I find it kind of hilarious that the black student gets approached by missionaries so much. Every Mormon I've known was a lovely person, but you can tell that there's a pretty serious savior complex that underlies the missionary work.
I think missionarys would go to anyone they feel would be interested doesn't matter color or area you live.. also missionarys are just trying there best and to be fair some of my friends are actually friends with missionarys and feed them and care for them while there in certain areas and there not even members.. there someone's son just be nice to them as they are nice to everyone around them
When I was a teenager, I was considering going to Snow College (BYU Jr.) and did a weekend excursion on campus. A girl asked if I was Mormon and I said no. She then asked me if I smoked pot. Needless to say, I left that weekend never to return.
Have you read Educated, or did you watch any TellTale videos, or have you been looking at school rankings and for a very brief moment considered converting for cheap tuition?
Come to BYU, you'll meet a bunch of us! Haha, in all seriousness though, it's cool that we can learn so much about other religions and cultures, even if we aren't physically close to any of them!
I'll never convert to Mormonism, but Provo looks to be one of the most beautiful places on earth. And every Mormon I've met was very friendly and sincere.
The mountains are pristine out of necessity for watershed. The lake is incredibly polluted as is the air oftentimes. I could go on for hours about Mormon stewardship of the natural world but the real downside of Mormonism is the people believe that they are going to heaven and non-believers are not. That makes them incredibly obnoxious to be around in the long run. They make you choose being either for or against them so it was a very hard to make a decision so radical that it makes me prejudiced against an entire group of people but I don’t want them anywhere near me.
@@kaijessen3654 I also have heard about the rules they have. Not drinking is good and okay, but I heard they used to not be allowed to drink soda which is ridiculous.
@@dilby3246 Some people invented the idea that members of the church shouldn't drink caffeine, but it was never a rule for the church as a whole. BYU at one point didn't have caffeinated drinks on campus (which meant caffeine free coke), though you could always walk to a store or gas station across the street and get a red bull and drink it on campus. The weird things people do and say...
@@kaijessen3654 I would have to say that this belief isn't actually true. I am a member myself, and we don't believe that you won't go to heaven if you dont believe in church. As for the choosing to be with us or against us attitude, I cant speak for everyone, because everyone is different, but in general we do not or should not have that attitude and I apologize if you have had a negative experience with members.
I went on a date with a Mormon girl in the 80s. My parting gift at the end of the date? A Book of Mormon... Even better, I was pulled over by a cop driving home from the date, and he was really hassling me. Shining a flashlight in my face, and then into the car. It stopped abruptly when it landed on the Book of Mormon lying on the passenger seat, and his attitude immediately changed. He lightly scolded me for my expired registration, and sent me on my way... I kept that Book of Mormon in my glove box for years!
This was so cool to watch because I'm not even Mormon, but I thought BYU was only for LDS members! Super cool that they're open to having non members attend!
It’s so weird! It took 7 years to get the first 100,000 views, and the last 200,000 have been in the last two months! I’m not recruiting for Mormons (actually not recruiting at all); the video is just taking off!
As a non-Mormon, I would like to give thanks to the LDS for their work in collecting, transcribing, and indexing genealogical records and making them readily available. I understand BYU students do a lot of the actual labor.
Being black is probably more difficult than being non-Mormon. Seems like everyone assumes the white girl is Mormon, and they assume the black girl isn’t
It says that there are some really fucked up Mormons not all, not most, but defiantly more than a few but to say that that's how all Mormons are would be false
Mormons aren't used to Black people. They aren't overtly racist against them, but there are so few black people in Utah and the black culture is so distant from white Mormon culture that they see black people as outsiders, "urban people," who they should invite into the light
Reminder to the group: I appreciate all who have taken the time to watch my video. It was made as a communications class project. Comments are welcome, but please keep them respectful, constructive, and on topic. This is not designed to be an outlet for ranting or anti-Mormon preaching, debate, or hateful speech in general. If you make an out of line comment, I will remove it. Thank you.
Andrew Klay I was wondering why I didn’t see all the anti-Mormon’s here calling us devils 😂. Thanks, it’s nice to not read stuff that makes me sad or my blood boil.
Chris Little it’s all between you and God dude. But I’ll tell you if you really really want to know, prayer really does work but you have to show God that you’re serious about getting an answer. I thought they were crazy with ridiculous fairytale stories when they visited me and that went on for a long time, then one day I really put it to the test and prayed about it and found that it was true. The cool thing is is whether you join the church again or not you can be friends with some really nice people from the church 😉. Best wishes
I used to live there and was always surrounded by Mormons some were nice and pleasant but most thought you were beneath them if you weren’t Mormon. They also portray a sorta “fake nice” where it’s all smiles but secretly judge you. I would say at least over 50 percent come off as perfect Mormons but then are drinking and partying on the weekends in salt lake then back to church on Sunday. Also forget about going to BYU if you are lgbt because if they see you or hear about you having relations with the same sex you will be kicked out. Oh and also not much diversity either with about 85-90% white.
I might be wrong, but actually I think they recently updated school polices and such so they can't kick someone out for being lgbtq+ as long as they follow the honor code that every student has to follow. Even this past year as a student myself I saw a lot of support and activities for lgbtq+ students ranging from things as simple as a rainbow flag hanging in a window, to a rainbow day celebration on campus, to the Y on the mountain getting lit up as a rainbow
@@reaganorton1710 That's what you don't understand about BYU. It's not a state school. It's accepting students from all over the US and the world. So BYU really should not have any difficulty in recruiting students of diverse backgrounds. Yet, BYU is so white. It just shows you that nonwhites really do not find Mormonism appealing at all. Why? Study Mormon Church's racist history, and you will know.
I go to Notre Dame, it's officially around 20% but tons of people either say they're catholic to get in or just come from a catholic family, I'd say half of us are actual practicing Catholics
I’m not Mormon but I’ve never heard that, even if thats true I don’t know why it would mean black people shouldn’t be Mormon, Cain made the ultimate sin but that doesn’t automatically disqualify his dissidents
@@sparks6177 If a sacred doctrine of a religion includes that dark skin is a curse and are the inferior descendants of Cain that are not meant to be "mixed with", it's hard not to see an issue with it. I assume they are picking and choosing which parts are true to them, ignoring it, or are just self hating.
@@MelancholyArmy I’m not picking and choosing anything... I said I AM NOT Mormon. And again I don’t understand how the view of Cain has anything to do with his supposed dissidents
@@sparks6177 Clearly, I am not speaking about you , hence, why I said "they"... I am explaining as a non-morman black person why black people usually tend to stay away from mormons as you said you "Don't Understand". There are also many other official and unofficial rules they made up to say black people are lesser beings throughout its history. I was hoping to hear from someone who is actually mormon and/or black on this...
I went to BYU, I’m not Mormon and to top it off I’m Latina. Some of the students and faculty were extremely rude! It was so hard for me to make friends. As soon as I said I’m catholic you can sense the feeling of judgment oozing through their eyes, it was horrible. I transferred out my first year, i never felt more like an outsider until I attended BYU.
@Dean Martinson oh they did! But I would always tell them “I respect you and your religion so please respect mine and my path to Catholicism” that’s when they weren’t having it anymore lol
I'm a Mormon and I just don't understand how people can do that and say they follow Christ. I've been raised to accept everyone and respect them and their beliefs and treat them how Christ would.
All the Mormons I've met are really chill..we had some missionaries that always swung by in our hood just to kick it for a bit. We drank and smoked and they stood a bit away so they didn't reek of bud and they wouldn't try to preach to us because they knew we weren't down with it...I really respected that
When i was a missionary, thats what we'd do sometimes too. Just chill with anybody and everybody, regardless of them being interested in our message or not. I remember a drunk man we'd always just sit next to and have (and share) lunch with. He'd share some stories of his life, and given our own lack of life experience, we'd just listen. He'd be as vulgar as anything, but it wasnt the point, it was just to hear of what people go/had gone through. When i left the area, i said goodbye to him and wished him well. Hope hes doing okay
I liked it, an interesting look at someone being their own person surrounded by LDS students who just happens to not be LDS. Good luck to her in whatever she chooses to do.
I’m LDS and live in the south, I attended a hard line southern Baptist school and it has been very hard. How y’all feel out west being the only non Mormons is how it feels to be Mormon in the south.
I just got accepted into BYU and I'm a non-member. My mom went as a non-member too and she said she really enjoyed the experience. I really like BYU but being a non-member does make me a little nervous to go there but this video helped me feel better and get some insight!
I'm so glad this video was helpful to you, Angie! I truly hope you have the best possible experience. That campus will forever feel like home to me. Good luck with your BYU experience!
Angie, You'll do fine. I ended up in graduate school at BYU as a "Gentile" back in 1980, a lifetime ago. It was a most enjoyable 2 years spent along the Wasatch Front. I got a great education. Just stick to your own beliefs and values and your experience will be fantastic. Go Cougars!
I graduated from BYU, stopped going to church halfway through my time there. I still encourage anyone who considers the school to attend, even though I am not of the faith anymore. If you're at all concerned about being a non mormon at BYU, don't be. The judgemental people will eat themselves up and you'll be left with a plethora of kind people all throughout the school. Don't be afraid to tell people no to their missionary advances. You'll be much happier with that boundary established.
Oh God the girl that replied to "what do you think of when you hear of non Mormons at byu" with "drinking" is such a mormon conditioning stereotype. Non mormon college student= drinking partying student
I know choral people who went to BYU cause they have some of the best choirs and acapella groups in the country. I'm actually an atheist but I end up spending a lot of time with religious people because of my love of classical choral music.
Considering going to BYU for my MBA because it's cheap (yay stereotypical accuracy!). This is good for me to watch as I'm non-LDS and from the Deep South, so Mormons are like aliens almost. Glad I found this. You get a like.
Thank you so much, Josh! I just wanted to tell the story through the eyes of one person...the experience of someone in the minority at BYU. I didn't go in with any preconceived notions, but I gained some interesting insights. Thanks for watching; glad you enjoyed!
Josh, yeah, we LDS folk can be pretty weird, sometimes, but I will say this: life is about what you make of it. I've known people who absolutely loved BYU, and some who absolutely hated it. Personally, I found the people to be friendly and generally good, though there were (as with any group of people) problems. BYU's got a pretty good MBA program, and it's at a reasonable cost, all things considered. If you do end up there, just roll with it, and I think you'll have a great time. :)
Perykvaal Spot On ‘Life is what you make it’. Things are what you make it. It’s true. I’d love to have gone to BYU. If you are there, what a privilege.
Josh- I’m LDS from the deep Deep South... Florida. I went to BYU after serving a two year mission in New York State. I studied illustration and became a graphic designer. I was at BYU in the mid 70s. Running into Mormons in Florida isn’t odd... there are over 165,000. I did have friends in high school that wondered why I was planning on going to BYU. I liked the idea of being surrounded by fellow LDS. Especially GIRLS! The one reason why I didn’t do as well grade wise was dating. I wasn’t bashful, so my dating life was prolific... and ohhhh how I loved dancing at the discos! We aren’t perfect, but we try!
She said the missionaries come to her door and she didn't know how they found her? That is astonishing.My husband was baptised LDS 70 years ago.He lived in Utah so he only did it to play sports.Never went.He moved to California where we met and married.NEVER WENT TO CHURCH. The church still pursued him.Then 15 years later we moved to another state....guess what? There they were!!! He NEVER would talk to them.It was always me saying he was not interested.They said then he needed to write a letter so they could excommunicate him! I finally wrote the letter as he thought it was ridiculous and I had him sign it.So far so good. No more visits or calls.They work very hard to get that 10%. The FBI has nothing on the LDS church.
I am not a member of the LDS church, however I know Brigham Young is a great school with great people and an absolutely beautiful scenery. I have autism and even though I’m extremely high functioning, I’ve always wanted to do something that is considered beyond my limitations and I think getting into BYU would be a sweet victory for me. I want to get into “BYU-Provo” very badly.
I'm a post mormon and people assume that you lose all your morals and values if you leave the church. It's super weird. I don't even drink alcohol or coffee but there's this perception that I'm a dirty heathen. For heaven's sakes!
@@tianamatson please don't judge all members by the actions of others, I'm a convert in MS and I'm the only lds member in my group of friends, some aren't even of the Christian faith but are really good moral people, some non members not in my group judge me for being lds but some members judge me because I'm more open to associating with people from other Faith's and because I have still had issues with tobacco and other things
Thank you so much; that is so kind of you! I was never actually out to get views or subscribers-this is merely a university Communications class project that has gotten a lot more exposure than I ever imagined possible. I ought to keep adding content to my channel (which is just a vessel for me to share a handful of projects). Thanks for your kind words; best!
They legally have to allow anyone to apply, but try to select people who are religious. If you opt out of that question on the application, typically, you don't won't get a response from their registrar lol.
As a catholic from Maryland who has never met a mormon, I have been oddly infatuated with mormonism as a whole. It's so interesting to me how they are portrayed in popular culture. It's super interesting to me that within the United States there is such a high concentration of one religion and that in the middle of our country there is an epicenter of an entire religion that seems so foreign to me. Also like the migration of mormon people across the country then eventually settling in Utah is interesting to me, doesn't feel that different from an exodus you would read about in the bible.
Daniel Poblete Thanks for your thoughts! Yeah, you’re right, there are some neat parallels. That’s cool you’re from Maryland...I grew up going there to visit family. I also have had several Catholic friends and they were all the most respectable, kind people. Wish you the best!
You should order a book written by Gerald and Sandra Tanner . No correlation between Exodus and the migration to Utah. So when you say you are catholic. What exactly are you saying ? The similarities between Roman catholic church are there , not christianity. Don't believe me! Understand that the same terminology is used but the meaning is different . Such as nature of God, Grace, salvation, works. And so much more. Do your research before making unsupported statements.
@@jamesclark5310 Daniel is just sharing his feelings about something that interests him. You don't have to do research before sharing an idea. I think he has every right to share what he has to say.
I live in a country other than the USA. The Latter-Saint missionaries are the USA’s best export and best ambassadors. Americans should be proud of them.
I'm glad she had such a good experience while going to school there. Two guys from my senior class that I grew up with both went there on football scholarships. One was LDS the other Catholic. The Catholic guy lasted one semester and left because he was basically shunned by the other students their. The guys on his dorm floor wouldn't talk with him. When he would go eat, he would wind up sitting by himself. His only friend was the other guy from our class, but he lived in a different dorm. He transferred to a university closer to home and loved it. The other guy left BYU at the end of his freshman year to go do his mission and then came back and finished up his degree. This was in the 1970s.
I am kind of shocked how Mormons seem to have a particular hate for Catholics more so than most, ok, Black and Hispanic Catholics are probably the worst given all the legal cases of LDS discriminating against them both.
Hey, How awesome you are at the Y. Pretty funny how shallow we can be at times. You are the anomaly though at BYU. But, I am sure everyone loves having you there. Think of all the great laughs you will have for this for years and years...and who knows BYU might just change your life more than you ever expected.
I live in Utah.. sandy. My middle school besties heard me say shit so the next day she brought me the Book of Mormon.. they have a really bad taste in my mouth lol
I have high standards and I'm NOT religious. You don't have to have faith to be moral and "good". I treat others as fairly as I can, and show respect that I would like to receive in return. If faith makes a person stronger, then that's good for them, but it's not a requirement.
@@elliefuller3667 Exactly. A saying I've heard is "I steal/lie/kill/rape as much as I want to, which is none". I don't need a book to tell me what to do.
Andrew, I didn’t notice this piece was seven years old. I hope you have gone on to do great things since this video. I was in media. So I notice where the production aspects don’t interfere with the story. I have been interested in content about “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints”. Religion is up to the person to evaluate and experience.
@@MissouriMatt54 That’s really cool! What did you do in media? I graduated in broadcast journalism in 2014 and worked in TV news for a year, then changed careers several times before settling where I am now-teaching 5th grade French immersion.
@@aklayable worked for PBS, indie film, and contract work. Then went on to computer programming. So I see it didn’t take long to get off the Taco Bell and working Memorial Day lifestyle. French Teacher sounds cooler anyways.
I tried to get into BYU for the foreign languages program. Great place to study... thinking back, maybe I shouldn't have let it be known straight out of the gates that I'm orthodox
@@aklayable I grew up with English and Spanish, and studied German and Arabic at New Mexico State 15 years ago. I play around with biblical languages and grammars as a hobby, but it's been years since I've spoken anything but English.
Thank you so much for this video. I have this AMAZING co-worker who attended BYU and who has been sharing the restored gospel and answering whatever questions I might have, even the very difficult ones around Race (I am Black). My daughter is thinking of attending so your video is of great interest to our family. One thing: Given Native American's troubled history with the Church, I was hoping for a brief question around whether there were any unique challenges she faced because of that.
Thank you so much for your feedback! I would love to help you find an answer to your question. The girl featured in the documentary was a classmate of mine at the time this was made, but that was five years ago, and I don't have her contact information anymore. I don't want to speak in her behalf in response to your question, but here's a resource for you: it's called "Chat with a Mormon." It's real, everyday members of the LDS Church who volunteer their time to answer questions by chat, no strings attached. Here is the link if you're interested: chat.mormon.org/ Best of luck, and if your daughter ends up attending BYU, I know she'll have a great experience! Let me know if you have any other questions for me.
@@aklayable Wow. Thanks for such a great resource. I will pass it on to my daughter and will utilize it myself If I do have any questions. My co-worker gave me a copy of The Book of Mormon so if i have any questions while reading it I'll be sure to ask your perspective if Mary or the online resources are not enough. Thanks again for taking the time to reply that was pretty cool of you.
I’m like a thousand years late but I loved this documentary. I am a member but not from Utah! I love how this was from a different perspective, it helped me understand a little of how those who aren’t members feel when they’re sometimes pressured about the church. I loved it!
@@ashtonkelly886 oh look it’s a Utah name. Hi Ashton with the gender ambiguous name. I bet your mom just scribbled syllables together until she came with that nonsense name. The sad thing is there were probably at least 10 other ashtons at your high school.
@@leothehobo Jonathan, my name is fine. What isn’t fine is your approach to silence me through embarrassment. Jonathan, if I was afraid of getting embarrassed I wouldn’t live in Utah. You should note that I am a gay man, working as a plumber in the wonderful state of Utah. Do I get heckled for being gay. You have no idea. Do I let those harsh words amount to anything. No. But do I try to follow the leadership of my Jesus Christ and see where people are coming from. All the time. If your irritation of Utah stands through the culture, I humbly feel you’d be more suited living in a more diverse, culturally diverse state. As for me, I would like to continue to live in a state with people that still look each other in they eye when walking past unlike California or New York. I live here because I learned to love it here. So in the end Jonathan, you can mock my name, or my age or anything else about me but you will never make me feel bad. Because unlike you... I am a mature adult. Please refrain from contacting me unless you have anything uplifting to say. Anything less and you are not worth my time
@@doperagu8471 I’m guessing they don’t realize athletes actually have to go to classes. Otherwise I don’t understand what else they could possibly mean
@@apollo1573 I think that by "whatever they want" they mean not following the standard mormon rules, like not drinking caffeine, no alcohol, no premarital sex, no "immodest" clothing, and a lot more. Sounds a bit more like they're jealous that the non mormons don't have to follow these rules while they're away at college 🤷🏼♀️
My advice: determine which things are most important to you in a college experience (the reputation of a school's programs, the quality of the learning experience, the social scene, the tuition costs) and decide based on that. What are you thinking about studying?
@@aklayable I lived in the Hillcrest neighborhood directly across from the University Mall for many years, so I recognized those landmarks immediately. I’m surprised no one pointed it out before! 😅 You’re awesome for replying to comments on such an old video (at least, in Internet time).
@@jordyv Thanks! I've let this video just "sit" on TH-cam for many years, and now the views are taking off! It's fun just to watch how it's spreading. That wasn't even my original intent-I uploaded it to TH-cam originally so I could pull it up on the kiosk computer in class and show it more easily LOL. I didn't even have my own laptop at the time.
My teacher highly recommended that I apply here coz apparently it has a great animation program, and I want to be a digital animator/cartoonist. I’m a non-Mormon, and I’ve been watching videos about BYU as a way of researching the school. It seems pretty alright, except for THIS aspect. It’s making me feel a little if-ey about it.
If the animation program is the right fit for you, then what is the concern? Are you worried about something said IN this video, or something people have said in comments ABOUT the video?
I think people are primarily surprised and confused. Why woukd you go to a religious school if you're not a member of that religion? Kind of like someone gpingvto the beach everyday but declaring thst they don't like the ocean. It baffles people. But BYU has several great programs that are attractive to people who aren't LDS. I think once your reasons are explained people would be pretty accepting. Getting that reaction on a regular basis might be a little annoying, but probably not a big deal. It's just a natural human response to hearing something that doesn't make sense to you on initial inspection.
@@JaimeGarcia-sg9xj yeah it was Joseph Smith, who got the idea from like a glowing white lizard angel or something. Either that or rye fungus in the water supply lol
@@vigilantejusticevid I Started reading the Book of Mormon in Afganistan and picked it up again three years later in Afganistan. I was in the Army 22 years and learned to never question a person's religious faith or their lack on one. I understand the 1830 first printing of it had much less pages. I wonder if it is a Word Document they just keep adding to? It appears to be hard to believe? But if it floats their boats? If they like it? Good for them. But it is one of those churches that try to extract mo ey from their members under threat of not getting the best place in Heaven unless they can extract 10% of their members' worldly wealth. I have had Mormons that their church is ONLY TRUE CHURCH. That's kind of insulting to members of other churches. I understand that in order to join it one must believe Joseps Smith to be a prophet of a long line of distinguished elderly white gentleman? Their church services last a long time and the members are supposed to be in accordance with whatever the first echelon tells them to do? I respect them very much as I respect everyone else's religious beliefs or lack of them. But just speaking for myself I could not be a good Mormon because I had to be in lock step with the Army all those years and that chapter of my life is closed. I have know some Mormons that are nice people, to be sure. But I never want to be asked if I agree with a bunch of elderly high quality elderly white gentlemen in Salt Lake? I sense that when Joseph Smith wrote the Mormon Book and got the church stood up that he copied a bunch of ceremonies from Freemasonry because both he and Brougham Young were Masons. I was raised a Catholic and that sucks enough. At least all I have to do now and then is to show up at Mass when I visit relatives and say the rosary a couple of times a year to keep my relatives and my mother happy. But honestly, I think the Mormon Church is man made and I heard it said to be the first of the prosperity gospels? But I don't know. I would be very respectful of Mormon beliefs so not to offend them. But I cannot anticipate wanting to be a member of something that sucks worse than the RCC.⚖ A
@@JaimeGarcia-sg9xj hey thanks for the nice words, if you don’t mind a few corrections, and I’m definitely not trying to change your mind, just clear up a few issues. The strict rules we have are for what I believe is our benefit. I have many non member friends and the rules I follow protect me from things that may not seem obvious at the time and some that are very obvious. Also the tithing thing seems iffy and I understand the hesitation, but it’s actually very upfront and I can see what my money is being used for, but I completely understand how it looks. Also we don’t add to our scriptures, I don’t know if it was still being translated or if you got a wrong book, but I’m as confused as you are. And the whole one and only true church is a bit misleading. We believe that churches have parts of the truth, but the gospel has been restored and the priesthood keys are back on the earth. Sorry that was confusing, but I guess it means we have the full gospel. I hope this cleared things up, and again that’s for the respect you show
Welcome, i am mormon and I really thing i have the same reactions, but excuse us for all this. No matter if you are not. You have the chance to succed and if BYU helps you on this, that is better. Thank you , sometimes we don't go outside the mormon bubble but if we go outside we can find people like you.
I am quite confused about what they share. I’ve met a few non-members of the Church of Jesus-Christ at BYU and I just asked them how their experience was. I didn’t think it was weird or they were athletes. Maybe it’s because this vidéo is from 9 years ago? Anyone can become a BYU student 🤷🏻♀️
I spent my last couple years of highschool and my first couple years of college in Utah County Utah. I went to UVU. I’m Jewish so I got plenty of weird looks when I told people my religion. For the most part Mormons were really kind to me. Not too intrusive and pretty chill. Some, especially the boomers, definitely didn’t like the fact that I wasn’t interested in converting. But the state is beautiful.
The difference for BYUI is that people here are less likely to be judgmental, at least from my time here. More minorities, but still largely Caucasian population. Still high lds culture and high lds member population, but there is a lot less controversy here than byu. Also, you have more people from outside of utah(but still a large utah population), and so people are more accepting and diverse. Most of the bad things mentioned in the video are not doctrine caused, but utah culture caused.
If there's one good field to learn from Mormons, it's probably PR.
What is PR?
@@kempersethaspajo2306 Public Relations
Or marketing and business
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A hahaha! No kidding!
I find it kind of hilarious that the black student gets approached by missionaries so much. Every Mormon I've known was a lovely person, but you can tell that there's a pretty serious savior complex that underlies the missionary work.
Yeah I'd say that definantly is a thing but only to certain missionaries, to generalize that all of them have that wouldn't be right
I think missionarys would go to anyone they feel would be interested doesn't matter color or area you live.. also missionarys are just trying there best and to be fair some of my friends are actually friends with missionarys and feed them and care for them while there in certain areas and there not even members.. there someone's son just be nice to them as they are nice to everyone around them
Thats dumb. They love the savior
WAIT WHY would people think she's going there to drink and party...??? That's the exact opposite of what I would think she was going there for
Jovianne Tabraham - That’s absolutely a good point! The girl we interviewed in the video who said “drinking” was very strange.
I gotta be honest...that girl we intereviewed in the quad...she was pretty dang strange :D
@@datner76 lmaooooo
GROW UP
@@bbakzuvciIii ok, just as soon as you let off the caps lock
Why did this just hit everyone’s recommend simultaneously
When I was a teenager, I was considering going to Snow College (BYU Jr.) and did a weekend excursion on campus. A girl asked if I was Mormon and I said no. She then asked me if I smoked pot. Needless to say, I left that weekend never to return.
Is Snow College considered a BYU Jr?? Never heard that before.
I've never heard of it called that. I will say it does have the toxic level of mormons but not nearly to the level of BYU.
Snow definitely isn’t byu jr lol, that’s like saying any college in utah is byu
@@kadenhart_ well any college in utah is gonna have a lot more mormons than other states so it's kinda true lol
If imagine that BYU is on the more extreme side of the spectrum of college cultures so snow college was probably not that bad
did we all get recommended this vid today?
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I have no idea why... lol
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I am not a mormon, nor do I attend BYU, why did I watch this
Only you can truly answer that question 😂
Have you read Educated, or did you watch any TellTale videos, or have you been looking at school rankings and for a very brief moment considered converting for cheap tuition?
Curiosity?
Being born and raised in Southern NJ...I've never met a Mormon in my life...
kai russell That makes two
They r chill people
kai russell I’m not mormon, living in utah, but they are so nice, almost all my friends are mormon.
@kai russell
That's like saying that you have never had squid at a restaurant.
Not a big deal.
Come to BYU, you'll meet a bunch of us! Haha, in all seriousness though, it's cool that we can learn so much about other religions and cultures, even if we aren't physically close to any of them!
Why are we all getting this recommended just now
I have no idea! It took 7 years to get the first 100,000 views, and the last 200,000 have been in the last two months!
@@aklayable get ready for much more
hey algorithm gang. what in the world are we doing here
I got lost.
Well 2 yrs later here I am...needing to go to bed 😂
😂
I'll never convert to Mormonism, but Provo looks to be one of the most beautiful places on earth. And every Mormon I've met was very friendly and sincere.
1 bar in that town lol. Bet the folks that kick it there are hella interesting.
The mountains are pristine out of necessity for watershed. The lake is incredibly polluted as is the air oftentimes. I could go on for hours about Mormon stewardship of the natural world but the real downside of Mormonism is the people believe that they are going to heaven and non-believers are not. That makes them incredibly obnoxious to be around in the long run. They make you choose being either for or against them so it was a very hard to make a decision so radical that it makes me prejudiced against an entire group of people but I don’t want them anywhere near me.
@@kaijessen3654 I also have heard about the rules they have. Not drinking is good and okay, but I heard they used to not be allowed to drink soda which is ridiculous.
@@dilby3246 Some people invented the idea that members of the church shouldn't drink caffeine, but it was never a rule for the church as a whole. BYU at one point didn't have caffeinated drinks on campus (which meant caffeine free coke), though you could always walk to a store or gas station across the street and get a red bull and drink it on campus. The weird things people do and say...
@@kaijessen3654 I would have to say that this belief isn't actually true. I am a member myself, and we don't believe that you won't go to heaven if you dont believe in church. As for the choosing to be with us or against us attitude, I cant speak for everyone, because everyone is different, but in general we do not or should not have that attitude and I apologize if you have had a negative experience with members.
"I'm a non mormon at byu"
Oh?
"I'm a Christian who likes hanging out with people who have the same values"
Oh......
My exact thought process when watching this video lol
😂😂
Traditional Christians have very different theological beliefs than LDS.
SaraSmilesandCreates And oddly enough, “Traditional Christians” have hard time relating to Catholics.
@@SaraSmilesandCreates similar social conservative beliefs though. not many colleges had a ban on “homosexual behavior” byu did though.
I went on a date with a Mormon girl in the 80s. My parting gift at the end of the date? A Book of Mormon...
Even better, I was pulled over by a cop driving home from the date, and he was really hassling me. Shining a flashlight in my face, and then into the car. It stopped abruptly when it landed on the Book of Mormon lying on the passenger seat, and his attitude immediately changed. He lightly scolded me for my expired registration, and sent me on my way... I kept that Book of Mormon in my glove box for years!
that makes for a great story! Police officer would definitely not have this expression if you were offered the Quran haha
@@Kawooo truuue
Good idea I got to get me one lol 😆😂
geez thats awesome
This was so cool to watch because I'm not even Mormon, but I thought BYU was only for LDS members! Super cool that they're open to having non members attend!
Sure, you just have to follow the rules.
I don't know why anyone would want to go to BYU. Mormon or not
@@tdubs5128 They have decent business major courses, but everything else is pretty shit.
@@tdubs5128 they have a very good animation program as well, disney and sony have been known to hire directly from the classes.
@gone fishing Their choirs are incredible
Damn, suggested by YT 8 years later? Mormons really stepping up their recruitment game
It’s so weird! It took 7 years to get the first 100,000 views, and the last 200,000 have been in the last two months! I’m not recruiting for Mormons (actually not recruiting at all); the video is just taking off!
@@aklayable Haha yeah I was just messing around, I know this wasn't a video intended for recruitment. Congrats on the success of the video!
As a non-Mormon, I would like to give thanks to the LDS for their work in collecting, transcribing, and indexing genealogical records and making them readily available. I understand BYU students do a lot of the actual labor.
They use it to perform baptism on the dead
They literally live in a bubble up there
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Being black is probably more difficult than being non-Mormon. Seems like everyone assumes the white girl is Mormon, and they assume the black girl isn’t
Literally?
I'd rather be in their bubble than the liberal bubbles I've had to be in for work.
Interesting that the black girl gets approached to convert repeatedly. What does that say about perceptions of race within LDS? Or within UT?
That’s what I was thinking !!?
Bruh mormons didn't accept blacks as legitimate people until like the 80s. They've always been a racist cult tbh.
Well.....they do believe black people are black becausw their cursed by Satan so? Lol it has a very racist past
It says that there are some really fucked up Mormons not all, not most, but defiantly more than a few but to say that that's how all Mormons are would be false
Mormons aren't used to Black people. They aren't overtly racist against them, but there are so few black people in Utah and the black culture is so distant from white Mormon culture that they see black people as outsiders, "urban people," who they should invite into the light
Why the hell is TH-cam recommending this?
I wonder what the Algorithm's purpose of recommending this to us was.
Reminder to the group: I appreciate all who have taken the time to watch my video. It was made as a communications class project. Comments are welcome, but please keep them respectful, constructive, and on topic. This is not designed to be an outlet for ranting or anti-Mormon preaching, debate, or hateful speech in general. If you make an out of line comment, I will remove it. Thank you.
Andrew Klay I was wondering why I didn’t see all the anti-Mormon’s here calling us devils 😂. Thanks, it’s nice to not read stuff that makes me sad or my blood boil.
Yep! That sounds like something the Mormon church would do. 😊
bartbutkis Mormon church? I didn’t know Mormon had a church.
Andrew Klay - Are you Mormon??? I was “Mormon” for about 2 years and realized everything they were teaching and was like ... nawwww, I’m out.
Chris Little it’s all between you and God dude. But I’ll tell you if you really really want to know, prayer really does work but you have to show God that you’re serious about getting an answer. I thought they were crazy with ridiculous fairytale stories when they visited me and that went on for a long time, then one day I really put it to the test and prayed about it and found that it was true. The cool thing is is whether you join the church again or not you can be friends with some really nice people from the church 😉. Best wishes
My Mormon friend goes to BYU. I don't know why this was recommended to me, but it was nice to see a little bit of his campus.
The algorithm works in mysterious ways.
why did the algorithm recommend this to literally everyone who uses TH-cam
This poor girl would of been the subject of every single correlation meeting in whatever student ward boundary she lived in.
😂
She's good at imitating the responses of when people are told by her she isn't lds. But saying oh, that's cool, seems a nice normal response.
Guess this is going through all ours algorithm atm
yupp
Yes
lmao
Thank you to the algorithm gods for bringing us together today
I used to live there and was always surrounded by Mormons some were nice and pleasant but most thought you were beneath them if you weren’t Mormon. They also portray a sorta “fake nice” where it’s all smiles but secretly judge you. I would say at least over 50 percent come off as perfect Mormons but then are drinking and partying on the weekends in salt lake then back to church on Sunday. Also forget about going to BYU if you are lgbt because if they see you or hear about you having relations with the same sex you will be kicked out. Oh and also not much diversity either with about 85-90% white.
Sounds like a whole nightmare 🤚🏾🥴
I might be wrong, but actually I think they recently updated school polices and such so they can't kick someone out for being lgbtq+ as long as they follow the honor code that every student has to follow. Even this past year as a student myself I saw a lot of support and activities for lgbtq+ students ranging from things as simple as a rainbow flag hanging in a window, to a rainbow day celebration on campus, to the Y on the mountain getting lit up as a rainbow
me being a black gay female: 🧍🏽♀️
Dude it’s Utah if you wanted diversity I’d move elsewhere 😂 Although the Hispanic culture is growing rapidly
@@reaganorton1710 That's what you don't understand about BYU. It's not a state school. It's accepting students from all over the US and the world. So BYU really should not have any difficulty in recruiting students of diverse backgrounds. Yet, BYU is so white. It just shows you that nonwhites really do not find Mormonism appealing at all. Why? Study Mormon Church's racist history, and you will know.
Huh, everybody else is commenting from half an hour ago. Hello everyone, thanks algorithm.
We need a word for the random videos the algorithm chooses
So this is all just gonna pop up on our recommended today then?
Why are we here?
@@camjohns2128 why are any of us here?
Lmaoooo having grown up in Utah those impressions were so accurate
Impressions...?
It kind of makes me wonder: How many non-Catholics go to Notre Dame?
Rudy!
a good amount a lot more than 1.5%
From what I saw it’s about 18%
I go to Notre Dame, it's officially around 20% but tons of people either say they're catholic to get in or just come from a catholic family, I'd say half of us are actual practicing Catholics
80% catholic officially catholic, but probs about only 40-60% are actively practicing.
I still don't understand why she chose this university.
I'm black and seeing these black mormons is super confusing for me. Isn't it taught amongst mormons that dark skin is a curse from Cain?
I’m not Mormon but I’ve never heard that, even if thats true I don’t know why it would mean black people shouldn’t be Mormon, Cain made the ultimate sin but that doesn’t automatically disqualify his dissidents
@@sparks6177 If a sacred doctrine of a religion includes that dark skin is a curse and are the inferior descendants of Cain that are not meant to be "mixed with", it's hard not to see an issue with it. I assume they are picking and choosing which parts are true to them, ignoring it, or are just self hating.
@@MelancholyArmy I’m not picking and choosing anything... I said I AM NOT Mormon. And again I don’t understand how the view of Cain has anything to do with his supposed dissidents
@@sparks6177 Clearly, I am not speaking about you , hence, why I said "they"... I am explaining as a non-morman black person why black people usually tend to stay away from mormons as you said you "Don't Understand". There are also many other official and unofficial rules they made up to say black people are lesser beings throughout its history. I was hoping to hear from someone who is actually mormon and/or black on this...
@@MelancholyArmy @Sparks isn’t gonna get it. Ever.❤️
Thanks for sharing your story and thoughts. Welcome to Utah! 😊👍
Lol " not saying all jocks are jerks..." "This is horrible!" xD
Wow, so I'm here at the beginning of the algorithm wave
I went to BYU, I’m not Mormon and to top it off I’m Latina. Some of the students and faculty were extremely rude! It was so hard for me to make friends. As soon as I said I’m catholic you can sense the feeling of judgment oozing through their eyes, it was horrible. I transferred out my first year, i never felt more like an outsider until I attended BYU.
@Dean Martinson oh they did! But I would always tell them “I respect you and your religion so please respect mine and my path to Catholicism” that’s when they weren’t having it anymore lol
@@jessjessjess56 Catholic Church is the true church, God bless
As a mormon, im not surprised.
American mormons can be very closed minded. Then again, a lot of americans can be.
I'm a Mormon and I just don't understand how people can do that and say they follow Christ. I've been raised to accept everyone and respect them and their beliefs and treat them how Christ would.
Sorry to hear that! Were you in a campus dorm? Off campus is more laid back and was a completely different experience for me after my freshman year.
Hello fellow people affected by the youtube algorithm
Greetings!
What's good bro
Feels like a recruitment video.
All the Mormons I've met are really chill..we had some missionaries that always swung by in our hood just to kick it for a bit. We drank and smoked and they stood a bit away so they didn't reek of bud and they wouldn't try to preach to us because they knew we weren't down with it...I really respected that
Those were some odd balls, all the ones I grew up with were squares
@@BIKEBLADESKATE we are human too
And that's how the majority is.
When i was a missionary, thats what we'd do sometimes too. Just chill with anybody and everybody, regardless of them being interested in our message or not.
I remember a drunk man we'd always just sit next to and have (and share) lunch with. He'd share some stories of his life, and given our own lack of life experience, we'd just listen. He'd be as vulgar as anything, but it wasnt the point, it was just to hear of what people go/had gone through.
When i left the area, i said goodbye to him and wished him well.
Hope hes doing okay
Very thought provoking, thanks for posting!!
I liked it, an interesting look at someone being their own person surrounded by LDS students who just happens to not be LDS. Good luck to her in whatever she chooses to do.
Thanks so much for your comment!
Who else thought this was going to be a comedy sketch
Lol that one kid then apologized for calling people "jerks"
Welcome to BYU hahaha
@@benv7933 wont apologize for being homophobic tho
@@DeepfriedBeans4492 You must not know many people who go there then.
@@kenton6804 No but i know their "religion" plenty
@@DeepfriedBeans4492 You should get to know more gay (and active) members, might change your perspective a little.
the crazier stat is that 98.5% of the BYU student body was conned by LDS lol
They seem to be crushing it tho. Mormon people are awesome and largely successful
@@Will-kl5ri they're idiots who believe in fairy tales.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Mormons are wannabe Jews
@@trichotillomaniac1959 Y’all all are believing fairytales. Jesus is no different from Zeus or Moroni or whatever imo
@@blackopsguy1023 true
I’m LDS and live in the south, I attended a hard line southern Baptist school and it has been very hard. How y’all feel out west being the only non Mormons is how it feels to be Mormon in the south.
Living in the Bible Belt is challenging.
@@jeremynemily it has it’s great perks and I love it, but it comes with it challenges
I really enjoyed this ! I think its great that she can be her own person in the sea of LDS !
Thanks for your comment!
I just got accepted into BYU and I'm a non-member. My mom went as a non-member too and she said she really enjoyed the experience. I really like BYU but being a non-member does make me a little nervous to go there but this video helped me feel better and get some insight!
I'm so glad this video was helpful to you, Angie! I truly hope you have the best possible experience. That campus will forever feel like home to me. Good luck with your BYU experience!
Hey! Which BYU school? Do you mean the one in Utah?
@@mirachan9064 Yes, BYU-Provo
When do you start? I can assure you that a lot of people won’t really care (in a good way haha), and you’ll find a place where you fit right in xx
Angie, You'll do fine. I ended up in graduate school at BYU as a "Gentile" back in 1980, a lifetime ago. It was a most enjoyable 2 years spent along the Wasatch Front. I got a great education. Just stick to your own beliefs and values and your experience will be fantastic. Go Cougars!
I forgot Mormons existed. Thanks for the rec, TH-cam
I graduated from BYU, stopped going to church halfway through my time there. I still encourage anyone who considers the school to attend, even though I am not of the faith anymore. If you're at all concerned about being a non mormon at BYU, don't be. The judgemental people will eat themselves up and you'll be left with a plethora of kind people all throughout the school. Don't be afraid to tell people no to their missionary advances. You'll be much happier with that boundary established.
Oh God the girl that replied to "what do you think of when you hear of non Mormons at byu" with "drinking" is such a mormon conditioning stereotype.
Non mormon college student= drinking partying student
Actually, I really think she was just an airhead LOLOL
Yeah why would she think a student who wants to drink would pick BYU out of any school in the country lol
I know choral people who went to BYU cause they have some of the best choirs and acapella groups in the country. I'm actually an atheist but I end up spending a lot of time with religious people because of my love of classical choral music.
Thank you Andrew. Very informative.
Considering going to BYU for my MBA because it's cheap (yay stereotypical accuracy!). This is good for me to watch as I'm non-LDS and from the Deep South, so Mormons are like aliens almost. Glad I found this. You get a like.
Thank you so much, Josh! I just wanted to tell the story through the eyes of one person...the experience of someone in the minority at BYU. I didn't go in with any preconceived notions, but I gained some interesting insights. Thanks for watching; glad you enjoyed!
Josh Lyons I am LDS and I hope you get great it as a child of GOD. sorry for stereotyping.
Josh, yeah, we LDS folk can be pretty weird, sometimes, but I will say this: life is about what you make of it. I've known people who absolutely loved BYU, and some who absolutely hated it. Personally, I found the people to be friendly and generally good, though there were (as with any group of people) problems.
BYU's got a pretty good MBA program, and it's at a reasonable cost, all things considered. If you do end up there, just roll with it, and I think you'll have a great time. :)
Perykvaal Spot On ‘Life is what you make it’. Things are what you make it. It’s true. I’d love to have gone to BYU. If you are there, what a privilege.
Josh- I’m LDS from the deep Deep South... Florida. I went to BYU after serving a two year mission in New York State. I studied illustration and became a graphic designer. I was at BYU in the mid 70s. Running into Mormons in Florida isn’t odd... there are over 165,000. I did have friends in high school that wondered why I was planning on going to BYU. I liked the idea of being surrounded by fellow LDS. Especially GIRLS! The one reason why I didn’t do as well grade wise was dating. I wasn’t bashful, so my dating life was prolific... and ohhhh how I loved dancing at the discos! We aren’t perfect, but we try!
Im sooooo sorry, but they approach her because shes black. She doesn’t fit the “LDS mold” I’m in Utah so... I see this.
Cool video. BYU dropout here. I had a terrible time there. But I like this video
Thank you, Nancy!
Why was this recommended?
Guess I'll learn about Mormons today
She said the missionaries come to her door and she didn't know how they found her? That is astonishing.My husband was baptised LDS 70 years ago.He lived in Utah so he only did it to play sports.Never went.He moved to California where we met and married.NEVER WENT TO CHURCH. The church still pursued him.Then 15 years later we moved to another state....guess what? There they were!!! He NEVER would talk to them.It was always me saying he was not interested.They said then he needed to write a letter so they could excommunicate him! I finally wrote the letter as he thought it was ridiculous and I had him sign it.So far so good. No more visits or calls.They work very hard to get that 10%. The FBI has nothing on the LDS church.
I watched the whole video and I still don’t know why she decided to go there.
Maybe she has a bad drinking problem.
I am not a member of the LDS church, however I know Brigham Young is a great school with great people and an absolutely beautiful scenery. I have autism and even though I’m extremely high functioning, I’ve always wanted to do something that is considered beyond my limitations and I think getting into BYU would be a sweet victory for me. I want to get into “BYU-Provo” very badly.
Thanks for watching the video, and for your thoughtful comment, Chase! I wish you all the best of luck in getting into BYU!
I like that : wanting to do something that’s above my limitations. You’ve inspired me.
I do have high values and I'm a Christian👍👍👍👍👍as a convert I love this, I feel like too many of our members think you have to be lds to have values
I'm a post mormon and people assume that you lose all your morals and values if you leave the church. It's super weird. I don't even drink alcohol or coffee but there's this perception that I'm a dirty heathen. For heaven's sakes!
@@tianamatson please don't judge all members by the actions of others, I'm a convert in MS and I'm the only lds member in my group of friends, some aren't even of the Christian faith but are really good moral people, some non members not in my group judge me for being lds but some members judge me because I'm more open to associating with people from other Faith's and because I have still had issues with tobacco and other things
This was well done. Thank you for doing this piece.
Thank you, Dennis. That means a lot!
How do you only have like a hundred subs? This video was informative and of nice quality. Hope to see this channel grow! :)
Thank you so much; that is so kind of you! I was never actually out to get views or subscribers-this is merely a university Communications class project that has gotten a lot more exposure than I ever imagined possible. I ought to keep adding content to my channel (which is just a vessel for me to share a handful of projects). Thanks for your kind words; best!
@@aklayable I look foeward to it! I wish you a nice day :)
Even Mormons want Mormon solicitors to leave them alone lol
I didn't know they allowed non Mormons to attend BYU😳
They legally have to allow anyone to apply, but try to select people who are religious. If you opt out of that question on the application, typically, you don't won't get a response from their registrar lol.
At least faithful
Anyone can attend bro. It's a college
As a catholic from Maryland who has never met a mormon, I have been oddly infatuated with mormonism as a whole. It's so interesting to me how they are portrayed in popular culture. It's super interesting to me that within the United States there is such a high concentration of one religion and that in the middle of our country there is an epicenter of an entire religion that seems so foreign to me. Also like the migration of mormon people across the country then eventually settling in Utah is interesting to me, doesn't feel that different from an exodus you would read about in the bible.
Daniel Poblete Thanks for your thoughts! Yeah, you’re right, there are some neat parallels. That’s cool you’re from Maryland...I grew up going there to visit family. I also have had several Catholic friends and they were all the most respectable, kind people. Wish you the best!
You should order a book written by Gerald and Sandra Tanner . No correlation between Exodus and the migration to Utah. So when you say you are catholic. What exactly are you saying ? The similarities between Roman catholic church are there , not christianity. Don't believe me! Understand that the same terminology is used but the meaning is different . Such as nature of God, Grace, salvation, works. And so much more. Do your research before making unsupported statements.
@@jamesclark5310 Daniel is just sharing his feelings about something that interests him. You don't have to do research before sharing an idea. I think he has every right to share what he has to say.
I live in a country other than the USA. The Latter-Saint missionaries are the USA’s best export and best ambassadors. Americans should be proud of them.
@@johnharvey4448 That's so wonderful to hear! Which country do you live in?
Looks like this suddenly hit recommended. Hi everyone 👋
of course people are going to assume you are a mormon if you go to Brigham Young University.
Zach Wilson and the Jets have led my TH-cam recommendations....here. I’m interested to say the least 😂
I'm glad she had such a good experience while going to school there. Two guys from my senior class that I grew up with both went there on football scholarships. One was LDS the other Catholic. The Catholic guy lasted one semester and left because he was basically shunned by the other students their. The guys on his dorm floor wouldn't talk with him. When he would go eat, he would wind up sitting by himself. His only friend was the other guy from our class, but he lived in a different dorm. He transferred to a university closer to home and loved it. The other guy left BYU at the end of his freshman year to go do his mission and then came back and finished up his degree. This was in the 1970s.
I am kind of shocked how Mormons seem to have a particular hate for Catholics more so than most, ok, Black and Hispanic Catholics are probably the worst given all the legal cases of LDS discriminating against them both.
Hey, How awesome you are at the Y. Pretty funny how shallow we can be at times. You are the anomaly though at BYU. But, I am sure everyone loves having you there. Think of all the great laughs you will have for this for years and years...and who knows BYU might just change your life more than you ever expected.
I live in Utah.. sandy. My middle school besties heard me say shit so the next day she brought me the Book of Mormon.. they have a really bad taste in my mouth lol
Mormons don't even live in Sandys anymore lmao
That's fucked up, I'm lds and if someone did that to me I'd have the same feelings. Sorry to hear that happened
I have high standards and I'm NOT religious. You don't have to have faith to be moral and "good". I treat others as fairly as I can, and show respect that I would like to receive in return. If faith makes a person stronger, then that's good for them, but it's not a requirement.
This is what I’m always saying. If you need faith/fear of a higher being to be a good person, you are probably not a good person.
@@elliefuller3667 Exactly. A saying I've heard is "I steal/lie/kill/rape as much as I want to, which is none". I don't need a book to tell me what to do.
@@madelinenantais2515 Absolutely. That’s a good saying, I’ll remember that.
Good job on your package. Editing, timing, audio, and shot composition was nice. Lifestyle b-roll was also nice.
Gosh, thank you! You’re the first person to say something so kind!
Andrew, I didn’t notice this piece was seven years old. I hope you have gone on to do great things since this video. I was in media. So I notice where the production aspects don’t interfere with the story. I have been interested in content about “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints”. Religion is up to the person to evaluate and experience.
@@MissouriMatt54 That’s really cool! What did you do in media?
I graduated in broadcast journalism in 2014 and worked in TV news for a year, then changed careers several times before settling where I am now-teaching 5th grade French immersion.
@@aklayable worked for PBS, indie film, and contract work. Then went on to computer programming. So I see it didn’t take long to get off the Taco Bell and working Memorial Day lifestyle. French Teacher sounds cooler anyways.
I had to visit BYU for work, I did get the same response, kinda. They were more interested why i was there. They can sense I wasn't their own
I tried to get into BYU for the foreign languages program. Great place to study... thinking back, maybe I shouldn't have let it be known straight out of the gates that I'm orthodox
Which foreign language(s) do you speak? I’m a French teacher.
@@aklayable I grew up with English and Spanish, and studied German and Arabic at New Mexico State 15 years ago. I play around with biblical languages and grammars as a hobby, but it's been years since I've spoken anything but English.
@@alexanderfinney1590 A polyglot. So awesome!!!
Thank you so much for this video. I have this AMAZING co-worker who attended BYU and who has been sharing the restored gospel and answering whatever questions I might have, even the very difficult ones around Race (I am Black).
My daughter is thinking of attending so your video is of great interest to our family. One thing: Given Native American's troubled history with the Church, I was hoping for a brief question around whether there were any unique challenges she faced because of that.
Thank you so much for your feedback! I would love to help you find an answer to your question. The girl featured in the documentary was a classmate of mine at the time this was made, but that was five years ago, and I don't have her contact information anymore. I don't want to speak in her behalf in response to your question, but here's a resource for you: it's called "Chat with a Mormon." It's real, everyday members of the LDS Church who volunteer their time to answer questions by chat, no strings attached. Here is the link if you're interested: chat.mormon.org/
Best of luck, and if your daughter ends up attending BYU, I know she'll have a great experience! Let me know if you have any other questions for me.
@@aklayable Wow. Thanks for such a great resource. I will pass it on to my daughter and will utilize it myself If I do have any questions. My co-worker gave me a copy of The Book of Mormon so if i have any questions while reading it I'll be sure to ask your perspective if Mary or the online resources are not enough. Thanks again for taking the time to reply that was pretty cool of you.
@@nightwatchman7630 No problem! Feel free to message me anytime if you have questions. Best of luck to you and Happy Easter!
I’m like a thousand years late but I loved this documentary. I am a member but not from Utah! I love how this was from a different perspective, it helped me understand a little of how those who aren’t members feel when they’re sometimes pressured about the church. I loved it!
Not late at all! Thank you for your thoughtful words.
I promise it is a not fun time living in Provo as a non Mormon. I can attest to it
It’s not fun if you are one either
Move, legitimately get the hell out of Utah then.
@@ashtonkelly886 oh look it’s a Utah name. Hi Ashton with the gender ambiguous name. I bet your mom just scribbled syllables together until she came with that nonsense name. The sad thing is there were probably at least 10 other ashtons at your high school.
@@leothehobo Jonathan, my name is fine. What isn’t fine is your approach to silence me through embarrassment. Jonathan, if I was afraid of getting embarrassed I wouldn’t live in Utah. You should note that I am a gay man, working as a plumber in the wonderful state of Utah. Do I get heckled for being gay. You have no idea. Do I let those harsh words amount to anything. No. But do I try to follow the leadership of my Jesus Christ and see where people are coming from. All the time. If your irritation of Utah stands through the culture, I humbly feel you’d be more suited living in a more diverse, culturally diverse state. As for me, I would like to continue to live in a state with people that still look each other in they eye when walking past unlike California or New York. I live here because I learned to love it here. So in the end Jonathan, you can mock my name, or my age or anything else about me but you will never make me feel bad. Because unlike you... I am a mature adult. Please refrain from contacting me unless you have anything uplifting to say. Anything less and you are not worth my time
@@ashtonkelly886 You sound like an angry person trying to convince people and yourself that you are happy.
Just proves you do not have to be LDS to attend BYU and/or live in Utah. Great video
Thanks, Robert!
1% of 30,000 is 300 people and they only found 1 person for the Doc? Hmmm then the rest are all probably athletes and do whatever they want.
Wdym by do whatever they want?
@@apollo1573 I'm wondering the same thing 🤔
@@doperagu8471 I’m guessing they don’t realize athletes actually have to go to classes. Otherwise I don’t understand what else they could possibly mean
@@apollo1573 I think that by "whatever they want" they mean not following the standard mormon rules, like not drinking caffeine, no alcohol, no premarital sex, no "immodest" clothing, and a lot more.
Sounds a bit more like they're jealous that the non mormons don't have to follow these rules while they're away at college 🤷🏼♀️
@@doperagu8471 ahhh yeah it would make sense that a Mormon would comment that lmao
Lmao i thought this was a skit video 😂
yooo same I realized that it wasn't a skit as soon as I heard the music
Im international student and I want to go to BYU because they have cheap tuition, is this wise decision? or should I pick another school...
My advice: determine which things are most important to you in a college experience (the reputation of a school's programs, the quality of the learning experience, the social scene, the tuition costs) and decide based on that. What are you thinking about studying?
If you wanted cheap tuition you could go to say a British university like say Manchester University. If cheap tuition is your only criteria.
Uh, most of the footage of “Provo” starting at 1:59 was actually Orem, the city right next to Provo.
Oh my gosh, you’re right! How did I never catch that? 😂
@@aklayable I lived in the Hillcrest neighborhood directly across from the University Mall for many years, so I recognized those landmarks immediately. I’m surprised no one pointed it out before! 😅 You’re awesome for replying to comments on such an old video (at least, in Internet time).
@@jordyv Thanks! I've let this video just "sit" on TH-cam for many years, and now the views are taking off! It's fun just to watch how it's spreading. That wasn't even my original intent-I uploaded it to TH-cam originally so I could pull it up on the kiosk computer in class and show it more easily LOL. I didn't even have my own laptop at the time.
What beautiful scenery
My teacher highly recommended that I apply here coz apparently it has a great animation program, and I want to be a digital animator/cartoonist. I’m a non-Mormon, and I’ve been watching videos about BYU as a way of researching the school. It seems pretty alright, except for THIS aspect. It’s making me feel a little if-ey about it.
If the animation program is the right fit for you, then what is the concern? Are you worried about something said IN this video, or something people have said in comments ABOUT the video?
Andrew Klay probably the reactions of the people at people who are non lds
I think people are primarily surprised and confused. Why woukd you go to a religious school if you're not a member of that religion? Kind of like someone gpingvto the beach everyday but declaring thst they don't like the ocean. It baffles people. But BYU has several great programs that are attractive to people who aren't LDS. I think once your reasons are explained people would be pretty accepting. Getting that reaction on a regular basis might be a little annoying, but probably not a big deal. It's just a natural human response to hearing something that doesn't make sense to you on initial inspection.
Is your teacher Mormon? They’re trying to convert you
Imagine going to a school which has the name of a con artist
I don't think Brougham Young was the one that wrote the Book of Mormon? It was some guy before him.
@@JaimeGarcia-sg9xj yeah it was Joseph Smith, who got the idea from like a glowing white lizard angel or something. Either that or rye fungus in the water supply lol
@@vigilantejusticevid I Started reading the Book of Mormon in Afganistan and picked it up again three years later in Afganistan. I was in the Army 22 years and learned to never question a person's religious faith or their lack on one. I understand the 1830 first printing of it had much less pages. I wonder if it is a Word Document they just keep adding to? It appears to be hard to believe? But if it floats their boats? If they like it? Good for them. But it is one of those churches that try to extract mo ey from their members under threat of not getting the best place in Heaven unless they can extract 10% of their members' worldly wealth. I have had Mormons that their church is ONLY TRUE CHURCH. That's kind of insulting to members of other churches. I understand that in order to join it one must believe Joseps Smith to be a prophet of a long line of distinguished elderly white gentleman? Their church services last a long time and the members are supposed to be in accordance with whatever the first echelon tells them to do? I respect them very much as I respect everyone else's religious beliefs or lack of them. But just speaking for myself I could not be a good Mormon because I had to be in lock step with the Army all those years and that chapter of my life is closed. I have know some Mormons that are nice people, to be sure. But I never want to be asked if I agree with a bunch of elderly high quality elderly white gentlemen in Salt Lake? I sense that when Joseph Smith wrote the Mormon Book and got the church stood up that he copied a bunch of ceremonies from Freemasonry because both he and Brougham Young were Masons. I was raised a Catholic and that sucks enough. At least all I have to do now and then is to show up at Mass when I visit relatives and say the rosary a couple of times a year to keep my relatives and my mother happy. But honestly, I think the Mormon Church is man made and I heard it said to be the first of the prosperity gospels? But I don't know. I would be very respectful of Mormon beliefs so not to offend them. But I cannot anticipate wanting to be a member of something that sucks worse than the RCC.⚖
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Oral Roberts to start.
@@JaimeGarcia-sg9xj hey thanks for the nice words, if you don’t mind a few corrections, and I’m definitely not trying to change your mind, just clear up a few issues. The strict rules we have are for what I believe is our benefit. I have many non member friends and the rules I follow protect me from things that may not seem obvious at the time and some that are very obvious. Also the tithing thing seems iffy and I understand the hesitation, but it’s actually very upfront and I can see what my money is being used for, but I completely understand how it looks. Also we don’t add to our scriptures, I don’t know if it was still being translated or if you got a wrong book, but I’m as confused as you are. And the whole one and only true church is a bit misleading. We believe that churches have parts of the truth, but the gospel has been restored and the priesthood keys are back on the earth. Sorry that was confusing, but I guess it means we have the full gospel.
I hope this cleared things up, and again that’s for the respect you show
0:25 is that the cars soundtrack?
Yes, I thought the exact same
TH-cam lmao this god damn suggestion
Welcome, i am mormon and I really thing i have the same reactions, but excuse us for all this. No matter if you are not. You have the chance to succed and if BYU helps you on this, that is better. Thank you , sometimes we don't go outside the mormon bubble but if we go outside we can find people like you.
I am quite confused about what they share. I’ve met a few non-members of the Church of Jesus-Christ at BYU and I just asked them how their experience was. I didn’t think it was weird or they were athletes. Maybe it’s because this vidéo is from 9 years ago? Anyone can become a BYU student 🤷🏻♀️
I am Christian and a Native American and i have some LDS friends. They get that I am a Christian.
I bet they were all traumatized when Miami painted the Y on the mountain orange before their football game one year.
I spent my last couple years of highschool and my first couple years of college in Utah County Utah. I went to UVU. I’m Jewish so I got plenty of weird looks when I told people my religion. For the most part Mormons were really kind to me. Not too intrusive and pretty chill. Some, especially the boomers, definitely didn’t like the fact that I wasn’t interested in converting. But the state is beautiful.
I adore our mountains!
that mountain view is amazing!
Is it the same for BYU Idaho?
The difference for BYUI is that people here are less likely to be judgmental, at least from my time here. More minorities, but still largely Caucasian population. Still high lds culture and high lds member population, but there is a lot less controversy here than byu. Also, you have more people from outside of utah(but still a large utah population), and so people are more accepting and diverse. Most of the bad things mentioned in the video are not doctrine caused, but utah culture caused.