There is one more issue with grind spots, especially dungeon-like ones. You can have pretty big dungeon with lots of rooms, but it contains only one really good and big grind spot (7 elten in hystria/statue in sycraiya/that one 2-room spot in kratuga), and the rest of the dungeon just don't have enough mobs or/and too big respawn time. But if you increase respawn rate by at least 50% all those redundant small rooms can be viable again.
It's probably designed that way to promote PVP and reward people who have better skills and gears. I personally like the idea, it's like a badge of honor to be grinding on the big boy spots.
@@zupremo9141 or it was designed at the tome whan people had a lot worse gear, and all classes clearspeed was way slower then today, and was overlooked for years, coz dev don\t understand how their game works
@@andriishvedkiy9401 There's always a clear best/better rotation almost everywhere, for it to just grow as the gear improves is a sign of good design to me.
@@zupremo9141 If you overclear half of the rooms using recommended AP, it's a bad design, if there are rooms with 3-4 monter packs, it's not a "good design" either, it's just idiocy, and if you wanna justify it, well it's your choice. Just think about it, for some reason I wasn't saying anything about orcs, there are also better and worse spots, but there are a lot of viable spots, not just ONE
I'll never get why Aakman is one of the last areas where you can actually CC mobs. The rest pretty much resist everything, or require gimmick mechanics, like Stars End. Pummeling the hell out of the trash at Aakman is just too satisfying. Those nutrition deprived women at Thornwood must weigh a ton each.
Honestly, income across the board seems fairly balanced, outside of a few outliers in BOTH directions, so buffing end game spots is just going to cause more problems. Effectively, all we need to see is: Centaur's needs nerfing - Basilisks/Shultz/Waragons all need to be 300-400m/hr as decent stepping stones for group spots - Stars end and Turos both need fairly sizeable buffs. Everywhere else is relatively worthwhile; the benchmark of early spots being ~300m/hr, with mid spots being 500m/hr and end game spots being 700m+ is a good thing to aim for I think.
tbh as a lazy guardian 310/390 iam sitting at orcs. zero risk of dying and breaking crystals, casual grinding while watching tv show or podcast on second monitor and earning around 700-800M of liquid silver. best spot for me.
@@misantropo2835iam using yellow ls everytime (have hundreds of them) + agris or agris blessing if available. my 60+ hrs at orcs are average just under 800M. but iam not S class grinder, more like B and lazy one. i grind when i have mood for it, so it can be 5x times a week or 1x time in 2 weeks.
I have about half of the income on any spot on the video, and I'm not a beginner. Been using 5 pets and have way more than the recommended ap, as well as doing my best to find an efficient rotation. I don't understand why my income is so low! Is it because my pets are not T4? Because I should also be picking up to help pets? Or maybe, I shouldn't wait for pets to pick up and just move as fast as possible? Help would be appreciated...
My friend boost me at abandoned monastery from season to 610 AP now in just 3 month. I do agree that they should change the system for the boss spawn to not announce it to the entire server. Nowadays people can just kill the boss without any problem, so why need to announce it just to make people hate this spot?
I had a break and started again. Have 272 AP and 342 DP with Maegu. Is the Efficient Orc Camp grindable or are there better spots for my AP (for silver)?
I got 61 lv 250 AP and 300DP awake mystic. I made 220m in crescent and only 150m in hystria with agris and other item drop buffs. Im looking for advice but these stats 400-600m seems too much tbh.
@@mycromerry696 birşeyleri eksik yapıyorsundur. Oynadığın sınıfın tüm detaylarını iyice öğren. Aynı zamanda hystrianında kendine göre mekanikleri var onları da öğrenmelisin. Kristallerini düzgün ayarlamalısın. Arrifectler düzgün olmalı. Addonlarını oyun tarzına uygun ayarlamalısın. Bu söylediklerimin hepsini sana tek tek gösteremem. Konu başlıklarını kendin araştırıp tamamlayabilirsin. İyi oyunlar
Great Video. I think PA should put more emphasis on duo spots & group spots. In my opinion, group spots should marginally give more silver. Spots like Hexe/Trolls/Orcs/Cents(come on xD) should give significantly lower average silver. There no point of group content when solo is just as good and less effort. Right now the only good group spot in my opinion that is accessible to most of people is Gyfin Upper, because you can actually get a lower geared person in the party and help him grow while you still have fun :) Me and my gf hardly do stuff together when it comes to silver making. We loved elvia imps when they came out, since the bmc was really high priced. But right now, other than turos, there are not nice duo spots.
Yeah some of the lower end spots you really only pull those high numbers if you are on a very fast class like valk, musa, zerker and have t5 + 4 t4 pets.
@@cjd82187 exactly ,which is only the case for very end game players mostly so it doesnt change the fact that they r still very bad compared to end game spots ,specially for free to play players with t1 and t2 pets that cant keep up with the fast clearing of early low ap spots
@@Quendya yeah it's kind of a shitty spot unless you have drop event, and castle buff, while playing archer or sage. maybe elvia stars end will be better.
@@Quendya Just add some consumable recipe for crystallized despairs, like some kind of new perfume, buff or elixir that will need one, adding new kind of blessing will help ofc, but in long term its price will eventually drop down again.
@@Quendya looks like they're adding distos to calpheon elvia now...think this will make a difference? I can't imagine the drop rate will be better than at stars end which means you'll probably get dry hours often.
@@Quendya thank you very much. In sulfur and pila ku my friends and I are only hitting around 230m per hour. But I guess it could probably be a gear problem bc our ap is only around 272 to 281 kutum. The one with 281 kutum gets around 10k trash with lvl 2 scroll and no agris.
268 AP Duo godr awake striker, awake ninja, 263ap tet bs suc zerk ile aakman denedim hep. Hiçbir zaman agris ve sarı sc ile saatte 400 500 600m alamadım. Parşömen,caphras, çöp... Hiçbir şekilde etmedi. Donebildigim en hızlı şekilde dönüyor güzel kombolar atıyorum ama olmuyor :D hatta polly vesaire de böyle benim için. Pollyden o kadar para alabilsem polly dönerim dönmesi çok keyifli succ zerk ile ama o da yok
Hystria doesn’t depend on the accessory drops, what? I’ve been stuck here for months even before the agris update. I constantly get around 530+ with just trash, caphra, and pila (post update) My trash using the agris + yellow of which you should be using for agris spot is avg 19853
Tbh the best spot for me is Jade forest, it scales with ur ap, the more you have the more silver u get,nit like certain grind spots were even if u have 100ap more than recommended the average silver is the same, I'm getting around 800-900m/h constantly at 293 ap at 305 I'm sure I can reach 1b+ , a well done spot
My friends think im crazy when I talk about how good Jade can be. It is rng and it isn't always 800m +, but more times than not I get 800m an hour there. I will say that after the drop rate event ended it definitely dropped a bit more than other spots since it is a rng spot. I've had plenty of hours upwards of a bill though. It's slept on for sure. 294k btw.
@@NahueAbr I mean, not in the near future, but hes kind of right.. one day, they will introduce mediah elvia, and then valencia elvia. Of course, the latter only our grandchildren would be able to enjoy it. Or maybe they stop doing the "alternative" dimension thing, and start creating other dimensions from the magnus itself. Who knows.
@@aldodzb according to the lore, the King of Mediah stopped the Invasion of Haddoom. If PA decides to continue with this Elvia’s realm it will only until Mediah region (honestly, I look forward to seeing it)
I'm not hating but I don't really think most of these info are correct. As a musa 276AP, I dont get anywhere near 300-400m/hr when im grinding for potion piece. very cap~ edit: with 4 tier 4s and 1 tier 3 pets
So one question, im a 277 AP ninja in succession. Pila ku as example is said to Make around 400-500 Million. I kill really fast, all i get with caphras etc. In total is 300 Million at Best. I tested more spots Like sherekhan etc. Its Hard for me to understand how you are able to generate so much money, because me and my brother with same AP, are Not able to get so much trash loot that we come near that silver. It seems impossible to us. What class would i need to get that? Zerker probably?
I really like turo, you can go there with friend which makes that spot somehow less boring, I think it is possible to get 11k tl/h on blue/agris with proper classes and good GS. Only problem is it is hard to estimate real income as garmoth for ex. Count venomous night fang as 30k when its real value is ~20kk, ofc you have to spend extra time Doing scrolls but counting it as 30k is Just stupid.
Selamlar, 250/305 gardiyan oynuyorum. Örnek olarak manşum ormanına gittim fakat 400-500 değerlerine ulaşamadığımı farkettim, eksiklerim neler olabilir fikrini almak istedim.
they are trying to bridge the gap between new and old players, they don't want old players getting much more than new ones, but that's stupid, it's an mmo and it should be like that, it's ridiculous that centaurs is the best grind spot in the game, much better than every elvia spots except quint hill, hexe santuary, and maybe orc camp too, if you can get like 700-800m per hour in centaurs, then you should be able to get AT LEAST 3b in hexe santuary or quint hill
Knk aksanindan anladım bizdensin o yüzden türkçe sorca. 3 ay önce yapimissin suan spotlarin durumu nasıl ? 272 ap 330dp ile.rn güzel parayi mirumoktami kadari. Ne tavsiye edersin
i disagree with your starsend silver per hours assessment, ieven garmoth says that its around 450mil per hour, and thats probably pretty close to what i averaged over 100 hours there, and ive had some 5 disto drop hours too making nearly 2 bil in an hour but that only makes up for some of the dry hours, i still think its much higher than your 150-200mil assessment
People don't understand why someone @ a zone that requires like 80more ap doesn't make as much? Even a zone that needs 100moreap that barley makes more WITH good rng. Not only that but zero chance of dying and losing crystals? My season char can do 24+k @ centaurs. Centaurs is not a catch up, it's utterly broken and stupid when you make obsolete nearly every other zone. 281+ zones should always make more silver, if centaurs was cut in half it would still be stupid broken for such little gear requirement. The game basically fast-tracks you to 281+, those zones should be earning you more, basic zone progression. "Hilarious" "I don't understand" that's the true comedy. It's a fking 190 AP zone that's better by miles the whole of the 280+ap Winter Zone and nearly the whole game rofl. "NEW PLAYERS", no it's broken and horrible design. This game nearly has 24/7 drop rate events and give aways too, what's to catch up? Just slam your head and you have silver.
290 ap var miruya solo gitsem çöpten verim alabilir miyim üstad ? ben çöpten para kasan biriyim orklarda verim alamıyorum henüz. rng deyok bende :D çöplük lazım bana :D
@@Quendya but they dont and also they are missing 30% drop from knowledge and drop rate from connecting nodes im 100% sure that they dont have them connect and and new players cant grind on those spots it old players playing on low gear character with infinte pot and miraculous cheer 5 itryed on my friend fresh account u cant grind those spots on fresh account and make that much money and new player dont know how to play thier class that well and Centaur only for some classes a lot of classes dont do well there
@@tmax4750 Those are not my problems. they can learn game and they have insanely high potential early game spots. 6 months ago we did not have that privilage. Now as an endgame player i am suffering at 300ap+ spot and gets around 800-900m. problem is high endgame
i think a lot of the early game spots are fine i get wanting new players to catch up.... but centaurs needs to get nerfed in some aspect its ridiculous that u can make that much silver within less then a week of playing since u can grind there with seasonal gear. maybe make it so its not agris effecient or put it back to what it was before the last rework where it made 400-500m an hour. i think centaurs is the only big issue early game spot
@@bobjoe2604 i agree, there is no need to nerf centaurs, simply buff other spots, why this hate against centaurs? you guys need to realize how hard it is for new players to gear up and having to catch up with years of grind.
@@bobjoe2604 yes i totally agree with you, end game players should just shut up, they have hexe and trolls which are not 700 mil like quendia says, but they are 1 bil to 1.3 bil, which is much much more.
PA sucks they dont build up the game just make everything messed up. Like why zerkers/valks can make 1b/h at centaurs while 95% of the mid/end game zones only give 300-600m/h while hexe and quint are the 2 best spots but theres like 5 more grind spots that require same or higher gear bit give 300m/h lol idk..
Wait... wut? So you place a 150ap spot there and you provide money/h made by 280ap player where is the logic? You don't make 200-500mil woth 150ap at polly, neither Ronaros with barely 240ap, just no. Advice - provide 2 separate income informations for both spot entry level gear and end game gear lol
Hey man, thank you very much for the video! I honestly appreciate the effort and how detailed they are. What can we say about Crescent Shrine? Do you how its silver/h? The reason I'm asking is because I've been grinding there for the past few days (Valk 266 AP) and I wanna know how it compares to other spots. Thanks!
Love the vid. Its hilarious how people get mad over centaurs lol. They dont even realise you did only 23k trash on valk there. Only classes that can do more is musa n zerker with infi mana pot and perfect movement, and 1500 weight minimum. People mad cus they cant get more money on orcs or other spots cus they sck at grinding. I honestly think garmoth is shit for trash numbers. I know people who do 23k trash blue no agris at orcs. So any1 doing less than 20k is doing it wrong. Get gud kekw
You don't understand why someone @ a zone that requires like 80more ap doesn't make as much? Not only that but zero chance of dying and losing crystals? lol? My season char can do 24+k. Centaurs is not a catch up, it's utterly broken and stupid when you make obsolete nearly every other zone. 281+ zones should always make more silver, if centaurs was cut in half it would still be stupid broken for such little gear requirement. The game basically fast-tracks you to 281+, those zones should be earning you more, basic zone progression. "Hilarious" "I don't understand" that's the true comedy. It's a fking 190 AP zone that's better by miles the whole of the 280+ap Winter Zone and nearly the whole game rofl. "NEW PLAYERS", no it's broken and horrible design.
@@Despond no. You are just bad at grinding like 90% out there. I know people who can do 28-30 k trash only yellow at orcs, guess what i bet you cant. Get good
There is one more issue with grind spots, especially dungeon-like ones. You can have pretty big dungeon with lots of rooms, but it contains only one really good and big grind spot (7 elten in hystria/statue in sycraiya/that one 2-room spot in kratuga), and the rest of the dungeon just don't have enough mobs or/and too big respawn time. But if you increase respawn rate by at least 50% all those redundant small rooms can be viable again.
You re right. I forgot to mention that. Thanks
It's probably designed that way to promote PVP and reward people who have better skills and gears. I personally like the idea, it's like a badge of honor to be grinding on the big boy spots.
@@zupremo9141 or it was designed at the tome whan people had a lot worse gear, and all classes clearspeed was way slower then today, and was overlooked for years, coz dev don\t understand how their game works
@@andriishvedkiy9401 There's always a clear best/better rotation almost everywhere, for it to just grow as the gear improves is a sign of good design to me.
@@zupremo9141 If you overclear half of the rooms using recommended AP, it's a bad design, if there are rooms with 3-4 monter packs, it's not a "good design" either, it's just idiocy, and if you wanna justify it, well it's your choice. Just think about it, for some reason I wasn't saying anything about orcs, there are also better and worse spots, but there are a lot of viable spots, not just ONE
I'll never get why Aakman is one of the last areas where you can actually CC mobs. The rest pretty much resist everything, or require gimmick mechanics, like Stars End. Pummeling the hell out of the trash at Aakman is just too satisfying.
Those nutrition deprived women at Thornwood must weigh a ton each.
Haaaa, that's a nice contextual observation for Thornwood 😂.
Well they are like meth addicts so...
Has aaakman been buffed? So sad as it’s always so weak in trash loot and exp … as it’s one of my favourite spots in the game to grind !
Kzarka grants their thigh's KD immunity
Honestly, income across the board seems fairly balanced, outside of a few outliers in BOTH directions, so buffing end game spots is just going to cause more problems.
Effectively, all we need to see is:
Centaur's needs nerfing - Basilisks/Shultz/Waragons all need to be 300-400m/hr as decent stepping stones for group spots - Stars end and Turos both need fairly sizeable buffs.
Everywhere else is relatively worthwhile; the benchmark of early spots being ~300m/hr, with mid spots being 500m/hr and end game spots being 700m+ is a good thing to aim for I think.
tbh as a lazy guardian 310/390 iam sitting at orcs. zero risk of dying and breaking crystals, casual grinding while watching tv show or podcast on second monitor and earning around 700-800M of liquid silver. best spot for me.
Good for you
Yea best spot to get dfs
700-800m without agris, right?
@@misantropo2835iam using yellow ls everytime (have hundreds of them) + agris or agris blessing if available. my 60+ hrs at orcs are average just under 800M. but iam not S class grinder, more like B and lazy one. i grind when i have mood for it, so it can be 5x times a week or 1x time in 2 weeks.
@@effydine5513 i do marni realm only, so no dfs
The best making silver in low level or low AP and Dp is Grinding with Ancient Relic And sell the Memory Fragment just easy
centuar is soo good you know even you will not sell those caphras and scroll the TL is sooo Goooooooooooood
I would grind hexe a lot more if crystal break wasn’t a mechanic. I love grinding with a challenge when the risk is worthy of it.
Risk is not worthy :D
1b an hr is too low?
@@LooseToots I can make close to if not more than that at gyfins without breaking a sweat lol
I guess its your time now since crystals wont break atm because of the event
I have about half of the income on any spot on the video, and I'm not a beginner. Been using 5 pets and have way more than the recommended ap, as well as doing my best to find an efficient rotation. I don't understand why my income is so low! Is it because my pets are not T4? Because I should also be picking up to help pets? Or maybe, I shouldn't wait for pets to pick up and just move as fast as possible? Help would be appreciated...
Probably about your pets
I think the mil/h counted here are the sum of everything you drop as average including black Stones and other stuff. So not only trash loot
@@Frinkoz4 yep
My friend boost me at abandoned monastery from season to 610 AP now in just 3 month. I do agree that they should change the system for the boss spawn to not announce it to the entire server. Nowadays people can just kill the boss without any problem, so why need to announce it just to make people hate this spot?
I dont know. maybe PA likes chaos
I had a break and started again. Have 272 AP and 342 DP with Maegu. Is the Efficient Orc Camp grindable or are there better spots for my AP (for silver)?
271 ap 321 dp guard where im a farming silver ?
I got 61 lv 250 AP and 300DP awake mystic. I made 220m in crescent and only 150m in hystria with agris and other item drop buffs. Im looking for advice but these stats 400-600m seems too much tbh.
It s not possible 150m at hystria. Did you just base attack mobs xD
kanka türkmüşsün ya bi el atsana bana nerde grind atayım:D
@@Quendya 250 apyle kesemiyom ki mobları cok zor sürekli pot basmak zorunda kalıyom ayrıca
@@mycromerry696 birşeyleri eksik yapıyorsundur. Oynadığın sınıfın tüm detaylarını iyice öğren. Aynı zamanda hystrianında kendine göre mekanikleri var onları da öğrenmelisin. Kristallerini düzgün ayarlamalısın. Arrifectler düzgün olmalı. Addonlarını oyun tarzına uygun ayarlamalısın. Bu söylediklerimin hepsini sana tek tek gösteremem. Konu başlıklarını kendin araştırıp tamamlayabilirsin. İyi oyunlar
Great Video. I think PA should put more emphasis on duo spots & group spots.
In my opinion, group spots should marginally give more silver. Spots like Hexe/Trolls/Orcs/Cents(come on xD) should give significantly lower average silver. There no point of group content when solo is just as good and less effort.
Right now the only good group spot in my opinion that is accessible to most of people is Gyfin Upper, because you can actually get a lower geared person in the party and help him grow while you still have fun :)
Me and my gf hardly do stuff together when it comes to silver making. We loved elvia imps when they came out, since the bmc was really high priced.
But right now, other than turos, there are not nice duo spots.
Abandoned monastery is a good spot. Go grind there.
So in a nutshell, go to centaurs, fuck everything else, lesson learned. Thanks
lots of the money charts are off by a few hundred mill, you can hardly say stars is 170m an hr avg when you are to get an avg of 1.3 distos an hour.
Those Numbers without rng drop.
I did bloodwolfs many many hours ,and it's definetly not 300M/Hour ,I'd say more like 100/200m ,,,,,even used scrolls and agris
OK I can see
Yeah some of the lower end spots you really only pull those high numbers if you are on a very fast class like valk, musa, zerker and have t5 + 4 t4 pets.
@@cjd82187 exactly ,which is only the case for very end game players mostly so it doesnt change the fact that they r still very bad compared to end game spots ,specially for free to play players with t1 and t2 pets that cant keep up with the fast clearing of early low ap spots
this video i wait to go out ty
with "normal" drop chance increases (222,5% in this case), star's end average on garmoth is 500m/hr. 1,2 distos per hour.
It s still rng spot. They should make that spot 290ap and increase the fixed income
@@Quendya yeah it's kind of a shitty spot unless you have drop event, and castle buff, while playing archer or sage. maybe elvia stars end will be better.
@@rabbitonarock9060 first they should fix recent calpheon elvia spots xD
@@Quendya Just add some consumable recipe for crystallized despairs, like some kind of new perfume, buff or elixir that will need one, adding new kind of blessing will help ofc, but in long term its price will eventually drop down again.
@@Quendya looks like they're adding distos to calpheon elvia now...think this will make a difference? I can't imagine the drop rate will be better than at stars end which means you'll probably get dry hours often.
How much can you make per hour ar tittium valley? (Frograns)
How much dp to be optimal in thornwood? Also there's too much misinformation on the avg income in some places.
261 Kutum is good for my experience. may you pls share your infos with us . i would love to see them.
@@Quendya thank you very much. In sulfur and pila ku my friends and I are only hitting around 230m per hour. But I guess it could probably be a gear problem bc our ap is only around 272 to 281 kutum. The one with 281 kutum gets around 10k trash with lvl 2 scroll and no agris.
@@Falcc02 Noıpe your ap is OK. there should be something wrong. Check it on the web please.
Nice Guide bro!
They need to buff castle ruins again and buff calpheon elvia they are funneling people into wierd spots with the current state of things in my opinion
268 AP Duo godr awake striker, awake ninja, 263ap tet bs suc zerk ile aakman denedim hep. Hiçbir zaman agris ve sarı sc ile saatte 400 500 600m alamadım. Parşömen,caphras, çöp... Hiçbir şekilde etmedi. Donebildigim en hızlı şekilde dönüyor güzel kombolar atıyorum ama olmuyor :D hatta polly vesaire de böyle benim için. Pollyden o kadar para alabilsem polly dönerim dönmesi çok keyifli succ zerk ile ama o da yok
Hystria doesn’t depend on the accessory drops, what? I’ve been stuck here for months even before the agris update.
I constantly get around 530+ with just trash, caphra, and pila (post update)
My trash using the agris + yellow of which you should be using for agris spot is avg 19853
Those numbers averages without rng drops.
I have 280 ap 340 dp succ hash. I was farming kratuga but i got bored. Where do you think would be the best slot after this.
Sycraia
I grind at aakman at 265 ap and i am nowhere near 400-500 mil without rnh drops so i would ask you at how much ap would you make that kind of money?
You may need more ap or need to increase your grind speed
can someoen suggest a good caphras spot 285ap/365 dp
Thornwood, sycraia, hystria, aakman
As for Warrior with Blackstar 285AP and 290AAP which spot would you suggest ?
Sycraia, Hystria, Aakman, Thornwood etc
Tbh the best spot for me is Jade forest, it scales with ur ap, the more you have the more silver u get,nit like certain grind spots were even if u have 100ap more than recommended the average silver is the same, I'm getting around 800-900m/h constantly at 293 ap at 305 I'm sure I can reach 1b+ , a well done spot
Yes you re right
My friends think im crazy when I talk about how good Jade can be. It is rng and it isn't always 800m +, but more times than not I get 800m an hour there. I will say that after the drop rate event ended it definitely dropped a bit more than other spots since it is a rng spot. I've had plenty of hours upwards of a bill though. It's slept on for sure. 294k btw.
@@aion6151 Very nice spot
@@aion6151 ye , if u get good rng is 1b+ for sure
Tbh when centaurs elvia comes idk what are they gonna do lol , are they gonna make them 2b per hour or what
There will not be such thing as Elvia Centaurs, so no worries
@@NahueAbr I mean, not in the near future, but hes kind of right.. one day, they will introduce mediah elvia, and then valencia elvia. Of course, the latter only our grandchildren would be able to enjoy it.
Or maybe they stop doing the "alternative" dimension thing, and start creating other dimensions from the magnus itself. Who knows.
@@aldodzb according to the lore, the King of Mediah stopped the Invasion of Haddoom. If PA decides to continue with this Elvia’s realm it will only until Mediah region (honestly, I look forward to seeing it)
@@NahueAbr oh interesting, had no idea about that lol I'm a R spam enjoyer
@@aldodzb I do the same xd but learned about Haddoom and the King reading in another website xD
I'm not hating but I don't really think most of these info are correct. As a musa 276AP, I dont get anywhere near 300-400m/hr when im grinding for potion piece. very cap~
edit: with 4 tier 4s and 1 tier 3 pets
what about t5 pets ?
at the start that was nice screenie... where u got that? don't tell me u take it yourself
All belong to me
@@Quendya dang
@@stuvthanz ?
@@Quendya opss sorry, that's how I say 'awesome' sometimes XD
I haven’t played the game months. What did they do to buff grind spots? Increased drop rates?
Increase value of trash and how agris effects them or doesn’t effect them.
If you can grind everyday all day all year, all spots are good no need to have guides. The only problem is... its god damn boring to grind 24/7
ok
So one question, im a 277 AP ninja in succession. Pila ku as example is said to Make around 400-500 Million. I kill really fast, all i get with caphras etc. In total is 300 Million at Best. I tested more spots Like sherekhan etc. Its Hard for me to understand how you are able to generate so much money, because me and my brother with same AP, are Not able to get so much trash loot that we come near that silver. It seems impossible to us. What class would i need to get that? Zerker probably?
YOu re playing assasian class and waiting good result from PvE spots. Your class is not viable like other ones.
I really like turo, you can go there with friend which makes that spot somehow less boring, I think it is possible to get 11k tl/h on blue/agris with proper classes and good GS. Only problem is it is hard to estimate real income as garmoth for ex. Count venomous night fang as 30k when its real value is ~20kk, ofc you have to spend extra time Doing scrolls but counting it as 30k is Just stupid.
You can change the value of each item by manually at garmoth xD xD
Selamlar, 250/305 gardiyan oynuyorum. Örnek olarak manşum ormanına gittim fakat 400-500 değerlerine ulaşamadığımı farkettim, eksiklerim neler olabilir fikrini almak istedim.
Manshaumda senin karkaterin yavaş kalıyor o yüzden. o spotta açıklama yaparken hızlı karakterlere daha uygun bir spot olduğuunu belirtmiştim
What am I doing wrong I'm only making 150mil a hour at Polly's
Idk
Ful T4+Alpha pet maybe and fast class
@@Estabanluis so what like Valkyrie would do?
@@rakeembeserker6400 yep valk really good for poly u can try and dont forget pets alpha pet
@@Estabanluis thanks
they are trying to bridge the gap between new and old players, they don't want old players getting much more than new ones, but that's stupid, it's an mmo and it should be like that, it's ridiculous that centaurs is the best grind spot in the game, much better than every elvia spots except quint hill, hexe santuary, and maybe orc camp too, if you can get like 700-800m per hour in centaurs, then you should be able to get AT LEAST 3b in hexe santuary or quint hill
It's a good guide. But why Star's end so few? I'm managing 900mil/hour in my 100+hrs of grindin there
Bcs it s RNG spot. numbers without RNG
@@Quendya I thought you took the general money/h numbers including Rng. Now it makes sense :D
Knk aksanindan anladım bizdensin o yüzden türkçe sorca. 3 ay önce yapimissin suan spotlarin durumu nasıl ? 272 ap 330dp ile.rn güzel parayi mirumoktami kadari. Ne tavsiye edersin
kanka adam cevaplamamıs bi ay geçmis sanada ben sorıyım 271 ap guard nerde farmlıyım
@@erdoqancalk2113 valla guard bence şu ağaçlar varya yürüyen ağaçlar orda farm la adı neydi unuttum 3 kişilik parti isteyen 240 ap isteyen agaclar
@@erdoqancalk2113 mirumok mirumok
Video başlığı quite satisfactory olsa keşke
Sen çekersen koyarsın
400-500m on manshaum, how? XD u drop 3/4x narc every hour or what
i disagree with your starsend silver per hours assessment, ieven garmoth says that its around 450mil per hour, and thats probably pretty close to what i averaged over 100 hours there, and ive had some 5 disto drop hours too making nearly 2 bil in an hour but that only makes up for some of the dry hours, i still think its much higher than your 150-200mil assessment
For some reason, author decided that it's better to show income without rng drops. Weird since it's kinda misleading.
Those numbers are without rng drops. Please listen explanation parts of my video. you can find tons of answers about your questions xD
@@Quendya seems strange to leave out some areas only reason to grind there...
You either have no idea how to grind castle ruins or had horrible party, average is atleast around 550m/h
Sycraia is my city
i make 1 billion from orc camp, use yellow and coin agris
Nice :)
People don't understand why someone @ a zone that requires like 80more ap doesn't make as much? Even a zone that needs 100moreap that barley makes more WITH good rng. Not only that but zero chance of dying and losing crystals? My season char can do 24+k @ centaurs. Centaurs is not a catch up, it's utterly broken and stupid when you make obsolete nearly every other zone. 281+ zones should always make more silver, if centaurs was cut in half it would still be stupid broken for such little gear requirement. The game basically fast-tracks you to 281+, those zones should be earning you more, basic zone progression. "Hilarious" "I don't understand" that's the true comedy. It's a fking 190 AP zone that's better by miles the whole of the 280+ap Winter Zone and nearly the whole game rofl. "NEW PLAYERS", no it's broken and horrible design. This game nearly has 24/7 drop rate events and give aways too, what's to catch up? Just slam your head and you have silver.
thx for the video
290 ap var miruya solo gitsem çöpten verim alabilir miyim üstad ? ben çöpten para kasan biriyim orklarda verim alamıyorum henüz. rng deyok bende :D çöplük lazım bana :D
Agrisle belki. Onun yerine yeşim yıldıza git agrisle iyidir
Has to be no hands player to make below 500mil/h at Orcs ngl. I do 500+ with 273k on new char i barely know
wait new players make 800m/h? where ?
Centaur Hystria Aakman Kratuga thornwood etc. If they know how to play their class they can get 700-800m average
@@Quendya but they dont and also they are missing 30% drop from knowledge and drop rate from connecting nodes im 100% sure that they dont have them connect and and new players cant grind on those spots it old players playing on low gear character with infinte pot and miraculous cheer 5 itryed on my friend fresh account u cant grind those spots on fresh account and make that much money and new player dont know how to play thier class that well and Centaur only for some classes a lot of classes dont do well there
@@Quendya also how are ppl making 200-500 m in poly forest the trash loot there is like 1.9k
@@tmax4750 Those are not my problems. they can learn game and they have insanely high potential early game spots. 6 months ago we did not have that privilage. Now as an endgame player i am suffering at 300ap+ spot and gets around 800-900m. problem is high endgame
@@Quendya as far is i know ppl make 1-1.5 bill in oluns and why do u want to make more silver u are max gear where are u going
Why nerf low end spots? Make getting gear easier so new players progress easier. Just buff high end spots
Thats what i suggest in video. Never told nerf early game
@@Quendya more or less reading the comments and was a general statement. Nice video
5:29
lvl 1 ls or lvl 2?
Both
@@Quendya ah, so the range is lvl 1 and lvl 2 yes?
@@FauzanR7 Yep around :)
i think a lot of the early game spots are fine i get wanting new players to catch up.... but centaurs needs to get nerfed in some aspect its ridiculous that u can make that much silver within less then a week of playing since u can grind there with seasonal gear. maybe make it so its not agris effecient or put it back to what it was before the last rework where it made 400-500m an hour. i think centaurs is the only big issue early game spot
i dont think the fix is nerfing spots, but buffing later spots
@@bobjoe2604 i agree, there is no need to nerf centaurs, simply buff other spots, why this hate against centaurs? you guys need to realize how hard it is for new players to gear up and having to catch up with years of grind.
@@iskasa0000 i'm a returning player and it's very difficult catching up, especially when it comes to AP
@@bobjoe2604 yes i totally agree with you, end game players should just shut up, they have hexe and trolls which are not 700 mil like quendia says, but they are 1 bil to 1.3 bil, which is much much more.
thing is tho centaurs is terrible for xp so u waste ur time going there, makes up for the money
PA sucks they dont build up the game just make everything messed up. Like why zerkers/valks can make 1b/h at centaurs while 95% of the mid/end game zones only give 300-600m/h while hexe and quint are the 2 best spots but theres like 5 more grind spots that require same or higher gear bit give 300m/h lol idk..
Wait... wut? So you place a 150ap spot there and you provide money/h made by 280ap player where is the logic? You don't make 200-500mil woth 150ap at polly, neither Ronaros with barely 240ap, just no. Advice - provide 2 separate income informations for both spot entry level gear and end game gear lol
ok
Hey man, thank you very much for the video! I honestly appreciate the effort and how detailed they are.
What can we say about Crescent Shrine? Do you how its silver/h? The reason I'm asking is because I've been grinding there for the past few days (Valk 266 AP) and I wanna know how it compares to other spots. Thanks!
It s rng based spot. Dont like that much. 150-250mil fix money. Rest rng
Cool, thanks!
kral her farmladıgımızı kumara atmamak ıcın psikolojilk tedavı dısında önerın var mı :D
yok. psikoloğa sevk edelim seni :D
Ben koktu bura
hocam şu an için geçerli mi bu bilgiler
evet
nerf centaurs, buff rhutum and saunil spots tbh
No, just buff saunil and rhutum.
Yea jus buff others I hate nerfs
Yeah how is tuvala grade spot at the same money/h as 280+ ap spots lol
@@seekkira catch up mechanic for new players better to help them gear than have ppl burn out early and quit
@@Saya-ew3jf yeah so they can get wrecked by 700gs players grinding 200ap zone bcs it gives better money than actually 300ap zones xD
Love the vid. Its hilarious how people get mad over centaurs lol. They dont even realise you did only 23k trash on valk there. Only classes that can do more is musa n zerker with infi mana pot and perfect movement, and 1500 weight minimum. People mad cus they cant get more money on orcs or other spots cus they sck at grinding. I honestly think garmoth is shit for trash numbers. I know people who do 23k trash blue no agris at orcs. So any1 doing less than 20k is doing it wrong. Get gud kekw
@@youreaqt3730 so what ? How do you expect a nee player to catch up ? You think anyone would play if they did 200 mil/h ?
You don't understand why someone @ a zone that requires like 80more ap doesn't make as much? Not only that but zero chance of dying and losing crystals? lol? My season char can do 24+k. Centaurs is not a catch up, it's utterly broken and stupid when you make obsolete nearly every other zone. 281+ zones should always make more silver, if centaurs was cut in half it would still be stupid broken for such little gear requirement. The game basically fast-tracks you to 281+, those zones should be earning you more, basic zone progression. "Hilarious" "I don't understand" that's the true comedy. It's a fking 190 AP zone that's better by miles the whole of the 280+ap Winter Zone and nearly the whole game rofl. "NEW PLAYERS", no it's broken and horrible design.
@@Despond no. You are just bad at grinding like 90% out there. I know people who can do 28-30 k trash only yellow at orcs, guess what i bet you cant. Get good
Damn 600 to 800mil for centaurs....wtf am I doing wrong...I'm lucky to walk away with 300 to maybe 400mil
Sometimes it's really class dependant. Musa/valk place
@@alba9898 that doesnt account for losing 500mill, zerker is great there too. They are doing something wrong in their rotation.
Everywhere 300 -400kk in hour, its a fake
Yes we all fake. We prepared this for you. Tried to draw attention The Torres and we succeed it. xd
@@Quendya I m awakening ranger 307 atack and in echo islad i doing 280-300 kk in trash for hour but not 500kk how you said 😂
@@torres1085 what is echo island?
@@torres1085 try another class u will se the difference
@@rogerperalta2162 Why need atoher class, I shot mobs there for two skils. My freins farm this spot for sword musa 301 atack and 1 hour trash 338kk
La abi bizede yap la türkçe içerik lazım
No way Centaurus provides this much profit in 1 hour. There isnt enough mob density.
and yet it does, you should grind it yourself if you don't believe it
@@benschofield6384 Do you recommend any specific spots? maybe i am in the wrong area
you exagerate so much whit that income
How are you not going to include desert Nagas? This video is trash
:D :D
your accent made my ears bleed a litle, but overall ok vid.
xD xD