Based on your review I located a 2023 KLX230S with ABS and bought it. The review mentioned this is a good uncomplicated "beginner" bike. I would also like to add that it might also be called a good "Late in Life bike" as I am in my 70's and it has allowed me to easily have both feet on the ground along with the weight low to the ground coupled with ease of handling and braking.
I just saw this post, and you nailed it! I used to race moto, was never that good, but enjoyed it, so I’m thinking on the same lines on ‘age,’ I’m 59 years old, not in real good health and obviously getting older quicker then I’d like, so, even if the bike was ‘iffy’ performance wise this summer, I’d be growing into it a different way, as I get older. I hope that made sense, but yes, I totally agree with your post.
Got you by a decade and a half. I am happy with my choice of the S model and ABS. I just do not have the arm strength to keep the bike up without the ability to get both feet on the ground. ABS helps when you grab too much brake. Power in the low range is just fine for me so it does not want to rip itself out of your hands, but it will scoot when in the higher RPM range. Farkles are few and far between, but HiVolt out of Thailand has enough for me. I only wish it had a gear indicator. The high idle bothers me sometimes, but there is a fix for that which I am considering. @@MaverickAus
Ian, you missed a great opportunity to show us how a short person fits on the bike. Put your wife on the operators seat. Let us see if she can touch the ground. This bike is all about people her size.
Great review! While others usually just keep on talking about the low power, slowness, limitations, you show exactly why small bikes are so much fun. I've been riding since 20 years and I will always keep some small bikes in my stable.
Thanks Ian....I am an older, returning rider (72) and this is right up my alley. Sold my ''05 F650GS as I couldn't pick it up. I'd buy this just on the strength of your laugh during the ride.
It's always more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow! Love these styles of bikes. Everyone in the late 60's , early 70's started out on these "enduro" type bikes. Mostly two strokes but Honda had the XR's👍
She brings up a good point about the back seat passenger maybe grabbing the exhuast. That never occured to me because every motorcycle ive had all had their exhuast down lower
Hi, bought my 230 s a couple months ago here in Australia -($7700 ride away!!!). It’s my first “dirt bike” having been riding road bikes on and off most of my life. When I first got it I tried not to hate it- not used to the “tall” dirt bike type set up with 18/21 wheels etc. Getting used to it now and really liking it and getting it out more and more on dirt roads and building my confidence. My biggest gripe is definitely the seat or torture device to be more accurate- bike manufacturers everywhere I ask “ Why, why, why!! The fuel figure you gave is way off, as is the fuel gauge. It doesn’t take long to get down to just 2 bars which is a bit disconcerting so I filled her up full and took a spare fuel bottle in my back pack and headed out to see just how far it would go on a tank (7.5 litres)- it just kept going! Mixed riding- hard, easy, hills, flat, it finally ran out at 280 klms !!!!! The low level fuel warning flashed for 110 klms!!!! Also, I have to mention that I got a slighter less tall bike not because of my height- I’m 187 cm( nearly 6’2”) but because I just turned 69 and it’s a bit easier to get my leg over, especially with a bit of camping gear on the back! The light weight is also a huge plus. As you said the world needs more of these types of bikes. Cheers from Oz, keep up the great vids.
Absolutely follow your logic on this vid. Retired dirt track/flat track racer ....Bought a 22 KLX230s 8 months ago for trails and short trips around town. Even raced it in a hare scrambles race. Then 3 weeks ago bought a 23 KLR650b for more touring, service/fire hard roads n such. Planning overnight adventures now
Decades ago, my first bike was the XT250. It was absolutely fantastic for a first bike that I owned. I wouldn't recommend it for the highway except maybe to go a few exits but aside from that, you could do it all. In the Northeast there wasn't a lot of available off road riding. I was fortunate to be near one of these areas but found on road riding to be just as attractive on side roads. As you say Ian, you can make full use of the horsepower at this size and there is a lot to be said about that. I wish I never sold it. Thanks for the review.
Man, nice I had a XT225 several years ago, a blast to ride, I now have a KLR650 a fun bike to ride but I'm getting old, so now I'm thinking about a XT250 instead !
In the 90s I had the XLR 250 and riding off road it was easier than my xt 550 Yamaha that I had after, I think because you could change gears first second and third, when with the xt you could use only the first gear on the stones gravel etc etc. The problem for the XLR was on the highway (110 to 115). I tried to go off road with my vstrom 1000 and on rocks it was almost impossible (of course). So for the islands (I'm Greek) I would prefer a small off road.
Thanks so much for doing this review. I've been considering buying this bike but there is so little information on this bike. Yours is the first review I've seen on this model. Really appreciate you doing this. Keep up the great work!
Great review. I'm a big guy and my first bike was a 2018 KLR 650, which was too tall and big for me when I was a new rider. Years later it fits me very well. I think the KLX230 is a perfect bike for a beginner and I purchased one for my son who is ~6 feet and it has been a great first bike. My wife, also a relatively short new rider, didn't feel comfortable on anything larger than a z125 and so we built her an adventure version of that bike. I'm thinking that the 's' model would have been a perfect bike for her had it been available at that time and may be a bike she considers moving to when/if she outgrows the z125. The ABS on/off for the rear is a really nice improvement and I'm hoping this make it to the KLR.
Great review you did. This is the exact bike combo I have. I’m 5’ 10 1/2”, 145 #. I like this bike better than the tall 300’s for my needs and uses. Just an awesome punchy trail bike, and back road explorer. You are correct, the brakes are fantastic. I can flog this bike and still get 71mpg or better. The KLX 230S is great for speeds below 63mph. The turning radius, ergonomics, foot pegs, transmission gear spacing are all spot on. And the new style LED headlight is excellent.
Indonesian here. KLX230 was originally designed here, and ironically is the less hardcore option to the smaller, more dirt-focused KLX150, while also being cheaper than KLX250/300. KLX230 will be definitely awkward, especially for Americans, due to the demanding highway minimum speed. But it works perfectly here.
The minimum highway speed in most places in the United States is 45 miles per hour. Bigger problems would be the wind blowing you all over the road and engine vibration.
This was my first ever motorcycle...I bought it new last May (2022) I can say without a doubt that it's been the best bike choice for me. It's light and nimble and definitely not as intimidating as a KLR or bigger dual sport or adv bike. Highly recommend the KLX230S 💚
I just bought one today, no clue how to use a clutch or even drive a bike, already scrapped my legs up with it lol. But likewise it's also my first bike ever!
Would like to see this compared to the new CRF300LS when possible. The LS has 1.3” more ground clearance with the same seat height, 60 ish more CC with only about 15 lbs more weight
I picked up a used standard version for $3000 as my first bike. It was a great deal that came with a bunch of mods. I've been wanting to get into ADV for a long time but the cost of entry was just to high. A small used Japanese Duel Sport has provided me access to this sport that I would have otherwise not had.
This bike used to be higher but it probably couldn't keep up with XT's sale numbers so Kawasaki lowered the suspension last year I think. Probably a good decision. The XT still has a huge advantage in term of aftermarket support. I know plenty of people who hold onto their XT and spend thousands of $ to kit them out for adventure touring. Bikes like these are just the right size for a group of often neglected adventurers. They don't go fast but they can go anywhere.
In 2020 I bought an xt225 for $1,100 it was a nice bike but really felt too small in 2021 I sold it for $1,500 and bought an 06 XR650L for the same price. I love it and plan on keeping it forever. But having ridden both I see how a smaller one would be better at times.
Middling aftermarket support seems to be plaguing the KLX in general. I wonder if they are less popular than I thought they were or if it is just that the owners don't spend much modifying their bikes.
I had a 250 Sherpra don't know why Kawasaki stopped making them it was good bike.I did notice when trail riding that it seemed top heavy when trying to do low speed turning on a hill I think the shorter stance will help off set this issue.
I had a chance to test ride this bike a couple of days ago and came away VERY VERY impressed. I really liked it! It’s got quite a bit of torque for its size, front wheel comes up easily without the clutch in first gear, it’s light, very maneuverable, and affordable! Just set up the front and back springs for your weight and you’re good to go! Honestly, I like it better than the KLX 300 because it’s lighter and very comparable in torque. 2 thumbs up! Now let’s see a comparison with the Honda CFR250f
Been watching your reviews for a while but just realized I hadn't subscribed. You earned my sub on this because I started riding about 15 years ago on a similar bike to this and your honesty is apparent here. These smaller displacement dual purpose bikes are very capable for most people and for commuting 5-10 miles one way they are great. They are also fun to take out all day on the weekend in fire roads like you showed here. Thanks for your great reviews!
Thanks for the review, and thanks Maggie! That was a sweet and candid interaction, with relevant insights. Informative as usual, although I would also have loved to see her as the pilot, to see if that could be a bike suitable for my wife as well.
Love, love, love, love, LOVE, my XT... But now I'm kinda feeling the urge to stray. 😅 Looking forward to seeing how the new Honda S models stack up against this. 😊
Very nice comprehensive review of a great bike! As someone who has owned a Yamaha XT250 since 2008, this looks to be a very comparable bike as seat height is exactly the same and power and top speed look very similar. Where the Kawi has advantages are the 6 speed gearbox, fuel indicator, ABS brakes, and newer chassis. The Yamaha advantages are larger tank, higher ground clearance, more suspension travel and perhaps a little more seat for the passenger. If I were choosing between these two today it would be a really tough call that most likely is decided by a test ride.
Love the little KLX bikes. I built my wife a dual sport out of a KLX140. It’s now a KLX170 with a KX100 suspension. She’s only 4’10” so we had to start small. Used a Tusk light kit and put dual sport tires on it. If it had a six speed I swear I would commute to work on it. LOL Oh and yeah it’s plated so it would be “legal”. :-) Great review.
Im a year behind obviously, but, I bought this bike for my wife as her 1st bike. She's 5'2" 110. She wanted to start going on adventure rides with me and my buddy. This was just about the only bike i could find small enough for her to feel comfortable on, and be able to do highway and off-road. Its an awesome little bike, she loves it and is beyond comfortable on it, other than the seat on long pavement rides. The only complaints I have are the suspension and the lack of a tach. Im 220lbs, ive tries to ride it in the dirt and I bottom out the forks with relative ease. The tach would be nice for here to have a better understanding of gear vs speed shes in. Highly recommend the bike, awesome littl guy to have in the stable
Thanks for sharing. I bought a klx230s no abs. To start riding again at 70. My inseam at 30" makes it hard for ME to get on an off. But getting better as I ride. Stepping on the left peg to get on I feel at my weight (300) I'll pull the bike over. I need to try. But once I'm on I am in heaven. Wondering if I can lower it more. It's the tail that's to high.. Riding again yeah. I'll keep this bike. But hope to upgrade one day. The only thing was the factory seat. 5miles down the road nothing but pain in the a-s. Put on a Seat Concepts. Now get 50miles before I need to get off. Thinking of putting more padding. Thanks enjoyed the review 😊.
Thank you for the review. One more thing to mention when comparing this bike with Yamaha XT250 and TW200 is that both of those bikes are still made in Japan; this Kawasaki is not. I know many people don't care, but some do.
I have a 2020 standard height KLX230. The ecu has a 75mph speed limiter. Its not the engine rev limit as it does it in 5th and 6th. The speedometer is about 4mph fast. At sea level 55 to 62 mph actual speed is where it cruises the best.
I’ve seen air cooled engines equipped with temperature gauges. The sensor is usually mounted to the head. But your right, you will most likely never need that on this bike. I have a 300 Rally, and you didn’t pi$$ me off. After all the upgrades that I have made to the Rally, the 230 couldn’t even be compared, even if it were fully modified. But I do like your reviews on these smaller lightweight bikes a lot, more than I do the bigger ones. You laugh more, and seem to have more fun.
It’s a month since I bought one of these (the regular KLX230,actually) and it has far exceeded my expectations. Really great fun, very affordable, as does everything so easily. Kawasaki has a winner here.
Another great bike review. I bought the 230s just over 12 months ago to help me develop my off road riding skills and it was great for that. The bike so very easy to ride and is so confidence inspiring. In fact, my skills and confidence developed so quickly after having bought this bike that I was soon able to switch to my KTM390 Adventure bike and head off to tackle many more off road adventures. The 390 is more comfortable and is able to travel greater distances with ease. I have now sold my 230s but I, like you, would certainly recommend it for developing off road riding skills and confidence. Thanks again for review. PS: Love to see the snow capped mountains in the background, you live in an awesome location.
Thank you for doing different reviews like this. As you said, you ride some of the higher end bikes and that is mostly the content viewers find (ktm ect). I have a KLX 300. I can't imagine recommending this bike to anyone over the 300 except someone who is REALLY short (like 5 ft) or maybe a farm bike or learner bike if you found a great USED deal in a few years from now.
Another very detailed and thorough review, great job. BTW, at the 11:50 mark, keep calling them "dummy lights" or "idiot lights" as I still refer to them. Don't bow down to the snowflakes' speech restrictions.
Thanks for yet another excellent review Ian. These light and low dual sport bikes are just great fun to ride! This KLX230 really reminds me of my 2006 model KL250 Super Sherpa. More or less same weight and seat height, but the Sherpa has more power and suspension travel. Progress? Guess emission regulations killed off the Sherpa, and no ABS. We are really lucky here in New Zealand in that thousands of these bikes were sold to farmers as the Kawasaki Stockman, so they are common and parts are readily available. Even though I have much larger bikes, I still love riding the little Sherpa, especially when the road deteriorates into technical single track.
Nice review Ian, but you miss two things. First you should put your wife on the bike, alone. This bike is not for you, but for her. Second, you bottomed the suspension, because again, this bike is not for you, but for a shorter / lighter rider.
When I was in my teens I had a 1971 Honda CL175 which supposedly made 20 HP also. At that time I didn't have a full appreciation for what a good engine that little parallel twin was. Hearing that the kaw you're teating makes 20 hp puts it in perspective. That looks like a fun little bike. Nice review.
Very thorough review ! Subscribed ! There’s A LOT to like about these new dual sport bikes today and this KLX230S is a fine example. I wish I had these choices when I was a young rider being introduced to riding . We had to learn on old school dirt bikes and typically they were two strokes , big and heavy , cumbersome and hard to handle , ergonomics weren’t even comparable to todays bikes , but we muscled through the growing pains and learning curves and still had fun . I just sold my XT250 ( regretfully) and I’m going to get a Honda CRF300LS … but that Yamaha XT250 was a fantastic bike for any rider of any age or experience, so much fun to ride . I am still thinking about the Kawasaki KLX300, but the seat height is my concern , so Honda just came out with the new CRF300LS ( shorter seat than the CRF300L) so I put a deposit on one … waiting for shipment.
My wife and I have our 33rd anniversary this month. (YES, I remembered dear!,) and I genuinely love the little moment when your own lovely anticipates the possibility of simply hugging you as a “pillion.” That’s a beautiful and candid moment! We are fortunate!
Hi Ian, Ya nailed it… I have a 2022 KLX 230, standard height, standing here next to my 1250GSA. I had the Dunlop 606 knobbies mounted on the 230 right from the dealership and installed a very simple bar riser. The KLX is an absolute blast! The summer previously I owned a 300KLX. Similar platforms, 230 is just simpler. On the road both motos work very well riding in 5th gear, it’s easier to hold your speed at highway speeds. Thanks for a good positive review.
What are your thoughts on this compared to a 2020 klx250? There is one available for sale near me for $4,000 which is cheaper than any of the new 230s. The way I see it I’d be buying a couple of more ccs and a little bit better suspension
At that price point get the 250 yes. It is liquid cooled which means a LOT more sustained power even if you get that radiator as potential damage risk. I'm saying this as primary 230 userbase, Indonesian.
I am LQQKing at dual sports & I've not ridden a bike in over 20 yrs. At 5' 6" tall, I also worry about seat heights but what I'm starting to see is that most these bikes have a soft enough suspension that if you can throw your leg over the seat, chances are the seat will push down enough that you can handle it? IF Not, I'm thinking you can go to a parking lot & practice getting on/off the bike along w/ slow turn practicing. Doing this 2 times at 3-4 hours per training trip will make you more able to deal w/ the height issues. The best feature I like is the ABS that can be turned off or on. I like this but as a new rider I think that ABS is smart to use for the streets - for ice/snow or just water & for any debris like gravel or sand... these will take you down hard & now I'm trying to decide the right bike for my needs/WANTs? Thanks
Was the idle super high on this model? Others have had that problem. Would fatter more knobby tires fit on this? I would think of this as a good city motorcycle that can handle pot holes and cracked roads better than a scooter or street motorcycle. That is why I"m interested in it. My first motorcycle was a Honda XL250S. The horsepower was 20.2. It weighed a bit less. The KLX 230S or regular would make a great replacement for that Honda. If only the newer motorcycles would have kick starters. All motorcycles should have them.
Just a random thought about pillion getting on and off a bike: if pillion mount from port side, use first the left foot on passenger footpeg, stand on it, swing right leg over the back of the bike to the right side footpeg and sit down. Getting off is this in reverse order. VERY important to communicate so the driver that already sits on the bike is ready for the possible shift of wheight. That would make it easier for your wife to assist.
Im in Australia and we can't get the klx300 so im considering getting a smaller bike (klx230s) than it's competition (crf300L) in hopes that i can save even more money by not needing to upgrade the suspension Over here we have to ride for 2 years and then we can sit another test to upgrade our license to ride bigger bikes (anything over 660cc) which is when id either sell this and/or buy a 701 I'd love to hear your opinion on my plan if you have the time. This will be my first bike which ill need to commute (100 km/h) and use for overnight camping
I really need to know if the ‘S’ suspension is even worse the the regular 230 suspension. I can’t seem to find any ‘regular’ 230 bikes, only the S, and I just can’t afford the 300, yet at 59 years old, I do ride a bit aggressive still and don’t want to bottom on every hole or small whoop on the firelanes up here in Wisconsin. I can’t find a suspension comparison between the two 230s for anything, so I’d love to hear anyone’s thoughts. Like would heavier fork oil get it close, or does the S limited travel ‘limit’ it from ever being decent? I’m 5’-10” and weigh 180 lbs. Thank you so much.
Fantastic review! This looks like a great first bike. I'm wondering if the noise level of the air cooled KLX230S engine is significantly louder than the KLX300 water cooled?
Has anyone seen the 2024 KLX 230 in person yet? I ordered mine in April, and being June 1st today and not a word on my bike or even a ship date, I sure hope it’s worth the wait. Thank you, and sorry if I derailed your video. Mike
I have the xt250 now. I use too ride and loved the yz250r but I'm 55 now and been hurt, so I have the xt250 now and want to ride with the big boys in adventure. But my bike feels weak to keep up on street. I don't want a heavy bike. I like the xt250. But want for more Ease on freeway as some of the group rides take free way to get to the dirt here in idaho. I love riding, I feel bummed there's not a perfect bike for me 190lb, 55yr old woman 5'5.
Comparing this bike to your recent review on Honda XR150L; this Kawasaki has a 6 speed transmission; LED headlight ; Rear disc brake and is only about 3kg heavier than the Honda 150. The Kawasaki has the disadvantage of only a 7.5ltr fuel tank which is honestly just stupidly too small. {Honda having a 12ltr fuel tank}. However I would choose the Kawasaki over the Honda for the earlier things I mentioned as they are two air cooled bikes competing for a similar market. You did really good reviews on both of these two bikes. I do also wonder does the Kawasaki have a positive neutral finder which is pretty common for them to have and is a great plus on their bikes. For all the great improvements of modern motorcycles in quality and reliability there is still a place in the hearts of some people for good old air cooled engines not having the added weight; parts; and complications of water cooling.
I just bought one brand new yesterday my first bike I really like it,my only complaint is the seat isn’t the greatest gonna upgrade it but all around pretty happy
Hello I’m 5’8-5’9 145-150 pounds, I was wondering is this a good bike for to start out with? I’m sure it’s enough power for trail riding with my son, but I just want to know is this a good model for me? I’m not sure what to get a regular dirt bike or just a dual sport, I never rode a dirt bike or any bike but I drive a manual car, 6 speed is it similar? Would I learn quickly?
yeah , Abs brakes SUCK , add stupid weight to a great bike 20 lb more or less . leave it as an option for newbies , But to shove it down your throat whether you like it or not is not acceptable . your sales will plummet .
I tested one a couple of weeks ago and I agree with this review: Great little bike, especially for chill trail rides and commuting, It's a fun bike to ride fast!
Good review at 5 foot 6 1/2 215 lbs 74 years old the short suspension bothers me seat lower is great I did race motocross back in the day as an adult my got the regular 230 and to mount it I have to give my leg a good swing over the seat but once I’m on I feel fine thanks for the test which convinces me to go with the regular 230
Probably, the kind of motorbike for a zombie apocalypse. Easy to drive, dependable, good mpg (essential in times where gas might not be easy to find) enough power to get you everywhere, and very capable off road.
Great review Ian! I have been off road and have GS1200 for the road. Since I want to start to learn to ride off road. Since I have the GS should I get the 230 r off road version of the KlX? That’s the way I’m leaning.
I am really confused. I am 65 years old and I am 6 feet tall with a 32 inch inseam, and all my life I have ridden full size bikes putting both feet flat on the ground when I stop with a bend in my knee. How is it you can't? I am betting you don't have a 32 inch inseam.
It's just a shame it has an uncomfortable seat and no rack. Are beginners not allowed to go camping. The TW looks to be A bit slow, and the Himalayan, well, maybe that is really the ultimate beginner bike. Thanks for the review. I am learning a lot.
Hello from new Zealand just brought one down here in new Zealand as a farm bike kawasaki call it the stockman think it will be great 👍🏻 Great review 👏 Cheers
I wish they would make a truly big man version of the small bikes. The engine and the brakes not being Spectacular is definitely something that I can live with. But I need to have suspension that can make it out of the parking lot in one piece. And a good enough c*** pilaria to wear. I'm not licking my knees.
5:48 is this thing gonna get hot … the exhaust shield will get quite warm but the partially exposed exhaust underneath will melt your flesh in seconds if touched … 6:02 you’ll be comfortable for what 10 or 20 minutes??? … lol try 10 or 20 seconds … I say this from experience, this is not a two up motorcycle to say the least … I am an owner of this bike
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Based on your review I located a 2023 KLX230S with ABS and bought it. The review mentioned this is a good uncomplicated "beginner" bike. I would also like to add that it might also be called a good "Late in Life bike" as I am in my 70's and it has allowed me to easily have both feet on the ground along with the weight low to the ground coupled with ease of handling and braking.
well done mate, never too old.
I just saw this post, and you nailed it! I used to race moto, was never that good, but enjoyed it, so I’m thinking on the same lines on ‘age,’ I’m 59 years old, not in real good health and obviously getting older quicker then I’d like, so, even if the bike was ‘iffy’ performance wise this summer, I’d be growing into it a different way, as I get older.
I hope that made sense, but yes, I totally agree with your post.
I'm 63 and just about to buy a KLX230
Got you by a decade and a half. I am happy with my choice of the S model and ABS. I just do not have the arm strength to keep the bike up without the ability to get both feet on the ground. ABS helps when you grab too much brake. Power in the low range is just fine for me so it does not want to rip itself out of your hands, but it will scoot when in the higher RPM range. Farkles are few and far between, but HiVolt out of Thailand has enough for me. I only wish it had a gear indicator. The high idle bothers me sometimes, but there is a fix for that which I am considering. @@MaverickAus
Ian, you missed a great opportunity to show us how a short person fits on the bike. Put your wife on the operators seat. Let us see if she can touch the ground. This bike is all about people her size.
That’s a good call.
Totally agree.
noted!
What if your 11st 5'7 short but heavier?
@@steve00alt70 Try the TW200
Great review! While others usually just keep on talking about the low power, slowness, limitations, you show exactly why small bikes are so much fun. I've been riding since 20 years and I will always keep some small bikes in my stable.
thanks! agreed
Now why can't Kawasaki put that same 6 speed transmission on the KLR?
Thanks Ian....I am an older, returning rider (72) and this is right up my alley. Sold my ''05 F650GS as I couldn't pick it up. I'd buy this just on the strength of your laugh during the ride.
It's always more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow! Love these styles of bikes. Everyone in the late 60's , early 70's started out on these "enduro" type bikes. Mostly two strokes but Honda had the XR's👍
She brings up a good point about the back seat passenger maybe grabbing the exhuast. That never occured to me because every motorcycle ive had all had their exhuast down lower
5:33 the way he said "I like that too" had that "mom, you're embarrassing me in front of my friends" energy lol. Thought it was kind of a cute moment
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Hi, bought my 230 s a couple months ago here in Australia -($7700 ride away!!!). It’s my first “dirt bike” having been riding road bikes on and off most of my life. When I first got it I tried not to hate it- not used to the “tall” dirt bike type set up with 18/21 wheels etc. Getting used to it now and really liking it and getting it out more and more on dirt roads and building my confidence.
My biggest gripe is definitely the seat or torture device to be more accurate- bike manufacturers everywhere I ask “ Why, why, why!!
The fuel figure you gave is way off, as is the fuel gauge. It doesn’t take long to get down to just 2 bars which is a bit disconcerting so I filled her up full and took a spare fuel bottle in my back pack and headed out to see just how far it would go on a tank (7.5 litres)- it just kept going! Mixed riding- hard, easy, hills, flat, it finally ran out at 280 klms !!!!! The low level fuel warning flashed for 110 klms!!!!
Also, I have to mention that I got a slighter less tall bike not because of my height- I’m 187 cm( nearly 6’2”) but because I just turned 69 and it’s a bit easier to get my leg over, especially with a bit of camping gear on the back! The light weight is also a huge plus. As you said the world needs more of these types of bikes.
Cheers from Oz, keep up the great vids.
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Absolutely follow your logic on this vid. Retired dirt track/flat track racer ....Bought a 22 KLX230s 8 months ago for trails and short trips around town. Even raced it in a hare scrambles race. Then 3 weeks ago bought a 23 KLR650b for more touring, service/fire hard roads n such. Planning overnight adventures now
awesome!
Decades ago, my first bike was the XT250. It was absolutely fantastic for a first bike that I owned. I wouldn't recommend it for the highway except maybe to go a few exits but aside from that, you could do it all. In the Northeast there wasn't a lot of available off road riding. I was fortunate to be near one of these areas but found on road riding to be just as attractive on side roads. As you say Ian, you can make full use of the horsepower at this size and there is a lot to be said about that. I wish I never sold it. Thanks for the review.
Man, nice I had a XT225 several years ago, a blast to ride, I now have a KLR650 a fun bike to ride but I'm getting old, so now I'm thinking about a XT250 instead !
In the 90s I had the XLR 250 and riding off road it was easier than my xt 550 Yamaha that I had after, I think because you could change gears first second and third, when with the xt you could use only the first gear on the stones gravel etc etc. The problem for the XLR was on the highway (110 to 115). I tried to go off road with my vstrom 1000 and on rocks it was almost impossible (of course). So for the islands (I'm Greek) I would prefer a small off road.
It’s great to see you so excited about a entry level bike! Great video!
thanks!
Thanks so much for doing this review. I've been considering buying this bike but there is so little information on this bike. Yours is the first review I've seen on this model. Really appreciate you doing this. Keep up the great work!
Great review. I'm a big guy and my first bike was a 2018 KLR 650, which was too tall and big for me when I was a new rider. Years later it fits me very well. I think the KLX230 is a perfect bike for a beginner and I purchased one for my son who is ~6 feet and it has been a great first bike. My wife, also a relatively short new rider, didn't feel comfortable on anything larger than a z125 and so we built her an adventure version of that bike. I'm thinking that the 's' model would have been a perfect bike for her had it been available at that time and may be a bike she considers moving to when/if she outgrows the z125. The ABS on/off for the rear is a really nice improvement and I'm hoping this make it to the KLR.
Great review you did. This is the exact bike combo I have. I’m 5’ 10 1/2”, 145 #. I like this bike better than the tall 300’s for my needs and uses. Just an awesome punchy trail bike, and back road explorer. You are correct, the brakes are fantastic. I can flog this bike and still get 71mpg or better. The KLX 230S is great for speeds below 63mph. The turning radius, ergonomics, foot pegs, transmission gear spacing are all spot on. And the new style LED headlight is excellent.
Indonesian here. KLX230 was originally designed here, and ironically is the less hardcore option to the smaller, more dirt-focused KLX150, while also being cheaper than KLX250/300. KLX230 will be definitely awkward, especially for Americans, due to the demanding highway minimum speed.
But it works perfectly here.
thanks for sharing
The minimum highway speed in most places in the United States is 45 miles per hour.
Bigger problems would be the wind blowing you all over the road and engine vibration.
This was my first ever motorcycle...I bought it new last May (2022) I can say without a doubt that it's been the best bike choice for me. It's light and nimble and definitely not as intimidating as a KLR or bigger dual sport or adv bike. Highly recommend the KLX230S 💚
I just bought one today, no clue how to use a clutch or even drive a bike, already scrapped my legs up with it lol. But likewise it's also my first bike ever!
Really glad you reviewed this bike! I sometimes feel like I am in the forgotten segment of motorcycle rider being that I'm only 5'6"
Im 5'8 and this bike is perfect for a shorter rider. The 230R was a touch tall for me
Would like to see this compared to the new CRF300LS when possible. The LS has 1.3” more ground clearance with the same seat height, 60 ish more CC with only about 15 lbs more weight
I picked up a used standard version for $3000 as my first bike. It was a great deal that came with a bunch of mods. I've been wanting to get into ADV for a long time but the cost of entry was just to high. A small used Japanese Duel Sport has provided me access to this sport that I would have otherwise not had.
This bike used to be higher but it probably couldn't keep up with XT's sale numbers so Kawasaki lowered the suspension last year I think. Probably a good decision. The XT still has a huge advantage in term of aftermarket support. I know plenty of people who hold onto their XT and spend thousands of $ to kit them out for adventure touring. Bikes like these are just the right size for a group of often neglected adventurers. They don't go fast but they can go anywhere.
In 2020 I bought an xt225 for $1,100 it was a nice bike but really felt too small in 2021 I sold it for $1,500 and bought an 06 XR650L for the same price. I love it and plan on keeping it forever. But having ridden both I see how a smaller one would be better at times.
Middling aftermarket support seems to be plaguing the KLX in general. I wonder if they are less popular than I thought they were or if it is just that the owners don't spend much modifying their bikes.
@@GratefulEd907man. nice I had a XT225 several years ago, a blast to ride, now have a KLR fun bike but I'm getting old, so now thinking a XT250 !
I had a 250 Sherpra don't know why Kawasaki stopped making them it was good bike.I did notice when trail riding that it seemed top heavy when trying to do low speed turning on a hill I think the shorter stance will help off set this issue.
Don't think it 'used to be higher'. They introduced S model alongside the other 230 models.
I had a chance to test ride this bike a couple of days ago and came away VERY VERY impressed. I really liked it! It’s got quite a bit of torque for its size, front wheel comes up easily without the clutch in first gear, it’s light, very maneuverable, and affordable! Just set up the front and back springs for your weight and you’re good to go! Honestly, I like it better than the KLX 300 because it’s lighter and very comparable in torque. 2 thumbs up!
Now let’s see a comparison with the Honda CFR250f
Valve adjustments are a lot easier on the 230 as well. The 300 you have to pull the cams and do the shims which will take many times as long.
Been watching your reviews for a while but just realized I hadn't subscribed. You earned my sub on this because I started riding about 15 years ago on a similar bike to this and your honesty is apparent here. These smaller displacement dual purpose bikes are very capable for most people and for commuting 5-10 miles one way they are great. They are also fun to take out all day on the weekend in fire roads like you showed here. Thanks for your great reviews!
Another great real world review, thanks! Appreciate you pull no punches and give candid impressions.
my pleasure!
@@BigRockMoto you’re to motorcycles what “Alex on Autos” is the automobile industry.
Thanks for the review, and thanks Maggie! That was a sweet and candid interaction, with relevant insights. Informative as usual, although I would also have loved to see her as the pilot, to see if that could be a bike suitable for my wife as well.
I would love to see a review and comparison of this bike vs the Honda CRF300LS that was just announced.
Love, love, love, love, LOVE, my XT...
But now I'm kinda feeling the urge to stray. 😅
Looking forward to seeing how the new Honda S models stack up against this. 😊
Very nice comprehensive review of a great bike! As someone who has owned a Yamaha XT250 since 2008, this looks to be a very comparable bike as seat height is exactly the same and power and top speed look very similar.
Where the Kawi has advantages are the 6 speed gearbox, fuel indicator, ABS brakes, and newer chassis. The Yamaha advantages are larger tank, higher ground clearance, more suspension travel and perhaps a little more seat for the passenger. If I were choosing between these two today it would be a really tough call that most likely is decided by a test ride.
Love the little KLX bikes. I built my wife a dual sport out of a KLX140. It’s now a KLX170 with a KX100 suspension. She’s only 4’10” so we had to start small. Used a Tusk light kit and put dual sport tires on it. If it had a six speed I swear I would commute to work on it. LOL Oh and yeah it’s plated so it would be “legal”. :-) Great review.
Im a year behind obviously, but, I bought this bike for my wife as her 1st bike. She's 5'2" 110. She wanted to start going on adventure rides with me and my buddy.
This was just about the only bike i could find small enough for her to feel comfortable on, and be able to do highway and off-road. Its an awesome little bike, she loves it and is beyond comfortable on it, other than the seat on long pavement rides. The only complaints I have are the suspension and the lack of a tach. Im 220lbs, ive tries to ride it in the dirt and I bottom out the forks with relative ease. The tach would be nice for here to have a better understanding of gear vs speed shes in.
Highly recommend the bike, awesome littl guy to have in the stable
I like Maggie.
I always enjoy your reviews. Maggie made me laugh at “ it’s like sitting on a stick”. Great stuff Ian!
Thanks for sharing. I bought a klx230s no abs. To start riding again at 70. My inseam at 30" makes it hard for ME to get on an off. But getting better as I ride. Stepping on the left peg to get on I feel at my weight (300) I'll pull the bike over. I need to try. But once I'm on I am in heaven. Wondering if I can lower it more. It's the tail that's to high.. Riding again yeah. I'll keep this bike. But hope to upgrade one day. The only thing was the factory seat. 5miles down the road nothing but pain in the a-s. Put on a Seat Concepts. Now get 50miles before I need to get off. Thinking of putting more padding. Thanks enjoyed the review 😊.
You should do a review on the 2023 Honda xr150
Why no ABS on the standard 230? I can't wrap my head around this. I like this bike, but I am 6'3" and still want the switchable ABS.
Thank you for the review. One more thing to mention when comparing this bike with Yamaha XT250 and TW200 is that both of those bikes are still made in Japan; this Kawasaki is not.
I know many people don't care, but some do.
I have a 2020 standard height KLX230. The ecu has a 75mph speed limiter. Its not the engine rev limit as it does it in 5th and 6th. The speedometer is about 4mph fast. At sea level 55 to 62 mph actual speed is where it cruises the best.
Always such great reviews! Really down to earth and with lots of practical and useful perspectives and opinions! Keep up the good work. 👍
I’ve seen air cooled engines equipped with temperature gauges. The sensor is usually mounted to the head. But your right, you will most likely never need that on this bike.
I have a 300 Rally, and you didn’t pi$$ me off. After all the upgrades that I have made to the Rally, the 230 couldn’t even be compared, even if it were fully modified. But I do like your reviews on these smaller lightweight bikes a lot, more than I do the bigger ones. You laugh more, and seem to have more fun.
It’s a month since I bought one of these (the regular KLX230,actually) and it has far exceeded my expectations. Really great fun, very affordable, as does everything so easily. Kawasaki has a winner here.
Man, nice little bike buy why don't they make the seat a little wider, it's like sitting on a 2x4 !
Agree on suspension. Much more useful stock than 300l.
Another great bike review. I bought the 230s just over 12 months ago to help me develop my off road riding skills and it was great for that. The bike so very easy to ride and is so confidence inspiring. In fact, my skills and confidence developed so quickly after having bought this bike that I was soon able to switch to my KTM390 Adventure bike and head off to tackle many more off road adventures. The 390 is more comfortable and is able to travel greater distances with ease. I have now sold my 230s but I, like you, would certainly recommend it for developing off road riding skills and confidence. Thanks again for review. PS: Love to see the snow capped mountains in the background, you live in an awesome location.
How does the S compare to the SM? Which one is the better buy?
KLX230 is WAY more fun to ride compared to the TW200.
Thank you for doing different reviews like this. As you said, you ride some of the higher end bikes and that is mostly the content viewers find (ktm ect). I have a KLX 300. I can't imagine recommending this bike to anyone over the 300 except someone who is REALLY short (like 5 ft) or maybe a farm bike or learner bike if you found a great USED deal in a few years from now.
Another very detailed and thorough review, great job. BTW, at the 11:50 mark, keep calling them "dummy lights" or "idiot lights" as I still refer to them. Don't bow down to the snowflakes' speech restrictions.
I agree! They've been "idiot lights" for decades and there's no reason to change.
Man, this thing seems like it will suit my wife to a T. It's so hard to find anything off-roady for a shorter person. Good review Ian, thanks again.
This is possibly the best video ever made reviewing a bike. Thank you!
Thanks for yet another excellent review Ian. These light and low dual sport bikes are just great fun to ride! This KLX230 really reminds me of my 2006 model KL250 Super Sherpa. More or less same weight and seat height, but the Sherpa has more power and suspension travel. Progress? Guess emission regulations killed off the Sherpa, and no ABS. We are really lucky here in New Zealand in that thousands of these bikes were sold to farmers as the Kawasaki Stockman, so they are common and parts are readily available. Even though I have much larger bikes, I still love riding the little Sherpa, especially when the road deteriorates into technical single track.
That 250 Sherpa or KLX/R250 from that era, was just better than anything else in that class!
Nice review Ian, but you miss two things. First you should put your wife on the bike, alone. This bike is not for you, but for her. Second, you bottomed the suspension, because again, this bike is not for you, but for a shorter / lighter rider.
I'm looking at getting a beginner on/off road bike for my 13 year old son. It's nice to see you pop up as the reviewer. A trusted name.
I love this video, thanks for your hard work man
I wish the klx300 had got these new updated plastics
When I was in my teens I had a 1971 Honda CL175 which supposedly made 20 HP also. At that time I didn't have a full appreciation for what a good engine that little parallel twin was. Hearing that the kaw you're teating makes 20 hp puts it in perspective. That looks like a fun little bike. Nice review.
My TW does 0-60 eventually.
Very thorough review ! Subscribed !
There’s A LOT to like about these new dual sport bikes today and this KLX230S is a fine example.
I wish I had these choices when I was a young rider being introduced to riding . We had to learn on old school dirt bikes and typically they were two strokes , big and heavy , cumbersome and hard to handle , ergonomics weren’t even comparable to todays bikes , but we muscled through the growing pains and learning curves and still had fun .
I just sold my XT250 ( regretfully) and I’m going to get a Honda CRF300LS … but that Yamaha XT250 was a fantastic bike for any rider of any age or experience, so much fun to ride .
I am still thinking about the Kawasaki KLX300, but the seat height is my concern , so Honda just came out with the new CRF300LS ( shorter seat than the CRF300L) so I put a deposit on one … waiting for shipment.
Loved you and your wife's commentary 😆. "you can grab my love handles". 😂🤘. Love the content brother
Nice review Ian. This or crf 250L?
I’d love to see a direct comparison too.
I'd just get a KLX300
My wife and I have our 33rd anniversary this month. (YES, I remembered dear!,) and I genuinely love the little moment when your own lovely anticipates the possibility of simply hugging you as a “pillion.” That’s a beautiful and candid moment! We are fortunate!
Hi Ian,
Ya nailed it… I have a 2022 KLX 230, standard height, standing here next to my 1250GSA.
I had the Dunlop 606 knobbies mounted on the 230 right from the dealership and installed a very simple bar riser. The KLX is an absolute blast! The summer previously I owned a 300KLX. Similar platforms, 230 is just simpler.
On the road both motos work very well riding in 5th gear, it’s easier to hold your speed at highway speeds. Thanks for a good positive review.
What are your thoughts on this compared to a 2020 klx250? There is one available for sale near me for $4,000 which is cheaper than any of the new 230s. The way I see it I’d be buying a couple of more ccs and a little bit better suspension
get the 250 for the money
At that price point get the 250 yes. It is liquid cooled which means a LOT more sustained power even if you get that radiator as potential damage risk. I'm saying this as primary 230 userbase, Indonesian.
I am LQQKing at dual sports & I've not ridden a bike in over 20 yrs. At 5' 6" tall, I also worry about seat heights but what I'm
starting to see is that most these bikes have a soft enough suspension that if you can throw your leg over the seat, chances
are the seat will push down enough that you can handle it? IF Not, I'm thinking you can go to a parking lot & practice getting
on/off the bike along w/ slow turn practicing. Doing this 2 times at 3-4 hours per training trip will make you more able to
deal w/ the height issues. The best feature I like is the ABS that can be turned off or on. I like this but as a new rider I
think that ABS is smart to use for the streets - for ice/snow or just water & for any debris like gravel or sand... these
will take you down hard & now I'm trying to decide the right bike for my needs/WANTs? Thanks
Was the idle super high on this model? Others have had that problem. Would fatter more knobby tires fit on this?
I would think of this as a good city motorcycle that can handle pot holes and cracked roads better than a scooter or street motorcycle. That is why I"m interested in it.
My first motorcycle was a Honda XL250S. The horsepower was 20.2. It weighed a bit less. The KLX 230S or regular would make a great replacement for that Honda. If only the newer motorcycles would have kick starters. All motorcycles should have them.
Ian, thanks for the thorough review. Just curious, if you could only own one motorcycle, which one would it be?
Just a random thought about pillion getting on and off a bike: if pillion mount from port side, use first the left foot on passenger footpeg, stand on it, swing right leg over the back of the bike to the right side footpeg and sit down. Getting off is this in reverse order.
VERY important to communicate so the driver that already sits on the bike is ready for the possible shift of wheight.
That would make it easier for your wife to assist.
Im in Australia and we can't get the klx300 so im considering getting a smaller bike (klx230s) than it's competition (crf300L) in hopes that i can save even more money by not needing to upgrade the suspension
Over here we have to ride for 2 years and then we can sit another test to upgrade our license to ride bigger bikes (anything over 660cc) which is when id either sell this and/or buy a 701
I'd love to hear your opinion on my plan if you have the time. This will be my first bike which ill need to commute (100 km/h) and use for overnight camping
I really need to know if the ‘S’ suspension is even worse the the regular 230 suspension. I can’t seem to find any ‘regular’ 230 bikes, only the S, and I just can’t afford the 300, yet at 59 years old, I do ride a bit aggressive still and don’t want to bottom on every hole or small whoop on the firelanes up here in Wisconsin.
I can’t find a suspension comparison between the two 230s for anything, so I’d love to hear anyone’s thoughts. Like would heavier fork oil get it close, or does the S limited travel ‘limit’ it from ever being decent?
I’m 5’-10” and weigh 180 lbs.
Thank you so much.
You really do the best reviews. They are super thorough and I love that you include a discussion of maintenance.
Thank you!
Fantastic review! This looks like a great first bike. I'm wondering if the noise level of the air cooled KLX230S engine is significantly louder than the KLX300 water cooled?
Has anyone seen the 2024 KLX 230 in person yet?
I ordered mine in April, and being June 1st today and not a word on my bike or even a ship date, I sure hope it’s worth the wait.
Thank you, and sorry if I derailed your video.
Mike
I have the xt250 now. I use too ride and loved the yz250r but I'm 55 now and been hurt, so I have the xt250 now and want to ride with the big boys in adventure. But my bike feels weak to keep up on street. I don't want a heavy bike. I like the xt250. But want for more
Ease on freeway as some of the group rides take free way to get to the dirt here in idaho. I love riding, I feel bummed there's not a perfect bike for me 190lb, 55yr old woman 5'5.
It looks good now that they put a better looking headlight
Hey Ian, a bit off topic, but how are those MSR Cold weather gloves? They keep your hands warm in around 30 degree weather?
30 degree? no, need heated gloves for that
@@BigRockMoto I have heated gloves for that; I was just curious! Thanks Ian!
Comparing this bike to your recent review on Honda XR150L; this Kawasaki has a 6 speed transmission; LED headlight ; Rear disc brake and is only about 3kg heavier than the Honda 150. The Kawasaki has the disadvantage of only a 7.5ltr fuel tank which is honestly just stupidly too small. {Honda having a 12ltr fuel tank}. However I would choose the Kawasaki over the Honda for the earlier things I mentioned as they are two air cooled bikes competing for a similar market. You did really good reviews on both of these two bikes. I do also wonder does the Kawasaki have a positive neutral finder which is pretty common for them to have and is a great plus on their bikes. For all the great improvements of modern motorcycles in quality and reliability there is still a place in the hearts of some people for good old air cooled engines not having the added weight; parts; and complications of water cooling.
I just bought one brand new yesterday my first bike I really like it,my only complaint is the seat isn’t the greatest gonna upgrade it but all around pretty happy
Hello I’m 5’8-5’9 145-150 pounds, I was wondering is this a good bike for to start out with? I’m sure it’s enough power for trail riding with my son, but I just want to know is this a good model for me? I’m not sure what to get a regular dirt bike or just a dual sport, I never rode a dirt bike or any bike but I drive a manual car, 6 speed is it similar? Would I learn quickly?
yeah , Abs brakes SUCK , add stupid weight to a great bike 20 lb more or less . leave it as an option for newbies , But to shove it down your throat whether you like it or not is not acceptable . your sales will plummet .
I tested one a couple of weeks ago and I agree with this review: Great little bike, especially for chill trail rides and commuting, It's a fun bike to ride fast!
Nice review, Ian! I'm getting one soon, can't wait to whip it around. Will be night and day compared to my KTM 790R in the dirt.
Perfectly timed, i have been eyeing a 230s for a couple of weeks now.
Good review at 5 foot 6 1/2 215 lbs 74 years old the short suspension bothers me seat lower is great I did race motocross back in the day as an adult my got the regular 230 and to mount it I have to give my leg a good swing over the seat but once I’m on I feel fine thanks for the test which convinces me to go with the regular 230
Probably, the kind of motorbike for a zombie apocalypse. Easy to drive, dependable, good mpg (essential in times where gas might not be easy to find) enough power to get you everywhere, and very capable off road.
Great review Ian! I have been off road and have GS1200 for the road. Since I want to start to learn to ride off road. Since I have the GS should I get the 230 r off road version of the KlX? That’s the way I’m leaning.
Ok Thanks Maggie you can get off now 😂😂😂 I could see your annoyed level going up 😅😅😅 She is a funny woman, hopefully she made it to the post office!
Whats great about this 230S ? Its not catapilar green!!!! Yay. The 230 is the perfect size for me at 5'6" that means the 230S is even better.
About time short bikes are made. Short people matter!
I am really confused. I am 65 years old and I am 6 feet tall with a 32 inch inseam, and all my life I have ridden full size bikes putting both feet flat on the ground when I stop with a bend in my knee. How is it you can't? I am betting you don't have a 32 inch inseam.
She’s awesome
🤣😂🤣more gears than a klr 650
It's just a shame it has an uncomfortable seat and no rack. Are beginners not allowed to go camping. The TW looks to be A bit slow, and the Himalayan, well, maybe that is really the ultimate beginner bike. Thanks for the review. I am learning a lot.
I wish you could review the Lifan motocycle LF250GY-4 , I cannot find anything on the net.
Hello from new Zealand just brought one down here in new Zealand as a farm bike kawasaki call it the stockman think it will be great 👍🏻
Great review 👏
Cheers
Between the 300L and this Kawi… it’s sees like it’s a remake of Toy Story which takes place in the above 55 RV Park..
I wish they would make a truly big man version of the small bikes. The engine and the brakes not being Spectacular is definitely something that I can live with. But I need to have suspension that can make it out of the parking lot in one piece. And a good enough c*** pilaria to wear. I'm not licking my knees.
I have the regular size version, and you pretty much nailed it on your review. Nice job.
They just need to make a klx650SM. A supermoto for normal people that can do some highway riding
5:48 is this thing gonna get hot … the exhaust shield will get quite warm but the partially exposed exhaust underneath will melt your flesh in seconds if touched … 6:02 you’ll be comfortable for what 10 or 20 minutes??? … lol try 10 or 20 seconds … I say this from experience, this is not a two up motorcycle to say the least … I am an owner of this bike