"Would you take car seat advice from a childless man" gives me the same energy as "Would you go to an oncologist that never had cancer?" Like, WHAT? The f are you talking about?
Hi forensic anthropologist here! Half the things Lauren talks about doing she is NOT qualified to be doing she is/was a mortician not a medical examiner, forensic scientist, or pathologist. As a funeral home director she isn’t investigating crime scenes or offering opinions to police officers. She isn’t a medical professional she should not be performing autopsies or anything even similar. Half her stories are either exaggerated, lies, or stolen. Trust PROFESSIONALS if she wants to talk about funeral practices or embalming amazing she’s qualified but talking about child safety, car seats, or investigations is irresponsible and not her field.
She acts like she’s a coroner/ medical examiner My friend works as a mortician and removes bodies but that’s only obvious natural causes as part of the end of life care
FA here too, and that’s just facts. The closest they may have been to a case is picking up the remains from the morgue after they have been released by law enforcement/coroners office/ME’s office
I went to school for mortuary science. I also did work for my local corner's office I did Body removal once it was cleared by the corners office .ect . Small towns don't all have a place to get licensed for mortuary science so they have to train under someone. I guess like her dad then go to a place like McAllister and prove she did a certain amount of hours ect. She would never do a lot of the things she is claiming she did . I worked in the corners office and didn't even do a lot of the stuff she says she did. In fact a some of her facts don't make sense .
THANK YOU. B*tch thinks she's the gotdamn M.E. I took ONE semester each of forensic science and criminal justice and even I know she's wildly unqualified to talk about anything other than funeral prep. Jfc 🤦♀️ It's really the doubling-down arrogance that makes this all the worse.
I think it’s more that she’s seen a lot of bodies and is warning people not to do the things that got those kids killed. I haven’t seen her claim anything like that
Why does she think a video of her on the phone with her dad counts as proof? We don’t know him and the fact that she was allegedly working under her parent just makes her sound more sketchy in my opinion
Eh, a lot of funeral homes/mortuary business are family owned and run over several generations. But I still would never trust such a video as proof, especially with all of those “non answers” that were given
It could have been anyone too. She could have paid a stranger $5 to call her phone and just answer the way she wants. It's just a male voice. Unless I missed something because I didn't see the entire tiktok as I don't feel like looking for it and watching even more of that lol
I was in Lauren's snarkreddit a little bit ago, and there are a few people in there claiming that they have met her father, and he's debunked a good chunk of what she claims online. I don't think the person on the phone was her father.
I have seen multiple TikTok’s from this woman, claiming that she has done things that only in medical examiner should do. so, that leaves us two options. 1, she’s lying or 2, the funeral home that she worked at was allowing someone with no medical background, no training in medicine, and no training in forensic science to act as medical examiner which is a bigger problem
A lot of smaller places don't have actual medical examiners. Regular doctors, morticians and even less qualified people are the coroners, so unless foul play is suspected they can declare the cause of death and fill out the death certificate. Not a great system, especially in this day and age.
@@keetonorrell9572it’s not just Arkansas. The title “coroner” is an elected position generally and typically does not require any kind of medical background. “Medical examiner” does require a medical degree and is hired based on experience and merit, not elected.
@@ANYHOO0Not every death requires a pathologist or a medical examiner. Only ones that died in inconclusive circumstances be it foul play or other unknown cause. Most only need any available doctor to fill out a death certificate and put in the suspected cause of death. It's impossible to autopsy everyone and I'm sure their families would not like it to happen either way. I assure you it's like that all over the world not just in the US.
Or like how the question regarding how long she worked was only about “working just one year” resulting in the dad just saying it wasn’t true and no comment for how long she worked
Thank you for saying being a parent doesn’t just magically make you educated in everything. Wayyyyy too many parents think they know best “just because” they’re a parent.
Your comment is dead on I'm a parent and I know for sure I know what works and has worked for my kid but doesn't mean it can or will work for anyone else's but that "I know better than you" attitude that some moms have is scary and vile! My friend nearly died having her kid and she just wanted to talk to other moms who went through something like her... they told her in the group she found because she had a c-section she wasn't a real mother...
@@Orangejuicenow moms think that just because they have a kid, they’re entitled to everyone else’s is bc theyre a mother. also moms feel untitled bc 75% times, they always get custody
Did you see she stole a story about a baby who died of waterbeads? She claims she was the mortician and the mother who is a big tiktok creator is claiming shes lying. I guess she showed the moms baby in the tiktok and thats how she knew it was her baby
Do you know which creator it was? The video I just watched where she showed how Waterbeads cause intestinal blockages, the mom of the child who ingested them and has permanent neurological damage now, thanked her
When she was like, "Karma gets you access to more parts of reddit!" did she mean /r/centuryclub? It's such a huge honor and worth so much to be in CC. (/s)
I have tried 3 or 4 times to be on Reddit and have given up each time. LOL! I did not get how to engage and work the comments or anything. LOL! @@SarahBrown-mg6cy
6:57 I can confidently say most mothers DO NOT know how to use their car seats correctly, most people assume car seats are self explanatory but it's really important to make sure it's level, as well as properly tightened, plus a lot of mothers will put their babies in car seats wearing puffy jackets or with clothes bunched up under the straps.
There was a post in a mum group about her and the amount of people that didn't listen to facts and were still like "BUT SHES A MOTHER, SHE KNOWS BETTER. SHES SEEN BODIES, SO SHE KNOWS BETTER THAN PROFESSIONALS" it didn't take long to realise talking to them was like talking to a brick wall. Her little tiktok cronies are honestly ridiculous 😂
Even if mums did know better, she's constantly trying to prove that she is in fact a qualified professional. But when faced with an actual expert suddenly she knows best just because she's a mother
Worth noting she goes on rapid fire deletes to remove and block anyone saying anything remotely negative-like when she openly admits that she basically swatted villain, there’s not a single bad comment. Weird.
But but but Angelica didn't you know... Dads go to dad-school overnight when they get a child, and moms all of a sudden become children product experts hahahaha
Apparently this lawyer is also representing the owner of Gerard cosmetics who’s using Paige Christie’s dead Aunties pictures to promote her hair brand and refuses to stop using the images it’s really disgusting I just watched Paige’s video on it and the lawyer is causing so much distress to her family through emails etc it’s so sick
i haven't seen kitty's videos in a bit, but last i checked she was teaching women to outcreep creeps and hence her being a villain life coach is her coaching people on how to match energy.
That analogy of fair use and manslaughter made my brain hurt. That’s like saying that if you admit you’re in a boxing league, you’ve already admitted to assault. That is very much not how that works.
Omg I never thought I'd see Kitti on your channel!! The whole villain life coach thing is because she gives life advice that can be a bit... Unhinged. Like how to make unwanted advances from men stop by making them uncomfortable. She runs a very pro-woman, take back your power account.
Kitty the villain life couch teaches women to protect themselves from unhinged men with unhinged tactics, not being an actual villain 🤣 I laughed so hard when you said "I guess it to teach us to be a villain"
It is now codified in Section 107 of the Copyright Act, which provides that fair use of a work “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, or research)” is not an infringement of copyright. This is a direct quote from Harvard. Fair use is not defending infringement. It is outright not infringement. This lawyer is unhinged for her weird ideas on copyright.
Thank you, this wasn’t sitting right with me! If you claim self defense you aren’t “admitting to murder but for a good reason,” you are admitting to causing the death of someone and explaining why it isn’t murder. And this is from my law and order knowledge so…😂
Yk my mom also has kids so that means she’s also qualified to have an expert opinion on every child-related product ever. If u disagree with tht then you must be a pervert those r the rules people
Most likely, but in order to play that character, AND give others advice, what exactly are you tapping into? It’s a convenient and smart ruse for being a bitch to others and getting back on those you feel “bullied” by. Genius, ina a capitalist sense; gross in a moral sense. 🤷♀️
So I'm about 2 months pregnant.. does anyone know at what point the product knowledge kicks in? Do i slowly get it as the baby bakes or is it all at once after birth?
Something even worse about the fan email that I didn't hear you mention was, like Kitty, the lawyer tried to CC the fans mom into the cease and desist but ended up Cc'ing a random 3rd party that now has an email with a TON of personal info about said fan. When I heard she did this with Kitty i was confused about how legal it was to share private legal matters with an adults parent without consent, but knowing that she actually messed up and sent a person's private information to a complete stranger is disgusting.
Another thing to add in the update is the recent TikTok she posted about how it was her who called in a wellness check. I didnt watch past that point but everyone in her comments is 50/50 on who is in the wrong.
I'm going to have to stop Ms. Braun with her "admitting to copyright infringement" nonsense. No. Using a parody defense is admitting to *using* the copyrighted material, not infringement. Just like self-defense arguments for murder is admitting to *killing* the person, not to *murder.* Those are legal terms, murder and copyright infringement, and the whole thing about these valid defenses is that they make the action essentially *not that.* Killing someone in self-defense isn't murder. Legally using copyrighted material, by definition, isn't copyright infringement. If it was, it wouldn't be legal.
Oh, we're in the upswing again of absolutely insane drama, good to know. Also I lost it when she said reddit karma was the equivalent of making profit online
I used to like her videos but since she was fake being positive about that bathtub splash screen i started to despise her cause no real „professional“ would deem that shit deathtrap as safe for kids
What is up with this lawyer?! She’s been all over the drama videos this week for multiple weird moves. Her involvement with what’s going on with Paige is straight up disgusting.
That’s the same lawyer??????? That makes so much sense. F that woman. Edit: just got to the end of the video. I stand by my statement. That lawyer is unhinged.
I'm glad you cleared that up. I used to watch her and think that America had a very strange system for mortician services. She gets so much wrong and seems to have about 17 different jobs.. All apparently what a mortician does in the US? CSI, hospice care, etc etc It's good to hear that actual morticians aren't keen on her.
She used to annoy the crap out of me when she came up on my fyp. She had an air of thinking of herself as “child death expert” which I thought was a very weird flex
I believe you are thinking of swatting, a wellness check only makes sure that the person in question is there and can answer the police. Thats why wellness checks are not so effective for people who do self harm, they can just say "im okay" and be done. Police are not violent in wellness checks. On the other hand, its a threat regardless. Because it basically says "i know who you are, were you live and could hurt you if i wanted"
(Disclaimer: I have autism) I've only seen like two of her videos and in one of them she calls herself an AUTISM MOMMY. wtf? She is the mother of an autistic child. She doesn't have autism. It's giving vibes of her thinking she's this hero for having a developmentally disabled child. And then when you add in her natural remedies/vaccine rhetoric I get such icky vibes, I can see her on those mum forums talking about how vaccines cause autism. I dread to think about the environment that child is growing up in given how she's acting.
Mhm feels like exploitation of her child's diagnosis. I have autism too and I feel like her speaking like this is actually closer to ableism than awareness, or support. I think you're on the nose with this. 🎉
Yeah, she's that type that'd probably advertise a combo deal on a bleach cure + the Irreversible damage book with the "I'm the voice of my child" narrative if she could get more clout than trouble out of it
I tried to ask her what the detox serum whose intended to do, like what the purpose of it was and she blocked me. I asked nicely and with genuine curiosity but she didn't want to have that conversation
Kittie's whole "villain life coach" thing is teaching women how to deal with creepy men by making them deeply, deeply uncomfortable (and maybe a little traumatized) so they leave you tf alone
So many people who are social media famous in their little niche have the biggest egos and it’s like, babe, no one in the real world actually knows who tf you are.
That mortician girl and her lawyers think they live in N Korea. You put something out there on a public platform that’s on you! Now I’m a pro photographer so I understand my rights.
Same here. I went to college for photography, and i still follow other photographers, like photo stealers, that give you a general idea of ACTUAL copyright infringement. The using the photos of the dead family member is 100% copyright infringement. The stitches with LtM were basically her giving permission by allowing stitches.
This alleged attorney sounds unwell. Both her and the supposed mortician chick have a victim mentality. Crazy how they found each other online. But back to the “attorney”, that Kitty girl can easily go after their asses and have a pretty good case against them.
The lawyer is giving illuminaughti vibes, idk how to explain it. But comparing fair use as an admission of copyright infringement, to self defense as an admission of murder is so..... incorrect. She must be great at yoga with all that reaching she does.
I gotta say i love the videos that are longer because im listening (and sometimes viewing) at work so it makes an hour go by SO fast to listen to you explain these situation-gates😁😊
@@keljells omg yessss honestly same 😂 but WAIT you know what, just because you like tiktok drama doesn't make you a sad human, so I suppose I shouldn't feel bad for it either 🤔 d@mn my therapist got me good with that one 😂
She said in an interview that she worker in the coroners office as a transporter by picking up the body from wherever, take it to the coroner, then take it to the funeral home. No idea if it’s true lol
Explanation for kitti and what a villian life coach is: she essentially tells folks her way of scaring away men who cant take no for an answer. Basically when a guy wont stop cat calling make him think your certified crazy and problem solved. Now do i think all men giving compliments deserve that treatment? No, but most woman/hell even young girls have dealt with someone who took it way too far. And the reason people are getting them confused is they both use the beetle juice thing where they showcase comment's tagging them on others videos then stitch the video and give their commentarys on it. Vastly different video types too,woman recounting harassing storys for kitty, and anything death for lauren. Its not at all because they look alike but bc people were complaining bout Laurens drama with the carseat dude which sent hate kittys way bc people would explain who its about saying you know the girl who does the beetle juice thing. Well With two people doing the beetle juice thing its understandable that people got their lines crossed but kitti only did her very original video to explain that they are different creators with sus ass similar calling cards(beetle juice thing)(i guess you could call it).
In Australia, and I think the UK, you can counter-sue for "unjustified threats" if someone wrongfully (as in, maliciously without justification) sues you, or threatens to sue you, for copyright infringement. I wonder if there is a similar thing in the US?
She's great, she teaches people how to out-creep creeps. Basically gives you possible ideas to use when you're feeling threatened by someone and her personal experiences, like continuously asking a guy about his organ health and lamenting how she wouldn't be able to get a lot of money for his parts; or using a lanyard with keys for self defense; or hysterically crying when someone tried to ask her out, saying she just came back from the morgue to identify her late husband and describing it in gruesome detail.
Wait until you hear the police call where they both, "mortician" and " lawyer" ask for a welfare check on the kitty lady!! The poor call handler seemed utterly bemused.
I just stumbled upon your last video on her and I was like, oh she better have an update on the latest craziness. I clicked on your channel and thank you. I have been following this on TikTok.
I honestly hate the way some women talk about being mothers, like every woman is a dormant witch who becomes magically wise the second she gives birth. Sit DOWN!
Omg thats so embarrassing. Sometimes I get into an argument online and want to orove myself or get revenge but then I remember Im 42 and would look ridiculous if I did so.
She really started bothering me whwn she acted like she coined "morbid minute" when Caitlin Doughty has been doing videos by that name for years. Shes SO fake.
I watched this thinking, did she forget about screen record? 😂 I realized the quality would probably not be the best. Great work! She keeps vids about her suppressed on TT!
the most annoying thing about the lawyer and what she's saying is that people follow her and take her advice, and are more likely to report "copyright infringement" falsely because they were misled by her "information"
7:49 She's trying to do the thing all homophobes do which is call a queer person, especially a gay man, a predator. It's a tale older than the dirt we're living on.
Was confused about this lady because the only mortician I know on the internet is Caitlin Doughty (sp?), she seems to only talk about funeral practices though and maybe talk to other experts about their releated fields
Caitlin is very careful and conscientious about not doing ANYTHING to make the mortuary field look bad because she knows what kind of feelings a lot of people already have in regards to after death care she does her damndest not to step out of her field of knowledge and will reach out to people she knows know better about the topics she's talking about because she doesn't want to overstep and potentially cause controversy
The first video I’ve seen of hers was her talking about things she took out of child bodies, And no mortician should be opening bodies. Your job is to prepare them for burial. You’re not a medical examiner.
I don’t really know what’s going on but seeing Kitty in a YT thumbnail is *WILD* lmaooo We’re internet friends and she’s the *best* 🖤🖤🖤 And for clarification, as a villain life coach, she pretty much just helps people feel empowered to assert their boundaries and get out of uncomfortable/awful/dangerous situations that men are always putting people in. And she reminds people that it’s okay to say “no” and that you don’t owe anyone who’s making you uncomfortable kindness. She’s amazing and I love her so much 🖤🦇 Kitty if you see this, it’s Alix 🖤 I haven’t been on TikTok in forever and apparently I missed *a lot* lmaooo
She'll likely strike your channel for copyright, as her air head lawyer, Jeannette Braun (aka Janet) has done twice to Do We Know Them, Becca, and Kitty. I think also Paige Christie. I think all of the creators should get together and sue them both for harassment, given the ludicrous emails Janet sends out and the fact that both Lauren tM and Janet have lied about what they've done. Kitty's schtick is making men who aggressively sexualize women just walking down the street,so uncomfortable about what she says back to them,that they learn to leave women alone. She's sarcastic and harmless.
paige blurred her face but I immediately recognized her while watching this, I was like waittt isn't this the same lawyer paige christie posted about that represents gerard cosmetics? oh she's a horrible lawyer
Self-Studying to be a forensic pathologist here! (Self study because I’m not yet old enough for college but plan on going!) I wish more people would realize that a mortician does FUNERAL PREPARATIONS!! If you want to get into autopsies and stuff, you want to aim for forensic pathology. Forensic pathology deals with the autopsies, and can sometimes work with police investigations (not always). Sometimes autopsies are not done for investigation purposes. Sometimes they are used for specifications(examples: heart attack due to heart defect, allergy discovered too late, etc.) sometimes they are good for discovering medical conditions or genetic mutation’s previously undiscovered. If this kind of thing intrigues you definitely look into being a FP and not just a mortician!
The Villain Life Coach title is in reference to her "traumatizing the men who bother [her]" and teaching mostly women and queer folx how to do the same. Mostly she gives... unhinged safety/survival tips ranging from how to carry a lanyard in a way that can be used for self defense to how to fake cry or laugh with your mouth closed to make creepy men run away. Edit: this also translates into just general advice on being assertive and prioritizing your own safety and wellbeing in sketchy situations
this is why the only mortician i will ever watch on the internet is Caitlin Doughty from Ask a Mortician here on youtube. Stays in her lane, researches like crazy and invites professionals from other areas on her platform
I love Caitlin Doughty and I’ve bought her books! She’s so wonderful truly, I love her channel and she is so informative and considerate about everyone culturally as well as lgbtq+ individuals with bad family relationships.
A horrible lawyer acting on behalf of a horrible mortician. There's something poetic in all of it, I'll be waiting for their downfall with anticipation.
As someone who passed the bar and wrote a journal comment on copyright law in law school... I cannot believe this lawyer. There is no case here. No judge would give this the time of day. Also, putting a video up on a snark subreddit will not be enough for a judge to call copyright infringement. They are not taking viewers away from the original content that would then harm the moneymaking opportunities of the original poster, they are not claiming it to be their own content, and they are not profiting off of the original creator's work. It is posted for purposes of discussion and commentary, and not to infringe on copyright. A judge would dismiss this immediately.
I think part of the message from the attorney is…you can think what you want but if someone has the money to harass you through attorneys and the courts and you don’t, good luck.
As a mother I am not automatically an expert. But prettysure the DUEL training he has trumps her being a mother. I mean plenty of mothers on TikTok shes calling out for not keeping kiddos safe. Yet surely as mothers they are able to know whats best. I mock Lauren. The guy is certified. Thats equally as valid as the law stating you cannot sell a carseat thats not safe. His opinion will trump hers BECAUSE he knows how to install safely AND teach caregivers how to use safely. I see the " legal expert" gaslights well" Transformative use is PART of the fairuse policy and frequently its transformed by adding information and context that the Original might not have shared included or chosen to use.
"Would you take car seat advice from a childless man" gives me the same energy as "Would you go to an oncologist that never had cancer?" Like, WHAT? The f are you talking about?
Would you rather trust a MOTHERRRR with MOTHER INSTINCTS, or a mannnnnn with a silly little engineering a design degree??! 🤨 /s
Can’t trust her as a mortician because she’s never died. Clear as glass.
No the point is she isn’t qualified . Period .
Hi forensic anthropologist here! Half the things Lauren talks about doing she is NOT qualified to be doing she is/was a mortician not a medical examiner, forensic scientist, or pathologist. As a funeral home director she isn’t investigating crime scenes or offering opinions to police officers. She isn’t a medical professional she should not be performing autopsies or anything even similar. Half her stories are either exaggerated, lies, or stolen. Trust PROFESSIONALS if she wants to talk about funeral practices or embalming amazing she’s qualified but talking about child safety, car seats, or investigations is irresponsible and not her field.
She acts like she’s a coroner/ medical examiner
My friend works as a mortician and removes bodies but that’s only obvious natural causes as part of the end of life care
FA here too, and that’s just facts. The closest they may have been to a case is picking up the remains from the morgue after they have been released by law enforcement/coroners office/ME’s office
I went to school for mortuary science. I also did work for my local corner's office I did Body removal once it was cleared by the corners office .ect . Small towns don't all have a place to get licensed for mortuary science so they have to train under someone. I guess like her dad then go to a place like McAllister and prove she did a certain amount of hours ect. She would never do a lot of the things she is claiming she did . I worked in the corners office and didn't even do a lot of the stuff she says she did. In fact a some of her facts don't make sense .
THANK YOU. B*tch thinks she's the gotdamn M.E.
I took ONE semester each of forensic science and criminal justice and even I know she's wildly unqualified to talk about anything other than funeral prep. Jfc 🤦♀️ It's really the doubling-down arrogance that makes this all the worse.
I think it’s more that she’s seen a lot of bodies and is warning people not to do the things that got those kids killed. I haven’t seen her claim anything like that
Why does she think a video of her on the phone with her dad counts as proof? We don’t know him and the fact that she was allegedly working under her parent just makes her sound more sketchy in my opinion
Eh, a lot of funeral homes/mortuary business are family owned and run over several generations. But I still would never trust such a video as proof, especially with all of those “non answers” that were given
Right? Because parents never lie for their children.
It could have been anyone too. She could have paid a stranger $5 to call her phone and just answer the way she wants.
It's just a male voice.
Unless I missed something because I didn't see the entire tiktok as I don't feel like looking for it and watching even more of that lol
I was in Lauren's snarkreddit a little bit ago, and there are a few people in there claiming that they have met her father, and he's debunked a good chunk of what she claims online. I don't think the person on the phone was her father.
Let me call my best friend so she can tell u guys the truth about how I'm richer than Elon musk. She confirmed it so obv it's true!!
Her calling her dad is so funny. Its what Draco Malphoy would do if he got called out.
Definite _“My father will hear about this!”_ vibes💀
Lmfaoooo omfg not Draco!! 😩😩😩😂😂😂😂
I have seen multiple TikTok’s from this woman, claiming that she has done things that only in medical examiner should do. so, that leaves us two options. 1, she’s lying or 2, the funeral home that she worked at was allowing someone with no medical background, no training in medicine, and no training in forensic science to act as medical examiner which is a bigger problem
A lot of smaller places don't have actual medical examiners. Regular doctors, morticians and even less qualified people are the coroners, so unless foul play is suspected they can declare the cause of death and fill out the death certificate. Not a great system, especially in this day and age.
@@ANYHOO0In arkansas in the USA it’s an elected position 🥴
@@keetonorrell9572 that tracks!😂
@@keetonorrell9572it’s not just Arkansas. The title “coroner” is an elected position generally and typically does not require any kind of medical background. “Medical examiner” does require a medical degree and is hired based on experience and merit, not elected.
@@ANYHOO0Not every death requires a pathologist or a medical examiner. Only ones that died in inconclusive circumstances be it foul play or other unknown cause. Most only need any available doctor to fill out a death certificate and put in the suspected cause of death. It's impossible to autopsy everyone and I'm sure their families would not like it to happen either way. I assure you it's like that all over the world not just in the US.
I like how she didn’t have a DUI while working. No denial of ever getting a DUI though.
I picked up on that too. Those questions were very carefully worded.
Or like how the question regarding how long she worked was only about “working just one year” resulting in the dad just saying it wasn’t true and no comment for how long she worked
Thank you for saying being a parent doesn’t just magically make you educated in everything. Wayyyyy too many parents think they know best “just because” they’re a parent.
Your comment is dead on I'm a parent and I know for sure I know what works and has worked for my kid but doesn't mean it can or will work for anyone else's but that "I know better than you" attitude that some moms have is scary and vile! My friend nearly died having her kid and she just wanted to talk to other moms who went through something like her... they told her in the group she found because she had a c-section she wasn't a real mother...
It’s the entitlement, especially from mothers
@@sofiap8148 could you elaborate on what specific entitlement? Like what kind of examples
@@Orangejuicenow moms think that just because they have a kid, they’re entitled to everyone else’s is bc theyre a mother. also moms feel untitled bc 75% times, they always get custody
@@sofiap8148 what is this opinion based on? Most women experience the highest levels of DA & R
Her lawyer misusing and seemingly misunderstanding basic legal terms like murder and infringement is HILARIOUS 😂😂
Did you see she stole a story about a baby who died of waterbeads? She claims she was the mortician and the mother who is a big tiktok creator is claiming shes lying. I guess she showed the moms baby in the tiktok and thats how she knew it was her baby
it just gets WORSE and WORSE
What?! Oh no!!
That’s insane! How would she think she could get away with that?
How does she have followers?!
Do you know which creator it was? The video I just watched where she showed how Waterbeads cause intestinal blockages, the mom of the child who ingested them and has permanent neurological damage now, thanked her
"ah yes i knew there was something with the insurance"... That gives me a lot of confidence in her
That hit weird for me too.
Very oh yeah yeah yeah I know that I know that *obviously* bcs I'm the real deal.... mmhmm...
I can’t believe the lawyer compared Reddit karma, arguably the least valuable kind of internet points, to real life rent-paying money 💀
Right?! Also, likes 👍🏽 and clout. Lmao
Between this and the lawyer who used an anime filler in their court arguments I believe anyone can be a lawyer.
When she was like, "Karma gets you access to more parts of reddit!" did she mean /r/centuryclub? It's such a huge honor and worth so much to be in CC. (/s)
@@namyenohI know I needed a minimum karma to post or comment in most subs. Reddit confuses me
I have tried 3 or 4 times to be on Reddit and have given up each time. LOL! I did not get how to engage and work the comments or anything. LOL!
@@SarahBrown-mg6cy
6:57 I can confidently say most mothers DO NOT know how to use their car seats correctly, most people assume car seats are self explanatory but it's really important to make sure it's level, as well as properly tightened, plus a lot of mothers will put their babies in car seats wearing puffy jackets or with clothes bunched up under the straps.
There was a post in a mum group about her and the amount of people that didn't listen to facts and were still like "BUT SHES A MOTHER, SHE KNOWS BETTER. SHES SEEN BODIES, SO SHE KNOWS BETTER THAN PROFESSIONALS" it didn't take long to realise talking to them was like talking to a brick wall.
Her little tiktok cronies are honestly ridiculous 😂
Uggh, typical annoying facebook moms.
Ive seen babies born addicted to meth, do those parents know better? I blame facebook for this crazy mentality that mothers know best.
@@lillymoon7506exactly. What about all the "mothers" who dump their babies in trashcans? I guess they know better cuz "they're moms" 🙄
Even if mums did know better, she's constantly trying to prove that she is in fact a qualified professional. But when faced with an actual expert suddenly she knows best just because she's a mother
Worth noting she goes on rapid fire deletes to remove and block anyone saying anything remotely negative-like when she openly admits that she basically swatted villain, there’s not a single bad comment. Weird.
But but but
Angelica didn't you know... Dads go to dad-school overnight when they get a child, and moms all of a sudden become children product experts hahahaha
😂😂😂💀
Does this woman even have children? If so where is her husband? Come get your wife off the internet!!!
@@Vlaloca777 She has said she has children but she might be single. I wouldn’t want to stay with a woman like that
Apparently this lawyer is also representing the owner of Gerard cosmetics who’s using Paige Christie’s dead Aunties pictures to promote her hair brand and refuses to stop using the images it’s really disgusting I just watched Paige’s video on it and the lawyer is causing so much distress to her family through emails etc it’s so sick
Omg Jen? Wow that's crazy...
I saw it allI could hear in Paiges voice was tears. Her family must be distraught.😢😢
I was going to comment about that as well. Looks like they are all using the same Lawyer.
I thought I recognized her voice!!!! God that whole situation is so awful :(((
Also represents Gabbie Egan!
I cannot believe people are taking her advice over a person with a LICENSE in car seat safety. It blows my mind
i haven't seen kitty's videos in a bit, but last i checked she was teaching women to outcreep creeps and hence her being a villain life coach is her coaching people on how to match energy.
Yes. Her videos are a mix of scare creepy men away. But also.. satire. In general. The fact Ms. Fake mortician threatened to dox her... ugly.
That analogy of fair use and manslaughter made my brain hurt. That’s like saying that if you admit you’re in a boxing league, you’ve already admitted to assault. That is very much not how that works.
Janet: I'm a lawyer.
Marica Brady: Sure, Jan.👀
Marcia Marcia Marcia!!!!
Omg I never thought I'd see Kitti on your channel!! The whole villain life coach thing is because she gives life advice that can be a bit... Unhinged. Like how to make unwanted advances from men stop by making them uncomfortable. She runs a very pro-woman, take back your power account.
OHHHHHH that makes sense
Yes, it’s mostly various advice about protecting yourself from men
@@PeachysMomas a lesbian with a femme girlfriend, this sounds right up our alley and like things we already do! I’ll have to check her out lol.
There was Esther Bethard and dear baby was from Philadelphia. Hope that helps proves the Florida Mortician is a liar liar pants on 🔥
She’s absolutely a gem, I adore Kitti
Kitty the villain life couch teaches women to protect themselves from unhinged men with unhinged tactics, not being an actual villain 🤣 I laughed so hard when you said "I guess it to teach us to be a villain"
It is now codified in Section 107 of the Copyright Act, which provides that fair use of a work “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, or research)” is not an infringement of copyright.
This is a direct quote from Harvard. Fair use is not defending infringement. It is outright not infringement. This lawyer is unhinged for her weird ideas on copyright.
Thank you, this wasn’t sitting right with me! If you claim self defense you aren’t “admitting to murder but for a good reason,” you are admitting to causing the death of someone and explaining why it isn’t murder. And this is from my law and order knowledge so…😂
Yk my mom also has kids so that means she’s also qualified to have an expert opinion on every child-related product ever. If u disagree with tht then you must be a pervert those r the rules people
THOSE are the rules 😅
I'm pretty sure Villain Life Coach is tongue-in-cheek and a character that she's playing. Like someone that Dr. Horrible would hire.
Most likely, but in order to play that character, AND give others advice, what exactly are you tapping into?
It’s a convenient and smart ruse for being a bitch to others and getting back on those you feel “bullied” by.
Genius, ina a capitalist sense; gross in a moral sense.
🤷♀️
Oh my god dr horrible’s reference in the wild (also yes you are correct about the villain life coach being tongue-in-cheek)
Definitely a candidate for the Evil League of Evil
Yes! And she’s awesome
Kitty is the best 🖤
We’re mutuals on TikTok and I love her so much 🦇
So I'm about 2 months pregnant.. does anyone know at what point the product knowledge kicks in? Do i slowly get it as the baby bakes or is it all at once after birth?
Also 2 months pregnant and wondering when I'll have access to this vast, inscrutable knowledge
probably an instant download of baby product knowledge right as labour kicks in. It's pre orderd lmao. All the best to your and your child🎉
This is my favorite comment 😂
Uh oh it's supposed to happen the moment of insemination!
you have to remove the chip in your brain and plug it in to the baby knowledge machine! hope this helps! /j
Something even worse about the fan email that I didn't hear you mention was, like Kitty, the lawyer tried to CC the fans mom into the cease and desist but ended up Cc'ing a random 3rd party that now has an email with a TON of personal info about said fan. When I heard she did this with Kitty i was confused about how legal it was to share private legal matters with an adults parent without consent, but knowing that she actually messed up and sent a person's private information to a complete stranger is disgusting.
Another thing to add in the update is the recent TikTok she posted about how it was her who called in a wellness check. I didnt watch past that point but everyone in her comments is 50/50 on who is in the wrong.
Is that the same lawyer who called the police for a wellness check?.
@@lisadunn1138 yeah
I'm going to have to stop Ms. Braun with her "admitting to copyright infringement" nonsense. No. Using a parody defense is admitting to *using* the copyrighted material, not infringement. Just like self-defense arguments for murder is admitting to *killing* the person, not to *murder.* Those are legal terms, murder and copyright infringement, and the whole thing about these valid defenses is that they make the action essentially *not that.* Killing someone in self-defense isn't murder. Legally using copyrighted material, by definition, isn't copyright infringement. If it was, it wouldn't be legal.
I stand by parenting makes you experienced on certain things but that doesn’t make you a professional.
I’d trust a professional over trial and error.
It makes you experienced on YOUR kid though. Not other people’s kids
@@bridi0821 honestly, sometimes not even with their own kid.
Oh, we're in the upswing again of absolutely insane drama, good to know. Also I lost it when she said reddit karma was the equivalent of making profit online
I used to like her videos but since she was fake being positive about that bathtub splash screen i started to despise her cause no real „professional“ would deem that shit deathtrap as safe for kids
I knew it didn't sit right with me and I didn't watch another video since. It felt so fake in a way I couldn't articulate 🎉
I kinda want one of those screens, but my child is 9 years old so theirs a much smaller chance of something terrible happening while using it.
What is up with this lawyer?! She’s been all over the drama videos this week for multiple weird moves.
Her involvement with what’s going on with Paige is straight up disgusting.
That’s the same lawyer??????? That makes so much sense. F that woman.
Edit: just got to the end of the video. I stand by my statement. That lawyer is unhinged.
Actually mortician here… please don’t lump her with us. Morticians I know don’t like her and her lies she likes to throw out.
I'm glad you cleared that up. I used to watch her and think that America had a very strange system for mortician services. She gets so much wrong and seems to have about 17 different jobs.. All apparently what a mortician does in the US? CSI, hospice care, etc etc It's good to hear that actual morticians aren't keen on her.
She used to annoy the crap out of me when she came up on my fyp. She had an air of thinking of herself as “child death expert” which I thought was a very weird flex
9:52 sending police to anyone’s door for a wellness check is literally asking for violence against that person to happenn
I believe you are thinking of swatting, a wellness check only makes sure that the person in question is there and can answer the police. Thats why wellness checks are not so effective for people who do self harm, they can just say "im okay" and be done. Police are not violent in wellness checks.
On the other hand, its a threat regardless. Because it basically says "i know who you are, were you live and could hurt you if i wanted"
@@mariapaz6379police do get violent at wellness checks. it happens a lot.
(Disclaimer: I have autism) I've only seen like two of her videos and in one of them she calls herself an AUTISM MOMMY. wtf? She is the mother of an autistic child. She doesn't have autism. It's giving vibes of her thinking she's this hero for having a developmentally disabled child. And then when you add in her natural remedies/vaccine rhetoric I get such icky vibes, I can see her on those mum forums talking about how vaccines cause autism. I dread to think about the environment that child is growing up in given how she's acting.
Mhm feels like exploitation of her child's diagnosis. I have autism too and I feel like her speaking like this is actually closer to ableism than awareness, or support. I think you're on the nose with this. 🎉
Yeah, she's that type that'd probably advertise a combo deal on a bleach cure + the Irreversible damage book with the "I'm the voice of my child" narrative if she could get more clout than trouble out of it
I tried to ask her what the detox serum whose intended to do, like what the purpose of it was and she blocked me. I asked nicely and with genuine curiosity but she didn't want to have that conversation
I like how she's using her dad for proof. Like her dad wouldn't lie for her
Kittie's whole "villain life coach" thing is teaching women how to deal with creepy men by making them deeply, deeply uncomfortable (and maybe a little traumatized) so they leave you tf alone
This whole situation is WILD my jaw is literally on the floor listening to you explaining the story.
this is insane 😭😭 the ego on some of these tiktok creators is crazy, like what kind of bs
So many people who are social media famous in their little niche have the biggest egos and it’s like, babe, no one in the real world actually knows who tf you are.
The lawyer is also going after Paige Christie on behalf of Jen Gerard. Wild.
That mortician girl and her lawyers think they live in N Korea. You put something out there on a public platform that’s on you! Now I’m a pro photographer so I understand my rights.
Same here. I went to college for photography, and i still follow other photographers, like photo stealers, that give you a general idea of ACTUAL copyright infringement.
The using the photos of the dead family member is 100% copyright infringement. The stitches with LtM were basically her giving permission by allowing stitches.
Oh im so glad she got HER DAD to confirm these things are lies 😂😂😂
Right! Its not like he's got any bias. How embarrassing for her.
This alleged attorney sounds unwell. Both her and the supposed mortician chick have a victim mentality. Crazy how they found each other online. But back to the “attorney”, that Kitty girl can easily go after their asses and have a pretty good case against them.
your makeup screams november i love it
i’m trying to go more autumnal 🤎
@AngelikaOles i thought you maybe had snow already in england. at least we do in scandinavia. neat makeup anyways😍
The lawyer is giving illuminaughti vibes, idk how to explain it. But comparing fair use as an admission of copyright infringement, to self defense as an admission of murder is so..... incorrect. She must be great at yoga with all that reaching she does.
This woman being a lawyer makes me feel more confident about my ability to be a lawyer lolol
Been watching you since the shame drama started. you look amazing! thanks for the video
thank you 💗💗💗
I gotta say i love the videos that are longer because im listening (and sometimes viewing) at work so it makes an hour go by SO fast to listen to you explain these situation-gates😁😊
I agree I get bummed when I see only 12mim videos and get all “yay” when it’s 20 min plus lol. I’m also a sad human being. Hahaha
@@keljells omg yessss honestly same 😂 but WAIT you know what, just because you like tiktok drama doesn't make you a sad human, so I suppose I shouldn't feel bad for it either 🤔 d@mn my therapist got me good with that one 😂
She said in an interview that she worker in the coroners office as a transporter by picking up the body from wherever, take it to the coroner, then take it to the funeral home. No idea if it’s true lol
17:40 Wait. I'm on reddit. You can't use karma like currency. What???? Is there some special little shop on reddit I didn't know about?
The fact this is the same lawyer that Jen gerrard is using, no comment , I just watched Paiges video. This is one active tiktok lawyer
I was waiting to hear about this again! I also thought it couldn’t get worse but here we are…
It seems to get worse every day 😭
I love Kitti! She teaches women/afab people/femme presenting people how to handle men who are bothering you!
Kitty the villainess lifecoach is INCREDIBLE!! Her voice lives in my head and has transformed my life!
I think she needs help
Explanation for kitti and what a villian life coach is: she essentially tells folks her way of scaring away men who cant take no for an answer. Basically when a guy wont stop cat calling make him think your certified crazy and problem solved. Now do i think all men giving compliments deserve that treatment? No, but most woman/hell even young girls have dealt with someone who took it way too far.
And the reason people are getting them confused is they both use the beetle juice thing where they showcase comment's tagging them on others videos then stitch the video and give their commentarys on it. Vastly different video types too,woman recounting harassing storys for kitty, and anything death for lauren.
Its not at all because they look alike but bc people were complaining bout Laurens drama with the carseat dude which sent hate kittys way bc people would explain who its about saying you know the girl who does the beetle juice thing. Well With two people doing the beetle juice thing its understandable that people got their lines crossed but kitti only did her very original video to explain that they are different creators with sus ass similar calling cards(beetle juice thing)(i guess you could call it).
In Australia, and I think the UK, you can counter-sue for "unjustified threats" if someone wrongfully (as in, maliciously without justification) sues you, or threatens to sue you, for copyright infringement. I wonder if there is a similar thing in the US?
I'm sorry, but a Villian Life Coach is the funniest thing I've ever heard of and I'm here for it
She's great, she teaches people how to out-creep creeps. Basically gives you possible ideas to use when you're feeling threatened by someone and her personal experiences, like continuously asking a guy about his organ health and lamenting how she wouldn't be able to get a lot of money for his parts; or using a lanyard with keys for self defense; or hysterically crying when someone tried to ask her out, saying she just came back from the morgue to identify her late husband and describing it in gruesome detail.
that attorney needs to be reported to her bar association she really shouldn't be practicing
Sorry i wouldn't want to hire this lawyer if this is how they go about things but thats my personal opinion
Wait until you hear the police call where they both, "mortician" and " lawyer" ask for a welfare check on the kitty lady!! The poor call handler seemed utterly bemused.
Kitty is about how to out creep the creeps.
I just stumbled upon your last video on her and I was like, oh she better have an update on the latest craziness. I clicked on your channel and thank you. I have been following this on TikTok.
Villain life coach is just a fancy name for a regular life coach that teaches you confidence
I honestly hate the way some women talk about being mothers, like every woman is a dormant witch who becomes magically wise the second she gives birth. Sit DOWN!
Being a mom.. yes, yes I would trust that guy. Lol, it’s not weird if that’s his job🤷🏼♀️ she’s a lunatic
If she is such an expert why did child almost drown due to no safety net around the pool. Being a mother isn’t a qualification on good judgement.
Tell me, you’re an Internet lawyer without telling me you’re an Internet lawyer.🧐
I genuinely dont believe this is a real lawyer, her degree is as real as one i could whip up on Microsoft word in 5 minutes
10:10 a QUEEN she really said “you will not bully me into silence” I LOVE her 😂
Omg thats so embarrassing. Sometimes I get into an argument online and want to orove myself or get revenge but then I remember Im 42 and would look ridiculous if I did so.
She really started bothering me whwn she acted like she coined "morbid minute" when Caitlin Doughty has been doing videos by that name for years. Shes SO fake.
That’s funny because I’m all the time reporting fake accounts and get back they didn’t violate anything 😂😂
I watched this thinking, did she forget about screen record? 😂 I realized the quality would probably not be the best. Great work! She keeps vids about her suppressed on TT!
You can’t copyright a tiktok ??? Why is she sending cease and desists for copyright 🥴
the most annoying thing about the lawyer and what she's saying is that people follow her and take her advice, and are more likely to report "copyright infringement" falsely because they were misled by her "information"
7:49
She's trying to do the thing all homophobes do which is call a queer person, especially a gay man, a predator. It's a tale older than the dirt we're living on.
Why would there be copyright attorneys if ONLY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER CAN STRIKE??? That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard
You were one of the first drama channels I ever watched and I guess I didn’t subscribe back then but here you are again! Subscribed!
I used to be an investigator for child abuse/neglect and some parents are 1000% not to be seen as an authority for safety.
Was confused about this lady because the only mortician I know on the internet is Caitlin Doughty (sp?), she seems to only talk about funeral practices though and maybe talk to other experts about their releated fields
Caitlin is very careful and conscientious about not doing ANYTHING to make the mortuary field look bad because she knows what kind of feelings a lot of people already have in regards to after death care she does her damndest not to step out of her field of knowledge and will reach out to people she knows know better about the topics she's talking about because she doesn't want to overstep and potentially cause controversy
This video needs more views! People need to know what she’s doing, because she has too many parents listening to her
The first video I’ve seen of hers was her talking about things she took out of child bodies,
And no mortician should be opening bodies. Your job is to prepare them for burial.
You’re not a medical examiner.
I don’t really know what’s going on but seeing Kitty in a YT thumbnail is *WILD* lmaooo
We’re internet friends and she’s the *best* 🖤🖤🖤
And for clarification, as a villain life coach, she pretty much just helps people feel empowered to assert their boundaries and get out of uncomfortable/awful/dangerous situations that men are always putting people in. And she reminds people that it’s okay to say “no” and that you don’t owe anyone who’s making you uncomfortable kindness.
She’s amazing and I love her so much 🖤🦇
Kitty if you see this, it’s Alix 🖤
I haven’t been on TikTok in forever and apparently I missed *a lot* lmaooo
getting reddit karma making a post commercial use is the funniest thing i've ever heard in my life
The way the villain life coach lady talks is giving redditor 😭😭😭
She'll likely strike your channel for copyright, as her air head lawyer, Jeannette Braun (aka Janet) has done twice to Do We Know Them, Becca, and Kitty. I think also Paige Christie. I think all of the creators should get together and sue them both for harassment, given the ludicrous emails Janet sends out and the fact that both Lauren tM and Janet have lied about what they've done. Kitty's schtick is making men who aggressively sexualize women just walking down the street,so uncomfortable about what she says back to them,that they learn to leave women alone. She's sarcastic and harmless.
paige blurred her face but I immediately recognized her while watching this, I was like waittt isn't this the same lawyer paige christie posted about that represents gerard cosmetics? oh she's a horrible lawyer
Self-Studying to be a forensic pathologist here! (Self study because I’m not yet old enough for college but plan on going!) I wish more people would realize that a mortician does FUNERAL PREPARATIONS!! If you want to get into autopsies and stuff, you want to aim for forensic pathology. Forensic pathology deals with the autopsies, and can sometimes work with police investigations (not always). Sometimes autopsies are not done for investigation purposes. Sometimes they are used for specifications(examples: heart attack due to heart defect, allergy discovered too late, etc.) sometimes they are good for discovering medical conditions or genetic mutation’s previously undiscovered. If this kind of thing intrigues you definitely look into being a FP and not just a mortician!
The Villain Life Coach title is in reference to her "traumatizing the men who bother [her]" and teaching mostly women and queer folx how to do the same. Mostly she gives... unhinged safety/survival tips ranging from how to carry a lanyard in a way that can be used for self defense to how to fake cry or laugh with your mouth closed to make creepy men run away.
Edit: this also translates into just general advice on being assertive and prioritizing your own safety and wellbeing in sketchy situations
It’s giving real estate attorney trying to practice copyright law.
this is why the only mortician i will ever watch on the internet is Caitlin Doughty from Ask a Mortician here on youtube. Stays in her lane, researches like crazy and invites professionals from other areas on her platform
I love Caitlin Doughty and I’ve bought her books! She’s so wonderful truly, I love her channel and she is so informative and considerate about everyone culturally as well as lgbtq+ individuals with bad family relationships.
A horrible lawyer acting on behalf of a horrible mortician. There's something poetic in all of it, I'll be waiting for their downfall with anticipation.
she called her DAD to debunk the statements? cus then lemme just call my mom and tell her to say im a millionaire, maybe it’ll come true
12:58 this attorney has filed like 1000s for this woman Kelsey to take down another mom Kodye. It’s wild lol
Oh my god him literally bringing his work home with him means he's trustworthy and obviously has the certifications to be a car seat specialist.
As someone who passed the bar and wrote a journal comment on copyright law in law school... I cannot believe this lawyer. There is no case here. No judge would give this the time of day.
Also, putting a video up on a snark subreddit will not be enough for a judge to call copyright infringement. They are not taking viewers away from the original content that would then harm the moneymaking opportunities of the original poster, they are not claiming it to be their own content, and they are not profiting off of the original creator's work. It is posted for purposes of discussion and commentary, and not to infringe on copyright. A judge would dismiss this immediately.
Is this a real lawyer? Because that case she’s citing isn’t saying what she claims it is.
I think part of the message from the attorney is…you can think what you want but if someone has the money to harass you through attorneys and the courts and you don’t, good luck.
As a mother I am not automatically an expert. But prettysure the DUEL training he has trumps her being a mother.
I mean plenty of mothers on TikTok shes calling out for not keeping kiddos safe. Yet surely as mothers they are able to know whats best.
I mock Lauren.
The guy is certified. Thats equally as valid as the law stating you cannot sell a carseat thats not safe.
His opinion will trump hers BECAUSE he knows how to install safely AND teach caregivers how to use safely.
I see the " legal expert" gaslights well"
Transformative use is PART of the fairuse policy and frequently its transformed by adding information and context that the Original might not have shared included or chosen to use.
Lauren has always given me the ick and I am so glad people are finally calling her out on her bs.