I had a TV in the United States when I was a kid that had a scart port on it. There were 2 models of TV's here that had them, The RGB wasn't that great on one, The other TV wasn't even wired for RGB. Sony put a few TV's out in the US in the 80s with RGB sockets that look like IDE sockets on them but NONE of these TV's were cheap and thus didn't sell very well. There was a run of Mitsubishi projection televisions that were meant for Japanese distribution that accidentally got sent over here with RGB 21 sockets on them that my dad ended up with. Which had great RGB. So we didn't get totally shafted, But we got shafted enough.
Ronald! Keep rocking! Those Ghostbuster games RULE! Mark Plott -- Grab an N8 from Krikkz... I only need that one cart! William Hetherington -- I've commented on plenty of videos. ;) Bironzilla --- I didn't have noticeable lag.
Even game consoles with standard S-video use an encoder chip that sources from RGB. That’s what the Nintendo S-ENC, Sony CXA-whatever, etc chips do. They also encode component, composite, and normalize the RGB output.
Actually that´s the good thing about it so it makes it easy to tap into the let´s say Sony CXA´s and similar to just add an simple rgb output (like on the N64) with some simple THS amp in between.
TekTherapy Exactly. This is often done even when a console has RGB because our RGB and S-video circuits can actually be better than the original. Because the NES didn’t have RGB in the first place, this has a lot more in common with an RGB bypass amp where you replace the original encoder too. Many consoles have such poorly implemented encoder circuitry that you have to do this for decent RGB. Of course, the NESRGB has to replace the entire PPU and replicate its functionality in order to generate RGB since the composite conversion happens inside the same chip that generates the graphics. My understanding is that the old PPU is there just in case you want to disable NESRGB. To clarify, I was responding to Adam’s implication that the S-video was somehow less than other S-video implementations simply because it was sourced from RGB and encoded/converted. It always is for game consoles with S-video. IOW: A game console with S-video from RGB is not an inferior kind of S-video: it’s the only kind.
I used to have an NES back in the 90’s in Fresno CA and here In Florida in 2003-2004 I played this NES in Mrs Ambrose’s class at Time Creek high school in Orlando
Still watching, at one time I had one fixed so you didn't have to push the cart down, it helped a little.....now that I've watched more I see you did it, I had it done like 15 years ago, wish I was on TH-cam back then :(
i have to agree.. the amount of people that dont know the different between graphics, and picture clarity! its crazy! Your NES looks gorgeous with RGB dude...
How to improve the reliability of the NES, get a NES 2/Famicom AV then RGB mod them instead ;) All jokes aside If you're based in the U.K. a great modder for the NES is oldskoolconsoles. He does both RGB and HDMI mods for the NES and N64.
I had a Blinking Light Win installed in my HDMI modded NES. Worked fantastic, but I eventually got rid of it. Not because it didn't work, but because I missed the nostalgia of pushing the game down to play it every time.
Very good quality! I wish that HD Retrovision guys saw this video and make some cable with a mod within it, like the original component cable for Game Cube, that would be nice
Basically not doable in that sense, cause the Retrovision Cable(s) use the RGB Output of an RGB capable console (like almost all Sega Consoles and the SNES and so on) and transcodes it´s to component. but the NES doesn´t have any RGB Signal on a stock unit before installing the kit in it. What you can do is transcode the composite signal via an let´s say cable with integrated curcuitry (or cheap scaler) to hdmi but the quality will be poor. You can clean composite up somewhat but in the end it will be just composite.
The cable is a standard min din8 cable. Which is the same pinout as the xrgb mini. I have build a lot of them myself. You can also get a new cable for it from Tim the creator of NESRGB board himself. etim.net.au
Most of the RetroN5’s emulators were not stolen because there were no non-commercial provisions in their open source licenses. The SNES emulator, on the other hand, is based on SNES9x, which has a non-commercial provision.
I bent my pins back up, which was a pain to do, but now I just slide the cart in with out even having to push down on the tray and it works. Hasn't anybody else ever tried that?
Thank you for posting this. I know NOTHING about scart and RGB or Tim Worthington but I’ve seen these names so many times, I just didn’t care because my NES days were long passed other than I have a modded NES mini for the semi but I wanted to purchase a modded NES because I knew it would be the best way to play on my CRT at home from watching other videos and this video helped a lot. Within the last year I’ve gotten into the homebrew scene and also picked up a bunch of previously unreleased games from other countries with the translations but I haven’t had the chance to play them. Now I’m purchasing a pretty stacked console. I think it’ll be worth the price. Thank you
for the cartridge connection issues, i'm a purist on stuff like that, so i wanted to keep the functionality of pushing down to make it work. I found a method online where you boil the 72-pin connector in 50/50 water and white vinegar for 30 minutes, and that was supposed to straighten the pins and clean them at the same time. To my surprise, IT WORKED (after letting it dry of course). I got it form working 20% of the time to 90% of the time. I then cleaned my cartridges and now it works like new. 100% fixed. of course i'll have to do it again, but its been a year and i still haven't had anymore issues, so it'll probably be a while. Unless you threw away your og 72 pin connecter and bought a cheap new one, then your screwed. those things barely last a month.
S-Video ain't too far off from RGB. If your RGB cable broke on that rare occasion, S-Video is a huge step up in the NES at least compared to composite. Obviously some consoles benefit differently but the NES is quite significant!
Watching this video on my iphone ,i can hardly see any difference between composite & rgb but on a big hd tv screen, the difference between compposite & rgb is HUGE, no blurrynesss,no color bleeding, no checkerbord artifacts between solid colors,no noise,no cold colors. Rgb is mind blowing. Regardless of nintendo’s policy’s these day’s their policy’s are BULLSHIT.
We did one of these recently. When I saw the video I thought, 'did I send Adam a NES'? haha. It came out great, but I agree the 72 pin chip is really annoying. We also did a HDMI mod, but since then that particular console sold out and the boards themselves are sold out as well. It is better than the RGB though (much easier). If you get one, send it to us and we can install it for you.
I prefer the RGB mod kit myself when i offer it to my costumers, cause Tim has the rgb kits almost always on stock. The HDMI mod is offcourse i piece of cake to install compared to the RGB mod i agree on that !
You can probably change the connector on the NES to the same one used on the Mega Drive 2 and have an endless supply of RGB cables that way. I used that connector, which is a 9 pin Mini DIN, on my Master System 2 when I RGB modded it and the results are fantastic (the Master System II, although it "only" has an RF port, has native RGB on board that you can access directly, as the french SECAM version has RGB instead of RF, and it's just basically like 5 solder points and that's it... no additional boards needed or anything... very simple mod) And yes, the HDMI mod is a fantastic option, but some people prefer to play these old consoles on CRT TVs or the first generation of LCD TVs that had the same aspect ratio (which is what I use for my old consoles, mainly because of limited space, but still gives an image that reminds you of CRT), or on PVM/BVM monitors... for those options, the RGB mod is still very much valid, especially in Europe where we have SCART on those TVs... in America it might be a bit more of a headache, with no CRTs with RGB connectors on them except the expensive PVM/BVM monitors...
People complaining about reliability should just clean their damn pin connectors. Yes the will slowly bend over time but most of the problems are due to dirty connectors. I currently have 4 cleaned NES front loaders and they all work 100% of the time with all my (also cleaned) games. My main NES was cleaned about 1.5 year ago and it still works 100% of the time on the first try.
Someday I need to get my NES modded with: Blinking Light Win, direct stereo audio, expansion audio support (Gimmick), NESRGB mod with component output, and Everdrive N8 plugged into my CRT that supports 240P over component.
I have yet to run a NES in RGB OR hdmi. I have seen what RGB can do for a console though. On my Genesis I use the HD retrovision Component cables and DAMN! JUST DAMN! The improvement is quite stunning. Eventually I will go RGB of some sort for all my machines the only thing holding me back is a serious case of be broke.
I prefer SCART to an HDMI-only system, like the AVS. SCART looks wonderful through a Framemeister, but I can also use it to play on my PVM, which I love using.
Also for all your systems that use cartridges, don’t leave your games in them. When you are done playing remove the cart. It will spare the connectors in the console from bending over time.
No mention of the revised NES top loaders or PAL NES toploaders? Some customers complained about the bad video quality of the NES-101, so Nintendo sent units with revised boards as replacements. All the PAL versions have this revised board. The PPU and CPU have been rearranged so that there is no video noise or jail bars. I have the PAL NES top loader, and I have to say that for RF it looks beautiful. th-cam.com/video/01M7vl_EppE/w-d-xo.html
How about the top loader nes? I got mine modded and playing with HD retrovision cable. Image is amazing and no need to fix the pin issue, since the top loader is .. well a top loader!
i think im gunna get the blinking light win... mine had a new tray put in but i didnt notice much of a difference/.//and i guess because of how they bend thats why..thanks for passing this info along
*Correction:* RCA included a SCART input (labeled "EIA multiport") on some North American television models from its high-end Dimensia line in the 1980s and 1990s. Unfortunately, no RGB support was present.
Keep your catridges clean, keep your connector clean, and you'll probably have far less trouble than anyone who doesn't. I have the very occasional failed boot with my NES, some games worse than others, but for the most part it's been reliable. I love the shitty/silly loading mechanism, I'd rather just persevere with any potential trouble it could give me rather than replace it for something boring.
Was one of the Early adopter of the OSSC I really like it. Even If I only have a DVI out and no sound to the video (Wich is a none issue for me as everything is hooked in Stereo)
Nope it not: iT will be; they bought all the last chip to do the XRGB mini, but I pretty sure that they will not try to replace it. Event is that they best product in term of sale.
I appreciate the painstaking lengths you went through for this but why travel several thousand miles, twice, when you could have shipped it or something? Heck even do it more locally, i remember when you referred me to that ebay guy to get my snes jr modded (which looked fantastic). Were you just looking for an excuse to travel? ;)
Very informative video, thank you. I've always been curious, why is it bad to blow in the game cartridges? I've heard people say not to do it before but just didn't know why.
Makes sense. Thanks for the reply, man. That's the most straight up answer I've gotten on that topic. Oh and I love your videos. I've been watching for a while now. Definitely one of the best o.g. hardware / gaming industry economics channels on TH-cam.
You almost made it sound like europeans had rgb scart cables readily available even way back then. That was not the case and we where mostly using rf or in rare instances composite.
I don't consider the NES to be "unreliable". Even with bad pins, enough jiggling around of the cart and cleaning of the cart, eventually you get it working...90% of the time at least. But there are times when you will not have any other option but to replace the pins which is VERY easy....however, the real unreliable console was the Xbox 360....Wow...they just DIE...and you gotta reflow them, IF you have the knowledge on how to do that and that isn't NEAR as easy as taking a few screws out of an NES and replace a connector...but the NES has lasted for 30+ years now...Xbox 360s were dying out of the box!
can you post your framemeiser setting? I have 2 hi-def nes... they rock. The blinking light win has way to much grip... Oh well it's a trade off i guess.
Man I had an nes a few years back (sold it like a dumb ass) but it had this awesome problem where you didn't have to push the cartridge down you just slid it in and it worked (and no when I bought it it didn't do that)
Im sorry for this very unrelated question, but in your experience which Dreamcast console revision do you see the least? 0's, 1's, or 2's? Very good video by the way!
Adam Koralik Wow! I figured 2's were just as common as 1's. Recently I bought a Dreamcast off of Amazon and it happens to be a revision 2. I found out after it wouldn't read my burned copy of Codebreaker.
Ur video rocked as always and i got my snes to work with composite cable from game cube i had no idea it would work but it did case i still have af that it came with and i really wanted to play snes on my vizo smart tv so thats what i did best i could do at the time i wish i could use another input without moding the snes but i honestly dont know any that would look better
Seriously not going to be "that" guy but there is something nostalgic about composite or RF in my case being in the UK, but I agree RGB looks hell of a lot clearer. As I said there is just something about the static, colour bleeding and general shittyness of the image I find appealing.
Is it possible to mod the NES Top loader for RGB? I have an original model NES, but it's dead, not even a blinking light win could save it now. I do have a top loader though and it works perfectly, but since it only has RF output, it's almost unbearable to play games on. So I'd like to have it modded for RGB or at the very least S-video.
You say HDMI mod is better? What about input lag isn't it better in rgb? And the pixel distortion in HDMI? How can you say it's better in hdmi? Shouldn't it be better the way the creator intended it to be?
To be fair, I don't own one of the HDMI modded units. I got to see it in action a couple times. But the point I was making was that when I got this, it was already out of date. To be honest, I now use an AVS anyway. And no, mods exist to improve things.
@@AdamKoralik I have an avs coming in an analogue not mini and an nes rgb all coming in can't wait to test them all out. I also just got a pvm moniter! All I know up to know is that I'm loving it with an old pvm and composite! I can only imagine how good it will be with rgb. Analog is so fast compared to emulation crap. All these years I forgot the feeling of the real hardware. Pvm is nice real nice compared to CRT TV just a little small to enjoy from a couch
@@AdamKoralik thanks man these freaken retro console became a drug within 2 weeks all because of this virus. It all started when my wife said it feels slow lol. Now I'm mad so I want perfextion!
Why on earth would the HDMI board solution be so definitively "better"? I had the option to go that way but went NESRGB so I can have it (along w/ my 16-bit consoles) running into an OSSC (and then 5x upscale it).
I guess it depends, not everyone want´s to run a scaler behind the console. But i agree with you, i basically just do NES RGB mods and i prefer running all my RGB modded consoles an High END Crt´s or CRT Projectors without any scaling at all. And if needed an OSSC behind it to modify everything to my choosing.
Bob Possibly. I'm using a Japanese N64 on a PAL CRT. Composite works fine, and the quality is alright. S-Video looks completely fucked up. The colours are all wrong, and there's weird artefacts.
I had a TV in the United States when I was a kid that had a scart port on it. There were 2 models of TV's here that had them, The RGB wasn't that great on one, The other TV wasn't even wired for RGB. Sony put a few TV's out in the US in the 80s with RGB sockets that look like IDE sockets on them but NONE of these TV's were cheap and thus didn't sell very well. There was a run of Mitsubishi projection televisions that were meant for Japanese distribution that accidentally got sent over here with RGB 21 sockets on them that my dad ended up with. Which had great RGB. So we didn't get totally shafted, But we got shafted enough.
I had both the RGB NES and now I have the hdmi nes... they both are amazing upgrades from rf and composite.
Scott the Canadian cool I've never seen you comment before! fellow Canadian here :-)
I have a HDMI NES from china with 800 games on 3 Cartriges.
You should go back to the video and listen to what it said...
Also the Converter is those HDMI board is terrible for lag...
Yo Scott!
Ronald! Keep rocking! Those Ghostbuster games RULE!
Mark Plott -- Grab an N8 from Krikkz... I only need that one cart!
William Hetherington -- I've commented on plenty of videos. ;)
Bironzilla --- I didn't have noticeable lag.
Even game consoles with standard S-video use an encoder chip that sources from RGB. That’s what the Nintendo S-ENC, Sony CXA-whatever, etc chips do. They also encode component, composite, and normalize the RGB output.
Actually that´s the good thing about it so it makes it easy to tap into the let´s say Sony CXA´s and similar to just add an simple rgb output (like on the N64) with some simple THS amp in between.
TekTherapy Exactly. This is often done even when a console has RGB because our RGB and S-video circuits can actually be better than the original. Because the NES didn’t have RGB in the first place, this has a lot more in common with an RGB bypass amp where you replace the original encoder too. Many consoles have such poorly implemented encoder circuitry that you have to do this for decent RGB.
Of course, the NESRGB has to replace the entire PPU and replicate its functionality in order to generate RGB since the composite conversion happens inside the same chip that generates the graphics. My understanding is that the old PPU is there just in case you want to disable NESRGB.
To clarify, I was responding to Adam’s implication that the S-video was somehow less than other S-video implementations simply because it was sourced from RGB and encoded/converted. It always is for game consoles with S-video. IOW: A game console with S-video from RGB is not an inferior kind of S-video: it’s the only kind.
I used to have an NES back in the 90’s in Fresno CA and here In Florida in 2003-2004 I played this NES in Mrs Ambrose’s class at Time Creek high school in Orlando
I know this is an old comment but I knew a bunch of people from Timber Creek when I went to both Dr. Phillip and then Lake Howell. Lol small world.
Still watching, at one time I had one fixed so you didn't have to push the cart down, it helped a little.....now that I've watched more I see you did it, I had it done like 15 years ago, wish I was on TH-cam back then :(
You are the RGB scart king :)
i have to agree.. the amount of people that dont know the different between graphics, and picture clarity! its crazy!
Your NES looks gorgeous with RGB dude...
Thanks.
How to improve the reliability of the NES, get a NES 2/Famicom AV then RGB mod them instead ;)
All jokes aside If you're based in the U.K. a great modder for the NES is oldskoolconsoles. He does both RGB and HDMI mods for the NES and N64.
dylan craven got my nes hdmi modded and blinky light win fix by him not problems what so ever.
I had a Blinking Light Win installed in my HDMI modded NES. Worked fantastic, but I eventually got rid of it. Not because it didn't work, but because I missed the nostalgia of pushing the game down to play it every time.
Very good quality! I wish that HD Retrovision guys saw this video and make some cable with a mod within it, like the original component cable for Game Cube, that would be nice
Basically not doable in that sense, cause the Retrovision Cable(s) use the RGB Output of an RGB capable console (like almost all Sega Consoles and the SNES and so on) and transcodes it´s to component. but the NES doesn´t have any RGB Signal on a stock unit before installing the kit in it. What you can do is transcode the composite signal via an let´s say cable with integrated curcuitry (or cheap scaler) to hdmi but the quality will be poor. You can clean composite up somewhat but in the end it will be just composite.
TekTherapy Damn :(
And I'm here still using rf.......
I can confirm the master system looks great on a CRT using rgb scart :)
The cable is a standard min din8 cable. Which is the same pinout as the xrgb mini. I have build a lot of them myself. You can also get a new cable for it from Tim the creator of NESRGB board himself. etim.net.au
Most of the RetroN5’s emulators were not stolen because there were no non-commercial provisions in their open source licenses. The SNES emulator, on the other hand, is based on SNES9x, which has a non-commercial provision.
Jeeze, the jump from composite to S-Video is huge too.
I bent my pins back up, which was a pain to do, but now I just slide the cart in with out even having to push down on the tray and it works. Hasn't anybody else ever tried that?
Thank you for posting this. I know NOTHING about scart and RGB or Tim Worthington but I’ve seen these names so many times, I just didn’t care because my NES days were long passed other than I have a modded NES mini for the semi but I wanted to purchase a modded NES because I knew it would be the best way to play on my CRT at home from watching other videos and this video helped a lot. Within the last year I’ve gotten into the homebrew scene and also picked up a bunch of previously unreleased games from other countries with the translations but I haven’t had the chance to play them. Now I’m purchasing a pretty stacked console. I think it’ll be worth the price. Thank you
for the cartridge connection issues, i'm a purist on stuff like that, so i wanted to keep the functionality of pushing down to make it work. I found a method online where you boil the 72-pin connector in 50/50 water and white vinegar for 30 minutes, and that was supposed to straighten the pins and clean them at the same time. To my surprise, IT WORKED (after letting it dry of course). I got it form working 20% of the time to 90% of the time. I then cleaned my cartridges and now it works like new. 100% fixed. of course i'll have to do it again, but its been a year and i still haven't had anymore issues, so it'll probably be a while. Unless you threw away your og 72 pin connecter and bought a cheap new one, then your screwed. those things barely last a month.
S-Video ain't too far off from RGB. If your RGB cable broke on that rare occasion, S-Video is a huge step up in the NES at least compared to composite. Obviously some consoles benefit differently but the NES is quite significant!
Watching this video on my iphone ,i can hardly see any difference between composite & rgb but on a big hd tv screen, the difference between compposite & rgb is HUGE, no blurrynesss,no color bleeding, no checkerbord artifacts between solid colors,no noise,no cold colors.
Rgb is mind blowing.
Regardless of nintendo’s policy’s these day’s their policy’s are BULLSHIT.
We did one of these recently. When I saw the video I thought, 'did I send Adam a NES'? haha. It came out great, but I agree the 72 pin chip is really annoying. We also did a HDMI mod, but since then that particular console sold out and the boards themselves are sold out as well. It is better than the RGB though (much easier). If you get one, send it to us and we can install it for you.
I prefer the RGB mod kit myself when i offer it to my costumers, cause Tim has the rgb kits almost always on stock. The HDMI mod is offcourse i piece of cake to install compared to the RGB mod i agree on that !
You can probably change the connector on the NES to the same one used on the Mega Drive 2 and have an endless supply of RGB cables that way. I used that connector, which is a 9 pin Mini DIN, on my Master System 2 when I RGB modded it and the results are fantastic (the Master System II, although it "only" has an RF port, has native RGB on board that you can access directly, as the french SECAM version has RGB instead of RF, and it's just basically like 5 solder points and that's it... no additional boards needed or anything... very simple mod)
And yes, the HDMI mod is a fantastic option, but some people prefer to play these old consoles on CRT TVs or the first generation of LCD TVs that had the same aspect ratio (which is what I use for my old consoles, mainly because of limited space, but still gives an image that reminds you of CRT), or on PVM/BVM monitors... for those options, the RGB mod is still very much valid, especially in Europe where we have SCART on those TVs... in America it might be a bit more of a headache, with no CRTs with RGB connectors on them except the expensive PVM/BVM monitors...
People complaining about reliability should just clean their damn pin connectors. Yes the will slowly bend over time but most of the problems are due to dirty connectors. I currently have 4 cleaned NES front loaders and they all work 100% of the time with all my (also cleaned) games. My main NES was cleaned about 1.5 year ago and it still works 100% of the time on the first try.
Congrats! Welcome to the club. The hdmi cant do light guns so there is one reason to treasure these mods.
Someday I need to get my NES modded with: Blinking Light Win, direct stereo audio, expansion audio support (Gimmick), NESRGB mod with component output, and Everdrive N8 plugged into my CRT that supports 240P over component.
I have yet to run a NES in RGB OR hdmi. I have seen what RGB can do for a console though. On my Genesis I use the HD retrovision Component cables and DAMN! JUST DAMN! The improvement is quite stunning. Eventually I will go RGB of some sort for all my machines the only thing holding me back is a serious case of be broke.
I prefer SCART to an HDMI-only system, like the AVS. SCART looks wonderful through a Framemeister, but I can also use it to play on my PVM, which I love using.
That background noise in the video - do you live under O'Hare, too?
Yes. Makes it easy to get to flights.
I'd love to get an RGB modded Famicom HVC-101 / AV Famicom eventually.
Mod is doable on basically every unit.
Awesome video Adam!
mtshark7 who are you!? :)
lol...I'm Mark the game shark :-)
Also for all your systems that use cartridges, don’t leave your games in them. When you are done playing remove the cart. It will spare the connectors in the console from bending over time.
No mention of the revised NES top loaders or PAL NES toploaders? Some customers complained about the bad video quality of the NES-101, so Nintendo sent units with revised boards as replacements. All the PAL versions have this revised board. The PPU and CPU have been rearranged so that there is no video noise or jail bars. I have the PAL NES top loader, and I have to say that for RF it looks beautiful.
th-cam.com/video/01M7vl_EppE/w-d-xo.html
How about the top loader nes? I got mine modded and playing with HD retrovision cable. Image is amazing and no need to fix the pin issue, since the top loader is .. well a top loader!
I have the Analogue NT (with HDMI) as my solution, the one with real NES hardware. Not the FPGA one. Love it.
Wish I could afford an HDMI mod for my retro consoles.:(
The biggest problem with the rgb mod is people charge way to much to have them modded.
Actually a big chunk of the cost of the mod is the rgb kit itself. Same goes for the latter HDMI mod.
The Rgb Kit from Tim is 75 USD plus Shipping from Australia (in my case plus shipping to Austria,Europe).
TekTherapy hmm sure but most times they sell for 300 to 350 which is just crazy to me.
Just bought ( a mint boxed)1 of these. Awaiting its arrival :)
Adam I think you forgot to put the link to the modder.
It´s aaaa me ;-)) Not Mario.. but the modder..
HDMI might look better but SCART has no latency on a CRT.
I installed a Blinking Light Win Kit. Works wonders.
i think im gunna get the blinking light win... mine had a new tray put in but i didnt notice much of a difference/.//and i guess because of how they bend thats why..thanks for passing this info along
Hey the Super Retro Trio is a beast!!!! It works almost 99%
Hey Adam, what do you think of the repeal of net neutrality?
America went from 12th to 6th in global internet speed after Net Neutrality ended. So you tell me. What do you think?
@@hualni I wish
Would love a rgb modded top loader
*Correction:* RCA included a SCART input (labeled "EIA multiport") on some North American television models from its high-end Dimensia line in the 1980s and 1990s. Unfortunately, no RGB support was present.
when I see this kind of thing I remember that guy of the meme "STOP! THIS NEEDS TO STOP!"
This looks amazing if you'd showed it to me 87' i would go nuts. Also a great but pricy option you forgot to mention is the avs.
How often should you clean your consoles? Every 4 or 5 years?
Keep your catridges clean, keep your connector clean, and you'll probably have far less trouble than anyone who doesn't. I have the very occasional failed boot with my NES, some games worse than others, but for the most part it's been reliable. I love the shitty/silly loading mechanism, I'd rather just persevere with any potential trouble it could give me rather than replace it for something boring.
Is Improve The Picture! going to be a series of sorts?
Can't say I planned on it.
Adam Koralik Well, I'll still watch if it does!
I'd love to see it! Just like My life in gaming channel does!
I just wish the framemeister was not so damn expensive :(
AlphaMax Look into the OSSC. Been updated big time. $200. I'm picking it over the Framemister now.
And the Framemeister is gone anyway. The stopped production a while ago. I agree get the OSSC it´s getting frequent updates and is much cheaper.
Was one of the Early adopter of the OSSC I really like it. Even If I only have a DVI out and no sound to the video (Wich is a none issue for me as everything is hooked in Stereo)
Nope it not: iT will be; they bought all the last chip to do the XRGB mini, but I pretty sure that they will not try to replace it.
Event is that they best product in term of sale.
I'm watching this because my 3DS is charging
"Zero Force Insertion" slots would've been a good idea. Instead, they went with "Billion Force Insertion".
Love the police siren at 13:03
I mean really, it’s not an Adam Koralik vid without a siren in the background. It’s happened before trust me :p.
AC Paul he should do a video outside one of these days
cool video adam
Great video Adam, thanks!
love you adam
I've played that ninja turtles game before and wow this looks sooooo much cleaner now!!!
Well well it’s about time :)
RGB looks even better on a CRT TV.
I appreciate the painstaking lengths you went through for this but why travel several thousand miles, twice, when you could have shipped it or something? Heck even do it more locally, i remember when you referred me to that ebay guy to get my snes jr modded (which looked fantastic). Were you just looking for an excuse to travel? ;)
It's not like that's WHY I traveled. It was just an amusing thing that happened as a result.
And just shipping it wouldn´t be as much fun anyway..
Very informative video, thank you. I've always been curious, why is it bad to blow in the game cartridges? I've heard people say not to do it before but just didn't know why.
Eric Evan spit reacts with the metal pins and corrodes them basically.
Moisture from your breath corrodes pins over time. Doing it is...not wise.
Makes sense. Thanks for the reply, man. That's the most straight up answer I've gotten on that topic. Oh and I love your videos. I've been watching for a while now. Definitely one of the best o.g. hardware / gaming industry economics channels on TH-cam.
I could live with a s-video mod looked very nice to me.
So Nintendo is still fighting the free publicity. Damn what a bunch of complete nimrods.
You almost made it sound like europeans had rgb scart cables readily available even way back then. That was not the case and we where mostly using rf or in rare instances composite.
I'm simply saying the option existed.
I got my "kid" brother an nes few years back and it broke. I wonder how much it would be to mod an HDMI board along with the blinking light win? 🤔
17R3W The Blinking Light Win set me back $30 and my local retro video game store offered the Hi-Def NES mod for $200 installed.
I don't consider the NES to be "unreliable". Even with bad pins, enough jiggling around of the cart and cleaning of the cart, eventually you get it working...90% of the time at least. But there are times when you will not have any other option but to replace the pins which is VERY easy....however, the real unreliable console was the Xbox 360....Wow...they just DIE...and you gotta reflow them, IF you have the knowledge on how to do that and that isn't NEAR as easy as taking a few screws out of an NES and replace a connector...but the NES has lasted for 30+ years now...Xbox 360s were dying out of the box!
Never get HDMI mods, they usually have to underclock the systems and can end up being worse than just getting an RGB mod
Great video again .Mr complete gamer
Thanks!
can you post your framemeiser setting? I have 2 hi-def nes... they rock. The blinking light win has way to much grip... Oh well it's a trade off i guess.
Man I had an nes a few years back (sold it like a dumb ass) but it had this awesome problem where you didn't have to push the cartridge down you just slid it in and it worked (and no when I bought it it didn't do that)
Most NES with a good pin connector that is not bent over time wil work this way. Mine does too.
Im sorry for this very unrelated question, but in your experience which Dreamcast console revision do you see the least? 0's, 1's, or 2's? Very good video by the way!
I have one 0, a bunch of 1st, I've never even seen a 2.
Adam Koralik Wow! I figured 2's were just as common as 1's. Recently I bought a Dreamcast off of Amazon and it happens to be a revision 2. I found out after it wouldn't read my burned copy of Codebreaker.
Good thing I enjoy videos of some kind. Haha
The s-video looks the best, nice and bright true to the original but cleaner. RGB is too dark.
Why didn't you get the HDMI mod?
logane1102 IIRC his TV hates low resolutions.
logane1102 Also he uses a Framemeister
I believe I said exactly why in the video.
adam do you have a link to the replacement cartridge thing ?
adam what about these new mini nes and snes machines... do they shoot out scart quailty over its hdmi cable??
+guessowii The NES Classic? It's just an emulator in a box.
I need my SNES outer shell repaired, but I want my Wii and model 2 Genesis modded.
Yo Adam have you lost weight bro looking good man.
+BJSSJ5 Thanks!
Ur video rocked as always and i got my snes to work with composite cable from game cube i had no idea it would work but it did case i still have af that it came with and i really wanted to play snes on my vizo smart tv so thats what i did best i could do at the time i wish i could use another input without moding the snes but i honestly dont know any that would look better
Games on OLED look way better, makes textures pop
Adam Koralik - the NES should have been SVHS out from the start. and then SNES getting SCART and the Gamecube getting scart and HDMI.
Seriously not going to be "that" guy but there is something nostalgic about composite or RF in my case being in the UK, but I agree RGB looks hell of a lot clearer. As I said there is just something about the static, colour bleeding and general shittyness of the image I find appealing.
Is it possible to mod the NES Top loader for RGB? I have an original model NES, but it's dead, not even a blinking light win could save it now. I do have a top loader though and it works perfectly, but since it only has RF output, it's almost unbearable to play games on. So I'd like to have it modded for RGB or at the very least S-video.
I think so, but it would require extra parts.
Okay, thanks for the reply.
What happened to your lapel mic?
This was shot before I did that.
Hey adam , any info about the france nes ( secam version ) that has only " rgb out " with no composite out ??
I've heard about them, never used one personally.
These units were still only capable of composite quality, unfortunately.
Rgb modded Atari 2600!
I would prefer CSYNC RGB SCART modded Atari 7800 as it can play 2600 and 7800 games thus killing two bird with one stone
maybe i am being dim but i cant see a contact anywhere in the description for ronald, would love to get this done to my av famicom!
Ronald Bodinger - shop@konsolentherapie.at
Thank you Sir ;-)
decided to ditch the lav mic huh?
No, this was shot before that.
Adam Koralik phew, I was also starting to panic
I do wonder how many games you play during a day?
I'm still so bloody clueless on this subject in general. FM is too expensive to boot.
Where do we contact Ronald below?
David Maurice Hey David, you can just drop me an email at shop@konsolentherapie.at
You say HDMI mod is better? What about input lag isn't it better in rgb? And the pixel distortion in HDMI? How can you say it's better in hdmi? Shouldn't it be better the way the creator intended it to be?
To be fair, I don't own one of the HDMI modded units. I got to see it in action a couple times. But the point I was making was that when I got this, it was already out of date. To be honest, I now use an AVS anyway.
And no, mods exist to improve things.
@@AdamKoralik I have an avs coming in an analogue not mini and an nes rgb all coming in can't wait to test them all out. I also just got a pvm moniter! All I know up to know is that I'm loving it with an old pvm and composite! I can only imagine how good it will be with rgb. Analog is so fast compared to emulation crap. All these years I forgot the feeling of the real hardware. Pvm is nice real nice compared to CRT TV just a little small to enjoy from a couch
Awesome! Enjoy it man.
@@AdamKoralik thanks man these freaken retro console became a drug within 2 weeks all because of this virus. It all started when my wife said it feels slow lol. Now I'm mad so I want perfextion!
Why on earth would the HDMI board solution be so definitively "better"? I had the option to go that way but went NESRGB so I can have it (along w/ my 16-bit consoles) running into an OSSC (and then 5x upscale it).
I guess it depends, not everyone want´s to run a scaler behind the console. But i agree with you, i basically just do NES RGB mods and i prefer running all my RGB modded consoles an High END Crt´s or CRT Projectors without any scaling at all. And if needed an OSSC behind it to modify everything to my choosing.
why didn't they just put hdmi in the nes itself, ugh 😒
Replace the edge connector and 10nes mod.
Wish the N64 supported SCART. On my CRT only composite works properly. S-Video produces fucked up colours for some reason.... :-/
Matthias Forelli bad cables?
Bob Possibly. I'm using a Japanese N64 on a PAL CRT. Composite works fine, and the quality is alright. S-Video looks completely fucked up. The colours are all wrong, and there's weird artefacts.
Actually you can mod an N64 to Rgb fairly easy and use Scart Cables than for some nice output.
TekTherapy Any guides? I looked into this and found my N64 was the wrong revision to mod for SCART.
etim.net.au/n64rgb/
Did you support Xeno Crisis on kickstarter adam?
I did.
Or if you REALLY want to go overboard, you could buy an Analogue NT and show it off to all your nerd friends.
Would the hdmi mod be compatible with my sharp twin famicom?
Yes, but the hdmi boards are out of stock. But the RGB ones work as well.
I would imagine it would lower the value but if its sentimental or whatever, go for it
Yes, i am not worried about the value as it is purely for my own use. I have no intention to resell
Nice