I jump with joy everytime I see your name in my feed. Thank you for making these videos! Watching your stuff is always a nice trip down memory lane and most of the time I even learn a few new things. You're one of my favourite youtubers, definitely up there with the Happy Console Gamer and Game Chasers. Take care, man!
@@yauy How do Virtual Console games look on the Wii through component cables? Are they stratched to 16:9? Or are they presented in their original 4:3 aspect ratio?
I used the GameStop branded universal S-Video cable with my PS1, SNES, N64, and GameCube (since I can't afford the component cable). Not sure what everyone else has experienced, but I have not had any issues with the cable, no internal components blowing, and a much better picture than using composite. If I can find the genuine Nintendo S-Video cable, I will definitely use that to see if the quality is better.
By the way, component can do HD, if the device sending the signal and device displaying the signal support it, though not quite as clear/vibrant a quality as some other HD connections. You can certainly get 720p (and apparently even 1080p, or possibly higher) out of component though, and ED (480p and some others) if a TV supports it, though no one really talks about ED (it's still noticeably different quality/sharpness over 480i. Text designed with only HD screens in mind are actually readable in ED). However, not all TVs with component support higher than 480i, and not all devices that can output to component can send a higher signal. Which goes to the other clarification, you will not get HD (or any other type of signal) out of a system that is not designed to make such a resolution output. You can mod the system so that you can use a connector that can also do HD, but the signal itself from the system will never be HD. The only way somewhat around this is to use a signal converter and upscaler, and possibly some software filtering, to change the signal to a higher resolution, but the system will not be the one providing that signal. The additional work is something that was a selling point for the Retron 5, as you may recall, but that, again, involved extra upscaling and software filtering on the Retron 5s part that the original systems do not do. Many TVs will do upscaling of any signal that comes into them as well, though not a lot else and it's sometimes pretty slow on the TV side (creating latency). In short: HDMI connection =/= HD. It can carry lower resolution signals just as well (easier, really).
I really wish that the gamecube component cables werent so expensive, especially as a teenage collector. i cant just drop $150-250 on a video cable, so i'll just play my gamecube games on my component wii :)
That is honestly a great way to play Gamecube games. Much better that you put that money into great games or get a Wii U with that money. Wii games look great played on the Wii U as well. It's nice that Nintendo has provided backwards compatibility with the Wii line of systems.
If im not mistaken, using the component cables on the Wii and then playing GameCube games on them is just the same as having the cable on the actual GameCube. If authenticity is your thing, thats fine, but there is a way around to spending over $100 for a cable, at least im pretty sure.
zephiel123 Well you can't play the game boy player on the Wii, i really dont care for authenticity. I'd just want to play my GBA games in really nice quality on my TV
The Monster brand svideo cable is much more robust and shielded (than the nintendo brand) with gold plated connectors, great picture quality on snes n64 and gamecube
The third party S-video cables do indeed suck. They caused some major quality loss for me, such as annoying diagonal lines running through the picture. I think it's a combination of the thinner, lower-quality wires and having both S-video and composite plugs on the end. The official S-video cable has only an S-video plug (not composite). I think having both plugs causes quality loss along the same lines as using cable splitters (which are never recommended since it splits and deteriorates the signal).
I just watched all three parts and loved em all. Especially love your views on the Wii Mini. The last segment of part 3 you were talking about how you don't recommend switches anymore due to the additional impedance. This got me to thinking and I am wondering what are your views on using an AV surround sound receiver as a switch?
i may be mistaken about this but since an AV receiver has its own power supply, i don't think much if any impedance would be added to the signal. it's the switchboxes that act only as a coupler that tend to add the the impedance (albeit a negligible amount).
impedance is not the same as noise. impedance is electrically almost identical to resistance. the reason why it seems to add noise is that it weakens the video signal itself and makes the already present external interference noise larger by comparison. you can overcome this either with better shielded cables, or by using a switch box which contains signal amplifiers. even wrapping your cables in a layer of grounded aluminum foil should help with this.
How do you feel about composite to hdmi upscalers? I know that older consoles would still look better on a CRT, but mine is from the 1980's and the screen is a little off. I was thinking of moving my systems to a room with only a flat screen and just get an upscaler so they look good on my lcd tv (It's 24", so it shouldn't look too stretched). Light gun games aren't really an issue, since I don't play them too often.
because there is some video problems with switch boxes and i hate going all the way to my entertainment setup to switch to an other input.i use a big crt tv whit 9 input for composite or RGB that work pretty well but it takes a lot of space in a room but far less space in the cabling
My ps2 came with a cable that outputs composite and s video simultaneously. It can connect to PS 1, 2, 3, Xbox 360, and Wii. Works just fine. I’m looking to get an original, but my system bundle was free at a thrift store, so whatcha gonna do?
With my Wii I am using a HDMI 2 Wii adapter which acts as component cables and it plugs into the AV port on the Wii and uses an HDMI port instead of component cables which is nice because there are TVs out there that are doing away with component video ports. I had a set of 3rd party component cables and darn things didn't work for crap it messed up the colors.
Some 3rd party video cables can add noise because of the two signals not being properly shielded in the wire. It does seem that some 3rd party cables however don't do this and do add better picture, like mn12bird's. My advice is not to buy the cheapest one.
I own a original silver GameCube (the same one you do) and it has the component video out but I don't understand why they cost almost 300$??? You can get a Wii one for 10$!!
With a Sharp Turbo Twin Famicom (AN-505BK), you get composite video out, a power indicator LED, optional turbo fire, and the controller 2 microphone all in one unit. Refurbished, working examples cost about $120-140 on eBay.
i have heard about it but i'm skeptical that it was an official release by nintendo. every picture i've seen of it looks like some one did it themselves (particularly the stickers on the bottom of the console). have you read anything that proves it was an official release by Nintendo? i've heard that nintendo sent it to people who tried to send in their console for repair because of the vertical lines that its poor video signal produced.
I jump with joy everytime I see your name in my feed. Thank you for making these videos! Watching your stuff is always a nice trip down memory lane and most of the time I even learn a few new things. You're one of my favourite youtubers, definitely up there with the Happy Console Gamer and Game Chasers. Take care, man!
i appreciate the kind words. i wish i had time to produce more content.
It's fine, your videos are worth the wait
@@yauy How do Virtual Console games look on the Wii through component cables? Are they stratched to 16:9? Or are they presented in their original 4:3 aspect ratio?
Some of the later CRT TV's had component video and even HDMI inputs (They did make a few HD CRT's).
I've personally never had any problems with aftermarket S-Video cables.
I used the GameStop branded universal S-Video cable with my PS1, SNES, N64, and GameCube (since I can't afford the component cable). Not sure what everyone else has experienced, but I have not had any issues with the cable, no internal components blowing, and a much better picture than using composite. If I can find the genuine Nintendo S-Video cable, I will definitely use that to see if the quality is better.
By the way, component can do HD, if the device sending the signal and device displaying the signal support it, though not quite as clear/vibrant a quality as some other HD connections. You can certainly get 720p (and apparently even 1080p, or possibly higher) out of component though, and ED (480p and some others) if a TV supports it, though no one really talks about ED (it's still noticeably different quality/sharpness over 480i. Text designed with only HD screens in mind are actually readable in ED). However, not all TVs with component support higher than 480i, and not all devices that can output to component can send a higher signal.
Which goes to the other clarification, you will not get HD (or any other type of signal) out of a system that is not designed to make such a resolution output. You can mod the system so that you can use a connector that can also do HD, but the signal itself from the system will never be HD. The only way somewhat around this is to use a signal converter and upscaler, and possibly some software filtering, to change the signal to a higher resolution, but the system will not be the one providing that signal. The additional work is something that was a selling point for the Retron 5, as you may recall, but that, again, involved extra upscaling and software filtering on the Retron 5s part that the original systems do not do. Many TVs will do upscaling of any signal that comes into them as well, though not a lot else and it's sometimes pretty slow on the TV side (creating latency). In short: HDMI connection =/= HD. It can carry lower resolution signals just as well (easier, really).
I really wish that the gamecube component cables werent so expensive, especially as a teenage collector. i cant just drop $150-250 on a video cable, so i'll just play my gamecube games on my component wii :)
That is honestly a great way to play Gamecube games. Much better that you put that money into great games or get a Wii U with that money. Wii games look great played on the Wii U as well. It's nice that Nintendo has provided backwards compatibility with the Wii line of systems.
If im not mistaken, using the component cables on the Wii and then playing GameCube games on them is just the same as having the cable on the actual GameCube. If authenticity is your thing, thats fine, but there is a way around to spending over $100 for a cable, at least im pretty sure.
zephiel123 Well you can't play the game boy player on the Wii, i really dont care for authenticity. I'd just want to play my GBA games in really nice quality on my TV
Sailing Whisper Ah i see. Im glad i ordered my cables back in the day when i did. If i knew they would have become so rare..i would have bought more.
Sailing Whisper There are ways to play Gameboy on your TV with great resolution that dont involve the gameboy player :)
The Monster brand svideo cable is much more robust and shielded (than the nintendo brand) with gold plated connectors, great picture quality on snes n64 and gamecube
The third party S-video cables do indeed suck. They caused some major quality loss for me, such as annoying diagonal lines running through the picture. I think it's a combination of the thinner, lower-quality wires and having both S-video and composite plugs on the end. The official S-video cable has only an S-video plug (not composite). I think having both plugs causes quality loss along the same lines as using cable splitters (which are never recommended since it splits and deteriorates the signal).
I just watched all three parts and loved em all. Especially love your views on the Wii Mini. The last segment of part 3 you were talking about how you don't recommend switches anymore due to the additional impedance. This got me to thinking and I am wondering what are your views on using an AV surround sound receiver as a switch?
i may be mistaken about this but since an AV receiver has its own power supply, i don't think much if any impedance would be added to the signal. it's the switchboxes that act only as a coupler that tend to add the the impedance (albeit a negligible amount).
impedance is not the same as noise. impedance is electrically almost identical to resistance. the reason why it seems to add noise is that it weakens the video signal itself and makes the already present external interference noise larger by comparison. you can overcome this either with better shielded cables, or by using a switch box which contains signal amplifiers. even wrapping your cables in a layer of grounded aluminum foil should help with this.
in audio this problem is really easy to solve: turn up the volumes on everything connected to the splitter/mixer. in video not so much
By the way, if you want to use Component Cables with GameCube games you can buy the Original Wii models if you have the newer GameCube consoles
How do you feel about composite to hdmi upscalers? I know that older consoles would still look better on a CRT, but mine is from the 1980's and the screen is a little off. I was thinking of moving my systems to a room with only a flat screen and just get an upscaler so they look good on my lcd tv (It's 24", so it shouldn't look too stretched). Light gun games aren't really an issue, since I don't play them too often.
My grandma had a CRT with component video
because there is some video problems with switch boxes and i hate going all the way to my entertainment setup to switch to an other input.i use a big crt tv whit 9 input for composite or RGB that work pretty well but it takes a lot of space in a room but far less space in the cabling
My ps2 came with a cable that outputs composite and s video simultaneously. It can connect to PS 1, 2, 3, Xbox 360, and Wii. Works just fine. I’m looking to get an original, but my system bundle was free at a thrift store, so whatcha gonna do?
With my Wii I am using a HDMI 2 Wii adapter which acts as component cables and it plugs into the AV port on the Wii and uses an HDMI port instead of component cables which is nice because there are TVs out there that are doing away with component video ports. I had a set of 3rd party component cables and darn things didn't work for crap it messed up the colors.
Svideo famicom cable can you use in famicom top loader?
Some 3rd party video cables can add noise because of the two signals not being properly shielded in the wire. It does seem that some 3rd party cables however don't do this and do add better picture, like mn12bird's. My advice is not to buy the cheapest one.
I've used the RF cable on my flat screen, and it didn't even look that bad.
Awesome!!!
Where could u buy an s video cable?
Where's part 2? Has it been deleted?
Dol-001 is the type that has digital port and multi out, meanwhile dol-101 only has multi out
I own a original silver GameCube (the same one you do) and it has the component video out but I don't understand why they cost almost 300$??? You can get a Wii one for 10$!!
With a Sharp Turbo Twin Famicom (AN-505BK), you get composite video out, a power indicator LED, optional turbo fire, and the controller 2 microphone all in one unit. Refurbished, working examples cost about $120-140 on eBay.
Where would you find an audio splitter?
you can search for them on amazon or ebay. if you live in the united states, stores such as radio shack them.
Yauy, have you heard that there is an extremely rare variant of the NES 2 which has AV out?
i have heard about it but i'm skeptical that it was an official release by nintendo. every picture i've seen of it looks like some one did it themselves (particularly the stickers on the bottom of the console). have you read anything that proves it was an official release by Nintendo? i've heard that nintendo sent it to people who tried to send in their console for repair because of the vertical lines that its poor video signal produced.
World of Nintendo I haven't seen anything about it, but I agree, it does seem a bit skeptical to me.
It's real.
It’s real but you can make your own by soldering the av port from the Famicom av to the NES 2 and use the plastic piece from the Famicom av.
@11:10 the wii does hav HD, but only 480p......
+John Romeroso 480p isn't hd
RF looks ok on a CRT so my original OG famicom is ok.
Lol, $80 GCN component cables... if only they were that cheap!
You sound exactly like Matthew Broderick.
TOMEE Products are "Thumbs Down." I bought a KO SNES controller to work on my PC, and and lasted only a month.
Buy a SNES to USB adapter and use a real controller.
I'm pretty sure your opinion about "Wii2HDMI" would also be negative.
www.cnet.com/products/neoya-wii2hdmi-converter-for-wii-console/
yeah... it's not original hardware and based on the review, it doesn't improve the video quality.