The GH7 is what the GH6 should have been when released. It is a reconciliation. I almost bought a GH6 and I'm glad I skipped it and the G9 II (My son bought a G9 II). Now it is time to finally replace my GH4. I'm 69, so it may be the last camera this retiree needs.
Going from the GH4 or GH5 to this you will be blown away! Just make sure you have the time to sit down and really figure out the camera, theyve added in so much!
G'day from Australia Rhett. I'm really leaning towards the GH7 to do what I need from a camera for my channel. Wondering if you could suggest an idiot proof zoom lens that will pair nicely for run and gun hand held shooting. Chasing one lens for filming 4wding, talking head, wildlife and cooking segments. All outdoors, often poorly lit, mostly hand held - so stability is really important. I just want to use 4k 60fps footage straight out of the camera without colour grading. Is the Leica 12-60 that's available as a kit lens good enough? Or is there something else out there I should look at? LOVE your opinion mate! Cam Wild
Sorry for the delay in reply! If we want an all in one lens I have a few thoughts for sure. The Leica 12-60 is one of the top contenders. Stopping down to F4 basically provides you with a constant aperture, mostly parfocal, great autofocusing, weather sealed, great for macro 24-120mm zoom lens in a pretty small package although for wildlife I think it might fall SLIGHTLY short. Another wealther sealed options with greater range but some optical compromises is the Lumix 14-140 which gives you a 28-280mm range which is a lot better than the 60mm of the leica but the light gathering and background blur is a bit less for the interviews and the autofocus will be a bit slower. Switching to Olympus you also have some interesting options and they should perform OK even if I havent tested them The Olympus 12-100 F4 is much larger than these two lenses but has a good compromise of range vs quality and light gathering giving you the same 24mm equiv wide and a fairly close 200mm at the long end although the IBIS and OIS of the lens wont work together. And the most extreme lens and best for wildlife potentially on this list but potentially one of the more expensive and weakest in the specs (outside its crazy zoom) might be the Olympus 12-200. In daylight this will technically cover pretty much everything youd ever want but again the slower aperture might cause issues if it gets dim. 2 lens solutions - The first is more budget especially used and that would be the Leica 12-60 and the Lumix 100-300 ii, both weather sealed and the Lumix 100-300 would be used specifically for wildlife and is really decent for its range and price although there may be different options. The second may be more pro but used could be still good and thats the Olympus 12-40 and 40-150 which both have a solid 2.8 aperture and more range so youd only have to switch occasionally and also have F4 versions that are smaller if thats important to you. I hope this helps a bit and lmk if you need any more help!
Thanks for the Video Rhett! You confirm a lot of things and it's clear that you have a honest opinion and clears about details! I would LOVE to see a comparison between the color science between the GH6 & the GH7. And also the noise floor between the two in V-log with DRB turned on. I'm mean really pixel peeping! :) Thanks!
One question please: I'm filming surfing at quite long distance (70-200 2.8 or Sigma 150-600) with a gh5. AF is terrible and impossible to use. Can GH7 give me AF at long distance or its improvement doesn't make real difference in that purpose? Should i get the GH7 for a perfect m43 combo in surfing videos?
Shooting with adapted lenses, especially on the GH5 is a recipe for disaster. AF is truly terrible with adapted lenses even with native lenses. It’s gonna be pretty rough. I have seen some tests with the GH7 and the metabones updated in a really specific way and that seems to work well but I still think naitive MFT lenses would be leagues faster. Photos or video?
@@RhettThompsonFilm hi! I'm filming with gh5 + Metabones 0.71 + Sigma 150-600 Sport or Canon 70-200 2.8 ii No native lenses and I will not buy . My question is if phase AF would make real difference than Gh6 for medium or long distance AF ....Like filming surfers and switching from one wave to another. From one side of the beach to other ....
@@FluidSurfing what I said, I’ve seen good results as long as you update the firmware of the met bones in a really specific way so that’s gonna be the best you can get. Why so allergic to native lenses? It seems like filming with water in a beach and everything you would want the best auto focus and weather sealing to me, but I get it.
@@RhettThompsonFilm Thanks! Yes I saw something about Metabones update. Why not native? Because I cannot afford more lenses😭 Gh7 would be my (almost) last purchase in video. And I want to be sure to make it. Seems really The m43 dreamed body
@@EmeraldAudiovisual there’s a few little tiny bugs here in there, but I haven’t updated so I’m assuming most of those are already fixed or being worked on
New sub and fellow GH7 owner. Do you know what the heck is going on with the ARRI Log delivery delay? I ordered on July 30th and have received nothing thus far.
@@RhettThompsonFilm Thanks for asking! It was an error with Panasonic. My order fell into an abyss. I ended up purchasing through Amazon, and all went great! It took some time, but a refund from Panasonic came through.
I’d love to hear how easy it is to match colors between the GH6, GH7 and S5II. The main reason I’m hesitant to jump to the GH7 is that I love the image coming from the 6 and I can get the S5II to match to it. Thanks!
Hey man, got a quick question/weird thing with my gh7. So when I am in open gate 5.8k mode in manual focus, I cannot seem to move my little direct focus area box off the bottom of the screen. It can only move side to side, but it's stuck to the bottom of the screen. Neither the joystick nor my fingers can get it off the bottom of the screen. Does yours do this? I can't seem to find anything on this on reddit or anywhere. thanks in advance.
Never heard of this and I just checked my copy does not display this issue. You should be able to also, reset it by hitting the display button does that do anything? Otherwise may be a factory reset or a firmware update could be in order.
@@RhettThompsonFilm I appreciate you checking yours. It doesn't do it in the viewfinder (I can freely move it around with the joystick). It's only in open gate on the screen. I tried resetting the display, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Might try resetting the camera after today (I have a wedding today so I'll wait until after that). Thanks again!
@@RhettThompsonFilm Little update - if I set my monitor display setup to have the icons within the live area, this problem goes away. it only does it when I have the icons set outside of the live view area. weird. again this only happens in open gate.
GH7 looks superb, but I still love the GH6 and the upgrades are too minor for me to upgrade yet,especially as I mostly use MF lenses. If I want AF I’ll use my Canon which hasn’t been used for 12-18 months. Only thing I would love is better lowlight but my A7Sii has me covered there. I’ll be keeping an eye open for when you buy the GH8 though in like five years lol. Just bought the Sirui 35mm anamorphic and loving that atm. 🎉
Yeaaa I hope I can communicate here and in follow up videos that the GH6 and even the GH5ii and other cameras a STILL SO GOOD. I have such specific work I do the GH7 ended up making sense but it also could totally be a better buy to get a GH6 for many people and I still use mine almost daily.
Someone else already said this, but the GH7 is ABSOLUTELY what the GH6 should have been. Gonna upgrade to it from my GH6 at some point next year; waiting to see if we get a PROPER cinema camera from Lumix. Also, does the GH7 do the onion skinning thing that the GH5 did for stop motion animation? No one talked about that feature much, even when the GH5 was new
@@RhettThompsonFilm and it almost seems like now you can go to external drives, even on the iPhone. You know why pay extra for a 1 TB iPhone when you can now record to a external drive! Times are changing fast...again.
@@michelesiniscalchi8695 you failed to consider how stupid I am! But all seriousness, many features added to the GH seven while small actually directly affect the ability for me to do the jobs that I get hired to do. As a professional even without the auto focus, this had to be done sooner or later I just decided to go ahead and make it sooner.
@@RhettThompsonFilm yes but you have to carefully test the super nokton 29 f0.8. Speaking to a person who owns it, he confessed to me that it manages to express image quality superior to any lens already at f1. I don't believe it. Only you can experience it. There are few reviews about it. It's time to compare with the best in the system. Olympus 25 f1.2 and Leica 25 f1.4 which are the closest to focusing and understanding what to really do. And also how easy the manual focus of that lens is to manage. :)
I'd love to see some color science comparisons between GH5s, GH6 and GH7. The GH7 seems to have a lot more tonality in the highlights but loses some hue vibrancy in the process. Things look a lot more three dimensional but a bit washed out in the highlights. I like the look, but GH6 might have been a happier middle ground. I'm wondering if GH7 can get away with underexposing and lifting shadows and mids in post so the highlights regions can retain some more saturation density.
I heard somewhere at sometime... one of the main reasons that panasonic didnt use phase detect was due to it compromising the image. I was wondering if you were going to like gh6 image more because I heard I think two other channels express that
Can you compare the colors of your cameras again, I really liked the GH6 skin color comparison! I think the s1HII will be in a GH7 body, they will just put a full frame sensor there is enough space!
GH6 has 25.2 mp Live MOS sensor same ? as G9ii while GH7 has a BSI CMOS sensor BSI give ..so it says one stop extra light gathering presume this pushes out noise to higher ISO. The G100 had those extra features over G9.. contrast focus detect works in bright light and wide aperture lenses enter f1.7 zooms designed to push limits of MFT...but PD is awesome Regards contrast Dynamic Range Gamma curves saturation these are all adjustable in settings.. LUT feature is a shortcut to adjusting settings AND V Log is a lets decide later when its shown on a monitor...The GH7 is/has crossed the threshold of further major improvements ..its arrived... Image is excellent and now is auto focus..new updated lenses have been designed for video F1.7 zooms BUT the latest Leica 12-35 f2.8 this years has true constant focus and no noticeable breathing and new linear motors .. Looking forward video is expanding GH& is a game changer. In UK a GH7 body including all taxes is $1800..$300 more than G9ii... 12-35 f2.8 is $650 F1.7 lenses $1300 at these prices its never been cheaper for Pro RAW ,Arri LUT ..add on 6 stop IBIS which is superior to full frame IBIS... HOLD this thought Pro video cameras use a One Inch sensor Arri had and still use a super 35mm sensor for high budget films... MFT is adequate GH& has the better sensor.
@@psysword so dramatic! Haha I still wonder if there was variance in how intense it was. I can’t say it ruined any shots in the years I’ve used the camera
Do you wish they had made more of an FX style body? I cant help but think they should shift it slightly away from the photo style body and keey that one for G9 bodies.
I go back and forth a lot on stuff like this. I personally dont mind especially because I can still use this for stills and dont ALWAYS rig up my cameras but its a good question.
Eh idk the improvements and radical redesign warrant a full upgrade to me. It’s that reuse of a similar or identical body design and overlap of features that make a version vs a mkii although that’s not consistent at all.
saying goodbye to your g9ii 🥲 As a photo guy still love it although we understand gh7 suits you better hope to see also adding the g9ii to the color comparison if that's possible before the sale
The GH7 is what the GH6 should have been when released. It is a reconciliation. I almost bought a GH6 and I'm glad I skipped it and the G9 II (My son bought a G9 II). Now it is time to finally replace my GH4. I'm 69, so it may be the last camera this retiree needs.
Long live William!
@@zencollectiongallery thanks!
Going from the GH4 or GH5 to this you will be blown away! Just make sure you have the time to sit down and really figure out the camera, theyve added in so much!
@@RhettThompsonFilm I’ve no shortage of time. I’m retired. I just need the right purpose.
G9ii will meet 99% of your needs. It has the same sensor and focusing speed. But, the GH7 is a beast!
Can you do videos on all those fancy functions that no one talks about. Like the zoom in and so on
I really hope I can! So many ideas and so little time. I need an editor (even though I cant afford one)
I'm loving that you bought one, so I can vicariously experience it.
I bought one too :)
@@A2Z1Two3 nice :)
The only one who doesnt love it is my bank account! But its already making me money so I cant be too upset.
I want one 😄 Great video man!
@@RedFrameTech it’s slowly winning me over…GH6 isnt going anywhere through
arg I want one -- great video by the way man
@@AndrewKuttor Price just dropped 200 bucks!
@@RhettThompsonFilmwhich one
G'day from Australia Rhett.
I'm really leaning towards the GH7 to do what I need from a camera for my channel.
Wondering if you could suggest an idiot proof zoom lens that will pair nicely for run and gun hand held shooting.
Chasing one lens for filming 4wding, talking head, wildlife and cooking segments.
All outdoors, often poorly lit, mostly hand held - so stability is really important.
I just want to use 4k 60fps footage straight out of the camera without colour grading.
Is the Leica 12-60 that's available as a kit lens good enough? Or is there something else out there I should look at?
LOVE your opinion mate!
Cam Wild
Sorry for the delay in reply!
If we want an all in one lens I have a few thoughts for sure. The Leica 12-60 is one of the top contenders. Stopping down to F4 basically provides you with a constant aperture, mostly parfocal, great autofocusing, weather sealed, great for macro 24-120mm zoom lens in a pretty small package although for wildlife I think it might fall SLIGHTLY short.
Another wealther sealed options with greater range but some optical compromises is the Lumix 14-140 which gives you a 28-280mm range which is a lot better than the 60mm of the leica but the light gathering and background blur is a bit less for the interviews and the autofocus will be a bit slower.
Switching to Olympus you also have some interesting options and they should perform OK even if I havent tested them
The Olympus 12-100 F4 is much larger than these two lenses but has a good compromise of range vs quality and light gathering giving you the same 24mm equiv wide and a fairly close 200mm at the long end although the IBIS and OIS of the lens wont work together.
And the most extreme lens and best for wildlife potentially on this list but potentially one of the more expensive and weakest in the specs (outside its crazy zoom) might be the Olympus 12-200. In daylight this will technically cover pretty much everything youd ever want but again the slower aperture might cause issues if it gets dim.
2 lens solutions -
The first is more budget especially used and that would be the Leica 12-60 and the Lumix 100-300 ii, both weather sealed and the Lumix 100-300 would be used specifically for wildlife and is really decent for its range and price although there may be different options.
The second may be more pro but used could be still good and thats the Olympus 12-40 and 40-150 which both have a solid 2.8 aperture and more range so youd only have to switch occasionally and also have F4 versions that are smaller if thats important to you.
I hope this helps a bit and lmk if you need any more help!
The GH7’s upgrades sound good. But I decided to get a second GH6.
More cameras for certain things is always a plus!
I love my gh7
Thanks for the Video Rhett! You confirm a lot of things and it's clear that you have a honest opinion and clears about details! I would LOVE to see a comparison between the color science between the GH6 & the GH7. And also the noise floor between the two in V-log with DRB turned on. I'm mean really pixel peeping! :) Thanks!
does high fps recording mode have PDAF support, s5II does not.
Can you also test video jello test in wide lenses?
PDAF if every mode for sure. You lose subject detection over 60 I think though
One question please: I'm filming surfing at quite long distance (70-200 2.8 or Sigma 150-600) with a gh5.
AF is terrible and impossible to use.
Can GH7 give me AF at long distance or its improvement doesn't make real difference in that purpose?
Should i get the GH7 for a perfect m43 combo in surfing videos?
Shooting with adapted lenses, especially on the GH5 is a recipe for disaster. AF is truly terrible with adapted lenses even with native lenses. It’s gonna be pretty rough.
I have seen some tests with the GH7 and the metabones updated in a really specific way and that seems to work well but I still think naitive MFT lenses would be leagues faster. Photos or video?
@@RhettThompsonFilm hi! I'm filming with gh5 + Metabones 0.71 + Sigma 150-600 Sport or Canon 70-200 2.8 ii
No native lenses and I will not buy .
My question is if phase AF would make real difference than Gh6 for medium or long distance AF ....Like filming surfers and switching from one wave to another. From one side of the beach to other ....
@@FluidSurfing what I said, I’ve seen good results as long as you update the firmware of the met bones in a really specific way so that’s gonna be the best you can get. Why so allergic to native lenses? It seems like filming with water in a beach and everything you would want the best auto focus and weather sealing to me, but I get it.
@@RhettThompsonFilm Thanks! Yes I saw something about Metabones update.
Why not native? Because I cannot afford more lenses😭
Gh7 would be my (almost) last purchase in video.
And I want to be sure to make it.
Seems really The m43 dreamed body
Yep .. The GH7 basically is the culmination of the GH5-II, GH-6 and stuff that went into the S5-II X.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual there’s a few little tiny bugs here in there, but I haven’t updated so I’m assuming most of those are already fixed or being worked on
@@RhettThompsonFilm On 1.0 myself, too. I guess, I should go an install 1.1. tonight.
New sub and fellow GH7 owner. Do you know what the heck is going on with the ARRI Log delivery delay? I ordered on July 30th and have received nothing thus far.
Where do you live? I received mine this week 2 days after ordering it. I live in germany by the way.
Thanks for the reply. Did yours come as a physical code in the mail? I’m in the USA, Montana.
@@gravitymediapro yes, I received a physical package containing the code and a multi language installation guide
I dont know at all! How did this all turn out? Have you received it?
@@RhettThompsonFilm Thanks for asking! It was an error with Panasonic. My order fell into an abyss. I ended up purchasing through Amazon, and all went great! It took some time, but a refund from Panasonic came through.
I’d love to hear how easy it is to match colors between the GH6, GH7 and S5II. The main reason I’m hesitant to jump to the GH7 is that I love the image coming from the 6 and I can get the S5II to match to it. Thanks!
Hey man, got a quick question/weird thing with my gh7. So when I am in open gate 5.8k mode in manual focus, I cannot seem to move my little direct focus area box off the bottom of the screen. It can only move side to side, but it's stuck to the bottom of the screen. Neither the joystick nor my fingers can get it off the bottom of the screen. Does yours do this? I can't seem to find anything on this on reddit or anywhere. thanks in advance.
Never heard of this and I just checked my copy does not display this issue.
You should be able to also, reset it by hitting the display button does that do anything? Otherwise may be a factory reset or a firmware update could be in order.
@@RhettThompsonFilm I appreciate you checking yours. It doesn't do it in the viewfinder (I can freely move it around with the joystick). It's only in open gate on the screen. I tried resetting the display, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Might try resetting the camera after today (I have a wedding today so I'll wait until after that). Thanks again!
@@RhettThompsonFilm Little update - if I set my monitor display setup to have the icons within the live area, this problem goes away. it only does it when I have the icons set outside of the live view area. weird. again this only happens in open gate.
GH7 looks superb, but I still love the GH6 and the upgrades are too minor for me to upgrade yet,especially as I mostly use MF lenses. If I want AF I’ll use my Canon which hasn’t been used for 12-18 months. Only thing I would love is better lowlight but my A7Sii has me covered there. I’ll be keeping an eye open for when you buy the GH8 though in like five years lol. Just bought the Sirui 35mm anamorphic and loving that atm. 🎉
Yeaaa I hope I can communicate here and in follow up videos that the GH6 and even the GH5ii and other cameras a STILL SO GOOD. I have such specific work I do the GH7 ended up making sense but it also could totally be a better buy to get a GH6 for many people and I still use mine almost daily.
Someone else already said this, but the GH7 is ABSOLUTELY what the GH6 should have been.
Gonna upgrade to it from my GH6 at some point next year; waiting to see if we get a PROPER cinema camera from Lumix.
Also, does the GH7 do the onion skinning thing that the GH5 did for stop motion animation? No one talked about that feature much, even when the GH5 was new
What did GH5 do for stop motion? I only ask bc I have a GH5s and a GH52 I’m going to be doing some stop motion for a project I’m working on.
How is the build quality, as someone say it’s not that good made compare to gh6?
@@StanTregubenko honestly I don’t see much of a difference
With arri log min iso is 350 if iremember right
@@andersistbesser I do remember it being something like that
I have the G9Ii now and I do miss the front record button. I don't miss the CF card. Even with the drop on the GH7 price, I'll have to wait.
Its always a tradeoff isnt it! Although I find that High Res mode is WAY faster with the CFExpress but otherwise take it or leave it for most people.
@@RhettThompsonFilm and it almost seems like now you can go to external drives, even on the iPhone. You know why pay extra for a 1 TB iPhone when you can now record to a external drive! Times are changing fast...again.
Im so happy to see they put back in live view comp ... definitely glad i held strong on not buying the g9ii ...now i just need to sell some stuff 😂
Smarter than I was! The G9ii is great for a lot of people but juts not ideal for me!
woah! sick!
Thank you!
@@RhettThompsonFilm for sure - I had the GH1 back in the day lol. So always a soft spot for the GH lineup.
Now my Gh6 is my B cam and gh7 A cam
Pretty nice combo! I’m glad I’m able to have a variety of cameras so yea GH6 GH7 and GH5s is so nice
hahaahaha I told you you would buy it, but I didn't think so soon XD
@@michelesiniscalchi8695 you failed to consider how stupid I am!
But all seriousness, many features added to the GH seven while small actually directly affect the ability for me to do the jobs that I get hired to do. As a professional even without the auto focus, this had to be done sooner or later I just decided to go ahead and make it sooner.
@@RhettThompsonFilm yes but you have to carefully test the super nokton 29 f0.8. Speaking to a person who owns it, he confessed to me that it manages to express image quality superior to any lens already at f1. I don't believe it. Only you can experience it. There are few reviews about it. It's time to compare with the best in the system. Olympus 25 f1.2 and Leica 25 f1.4 which are the closest to focusing and understanding what to really do. And also how easy the manual focus of that lens is to manage. :)
I'd love to see some color science comparisons between GH5s, GH6 and GH7. The GH7 seems to have a lot more tonality in the highlights but loses some hue vibrancy in the process. Things look a lot more three dimensional but a bit washed out in the highlights. I like the look, but GH6 might have been a happier middle ground. I'm wondering if GH7 can get away with underexposing and lifting shadows and mids in post so the highlights regions can retain some more saturation density.
@@halifaxzapp i definitely plan on comparing those exact camera
I heard somewhere at sometime... one of the main reasons that panasonic didnt use phase detect was due to it compromising the image. I was wondering if you were going to like gh6 image more because I heard I think two other channels express that
Can you compare the colors of your cameras again, I really liked the GH6 skin color comparison! I think the s1HII will be in a GH7 body, they will just put a full frame sensor there is enough space!
@@ggdfggdfgdffgfddg34 I definitely plan on doing a much more in-depth comparison soon between the GH six and seven
GH6 has 25.2 mp Live MOS sensor same ? as G9ii while GH7 has a BSI CMOS sensor BSI give ..so it says one stop extra light gathering presume this pushes out noise to higher ISO.
The G100 had those extra features over G9.. contrast focus detect works in bright light and wide aperture lenses enter f1.7 zooms designed to push limits of MFT...but PD is awesome
Regards contrast Dynamic Range Gamma curves saturation these are all adjustable in settings.. LUT feature is a shortcut to adjusting settings AND V Log is a lets decide later when its shown on a monitor...The GH7 is/has crossed the threshold of further major improvements ..its arrived... Image is excellent and now is auto focus..new updated lenses have been designed for video F1.7 zooms BUT the latest Leica 12-35 f2.8 this years has true constant focus and no noticeable breathing and new linear motors .. Looking forward video is expanding GH& is a game changer. In UK a GH7 body including all taxes is $1800..$300 more than G9ii... 12-35 f2.8 is $650 F1.7 lenses $1300 at these prices its never been cheaper for Pro RAW ,Arri LUT ..add on 6 stop IBIS which is superior to full frame IBIS... HOLD this thought Pro video cameras use a One Inch sensor Arri had and still use a super 35mm sensor for high budget films... MFT is adequate GH& has the better sensor.
Gh6 streaking issues were unbearable. Gh7 is 90 percent better at reducing streaking
@@psysword so dramatic! Haha I still wonder if there was variance in how intense it was. I can’t say it ruined any shots in the years I’ve used the camera
Do you wish they had made more of an FX style body? I cant help but think they should shift it slightly away from the photo style body and keey that one for G9 bodies.
I go back and forth a lot on stuff like this. I personally dont mind especially because I can still use this for stills and dont ALWAYS rig up my cameras but its a good question.
I feel like the GH6 could've been a GH5 MkIII, and the GH7 could've just been the GH6.
Eh idk the improvements and radical redesign warrant a full upgrade to me. It’s that reuse of a similar or identical body design and overlap of features that make a version vs a mkii although that’s not consistent at all.
Thank you Panasonic. The GH6 turd is gone.
Haha I was a fan! And the GH7 took what was there and improved it!
We lost him guys
You found this video so I can’t be too lost!
Gerald Undone says the streaking issue is fixed...who`s lying?
@@Damon777 I also said it was fixed? So is there like a third person you’re referring to or something?
@@RhettThompsonFilm 6.15 you said it still exists but much improved?
@@Damon777 yeah it exists on every single camera with a CMOS sensor ever like 95% of cameras released in the last 10 or 15 years.
@@RhettThompsonFilm well someone is not being honest? If its not fixed then Gerald is lying.
@@T2JUDGEMENTDAY-rl2xiha ha. Is still there but much better than gh6
saying goodbye to your g9ii 🥲
As a photo guy still love it
although we understand gh7 suits you better
hope to see also adding the g9ii to the color comparison if that's possible before the sale
I’d say a good 75-85% of people could get away with the G9ii. Loved that camera but can’t afford to keep both.