These women are always convinced they're saving their kids...or saving the possibility that anyone would ever tell the truth in her absence. Shame is an incredible motivator.
Post your address and number for drop offs! No Help and Mom felt HOPELESS! Many are struggling and others are not able to help. Not easy unless you and others pick up the slack.
I don't blame the mom ... let you kids LIVE! ... to a family member ... friend ... neighbor ? ... ... and these kids will more likely be abused (physically, mentally, sexually) May they all Rest In Peace.
You’re right. Fortunately I doubt adult will actually think that is the case. But I understand your need to correct the title. Many times titles are misleading or just wrong.
@ did he know what was going on did he truly it said they were pushed over the railing so this means he was probably just looking at the falls thinking he was on a family trip were did it state that the 9 year old knew his mom was going to do this? Also true the 9 year olds death is terrible and he was probably terrified when he fell but don’t forget the 5 month old just because he’s a baby don’t act like he wasn’t terrified.ill pray they find them.
I think back to when I was a fourth grader and how everything was an adventure, safe, and enjoyable. This poor kid must have been terrified out of his mind. God keep him.
America's good times ended right around the time that Fox News got big. Who could have imagined that turning half the voting public into rage-addled morons could have such negative outcomes?!?
I know. My oldest granddaughter is 9 and I just don’t want to think of how terrified this little girl would have been. We desperately need more services for people hurting from depression and other mental health problems. So many people feel totally alone.
@@LuvtahoeYou are something else!!! 🤬 Talk about toxicity. It appears you spread toxicity and your hate speech everywhere . Something is wrong with you. 🐑
@@Luvtahoe Stop getting your “news” from regime run media and you could find yourself learning some TRUTH!!! Look up Pelosi’s video on “smearing” and “wrap up smears”. Apply that to a lot of the sh*t you hear from your regime run media. 🤯
@@LuvtahoeI doubt mega has anything to do it if anything the current government is making it very difficult to survive! May those children rest in peace!
Check on the new moms you know, especially if they’re doing it without much support. Postpartum psychosis and depression are very real. Not saying this is what caused this tragedy, but please check on new moms.
Post partum depression also seems to be getting worse with each generation. I'd like to know why? Are there any common denominators in each case? I hope these cases are looked into deeper and compared.
@@jackiemcdonell1737it’s multifaceted but I think it’s the fact that as women (collectively) we are expected to carry more of a load. Work full time, raise kids and all the while support systems have diminished significantly. The internet has also created a false sense of reality where as moms we often feel like we aren’t doing enough or what we’re doing isn’t meaningful. It’s so easy to compare to someone online but we only see the positive, note worthy, curated stuff. Also for many women they wind up being single parents which is a whole stressor itself. Economic concerns compile and stress becomes unmanageable for many women.
Isn't the power something you can't describe to others just so hard. I stood upriver and the speed of the water was incredible and I tell people who haven't been there and they don't seem to understand it. Like people the power and speed is unlike anything I've seen and they just say "oh I know" and I'm like "NO. . .YOU DO NOT KNOW obviously cause you wouldn't say it like that." One question I have is how has whatever feeds the falls...how has it not ran out of water? The falls runs ALL DAY everyday, all year and whatever feeds it never runs out. How? I have looked at the source but I swear something else feeds it. It's just so powerful it should have drained an ocean already. Lol. It's crazy.
60 years ago, when i was a kid, children would end up in a children's home if their parents were divorcing. There were 3 sisters who were in that situation, and the father came to take them out for the day. He took them to the notorious cliffs called The Gap in Sydney, New South Wales. When school resumed, we'd learned that the father pushed his eldest (my friend) over the edge, grabbed the two youngest, and jumped. It was the first time I'd experienced such senseless loss. Becoming a nurse, then a first responder, left me with no surprises, sadly.
💔those poor children - and how harrowing that must have been for you! One can only guess at the confused level of love and despair that leads a parent to take such a step.💔🙏
so sorry to hear that happened to those children. It's affected you all these years. At age 11 we were driving to church one Sunday morning. Along the country road of corn fields I saw one of my buddies from church standing on a small hill by the road. My parents didn't see him and drove by. At church his parents said he was missing for 2 days. I told them I saw him coming to church that morning but my parents didn't stop for him. his parents followed us back home and I saw him again but no one else did. We stopped and I ran up to my friend, he didn't speak to me. In the weeds before where I saw him my father found his body and his motorcycle he had just purchased against his parents wishes. I saw his soul standing over his body. That has stayed with me all these years. No one could see his body from the road due to the weeds, but his spirit was standing over where he died.
You have no idea what the truth is, so stop making things up. That's just cruel! Opinions don't matter situations like this. The truth does, and we're not gonna find The Truth. As long as people said on social media making up their own stories. Because it's what works for them!
A few years ago, one of my sister's neighbors drowned her 2 young children (one was just a babe) and then walked into a river. She suffered post-partum depression. No one realized it was so bad. So very sad and tragic.
stop making excuses. wahhh i had a baby and i can no logner control myself. give me a break. women need to get tougher and or a clue. she walked over a guard rail and into one of the most brutal waterfalls in the world. that's not an impulse driven by body chemistry. it's premeditated and deliberate.
I live on the Canadian side. It's too bad that no one was able to see what she was about to do and could've interceded. How awful for that to have happened...
I think she was murdered A lot of people secretly have murdered on Halloween day The fake news media cover this false but sotonist represent that us an gift to the devil
Its pitch black out at 9 pm now. Was this planned or why would someone go to the falls at 9 pm? More to the story I think. God Bless the little children. Tragic.
Is that true or just your opinion? I watch a TH-camr in Russia and it's terrible. Probably the same in a lot of places like Cuba, n. Korea, China.. etc
Social engineering has led to families being forced to move farther from their home towns. The safety net has been eroded. Family doctors just don’t care.
@@valeriemoran842 You can ask for help but it doesn't mean help exists. I asked for help. Got blamed instead. I would never have hurt my children, though, and I would never have hurt myself because that would harm them (edited to add: but I didn't have post partum psychosis)
She was a domestic violence counselor, her family & friends said that she was always in good spirits and there wasn't a human alive that she wouldn't help. You never know what people are going through......
Considering her baby is only 5 months old, I have a feeling PP psychosis was involved. These types of murd3r sewercides always hit hard 😢 The terror her 9 year old must have felt is unimaginable. And what the mother did was unforgivable, but at the same time I have sympathy for her if it was infact post partum psychosis. To have your mind betray you to the point of thinking this was the only option is tragic.
Being a domestic violence counselor she was well aware that there's not any actual help available to those she was counseling! While I won't ever be able to even begin to understand her actions, and now unfortunately I can only speculate, that I may possibly know all too well, her pain!😢😭
I'm in shock!!!!! She was my counselor, she was softly spoken and was genuinely helpful. She had a beautiful spirit. I can't believe that she did this, could she have faked her death? Or was she depressed herself? Either way she was a beautiful person. May she and her children RIP 😭😭😭😭
@@user-or7jt8mg3yif you’re there, you will see them. Why would you have to be educated about it, and how are they expected to educated every single person
@@user-or7jt8mg3y - It's better to let people know now than never. I was saying in another comment that parents have to know that they can drop off kids at police and fire stations, hospitals, churches, etc. We need to encourage this TO SAVE KIDS. There should also be a provision for the parent to possibly get the children back if they solve the mental, physical and financial problems that took them to that choice of dropping off their kids. We need a community to help people parent in this unforgiving world.
@radiocontrolled9181 : In 2024, what you texted totally makes absolutely no sense at all. If a woman with a child chooses to move on with her life after the death of a husband or a failed prior relationship, and finds the right partner that's lives her and her child and decides to marry him and have a child with, can be successful and it's non of your Fu-king business, people like you are probably part of the reason she felt she had no way out. Your thinking pattern makes me sick. The boy was 9 and he still followed her with no resistance? Something was and is definitely wrong. Wake the F up!
Her wording was correct. Somehow she got over the gate with the two kids. The baby would have been no problem but the 9 yr old would certainly have fought her if it wasn’t drugged. We just celebrated my nephew’s daughter’s 9th birthday and she would have fought like a demon to not be drug across the fence. She would have known her mom was doing something wrong and would have run away from her. So tragic.
Sadly they will not find her or the children right at the Falls area , but further down the river. ALL the authorities know this fact. I'm so sorry for the loss of their lives.
@@don2deliver The massive water pressure going over the Falls does push anything down and just the turmoil of the waters below aids that effect. Usually bodies are not found until they reach the Gorge much further down river OR in five days or more. Such a tragic loss of their lives..
For all you know though, she might have thought she was saving them from a nightmare future. She may have been suffering from post partum depression/psychosis or mental illness from another cause. She shouldn’t have done that to her children, but perhaps she didn’t want them to suffer whatever is going wrong in this world. Or maybe she thinks they’ll all be happy together in heaven. Maybe someone was threatening them? We have no idea why this made sense to her at the time.
@@allisonjames2923 Yet none of that matters. If she would have lived, and the kids died, she would have been charged with murdering them. She killed her kids and you're making long winded excuses for her.
@@MuffinCHeeler “excuses” can help explain why something happens. Trying to understand it doesn’t mean the person wouldn’t be charged or convicted of a crime ffs. Oh, but many people have been found not criminally responsible for crimes based on psychosis or other factors
I have been living in western NY my whole life, been to the falls many times and never knew those blue phones existed! Wow! Thanks for that info. This is such a tragedy.
One has to wonder if this was the result of postpartum depression (PPD). Less time needs to be spent on abortion issues and more time needs to be spent on women’s health issues (including birth control and mental health issues).
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OR, like Susan Smith, didn't want her kids anymore because of a boyfriend she may have had, saying he didn't want to be involved with her as long as she had kids. NOTHING shocks me anymore. She drowned her two boys while they were still in the back seat, still in their car seats.
@@notimpossible4294 I think there is a disconnect in your logic.. I don’t think she was comparing the situation. I think she was just saying nothing surprises her anymore. If you actually read it instead of being rude… and abortions are the best thing that happened to this country. Thank you very much…
I work here as a tour guide and the first this I’ll tell all of you is it’s very easy to go over ANY railing at the Niagara Falls State Park where the 3 waterfalls are. They went to the USA side (borders Canada) on Luna Island with access to the American Falls and Bridal Veil Falls - this entire place is not kid-proofed on purpose- it’s like an unspoken agreement when you enter the park: “we’ll put up railings to prevents falls or accidents but we expect you to watch your kids and not intentionally, easily climb over these 3’, 4’ rails.” We want everyone to see unobstructed views- evens the little ones- so railings are everywhere- but to people-proof the area, it would obscure the view and shorter people would need assistance. Being a natural wonder, it should be accessible to all - but enter at your own risk. It’s perfectly safe and has been for decades - but if someone has the mind to climb over something, that’s when the trouble happens. We can’t prevent that.
Exactly. Was just there yesterday 11/3 with my four year old and family. There is certainly a terror and awe that comes with being in such an incredibly powerful space but ultimately a bridge or traffic is just at dangerous for those who want it to be. Also who knows maybe she was trying to wrangle the 9 year old back and they lost footing... Regardless it's tragic and a solemn reminder. May they all rest in peace ♥️
@@chelseasmith4753 It's much more likely that it was deliberate - she was suffering from PPD, and it sounds like it'd developed into Post Partum Psychosis. :(
@ @ we aren’t going to change everything due to the actions of a few. A kid couldn’t fall in unless his parents really let them climb rails or completely ignore them- they are there at their own risk. Accidents are rare. We expect visitors to follow the rules and not do stupid things, it’s a State Park. The glass, It’d be cool in concept but we’ve spent so much already making what we have better, it’d be just unpractical. This is a natural wonder of the world- it can’t be kid-proofed.
@@adriennebraxton-oq9iu I assume you don't cross the street without looking both ways? We can't baby proof the whole world which is what it sounds like you're suggesting. Common sense, the will to live, the will to let live, and strong reasonable safety measures that we all take are the best you can hope for anywhere on the planet.
If she was mentally ill or depressed (postpartum depression?) it is not SELFISH. Depression/mental illness clouds EVERYTHING! It makes you forget about everything else. Takes away common sense, I can't explain it but it's real. Please Google it.
THOSE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN, ONE ONLY A BABY, DID N.O.T INTENTIONALLY GO OVER THOSE RAILINGS AT THAT HEIGHT OF THEIR OWN ACCORD, THERE MUST’VE BEEN SO MUCH TERROR IN THEIR LITTLE HEARTS. IT’S HEARTBREAKING TO THINK OF. I ‘M NOT JUDGING AT ALL, BUT THERE WOULD’VE BEEN FAMILY WHO WOULD HAVE LOVED TO TAKE THOSE KIDS, THEY DIDN’T NEED TO LOSE THEIR LIVES. 🙏🏼
5:01 I somehow don't think the 9 year old and 5 month old baby went over intentionally, she wanted to end her life, but why take the two wee children with you
I’m a mother too and I don’t “get it.” I never thought about killing my kids in postpartum. We don’t even know what she had. Did Susan smith have postpartum too? Some people are just sick.
In the depths of depression the world is scary and painful. You take your children with you in the delusion that they will be harmed and much worse if you leave them. As awful as it seems I believe a lot of the time it’s love.
I was speechless when I heard this. Oh my god. That poor woman and those poor kids. I can't imagine what she thought as she was plummeting into the falls with her children under her arms. That's a whole family wiped out. If it was found that she was suffering with postpartum depression something has to be done about it NOW!! How many more new mothers are we going to lose?
It’s extremely disturbing to know that that 9 year old would have been horrified and probably screaming/crying/trying to get away for the entire time.. I’m sorry, I understand what postpartum depression is and why it happens… but nothing can make me sympathize with someone who murdered their children
There is no help unfortunately for mental health someone's making money off mental health but what help is there truly? Everyone always works against mothers and people are suffering these poor children and mother:(
She likely had _post-partum _*_depression_* and or *_-psychosis._* If only other family member(s) were aware of and attuned to her _symptoms,_ so they could intervene. Why wouldn't the father of the 5-month-old notice anything different about her?
Mother intentionally went over Niagra Falls with her two children. The way you worded it made it sound like the children intentionally jumped into the falls. The only one who intentionally went over the falls was the mother. The kids were forced.
The currents are rolling at the bottom each falls set. Bodies roll and roll in thodpse deep cycles. Some times a lighter body will be shot upwards. My former fiance was the editor of the Canadian NFalls newspaper. So many jump many not recovered, or turn up down river in the whirlpool falls eventually.
Horrible. May the two little lost souls be protected in Heaven. I wish the mother had not done this to her children. Whatever she was going through must have been very bad.
I experienced this with a friend over 30 years ago. We were lucky to get his body back. Police told us it happens more than publicized because they don't want copy cats.
I've heard that this happens regularly on the Cdn side. People lose big at the casino then go directly to the Falls and jump. Never in the papers here either.
This might sound like a dumb question, but could there be any possibility that they might survived? I know there is at least one recorded instance where a person went over the falls without a barrel or any other contraption, and still survived...
3 did NOT intentionally go over the falls.... The Mother intended to do so... and Took the kids against their will, especially 9 yr old, 5 month old, wasn't able to say anything... why ... just why?
Because to do something like that you're not in your right mind. As many others have commented, this poor woman may well have had post partum psychosis
I met a few single parents recently, 2 woman and a man. They were suffering with bills, no food enough for all of them, working and trying to keep their homes. We have to reverse the tax cuts and support those who actually need help. We are So very wealthy. No parent should have to be desperate to feed their children so someone can own multiple houses, multiple custom cars, multiple yachts. It’s easy to say seek out help, but is there really a county that will do anything but take away the children and possibly put the parent in jail. When people can earn fair wages and/or get enough assistance to get off their feet, 90% of them will heal, get steady, and move on. So horrible. Please support children and their parents when they are in need.
It’s not tax cuts that are keeping people poor. Your government keeps printing money so it’s worth less. Yes we should put families first, but it’s not rich people who are putting them in dire straits.
You want to commit suicide please leave your children out of it. You won't be with them in a 'better' life, you are robbing them of life. You are so miserable and downtrodden and depressed and yet you can't seek help? You are suffering with post-partum psychosis and you can't tell someone? Please get help, or leave the children in a safe place. Heartbreaking. Horrible. So very sad.
When mental health issues to that point involved children a red telephone is not helping, a different way is needed to explore this kind of issue, R.I.P
I think in California they high high fences to prevent this sort of tragedy. Especially for people trying to jump in front of trains. Same thing here in Niagra. Should not even be possible.
Geezus. Our society needs to help parents understand that there is NOTHING WRONG WITH GIVING YOUR KIDS TO A POLICE OFFICER, A PARAMEDIC, A FIRE HALL, A CHURCH OR A HOSPITAL OR EVEN THE POST OFFICE. I believe distraught parents should be able to drop off their children at any government or public institution or organization. They can ask for mental health support or not. But PLEASE DON'T HURT KIDS! It's not their fault! Give them a chance to live, even if you don't want to.
Desperate people do desperate things. We need to look out for the desperate and lift them any way or amount that we can. May the family help shed light and understanding so that we all can learn how to be vigilant to our brothers and sisters.
This is the most horrific thing I could imagine. The innocence of those precious children and the trust they had in their mother. 💔 May they all R.I.P. Condolences and prayers to their families🙏
My gosh...over the falls on the New York side.I have been on that island...she jumped in the river to be sent over the falls...with her kids?...How terribly tragic...just horrifying....I pray for the father and the families to find peace in such a terrible tragedy.I pray it never happens again also..
Why didn’t someone try to stop her if they witnessed her climbing upon the railings? They could have encouraged her to give up the children. People within our society have become so cold, uncaring, and callous. I’ll guarantee someone witnessed this, and filmed it, instead of trying to help. My prayers are with her family. 🕊
I think they should say that 1 intentionally & 2 unintentionally. The kids are too little to be labeled as if they intentionally threw themsrlves. They were probably coerced by their mother.
When I was 6 years old my friend from a few doors down was unalived by her mother in a murder-suicide. Being that young I couldn't process what had occurred and it gave me PTSD. It took me 55 years to work out what was wrong with me and get some help.
My daughter took her life 2 yrs ago. I am still shattered but, she did not choose to live pleasing God and got with a dangerous man and it became a tragedy
I could only imagine how terrified the 9 year old must've been realising what was happening. May their Souls Rest In Peace.
No souls. Just corpses.
Those babies are with the Lord in heaven.
@@Eli-ts3ph But she isn't!
Don't come on here with disrespect. @@tonyrivers8688
Definitely @@Eli-ts3ph
If you're going to self delete, dont drag your kids along.
It's common with Mother's. Not sure why.
@@jjmcwill1881 Depressed mothers mistakenly assume that nobody else can protect their children somehow and the children are in danger...
It's little too late😢😢🤷🏾
These women are always convinced they're saving their kids...or saving the possibility that anyone would ever tell the truth in her absence. Shame is an incredible motivator.
@@sneakyviewing4391or she thought she was protecting them?
Let your kids live!!! Give them to a family member, friend or neighbor!!! PLEASE!!!
Post your address and number for drop offs! No Help and Mom felt HOPELESS! Many are struggling and others are not able to help. Not easy unless you and others pick up the slack.
especially when the dads would have raised them
I don't blame the mom ... let you kids LIVE!
... to a family member ... friend ... neighbor ? ...
... and these kids will more likely be abused (physically, mentally, sexually)
May they all Rest In Peace.
@@zoe6723Yeah, did they tell you that personally
@zoe6723 where did you get your info on Dad?
That’s so sad. Children are the most innocent and precious beings in this world. We owe it to them to keep them safe. 🙏🏻
Well we are certainly failing that goalpost.
You can’t just value fetuses and children if you want bc a better world. That’s what leads to such tragedies.
@nettewilson5926 They don't value fetuses anymore than they value how Mary was treated.
@@susanhiggs6873well said. Even tho mary was a cheating ho.
Most of all, babies and children are defenseless. 😢😢
The children didn't intentionally do anything. So sad.
Thank you. The children are NOT at fault. The headline is ridiculous.
@@ELEMENTARYWATSON52 This is the only acceptable headline, otherwise some would blame the mother.
@@captaincrunch8333well yeah it was her choice not theirs
whats odd is the police officer said they didn't see any red flags or indicators. I bet she was a single mom, which is a huge red flag!
Yeah, I don't like the way they worded that. Those children are murder victims.
The two children did not intentionally go over the falls
Hey, you're pretty sharp.
@The_DC_Kid another Oppositional-Defiant commenting on anything and everything. No other life.
You’re right. Fortunately I doubt adult will actually think that is the case. But I understand your need to correct the title. Many times titles are misleading or just wrong.
You beat me to it. At least the 5 month old wasn't aware of what was going on.
Like all those kids the lesbians drove off the cliff in California
What a terrifying way to go! That poor nine year old . . . 😔
Dude sad for both them.
@shaneross1217 true but the 9 year knew what was happening how terrified the 9 year old must of been
@ did he know what was going on did he truly it said they were pushed over the railing so this means he was probably just looking at the falls thinking he was on a family trip were did it state that the 9 year old knew his mom was going to do this? Also true the 9 year olds death is terrible and he was probably terrified when he fell but don’t forget the 5 month old just because he’s a baby don’t act like he wasn’t terrified.ill pray they find them.
@@shaneross1217 English is not your first language I imagine. Not being funny, it's the way you respond
@@Martin199320 Honestly. Even if English isn’t their first language, what a dense response.
Extremely sad for the two children.
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And the mother
@@nettewilson5926 she was a coward
@ I dunno that took balls. But she should have at least drugged the children if she thought they needed to go with her. Maybe she did.
@@susanpennington3920she could’ve been experiencing post partum depression or worse.
@@nettewilson5926evil mother
I think back to when I was a fourth grader and how everything was an adventure, safe, and enjoyable. This poor kid must have been terrified out of his mind. God keep him.
America's good times ended right around the time that Fox News got big. Who could have imagined that turning half the voting public into rage-addled morons could have such negative outcomes?!?
unless they had no clue about the danger
@@peachygal4153 Of course they'll know what is happening. 😑
@@peachygal4153Who knows , as she was obviously insane .
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I have a 10yr old and I CAN NOT IMAGINE what that child was feeling 💔💔💔💔
I know. My oldest granddaughter is 9 and I just don’t want to think of how terrified this little girl would have been. We desperately need more services for people hurting from depression and other mental health problems. So many people feel totally alone.
Can't even begin to even try to comprehend this.
No words!
So sad!
Post partum depression may be a factor here since her infant is only five months old. Condolences to the families.
Post partum combined with MAGA toxicity. Lethal combination.
@@LuvtahoeYou are something else!!! 🤬 Talk about toxicity. It appears you spread toxicity and your hate speech everywhere . Something is wrong with you. 🐑
@ Ha! You may want to wake up. 👍
@@Luvtahoe Stop getting your “news” from regime run media and you could find yourself learning some TRUTH!!! Look up Pelosi’s video on “smearing” and “wrap up smears”. Apply that to a lot of the sh*t you hear from your regime run media. 🤯
@@LuvtahoeI doubt mega has anything to do it if anything the current government is making it very difficult to survive! May those children rest in peace!
May those poor children R.I.P. 😥🇨🇦
💔 Oh! God love her and her family.
And the mother too. What she did was wrong and so unfair, but obviously she had serious mental health problems.
Amen
@@synnove1046 REGARDLESS Jesus told Nicodemus You must be born again to enter heaven, the children, yes are in heaven.
If mom was saved spiritually but it doesn't sound like she valued what God blessed her with.
Check on the new moms you know, especially if they’re doing it without much support. Postpartum psychosis and depression are very real. Not saying this is what caused this tragedy, but please check on new moms.
Yes!
Post partum depression also seems to be getting worse with each generation. I'd like to know why? Are there any common denominators in each case? I hope these cases are looked into deeper and compared.
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@@jackiemcdonell1737it’s multifaceted but I think it’s the fact that as women (collectively) we are expected to carry more of a load. Work full time, raise kids and all the while support systems have diminished significantly. The internet has also created a false sense of reality where as moms we often feel like we aren’t doing enough or what we’re doing isn’t meaningful. It’s so easy to compare to someone online but we only see the positive, note worthy, curated stuff. Also for many women they wind up being single parents which is a whole stressor itself. Economic concerns compile and stress becomes unmanageable for many women.
So sick of these parents killing their kids!
Social media is poison and I bet she was on some type of prescribed psychotics
In Gaza it's the idf thanks to American taxpayers money 😒
I've been to Niagra Falls and I get chills just remembering the power of that water. I can't imagine........😢
Isn't the power something you can't describe to others just so hard. I stood upriver and the speed of the water was incredible and I tell people who haven't been there and they don't seem to understand it. Like people the power and speed is unlike anything I've seen and they just say "oh I know" and I'm like "NO. . .YOU DO NOT KNOW obviously cause you wouldn't say it like that." One question I have is how has whatever feeds the falls...how has it not ran out of water? The falls runs ALL DAY everyday, all year and whatever feeds it never runs out. How? I have looked at the source but I swear something else feeds it. It's just so powerful it should have drained an ocean already. Lol. It's crazy.
60 years ago, when i was a kid, children would end up in a children's home if their parents were divorcing. There were 3 sisters who were in that situation, and the father came to take them out for the day. He took them to the notorious cliffs called The Gap in Sydney, New South Wales.
When school resumed, we'd learned that the father pushed his eldest (my friend) over the edge, grabbed the two youngest, and jumped. It was the first time I'd experienced such senseless loss. Becoming a nurse, then a first responder, left me with no surprises, sadly.
☹️ sick...
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💔those poor children - and how harrowing that must have been for you! One can only guess at the confused level of love and despair that leads a parent to take such a step.💔🙏
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so sorry to hear that happened to those children. It's affected you all these years. At age 11 we were driving to church one Sunday morning. Along the country road of corn fields I saw one of my buddies from church standing on a small hill by the road. My parents didn't see him and drove by. At church his parents said he was missing for 2 days. I told them I saw him coming to church that morning but my parents didn't stop for him. his parents followed us back home and I saw him again but no one else did. We stopped and I ran up to my friend, he didn't speak to me. In the weeds before where I saw him my father found his body and his motorcycle he had just purchased against his parents wishes. I saw his soul standing over his body. That has stayed with me all these years. No one could see his body from the road due to the weeds, but his spirit was standing over where he died.
The children had NO INTENTION of going over. That was murder.
You have no idea what the truth is, so stop making things up. That's just cruel! Opinions don't matter situations like this. The truth does, and we're not gonna find The Truth. As long as people said on social media making up their own stories. Because it's what works for them!
@@0908jjYou are delusional. That was a horrible crime against those children. She m*****d them. Period! Now she must answer to the most high God!
@@0908jj It was murder by her or someone else.
Maybe she is going thru postmortem depression
@@TheDrewflex postpartum psychosis, possibly.
A few years ago, one of my sister's neighbors drowned her 2 young children (one was just a babe) and then walked into a river. She suffered post-partum depression. No one realized it was so bad. So very sad and tragic.
That's pure evil. And what a cruel way to do it
That is so sad. I always say you don’t know a person’s mental health.
@@kierancaldwell3442 as they say, but for the Grace of God, go I. When you've walked in those shoes, then come back and discuss.
Post partum PSYCHOSIS is usually why moms do this stuff 💔💔💔
@NotMee45 no, evil is why some mom's kill kids. It's not an excuse
Mother murdered her two children….say it like it is….
Exactly.
just like abortion eh..murder by mom
Did she and her heirs die?
@@xenophagiayou dont know what happened?
Stop saying intentionally the mother maybe but those kids didn’t want to die
You missed the point entirely LOL.
I thought the exact same thing. How sad for the children.
@@lindabradford9591 So did I
The mother INTENTIONALLY took herself and her two kids over the falls, to their death. Happy now?
Yea I felt it was definitely worded poorly.. they could have said it differently addressing the children separately.
Post partum psychosis is Brutal.
I had it but I got help.
My Dr. thanked me for getting help immediately.
Blessings to you and your family!!
stop making excuses. wahhh i had a baby and i can no logner control myself. give me a break. women need to get tougher and or a clue. she walked over a guard rail and into one of the most brutal waterfalls in the world. that's not an impulse driven by body chemistry. it's premeditated and deliberate.
@@Peter-zg3emwait, they weren't defending or excusing the murder.
How@@Peter-zg3emhow horribly ignorant you are!
@@Peter-zg3emMy sister had postpartum phychsis. Let me tell you, you have no idea. Not a clue...
I live on the Canadian side. It's too bad that no one was able to see what she was about to do and could've interceded. How awful for that to have happened...
Awful aye
I think she was murdered
A lot of people secretly have murdered on Halloween day
The fake news media cover this false but sotonist represent that us an gift to the devil
Its pitch black out at 9 pm now. Was this planned or why would someone go to the falls at 9 pm? More to the story I think. God Bless the little children. Tragic.
@@dubsounds That's EH not aye
@dubsounds been in Ontario my whole life, and we don't use that EH. Cute though.
Omg those poor babies 😢💔
Please don't use God's name in vain.
@@PunkDogCreationsthe gods don't care
Mental health is the worst here in America
Drugs, alcohol, broken families.
There is no shame in asking for help, in fact it shows strength. We all want to help our friends and neighbors;especially a new mom. Heartbreaking
Is that true or just your opinion? I watch a TH-camr in Russia and it's terrible. Probably the same in a lot of places like Cuba, n. Korea, China.. etc
Social engineering has led to families being forced to move farther from their home towns. The safety net has been eroded. Family doctors just don’t care.
@@valeriemoran842 You can ask for help but it doesn't mean help exists. I asked for help. Got blamed instead. I would never have hurt my children, though, and I would never have hurt myself because that would harm them (edited to add: but I didn't have post partum psychosis)
She was a domestic violence counselor, her family & friends said that she was always in good spirits and there wasn't a human alive that she wouldn't help. You never know what people are going through......
Wow. After murdering her own children, it's like she had a morbid fascination with DV, isn't it?
Considering her baby is only 5 months old, I have a feeling PP psychosis was involved. These types of murd3r sewercides always hit hard 😢 The terror her 9 year old must have felt is unimaginable. And what the mother did was unforgivable, but at the same time I have sympathy for her if it was infact post partum psychosis. To have your mind betray you to the point of thinking this was the only option is tragic.
Being a domestic violence counselor she was well aware that there's not any actual help available to those she was counseling! While I won't ever be able to even begin to understand her actions, and now unfortunately I can only speculate, that I may possibly know all too well, her pain!😢😭
I'm in shock!!!!! She was my counselor, she was softly spoken and was genuinely helpful. She had a beautiful spirit. I can't believe that she did this, could she have faked her death? Or was she depressed herself? Either way she was a beautiful person. May she and her children RIP 😭😭😭😭
@esmintexas speaking about her character, not her actions. go get a brain!
So sad,so very sad.Condolences to remaining family
My heart & prayers go out to the families of this lil family. How heartbreaking.
prayers do nothing
@kotexconnection3804 With that kinda behavior it won't. Now pls keep your negative comments to yourself. I'll pray for you. Have a blessed 1.
@@kimberlyreed461❤ Keyboard warriors are cowards. Thank you.
@tanganyikarichardson5588 I agree. I can't stand rude ppl.
I am so so sad about this. So incredibly tragic.
Suicide prevention phones at a national site. Wow. Never heard of that before.
lol now they broadcast it lol these people that have a job to do don’t do it good at alll!!! All my life I never known about this red phone lol 🤦🏼♀️
@@user-or7jt8mg3y Shhhhhh its a secret! We need to educate the masses. Very tragic story.
@@user-or7jt8mg3yif you’re there, you will see them. Why would you have to be educated about it, and how are they expected to educated every single person
That's pretty pathetic that there's phones for this everywhere
@@user-or7jt8mg3y - It's better to let people know now than never. I was saying in another comment that parents have to know that they can drop off kids at police and fire stations, hospitals, churches, etc. We need to encourage this TO SAVE KIDS. There should also be a provision for the parent to possibly get the children back if they solve the mental, physical and financial problems that took them to that choice of dropping off their kids. We need a community to help people parent in this unforgiving world.
How incredibly sad.
your title is wrong children didnt go intentionally she is killr
@QueenB-w4dEXCUSE ME!? She murdered her children and you expect us to understand her? Yeah I understand perfectly, she’s a killer! Period!
Well you know she was black so they watch there words 🤦
@QueenB-w4d well said. I stand corrected. Love Should be our First Response thanks for your very well stated, Reminder 💗🙏🕊🕊🕊
And you could get classy to start with@@radiocontrolled9181
@radiocontrolled9181 : In 2024, what you texted totally makes absolutely no sense at all. If a woman with a child chooses to move on with her life after the death of a husband or a failed prior relationship, and finds the right partner that's lives her and her child and decides to marry him and have a child with, can be successful and it's non of your Fu-king business, people like you are probably part of the reason she felt she had no way out. Your thinking pattern makes me sick. The boy was 9 and he still followed her with no resistance? Something was and is definitely wrong. Wake the F up!
No words to say here. Just sorrow for the remaining family members.
No, tne two children did not intentionally go over the falls, their mother killed them!
I'm pretty sure the 5 month old & 9 year old didn't go over the rail intentionally, maybe work on your wording!
Her wording was correct. Somehow she got over the gate with the two kids. The baby would have been no problem but the 9 yr old would certainly have fought her if it wasn’t drugged. We just celebrated my nephew’s daughter’s 9th birthday and she would have fought like a demon to not be drug across the fence. She would have known her mom was doing something wrong and would have run away from her. So tragic.
@@ireneantonik8937 you just explained exactly why it's *_not_* correct.
That postpartum depression ain't no joke. 😢
No it’s not . I had it with my son .
She knew kamal was going to lose.
@@Dane-o7q people died get a fucking grip. politics dont need to be brought up every second of ur life u miserable excuse for a life
We need more education on this subject.
@@Dane-o7q What a dumb thing to say.
no ONE intentionally went over the falls . 2 were murdered
One did.
True
She was lied to and coaxed. No one wants to die,they want the pain to stop.
@@AlbertHess-xy7kythat's what they meant, they just didn't punctuate properly
Sadly they will not find her or the children right at the Falls area , but further down the river. ALL the authorities know this fact.
I'm so sorry for the loss of their lives.
They could be stuck at the base of the falls and there is lots of debris there on the American side.
@@don2deliver The massive water pressure going over the Falls does push anything down and just the turmoil of the waters below aids that effect. Usually bodies are not found until they reach the Gorge much further down river OR in five days or more. Such a tragic loss of their lives..
How does anyone get over the gate with 2 children??
She murdered her 2 kids.... lets get that straight now.
For all you know though, she might have thought she was saving them from a nightmare future. She may have been suffering from post partum depression/psychosis or mental illness from another cause. She shouldn’t have done that to her children, but perhaps she didn’t want them to suffer whatever is going wrong in this world. Or maybe she thinks they’ll all be happy together in heaven. Maybe someone was threatening them? We have no idea why this made sense to her at the time.
@@allisonjames2923 Yet none of that matters. If she would have lived, and the kids died, she would have been charged with murdering them. She killed her kids and you're making long winded excuses for her.
Your name says it all evil
@@MuffinCHeeler “excuses” can help explain why something happens. Trying to understand it doesn’t mean the person wouldn’t be charged or convicted of a crime ffs. Oh, but many people have been found not criminally responsible for crimes based on psychosis or other factors
I have been living in western NY my whole life, been to the falls many times and never knew those blue phones existed! Wow! Thanks for that info.
This is such a tragedy.
Children! Oh, no! How terribly sad.
Sad, sad, sad, so sorry this happened.
This is tragic. That mother must have felt in total desperation to go that far. 😢
she should of let her kids with someone. This is awful! those poor children. She should of gotten help before this went this far!
One has to wonder if this was the result of postpartum depression (PPD). Less time needs to be spent on abortion issues and more time needs to be spent on women’s health issues (including birth control and mental health issues).
OR, like Susan Smith, didn't want her kids anymore because of a boyfriend she may have had, saying he didn't want to be involved with her as long as she had kids. NOTHING shocks me anymore. She drowned her two boys while they were still in the back seat, still in their car seats.
That is a misogynistic response. Susan Smith didn’t kill herself. I think there is a disconnect in your logic.
@@notimpossible4294 I think there is a disconnect in your logic.. I don’t think she was comparing the situation. I think she was just saying nothing surprises her anymore. If you actually read it instead of being rude… and abortions are the best thing that happened to this country. Thank you very much…
I work here as a tour guide and the first this I’ll tell all of you is it’s very easy to go over ANY railing at the Niagara Falls State Park where the 3 waterfalls are.
They went to the USA side (borders Canada) on Luna Island with access to the American Falls and Bridal Veil Falls - this entire place is not kid-proofed on purpose- it’s like an unspoken agreement when you enter the park: “we’ll put up railings to prevents falls or accidents but we expect you to watch your kids and not intentionally, easily climb over these 3’, 4’ rails.”
We want everyone to see unobstructed views- evens the little ones- so railings are everywhere- but to people-proof the area, it would obscure the view and shorter people would need assistance. Being a natural wonder, it should be accessible to all - but enter at your own risk.
It’s perfectly safe and has been for decades - but if someone has the mind to climb over something, that’s when the trouble happens. We can’t prevent that.
Exactly. Was just there yesterday 11/3 with my four year old and family. There is certainly a terror and awe that comes with being in such an incredibly powerful space but ultimately a bridge or traffic is just at dangerous for those who want it to be. Also who knows maybe she was trying to wrangle the 9 year old back and they lost footing... Regardless it's tragic and a solemn reminder. May they all rest in peace ♥️
@@chelseasmith4753 It's much more likely that it was deliberate - she was suffering from PPD, and it sounds like it'd developed into Post Partum Psychosis. :(
then MAYBE durable glass barrier all around, NO excuses!
@ @ we aren’t going to change everything due to the actions of a few. A kid couldn’t fall in unless his parents really let them climb rails or completely ignore them- they are there at their own risk. Accidents are rare. We expect visitors to follow the rules and not do stupid things, it’s a State Park. The glass, It’d be cool in concept but we’ve spent so much already making what we have better, it’d be just unpractical. This is a natural wonder of the world- it can’t be kid-proofed.
@@adriennebraxton-oq9iu I assume you don't cross the street without looking both ways? We can't baby proof the whole world which is what it sounds like you're suggesting. Common sense, the will to live, the will to let live, and strong reasonable safety measures that we all take are the best you can hope for anywhere on the planet.
Awful sad she took the child and baby with her!
yeah, they can't just do everyone a favor and leave their children out of it.
just like abortion eh...murder by mom
What a selfish person. Those poor kids.
If she was mentally ill or depressed (postpartum depression?) it is not SELFISH. Depression/mental illness clouds EVERYTHING! It makes you forget about everything else. Takes away common sense, I can't explain it but it's real. Please Google it.
Absolutely!
Ever heard of post partum psychosis? This woman was a domestic violence counselor
If you're going to end your own life well whatever, but how dare you also end the lives of your children?
What a ridiculous headline. It was intentional on the mother's part NOT the children's.
THOSE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN, ONE ONLY A BABY, DID N.O.T INTENTIONALLY GO OVER THOSE RAILINGS AT THAT HEIGHT OF THEIR OWN ACCORD, THERE MUST’VE BEEN SO MUCH TERROR IN THEIR LITTLE HEARTS. IT’S HEARTBREAKING TO THINK OF.
I ‘M NOT JUDGING AT ALL, BUT THERE WOULD’VE BEEN FAMILY WHO WOULD HAVE LOVED TO TAKE THOSE KIDS, THEY DIDN’T NEED TO LOSE THEIR LIVES. 🙏🏼
5:01 I somehow don't think the 9 year old and 5 month old baby went over intentionally, she wanted to end her life, but why take the two wee children with you
Everyone saying this is postpartum …. If it was this is horribly sad …. As a mother I get it… but either way, this WAS MURDER
I’m a mother too and I don’t “get it.” I never thought about killing my kids in postpartum. We don’t even know what she had. Did Susan smith have postpartum too? Some people are just sick.
So. What are you or anyone else going to do about it? Absolutely nothing!
@@FreethinkingPharoahyou don't say, chief. She wasn't claiming that she could change the past
That 5 month old didn’t “intentionally” go into the water
Taking kids with you when decided to take your life is demonic! The fear a child feels is heart wrenching
Exactly they are not in their right mind but under control of a wicked spirt
In the depths of depression the world is scary and painful. You take your children with you in the delusion that they will be harmed and much worse if you leave them. As awful as it seems I believe a lot of the time it’s love.
A women and two victims went over the falls.
I was speechless when I heard this. Oh my god. That poor woman and those poor kids. I can't imagine what she thought as she was plummeting into the falls with her children under her arms. That's a whole family wiped out. If it was found that she was suffering with postpartum depression something has to be done about it NOW!! How many more new mothers are we going to lose?
Good luck. It's 6+ month waiting list to see any sort of mental health professional.
so true
It’s extremely disturbing to know that that 9 year old would have been horrified and probably screaming/crying/trying to get away for the entire time.. I’m sorry, I understand what postpartum depression is and why it happens… but nothing can make me sympathize with someone who murdered their children
Absolutely nothing! Preach!@@PeripheralVvV
There is no help unfortunately for mental health someone's making money off mental health but what help is there truly? Everyone always works against mothers and people are suffering these poor children and mother:(
Sounds to me like post partum depression, so sad.
Either postpartum or couldn’t afford life because of the government
It could very well be. Vote blue so we can continue to help improve health care for women
I think so too. Maybe even post partum psychosis
@@ajdarko8531I agree. It could be psychosis.
Exactly right... Postpartum depression can last up to almost a year
Rest in peace! 😔💔🥺
Totally selfish to take your
kids with you. Leave them on the bank.
She likely had _post-partum _*_depression_* and or *_-psychosis._* If only other family member(s) were aware of and attuned to her _symptoms,_ so they could intervene. Why wouldn't the father of the 5-month-old notice anything different about her?
@@wholeshebang1 then what lock her up for 5 weeks and she self deletes anyway
Mother intentionally went over Niagra Falls with her two children. The way you worded it made it sound like the children intentionally jumped into the falls. The only one who intentionally went over the falls was the mother. The kids were forced.
Niagara
Sickening!
Hope they find them quickly sympathy to the family and loved ones. It is amazing that they do have help out there.
The currents are rolling at the bottom each falls set. Bodies roll and roll in thodpse deep cycles. Some times a lighter body will be shot upwards. My former fiance was the editor of the Canadian NFalls newspaper. So many jump many not recovered, or turn up down river in the whirlpool falls eventually.
Prayers for the family.
As if "praying" (i.e. thinking/speaking to _oneself)_ accomplishes anything for the person who's _wishing _*_without acting_*
I can't imagine this dreadful act. May God have mercy. 😢😢😢💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm so sorry for them all...
Horrible. May the two little lost souls be protected in Heaven. I wish the mother had not done this to her children. Whatever she was going through must have been very bad.
You mean like how your precious "god" protected them on Earth? So dumb.
@@CowboyPants-h5pthat wasn't his job, it was her job, another blame God expert?
@CarlHobson-zm2gk
Which god are we talking about specifically?
@@FreethinkingPharoah how about the only one who's ever shown up? You know, the only one you blame?
@@CarlHobson-zm2gk Which would be which one?
Bless them hope they find them to give family closure
Did you even pay attention to video they have been recovered
I'm sorry, but that caption needs to be changed. Only 1 went over intentionally. The 2 children were murdered by their mentally ill mother. 🥺
I experienced this with a friend over 30 years ago. We were lucky to get his body back. Police told us it happens more than publicized because they don't want copy cats.
I've heard that this happens regularly on the Cdn side. People lose big at the casino then go directly to the Falls and jump. Never in the papers here either.
This might sound like a dumb question, but could there be any possibility that they might survived? I know there is at least one recorded instance where a person went over the falls without a barrel or any other contraption, and still survived...
@@emmagatewood3898 has anybody survived going over in a barrel? I thought that was only on cartoons
@@tobyk5149 Yes! I remember hearing about a woman who did it in the early 1900's
@@emmagatewood3898 There are huge boulders at the base of the Falls. Surviving a fall would be nothing short of miraculous.
Call it what it was, a murder suicide. RIP to those poor babies.
3 did NOT intentionally go over the falls.... The Mother intended to do so... and Took the kids against their will, especially 9 yr old, 5 month old, wasn't able to say anything... why ... just why?
How horrific! The 9 year old must have been terrified. Why do parents take their children out with them. So many people would take them.
Because to do something like that you're not in your right mind. As many others have commented, this poor woman may well have had post partum psychosis
Wrong title… the kids didn’t intentionally do that. She killed them
Yeah, blatantly dishonest
Doubt the kids wanted to do that. Your headline is wrong."Mother intentionally went over Niagara Falls, with her 2, small children'.
I met a few single parents recently, 2 woman and a man. They were suffering with bills, no food enough for all of them, working and trying to keep their homes.
We have to reverse the tax cuts and support those who actually need help. We are So very wealthy. No parent should have to be desperate to feed their children so someone can own multiple houses, multiple custom cars, multiple yachts.
It’s easy to say seek out help, but is there really a county that will do anything but take away the children and possibly put the parent in jail.
When people can earn fair wages and/or get enough assistance to get off their feet, 90% of them will heal, get steady, and move on.
So horrible. Please support children and their parents when they are in need.
It’s not tax cuts that are keeping people poor. Your government keeps printing money so it’s worth less. Yes we should put families first, but it’s not rich people who are putting them in dire straits.
You want to commit suicide please leave your children out of it. You won't be with them in a 'better' life, you are robbing them of life. You are so miserable and downtrodden and depressed and yet you can't seek help? You are suffering with post-partum psychosis and you can't tell someone? Please get help, or leave the children in a safe place. Heartbreaking. Horrible. So very sad.
There is no help America doesn't give a shit this is why this stuff happens
When mental health issues to that point involved children a red telephone is not helping, a different way is needed to explore this kind of issue, R.I.P
"Police: Mother and two children intentionally went over Niagara Falls..." Thinking the kids did not go over the falls intentionally.
Never knew they had those blue hotline poles.....
I think in California they high high fences to prevent this sort of tragedy. Especially for people trying to jump in front of trains. Same thing here in Niagra. Should not even be possible.
And the people making derogatory remarks about the mother, you are truly pathetic 🙄
Geezus. Our society needs to help parents understand that there is NOTHING WRONG WITH GIVING YOUR KIDS TO A POLICE OFFICER, A PARAMEDIC, A FIRE HALL, A CHURCH OR A HOSPITAL OR EVEN THE POST OFFICE. I believe distraught parents should be able to drop off their children at any government or public institution or organization. They can ask for mental health support or not. But PLEASE DON'T HURT KIDS! It's not their fault! Give them a chance to live, even if you don't want to.
Oh my god!! How absolutely heartbreaking. How could someone feel this desperate for themselves and their children?? Prayers for them.
Desperate people do desperate things. We need to look out for the desperate and lift them any way or amount that we can. May the family help shed light and understanding so that we all can learn how to be vigilant to our brothers and sisters.
This is the most horrific thing I could imagine. The innocence of those precious children and the trust they had in their mother. 💔 May they all R.I.P. Condolences and prayers to their families🙏
My gosh...over the falls on the New York side.I have been on that island...she jumped in the river to be sent over the falls...with her kids?...How terribly tragic...just horrifying....I pray for the father and the families to find peace in such a terrible tragedy.I pray it never happens again also..
There are too many people in the comments attempting to somehow tie this to the election 🤦🏼♀️
So sad that this mother felt she had no recourse to help in a desperate moment or friends who might have been able to signal her desperation.
What’s wrong with people, you want to die fine but she had no right to end her children’s lives. 😢
💔Blessings...
Why didn’t someone try to stop her if they witnessed her climbing upon the railings? They could have encouraged her to give up the children. People within our society have become so cold, uncaring, and callous. I’ll guarantee someone witnessed this, and filmed it, instead of trying to help.
My prayers are with her family. 🕊
100%
@IMTRUTH
No, it's not! Captain hindsight are ridiculous on youtube! Waaaay after the facts!
It sounds like she went at night which is when most national parks are closed. I actually doubt there was anyone there
Heart Breaking
I looked up the woman's profile on a popular networking platform. She got her degree in 2020 in Social Services. This is soooo tragic !!!!
I think they should say that 1 intentionally & 2 unintentionally. The kids are too little to be labeled as if they intentionally threw themsrlves. They were probably coerced by their mother.
Red flag she just had a baby and was depressed, postpartum depression, baby blues ..
aka "Women are lunatics"
My heart aches for the 9 and 5 month old. 😢 I hope they recover their bodies 😢😮
When I was 6 years old my friend from a few doors down was unalived by her mother in a murder-suicide. Being that young I couldn't process what had occurred and it gave me PTSD. It took me 55 years to work out what was wrong with me and get some help.
I’m so sorry. But glad you got help.
My daughter took her life 2 yrs ago. I am still shattered but, she did not choose to live pleasing God and got with a dangerous man and it became a tragedy
🙏🏾❤🙏🏾
I’m disgusted by people who take their kids out when they kill themselves.
What a precise, symbolic statement of how sick our human society has become.