2 putter reviews in a row where Rick didn’t utilize the putt view mat in the studio. Regarding the suspicion that the putts were coming off the face to the right - doesn’t the HIT studio have a top-down camera that could have captured the direction from a better perspective?
Totally unscientific reviews but no use of equipment, very frustrating to watch as it’s basically useless info unless you enjoy an in depth look at ‘how Rick feels’ about the club
@@brocklanders1984I think you underestimate how much that actually means… Rick is a seriously good golfer, 100% should be using the putting mat and cameras etc for a full in-depth review but Rick is a pro and he has a different understanding of how it feels through the club and how it interacts with the ball, something not many of us would be able to understand or articulate when picking a new putter, it is not useless but could have been better
If you get clubs that are a year or two old you can get them for a manageable price. Last year I got a full set of M4 irons, a Callaway mavrik, 3 vokey sm8 wedges, and a scotty cameron special select Newport 2 for like $1500.
I feel like it would be nice to have some studio testing plus on course testing for putters. Would be able to tell much easier about the alignment for example with the fancy putter system
For a small company starting out, I’m sure they have to charge higher prices to turn a profit. Cnc equipment is not cheap. Aluminum bar stock is not cheap. Grips and shafts are not cheap. Time and labor to build one of those start to finish probably takes quite a few hours.
When comparing the two putters , all the balls with the indi putter were within a couple of inches of each other. The oddesy putter , the balls were quite some distance apart .
We can thank Lab putters for the price of normal putters, not handmade Scotty Camerons, going for $500+ going forward. This putter in the video is a really cool looking one with the weights on the toe and heal. The logo needs to be completely redone though.
I bet if you got 10 completely blank putters from 10 different companies in 10 different price ranges, 99% of golfers couldn't tell\feel a difference between any of them.
I think the light head and weight being on the outsides means that the outside weight is slowing the ROC of the face as you putt. It might suit a more straight back and forward style but not an arc? Might be why you were missing them right.
I've used off the shelf's putters for most of my golf career. Bought a Ping blade putter off a coworker for $50, used that for a few seasons but my putting was horrible. Bought a used Scotty Newport, used that for a few seasons and my Yips were worse than ever. Bought a brand new ping mallet adjustable putter and used it for 3 rounds.Last season bought a $20 Odyssey 2 ball off of ebay and now found my putting stroke and my confidence is much better.
I think putting all comes down to what you like. Myself I like smaller putters like a blade with a thicker grip and milled face or a face with good grooves. Idgaf what the brand or price is since it's all about how it feels. The putter could be a big lots clearance putter as long as it feels good when I swing it
Putting just comes down to confidence. If a $15 garage sale putter feels good and is confidence inspiring to you, it'll do better than any expensive putter.
I’ve been using the same Ping Anser since I started playing about 5 years ago. It cost about 30 dollars. It has essentially the same shape as any blade putter you can find out there. When I hit bad putts, I know it and it’s not the clubs fault. I’ll likely never buy a new one because everything I know about putting has been learned using that putter. It doesn’t matter how much “technology” is in a putter, you’re either a good putter or you’re not.
Find out what your stroke is and what the putter you have is designed to do if it’s heavy toe hang and you have a straight back straight through stroke it’s no use to you
Rick, you should always do a quick shot comparison with other clubs like you did with the Odyssey. Really helps us understand the club performance better.
Thanks Rick for the review. It is funny to me that people throw a fit about a $500 putter yet blindly purchase the latest and greatest driver at $700+. The putter is the most important club in the bag.
Would love to get your opinion Rick on the new Taylormade SpeedSoft Ink ball. Historically, as 5 handicap, I've played the TP5x or ProV1x. Looking online at the Taylormade site and saw these and was intrigued enough to order a dozen at $24.99/dozen. Two rounds in, I am impressed. They are very soft off the putter face yet still can get out there close to 300 yds off the driver. They seem to spin less than the TP5 or ProV1 which for me at least helps on distance control. Plus, the splash design is very cool.
As far as that putter coming off to the right........ is the grip on straight? Do you have a putting laser that checks the flat part of the grip is perpendicular to the face? Something as simple as a crookedly installed grip is enough to make it do that.
The prices for these putters is insane! For any putter $300 or more, the ball needs to magically go in on the first putt every time. I'm playing with a set of Cobras right now that I paid less than $600 for the whole set and I've made plenty of 15' putts and longer.
$479!! What ever happened to an unknown brand coming in, undercutting the most established brands, building their own customer base, and then robbing us blind. If im spending that sort of money, im buying a Scotty. Years of R&D, and you know what you're getting. This is a $479 gamble. Build your brand first, not just "Let's send it to Rick Shiels"
Love the reviews Rick. 👍 One suggestion: for all the clubs you review, you should play a BREAK 75 with. Every round is a new bag. The only real test is out on the course. 😁
I like the review. I know you're playing this putter now. I'd be interested to give it a try. I'm looking more towards Lab putters but...... Rick saying it's better than a Scotty? Must be good!
Putters is the one thing I don't understand the price increase in. I bought my ap1 710 set for 450€ or 500€ back in 2011 as the outgoing model at my club in a fitting, what did they cost new 650-700€?. A new set of G430 cost around 1000-1100€ . Sure more expensive but inflation wise not THAT much more. and last years G425 is about 550€ A driver costed 200-250 back then and now 350€ for about the same Putters though is bonkers. I payed 140€ for my ping anser d back in 2012. A new anser is 350€....basically the same putter, that IS crazy.
I think prices are increasing on putters due to players tending to keep a good putter in the bag longer because technology really isn't making a major difference year to year. That means you need higher prices to offset the lower amount of sales. Also, almost all top end putters are milled now and milling is a drastically more expensive process than casting. That would be my guess as a person who has only had 2 putters over the last 10+ years and plans on having my current one in the bag for the foreseeable future.
@@jameszaimes7407 sounds probable. I will probably change my old ap1 clubs if I play more than two rounds a year. But I will not replace my special putter for a long while, Don’t see the point. It goes straight, there is no distance to be gained and less risk if shit hits than an iron where forgiveness is a point.
@Infigo96 exactly, and people who are the main consumers in the industry usually change irons every 2-3 years and drivers, oftentimes yearly. I used to be a club fitter and I would often do a full bag fitting with customers who had clubs from 2 years prior yet had a putter from 10 years prior and we usually didn't change that out.
I play an Odyssey mallet that I bought 30 years ago (along with the rest of my clubs) and always loved the weight, sound and feel of the putter. God bless a softer insert! I wish I could have seen a little more on the alignment marks and head design of the indy just to see if there was something to it to provide a few more checkpoints. My gut tells me there is more than a simple blue line if they are bragging that much about “ease of alignment”. But maybe not. Maybe it’s just another overpriced blade type putter.
Also when they say a miss, I think they are still expecting the miss to be within let's say for example the face insert area of the Odyssey putter, or the groove area of an Evnroll putter, not the extreme toe and heel.
When it comes to putting it is always the Puttee not the Putter that makes the difference. Get what feels good to you and gives you the most confidence and you will hole more putts.
The biggest difference I've ever seen with a putter is of the shelf vs getting fit. A fit putter makes putting noticeably easier. Probably the easiest club to be fit in to.
Need to break out the Evnroll er2 I have the cs and that drill it destroys imo. Thank you for that video years ago. Been in the bag since I ordered it the day the video released.
Rick, test the putter on GC Quad at 32ft. I discovered my replacement putter grip was NOT on square! After 20-30 putts, you will absolutely know if this putter is left, center, or right.
Rick, please do a campaign to get all those unused golf clubs out of peoples garages and cupboards and in to the hands of new golfers!! How about hooking up with the golf unions and golf clubs to offer ‘Golf Club Amnesty to support beginners’ or ‘Free Your Golf Clubs’. Idea would be that we hand in unused clubs to the nearest local golf club and then they can be sold for minimum price to support grass roots golf. Golf for the people!!!
Not to be that guy, but if Rick wanted to get clubs in people’s hands he’d empty out his massive collection of clubs that he’s been sent that just sit in a closet, maybe have been used for a single review video, and sit there being wasted. He’s done a video on his storage room. Hundreds of sets of irons, drivers, putters and more that go completely unused
Rick can you do the new never compromise putter from Dunlop/srixon/Cleveland I’m interested in one but I have not found a place to try it and the reviews are limited out there
It's interesting to me to see the so-called "tech" in putters these days. I remember about 40 years ago my Mother bought a new putter for my Dad as a gift, and it had a "high moi" design to it with extra weight in the heel and toe, pretty much exactly like this putter. There is nothing new under the sun, I guess. Oh, and as for the putter itself -- my Dad HATED it with a passion! LOL
I think you should test out the L.A.B df3. 2 rounds so far and my average for my last rounds was 1.83 vs my normal 2.25 per round. Toe hang scotty over to a L.A.B df3.
I feel like he’s never going to because it’s not traditional and once he goes lie angle balanced he’s not going to be able to give traditional putters as high of marks
He did the forgiveness test against ai one, those are no joke forgiving so good on indi to tie. I got the cheaper blue ai one in a blade and it’s more forgiving than my mallet putters.
As you hit more shots with a putter than any other club surely if its well made and you find a putter that suits your game the cost will be worth the investment?
The prices on the web site are comparable with any premium putter, sorry you went for a Ping 2k fitting and the putter went rusty in 1 round. I wouldn’t buy one because i love the putter i use, but if i was in the market, i would research them. We use putter more than any other club, and pay less attention when buying one. Ultimately i use an old TM spider, on tour you see so many pros using them, when my pals try my putter, off they go to eBay buying an old spider, you can pick them up for £50-£100, and they will hold their price.
You would never be able to replicate the swing speed and impact force over and over enough to know whether it matters - however that also belies the evidence that it matters that much too.
Omg big fan of your work Rick. I am playing card collector. I need those playing cards lol. Or some kind of club, which ever you fancy lol. Keep up the great work my guy.
I putt with an old Ping 1A that I bought used in the early 2000s. I have tried other putters (including my dad's SC) and I really don't see a reason to replace it, definitely can't see dropping $500 on this.
40 years ago my mate bought a fancy heel toe weighted putter at Bolton muni, black and gold, I forget the brand. I stuck with my my ping pal until the seat broke. I putted better, I’ve had 5 putters in 45 years of golf. Gave one to my dad. It’s not the putter…..
When are we gonna get a Good Good putter review?? It was teased a few years ago when they came to visit but I don’t think it event came out! They have so many now it would be great to get your opinion!!
I feel when it comes to putting its not so much which putter, it's the putter that makes the difference. Easier to say, it's not the putter, it's the putter.
If you practice putting 10 hours a week plus 30 minutes prior to each round, and play a lot of golf, then 500 isn't outrageous for a putter you really like. I don't do any of that so my Condor Marksman Balata Putter is good enough for me. 5 bucks.
The golf club industry and the prices are a sham. Get a club, any old lump of metal, practise with it, over and over, see how it performs in your hands, adjust accordingly and stick with it. There simply ain't no magic bullet. The more you change, the more you gotta practise and adjust.
From a tech perspective, stuff like this will save you strokes. Scotty’s will cost you strokes. But people buy Scotty’s to show off, not to shave strokes. For me, if I want you to shave strokes I’ll stick with the original 2 ball, but because I like it, I play a 90’s anser 2.
The putter should be the club you spend the most money on as you use it more than any other club in the bag. People pay £500 for a driver which they may only use 6 times in a round. Invest in your putter if it works for you!!!
Really appreciate the contents and bringing these brands to our attention but I was surprised you’d do a putter review and at no point discuss whether it was a good fit for you and your stroke . 🤷♂️ What’s the toe hang? How does it compare to your own gamer it terms of fit and weight?
Doesn't seem like much, especially for the price. So much of what makes a putter work for me is a combination of head and grip that adds up to the right balanced feel.
You use a putter more than any other club, so why not get fit and ignore price? It’s also a club that doesn’t wear out. Not to mention Scotty is no more expensive than ping PLD, Taylormade milled, Toulon, etc. and this indi putter costs similar to a Scotty in the UK.
at least my scotty holds some value, i can get it shipped back if it breaks, and i know its a nice quality putter. im expecting to play it the rest of my life. 300$ i paid for it new is worth that.
"aircraft aluminum" is always pure marketing speak. the most common and readily available aluminum grades are "aircraft" quality, as long as its solid and not some cast crap.
That’s a hell of a markup on something that cost $50 to produce…the cost of putters has gotten ridiculous and the fact of the matter is if you can’t putt in the first place a $500 putter isn’t gonna turn you into a great putter..buy the $100 putter and practice practice practice 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Everywhere in every industry has items at a crazy mark up, it's all to do with people's mind set naturally believing if something is expensive it must be good, it's our own fault for falling for it and making the purchases.
Why is it that we are so surprised that a putter costs around £500 when today's drivers cost over £500 and this excludes if you wanted an exotic shaft. We use the putter on every hole so why shouldn't the putter cost more if you use it more 🤷♂️🤷♂️
2 putter reviews in a row where Rick didn’t utilize the putt view mat in the studio. Regarding the suspicion that the putts were coming off the face to the right - doesn’t the HIT studio have a top-down camera that could have captured the direction from a better perspective?
literally what I was thinking...this information all seems a bit airy fairy when there is technical data to really give us an idea.
Was just about to comment this too, maybe Rick can do a second review in the studio
Totally unscientific reviews but no use of equipment, very frustrating to watch as it’s basically useless info unless you enjoy an in depth look at ‘how Rick feels’ about the club
Agree useless
@@brocklanders1984I think you underestimate how much that actually means… Rick is a seriously good golfer, 100% should be using the putting mat and cameras etc for a full in-depth review but Rick is a pro and he has a different understanding of how it feels through the club and how it interacts with the ball, something not many of us would be able to understand or articulate when picking a new putter, it is not useless but could have been better
Golf prices for clubs are disgusting
And yet plenty of people are happy to pay the price.
If you get clubs that are a year or two old you can get them for a manageable price. Last year I got a full set of M4 irons, a Callaway mavrik, 3 vokey sm8 wedges, and a scotty cameron special select Newport 2 for like $1500.
@@filecabinet827 wouldn't quite say 'happy'
Never buying new clubs is a must nowadays to not get scammed by these prices
Looks very nice but OMG that price is ridiculous
I feel like it would be nice to have some studio testing plus on course testing for putters. Would be able to tell much easier about the alignment for example with the fancy putter system
This! I was waiting for him to transition to the studio putting green to maybe get a better idea of the alignment
Im surprised they didn't also send a rep wearing knee pads.
😂😂😂 for real tho!!!
lol
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It's the same price as a Scotty! Both of them are a milled lump of metal. There are no wonder putter out there. It's what fits your game and look.
Right and my Scotty is Stainless Steel, not aluminum.
Lab are magic
I mean, a lot of the newer putters actually do have technology built within them. But if you can't putt, you can't putt 🤷🏽♂️
@@Michael.Sandoval33 I got a LAB and have gained 3 strokes putting compared to my old fitted gamer according to arccos over 15 rounds now
@@deanh891 I have tossed around the idea of getting myself a Lab as well. The price is up there but from all accounts, it is worth it.
For a small company starting out, I’m sure they have to charge higher prices to turn a profit. Cnc equipment is not cheap. Aluminum bar stock is not cheap. Grips and shafts are not cheap. Time and labor to build one of those start to finish probably takes quite a few hours.
When comparing the two putters , all the balls with the indi putter were within a couple of inches of each other. The oddesy putter , the balls were quite some distance apart .
Let’s hope it’s not Boeing aluminum.
LOL
All of that presentation and schmoosing… but the actual results….this is why we all come back Rick, thank you.
This putter spoke for itself. However, I won’t be paying more than 100 bucks for a putter ever.
We can thank Lab putters for the price of normal putters, not handmade Scotty Camerons, going for $500+ going forward. This putter in the video is a really cool looking one with the weights on the toe and heal. The logo needs to be completely redone though.
And you didn’t need a 2K fitting 🤔😁
Great point!
Still use the same ping zing putter I've had since I was a kid in the 1990's, it works just fine.
Putters are a load of shit. Putter is all mental and feel. There's no need whatsoever to get a $500 putter.
I’ve used the same ping Anser since I started, and I’ll probably use it until I stop golfing
If you can putt, you can putt with almost anything (within reason). A hybrid or the leading edge of a wedge. All this bull about putter tech ...
I used to have a ping zing 2 great putter I sold it when I stopped golfing for a while.
I bet if you got 10 completely blank putters from 10 different companies in 10 different price ranges, 99% of golfers couldn't tell\feel a difference between any of them.
Guitar case and keyboard case. Joan “Jett”, Ramones, Johnny “Cash”…? I’m sensing a musical theme with them
Anytime an over the top expensive product has to be tricked up with packaging or some other useless BS, I usually find an inferior product.
Yeah, I think the references got lost on Rick...
I think the light head and weight being on the outsides means that the outside weight is slowing the ROC of the face as you putt. It might suit a more straight back and forward style but not an arc? Might be why you were missing them right.
I've used off the shelf's putters for most of my golf career. Bought a Ping blade putter off a coworker for $50, used that for a few seasons but my putting was horrible. Bought a used Scotty Newport, used that for a few seasons and my Yips were worse than ever. Bought a brand new ping mallet adjustable putter and used it for 3 rounds.Last season bought a $20 Odyssey 2 ball off of ebay and now found my putting stroke and my confidence is much better.
I used a Scotty Futura X for a long time. Just sold it and got a Kirkland that I love. Putters are weird
I think putting all comes down to what you like. Myself I like smaller putters like a blade with a thicker grip and milled face or a face with good grooves. Idgaf what the brand or price is since it's all about how it feels. The putter could be a big lots clearance putter as long as it feels good when I swing it
@@stompingpeak2043 absolutely 👍🏌️
Putting just comes down to confidence. If a $15 garage sale putter feels good and is confidence inspiring to you, it'll do better than any expensive putter.
I’ve been using the same Ping Anser since I started playing about 5 years ago. It cost about 30 dollars. It has essentially the same shape as any blade putter you can find out there. When I hit bad putts, I know it and it’s not the clubs fault. I’ll likely never buy a new one because everything I know about putting has been learned using that putter. It doesn’t matter how much “technology” is in a putter, you’re either a good putter or you’re not.
Find out what your stroke is and what the putter you have is designed to do if it’s heavy toe hang and you have a straight back straight through stroke it’s no use to you
Rick, you should always do a quick shot comparison with other clubs like you did with the Odyssey. Really helps us understand the club performance better.
"I'm not going to be swayed by marketing. Now here is my in depth review of the headcover."
I've always used Odyssey and always will
But will it “Rust” like the Ping after using on damp grass? 😆
I will continue using my Ping, second, third or fourth hand Anser putter. It is paid for and I have been using it for over 30 years now. I like it.
My Anser is the only putter I’ve ever used and it does the job just fine
Thanks Rick for the review. It is funny to me that people throw a fit about a $500 putter yet blindly purchase the latest and greatest driver at $700+. The putter is the most important club in the bag.
Would love to get your opinion Rick on the new Taylormade SpeedSoft Ink ball. Historically, as 5 handicap, I've played the TP5x or ProV1x. Looking online at the Taylormade site and saw these and was intrigued enough to order a dozen at $24.99/dozen. Two rounds in, I am impressed. They are very soft off the putter face yet still can get out there close to 300 yds off the driver. They seem to spin less than the TP5 or ProV1 which for me at least helps on distance control. Plus, the splash design is very cool.
As far as that putter coming off to the right........ is the grip on straight? Do you have a putting laser that checks the flat part of the grip is perpendicular to the face? Something as simple as a crookedly installed grip is enough to make it do that.
The prices for these putters is insane! For any putter $300 or more, the ball needs to magically go in on the first putt every time. I'm playing with a set of Cobras right now that I paid less than $600 for the whole set and I've made plenty of 15' putts and longer.
Send putter to Rick to review….. Rick literally can’t hole more than 2 putts !
Awesome 😂👍
I know I am a few days late to the party, but I'm still using my YES Callie putter and love it.
$479!! What ever happened to an unknown brand coming in, undercutting the most established brands, building their own customer base, and then robbing us blind. If im spending that sort of money, im buying a Scotty. Years of R&D, and you know what you're getting. This is a $479 gamble. Build your brand first, not just "Let's send it to Rick Shiels"
Love the reviews Rick. 👍 One suggestion: for all the clubs you review, you should play a BREAK 75 with. Every round is a new bag. The only real test is out on the course. 😁
I like the review. I know you're playing this putter now. I'd be interested to give it a try. I'm looking more towards Lab putters but...... Rick saying it's better than a Scotty? Must be good!
Putters is the one thing I don't understand the price increase in. I bought my ap1 710 set for 450€ or 500€ back in 2011 as the outgoing model at my club in a fitting, what did they cost new 650-700€?. A new set of G430 cost around 1000-1100€ . Sure more expensive but inflation wise not THAT much more. and last years G425 is about 550€ A driver costed 200-250 back then and now 350€ for about the same
Putters though is bonkers. I payed 140€ for my ping anser d back in 2012. A new anser is 350€....basically the same putter, that IS crazy.
I think prices are increasing on putters due to players tending to keep a good putter in the bag longer because technology really isn't making a major difference year to year. That means you need higher prices to offset the lower amount of sales. Also, almost all top end putters are milled now and milling is a drastically more expensive process than casting. That would be my guess as a person who has only had 2 putters over the last 10+ years and plans on having my current one in the bag for the foreseeable future.
@@jameszaimes7407 sounds probable. I will probably change my old ap1 clubs if I play more than two rounds a year. But I will not replace my special putter for a long while, Don’t see the point. It goes straight, there is no distance to be gained and less risk if shit hits than an iron where forgiveness is a point.
@Infigo96 exactly, and people who are the main consumers in the industry usually change irons every 2-3 years and drivers, oftentimes yearly. I used to be a club fitter and I would often do a full bag fitting with customers who had clubs from 2 years prior yet had a putter from 10 years prior and we usually didn't change that out.
Give it a go! Love it when you paly new clubs in your bag. Looking forward to the Kirkland full bag break 75
I play an Odyssey mallet that I bought 30 years ago (along with the rest of my clubs) and always loved the weight, sound and feel of the putter. God bless a softer insert! I wish I could have seen a little more on the alignment marks and head design of the indy just to see if there was something to it to provide a few more checkpoints. My gut tells me there is more than a simple blue line if they are bragging that much about “ease of alignment”. But maybe not. Maybe it’s just another overpriced blade type putter.
Also when they say a miss, I think they are still expecting the miss to be within let's say for example the face insert area of the Odyssey putter, or the groove area of an Evnroll putter, not the extreme toe and heel.
When it comes to putting it is always the Puttee not the Putter that makes the difference. Get what feels good to you and gives you the most confidence and you will hole more putts.
The biggest difference I've ever seen with a putter is of the shelf vs getting fit. A fit putter makes putting noticeably easier. Probably the easiest club to be fit in to.
Need to break out the Evnroll er2 I have the cs and that drill it destroys imo. Thank you for that video years ago. Been in the bag since I ordered it the day the video released.
I putted with a wooden Louisville Louie today and did just as well as with my Scotty. It's all in your stroke !
Rick, test the putter on GC Quad at 32ft. I discovered my replacement putter grip was NOT on square! After 20-30 putts, you will absolutely know if this putter is left, center, or right.
It will be softer. It’s aluminum. It will probably start to dent on the center of it fairly quickly compared to stainless steel heads
Some of Ricks reasoning? Entertaining and very watchable. Great Jon RS.
Should do a spinoff of golfbidder match, 1 uses the most expensive set of clubs you can put together vs cheapest/secondhand golfbidder clubs
Just saw that Vice now has putters, wedges, and irons. Would love a review on how those compare to the big brands
Rick, please do a campaign to get all those unused golf clubs out of peoples garages and cupboards and in to the hands of new golfers!! How about hooking up with the golf unions and golf clubs to offer ‘Golf Club Amnesty to support beginners’ or ‘Free Your Golf Clubs’. Idea would be that we hand in unused clubs to the nearest local golf club and then they can be sold for minimum price to support grass roots golf. Golf for the people!!!
Not to be that guy, but if Rick wanted to get clubs in people’s hands he’d empty out his massive collection of clubs that he’s been sent that just sit in a closet, maybe have been used for a single review video, and sit there being wasted. He’s done a video on his storage room. Hundreds of sets of irons, drivers, putters and more that go completely unused
They want to keep riff raff off of their pretty grass... atleast that's what I run into a lot when I golf
$300 of that price tag is for the packaging.
Nah, at least $400. It's just a lump of aluminum.
Great review, Rick. Would love to see a review of a void putter!
That's what i like about Rick ! Even if they put a gold bar with RS on it , in the box ... he's gonna tell you his honest opinion . ❤
Rick can you do the new never compromise putter from Dunlop/srixon/Cleveland I’m interested in one but I have not found a place to try it and the reviews are limited out there
Rick, try the Meridian putter. They’re a small U.S. putter company. It’s awesome.
It’s under $300
It's interesting to me to see the so-called "tech" in putters these days. I remember about 40 years ago my Mother bought a new putter for my Dad as a gift, and it had a "high moi" design to it with extra weight in the heel and toe, pretty much exactly like this putter. There is nothing new under the sun, I guess. Oh, and as for the putter itself -- my Dad HATED it with a passion! LOL
Not overly surprised by your findings, all modern putters have very similar technology with weight being moved for MOI.
It’s the same concept as the Kind Cobra 3D printed putters. The body of the putter is super light with heavy weights on each end.
I think you should test out the L.A.B df3. 2 rounds so far and my average for my last rounds was 1.83 vs my normal 2.25 per round. Toe hang scotty over to a L.A.B df3.
I feel like he’s never going to because it’s not traditional and once he goes lie angle balanced he’s not going to be able to give traditional putters as high of marks
He did the forgiveness test against ai one, those are no joke forgiving so good on indi to tie. I got the cheaper blue ai one in a blade and it’s more forgiving than my mallet putters.
As you hit more shots with a putter than any other club surely if its well made and you find a putter that suits your game the cost will be worth the investment?
The prices on the web site are comparable with any premium putter, sorry you went for a Ping 2k fitting and the putter went rusty in 1 round. I wouldn’t buy one because i love the putter i use, but if i was in the market, i would research them. We use putter more than any other club, and pay less attention when buying one. Ultimately i use an old TM spider, on tour you see so many pros using them, when my pals try my putter, off they go to eBay buying an old spider, you can pick them up for £50-£100, and they will hold their price.
Some people think that the more they spend the better they will putt. Good luck to them. Technique is everything.
YeS!! Please game it. I am a big fan of 6061 putters.. aesthetically, it looks good, aside from the big branding in the cavity.
You would never be able to replicate the swing speed and impact force over and over enough to know whether it matters - however that also belies the evidence that it matters that much too.
I'll stick with my Cleveland Huntingdon Beach got it brand new half price for £60 and it's beautiful to putt with.
Omg big fan of your work Rick. I am playing card collector. I need those playing cards lol. Or some kind of club, which ever you fancy lol. Keep up the great work my guy.
Is it expensive how often will you change a putter if it works its not like a golf club
I putt with an old Ping 1A that I bought used in the early 2000s. I have tried other putters (including my dad's SC) and I really don't see a reason to replace it, definitely can't see dropping $500 on this.
I wanna see you review the lab df3 Rick !!
Would have been interesting to see balls with lines on to see what the roll was like. Looked like a quality bit of kit.
Don’t like goose neck putters do they have mallet style?
40 years ago my mate bought a fancy heel toe weighted putter at Bolton muni, black and gold, I forget the brand. I stuck with my my ping pal until the seat broke. I putted better, I’ve had 5 putters in 45 years of golf. Gave one to my dad. It’s not the putter…..
Kinda hard to check their stuff out when the website doesn't work
When are we gonna get a Good Good putter review?? It was teased a few years ago when they came to visit but I don’t think it event came out! They have so many now it would be great to get your opinion!!
You should get fit and try a lab putter. The df3 is phenomenal!
I feel when it comes to putting its not so much which putter, it's the putter that makes the difference. Easier to say, it's not the putter, it's the putter.
Tried several putters, including several scotty cammerons...chose a Mizuno
I'm using a Cleveland Retrieve mallet and works just fine at £120
If you practice putting 10 hours a week plus 30 minutes prior to each round, and play a lot of golf, then 500 isn't outrageous for a putter you really like. I don't do any of that so my Condor Marksman Balata Putter is good enough for me. 5 bucks.
Please do a review of the Vice Golf Clubs.
When are you going to test putters in the studio on the zen mat?
As an American viewer I really appreciate the way you pronounce aluminum
aluminium* 😂 Why did Americans just decide to leave out the i?
Indi Golf (SCDC) designed and makes the Costco/Kirkland golf clubs...
The golf club industry and the prices are a sham. Get a club, any old lump of metal, practise with it, over and over, see how it performs in your hands, adjust accordingly and stick with it. There simply ain't no magic bullet. The more you change, the more you gotta practise and adjust.
From a tech perspective, stuff like this will save you strokes. Scotty’s will cost you strokes. But people buy Scotty’s to show off, not to shave strokes.
For me, if I want you to shave strokes I’ll stick with the original 2 ball, but because I like it, I play a 90’s anser 2.
Golf Shoes look super comfy.
The price is close to an evnrol or a Scotty Cameron, they are both 420-450
The company claim regarding aiming accuracy was obnoxiously skewed. I was done taking the putter seriously at that point.
You should send this to @Clubchampion and have Ian and Mikey test this on their putting rig/setup! It'd be interesting to see what its actually doing!
The putter should be the club you spend the most money on as you use it more than any other club in the bag. People pay £500 for a driver which they may only use 6 times in a round. Invest in your putter if it works for you!!!
I was all in until the price, then I shut the video off!
Looks really nice Rick. 🏌♂️👍
Really appreciate the contents and bringing these brands to our attention but I was surprised you’d do a putter review and at no point discuss whether it was a good fit for you and your stroke . 🤷♂️
What’s the toe hang? How does it compare to your own gamer it terms of fit and weight?
Doesn't seem like much, especially for the price. So much of what makes a putter work for me is a combination of head and grip that adds up to the right balanced feel.
You use a putter more than any other club, so why not get fit and ignore price? It’s also a club that doesn’t wear out. Not to mention Scotty is no more expensive than ping PLD, Taylormade milled, Toulon, etc. and this indi putter costs similar to a Scotty in the UK.
at least my scotty holds some value, i can get it shipped back if it breaks, and i know its a nice quality putter. im expecting to play it the rest of my life. 300$ i paid for it new is worth that.
"aircraft aluminum" is always pure marketing speak. the most common and readily available aluminum grades are "aircraft" quality, as long as its solid and not some cast crap.
That’s a hell of a markup on something that cost $50 to produce…the cost of putters has gotten ridiculous and the fact of the matter is if you can’t putt in the first place a $500 putter isn’t gonna turn you into a great putter..buy the $100 putter and practice practice practice 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Everywhere in every industry has items at a crazy mark up, it's all to do with people's mind set naturally believing if something is expensive it must be good, it's our own fault for falling for it and making the purchases.
Put the Hardy up against them in off centre strikes. 😉
Too expensive. Stop watching at the price reveal.
I'm guessing the cash on the bottom relates to 'Drive for show, putt for dough' ??
Why is it that we are so surprised that a putter costs around £500 when today's drivers cost over £500 and this excludes if you wanted an exotic shaft. We use the putter on every hole so why shouldn't the putter cost more if you use it more 🤷♂️🤷♂️
you should review the Olson Putter!
Rick, can you review the new Vice clubs???
For that price I expect the flight case, the cards, the sample head and more. That's taking the mickey.