@@chelsiruiz1886Yes, Carried Bradshaw. Took the words right out of my mouth. And then she married Mr. Big, the guy she cheated with when she was with Aiden, and then cheated again on Mr. Big with Aiden when they were already married. Toxic AF.
What I don’t get about the wagyu steak couple is that.. if she thinks he’s wasting his money on expensive food, why would you go out of your way to ACTUALLY waste it?? It could’ve still been cooked and enjoyed?? My god
There's a further update to story 3: She left her fiancé for the guy at work and he actually is divorcing his wife (more like she is divorcing him)... But it turns out he was lying to OP and dating a bunch of other women as well as her. Is anyone shocked? OP apparently was. OP is now back to saying she realises ex-finance was the love of her life. She reached out to him but he turned her down (good on him!). Apparently she has 'learned from her actions' and is 'moving on'.
Thank you for this! Not surprised at all, but I wish she actually would learn from her actions instead of just saying she has over and over and doing the exact same stuff
@@stevenreed6789 dude, why are you acting like they defended herz when it's very clear they didn't. they gave an explanation on why she would do it again and why the dude should just break up with her for his own sake.
@@stevenreed6789That comment isn’t them saying it’s okay, it’s just stating a pretty common fact cuz that often is the reason people do it It’s completely wrong and not the way people should deal with their unhappiness but people can be dumb
Yeah it's so normal for my father to get me and my siblings gifts for Valentine's day. In fact, every family I know does that. The bf is the odd one out
For the stalker guy, had he kidnapped her, he 100% would’ve SA’d her under the delusion that she was in love with him. It also very likely would have turned to murder if she ever convinced him that she wasn’t in love with him or if he decided that if he couldn’t have her, then no one could. I’m extremely glad that the OP was able to get out of that situation and move before anything happened. And that she had some incredible therapy and has, hopefully, come out of this relatively okay.
Yep, pretty sure I’ve seen this episode of Criminal Minds. If she didn’t play into his delusion it would for sure make it worse, and if he ever got her alone it would for sure end up with her dead. She may not be willing, but her dead body will be (grossest thing I’ve ever written, but it’s the sick truth) as well as any poor unfortunate woman he would take to be her replacement if she fails. So horrifying.
Yeah, the guy sounds exactly like Joe from You. Builds up the fantasy and infatuation for the girl. Believes she loves him too, but the second their alone and she isn't either his fantasy or in love with him, he'll either lock her away or just straight up kill her.
Yes, especially something that he’s so obviously excited about. We know she’s not interested in it, and that’s fine. Couples don’t need to be interested in the same things, but you should at least have respect for what your partner cares about. I love hearing people that I care about talk about things they’re passionate about, even if it’s not my interest, so destroying something he was so excited about is just unimaginable to me.
@@isthisfood523And for the Smosh group to just completely gloss over that? They didn’t care that the steaks were special to the OP, they only cared that the girlfriend had no interest in it.
Agree. The common bare minimum was like some hard ass work for her . Don't blame the man if he has a list of things because he doesn't want to get hurt nor fool again. He has trust issues because she has lying issues . Period.
He gave her ONE BOUNDARY “don’t talk to this guy you cheated on me with” and she couldn’t even do that…. He is FULLY DELUSIONAL to think she’ll follow a LIST 😭 it’s honestly really sad
could be wrong but I think that's kind of the point. He's not saying you have to do these things He's saying you have to do these things if you want to be in this relationship with me anymore - and I think pretty much the only answer he could expect or that she should give would be no.
I'm amazed by how these people twisted the story to blame the guy and she hulk kept blaming the guy 😂 one boundary 😂 and he's a toxic fiancé and he's restricting her. They're simply biased. Reverse the roles none of them would say of maybe the guy's unhappy, if a guy cheats they're like oh he's a piece of shit but if a woman does that they're like oh maybe she's not happy
Ikr but I think it most of them they like to pick one side in the argument and try there best to make it seem like the other side is the problem and I'm not saying that sexist but it's usually a guy they try to blame
She say that it's too complicated because she needs to do some mental gymnastics to make the situation favor women even when it's obvious they're in the wrong.
idk I think most situations, especially those involving hurt feelings within a relationship, are actually much more complicated than most people give them credit for
Came to say the same thing. And the boyfriend is threatened because he does not want to be the kind of man her father taught her she deserves. Glad they broke up
I moved out a couple years ago and regularly visit to buy my little sister flowers and chocolates. I swear, if her boyfriend thought it was creepy I'd be pissed. sounds controlling as fuck
@@PTwithKatiethis was my thought! Imo it felt like he thought it was less "creepy" and more he thought the dad made him look bad (or something of similar feelings).
I’ve never heard it phrased as ”empathy sometimes is the reason you ignore red flags” but that really struck me as quite eyenopening and somehow reassuring.
ESPECIALLY when it’s in a house that straight up belonged to only one partner until recently. It’s toxic to tell your partner “it’s my house so these are my decisions” but devil’s advocate, it’s not easy to just give up ownership and freedom in the course of a couple of months for someone else.
@@thepeanutgallery9980 Yeah, even if it is your house/flat/whatever alone, you should turn it into a home for you both. Then again: From the things and the way he told them it doesn't seem like money is a big issue (Casually Buying Wagyu, Owning a House, Planning to go fancy dining with family, being upset that the wagyu is burnt because he was excited - not because it was expensive...) AND it was just a garage project... like, how much time does she spend in the garage for it to actually affect her? I get it if he wanted to completely rearrange living room, bedroom and kitchen, but the garage?
Story two: Some more context. That woman's mother used to be the gift giver who made a big deal about holidays, getting her son and daughter something every year. She died when OP was a child and her dad took over the tradition in her place. He sends her and her brother a Valentine's gift bag every year and has since their mother died.
@@PenelopeAstony It really imo also helps explain why the OP was so initially thrown off. Not only is it a childhood tradition but her dad does the same thing for her brother so it never occurred to her to even think about it because there's nothing to think about.
"We been together 6 years now and during the third year of our relationship I cheated on him with a close family friend. I had started taking him for granted and it became easy to cheat because I didn’t value the relationship. " She cheated because she could, not because she's unfulfilled. "I didn't value the relationship" does NOT indicate that HE did anything wrong, and in fact purely points out that she saw a chance and took it. It's lame that they completely discounted the VERY FIRST paragraph.
Yeah. It’s one thing to feel unvalued in a relationship and your partner not listening to you or showing you that they care (even still I feel like good communication can solve that but) it’s another to just not care about someone.
She didn't value the relationship and wasn't fulfilled by the relationship is the same thing. And I'm pretty sure they said specifically that it's not his fault for that. Relax 🌴
About the first story, cancelling the dinner doesn't necessarily constitute revenge. After she destroys something important to him, just sitting down for dinner with her and her family like nothing happened is going to be very uncomfortable. He has every right not to want to be in this situation.
And she was mad at him for "wasting money" after wasting $200 worth of food. So cancelling the dinner prevented wasting more money on an awful meal. Of course she got mad, because the money wasn't used on her like she wanted
Absolutely. And by destroying EXPENSIVE FOOD she just proved that it would be a waste to go to an EXPENSIVE RESTAURANT with her. Also from the way he tells things, it does seem like he has quite some money and is sponsoring her...
Gotta be honest, destroying the steaks in break-up worthy to me. Personally, I don't really care about steaks, but OP clearly does. If a partner destroys something YOU enjoy just because they don't; just leave.
Possibly an unpopular opinion on story 1: I think cancelling the birthday dinner at the high end French restaurant was a completely reasonable response. There's no sense in wasting money to buy high quality food that she's not even capable of appreciating (what she did to the steak proves that she can't - no one with an appreciation for good food could ever bear to destroy legit wagyu steak (at worst, you might cook it and eat it all yourself)).
Exactly. The gf wastes $200 worth of food (seemingly intentionally) and Amanda is like "but her birthday!!!" Canceling those plans were very reasonable, because why waste more money? Her takes are insane...
I also saw it as perfectly reasonable for not rewarding bad behavior. So she's going to act like a spoiled brat and still expect a treat? HELL no. She wants to act like a child, treat her like one.
How's he gonna ban her from going to her birthday celebration with her parents? Without stirring up a huge confrontation at the restaurant@@akenohononiku916
Wagyu steak story: if OP had taken a fork to a brand new $200 makeup palette his girlfriend just bought because he was mad about something, she would absolutely lose her shit. She can’t act like burning the steak is a sane move, or like his reaction wasn’t warranted.
Even if it was just a 10$ steak that he was excited about, you just don't destroy your partners things. Especially not over such a minor conflict. Because to be fair, it is HIS house and it was JUST a garage project. Like how much does that affect her? Is she spending her weekends in the garage or what?
@MrFox-xr9cc especially if he's the one paying and doing all the work for it. My wife already had a house before we got married and I would have never tried this. Especially after only a year of dating and 6 months living together.
@@DeadEye2956 exactly. If they had responsibilities like children or were married for a longer time, sure this becomes a discussion for everyone, because it is money that could be otherwise well spent. But after half a year of living together im not dictating my partner what to do or not to do with his money, as long as he is not going bankrupt or fueling an addiction.
its truly the most disgusting, vile and sickest story ive ever heard em read on this show. this was a murderer's jounal notes before he ever came to be a murderer. that IS THE CLOSEST THEY GOT TO TRUE EPITOME OF (DARK) REDDIT. that was appalling
I have to choose to believe that it was a work of fiction and ragebait because the idea that there are actually people out there like that is fucking horrifying.
It was so hard to listen to. I had to pause it every minute or 2 to give me a break from it. So gross, hope she's living safely and has regained some sort of peace of mind
I really can't believe Amanda started her opinion on story three with "Of course what she did isn't right, but there are BIGGER issues here." She cheated on him. Repeatedly. That is, overwhelmingly, the biggest issue here. Are there other issues? Sure? I guess? But not a single one of them is bigger than the fact she repeatedly cheated on him. Like, playing devil's advocate for a woman who betrays her partner over and over and over and over with the mentality of "Well, she clearly isn't getting what SHE needs from the relationship" is baffling to me. If she isn't getting what she needs, she should leave. That's it. That's the *only* acceptable response to her situation, if she finds herself in one like that. Not to mention, there is absolutely zero evidence that she wasn't "getting what she wanted." By her own admission, she felt like her partner was "perfect" and she repeatedly begged him not to leave her. So giving her some imaginary out is just .. kind of a bad take, frankly.
That take made me feel so icky. It reminded me of growing up fundamentalist and the excuses that would be made for men who cheated on their wives. “Well, what was SHE doing wrong? She must not have been making him feel fulfilled”.
@@gamelove0169came to the comments to make sure I’m not the only one that feels this way. I get the men are wrong in a lot of these stories but she will perform crazy mental gymnastics to go to bat for women in the wrong.
Those can’t actually be real. Like right from the get go it seems like a joke. It’s way too extreme. No one is actually like that. Hitting every single creepy incel talking point at once? No way. Like the Mad Men comment. It would’ve been believable if he’d just left it at that”I’ll introduce you to great shows like Mad Men”. But adding the shit about what a model wife should be? Bull. Parts are probably real and there may have been a desk neighbor that kept a journal but the entries were 100 percent added to or altered to make them worse
Look, I LOVE the campy villain energy of serving someone’s prized steak burnt like charcoal and responding “who me?” But for a real relationship?? Not mature. Not cool. Not ok.
Yeah that's a sitcom joke, you laugh at the absurdity of the action and dysfunction of the relationship. The whole plot of most sitcoms with a relationship at the centre is the couple doing anything but talk for ~15 minutes and then finally resolving things by talking them over at the end of the episode. In real relationships you should skip the part where you're not talking to each other.
Story 3: OP cheats with a family friend. OP begs for forgiveness and is tsken back. She then secretly rebuilds a "friendship" with the "friend". And now she wants to pull the victim card? Like, dude would be way better off just fumping her. But she doesn't deserve sympathy for being held accountable for her choices. And then the updates, jeez. Some people should just stay single.
People pleasing judgments to dodge internet offense 🙄 scared of keyboard warrior comments. they’re NOT the only TH-cam reddit readers to be doing this over time.
The guy who had his belongings destroyed definitely wasn't a good guy but saying "my house" when it both of their home is not on the same level as destroying property.
@@blossomrouter4797 well he wanted to do something in his garage with probably his own money and she didnt want him to do that, and then because she didnt get her way although he texted her saying he wants to talk about it(maybe compromise although he has no obligation to do so) she burns his steaks whith no reason to do so whatsoever, they were his steaks that he wanted to prepare for them, he enjoys cooking and has never had them and was really really looking forward to it, if you dont get that you will never have a good relationship, the biggest nono to do is stomp on something ur partner enjoys or looks forward to
@@thefighternitro it was his house but their home, see they share the house no matter who owns it she lives there, and as I said they are both bad, you got to ->communicate
Op cheated and destroyed her partners trust. It doesn't matter if it wasn't romantic because she still played around behind his back. If she can't reach those expectations then they need to officially break up and not continue the relationship. She put him in that position and now they're both showing toxic behaviors.
Totally agree, it’s so hard to trust someone again after they broke it multiple times and it seems like they both need to move on for the sake of their own mental health.
this is THE take !! the guy was toxic in his boundaries, but ONLY AFTER she absolutely destroyed his trust twice. yes, those boundaries are unacceptable to request and expect your partner to follow, and he should have just broken up with her. but that doesn't mean that she is justified in her disrespect towards him throughout the entire relationship
I love how Amanda went from defending the cheater to story 3 to immediately trashing all over that shit when it was revealed she cheated _a __-second-__ third time._
Yeah, it did make me laugh a little, to be honest. Amanda usually goes to bat for the women (not saying that's wrong, but she usually does have a longer leash, is a little more empathetic, from the female perspective) but by the end of this story even she was like "Just leave everyone alone! You obviously don't want to be married!" like, she just couldn't defend her anymore. 🤣
My first bite of wagyu changed my life and it was the walmart brand. If someone intentionally burned $200 worth of wagyu I would certainly not waste money on a fancy dinner for them. This also just shows she doesn’t appreciate that kind of food anyway.
I feel so bad for that woman’s bf/fiancé. She strung that man along and wasted YEARS of his time to just leave him months before their wedding?! At some point you have to be real with yourself and what you feel and recognize that just because you love someone doesn’t mean you should be together and that that’s not enough. It sounds like she loved him loving her… if stepping away so many times was that easy. There’s no way she was truly both feet in, head over heels in love. Be real…
Don't worry. She will leave the next guy (who was still married, but can't leave his wife right now because of finances. Sure, buddy) soon enough anyway.
Yeah there's no way this new guy is going to uproot his entire life after knowing her for only 3 months, he already even told her he's not divorcing his wife for her. She's definitely only in love with the idea of being in love and will always chase those butterflies until she sees a therapist to figure out why she feels the need to before she hurts another guy.
@@aarons.2323 He will also leave her, too (if he even does leave his wife lol). They are both cheaters. They will never be happy with each other if they were to date.
a few points on story 3... 1. Shayne is absolutely correct. The previous relationship has to end to even consider a new one, and they should've been in couples counseling before even considering marriage or a new relationship to begin with. 2. 23:18 - 23:31 I hope this is just a misread of the situation. There is never a good excuse to cheat. There are never wider circumstances that make it okay to cheat over just leaving. If you aren't satisfied with *part* of your relationship, ask if you can open up the relationship. If not, then you need to just leave. It's not good for either person to continue a relationship where you're only satisfied by hurting your partner. 3. The demands are a lot. I understand why he has trust issues, but I don't think this is a relationship worth saving. She deliberately went behind his back to rekindle a friendship she knew would make him uncomfortable. That's all I really needed to know. He was uncomfortable for a valid reason, and she did it anyways. It reads as selfish and inconsiderate of her partner's feelings. 4. the updates... oh the updates... that poor, poor man.
On your 2nd point, I think even just asking to open up the relationship is a bad idea. If you're unsatisfied, you need to fix that before inviting another person into your mess. A cheater also cheats in polygamous relationships, because cheaters have something fundamentally wrong with them
@@dove2826I don't think all cheaters have something fundamentally wrong with them. Some can't escape an abusive situation and cheat to cope. That's out of the realm of this, so in this situation, this specific girl definitely has some kind of complex or mental issue related to trust, love, and commitment. As someone who has known a lot of cheaters, one being my own father, I understand that sometimes it is a sign of abuse or trauma. That needs fixing, not condemning.
@@Thunderous333 Being abused is not an excuse to hurt another person. Nobody who is being abused by their partner would cheat on them. That would be incredibly dangerous. That's just not how it works. It's abusers that cheat, not the other way around. I say this as the only person in a highly dysfunctional generational family who has actually taken a step back to observe.
@@dove2826 i agree that trying to open a relationship in order to save it is trying to side step the real issues. If a partner doesn't respect you in a closed relationship, giving them more opportunity to disrespect you in an open one is just not the solution.
I completely agree, it just seems like he doesn't value himself fully and only cares about trying to make her happy despite her not doing the same for him, so he tries to set boundaries while staying in the relationship and she still tries to paint him as the bad guy, she's a bad person and he is way to lenient probably because he's self conscious and doesn't fully care about how he feels and only cares about pleasing other people
I can't get over their response to the wagyu steak couple. There's no justification for burning it. Just because she doesn't care and isn't excited about it, HE was, and going out of your way to destroy something your partner is excited about will never be the correct or appropriate justification. She was entirely out of line and I don't care how bad he was during the argument, that's inappropriate. She should've just left if she couldn't stand him that badly.
They've covered once since releasing this episode, and they were more empathetic in that one. Amanda does tend to judge the dudes more harshly, and Shane usually matches the guests' energy. I can't comment much on Tommy's reaction though.
I think the worst part of the third story is that the cheater is the one that broke it off with the fiance. Even in her post about breaking up with him she just keeps saying that it's hard for her to do it and that she wishes she loved him. It's desperate and it's sad tk see that the fiance didn't get to really stand up for himself and kinda grow a backbone.
I was begging the entire time for it to be some fantastical work of fiction. I’m not doubting its validity, but I can’t process something that horrendous being real
Lately the smosh cast in these reads have been giving so much benefit of the doubt to the person in the wrong, that it’s just straight up controversial. What do you mean the first guy is the ass hole bc he didn’t pay for an expensive dinner after his gf destroyed something he was looking forward to and spent a lot of money on. and why are they saying that she could have a reason that they just don’t know about yet. There is no excuse for her emotional abuse and manipulation. But lately Smosh has been doing this. I have not agreed with a majority of their opinions on some of these reads.
The wagyu couple. He’s 100% correct for canceling. She WASTED $200, but then wants him to be okay with spending MORE money on both her & her parents..?.. But he wastes money??
@@lavarelease2928 I was thinking the same thing... They only had this take just because of that. If the op was the woman and guy was the food waster they would have immediately sided with the op.
When Shane talks about empathetic people putting up with shit I was reminded of something amazing someone told me recently. “You can understand the behaviour without excusing it” This is now how I try to live my life!
yep, well said. I wrote about that in one of my comments pretty much. just because they're also going through something tough doesn't excuse your behavior. it's like that one reddit stories episode where the woman with cancer tells her husband she's going to sleep with her coworker whether he likes it or not, then gets angry at him when he says no because she thinks she deserves to have the hall pass after what she's gone through. like, just because you are dealing with cancer doesn't give you any right to blatantly cheat on your 20+ year husband with some dude you just met.
Very true. And in a smaller way, it goes the other way as well... Understanding and explaining something doesn't mean you're excusing it. Sometimes the comments on these videos think that every time they explore the other side, that is excusing it and invalidating the other side. While it can be simply about understanding. (Less important ofc than what you're saying, but kind of the other side of the coin)
I have a similar thing when people try to excuse themselves or other people being assholes based on the fact they’re mentally ill I always say “mental illness is an explanation not an excuse”
Dad in the Valentine’s Day story set a great expectation for his daughter for what it feels like to be appreciated, BF just can’t handle that he’s going to be held to that standard.
To say "to her it's not that big of a deal" when talking about the steaks is a little wild to me. Just because you don't understand the value someone else puts on something doesn't mean it now has no value
@@vocasoti the steaks don't really matter to her but clearly money does and they cost alot of money, she got upset at him for wasting money and then wasted food and therefore the money spent on it. She is a hypocrite and doesn't even realise it
@@cleversmosh it feels like it was more about control than actually about the money. Especially with her fully expecting him to pay for a super expensive dinner for her and her parents
It does highlight *why* she did burn those, on top of wanting to hurt him. The woman obviously didn't understand the difference between what is common at a store and those steaks in particular. Which kinda just adds to the toxicity because it's like, okay, if *you* don't understand, that doesn't mean it's any less important.
@@ZariLutusThis. Her issues with control come up multiple times in the story. The only reason he mentions it being his house is because she's trying to assert her opinion over his on how he spends his money on it. If it wasnt her house to begin with, then she hss no reason to have more say than he does, she's just trying to control how he spends his money. Then we have how she responds to arguments. After their first argument, he calms down within a few hours and messages her reassurance that they'll discuss it again. Her response is to burn his steaks, again forcing the issue. When the second argument happens and she's the one facing consequences, se again controls the situation by entirely withdrawing and refusing to communicate.
That guy who was jealous of the dad sending flowers and chocolate - he’s trying to put a wedge between her and her dad. The first step in isolating her. Which is a common first step of (say it with me) an abuser. So glad she got outta there!!
I’m so sorry, those rules aren’t a red flag. She cheated, she can’t be trusted. She rekindled their relationship in secret, she definitely cannot be trusted. So yes if she wants him back, she needs to do that. If she doesn’t want to, she leaves. And she should because he deserves better.
Those rules ARE a red flag, but. There's a difference between "this is a red flag against the relationship being able to continue in a healthy way" and "this is a red flag that you specifically are toxic and abusive". The cast was clearly leaning toward the former based on when and how they decided to throw the flag. Fundamentally setting rules like a curfew, check ins and access to all devices and accounts means that whether or not setting them makes you the "problem," without serious counseling for both of them and actual healthy boundaries, this relationship is doomed and can't ever truly be repaired.
It definitely is. The second you feel it's necessary to control your partner it's time to end it or get professional help. not make up nonsense controlling rules
The “creepy gift” thing reminds me of people who calls out David Beckham for hugging and kissing his daughter. Some people can no longer live without s3xualizing affection.
The notion that someone who cheats is missing something is so bizarre. There are so many people who cheat just because they are entitled and test people like objects
the third story, the guy has every reason to not trust her, 100%. but if youre at a point where you think those rules are a necessity for the relationship. it means the relationship means to end.
@@tomaszskowronski1406 i see it more as desperate copium because naturally if you love someone a lot, breaking up with them is your last resort. plus likely lack of self worth thinking the person should be forgiven a third time as opposed to finding someone else
24:08 Omfg don’t you dare bring up the “they aren’t happy so they cheated”, it puts the blame on the person who got cheated on. If you aren’t happy in a relationship then be an adult and break up or talk about it. Sometimes you are going to be unhappy in a relationship, it happens- that’s why you talk or that’s a sign you need to go. Dont make it messy and hurt someone just because you are to insecure to be by yourself.
@@RubyGeeScuderia I was already a little tick by their takes so hearing that kind of pushed me over lol. I don’t think they mean harm, but yeah there’s such thing as trying to stretch your mind too far (like you said).
okay so my PERSONAL OPINION on the wagyu steaks thing is, its the same principle of the guys who throw away a womans dear mug collection, or the guys who order a salad for their date because 'you need to lose weight'. he was looking forward to those steaks for who knows how long, he presumably had the disposable money for it otherwise he wouldn't have bought them, (why would you buy 200$ wagyu if you can't afford rent, right?), what else could she potentially be throwing away or destroying for him. it's not necessarily *evil* but it has the potential to be a problem in the future. anyways, i'm probably looking too much into it
also i think they just shouldn't be together if they have such differing opinions on food, thats not gonna work out. the only reason they should be together is for the entertainment of others because i bet watching their relationship is like watching a car crash of a clown car and a prius
It's evil in the blind malicious intent. She did it because that was his thing, and she was mad at him. And she did it to the point where not only did she waste $200 to "prove her point", she also wasted *meat.* As in. She wasted why an animal was killed in the first place. She is a certain type of evil to be that level of petty over a point you're not even consistent about yourself. Like the logic is wonky, because it's really not about the excuse she gave.
No, I agree. To me, it wouldn't have mattered if he spent $200 on clothes or spent a $200 gift card he was given, that money meant a lot to him if he felt it was worth spending it on something he would enjoy. The fact she so callously wastes those steaks shows how much she doesn't care about him and wants him to suffer by having to watch her burn the steaks. She wasted his money and took away something he would have enjoyed, knowing that it would make him upset. That, for me, is where I'd just end it altogether.
I generally like Amanda, but I think she's better suited for the Reddit videos that are about super niche topics that are in her wheelhouse (such as the service industry or the true crime/horror stories videos) or topics that are more light-hearted/wholesome in nature. Because she had some truly out-of-touch takes this episode, especially for story #3. Honestly I haven't felt so icked by a cast member's opinions on a Smosh Reddit video since the "World's Worst Family?" video.
Shayne fighting for his life to rectify his coworkers wild takes in these videos is so funny, im watching this and getting increasingly nervous to hear amandas takes😂
I do wish Shayne would sometimes more openly point out bad tales. I know he doesn’t like confrontation but sometimes direct action is a better approach.
I think it's so weird how so many people are brushing over the OP in the first post saying he was willing to discuss the garage issue. Yes, it is sh*tty that he's holding that fact that they're living in his house over her. However, it's not like he was just dismissing that. He very plainly says he communicated with her that he'd like to talk about it. Just when he has a more even head. Which I personally don't see the issue with. The girlfriend jumped straight to being vengeful with steaks she knew he was excited about. That's an enormous red flag to me. That her first instinct was revenge after he said he'd like to still discuss the issue. I don't even see him cancelling the dinner as vengeful tbh. You don't get to do something very hurtful to your partner and still expect them to gift you something after you haven't even done the bare minimum of apologising 🤷🏾♀️ I guess I'm a red flag too.
Honestly i see both the things they did as things they did with the intention of it hurting their partner and once a relationship's hit that point it's just over
@@felixhenson9926 I don't think so. I'm a very emotional person and need things to be sorted out and in harmony. If my partner disrespected me, destroyed something - both emotionally valuable and money wise - would completely throw me off. At this point i couldn't just sit down at diner with her parents... Also: She didn't want him to waste money on expensive food, made that point very clear and showed, that she has no respect for fancy food whatsoever. So since she doesn't respect fancy food AND doesn't want him to waste money, cancelling the reservation at the fancy restaurant is the only thing in line with her own logic...
Story 1: it doesn’t matter that she doesn’t care about it being Wagyu beef, or that it was just meat, what matters is that she intentionally destroyed something he spent a lot of money on before he could enjoy it. It’s the same thing as pouring out someone’s expensive bottle of perfume or spending someone’s $200 gift card or spa certificate. She intentionally destroyed something that he spent a lot of money on to spite and hurt him. I don’t blame him for not wanting to attend the fancy dinner now. This relationship sounds doomed and they should just break up.
Exactly. It's the lack of respect that's the problem. Not the steak itself. If you have to like something in order to respect another's interests, especially a partners, you never developed mentally past 13.
@@gungle2595you’re correct, I agree with you; I just used items of equivalent value so that I wouldn’t get replies telling me I was comparing diamonds and lug nuts. Tbh, for me, it’s even more devastating when something handmade or sentimental is destroyed.
to me tho, it kinda felt like- it's not about the steaks, it seems with his original story this was her breaking point, she doesn't have any control in their home, money, etc and this gave her that, they are very unhealthy relationship clearly but idk- felt like it was her snapping, like especially because the og story has no details of her acting like this in the past, his way of telling the story, etc idk maybe ivm projecting my own abuse history onto this but, i know i have had moments where ive snapped and said or done something crazy,
ngl the fiancé's requests one, i think most of the rules he gave are absolutely warranted given how badly she's hurt his trust, but given the rules, they just need to break up. like, the rules to me are just him giving her an out without having to break up with her
@@ricorojas1854sadly I feel like that’s often the case with these episodes. I love these people from the smosh cast, but they do let women off a lot easier than men in their judgement :/
The rules are a classic victim response of trying to regain control where control was taken away by his partner. He knows he can't trust his partner, but he chooses to blame himself for it and tries to fix everything himself. It's not a healthy mindset but an incredibly common one after someone is cheated on
amanda's bit about "telling someone that they can't have something, of course they're going to want to go for that" is missing the point. the issue here isn't whether she wants other people/experiences in addition to or instead of her partner, or why she cheated. it's that she broke his trust once, then after she worked with him to regain his trust, she knowingly broke it again and tried to hide it. and now she's upset because the consequences are worse the second time. the dude should have just broken up with her instead of the list of demands, though, because you don't and can't really trust someone if you need more evidence than their word to believe them
It's easier said than done. The dude clearly wanted to try everything to make the relationship work. It's not easy to give up on someone you love and he therefore tried everything (including setting unrealistic boundaries) to try and make the relationship work. Should he have borken up with her? YES! Can you blame a person in love for making the not-so-smart decision? No.
amanda's whole point with this thought is that the "rules" he lays out are insane and toxic and that IS toxic behavior and the correct solution here is to break up. not to attempt to control and dictate your partner. op is ABSOLUTELY in the wrong and amanda sees that but the bf is also in the wrong to respond with toxic controlling behavior instead of breaking up with her
3rd story: honestly the rules sound ridiculous cuz to me, the man knows she wont follow them and is telling her in another "we're completely done" Also Amanda. The girl cheated and went back to talk to the man she cheated with, yeah of course the guy is going to be incredibly untrusting of her.
If the roles were switched Amanda would be calling the girl a hero for setting boundaries and the man would be a villain for betraying her trust and manipulating her. Shameful responses from her.
I’m really glad the comments are more impartial than our crew today. No disrespect to them but clearly they were way to lenient towards the first girl.
Yeah I feel like they can be too lenient sometimes. Like I totally get why, we literally know nothing about the people posting these things and are just getting one version of one story in their lives. But sometimes they try to hard to see both sides of things when it’s pretty obvious that one person is in the wrong.
Probably for the same reason a lot of people ask what a woman did wrong to make her man cheat. People don't understand that the only person who is at fault is the cheater
my dad passed away in 2021 due to alcoholism. my dad ALWAYS got me something for valentine’s days. chocolates, plushie, or flowers. even a handwritten note. it’s precious and cute and shows daughters how they SHOULD be treated. it’s cute
In my country it's called the Friend's Day. It is the day to celebrate love and there are romantic traditions to it but platonic friendship is also very highlighted. And I love that.
Yeah, no. First couple, girl 1000% red flag. Immature response to the whole steak situation. Him cancelling the dinner? Reasonable, she's already blew all that money in steak. However him staying with her? Bro this whole thing shows her character as well. Yeah get out now bro.
I find it really funny how people can cheat and then try to reconcile with their partner who tries to repair their paranoia and be vulnerable about it, and have the other person go "Oh well, you're not enough, I found someone else while we've been together" and wonder why people have messed up views on relationships after breakups.
I know its been a while now since the announcement but hearing Shayne call Court his "wife" is so sweet and adorable. It still makes me smile to think that after all these years, Smosh has bought together these two in an awesome partnership 💛
Amanda’s takes are so shit, I’ve been cheated on twice, I practically ran myself into the ground trying to keep my partners happy, they still cheat, cheaters are self centered. It’s not our job to make sure we don’t get cheated on.
I like how no one is commenting about the journal one because of how insane it is lmao. But yes the third story of the cheater is hurting my brain, that girl is delusional.
It’s so bizarre because he never once thought ‘wow she doesn’t act like I imagined maybe she’s a different, I should back off or get to know her better. Instead of projecting harder onto her. It doesn’t sound like he even liked her as a person he just aggressively objectified her body.
@@marinmowers629 I wonder how he became so entranced by her. Like how can a human be so hypnotized like that to the point were he doesn’t even see how insane he is. I don’t get it
Third story: the boyfriend has suffered betrayal trauma. When she cheated it was a huge betrayal. The fact that he got back with her is something she should have been extremely grateful for. So when she basically betrays him AGAIN by rekindling a friendship behind his back, she should expect to be dumped. She knew that being friends with this guy was wrong, or she wouldn’t have done it behind his back. So honestly, his demands aren’t insane. They are what he needs for her to rebuild trust. If she were to comply with them, I think eventually he would relax them as trust returned. Even more honestly, she’s betrayed him twice. Learn the lesson and leave her. She isn’t ready for a committed relationship with him.
23:51 love Amanda but she’s definitely being way to lenient on this girl, yes the guys rules are too strict but the woman is purely a cheater and can’t be defended
@@jeonghanscheekbones she didn’t defend but she was definitely lighter on the cheater even asking about her past life while being so mad at the guy for setting rules (theyre was clearly an imbalance of empathy)
@@dollibubbs Yup and I would say the rest of the cast was a lot more reasonable. Amanda just really seemed to want to make it clear that she supports cheaters no matter what.
No I was thinking that the whole time like I didn’t understand the sympathy at the start til the end it was like she like repeated the pattern and girl was still like oh well maybe she’s going thru something like no… girl it’s always a Choice to cheat. She also strung him back in just to hurt him again and your still excusing it😂
I've always said, the scariest scary movies to me are the ones that are either based on real events or could be real, not fake monsters. The stalking one is absolutely spooky.
The takes on this show keep getting wilder and wilder. The flippant way Amanda was like "she doesn't like wagyu thats not important to her" but would it be different if she destroyed some other $200 thing. How could they ever side with the girlfriend? And she keeps saying the poor parents missed their French dinner. They could still go nothing was stopping them. He just wasn't taking them. Wild.
Exactly, like it wasn't hers in the first place. She has no right to destroy something he bought with his own hard earned money, it was something he cared about and was excited about. If she wasn't bothered / didn't want it, she could have said simple as and he could of had it all to himself. The cancellation was a consequence of her actions, plus the least 'punishment' she could have gotten.
@@Jeremy-hx7zj tbf with both the stories people are mad at she agreed the girl was crazy. I don’t really agree with everything she said but nothing was too judgmental towards the men
Amanda is just playing devil's advocate and literally does keep saying that relationships are complicated and that she can't really understand what people would be thinking to do some of this insane shit cause she has no personal experience with it. The hot seat is stressful and saying "yeah I agree" without giving a fresh take every story gets stale. At the end of the day they're here to share their opinions and tbh i see why amanda says what she says. It's a bit like Lauren on Two Hot Takes. Sometimes she plays the devil's advocate a bit too hard and gives people too much benefit of the doubt but they can acknowledge that yeah at the end it's like a wild wild situation from one person's perspective too.
Im confused how everyone in the comments are unable to see why the girlfriend might have lashed out. The boyfriend is obviously very controlling why are all of the comments disregarding that 😭
The stalker story is so terrifying. That level of delusion can quickly turn into rage and resentment. Im so glad he didnt have the mentality of "If I cant have you no one can".
Any woman: *does something genuinely shitty* Amanda: “ok but what if she’s actually a secret victim and it was the boyfriend’s fault all along!” The misandry is palpable.
@@AdderMoray The guy was a red flag but only when he tried to force her into his kinks despite her saying she wasn't interested. They were like he's sending fetish videos? Red flag. Sending those videos in a none red flag relationship could be the opening to having those very important talks about kinks and what's needed on both sides and what hard limits and what might actuallly be kinks for both of you. Felt diessapointed in the guys cause it felt like as soon as fetish videos were mentioned they were like freak get away fom him, rather than waiting to find out what part of the video he's lookng at and the reason why (Until the explanation I thought he wanted to be the cat given that the descripton was good boy ect.).
@@Abzify1yesss thank you, this is exactly what I was thinking from the start, of course when he started comparing her, saying he could get one of those girls or telling her she has to do things she isn’t comfortable with, he instantly turns into the biggest red flag, but sending your partner videos, photos, or even shit like wattpad novels to show them what you are interested in and open yourself up to them in that way can be very freeing and great for the relationship, a lot of couples watch pornography together to get ideas and shit, it was the instant “he sends his girlfriend cat girls? Red flag” for me
Immediately no. Amanda, he's the bad guy for wanting some nice steaks ? He even tells his girlfriend that he wants to talk once he's levelheaded and she doesn't reply. How can you side with the girlfriend and make the dude the bad guy in this scenario? Also "it's not that big of a deal for her" ?? that doesn't matter, she knew it was important for him. Not only that she says it's a waste of money, then willfully burns it ? For what ? He literally wanted to have a conversation
I think the thing she was objecting to was that the relationship had developed into a game of who could hurt the other the most and they were both playing.
I don’t think she was saying these things as for sure the case I think her point was that we don’t know what their relationships are like outside of this one little post. She wasn’t saying it was right to do but I think her point was we don’t know if it was a last straw of being treated really poorly regularly, as that type of thing does happen! Especially as there were some small details about the guys story and wording that were sus.. I think everyone is being way harsh on her in this comment section.. everyone has a little bias
The sad thing is that I fully believe that coworker story is fake, not because the coworker could act like that, but because the HR rep got fired, the police promptly got him 2-5, and that they ran a TV style sting operation with live bait to catch him on the kidnapping
Honestly true. I don't mind honestly because of how well written and interesting the story was. But it is 1000% a person very interested in writing doing a little side project.
Yea I thought it was also unusual that the police was monitoring her without her knowledge in an attempt to stop a kidnapping attempt. Reminded me of an episode of criminal minds or something
I believe it cuz if you go to the page, there are tons of photos of his journal that she uploaded. Now sure, she could've written all of them herself, but that's an insane amount of effort for a reddit post. I guess it's possible, but I wanna go with the more likely scenario
Amanda and Tommy’s expressions during the cubicle stories are sending me. They look like they want to evaporate. Also Shayne trying to keep his face cool while reading it. Also the calmness with which Shayne read about the attempting kidnapping was so wild
To whom it may concern: Thank you for the quick content warning with a time stamp to skip the story. This is the second time you've done it recently, and it's nice to see a quick bit of kindness to sensitive subjects ❤❤
@@haileytavares7143actually yeah it’s pretty reasonable for someone to think a light-hearted reaction video wouldn’t get into explicit descriptions about abuse and stalking. do you feel happy with yourself, leaving this comment? did you improve your life to complain about strangers you know nothing about finding use in content warnings? should we throw a party? should we invite bella hadid
4:34 “this is tough” literally how? She burned $200 steaks for almost no reason. She sounds like an immature little weirdo. If she’s upset about his garage project, talk about it, not burn the steaks? She doesn’t deserve a fancy dinner if she treats him like that
Yeah, I understood them acknowledging the whole “this is my house” thing as a red flag, and it definitely was, but her response being to destroy something he’d told her he was so excited about was childish and cruel.
Exactly. It’s the garage! Why are his plans for it so offensive for her to set fire to $200 worth of food? Torture den then maybe, but does she really need input in a garage renovation? It’s not a room used often
I think she said that because prior to her burning the wagyu, they had a disagreement on what he'd do to the garage and he claimed that it's his house and he can do whatever he wanted without considering any input from his partner. I think she just said that to say that there are problems all around with this relationship and that's the general consensus that was made between Shayne, Amanda and Tommy.
That stalker story was the creepiest thing I've heard in a while. I hope she is all good now, and let's pray he is still locked away or has left her alone
Guys. Red flags DO NOT just apply to the men in the relationship. They're so gentle about the girl, even when she is the problem and then so quick to label the guy as worse or stretch to make reasons he's just at fault. You cant seriously say, "Yeah she cheated, which is bad, but he's toxic." Or "Well, she doesnt care about his $200 steaks he's upset about and he probably isnt telling the whole truth."
Yeh I swear they are always wayyy more generous to the women then the men. Tbf it might not be the hosts faults cause I notice a lot of the stories they choose favour the women which I find odd seeing as reddit is primarily men but im not sure about that.
I like that they understand narrator bias and that most women in this type of scenarios are victims even from things that aren't part of the story, but acting like every time a woman does something bad there has to be an excuse is... really bad.
@@raymax_1071 Actually reading your reply made me realise what I think the problem is. Whenver its a women whose - lets assume in this scenraio - in the wrong, they will create information that isn't in the story based on their own lives. like oh I'm sure as a women she went through this or went through that. Where as with the guys stories they assume there lives are dandy outside of the story. To be clear I'm obviously not saying they are fuckin sexist or whatever, or that the gender of the person changes what outcome they make, just that the conversation getting there can be a bit sketchy sometimes.
“There’s no where to hide on set!” Thank god for Tommy because watching him desperately wanting to run away is the only thing that made listening to that post bearable. Holy crap what a psycho
> cheats
> promises not to cheat
> cheats
> promises not to cheat
> cheats
She's trying to reach the "least trustworthy person on earth" record
She really thinks he’s going to leave his wife for her, completely delusional
Carrie Bradshaw!!!!
Once a cheater always a cheater
@@chelsiruiz1886Yes, Carried Bradshaw. Took the words right out of my mouth. And then she married Mr. Big, the guy she cheated with when she was with Aiden, and then cheated again on Mr. Big with Aiden when they were already married. Toxic AF.
"an unimaginable situation" yeah I literally could never imagine finding myself doing that to someone
What I don’t get about the wagyu steak couple is that.. if she thinks he’s wasting his money on expensive food, why would you go out of your way to ACTUALLY waste it?? It could’ve still been cooked and enjoyed?? My god
Once steaks are bought and money spent, GF didn't care if they go to the trash or BF's mouth...
Amazing relationship 😅
She's crazy. That's why
For real!!! Based on the story alone and not making assumptions that girl is crazy
She should pay him back for wasting his money
Major red flag for the girl idk why Amanda and Tommy were defending her 🧐
first story girlfriend: "You're wasting money on expensive food 😮"
also her: *purposefully burns $200 steak*
OMG LITERLLY i was going to comment this. She's lowkey insane
WAS GONNA COMMENT THIS LOL
They both sound insufferable and should break up for that reason.
I can't believe how much they all sat on the fence about that story.
EXACTLY. That's what I thought! What the hell!
There's a further update to story 3: She left her fiancé for the guy at work and he actually is divorcing his wife (more like she is divorcing him)... But it turns out he was lying to OP and dating a bunch of other women as well as her. Is anyone shocked? OP apparently was.
OP is now back to saying she realises ex-finance was the love of her life. She reached out to him but he turned her down (good on him!). Apparently she has 'learned from her actions' and is 'moving on'.
Thank you for this! Not surprised at all, but I wish she actually would learn from her actions instead of just saying she has over and over and doing the exact same stuff
i thought you said “ update to the story :3 ”
The boyfriend in the second story randomly confessing that he cheated on her with 2 different women absolutely FLOORED me
"But you're the one!"
"Which one??"
"He wasn't happy in the relationship" at least that's there logic when the girl cheated with a family friend
@@stevenreed6789 dude, why are you acting like they defended herz when it's very clear they didn't. they gave an explanation on why she would do it again and why the dude should just break up with her for his own sake.
@@stevenreed6789That comment isn’t them saying it’s okay, it’s just stating a pretty common fact cuz that often is the reason people do it
It’s completely wrong and not the way people should deal with their unhappiness but people can be dumb
Tommy Lee Jones is CRAZY 😭 That man is 70 something
The dad's Valentines gift is so sweet. The BF is weird for putting anything other than family love on it.
Yeah. The bf is the creepy one.
I’m 34 and my dad still sends my sister, my mother and, me flowers.
My mom gives me, my brother, and sister candy and card every year for Valentine’s Day there’s nothing wrong with it
Yeah it's so normal for my father to get me and my siblings gifts for Valentine's day. In fact, every family I know does that. The bf is the odd one out
My dad used to give me chocolates every year for Valentine's, it's just a nice thing
For the stalker guy, had he kidnapped her, he 100% would’ve SA’d her under the delusion that she was in love with him. It also very likely would have turned to murder if she ever convinced him that she wasn’t in love with him or if he decided that if he couldn’t have her, then no one could. I’m extremely glad that the OP was able to get out of that situation and move before anything happened. And that she had some incredible therapy and has, hopefully, come out of this relatively okay.
^yep, when i had a stalker that is precisely what he told me his plans were when discussing his desire to kidnap me
Yep, pretty sure I’ve seen this episode of Criminal Minds. If she didn’t play into his delusion it would for sure make it worse, and if he ever got her alone it would for sure end up with her dead. She may not be willing, but her dead body will be (grossest thing I’ve ever written, but it’s the sick truth) as well as any poor unfortunate woman he would take to be her replacement if she fails. So horrifying.
Yeah, the guy sounds exactly like Joe from You. Builds up the fantasy and infatuation for the girl. Believes she loves him too, but the second their alone and she isn't either his fantasy or in love with him, he'll either lock her away or just straight up kill her.
that guy is literally the main character from You
@@cascadeblue9that’s what I said. I was like this is “You” irl. So scary.
Destroying a $200 item that your partner bought is always a red flag regardless of whether you think it is a stupid item
Yes, especially something that he’s so obviously excited about. We know she’s not interested in it, and that’s fine. Couples don’t need to be interested in the same things, but you should at least have respect for what your partner cares about. I love hearing people that I care about talk about things they’re passionate about, even if it’s not my interest, so destroying something he was so excited about is just unimaginable to me.
@@isthisfood523And for the Smosh group to just completely gloss over that? They didn’t care that the steaks were special to the OP, they only cared that the girlfriend had no interest in it.
@@kitcobb6046to be fair, at around 7:00, the other two kinda were like uhhhh when she tried to justify it
@@bobjones42069bro they are just defending the girl it’s crazy😭
Their whole relationship is a dumpster fire.
“I’m happy to say i never cheated since then and haven’t been tempted at all”
Lmao lets all clap for the cheater gf yall. She did the bare minimum.
And then she does again shortly afterwards. She could not even do the minimum
😂😂😂 the tooo proud of her self!!
@@justarjen "I've made good progress. I think I've earned a little cake."
right, what a piece of work 😭
Agree. The common bare minimum was like some hard ass work for her . Don't blame the man if he has a list of things because he doesn't want to get hurt nor fool again. He has trust issues because she has lying issues . Period.
He gave her ONE BOUNDARY “don’t talk to this guy you cheated on me with” and she couldn’t even do that…. He is FULLY DELUSIONAL to think she’ll follow a LIST 😭 it’s honestly really sad
could be wrong but I think that's kind of the point. He's not saying you have to do these things He's saying you have to do these things if you want to be in this relationship with me anymore - and I think pretty much the only answer he could expect or that she should give would be no.
@@play-foolyes that's how I saw it. Or at least I hope so. I hope he respects himself enough not to be with this awful woman
I'm amazed by how these people twisted the story to blame the guy and she hulk kept blaming the guy 😂 one boundary 😂 and he's a toxic fiancé and he's restricting her. They're simply biased. Reverse the roles none of them would say of maybe the guy's unhappy, if a guy cheats they're like oh he's a piece of shit but if a woman does that they're like oh maybe she's not happy
Athenq p what are doing in my comment section?😮🤣
@@abieggleton7045unfortunately he does not 😞
I like how during the reading of the stalker entries, Amanda and Tommy momentarily paused their horror to acknowledge how good the OOP's outfit was.
Amanda: Cute?
Tommy: Cute! 😊
Amanda is the queen of saying "this is sooo complicated" to situations that are so very much not complicated
Ikr but I think it most of them they like to pick one side in the argument and try there best to make it seem like the other side is the problem and I'm not saying that sexist but it's usually a guy they try to blame
@@twinclock1713 oh no you're a hundred percent correct. They hold the men accountable for their disgusting behaviour, but the women? Not so much.
She say that it's too complicated because she needs to do some mental gymnastics to make the situation favor women even when it's obvious they're in the wrong.
idk I think most situations, especially those involving hurt feelings within a relationship, are actually much more complicated than most people give them credit for
@@samsherwood8332 a lot of them are very cut and dry though. Both stories in the video are examples of cut and dry situations.
The dad sending flowers and chocolates is also teaching his daughter how to expect to be treated by other men in the future 👍🏻👍🏻
Came to say the same thing. And the boyfriend is threatened because he does not want to be the kind of man her father taught her she deserves. Glad they broke up
Exactly!
I moved out a couple years ago and regularly visit to buy my little sister flowers and chocolates. I swear, if her boyfriend thought it was creepy I'd be pissed. sounds controlling as fuck
@@PTwithKatiethis was my thought! Imo it felt like he thought it was less "creepy" and more he thought the dad made him look bad (or something of similar feelings).
it feels like he's upset that she has a relationship with her dad. Like he can't further isolate her
Shayne doing the ad read for Hellofresh and just casually mentioning cooking ”with my wife” warms my Shourtney heart ❤
I know! I squealed so loud😊
I also heard him saying GF at some point but I could've just not paid attention. I'm only in the comments to see if they are married
@@jessicagravelle3766 they are!
@@jessicagravelle3766GF was a quote from a reddit story, something like “my gf”
Oufff, absolutely warms your heart. 😍
I’ve never heard it phrased as ”empathy sometimes is the reason you ignore red flags” but that really struck me as quite eyenopening and somehow reassuring.
Not sure if it's accurate, but that advice makes me think it represents the "Freudian Excuse is not an excuse" trope
That's such a good way of putting it
Its the “they’re not a bad person they just need help and I wanna be there for them if they need support but theyre hurting me in the process” type.
Huge agree with shayne on story 1. Marriage genuinely changes nothing about a relationship, but moving in together changes your entire dynamic.
ESPECIALLY when it’s in a house that straight up belonged to only one partner until recently.
It’s toxic to tell your partner “it’s my house so these are my decisions” but devil’s advocate, it’s not easy to just give up ownership and freedom in the course of a couple of months for someone else.
@@thepeanutgallery9980
Yeah, even if it is your house/flat/whatever alone, you should turn it into a home for you both.
Then again: From the things and the way he told them it doesn't seem like money is a big issue (Casually Buying Wagyu, Owning a House, Planning to go fancy dining with family, being upset that the wagyu is burnt because he was excited - not because it was expensive...) AND it was just a garage project... like, how much time does she spend in the garage for it to actually affect her?
I get it if he wanted to completely rearrange living room, bedroom and kitchen, but the garage?
I love when Shayne acts like he's doing a huge name drop when he references a Reddit story from another episode.
I think they mean if you have to do this you need to just end the relationship. I don’t know why anyone would stay with a cheater PERIOD!!!
Story two: Some more context. That woman's mother used to be the gift giver who made a big deal about holidays, getting her son and daughter something every year. She died when OP was a child and her dad took over the tradition in her place. He sends her and her brother a Valentine's gift bag every year and has since their mother died.
Wow. This makes the boyfriend's attitude all the more shitty. Glad she broke up with that douche.
Yes, it's unfortunate this tends to get left out of readings because she only mentions it in a comment reply.
OMG can this man be MY dad please? What a sweetie. It's such a small thing to do, but the impact of love is clearly MASSIVE.
@@PenelopeAstony It really imo also helps explain why the OP was so initially thrown off. Not only is it a childhood tradition but her dad does the same thing for her brother so it never occurred to her to even think about it because there's nothing to think about.
This makes the boyfriend’s behavior all the more shitty
"We been together 6 years now and during the third year of our relationship I cheated on him with a close family friend. I had started taking him for granted and it became easy to cheat because I didn’t value the relationship. "
She cheated because she could, not because she's unfulfilled. "I didn't value the relationship" does NOT indicate that HE did anything wrong, and in fact purely points out that she saw a chance and took it. It's lame that they completely discounted the VERY FIRST paragraph.
Yeah. It’s one thing to feel unvalued in a relationship and your partner not listening to you or showing you that they care (even still I feel like good communication can solve that but) it’s another to just not care about someone.
Litterally, this is one of the first times I've been side eyeing Amanda her answers during the beginning were just so odd
She didn't value the relationship and wasn't fulfilled by the relationship is the same thing. And I'm pretty sure they said specifically that it's not his fault for that. Relax 🌴
THANK YOU. I agree, Amanda was strangely defensive.
ur so right the take on that story was actually wildd
About the first story, cancelling the dinner doesn't necessarily constitute revenge. After she destroys something important to him, just sitting down for dinner with her and her family like nothing happened is going to be very uncomfortable. He has every right not to want to be in this situation.
That's what I'm thinking! It's not revenge - it's the consequences of her actions!
And she was mad at him for "wasting money" after wasting $200 worth of food. So cancelling the dinner prevented wasting more money on an awful meal. Of course she got mad, because the money wasn't used on her like she wanted
They both sound bad in their own ways tbh
Absolutely.
And by destroying EXPENSIVE FOOD she just proved that it would be a waste to go to an EXPENSIVE RESTAURANT with her.
Also from the way he tells things, it does seem like he has quite some money and is sponsoring her...
Gotta be honest, destroying the steaks in break-up worthy to me. Personally, I don't really care about steaks, but OP clearly does. If a partner destroys something YOU enjoy just because they don't; just leave.
"When you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
awesome reference
Hell yea for BoJack reference!!!
That's actually a great quote, wow!
My favorite Bojack quote, hands down!
Omg I have never heard that quote and it is so good
Possibly an unpopular opinion on story 1: I think cancelling the birthday dinner at the high end French restaurant was a completely reasonable response. There's no sense in wasting money to buy high quality food that she's not even capable of appreciating (what she did to the steak proves that she can't - no one with an appreciation for good food could ever bear to destroy legit wagyu steak (at worst, you might cook it and eat it all yourself)).
Exactly. The gf wastes $200 worth of food (seemingly intentionally) and Amanda is like "but her birthday!!!" Canceling those plans were very reasonable, because why waste more money? Her takes are insane...
@@Djinneratorprobaly was planning on breaking up with her
I also saw it as perfectly reasonable for not rewarding bad behavior. So she's going to act like a spoiled brat and still expect a treat? HELL no. She wants to act like a child, treat her like one.
How's he gonna ban her from going to her birthday celebration with her parents? Without stirring up a huge confrontation at the restaurant@@akenohononiku916
oh no its a popular opinion the smosh crew are just fucking weird with their takes
Wagyu steak story: if OP had taken a fork to a brand new $200 makeup palette his girlfriend just bought because he was mad about something, she would absolutely lose her shit. She can’t act like burning the steak is a sane move, or like his reaction wasn’t warranted.
Even if it was just a 10$ steak that he was excited about, you just don't destroy your partners things. Especially not over such a minor conflict.
Because to be fair, it is HIS house and it was JUST a garage project. Like how much does that affect her? Is she spending her weekends in the garage or what?
@MrFox-xr9cc especially if he's the one paying and doing all the work for it. My wife already had a house before we got married and I would have never tried this. Especially after only a year of dating and 6 months living together.
@@DeadEye2956 exactly.
If they had responsibilities like children or were married for a longer time, sure this becomes a discussion for everyone, because it is money that could be otherwise well spent.
But after half a year of living together im not dictating my partner what to do or not to do with his money, as long as he is not going bankrupt or fueling an addiction.
The stalking journal honestly made me so close to being physically sick. That is so awfully gross
100% agree. I was floored and then my stomach started turning and I wanted to hit something
its truly the most disgusting, vile and sickest story ive ever heard em read on this show. this was a murderer's jounal notes before he ever came to be a murderer. that IS THE CLOSEST THEY GOT TO TRUE EPITOME OF (DARK) REDDIT. that was appalling
its so rare that something will provoke like, a physical reaction but that did it. jesus fucking christ
I have to choose to believe that it was a work of fiction and ragebait because the idea that there are actually people out there like that is fucking horrifying.
It was so hard to listen to. I had to pause it every minute or 2 to give me a break from it. So gross, hope she's living safely and has regained some sort of peace of mind
I really can't believe Amanda started her opinion on story three with "Of course what she did isn't right, but there are BIGGER issues here."
She cheated on him. Repeatedly. That is, overwhelmingly, the biggest issue here. Are there other issues? Sure? I guess? But not a single one of them is bigger than the fact she repeatedly cheated on him.
Like, playing devil's advocate for a woman who betrays her partner over and over and over and over with the mentality of "Well, she clearly isn't getting what SHE needs from the relationship" is baffling to me. If she isn't getting what she needs, she should leave. That's it. That's the *only* acceptable response to her situation, if she finds herself in one like that.
Not to mention, there is absolutely zero evidence that she wasn't "getting what she wanted." By her own admission, she felt like her partner was "perfect" and she repeatedly begged him not to leave her. So giving her some imaginary out is just .. kind of a bad take, frankly.
That take made me feel so icky. It reminded me of growing up fundamentalist and the excuses that would be made for men who cheated on their wives. “Well, what was SHE doing wrong? She must not have been making him feel fulfilled”.
Yeah Angela has pretty bad takes. Especially when it comes to women in these stories. She always has to defend the woman
@@gamelove0169came to the comments to make sure I’m not the only one that feels this way. I get the men are wrong in a lot of these stories but she will perform crazy mental gymnastics to go to bat for women in the wrong.
Amanda @@gamelove0169
Thank you! And she just wouldn't let up on defending this serial cheater. Kind of a legit red flag. 😅
The journal entries that got skipped over here are so unhinged I regret reading them 😭 that would’ve been terrifying for that poor woman to go through
could you give a tldr for those of us afraid to deep dive but still curious?
@@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202I don’t think a tldr will ever come close to capture the insanity of the entries 😫
@@_.hybrids._1680 oh geez, is it that bad? should I stay far away? 😖
@@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202incredibly delusional guy is convinced he and his coworker are destined to be together and gets arrested
Those can’t actually be real. Like right from the get go it seems like a joke. It’s way too extreme. No one is actually like that. Hitting every single creepy incel talking point at once? No way. Like the Mad Men comment. It would’ve been believable if he’d just left it at that”I’ll introduce you to great shows like Mad Men”. But adding the shit about what a model wife should be? Bull. Parts are probably real and there may have been a desk neighbor that kept a journal but the entries were 100 percent added to or altered to make them worse
Shayne reading a story from a site that often has updates: Alright, update
Amanda: gasps
Tommy: gasps
Me: gasps
Me: gasps
Me: gasps
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
I get so excited 😂 even on a rewatch of the episode
Look, I LOVE the campy villain energy of serving someone’s prized steak burnt like charcoal and responding “who me?” But for a real relationship?? Not mature. Not cool. Not ok.
Yeah that's a sitcom joke, you laugh at the absurdity of the action and dysfunction of the relationship. The whole plot of most sitcoms with a relationship at the centre is the couple doing anything but talk for ~15 minutes and then finally resolving things by talking them over at the end of the episode. In real relationships you should skip the part where you're not talking to each other.
THIS! in a movie or show, kinda funny... In real life?? YIKES 😬
This! if someone in Mad Men did that? Gold! Spectacular! Real life... not a healthy way to handle that
so well-said girlie. same
Right. Some Panto shit lmao. Not for real life 😂
Story 3: OP cheats with a family friend. OP begs for forgiveness and is tsken back. She then secretly rebuilds a "friendship" with the "friend". And now she wants to pull the victim card? Like, dude would be way better off just fumping her. But she doesn't deserve sympathy for being held accountable for her choices.
And then the updates, jeez. Some people should just stay single.
The leniency on the woman who cheated thrice vs the harsh judgement on the guy who had his personal belongings destroyed is insane
Yeah.. they were all very wrong for that
People pleasing judgments to dodge internet offense 🙄 scared of keyboard warrior comments. they’re NOT the only TH-cam reddit readers to be doing this over time.
The guy who had his belongings destroyed definitely wasn't a good guy but saying "my house" when it both of their home is not on the same level as destroying property.
@@blossomrouter4797 well he wanted to do something in his garage with probably his own money and she didnt want him to do that, and then because she didnt get her way although he texted her saying he wants to talk about it(maybe compromise although he has no obligation to do so) she burns his steaks whith no reason to do so whatsoever, they were his steaks that he wanted to prepare for them, he enjoys cooking and has never had them and was really really looking forward to it, if you dont get that you will never have a good relationship, the biggest nono to do is stomp on something ur partner enjoys or looks forward to
@@thefighternitro it was his house but their home, see they share the house no matter who owns it she lives there, and as I said they are both bad, you got to ->communicate
amanda: "can't touch the man closet"
tommy: "don't talk about my past"
happy pride month
Glad someone else caught that lol
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I missed this. When was that? time stamp?
Op cheated and destroyed her partners trust. It doesn't matter if it wasn't romantic because she still played around behind his back. If she can't reach those expectations then they need to officially break up and not continue the relationship. She put him in that position and now they're both showing toxic behaviors.
Totally agree, it’s so hard to trust someone again after they broke it multiple times and it seems like they both need to move on for the sake of their own mental health.
this is THE take !! the guy was toxic in his boundaries, but ONLY AFTER she absolutely destroyed his trust twice. yes, those boundaries are unacceptable to request and expect your partner to follow, and he should have just broken up with her. but that doesn't mean that she is justified in her disrespect towards him throughout the entire relationship
Very well summarized
@@maryooowoahhthe boundaries weren't toxic when the girl is begging to come back into your life
Agreed. It shows she can careless about the relationship but value the friendship more.
I love how Amanda went from defending the cheater to story 3 to immediately trashing all over that shit when it was revealed she cheated _a __-second-__ third time._
Yeah, it did make me laugh a little, to be honest. Amanda usually goes to bat for the women (not saying that's wrong, but she usually does have a longer leash, is a little more empathetic, from the female perspective) but by the end of this story even she was like "Just leave everyone alone! You obviously don't want to be married!" like, she just couldn't defend her anymore. 🤣
My first bite of wagyu changed my life and it was the walmart brand. If someone intentionally burned $200 worth of wagyu I would certainly not waste money on a fancy dinner for them. This also just shows she doesn’t appreciate that kind of food anyway.
Exactly
REALLL🗣
Exactly 🙌🙌
well... yea. the guy literally said she had never been a big steak enjoyer to begin with 💀
But you would also just broke off that 1 year relationship won’t you? But OP didn’t, he went straight to reddit to back him up
I feel so bad for that woman’s bf/fiancé. She strung that man along and wasted YEARS of his time to just leave him months before their wedding?! At some point you have to be real with yourself and what you feel and recognize that just because you love someone doesn’t mean you should be together and that that’s not enough. It sounds like she loved him loving her… if stepping away so many times was that easy. There’s no way she was truly both feet in, head over heels in love. Be real…
In this case it's accurate @@UnBesoDeCristal
Don't worry. She will leave the next guy (who was still married, but can't leave his wife right now because of finances. Sure, buddy) soon enough anyway.
Yeah there's no way this new guy is going to uproot his entire life after knowing her for only 3 months, he already even told her he's not divorcing his wife for her.
She's definitely only in love with the idea of being in love and will always chase those butterflies until she sees a therapist to figure out why she feels the need to before she hurts another guy.
@@aarons.2323 He will also leave her, too (if he even does leave his wife lol). They are both cheaters. They will never be happy with each other if they were to date.
To explain it simply,
She cheated physically,
And then she cheated emotionally.
The one-two punch.
The energy this trio radiates is so undeniably powerful. Mad Team Rocket vibes
Edit: LMAO THEY KEEP DOING THE VOICES
But which is Meowth, Shayne or Tommy?
I dont know almost anything about pokemon at all but i feel like shanye is the cat
Shayne is definitely Meowth
But Damien is most James coded
Amanda is SO jessie tho
a few points on story 3...
1. Shayne is absolutely correct. The previous relationship has to end to even consider a new one, and they should've been in couples counseling before even considering marriage or a new relationship to begin with.
2. 23:18 - 23:31 I hope this is just a misread of the situation. There is never a good excuse to cheat. There are never wider circumstances that make it okay to cheat over just leaving. If you aren't satisfied with *part* of your relationship, ask if you can open up the relationship. If not, then you need to just leave. It's not good for either person to continue a relationship where you're only satisfied by hurting your partner.
3. The demands are a lot. I understand why he has trust issues, but I don't think this is a relationship worth saving. She deliberately went behind his back to rekindle a friendship she knew would make him uncomfortable. That's all I really needed to know. He was uncomfortable for a valid reason, and she did it anyways. It reads as selfish and inconsiderate of her partner's feelings.
4. the updates... oh the updates... that poor, poor man.
On your 2nd point, I think even just asking to open up the relationship is a bad idea. If you're unsatisfied, you need to fix that before inviting another person into your mess. A cheater also cheats in polygamous relationships, because cheaters have something fundamentally wrong with them
@@dove2826I don't think all cheaters have something fundamentally wrong with them. Some can't escape an abusive situation and cheat to cope. That's out of the realm of this, so in this situation, this specific girl definitely has some kind of complex or mental issue related to trust, love, and commitment.
As someone who has known a lot of cheaters, one being my own father, I understand that sometimes it is a sign of abuse or trauma. That needs fixing, not condemning.
@@Thunderous333 Being abused is not an excuse to hurt another person. Nobody who is being abused by their partner would cheat on them. That would be incredibly dangerous. That's just not how it works. It's abusers that cheat, not the other way around. I say this as the only person in a highly dysfunctional generational family who has actually taken a step back to observe.
@@rachelstanger6079 Didn't say it was an excuse.
@@dove2826 i agree that trying to open a relationship in order to save it is trying to side step the real issues. If a partner doesn't respect you in a closed relationship, giving them more opportunity to disrespect you in an open one is just not the solution.
She crawled back to him begging for forgiveness then betray his trust by befriending your affair partner. Why even come up with rules. Break up
no fr. this girl doesn’t love or respect herself enough to not cheat. so weird 😭😭
I agree. No need of rules just remove the problem all together and move on.
I completely agree, it just seems like he doesn't value himself fully and only cares about trying to make her happy despite her not doing the same for him, so he tries to set boundaries while staying in the relationship and she still tries to paint him as the bad guy, she's a bad person and he is way to lenient probably because he's self conscious and doesn't fully care about how he feels and only cares about pleasing other people
@@cleversmosh I mean calling those rules "boundaries" is a crazy misuse of that word
Some people are truly desperate and see no other option… really, really sad…
I can't get over their response to the wagyu steak couple. There's no justification for burning it. Just because she doesn't care and isn't excited about it, HE was, and going out of your way to destroy something your partner is excited about will never be the correct or appropriate justification. She was entirely out of line and I don't care how bad he was during the argument, that's inappropriate. She should've just left if she couldn't stand him that badly.
They've covered once since releasing this episode, and they were more empathetic in that one. Amanda does tend to judge the dudes more harshly, and Shane usually matches the guests' energy. I can't comment much on Tommy's reaction though.
I think the worst part of the third story is that the cheater is the one that broke it off with the fiance. Even in her post about breaking up with him she just keeps saying that it's hard for her to do it and that she wishes she loved him. It's desperate and it's sad tk see that the fiance didn't get to really stand up for himself and kinda grow a backbone.
He's better off without her.
Yeah but it's like she broke them up 3 times and he didn't get to say no to her red flags
the journal story is truly horrifying, I've never felt so scared for a person in my life
Genuinely horror movie material, and the fact that it's real is terrifying.
I was begging the entire time for it to be some fantastical work of fiction. I’m not doubting its validity, but I can’t process something that horrendous being real
“I didnt cheat this time but im talking to the person i cheated on my partner with before, but idk why he doesnt trust me”
No self awareness at all, that one!
Lately the smosh cast in these reads have been giving so much benefit of the doubt to the person in the wrong, that it’s just straight up controversial. What do you mean the first guy is the ass hole bc he didn’t pay for an expensive dinner after his gf destroyed something he was looking forward to and spent a lot of money on. and why are they saying that she could have a reason that they just don’t know about yet. There is no excuse for her emotional abuse and manipulation. But lately Smosh has been doing this. I have not agreed with a majority of their opinions on some of these reads.
The wagyu couple. He’s 100% correct for canceling. She WASTED $200, but then wants him to be okay with spending MORE money on both her & her parents..?.. But he wastes money??
I would have went to the restaurant and leave everybody get steaks
Yeah I don't get their take on that one. Wasting food and money always makes me annoyed
This is my problem with Smosh Reddit stories. They tend to take the woman's side 90% of the time and try to paint the man as the bad guy
@@lavarelease2928 I was thinking the same thing... They only had this take just because of that. If the op was the woman and guy was the food waster they would have immediately sided with the op.
@@comfyfizz7124 Honestly, another example is their reaction to the third story about the girl who cheated
When Shane talks about empathetic people putting up with shit I was reminded of something amazing someone told me recently.
“You can understand the behaviour without excusing it”
This is now how I try to live my life!
yep, well said. I wrote about that in one of my comments pretty much. just because they're also going through something tough doesn't excuse your behavior. it's like that one reddit stories episode where the woman with cancer tells her husband she's going to sleep with her coworker whether he likes it or not, then gets angry at him when he says no because she thinks she deserves to have the hall pass after what she's gone through. like, just because you are dealing with cancer doesn't give you any right to blatantly cheat on your 20+ year husband with some dude you just met.
Very true. And in a smaller way, it goes the other way as well... Understanding and explaining something doesn't mean you're excusing it. Sometimes the comments on these videos think that every time they explore the other side, that is excusing it and invalidating the other side. While it can be simply about understanding. (Less important ofc than what you're saying, but kind of the other side of the coin)
I have a similar thing when people try to excuse themselves or other people being assholes based on the fact they’re mentally ill
I always say “mental illness is an explanation not an excuse”
Dad in the Valentine’s Day story set a great expectation for his daughter for what it feels like to be appreciated, BF just can’t handle that he’s going to be held to that standard.
To say "to her it's not that big of a deal" when talking about the steaks is a little wild to me. Just because you don't understand the value someone else puts on something doesn't mean it now has no value
And if they weren't that big of a deal to her why would she even bother with them?
@@vocasoti the steaks don't really matter to her but clearly money does and they cost alot of money, she got upset at him for wasting money and then wasted food and therefore the money spent on it. She is a hypocrite and doesn't even realise it
@@cleversmosh it feels like it was more about control than actually about the money. Especially with her fully expecting him to pay for a super expensive dinner for her and her parents
It does highlight *why* she did burn those, on top of wanting to hurt him. The woman obviously didn't understand the difference between what is common at a store and those steaks in particular. Which kinda just adds to the toxicity because it's like, okay, if *you* don't understand, that doesn't mean it's any less important.
@@ZariLutusThis. Her issues with control come up multiple times in the story.
The only reason he mentions it being his house is because she's trying to assert her opinion over his on how he spends his money on it. If it wasnt her house to begin with, then she hss no reason to have more say than he does, she's just trying to control how he spends his money.
Then we have how she responds to arguments. After their first argument, he calms down within a few hours and messages her reassurance that they'll discuss it again. Her response is to burn his steaks, again forcing the issue. When the second argument happens and she's the one facing consequences, se again controls the situation by entirely withdrawing and refusing to communicate.
That guy who was jealous of the dad sending flowers and chocolate - he’s trying to put a wedge between her and her dad. The first step in isolating her. Which is a common first step of (say it with me) an abuser. So glad she got outta there!!
That's a great point
That makes way more sense than him actually thinking there's something romantic involved in those gifts
i didn’t even think of that, that’s such a good take!
I’m so sorry, those rules aren’t a red flag. She cheated, she can’t be trusted. She rekindled their relationship in secret, she definitely cannot be trusted. So yes if she wants him back, she needs to do that. If she doesn’t want to, she leaves. And she should because he deserves better.
Those rules ARE a red flag, but. There's a difference between "this is a red flag against the relationship being able to continue in a healthy way" and "this is a red flag that you specifically are toxic and abusive". The cast was clearly leaning toward the former based on when and how they decided to throw the flag. Fundamentally setting rules like a curfew, check ins and access to all devices and accounts means that whether or not setting them makes you the "problem," without serious counseling for both of them and actual healthy boundaries, this relationship is doomed and can't ever truly be repaired.
It definitely is. The second you feel it's necessary to control your partner it's time to end it or get professional help. not make up nonsense controlling rules
Cheaters 👏 don’t 👏deserve 👏 second 👏 chances.
Well they definitely don't deserve third chances. But second chances depends on the situation.
Cheaters don't deserve rights
@@J.Blazerfr 😂
Depends, second chance in life with another person, yes. Second chance with the person they cheated on, absolutely not
@@chickensandwich8808I agree in theory. People who cheat with friends don't deserve 2nd chances IMO because there's no trust after that.
The “creepy gift” thing reminds me of people who calls out David Beckham for hugging and kissing his daughter. Some people can no longer live without s3xualizing affection.
The notion that someone who cheats is missing something is so bizarre. There are so many people who cheat just because they are entitled and test people like objects
In which case they are missing basic human decency
@@zrc1514 but nothing from the relationship
It’s not a notion, it’s psychology. Please look into attachment styles and how those can affect behavior in intrapersonal relationships.
both can be true at once
If they are missing something they NEED to communicate that
Man Shayne wasn’t lying when he said he grabbed the biggest red flags he knows, Amanda was blood red this episode
the third story, the guy has every reason to not trust her, 100%. but if youre at a point where you think those rules are a necessity for the relationship. it means the relationship means to end.
Facts. I feel for that guy, but you can't force loyalty.
I think it's a last ditch efort- they're outlandish on purpose. "If she's willing to accept THAT then maybe there's still a chance"
@@tomaszskowronski1406 i see it more as desperate copium because naturally if you love someone a lot, breaking up with them is your last resort. plus likely lack of self worth thinking the person should be forgiven a third time as opposed to finding someone else
@@byunrosie Both? Both.
24:08 Omfg don’t you dare bring up the “they aren’t happy so they cheated”, it puts the blame on the person who got cheated on. If you aren’t happy in a relationship then be an adult and break up or talk about it. Sometimes you are going to be unhappy in a relationship, it happens- that’s why you talk or that’s a sign you need to go. Dont make it messy and hurt someone just because you are to insecure to be by yourself.
It’s is straight up apologia for abuse
Agreed, personally. I think they were stretching their minds too much tryna understand the bad guys pov so not to be bias against them
@@RubyGeeScuderia I was already a little tick by their takes so hearing that kind of pushed me over lol. I don’t think they mean harm, but yeah there’s such thing as trying to stretch your mind too far (like you said).
Amanda is definitely that friend who gives their friends false alibis so they can cheat behind their boyfriend’s back.
TBF, Shayne DID say he brought the people with the most red flags… And he wasn’t wrong lol.
okay so my PERSONAL OPINION on the wagyu steaks thing is, its the same principle of the guys who throw away a womans dear mug collection, or the guys who order a salad for their date because 'you need to lose weight'. he was looking forward to those steaks for who knows how long, he presumably had the disposable money for it otherwise he wouldn't have bought them, (why would you buy 200$ wagyu if you can't afford rent, right?), what else could she potentially be throwing away or destroying for him. it's not necessarily *evil* but it has the potential to be a problem in the future. anyways, i'm probably looking too much into it
also i think they just shouldn't be together if they have such differing opinions on food, thats not gonna work out. the only reason they should be together is for the entertainment of others because i bet watching their relationship is like watching a car crash of a clown car and a prius
Facts
It's evil in the blind malicious intent. She did it because that was his thing, and she was mad at him. And she did it to the point where not only did she waste $200 to "prove her point", she also wasted *meat.* As in. She wasted why an animal was killed in the first place.
She is a certain type of evil to be that level of petty over a point you're not even consistent about yourself. Like the logic is wonky, because it's really not about the excuse she gave.
No, I agree. To me, it wouldn't have mattered if he spent $200 on clothes or spent a $200 gift card he was given, that money meant a lot to him if he felt it was worth spending it on something he would enjoy. The fact she so callously wastes those steaks shows how much she doesn't care about him and wants him to suffer by having to watch her burn the steaks. She wasted his money and took away something he would have enjoyed, knowing that it would make him upset. That, for me, is where I'd just end it altogether.
It is a completely evil act, full malicious intent knowing it would cause him hurt
I generally like Amanda, but I think she's better suited for the Reddit videos that are about super niche topics that are in her wheelhouse (such as the service industry or the true crime/horror stories videos) or topics that are more light-hearted/wholesome in nature. Because she had some truly out-of-touch takes this episode, especially for story #3. Honestly I haven't felt so icked by a cast member's opinions on a Smosh Reddit video since the "World's Worst Family?" video.
Shayne fighting for his life to rectify his coworkers wild takes in these videos is so funny, im watching this and getting increasingly nervous to hear amandas takes😂
So true! Feels like damage control sometimes hahahaha
Shes sometimes too empathetic for her own good
OMG YESSSSS
I do wish Shayne would sometimes more openly point out bad tales. I know he doesn’t like confrontation but sometimes direct action is a better approach.
@@nicoledekross3 only empathetic to certain people though. Clearly she has zero empathy for the man who got cheated on OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.
I think it's so weird how so many people are brushing over the OP in the first post saying he was willing to discuss the garage issue. Yes, it is sh*tty that he's holding that fact that they're living in his house over her. However, it's not like he was just dismissing that. He very plainly says he communicated with her that he'd like to talk about it. Just when he has a more even head. Which I personally don't see the issue with. The girlfriend jumped straight to being vengeful with steaks she knew he was excited about. That's an enormous red flag to me. That her first instinct was revenge after he said he'd like to still discuss the issue. I don't even see him cancelling the dinner as vengeful tbh. You don't get to do something very hurtful to your partner and still expect them to gift you something after you haven't even done the bare minimum of apologising 🤷🏾♀️ I guess I'm a red flag too.
Honestly i see both the things they did as things they did with the intention of it hurting their partner and once a relationship's hit that point it's just over
@@felixhenson9926
I don't think so.
I'm a very emotional person and need things to be sorted out and in harmony.
If my partner disrespected me, destroyed something - both emotionally valuable and money wise - would completely throw me off.
At this point i couldn't just sit down at diner with her parents...
Also: She didn't want him to waste money on expensive food, made that point very clear and showed, that she has no respect for fancy food whatsoever.
So since she doesn't respect fancy food AND doesn't want him to waste money, cancelling the reservation at the fancy restaurant is the only thing in line with her own logic...
“Everything’s bad; be scared all the time.” God I appreciate Tommy so much
Story 1: it doesn’t matter that she doesn’t care about it being Wagyu beef, or that it was just meat, what matters is that she intentionally destroyed something he spent a lot of money on before he could enjoy it. It’s the same thing as pouring out someone’s expensive bottle of perfume or spending someone’s $200 gift card or spa certificate. She intentionally destroyed something that he spent a lot of money on to spite and hurt him. I don’t blame him for not wanting to attend the fancy dinner now. This relationship sounds doomed and they should just break up.
Exactly. It's the lack of respect that's the problem. Not the steak itself.
If you have to like something in order to respect another's interests, especially a partners, you never developed mentally past 13.
Hell, it's not even about the price of it, destroying something of any monetary value that your partner cares about is not good
Don't fuck with the beef!!!!
@@gungle2595you’re correct, I agree with you; I just used items of equivalent value so that I wouldn’t get replies telling me I was comparing diamonds and lug nuts. Tbh, for me, it’s even more devastating when something handmade or sentimental is destroyed.
to me tho, it kinda felt like- it's not about the steaks, it seems with his original story this was her breaking point, she doesn't have any control in their home, money, etc and this gave her that, they are very unhealthy relationship clearly but idk- felt like it was her snapping, like especially because the og story has no details of her acting like this in the past, his way of telling the story, etc
idk maybe ivm projecting my own abuse history onto this but, i know i have had moments where ive snapped and said or done something crazy,
ngl the fiancé's requests one, i think most of the rules he gave are absolutely warranted given how badly she's hurt his trust, but given the rules, they just need to break up. like, the rules to me are just him giving her an out without having to break up with her
If it was roles reversed they would have had super different energy about it
I find they're too strict, almost psychotic. It's best they break up quick instead.
@@ricorojas1854sadly I feel like that’s often the case with these episodes. I love these people from the smosh cast, but they do let women off a lot easier than men in their judgement :/
He should’ve kept those rules…
The rules are a classic victim response of trying to regain control where control was taken away by his partner. He knows he can't trust his partner, but he chooses to blame himself for it and tries to fix everything himself. It's not a healthy mindset but an incredibly common one after someone is cheated on
amanda's bit about "telling someone that they can't have something, of course they're going to want to go for that" is missing the point. the issue here isn't whether she wants other people/experiences in addition to or instead of her partner, or why she cheated. it's that she broke his trust once, then after she worked with him to regain his trust, she knowingly broke it again and tried to hide it. and now she's upset because the consequences are worse the second time.
the dude should have just broken up with her instead of the list of demands, though, because you don't and can't really trust someone if you need more evidence than their word to believe them
It's easier said than done. The dude clearly wanted to try everything to make the relationship work. It's not easy to give up on someone you love and he therefore tried everything (including setting unrealistic boundaries) to try and make the relationship work. Should he have borken up with her? YES! Can you blame a person in love for making the not-so-smart decision? No.
Yeah, tbh some of amanda's comments on this one were NOT it lmao
amanda's whole point with this thought is that the "rules" he lays out are insane and toxic and that IS toxic behavior and the correct solution here is to break up. not to attempt to control and dictate your partner. op is ABSOLUTELY in the wrong and amanda sees that but the bf is also in the wrong to respond with toxic controlling behavior instead of breaking up with her
His list of demands were obviously a way to get her to leave.
I think they have Amanda on this podcast as rage bait for views as her takes are really always missing the point
The amount of hoops yous jump through to say the woman isn't in the wrong no matter what is crazy lol
3rd story: honestly the rules sound ridiculous cuz to me, the man knows she wont follow them and is telling her in another "we're completely done"
Also
Amanda. The girl cheated and went back to talk to the man she cheated with, yeah of course the guy is going to be incredibly untrusting of her.
Yeah, those rules seemed more like a punishment than an effort to rebuild trust. And it turns out that trust was never on the table...
That's what I thought about the rules too! A round about way of sabotaging and finalising the relationship
Amanda is definitely that friend who gives their friends false alibis so they can cheat behind their boyfriend’s back.
If the roles were switched Amanda would be calling the girl a hero for setting boundaries and the man would be a villain for betraying her trust and manipulating her. Shameful responses from her.
She was the one that wanted the relationship back, those were his conditions because there was no trust left but he still wanted to give her a chance
I’m really glad the comments are more impartial than our crew today. No disrespect to them but clearly they were way to lenient towards the first girl.
Yeah I feel like they can be too lenient sometimes. Like I totally get why, we literally know nothing about the people posting these things and are just getting one version of one story in their lives. But sometimes they try to hard to see both sides of things when it’s pretty obvious that one person is in the wrong.
right lol like whether she cares about wagyu or not they were still worth $200?
I agree, I felt it especially with Amanda’s thoughts on the first and third story
They are almost always very lenient with girls and kinda tough on guys imo, some more than others
And the third girl too. SHE cheated and Amanda still had the guts to say "clearly her needs aren't being met", like wtf?
How come when a woman cheats its all about what shes missing but a guy who didnt even do anyrhing wrong had the book thrown at him 💀
Probably for the same reason a lot of people ask what a woman did wrong to make her man cheat. People don't understand that the only person who is at fault is the cheater
my dad passed away in 2021 due to alcoholism. my dad ALWAYS got me something for valentine’s days. chocolates, plushie, or flowers. even a handwritten note. it’s precious and cute and shows daughters how they SHOULD be treated. it’s cute
As a teacher, I teach that Valentines Day is a day for showing appreciation to people
In my country it's called the Friend's Day. It is the day to celebrate love and there are romantic traditions to it but platonic friendship is also very highlighted. And I love that.
Yeah, no. First couple, girl 1000% red flag. Immature response to the whole steak situation. Him cancelling the dinner? Reasonable, she's already blew all that money in steak. However him staying with her? Bro this whole thing shows her character as well. Yeah get out now bro.
I find it really funny how people can cheat and then try to reconcile with their partner who tries to repair their paranoia and be vulnerable about it, and have the other person go "Oh well, you're not enough, I found someone else while we've been together" and wonder why people have messed up views on relationships after breakups.
fr it was supervillain level to leave the person who took you back for a new additional person you cheated with
I know its been a while now since the announcement but hearing Shayne call Court his "wife" is so sweet and adorable. It still makes me smile to think that after all these years, Smosh has bought together these two in an awesome partnership 💛
That lady that cheated twice is just a bad person. I hope she gets THERAPY!
And KARMA!
I hope the guy also gets therapy. Being treated like shit and going back is a big sign of little self esteem and self worth.
Amanda’s takes are so shit, I’ve been cheated on twice, I practically ran myself into the ground trying to keep my partners happy, they still cheat, cheaters are self centered. It’s not our job to make sure we don’t get cheated on.
I like how no one is commenting about the journal one because of how insane it is lmao. But yes the third story of the cheater is hurting my brain, that girl is delusional.
I don't know what to say about that story besides: ew, and Jesus Christ. That's insane and extremely unsettling.
It’s so bizarre because he never once thought ‘wow she doesn’t act like I imagined maybe she’s a different, I should back off or get to know her better. Instead of projecting harder onto her. It doesn’t sound like he even liked her as a person he just aggressively objectified her body.
@@marinmowers629 I wonder how he became so entranced by her. Like how can a human be so hypnotized like that to the point were he doesn’t even see how insane he is. I don’t get it
I have never yelled at my TV as much as I did during the third story. Wowsers.
Oh. And then the fifth story happened.
@@xelastarkly THAT STALKER STORY WAS THE WORST ONE!!
Third story: the boyfriend has suffered betrayal trauma. When she cheated it was a huge betrayal. The fact that he got back with her is something she should have been extremely grateful for. So when she basically betrays him AGAIN by rekindling a friendship behind his back, she should expect to be dumped. She knew that being friends with this guy was wrong, or she wouldn’t have done it behind his back. So honestly, his demands aren’t insane. They are what he needs for her to rebuild trust. If she were to comply with them, I think eventually he would relax them as trust returned.
Even more honestly, she’s betrayed him twice. Learn the lesson and leave her. She isn’t ready for a committed relationship with him.
yeah this one was tough to get through, have never been mad listening to their reactions before but this one.. wow
Eh, the parenting one was WAY worse. There were takes that were so bad, those hosts still haven't been invited back.
@khaleesireyna731 I gotta go back and check that one out, probably won't finish it if it rivals this one LMAO
@@Caz122 I will warn you, I had a hard time getting through that one with the takes... SOOOO bad.
@@khaleesireyna731 could you link to that one?
@@khaleesireyna731tittle?
23:51 love Amanda but she’s definitely being way to lenient on this girl, yes the guys rules are too strict but the woman is purely a cheater and can’t be defended
Defending the girl in the third story at all was a WILD fucking take ong
amandas takes are unhinged
I'm sorry but if you took that as 'defending her' then you have zero reading/listening comprehension
@@jeonghanscheekbones she didn’t defend but she was definitely lighter on the cheater even asking about her past life while being so mad at the guy for setting rules (theyre was clearly an imbalance of empathy)
@@dollibubbs Yup and I would say the rest of the cast was a lot more reasonable. Amanda just really seemed to want to make it clear that she supports cheaters no matter what.
No I was thinking that the whole time like I didn’t understand the sympathy at the start til the end it was like she like repeated the pattern and girl was still like oh well maybe she’s going thru something like no… girl it’s always a Choice to cheat. She also strung him back in just to hurt him again and your still excusing it😂
First story: she knew it was important to him and destroyed it just because.
Exactly, it's not about the steak, it's about destroying something he cared about to hurt him.
I've always said, the scariest scary movies to me are the ones that are either based on real events or could be real, not fake monsters. The stalking one is absolutely spooky.
The takes on this show keep getting wilder and wilder. The flippant way Amanda was like "she doesn't like wagyu thats not important to her" but would it be different if she destroyed some other $200 thing. How could they ever side with the girlfriend? And she keeps saying the poor parents missed their French dinner. They could still go nothing was stopping them. He just wasn't taking them. Wild.
Exactly, like it wasn't hers in the first place. She has no right to destroy something he bought with his own hard earned money, it was something he cared about and was excited about. If she wasn't bothered / didn't want it, she could have said simple as and he could of had it all to himself.
The cancellation was a consequence of her actions, plus the least 'punishment' she could have gotten.
Amanda has a habit of doing this. I don't think she really likes the idea of holding a woman accountable for toxic behavior towards a man
@@Jeremy-hx7zj tbf with both the stories people are mad at she agreed the girl was crazy. I don’t really agree with everything she said but nothing was too judgmental towards the men
Amanda is just playing devil's advocate and literally does keep saying that relationships are complicated and that she can't really understand what people would be thinking to do some of this insane shit cause she has no personal experience with it. The hot seat is stressful and saying "yeah I agree" without giving a fresh take every story gets stale. At the end of the day they're here to share their opinions and tbh i see why amanda says what she says. It's a bit like Lauren on Two Hot Takes. Sometimes she plays the devil's advocate a bit too hard and gives people too much benefit of the doubt but they can acknowledge that yeah at the end it's like a wild wild situation from one person's perspective too.
Im confused how everyone in the comments are unable to see why the girlfriend might have lashed out. The boyfriend is obviously very controlling why are all of the comments disregarding that 😭
I love Amanda but her takes on relationships are always wild. What in the actual fuck
Yea she definitely makes me wonder how her own is 💀
@@Kriplingpowrhonestly from her inexperience with all the bad stuff. Probably great tbh.
@@crunchevo8974my exact thoughts lmao
59:59 okay, so I think that OOP got the journal as evidence *✨DURING✨* the court case for the restraining order
The stalker story is so terrifying. That level of delusion can quickly turn into rage and resentment. Im so glad he didnt have the mentality of "If I cant have you no one can".
Shayne's "..And that'll last!" At 32:33 absolutely KILLED ME. I was dying of laughter omfg
Amanda on cheater: "Well, something was missing."
Amanda on guy sending girlfriend videos: "Walking red flag."
(That dude is absolutely a walking red flag, but it is insane to give the first one some kind of justification)
Any woman: *does something genuinely shitty*
Amanda: “ok but what if she’s actually a secret victim and it was the boyfriend’s fault all along!”
The misandry is palpable.
@@AdderMoray The guy was a red flag but only when he tried to force her into his kinks despite her saying she wasn't interested. They were like he's sending fetish videos? Red flag. Sending those videos in a none red flag relationship could be the opening to having those very important talks about kinks and what's needed on both sides and what hard limits and what might actuallly be kinks for both of you. Felt diessapointed in the guys cause it felt like as soon as fetish videos were mentioned they were like freak get away fom him, rather than waiting to find out what part of the video he's lookng at and the reason why (Until the explanation I thought he wanted to be the cat given that the descripton was good boy ect.).
@@Abzify1yesss thank you, this is exactly what I was thinking from the start, of course when he started comparing her, saying he could get one of those girls or telling her she has to do things she isn’t comfortable with, he instantly turns into the biggest red flag, but sending your partner videos, photos, or even shit like wattpad novels to show them what you are interested in and open yourself up to them in that way can be very freeing and great for the relationship, a lot of couples watch pornography together to get ideas and shit, it was the instant “he sends his girlfriend cat girls? Red flag” for me
39:26 we don’t want tampon Shayne 😂😂
Immediately no. Amanda, he's the bad guy for wanting some nice steaks ? He even tells his girlfriend that he wants to talk once he's levelheaded and she doesn't reply. How can you side with the girlfriend and make the dude the bad guy in this scenario? Also "it's not that big of a deal for her" ?? that doesn't matter, she knew it was important for him. Not only that she says it's a waste of money, then willfully burns it ? For what ? He literally wanted to have a conversation
also her saying that she might have had a reason to cheat.... Yikes all around. Red flag.
couldn't agree more, she was definitely off the mark here
I think the thing she was objecting to was that the relationship had developed into a game of who could hurt the other the most and they were both playing.
I don’t think she was saying these things as for sure the case I think her point was that we don’t know what their relationships are like outside of this one little post. She wasn’t saying it was right to do but I think her point was we don’t know if it was a last straw of being treated really poorly regularly, as that type of thing does happen! Especially as there were some small details about the guys story and wording that were sus.. I think everyone is being way harsh on her in this comment section.. everyone has a little bias
I thought I was going insane when I heard Amanda defending such egregious behavior and I'm so glad many have called her out on it.
The sad thing is that I fully believe that coworker story is fake, not because the coworker could act like that, but because the HR rep got fired, the police promptly got him 2-5, and that they ran a TV style sting operation with live bait to catch him on the kidnapping
Honestly true. I don't mind honestly because of how well written and interesting the story was. But it is 1000% a person very interested in writing doing a little side project.
Yea I thought it was also unusual that the police was monitoring her without her knowledge in an attempt to stop a kidnapping attempt. Reminded me of an episode of criminal minds or something
lol that was the thought I had at the end of that one. Cops taking stalking seriously? Are you from some really rich/influential family…?
I believe it cuz if you go to the page, there are tons of photos of his journal that she uploaded. Now sure, she could've written all of them herself, but that's an insane amount of effort for a reddit post. I guess it's possible, but I wanna go with the more likely scenario
Amanda and Tommy’s expressions during the cubicle stories are sending me. They look like they want to evaporate. Also Shayne trying to keep his face cool while reading it. Also the calmness with which Shayne read about the attempting kidnapping was so wild
Dude, the creepy journal entries are literally YOU from Netflix...it's not supposed to be attractive, it's scary af
To whom it may concern:
Thank you for the quick content warning with a time stamp to skip the story. This is the second time you've done it recently, and it's nice to see a quick bit of kindness to sensitive subjects ❤❤
>clicks on video titled red flags
>OH NO ABUSE HOW COULD I EVER OF GUESSED THIS WITHOUT A WARNING 😮😮😮😮😮
@haileytavares7143 no need to be rude. This person's comment has no effect on your life.
@@haileytavares7143actually yeah it’s pretty reasonable for someone to think a light-hearted reaction video wouldn’t get into explicit descriptions about abuse and stalking. do you feel happy with yourself, leaving this comment? did you improve your life to complain about strangers you know nothing about finding use in content warnings? should we throw a party? should we invite bella hadid
@@haileytavares7143 big red flag in this comment
It's so nice of Marilyn and Julie to take time away from wreaking havoc in a hardware store to sit with Papa Shayne.
4:34 “this is tough” literally how? She burned $200 steaks for almost no reason. She sounds like an immature little weirdo. If she’s upset about his garage project, talk about it, not burn the steaks? She doesn’t deserve a fancy dinner if she treats him like that
Yeah I love Amanda but she missed the mark
Yeah, I understood them acknowledging the whole “this is my house” thing as a red flag, and it definitely was, but her response being to destroy something he’d told her he was so excited about was childish and cruel.
I think she means it's tough because the whole relationship sounds like a red flag. They both sound awful.
Exactly. It’s the garage! Why are his plans for it so offensive for her to set fire to $200 worth of food? Torture den then maybe, but does she really need input in a garage renovation? It’s not a room used often
I think she said that because prior to her burning the wagyu, they had a disagreement on what he'd do to the garage and he claimed that it's his house and he can do whatever he wanted without considering any input from his partner.
I think she just said that to say that there are problems all around with this relationship and that's the general consensus that was made between Shayne, Amanda and Tommy.
That stalker story was the creepiest thing I've heard in a while. I hope she is all good now, and let's pray he is still locked away or has left her alone
Guys. Red flags DO NOT just apply to the men in the relationship. They're so gentle about the girl, even when she is the problem and then so quick to label the guy as worse or stretch to make reasons he's just at fault.
You cant seriously say, "Yeah she cheated, which is bad, but he's toxic."
Or
"Well, she doesnt care about his $200 steaks he's upset about and he probably isnt telling the whole truth."
Yeah I felt like I was going crazy hearing their comments on the wagyu story
Yeh I swear they are always wayyy more generous to the women then the men. Tbf it might not be the hosts faults cause I notice a lot of the stories they choose favour the women which I find odd seeing as reddit is primarily men but im not sure about that.
I like that they understand narrator bias and that most women in this type of scenarios are victims even from things that aren't part of the story, but acting like every time a woman does something bad there has to be an excuse is... really bad.
Maybe you’re right, but for that part of the video I have to agree with them, the og didn’t seem to be a reliable narrator.
@@raymax_1071 Actually reading your reply made me realise what I think the problem is. Whenver its a women whose - lets assume in this scenraio - in the wrong, they will create information that isn't in the story based on their own lives. like oh I'm sure as a women she went through this or went through that. Where as with the guys stories they assume there lives are dandy outside of the story.
To be clear I'm obviously not saying they are fuckin sexist or whatever, or that the gender of the person changes what outcome they make, just that the conversation getting there can be a bit sketchy sometimes.
“There’s no where to hide on set!” Thank god for Tommy because watching him desperately wanting to run away is the only thing that made listening to that post bearable. Holy crap what a psycho