it’s great to finally arrive to the destination...🙏🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @michael_caz_nyc
      @michael_caz_nyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Daveymallon Thanks brother. Stay safe. oNe LoVe from NYC

  • @midcenturymachine5307
    @midcenturymachine5307 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks...Must say they both sound good BUT for my taste without playing them myself, I would lean towards the Seymour Duncans...Thanks again...

  • @artgillespie162
    @artgillespie162 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't have the two toggle system on the everything axe to split the humbuckers. That makes a big difference. The duncans have more variety. And the funny thing is that I replaced my Kinman pickups with the everything axe and am very happy with it. Also I never found a Marshall amp that was clean enough or that had enough jangle for my taste. They shine on distortion but not clean.

  • @tomattah_
    @tomattah_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. Instructive and helpful!

  • @user-zn6gz4ub7w
    @user-zn6gz4ub7w 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Seymours are no match for the Kinmans.

  • @pinscherpower1
    @pinscherpower1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IMO, I like sd better. Nice strat, I had to watch. Your holding my strat, same color! Lol.

  • @fabianmendoza6374
    @fabianmendoza6374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me gustó más el set de kinman Blues! Más cristalino, más limpio, eso percibí yo, en mi opinión buena elección! Saludos desde México 🇲🇽🎸

  • @robertclinger7351
    @robertclinger7351 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Kinman's sound great. Generally, when people put a JB in the bridge they WANT a hotter pup that roars more.

  • @perfectwhine742
    @perfectwhine742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey good demo man. Can you make a video with these pickups using some gain? I'd appreciate it!!

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking of doing some short videos of each of the guitars in my collection, so yes, I'll do that then. Thanks for viewing!

  • @billycarter4832
    @billycarter4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you strum without hear your nail scrape on strings. .I've been playing forever with a pick but recently became handicapped with muscle issues in my hands . I try using index finger as a pick but always hear that nail....Can use a pick if I tape thumb and index finger together but lose all my subtle attack..???? I have Charcot Marie Tooth

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for viewing. Sorry to hear of your muscle problems, it sounds debilitating. I guess it must be my particular technique; I use the back of my right index finger for strumming downstrokes and the fleshy part of the finger for upstrokes. I don't get clicking or scraping in my case; perhaps it's to do with the amount of attack?

  • @riki5rrd
    @riki5rrd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you pickups Kinman...

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for viewing. I just bought another set to install in my 50s Mexican Strat. Sadly, because of the corona virus lock-down I can't yet take them to my guitar tech for install. But when they're in I'll do a video. (Thinks......I wonder if I'm brave enough during the lockdown to learn how to install them myself....hm.)

  • @noiricha
    @noiricha 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry but I'm hearing some high frequency distortion on both - that being said the frequency response is fuller on the Kinmans..

  • @TrippyTheShroom
    @TrippyTheShroom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    SD's sound muffled but fuller, Kinman sounds more open and brighter. Definitely a place for both but I actually think the Kinmans sound better in this particular showing.

  • @ruscoelee
    @ruscoelee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put a 'dummy coil' pickup inside my Strats and it's killed the single coil buzz. I use Seymour Duncan 'vintage staggered Strat' pickups in one Strat, Dimarzio FS1's in another Strat and the 'stock' Mexican in the other. All completely noil less afterwards!

  • @johnstrathman1949
    @johnstrathman1949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have some kinman loaded guitars, I guess I should get them out of the closet and play them.
    Thanks...John

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! I just bought my third set for a new American Performer in penny finish.

  • @jasong546
    @jasong546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To me the kinmans sound weak and thin...but it’s not easy to tell. Hope you like the new pups.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have them on three of my Strats now. Any thinness must be down to the video or what you are listening on; I like a full-bodied sound on my Strats and the Kinman sets - to my ears - provide that. Thanks for viewing!

  • @robertclinger7351
    @robertclinger7351 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the SD pickups set to single coil? Or are you comparing humbuckers to single coil?

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Def an upgrade in my opinion but the pickups you already had on there were alright just not my cup of tea the kinmans were much warmer even at the volume you were playing and the quality of the video was a little thin but could still hear the huge difference

  • @tomsmusicroom2
    @tomsmusicroom2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    kinmans had a lot more tone

  • @speedriff
    @speedriff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    60 cycle hum in the US, 50 cycle hum in the UK.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks speedriff ! I didn't know that!

    • @speedriff
      @speedriff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marmaduke Winterbotham no problem mate. Yeah here in the US we are on 120, 60 hz, the UK is 240, 50hz. Not a big difference to be sure as noise is noise.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speedriff It lead me to a piece of startling information. Some forensic labs here in Europe have been recording the hum for some years. Apparently the pattern of continuous variations is unique and can be used to match auditory evidence in court. In one case it proved that an incriminating recording was not tampered with by the police as claimed by the accused. I love it when I stumble across something new like that!

    • @speedriff
      @speedriff 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marmaduke Winterbotham that’s pretty cool. The only difference between the two is the higher the hz, the smaller it can be. 10hz is pretty negligible. For example, aircraft use 115, 400hz. They chose that so components can be smaller and therefore have less weight. I always laugh when people try to doctor audio/video or say it was doctored. If you put audio into a program like Pro Tools (I’m sure the forensic labs use something much more specialized) of course you can tell if it’s been messed with. Good job by that lab.

  • @MrCacciLLo
    @MrCacciLLo ปีที่แล้ว

    Not really a fair comparison since you are comparing Humbuckers with Single Coils. That makes the Kinman single coil pickups sounde really Thin and over-bright compared to the Duncan ones, but that's largely because the Duncan's are Humbuckers a different type of pickup. Much more interesting and fair than this would be comparing single Coils to other Single Coils

    • @donfully
      @donfully 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      both pickups are meant to emulate traditional single coil strat sound without hum so it's a fair comparison I think.

  • @johnbutz5631
    @johnbutz5631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kinsmams are thinner and sound like stock PU's that would come on a Squier guitar whereas the S.D.'s are warmer and sound better especially on the clean setting.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chacun son goût!

    • @Incountry
      @Incountry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      john butz
      Kinman’s are no way stock sounding...!! Unlike the SDs which are HB technically where Kinmans are single coils..
      the video recording of the guitar is not really a good representation of the pups..

  • @michaelcantinieri7890
    @michaelcantinieri7890 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All Sounds extremely thin to me

    • @jadonx
      @jadonx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      better tell Gilmour and Hank Marvin then

  • @kendesjarlais7577
    @kendesjarlais7577 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you're a pro/session player., squabble over the differences-- fine i get it.... but somebody playing at home strumming a few chords like buddy here. does it really matter? but he's having fun -- all good

    • @rbenm
      @rbenm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i guess you are session guitarist.

    • @keithclark2136
      @keithclark2136 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ramzi Ben Mansour NOT SESSION -- SEASON NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

  • @arnaudg.6041
    @arnaudg.6041 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinman !

  • @mikec2660
    @mikec2660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    kinman sound great duncan sounds dull

  • @zelejazz
    @zelejazz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinman.

  • @denniscraven8438
    @denniscraven8438 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I get the time back that I wasted on this thing?

  • @Davo2233
    @Davo2233 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t think that set would work very well finger picking.

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Kinmans are perfect for me, a fingers only player, as I order them with the pole pieces higher under the top two strings, which balances all the string volumes for me that way.

    • @Davo2233
      @Davo2233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marmadukewinterbotham2599 how much is a set of kinnmans?

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Davo2233 Depends on what custom configuration you want and what base set it is, but expect to pay around £400 or so. Like everything else these days, these gone up a fair bit since I last bought a set. See Kinman.com for more info.

  • @dymonbak
    @dymonbak 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    sd sound superior they have a nice ringing tone i dont here that in the kinman

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tone preferences are very personal thing; I just like Kinmans and now have three Strats with them. Chacun a son gout!

  • @michaelcraig9449
    @michaelcraig9449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You ate up 10 minutes talking and taking stuff out of boxes. Why would anyone think we want to see stuff taken out of boxes?

    • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
      @marmadukewinterbotham2599  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My, my, you are an angry little person aren't you? Is everything all right at home?

    • @naki5961
      @naki5961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You would actually be surprised how many people wanna see an unboxing video 😂

    • @carl-uk1774
      @carl-uk1774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Michael Craig,
      Say buddy, are you late for work?
      Mr Winterbotham just explained it all in detail thats all. Geess!!!