A corporate response with misspellings and typos is a red flag, as these types of letters usually go through a process of approvals where these mistakes should have been caught before they go public. This leaves me wondering if the author of this letter labeling themselves as "Management" and referring to themselves is "We" is a single individual acting on their own volition. In addition they spent the whole letter defaming the "alleged" co founder of Honeycomb, but they did not once respond to and take responsibility for the delays , cancellations and mis happenings at the company. I will hesitate to say this letter is real.
Their first mistake is giving the individual in question the title of "Founder and CEO". I have no idea if he owns any shares as I can't take the Honeycomb spokesman word on it, that is for the courts, but I won't accept that he doesn't just based on their reply. As far as "counterfeit" products, they are probably not "counterfeit" but an earlier stage of the same product. I mean, this "individual" didn't just pull tooling out of his ass to make "counterfeit" products. And if someone was selling them on the corner in a white ford Econoline van, I might just buy them if the price was good and I thought they'd work. I of course would never steer people towards a site that I personally don't know. But buying equipment from a guy they themselves gave the title of "Founder and CEO", sure. Will I? No. If this individual finds grounds that permit him to sell them as a founder or as a newly formed company, I don't see why not.
@WheezinGeezerTV. You (Everyone) really need to read the info on the FSElite website, link listed in the info section above. Also, for the 'Fullest Picture', you really do need to read ALL the additional information given in the web-links (the orange-highlighted words) by FSElite. I wish I still had a link to/copy of Nikki's original letter, where he made both the Company's, and his own, problems known. Personally, I totally believe that Nikki really IS the original "Founder & the CEO" of the original 'Honeycomb.Aeronautical Inc', also that the Charlie Pedals that he is selling are the genuine article and the one's that the H.K. imposters are selling are based on an early prototype, and it seems, 'built DOWN to a price', with cheaper, inferior and worse-finished products, in addition, it is actually 'THEIR' pedals that failed , 'under testing' at 140,000 cycles!
After 2 years I still haven’t bought a yoke, it was going to be Honeycomb. I guess I am going to have to wait a while longer or spring for something like the CLS60.😏
Staff in several countries, an engineering team, mounting legal fees - and no revenue? Correct me if I am wrong, but the news release you summarized did not (a) give any indication of how how all these expenses are being funded, (b) discuss liquidity, or (c) capital adequacy. So, I am highly skeptical of all of this. Ok, I am a retired commercial bank lender, so financial skepticism is ingrained in my DNA. I do hope Honeycomb survives and restarts production and product development; the Alpha, Bravo, and gen two Alpha have proven to be be excellent products.
As one of the unfortunate Charlie pre-order scam victims, I'm still waiting...waiting...waiting for any sign of delivery. Since mine was paid for a year and a half ago, I'm especially interested in their new products.
I have both the honeycomb alpha yoke and bravo throttle quadrant and greatly enjoy both products. Was all set to complete with the Charlie rudder pedals two years ago. Waited and waited. When it looked hopeless got a thrustmaser TPR rudder pedals instead and really enjoying those. So sorry Charlie. Hope you get it all worked out. I do enjoy honeycomb products.
Just checked out an old video of yours, glad you're still posting! Very interresting situation indeed. You don't get this type of drama in the flight sim area
Strange Honeycomb were at expo 2024, after looking at the FSElite article and various legal documents, shown. It looks like Snakebyte are the counterfeit product, and not the other way around, anyone else thinks the same?
My uninformed take from the cheap seats: 1. Nicki is an aviation enthusiast and a brilliant engineer. 2. Nicki is not a brilliant businessman. He gave trust to a partner without clear understanding and documentation as to each other's roles and responsibilities. 3. Nicki proceeded with development of HC products, presuming that said partner was handling the business side honorably. 4. Turns out, said partner was not at all trustworthy. He/they did not share Nicki's passion and mission for Honeycomb products. He/they diverted funds for purposes other than development and supply of Honeycomb products and obfuscated what was going on. 5. Nicki is trying gamely to wrest control of his brainchildren back from the snakes at Snakebite. I, for one, I hope he succeeds. Fwiw, I own the Alpha and Bravo controls. Along with Logitech pedals and a Wheelstand Pro, it's a sweet little setup.
The problem is we still don't know who to believe: Nicki Repenning or the other guy(s). What's weird is this latest announcement has no name attached, so I assume they are referring to Nicki when they say the individual who was calling himself "founder." It appears they (Mark?) have control of the website, and Nicki no longer has access. I could be totally wrong about this, of course. What's weirder is Honeycomb was present at FS Expo '24, but it wasn't Nicki. And, as one youtuber said, there was no excitement at the booth compared to years before.
@@ronstewtsaw I think you're right. I saw him a couple of times but never saw him at their "booth." I say this in quotes because it was nothing but a chair and a couple of empty Alpha packagings. I never saw anybody actually manning the booth. Very weird.
@@markfletcher4579 Thanks for adding one more bit of data to this strange, and frankly sad, story. Honeycomb could be ruling the virtual skies right now.
FSElite has has just put out an article with a statement from Nicki on his side. It is really sad to see what is going on. As quoted from Babylon 5 ; Understanding is a three edged sword. Your side, their side and the truth. ; At this point who knows what the truth is. I love my Alpha and bravo. But once I'm able to I hope to get the Turtle Beach rudders.
I built a cockpit in the Fall of 2023 and was fortunate enough to get the Alpha and Bravo just before the Honeycomb mess ensued. I purchased the Turtle Beach rudders and can highly recommend them.
"We wish this individual the best in his future endevours"....translation: Drop off, we're going to sue your butt if you don't stop. Our lawyers told us to post this before we procede!"😮
Totally off topic... Could you let me know how you changed the color of your traffic font? Thanks, and I just loaded up the UK landscape and flew around for a while. Having visited England back in 2007, it was nice to see it again. (we were guests at Windsor Castle for 10 days!, what a privilege!) Thanks for your continued presentations. Oh, and I pre ordered the CLS-60, which is FINALLY on it's way here to the States 😊.
Maybe one of your subscribers has ready access to S&P or Dun & Bradstreet where there should be some information on the nature and viability of "snakebyte" and Mr. whats-his-name. I'm feeling that someone or some entity is playing games and is disgruntled while laughing up their sleeve at all of us. After all "to be snakebitten" in the vernacular is to be hapless while in a disastrous situation and possibly doomed. From our perspective doesn't that best describe how things actually exist today with Honeycomb? And I agree with others in that the management update issued was not of corporate quality - my guess not written or checked by anyone whose first language is English - this being another red flag.
This looks like a letter designed to create confusion and doubt on the company in the hopes people stop buying products thereby bankrupting one side so the other can just take over by default. Sounds like there is a dispute of ownership and customers would be better off if the author of this letter didn’t win - dishonest and not professional. I have an Alpha and Bravo and no interest in the pedals, but if I did this letter would convert me from, staying away cautiously, to buying to support the person trying to recover the company. Wish you had given a stronger opinion in the video on the motives of this letter - which i can tell from your tone, you have.
Until I'm certain (which I'm not sure any of us ever will be in this case) of what the true story is, I will remain impartial reporting on this. Do check Nikki's side linked in the description.
@@Huddison what are confused with, we can help you! 😁 To be honest, it seems the CEO of Aeronautical Inc (San Diego) seems legit and it's the Hong Kong stable which is doing the dastidly deeds. It's all a bit Wacky Races if you ask me! 😃
A corporate response with misspellings and typos is a red flag, as these types of letters usually go through a process of approvals where these mistakes should have been caught before they go public. This leaves me wondering if the author of this letter labeling themselves as "Management" and referring to themselves is "We" is a single individual acting on their own volition. In addition they spent the whole letter defaming the "alleged" co founder of Honeycomb, but they did not once respond to and take responsibility for the delays , cancellations and mis happenings at the company. I will hesitate to say this letter is real.
Absolutely, more care should've been taken with this kind of report and should've been more carefully phrased.
Their first mistake is giving the individual in question the title of "Founder and CEO". I have no idea if he owns any shares as I can't take the Honeycomb spokesman word on it, that is for the courts, but I won't accept that he doesn't just based on their reply. As far as "counterfeit" products, they are probably not "counterfeit" but an earlier stage of the same product. I mean, this "individual" didn't just pull tooling out of his ass to make "counterfeit" products. And if someone was selling them on the corner in a white ford Econoline van, I might just buy them if the price was good and I thought they'd work. I of course would never steer people towards a site that I personally don't know. But buying equipment from a guy they themselves gave the title of "Founder and CEO", sure.
Will I? No. If this individual finds grounds that permit him to sell them as a founder or as a newly formed company, I don't see why not.
Great comments.
@WheezinGeezerTV. You (Everyone) really need to read the info on the FSElite website, link listed in the info section above. Also, for the 'Fullest Picture', you really do need to read ALL the additional information given in the web-links (the orange-highlighted words) by FSElite. I wish I still had a link to/copy of Nikki's original letter, where he made both the Company's, and his own, problems known.
Personally, I totally believe that Nikki really IS the original "Founder & the CEO" of the original 'Honeycomb.Aeronautical Inc', also that the Charlie Pedals that he is selling are the genuine article and the one's that the H.K. imposters are selling are based on an early prototype, and it seems, 'built DOWN to a price', with cheaper, inferior and worse-finished products, in addition, it is actually 'THEIR' pedals that failed , 'under testing' at 140,000 cycles!
@@smudge0356 Just uploading my video giving Nicki's version of events.
@@Huddison Thanks.
After 2 years I still haven’t bought a yoke, it was going to be Honeycomb. I guess I am going to have to wait a while longer or spring for something like the CLS60.😏
Sounds l;ike a great choice; although I still really rate the XPC yoke.
This is the right call 100%
Staff in several countries, an engineering team, mounting legal fees - and no revenue? Correct me if I am wrong, but the news release you summarized did not (a) give any indication of how how all these expenses are being funded, (b) discuss liquidity, or (c) capital adequacy. So, I am highly skeptical of all of this. Ok, I am a retired commercial bank lender, so financial skepticism is ingrained in my DNA. I do hope Honeycomb survives and restarts production and product development; the Alpha, Bravo, and gen two Alpha have proven to be be excellent products.
Lets hope they get their act together soon.
As one of the unfortunate Charlie pre-order scam victims, I'm still waiting...waiting...waiting for any sign of delivery. Since mine was paid for a year and a half ago, I'm especially interested in their new products.
Hope you receive them soon.
I have both the honeycomb alpha yoke and bravo throttle quadrant and greatly enjoy both products. Was all set to complete with the Charlie rudder pedals two years ago. Waited and waited. When it looked hopeless got a thrustmaser TPR rudder pedals instead and really enjoying those. So sorry Charlie. Hope you get it all worked out. I do enjoy honeycomb products.
Thanks for sharing.
Just checked out an old video of yours, glad you're still posting! Very interresting situation indeed. You don't get this type of drama in the flight sim area
Yes it's certainly entertaining.
Strange Honeycomb were at expo 2024, after looking at the FSElite article and various legal documents, shown. It looks like Snakebyte are the counterfeit product, and not the other way around, anyone else thinks the same?
"It appears that this letter does not meet the requisite standards and lacks the formal qualities typically found in legal documents."
I agree.
It's not a legal document, what point are you making exactly?
@@dtrjones it would be wasted on you
My uninformed take from the cheap seats:
1. Nicki is an aviation enthusiast and a brilliant engineer.
2. Nicki is not a brilliant businessman. He gave trust to a partner without clear understanding and documentation as to each other's roles and responsibilities.
3. Nicki proceeded with development of HC products, presuming that said partner was handling the business side honorably.
4. Turns out, said partner was not at all trustworthy. He/they did not share Nicki's passion and mission for Honeycomb products. He/they diverted funds for purposes other than development and supply of Honeycomb products and obfuscated what was going on.
5. Nicki is trying gamely to wrest control of his brainchildren back from the snakes at Snakebite. I, for one, I hope he succeeds.
Fwiw, I own the Alpha and Bravo controls. Along with Logitech pedals and a Wheelstand Pro, it's a sweet little setup.
The problem is we still don't know who to believe: Nicki Repenning or the other guy(s).
What's weird is this latest announcement has no name attached, so I assume they are referring to Nicki when they say the individual who was calling himself "founder." It appears they (Mark?) have control of the website, and Nicki no longer has access.
I could be totally wrong about this, of course.
What's weirder is Honeycomb was present at FS Expo '24, but it wasn't Nicki. And, as one youtuber said, there was no excitement at the booth compared to years before.
Exactly! We need more clarity for certain.
I saw Nicki doing an interview at FSExpo24. He was definitely around.
@@markfletcher4579 Am I right that Honeycomb (whatever or whoever that is) had a booth there? And Nicki was not at that booth?
@@ronstewtsaw I think you're right. I saw him a couple of times but never saw him at their "booth." I say this in quotes because it was nothing but a chair and a couple of empty Alpha packagings. I never saw anybody actually manning the booth. Very weird.
@@markfletcher4579 Thanks for adding one more bit of data to this strange, and frankly sad, story. Honeycomb could be ruling the virtual skies right now.
You always fly over my house when you capture footage out of [LCY]. 😁
I'll remember to wave next time ;)
FSElite has has just put out an article with a statement from Nicki on his side. It is really sad to see what is going on. As quoted from Babylon 5 ; Understanding is a three edged sword. Your side, their side and the truth. ; At this point who knows what the truth is. I love my Alpha and bravo. But once I'm able to I hope to get the Turtle Beach rudders.
Thanks I've added the link to it in the description.
I built a cockpit in the Fall of 2023 and was fortunate enough to get the Alpha and Bravo just before the Honeycomb mess ensued. I purchased the Turtle Beach rudders and can highly recommend them.
"We wish this individual the best in his future endevours"....translation: Drop off, we're going to sue your butt if you don't stop. Our lawyers told us to post this before we procede!"😮
Brilliant 😁
I was thinking of another 4 letter word starting with F!
Not really heard of Homecomb before but never the less very intriguing.
They were considered the best at one point in time.
Hopefully I wont need any flight joysticks sooon , I realy like Honey Comb and cant have anything else.
Let's hope they get the truth out there soon Mike and get their act together. Just finishing editing part 2..
Totally off topic... Could you let me know how you changed the color of your traffic font? Thanks, and I just loaded up the UK landscape and flew around for a while. Having visited England back in 2007, it was nice to see it again. (we were guests at Windsor Castle for 10 days!, what a privilege!) Thanks for your continued presentations. Oh, and I pre ordered the CLS-60, which is FINALLY on it's way here to the States 😊.
The different colours for nameplates is done via Flow: th-cam.com/video/ZTPijLNDLK8/w-d-xo.html
Let us know your thoughts on the CLS-60.
@@Huddison Thanks so much! Surely will let you know on Fabian's product 👍.
Maybe one of your subscribers has ready access to S&P or Dun & Bradstreet where there should be some information on the nature and viability of "snakebyte" and Mr. whats-his-name. I'm feeling that someone or some entity is playing games and is disgruntled while laughing up their sleeve at all of us. After all "to be snakebitten" in the vernacular is to be hapless while in a disastrous situation and possibly doomed. From our perspective doesn't that best describe how things actually exist today with Honeycomb? And I agree with others in that the management update issued was not of corporate quality - my guess not written or checked by anyone whose first language is English - this being another red flag.
Yes, something is iffy about the whole thing.
Great news! For a handful of lawyers that is.
😊😁
This looks like a letter designed to create confusion and doubt on the company in the hopes people stop buying products thereby bankrupting one side so the other can just take over by default. Sounds like there is a dispute of ownership and customers would be better off if the author of this letter didn’t win - dishonest and not professional. I have an Alpha and Bravo and no interest in the pedals, but if I did this letter would convert me from, staying away cautiously, to buying to support the person trying to recover the company. Wish you had given a stronger opinion in the video on the motives of this letter - which i can tell from your tone, you have.
Until I'm certain (which I'm not sure any of us ever will be in this case) of what the true story is, I will remain impartial reporting on this.
Do check Nikki's side linked in the description.
I did not realize pilots can fly their planes from outside the aircraft?
Set an Autopilot altitude and heading, then use heading mode to fly around.
He carried the Title of Founder and CEO of the Company? So he's not confused then, YOU are?
Somewhat..
@@Huddison what are confused with, we can help you! 😁 To be honest, it seems the CEO of Aeronautical Inc (San Diego) seems legit and it's the Hong Kong stable which is doing the dastidly deeds. It's all a bit Wacky Races if you ask me! 😃
Peeps... Just get the HOTAS joystick, buy the CJ Typhoon with Turbo's livery plus Coningsby and enjoy 😊😊😊
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