High noble gold crowns are best for the posterior teeth. They don't wear down opposing teeth and will not shatter. They also require the least amount of original tooth structure to be removed. I had mine placed on a molar in my early 20s and it will likely last me the rest of my life.
What is the timeline from start to finish? I need 2 upper premolars made. I just had the implants put in a week ago and I’m trying to figure out a timeframe. It’s been a long journey so far from extraction to implant. I just want to know when I can get my teeth back in. Lol.
Implants take on average around 4-5 months for integration into the bone. So if you just had them placed, I would advise waiting until the spring 2023 to have them restored (say around April or May). Some implants come coated with "Active" surfaces which improves the rate of bone integration (sometimes by a month or two), but depends what type of implant your surgeon placed. I wouldn't push it to get the final crowns because if you load the implants too soon before full integration has occurred, you could actually cause them to fail, and this gets more and more relevant the further back in the mouth you go where forces increase. The restorative process usually takes about 2-4 weeks once the implant impression is made.
@@TrilapseStudios ok. Thanks for the reply and info. I went back for my post op check and everything is good. The doc said come back in 4 months and they’ll do a torque test to make sure the implants can hold crowns. So I got at least 5-6 months till I get the crowns actually installed.
@@theinfidelH8 Yes exactly, sounds about right for the timeline. Just make sure you're not eating on that side where the implants were placed for the duration of the healing period and you should be good to go. Best of luck with the process! The hard part is over!
Yes, I suggest you purchase from 2 companies where I purchased them from: Brasseler and Shofu. Most of the polishers I was using were from Shofu, but Brasseler sells pretty much the same products. brasselerusadental.com/ www.shofu.com/en/products/abrasives/stones/dura-green-stones/
Trilapse Studios I'm from the UK and unfortunately none of these ship there, any chnace you you know anyone in England that sells these bits of equipment
Hey man, no worries, everything I'm using is dental related so looking on dental sites is probably you're best bet if you're looking for similar tools. I'm not sure what kind of business you're running, but if you can use dental-type instruments, here's some places you can start. I actually don't know any UK distributors though sorry, I've spent my whole life in North America! :) Why don't you try to contact Brasseler International first to get more information about their international market: busadental.com/contact-us/. A simple search on their international page shows Richard Stagg as the international contact.
Yes of course, here you go: Step 1. Dura-Thin Metal Cutting Disc (UM) from Keystone Industries (1300660) Step 2. Mizzy Heatless Stone Wheel (UM) from Keystone Industries (6130500) Step 3. Dura-Green Stone Tapered Cylinder TC4 (HP) from Shofu (HP TC4 0042) or Patterson Dental (635-5408) Dura-Green Stone Flame FL3 (HP) from Shofu (HP FL3 0011) or Patterson Dental (635-4476) *you can also use any kind of multi-flulted carbide burs, like round burs from #8 down to #1, for occlusal anatomy Step 4. Brownie (HP) from Shofu (HP PC2 0272) or Patterson Dental (636-0770) Step 5. Abbott-Robinson Brush #12 Std Stiff Grey (HP) from Buffalo Dental (06161) or Patterson Dental (147-2034) Tripole (anywhere really, but Keystone Industries has it - 1660030) Step 6. Greenie (HP) from Shofu (HP PC2 0275) or Patterson Dental (363-0861) Step 7. Abbott-Robinson Brush #12 Soft Brown (HP) from Buffalo Dental (06141) or Patterson Dental (147-4501) Red Rouge (anywhere really, but Keystone Industries has it - 1660070) Step 8. Supergreenie (HP) from Shofu (HP PC2 0278) or Patterson Dental (363-0952) I hope the numbers are still the same, I haven't ordered any of this stuff for about 5 months, but I don't think anything should have changed since then.
It depends on the step and type of bur that you're using. I tend to follow the company recommendations, but usually stay well under from their max speed. I'm using Brasseler and Shofu but check based on your burs. Here's approx what I'm using based on what Brasseler says. 1. Separating Disc: 25,000 RPM (it gets hot, so you can cool in water every so often) 2. Heatless Stone: 5,000-10,000 RPM 3. Green Stone: 20,000-30,000 RPM (this is a bit too fast for me, I go around 15,000-20,000 RPM) 4. Brownie, Greenie, Supergreenie: 20,000 RPM (on the lab bench....if you're using the intra-oral ones though to polish after adjusting occlusion, stay well below that around 7,000 RPM). 5. Abbot-Robinson Brush: 5,000-10,000 RPM Hope that helps!
@@TrilapseStudios I am going to the Veterans administration dental office next month to have my impressions done for 29 & 30 molar implants. I have a strong bite pressure and had broken pontic # 30 porcelain years ago that’s why I wanted to replace them with gold high noble metal. I get everything free at the VA but as I said if there is a possibility of galvanism I will ask my dentist if porcelain fused to gold will work having the crowns done with porcelain fused to gold. Thank you, you have been very helpful Sir, have a blessed day.
@@philipjones5364 If you have a heavy bite force and are concerned about galvanism, you might want to consider Monolithic Zirconia restorations instead of porcelain fused to metal (PFM). With the PFM restorations, the porcelain is layered on top of a gold core, and is sometimes sensitive to heavy bite forces and would be susceptible to chipping (doesn't always happen, but there's always a risk). Zirconia is more favourably smoother than porcelain too. Just some things to discuss with your dentist.
You get what you pay for. If you want something that will last, you should ask your dentist about using a metal alloy that has high nobility (or a high noble alloy, which has at least 60% gold, palladium, or platinum. And of that 60%, at least 40% has to be gold). These kinds of metals are much more expensive (maybe an extra $200-$300 more on the lab fee than a regular crown), but I've seen them last a lifetime, so cheaper in the long run. The standard metals used nowadays are noble alloys (which are between 25%-40% gold, palladium, or platinum content). They're cheaper initially, but if not well maintained you can get recurrent decay and may need to have it replaced for an additional expense. In Canada, the Fee Guide sets the dentist fee for a single crown at around $700 to $800. The lab bill (expense for materials and fabrication) is added on top. The dentist has the ability to raise or lower the dentist fee at his/her discretion.
Thank you I'm Just a kid with a low end job really leaning towards the gold dealing with the aftermath of 5 years of braces all sorts of work needed to be done thank you for the info
@@mikehascats26 Even nickel and beryllium free non-precious are very long lasting, no need for semi-precious or precious in my opinion. Plus, gold is aesthetically poor in the mouth- they appear black due to lack of light refraction inside the mouth.
Hi is the same method used for making grillz
Fabulous job
Which is better for the posterior noble gold metal or high noble and what are the deferences in alloy content.
High noble gold crowns are best for the posterior teeth. They don't wear down opposing teeth and will not shatter. They also require the least amount of original tooth structure to be removed. I had mine placed on a molar in my early 20s and it will likely last me the rest of my life.
What is the timeline from start to finish? I need 2 upper premolars made. I just had the implants put in a week ago and I’m trying to figure out a timeframe. It’s been a long journey so far from extraction to implant. I just want to know when I can get my teeth back in. Lol.
Implants take on average around 4-5 months for integration into the bone. So if you just had them placed, I would advise waiting until the spring 2023 to have them restored (say around April or May). Some implants come coated with "Active" surfaces which improves the rate of bone integration (sometimes by a month or two), but depends what type of implant your surgeon placed. I wouldn't push it to get the final crowns because if you load the implants too soon before full integration has occurred, you could actually cause them to fail, and this gets more and more relevant the further back in the mouth you go where forces increase. The restorative process usually takes about 2-4 weeks once the implant impression is made.
@@TrilapseStudios ok. Thanks for the reply and info. I went back for my post op check and everything is good. The doc said come back in 4 months and they’ll do a torque test to make sure the implants can hold crowns. So I got at least 5-6 months till I get the crowns actually installed.
@@theinfidelH8 Yes exactly, sounds about right for the timeline. Just make sure you're not eating on that side where the implants were placed for the duration of the healing period and you should be good to go. Best of luck with the process! The hard part is over!
Very beautiful ,good job
Проба какая?
I am having this procedure this Thursday!! 22 August 2019 Is my EAOS! 1988
31 years
Im 31 getting mines on tuesday, 18k cant wait
Can someone help me by linking all the tools used in this video, would be a massive help for me as I'm trying to start up my business
Yes, I suggest you purchase from 2 companies where I purchased them from: Brasseler and Shofu. Most of the polishers I was using were from Shofu, but Brasseler sells pretty much the same products.
brasselerusadental.com/
www.shofu.com/en/products/abrasives/stones/dura-green-stones/
Oh, and polishing compounds can be purchased from Dialux
Trilapse Studios thank you, and the actual hand polish machine? Finding it difficult to source that
Trilapse Studios I'm from the UK and unfortunately none of these ship there, any chnace you you know anyone in England that sells these bits of equipment
Hey man, no worries, everything I'm using is dental related so looking on dental sites is probably you're best bet if you're looking for similar tools. I'm not sure what kind of business you're running, but if you can use dental-type instruments, here's some places you can start. I actually don't know any UK distributors though sorry, I've spent my whole life in North America! :)
Why don't you try to contact Brasseler International first to get more information about their international market: busadental.com/contact-us/. A simple search on their international page shows Richard Stagg as the international contact.
Nice
hi, can you say the name of the company's burs and where to buy these burs and brushes
Yes of course, here you go:
Step 1.
Dura-Thin Metal Cutting Disc (UM) from Keystone Industries (1300660)
Step 2.
Mizzy Heatless Stone Wheel (UM) from Keystone Industries (6130500)
Step 3.
Dura-Green Stone Tapered Cylinder TC4 (HP) from Shofu (HP TC4 0042) or Patterson Dental (635-5408)
Dura-Green Stone Flame FL3 (HP) from Shofu (HP FL3 0011) or Patterson Dental (635-4476)
*you can also use any kind of multi-flulted carbide burs, like round burs from #8 down to #1, for occlusal anatomy
Step 4.
Brownie (HP) from Shofu (HP PC2 0272) or Patterson Dental (636-0770)
Step 5.
Abbott-Robinson Brush #12 Std Stiff Grey (HP) from Buffalo Dental (06161) or Patterson Dental (147-2034)
Tripole (anywhere really, but Keystone Industries has it - 1660030)
Step 6.
Greenie (HP) from Shofu (HP PC2 0275) or Patterson Dental (363-0861)
Step 7.
Abbott-Robinson Brush #12 Soft Brown (HP) from Buffalo Dental (06141) or Patterson Dental (147-4501)
Red Rouge (anywhere really, but Keystone Industries has it - 1660070)
Step 8.
Supergreenie (HP) from Shofu (HP PC2 0278) or Patterson Dental (363-0952)
I hope the numbers are still the same, I haven't ordered any of this stuff for about 5 months, but I don't think anything should have changed since then.
@@TrilapseStudios wow. Very responsive and informative. Thank you very much.
Thanks for the video! Quick question, what is the rpm during the whole process?
It depends on the step and type of bur that you're using. I tend to follow the company recommendations, but usually stay well under from their max speed. I'm using Brasseler and Shofu but check based on your burs. Here's approx what I'm using based on what Brasseler says.
1. Separating Disc: 25,000 RPM (it gets hot, so you can cool in water every so often)
2. Heatless Stone: 5,000-10,000 RPM
3. Green Stone: 20,000-30,000 RPM (this is a bit too fast for me, I go around 15,000-20,000 RPM)
4. Brownie, Greenie, Supergreenie: 20,000 RPM (on the lab bench....if you're using the intra-oral ones though to polish after adjusting occlusion, stay well below that around 7,000 RPM).
5. Abbot-Robinson Brush: 5,000-10,000 RPM
Hope that helps!
@@TrilapseStudios Thank you...excellent video and that crown looks so good it should be displayed in a museum.
@@TrilapseStudios
I am going to the Veterans administration dental office next month to have my impressions done for 29 & 30 molar implants. I have a strong bite pressure and had broken pontic # 30 porcelain years ago that’s why I wanted to replace them with gold high noble metal. I get everything free at the VA but as I said if there is a possibility of galvanism I will ask my dentist if porcelain fused to gold will work having the crowns done with porcelain fused to gold. Thank you, you have been very helpful Sir, have a blessed day.
@@philipjones5364 If you have a heavy bite force and are concerned about galvanism, you might want to consider Monolithic Zirconia restorations instead of porcelain fused to metal (PFM). With the PFM restorations, the porcelain is layered on top of a gold core, and is sometimes sensitive to heavy bite forces and would be susceptible to chipping (doesn't always happen, but there's always a risk). Zirconia is more favourably smoother than porcelain too. Just some things to discuss with your dentist.
Anybody know how much it cost with insurance i want a crown that will last
You get what you pay for. If you want something that will last, you should ask your dentist about using a metal alloy that has high nobility (or a high noble alloy, which has at least 60% gold, palladium, or platinum. And of that 60%, at least 40% has to be gold). These kinds of metals are much more expensive (maybe an extra $200-$300 more on the lab fee than a regular crown), but I've seen them last a lifetime, so cheaper in the long run.
The standard metals used nowadays are noble alloys (which are between 25%-40% gold, palladium, or platinum content). They're cheaper initially, but if not well maintained you can get recurrent decay and may need to have it replaced for an additional expense.
In Canada, the Fee Guide sets the dentist fee for a single crown at around $700 to $800. The lab bill (expense for materials and fabrication) is added on top. The dentist has the ability to raise or lower the dentist fee at his/her discretion.
Thank you I'm Just a kid with a low end job really leaning towards the gold dealing with the aftermath of 5 years of braces all sorts of work needed to be done thank you for the info
how about a semi precious crown that does not have nickel or beryllium? won't they last long?
@@TrilapseStudios why is it that in FL they can pay real cheap prices for “22k” permanent?
@@mikehascats26 Even nickel and beryllium free non-precious are very long lasting, no need for semi-precious or precious in my opinion. Plus, gold is aesthetically poor in the mouth- they appear black due to lack of light refraction inside the mouth.
Можно было бы болгаркой, а лучше бензопилой, отрезать коронку от литника. 🤪
Can you make me a tooth?
That’s definitely 10k...?