As a scientist I can only agree with this message... there a good amount of conceit involved at some universities. Many scientists are specialists in one area and automatically assume that they are experts on *everything*, which is obviously wrong.
@@dave.h4075 yeah sure, the people that put the most effort into learning and understanding are somehow the ignorant people. and the people who just watch TV and consume magically have insights that can't be learned in books. OK. show me a chessmaster who never played. Who was just magically good. Or a basketball player who was good without playing. It is a fantasy of the less educated that they somehow have better insights than people who have put in the work.
@@proactivex of course they are. Because they are only learning about a single thing. Think about this for a minute. If you only ever drive to work, you never actually get out of the car and go into to do the job, you drive there from home over and over, you might know the route better than anyone else at the job, but you don't know anything else about the job. I'm a very real way, you are more ignorant than other people.
It is not anti-science to question claims made by people working academic institutions. The whole point of science is that the justifications of the claims should stand up to scrutiny. Not only by the scientific community, but by anybody interested.
I'm nearly in full agreement with you, the caveat being that the necessary background/education that it takes to scrutinize scientifically-derived assertions is not easily acquired by casual reading. This may sound elitist, but it is also realistic.
@@gracenotes5379 My problem is how we're not even allowed to criticize scientists making judgments about things completely outside their field, like physicists and their lapdogs making philosophical judgments about religion and shouting down anyone who doesn't favor state atheism as a dumb hick.
@@gracenotes5379 With that in mind, if even a casual reader can ask "if your claim is true, than how come blah blah blah?" and that questioning person be censored, de-platformed and treated like a, well, a terrorist or an idiot, THEN I would say something is seriously out of whack. Surely there can be little threat to at least addressing the questions--which are obvious enough to be formed when a relatively uneducated, but nonetheless commonsense, rational person sees contradictions in the narrative and "the Science" as it's put forth. The not only reluctance to entertain any sort of "questioning" and "skepticism" of "the Science" (as we see now, in 2023 and near history of the past few years) but also the aggression with which questioning of "the Science" is met by both gov't and scientists acting as spokespersons, by media and professionals in related fields, is DISCONCERTING to say the least. And when informed, educated in the field or specialty of science being questioned are also censored, de-platformed and treated as a threat to "the Science" THEN we really, really are in deepest excrement as a world, as a society, as a culture. When debate is seen as a threat, Lewis's fears are certainly coming true. Debate is shut down. Skepticism is being ferreted out by algorithms. We are told to "trust the Science." But by no means, question "the Science"--or else. We've already passed the line that would separate what it might become and what it could become, and have shifted into that new reality of what it has become, and what it is daily BECOMING. "Science" as a "thing" was based on theories, constantly being tested, questioned and often scrapped, as the questions are informed by new discoveries, and then new theories have to be come up with. To be forbidden to question "the Science"--whether a king or a knave or a scientist--means we are now living in the dystopia Lewis feared. And "the Science" we are commanded to put our faith in isn't really even "scientific" if it can no longer be tested and questioned and met with skepticism. It should never be a question of FAITH or trust! It's not religion! Or is it? I fear, with Lewis, as in That Hideous Strength, science used to further power, corporations, exploitation, greed, war. And scientists are bought and paid for, like everyone else in the scheme. A truly prescient book, but why not? The roots of what we are seeing now were already there and growing when Lewis wrote the book. The "types" of people who are behind what we are now seeing were there then.
It is horrifying that some scientists think that because thy have excelled is some narrow field they have the right to rule. Such people might be intelligent, but they are not wise. Wisdom is of far greater value when making decisions that affects other people. How naive and dogmatic must those who believe scientism be. Do they even have a clear understanding for what science is, and what it is not? Scientific results tend to be accurate about the banal, but are vague and unreliable about the complex. It can tell you how to effectively reach a goal, but it cannot tell what your goal should be.
Great stuff, but needed to go deeper. As a member of the people I want to keep control of my life, I want science to serve me. Not me serve science. It's like when my company said I was a human resource. I had always believed the company was my resource. Their twisted thinking eventually crashed the company. from Ireland.
My favourite scene in That Hideous Strength is the one in which the evil professor is giving a speech, which is applauded at times by the audience, but then his speech slowly disintegrates into arrant nonsense, then mere gibberish--but people kept applauding.
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and gravely to be regarded. Holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must always be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become a captive of a scientific-technological elite." --President Eisenhower, 17 Jan 1961
Eisenhower was smarter than people think he was. Just for the record, his fault was his failure to start making provisions for the large generation born after World War II. But anybody who wanted to do that would have been hamstrung by the Southern contingent in the Senate, who would do nothing because they knew that anything done would have to operate under the right to equal protection of the law. They promoted a self-serving constitutional theory which held that the federal government could act only under certain expressed powers. When they went along the interstate highway system, they insisted it be called the National Defense Highway System. When, after the trauma of Sputnik, they finally consented to some federal aid to education, they insisted the federal act to aid education be called the National Defense Education Act. Apart from his likely incognizance of the issue, Eisenhower would not have been able to act on the issue of expanding higher education and other related issues even if he had wanted to. About the only public program the South was willing to go along with that treated blacks and whites equally was Social Security. Unless you count also the military draft.
What an amazing man, an Ulster man. He has so much writings that have alot of truth in them. There's definitely much more to him that the lion the witch and the wardrobe!
I wish it was as straight forward as you write it, however it’s not. It’s about power, control and greed. Ask Einstein or Tesla or read about what they said. Look what happened to them both. They were attacked right and left. I mean look at Charles Darwin. He didn’t even believe the evolution he wrote about he admitted. All hypothetical. They want you to believe we cane from Apes. SMH.... we are still so primitive and until we reach a spiritual level within ourselves and not have our hidden agendas in the name of power, controls d greed we will never advance. I often think how awesome we would be without those people. Or if they spiritually awaken! Until then we must wait I guess till the stars realign...
@@peterholden2016 (and anyone reading this two years later), you should definitely read it. But read it in daylight. Lewis is incisive and inspiring, and the material strikes a little too close to home for comfort.
@@peterholden2016 Did you read it? Cosmic Trilogy, among a handful of books I read again every few years. It's well time I read THS again, so applicable to what we are now going through. I think it's much worse than the book, as the technology is so advanced, and there's a global movement of evil now to be reckoned with. Though any of us will have to deal with it at the most mundane level of our own daily functioning, just as the characters in the book. If you read it two years ago, well, in the past two years, it's even more pertinent!
I have read this book twice. I was also a student at Oxford while Lewis was still teaching. "That hideous strength" is a distillation of the arguments that would have taken place regularly in the Senior Common Rooms of Oxford colleges at the time. It captures beautifully the mood and flavour of Oxford in the years around the end of the Second World War. Another example of the controversy was between F R Leavis and C P Snow. The video is projecting too much into the text, which is the third of a trilogy, the others being 'Out of the silent planet" and Voyage to Venus.
I can't remember ever hearing of "That Hideous Strength". I also am very concerned about the corrosive notion that mere people can't understand science and should therefore accept scientists' word by faith. I've _got_ to read this right away.
It's part of C.S. Lewis' space trilogy. Out of the Silent Planet, Perilandra, and That Hideous Strength. It can be read separately but there are references to the to the other books that may not make sense but don't detract from the story.
@@sammyairlines9307 I'm going to be horribly pedantic and correct a mistake I've made myself. Lewis would not have approved of the designation "The Space Trilogy." A large theme in Out of the Silent Planet is that the realm beyond our atmosphere is not empty space but the resonant heavens.
I found the introduction of Merlin, Logres and the rest confusing. But the book and the trilogy are enjoyable and thought provoking. If you can, you should read them in order.
Maybe when people study for a Ph.D, they should spend a bit more time studying philosophy, to promote morality and wisdom, in line with scientific and academic achievement. At the end of the day though, it all comes down to what you are willing to do for money, reputation and power. Having spent time in a scientific environment, it is all to easy to become enclosed in a ‘bubble’ and allow your ego to run away with you. This is one reason why students are so easy to radicalise.
I feel this is where mental illness or distress viewed exclusively through a scientific lens could be really dangerous. Not all but many mental illness’s (especially the high modern prevalence of them) are not a matter of scientific analysis or discussion but of a spiritual/philosophical realm.
While I can certainly say that a primary issue here has been the fundamental lack of philosophical teaching within what is now called the 'sciences', I think it is merely the old issue of hubris. The main difference is that there is so much to know today and so few who know enough nor have the platform to critique in a meaningful way so as to be heard by the majority of the populace. The other issue is that those who spread the information (mostly journalists) have forgone the idea of 'teach the controversy' and merely proclaim the viewpoints of those whom they already agree with. Because if you are actually in the sciences and actively reading the literature then you will be aware of the disagreements and discussions (at least in most fields: there are some fields that tolerate less dissent).
As a society we no longer concentrate on developing good character in our children. As a result we have adults who's only concern is to see the flaws in society and never to see the flaws in their own character. We have allowed the rise of scientocracy during this Covid 19 pandemic. We rely on computer modelling to address issues that should be addressed by ethical and moral standards. The result is we have given over our responsibility for our ongoing progress as a society to computers. Next we will give control of our human evolution to artificial intelligence, and THAT will be the end of human societal progress for ever.
Thankyou for this excellent video! Someone once told me that the reason Mary Shelley wrote frankenstein was to show the excesses of science, and to beware! It does seem that science fiction does eventually merge with reality. Empirical knowledge does have its place, but the spiritual should be at the forefront of mans quest for a bal anced progress! In the scientific american magazine recently had an article entitled', The deeper we look into physics, the more it brings us inexorably back to mind'. Not sure if thats the exact title, but it speaks volumes!
I have never heard the phrase, "Orwellian dystopia" being used as a descriptor for the times we live with such regularity. C. S. Lewis knew man because he knew himself and he knew God, as well as being a genius. He hung out with Tolkien and Orwell and used to share stories with each other. Did you know that Lewis, Tolkien and JFK all died on the same day? November 22, 1963 (I just read that!)
@@kirstyi7860 The specifics are what impressed me. In particular, this book depicts men who discuss the idea of "becoming" god. I believe there was one character who said it would be "one" individual who would scramble to the top. Its sort of the ultimate inversion of reality. Man takes his evolution myth to its logical extension. Instead of one God who is the beginning creating what is lesser, the lesser evolves into "god". Fascinating to watch the satanic inversion of reality unfold in front of your eyes, both in fiction and reality.
Scientists are the opposite of what you want in a leader. The ideal of the philosopher king that Plato put forth as the ultimate ruler, is the opposite of a scientist. The philosopher king has broad knowledge, as opposed to narrow expertise in a limited field like a scientist.
Can't deny this Bible verse: “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” Daniel 12:4 Men of the greatest intellect cannot understand the mysteries of Jehovah as revealed in nature. Divine inspiration asks many questions which the most profound scholar cannot answer. These questions were not asked that we might answer them, but to call our attention to the deep mysteries of God and to teach us that our wisdom is limited; that in the surroundings of our daily life there are many things beyond the comprehension of finite minds; that the judgment and purposes of God are past finding out. His wisdom is unsearchable. 8T 261.1
When it comes to science, I stand for ethics and morals. I'm very big on these! Science when put into the wrong hands, it can be abused and used for bad. Look at history you have, the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, Eugenics/Sterilization, Josef Mengele, Unit 731, etc. Before doing an experiment, one must consider morals, safety and value of life before doing so.
@andy low unfourtunently ignorance is so common it mixes with everything including both christianity and athiesm. If I were to choose between christian scientsts and athiest scientists I would choose christian, for of the two only christianity demands truth and honesty above survival and wealth.
The very suggestion, "science is above critique by laymen" is the antithesis of "the scientific method", very little science that is real, is so esoteric, only the expert can understand it, as anyone can choose to follow such methodology, just in reading, and study, and complete a course of study even, by such, and dive into "chemistry" for instance, at the point they believe they have a substantial understanding of it, and go forward, perhaps correcting a small error here and there, but expecting to make no extraordinary error, if one follows with care. I've studied biology, chemistry and physics most of my sixty odd years of life, I got multiple sclerosis, in 90, returning from the Gulf, and had cause to study virology to the extreme, to know when my neurologist was accurate, and when he was stating " the official line" of doctorhood. I've had twenty eight years of medical treatment, with little feedback from doctors, at first, only guessing at mechanics of the medicine, later, much more complex considerations, but by my delving, quite wrong in many regards, and I'm doing better without the monoclonal antibodies, five months out, than with, most of my loss has been caused by the drugs, interacting with each other, and breaking down parts of my immune system. This data only just now came, because of the use of them for "the carnivorous 19". My neurologist ignored my symptoms, given, wanting answers to his suggested symptoms, as if the official ones were all that mattered. I've long believed being healthy is a matter of keeping our body well fed, proper diet, full nutrition, if we get sick, something is lacking, missing, or weak. No one who began treatment with me, remained when I quit, hadn't for over five years, and my doctor could never tell me when, what or why I would ultimately end, without dying of a brain infection, although that was his, and all the profession's, greatest fear. My doctor didn't practice science, but politics of neurology, as controlled by St. Fauci. I am a mechanic, metallurgist, machinist, tool maker, I worked classified electronics two decades for the Corps, and have remained conversant in those sciences, all my life. Every scientist began as a kid with an imagination. Most went into practical jobs, that paid enough to live, get married, have kids. Only the best can devote the whole of life to it, and risk easily losing any connection with the rest of humanity. Semper Fidelis,
Interesting that we eventually acquired a LITERAL N.I.C.E....set up by the UK government as the National Instute of Clinical Excellence...about 15 years ago I think...!
God meant for man to be free. All truth leads to freedom, but truth has become their destroyer, those who would deny you freedom. They don't want you to know the truth.
While it is believed that one human mind so wonderfully affects another, Satan, who is ready to press every advantage, insinuates himself and works on the right hand and on the left. And while those who are devoted to these sciences laud them to the heavens because of the great and good works which they affirm are wrought by them, they little know what a power for evil they are cherishing; but it is a power which will yet work with all signs and lying wonders-with all deceivableness of unrighteousness. Mark the influence of these sciences, dear reader, for the conflict between Christ and Satan is not yet ended. 1MCP 20.1
Traditional ethics haven't worked out so well, thus far, so how about not (proving insanity) over again, by doing the same thing and let's try something new. How about we give humanitarianism a break and let survival of the fittest work. A simple overview of cause and effect will show if you keep pandering to the lowest common denominator, you will become that which you support, the lowest common denominator.
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As a scientist I can only agree with this message... there a good amount of conceit involved at some universities. Many scientists are specialists in one area and automatically assume that they are experts on *everything*, which is obviously wrong.
Improving with Flausbert: Ancient Principles Do you think that is possibly common practice with intellectuals as well?
@@dave.h4075 yeah sure, the people that put the most effort into learning and understanding are somehow the ignorant people. and the people who just watch TV and consume magically have insights that can't be learned in books. OK. show me a chessmaster who never played. Who was just magically good. Or a basketball player who was good without playing. It is a fantasy of the less educated that they somehow have better insights than people who have put in the work.
@@proactivex of course they are. Because they are only learning about a single thing.
Think about this for a minute. If you only ever drive to work, you never actually get out of the car and go into to do the job, you drive there from home over and over, you might know the route better than anyone else at the job, but you don't know anything else about the job. I'm a very real way, you are more ignorant than other people.
@@proactivex There are ditches on both sides of the road.
I read That Hideous Strength in April of 2020 during the covid lockdowns. It is scary how prophetic Lewis was.
It is not anti-science to question claims made by people working academic institutions. The whole point of science is that the justifications of the claims should stand up to scrutiny. Not only by the scientific community, but by anybody interested.
I'm nearly in full agreement with you, the caveat being that the necessary background/education that it takes to scrutinize scientifically-derived assertions is not easily acquired by casual reading. This may sound elitist, but it is also realistic.
@@gracenotes5379 My problem is how we're not even allowed to criticize scientists making judgments about things completely outside their field, like physicists and their lapdogs making philosophical judgments about religion and shouting down anyone who doesn't favor state atheism as a dumb hick.
@@gracenotes5379 With that in mind, if even a casual reader can ask "if your claim is true, than how come blah blah blah?" and that questioning person be censored, de-platformed and treated like a, well, a terrorist or an idiot, THEN I would say something is seriously out of whack. Surely there can be little threat to at least addressing the questions--which are obvious enough to be formed when a relatively uneducated, but nonetheless commonsense, rational person sees contradictions in the narrative and "the Science" as it's put forth. The not only reluctance to entertain any sort of "questioning" and "skepticism" of "the Science" (as we see now, in 2023 and near history of the past few years) but also the aggression with which questioning of "the Science" is met by both gov't and scientists acting as spokespersons, by media and professionals in related fields, is DISCONCERTING to say the least.
And when informed, educated in the field or specialty of science being questioned are also censored, de-platformed and treated as a threat to "the Science" THEN we really, really are in deepest excrement as a world, as a society, as a culture. When debate is seen as a threat, Lewis's fears are certainly coming true. Debate is shut down. Skepticism is being ferreted out by algorithms. We are told to "trust the Science." But by no means, question "the Science"--or else.
We've already passed the line that would separate what it might become and what it could become, and have shifted into that new reality of what it has become, and what it is daily BECOMING. "Science" as a "thing" was based on theories, constantly being tested, questioned and often scrapped, as the questions are informed by new discoveries, and then new theories have to be come up with. To be forbidden to question "the Science"--whether a king or a knave or a scientist--means we are now living in the dystopia Lewis feared. And "the Science" we are commanded to put our faith in isn't really even "scientific" if it can no longer be tested and questioned and met with skepticism. It should never be a question of FAITH or trust! It's not religion! Or is it? I fear, with Lewis, as in That Hideous Strength, science used to further power, corporations, exploitation, greed, war. And scientists are bought and paid for, like everyone else in the scheme.
A truly prescient book, but why not? The roots of what we are seeing now were already there and growing when Lewis wrote the book. The "types" of people who are behind what we are now seeing were there then.
Some people worship the creation and not the creator.
Yeah, they are called children of satan
"I dread government in the name of science. This is how tyrannies come in." That's exactly what's happening now.
It is horrifying that some scientists think that because thy have excelled is some narrow field they have the right to rule. Such people might be intelligent, but they are not wise. Wisdom is of far greater value when making decisions that affects other people. How naive and dogmatic must those who believe scientism be. Do they even have a clear understanding for what science is, and what it is not? Scientific results tend to be accurate about the banal, but are vague and unreliable about the complex. It can tell you how to effectively reach a goal, but it cannot tell what your goal should be.
Great stuff, but needed to go deeper. As a member of the people I want to keep control of my life, I want science to serve me. Not me serve science. It's like when my company said I was a human resource. I had always believed the company was my resource. Their twisted thinking eventually crashed the company. from Ireland.
Have you read the book, and the other two of which this is the last of the trilogy?
Man’s quest for control is the very opposite of God’s plan for humanity.
That's why Yahweh intervened at the Tower of Babel.
.... "Lucifer's" quest for Mankind.
Freemasonry's Quest for Mankind....
I didn't think I could appreciate/respect/look up to CS any more than I already did... Wow
My favourite scene in That Hideous Strength is the one in which the evil professor is giving a speech, which is applauded at times by the audience, but then his speech slowly disintegrates into arrant nonsense, then mere gibberish--but people kept applauding.
Just started reading This Hideous Strength and I'm beginning to see the alarming relevance in 2022 JRM January 1, 2022 at 9:05 AM
How appropriate for these very times.
"Attacking me is attacking science" - Dr. Anthony Fauci, the man who admitted lyimg many times about Coronavirus.
Fauci should be in jail for lying to Congress and the American people about funding of gain-of-function research.
I find it quite ironic that TH-cam's algorithm has figured out that I would like this. Big Science is watching.
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and gravely to be regarded.
Holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must always be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become a captive of a scientific-technological elite." --President Eisenhower, 17 Jan 1961
Eisenhower was smarter than people think he was. Just for the record, his fault was his failure to start making provisions for the large generation born after World War II. But anybody who wanted to do that would have been hamstrung by the Southern contingent in the Senate, who would do nothing because they knew that anything done would have to operate under the right to equal protection of the law. They promoted a self-serving constitutional theory which held that the federal government could act only under certain expressed powers. When they went along the interstate highway system, they insisted it be called the National Defense Highway System. When, after the trauma of Sputnik, they finally consented to some federal aid to education, they insisted the federal act to aid education be called the National Defense Education Act.
Apart from his likely incognizance of the issue, Eisenhower would not have been able to act on the issue of expanding higher education and other related issues even if he had wanted to. About the only public program the South was willing to go along with that treated blacks and whites equally was Social Security. Unless you count also the military draft.
@@anonymike8280 Eisenhower was also involved with the elite.
What an amazing man, an Ulster man. He has so much writings that have alot of truth in them. There's definitely much more to him that the lion the witch and the wardrobe!
" You do not fall in Obedience through lack of love , but have lost love because you never attempted obedience "
------ That Hideous Strength
That's....
That is so true and so profound!
@@howardking3601 yes sir it is !
C.S. Lewis is gone but at least we still have his student, Professor John Lennox.😄
I wish it was as straight forward as you write it, however it’s not. It’s about power, control and greed. Ask Einstein or Tesla or read about what they said. Look what happened to them both. They were attacked right and left. I mean look at Charles Darwin. He didn’t even believe the evolution he wrote about he admitted. All hypothetical. They want you to believe we cane from Apes. SMH.... we are still so primitive and until we reach a spiritual level within ourselves and not have our hidden agendas in the name of power, controls d greed we will never advance. I often think how awesome we would be without those people. Or if they spiritually awaken!
Until then we must wait I guess till the stars realign...
Indeed..... Kristyn Getty's dad. 😊
Loooove John Lennox!
Didn't know that, thanks @Pasteghost 42
Thanks for posting this...very relevant and speaks to what is going on today!
The whole Ransom trilogy was so good.
Great book. Creepiest of Lewis. He shows the heart of the man though dialog better than anybody I've read.
Only just finishing Perelandra, are you saying things get creepier than the un-man? Just want to know whether I should avoid reading it in the dark.
@@peterholden2016 (and anyone reading this two years later), you should definitely read it. But read it in daylight. Lewis is incisive and inspiring, and the material strikes a little too close to home for comfort.
@@peterholden2016 Did you read it? Cosmic Trilogy, among a handful of books I read again every few years. It's well time I read THS again, so applicable to what we are now going through. I think it's much worse than the book, as the technology is so advanced, and there's a global movement of evil now to be reckoned with. Though any of us will have to deal with it at the most mundane level of our own daily functioning, just as the characters in the book. If you read it two years ago, well, in the past two years, it's even more pertinent!
I have read this book twice. I was also a student at Oxford while Lewis was still teaching. "That hideous strength" is a distillation of the arguments that would have taken place regularly in the Senior Common Rooms of Oxford colleges at the time. It captures beautifully the mood and flavour of Oxford in the years around the end of the Second World War. Another example of the controversy was between F R Leavis and C P Snow.
The video is projecting too much into the text, which is the third of a trilogy, the others being 'Out of the silent planet" and Voyage to Venus.
I completed my dissertation on this book, was captivated by it. How lucky you were to be in his company.
Science is merely the observation of the sacred.
I can't remember ever hearing of "That Hideous Strength". I also am very concerned about the corrosive notion that mere people can't understand science and should therefore accept scientists' word by faith. I've _got_ to read this right away.
It's part of C.S. Lewis' space trilogy. Out of the Silent Planet, Perilandra, and That Hideous Strength. It can be read separately but there are references to the to the other books that may not make sense but don't detract from the story.
@@sammyairlines9307 I'm going to be horribly pedantic and correct a mistake I've made myself. Lewis would not have approved of the designation "The Space Trilogy." A large theme in Out of the Silent Planet is that the realm beyond our atmosphere is not empty space but the resonant heavens.
I've been thinking about re-reading That Hideous Strength because the current CCP Virus situation reminds of things in the book.
I found the introduction of Merlin, Logres and the rest confusing. But the book and the trilogy are enjoyable and thought provoking. If you can, you should read them in order.
You're in for such an adventure. It's one of my favourite books of all times. Good luck 👍
Maybe when people study for a Ph.D, they should spend a bit more time studying philosophy, to promote morality and wisdom, in line with scientific and academic achievement. At the end of the day though, it all comes down to what you are willing to do for money, reputation and power. Having spent time in a scientific environment, it is all to easy to become enclosed in a ‘bubble’ and allow your ego to run away with you. This is one reason why students are so easy to radicalise.
Dr. Fauci: "I am science." He's one of the ones Lewis warned us about.
I feel this is where mental illness or distress viewed exclusively through a scientific lens could be really dangerous. Not all but many mental illness’s (especially the high modern prevalence of them) are not a matter of scientific analysis or discussion but of a spiritual/philosophical realm.
While I can certainly say that a primary issue here has been the fundamental lack of philosophical teaching within what is now called the 'sciences', I think it is merely the old issue of hubris. The main difference is that there is so much to know today and so few who know enough nor have the platform to critique in a meaningful way so as to be heard by the majority of the populace. The other issue is that those who spread the information (mostly journalists) have forgone the idea of 'teach the controversy' and merely proclaim the viewpoints of those whom they already agree with. Because if you are actually in the sciences and actively reading the literature then you will be aware of the disagreements and discussions (at least in most fields: there are some fields that tolerate less dissent).
"I am the science" Tony Faucci
This needs to be required viewing and teaching for every level of the educational system.
morality can never be left to man.
As a society we no longer concentrate on developing good character in our children. As a result we have adults who's only concern is to see the flaws in society and never to see the flaws in their own character. We have allowed the rise of scientocracy during this Covid 19 pandemic. We rely on computer modelling to address issues that should be addressed by ethical and moral standards. The result is we have given over our responsibility for our ongoing progress as a society to computers. Next we will give control of our human evolution to artificial intelligence, and THAT will be the end of human societal progress for ever.
Thankyou for this excellent video! Someone once told me that the reason Mary Shelley wrote frankenstein was to show the excesses of science, and to beware! It does seem that science fiction does eventually merge with reality. Empirical knowledge does have its place, but the spiritual should be at the forefront of mans quest for a bal anced progress! In the scientific american magazine recently had an article entitled', The deeper we look into physics, the more it brings us inexorably back to mind'. Not sure if thats the exact title, but it speaks volumes!
Years ago I listened to this book and thought, "How did this guy know?" And look around us. Its happening. Fauci anyone?
I have never heard the phrase, "Orwellian dystopia" being used as a descriptor for the times we live with such regularity.
C. S. Lewis knew man because he knew himself and he knew God, as well as being a genius.
He hung out with Tolkien and Orwell and used to share stories with each other.
Did you know that Lewis, Tolkien and JFK all died on the same day? November 22, 1963 (I just read that!)
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The specifics are what impressed me. In particular, this book depicts men who discuss the idea of "becoming" god. I believe there was one character who said it would be "one" individual who would scramble to the top. Its sort of the ultimate inversion of reality. Man takes his evolution myth to its logical extension. Instead of one God who is the beginning creating what is lesser, the lesser evolves into "god". Fascinating to watch the satanic inversion of reality unfold in front of your eyes, both in fiction and reality.
Scientists are the opposite of what you want in a leader. The ideal of the philosopher king that Plato put forth as the ultimate ruler, is the opposite of a scientist. The philosopher king has broad knowledge, as opposed to narrow expertise in a limited field like a scientist.
Did you ever wonder where the term "Talking Head" came from? Ta Da!!
Jesus is the seasoning for our reasoning.
The Perelandra Trilogy and in particular That Hideous Strength are excellent works vastly underrated.
As usual, Lewis was right.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
I wish there was a longer version.
THS is the last book in the trilogy.
Brilliantly brought to “ life” again
Well said CSLewis
Can't deny this Bible verse:
“But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
Daniel 12:4
Men of the greatest intellect cannot understand the mysteries of Jehovah as revealed in nature. Divine inspiration asks many questions which the most profound scholar cannot answer. These questions were not asked that we might answer them, but to call our attention to the deep mysteries of God and to teach us that our wisdom is limited; that in the surroundings of our daily life there are many things beyond the comprehension of finite minds; that the judgment and purposes of God are past finding out. His wisdom is unsearchable. 8T 261.1
Another good video upload by the Discovery Science, keep up the good work
This describes Fauci to a "T".
one of the greatest philosophers of recent memory.
This looks like quite a documentary! This clip is informative.
He predicted today.
Scientism is rife in our culture
in pursuit of immortality...
Nice. It would have been even better if the quotes all had dates on them
I wish the book made more sense to me. So hard to understand. (English is my second lang.)
At least I found a video like this! Thank you!
Jesus is the truth
Welcome to technocracy, welcome to the global reset.
Interesting to found support in Lewis, a theistic evolutionist ;)
Brilliant!
We have a front row seat to witness this play out
What a wonderful video! Well done.
When it comes to science, I stand for ethics and morals. I'm very big on these!
Science when put into the wrong hands, it can be abused and used for bad.
Look at history you have, the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, Eugenics/Sterilization, Josef Mengele, Unit 731, etc.
Before doing an experiment, one must consider morals, safety and value of life before doing so.
Prophesy fulfilled.
lewis was spot on with his book! closer to what really was about to happen than orwell or huxley!
Great and terrifying video. The credits music is assault.
Wow, sad our hypocrisy at the things we did even here in the USA.
Atheism and science are a bad mix.
@andy low unfourtunently ignorance is so common it mixes with everything including both christianity and athiesm.
If I were to choose between christian scientsts and athiest scientists I would choose christian, for of the two only christianity demands truth and honesty above survival and wealth.
"...to think well, to think critically, to think rationally..." Uh, forgot to mention "...to think *_ethically..._* That needs stating.
GOD bless u
Of the 4200+ known religions, if I may respectfully, please ask.. which one are you referring to?
You right, Lewis thought and knew that Science was a good thing.
The most important video on youtube.
What musical score is at the end of this video?
Dr. Fauci???
Hello Richard Dawkins!
Good video......background music volume should be turned down a lot tho.
Humans are extremely powerful and extremely destructive when they play the game by ignoring the rules
The very suggestion, "science is above critique by laymen" is the antithesis of "the scientific method", very little science that is real, is so esoteric, only the expert can understand it, as anyone can choose to follow such methodology, just in reading, and study, and complete a course of study even, by such, and dive into "chemistry" for instance, at the point they believe they have a substantial understanding of it, and go forward, perhaps correcting a small error here and there, but expecting to make no extraordinary error, if one follows with care.
I've studied biology, chemistry and physics most of my sixty odd years of life, I got multiple sclerosis, in 90, returning from the Gulf, and had cause to study virology to the extreme, to know when my neurologist was accurate, and when he was stating " the official line" of doctorhood. I've had twenty eight years of medical treatment, with little feedback from doctors, at first, only guessing at mechanics of the medicine, later, much more complex considerations, but by my delving, quite wrong in many regards, and I'm doing better without the monoclonal antibodies, five months out, than with, most of my loss has been caused by the drugs, interacting with each other, and breaking down parts of my immune system. This data only just now came, because of the use of them for "the carnivorous 19". My neurologist ignored my symptoms, given, wanting answers to his suggested symptoms, as if the official ones were all that mattered. I've long believed being healthy is a matter of keeping our body well fed, proper diet, full nutrition, if we get sick, something is lacking, missing, or weak. No one who began treatment with me, remained when I quit, hadn't for over five years, and my doctor could never tell me when, what or why I would ultimately end, without dying of a brain infection, although that was his, and all the profession's, greatest fear. My doctor didn't practice science, but politics of neurology, as controlled by St. Fauci. I am a mechanic, metallurgist, machinist, tool maker, I worked classified electronics two decades for the Corps, and have remained conversant in those sciences, all my life. Every scientist began as a kid with an imagination. Most went into practical jobs, that paid enough to live, get married, have kids. Only the best can devote the whole of life to it, and risk easily losing any connection with the rest of humanity. Semper Fidelis,
One of the definitions of the xx century is: Almighty Man vs Almighty God
excellent piece
This is now.
When I hear of Mr. Hariri, I think, I'm hearing a speech of Prof Augustus Frost. That is no philosophy, that is pure craving for power.
I wonder if Paul Feyerabend was influenced by this when he wrote Against Method.
Interesting..
Enter expert, Bill Gates
Very adept given the times.
Humanity: "I will rule by my own rule!"
N.I C E Exists in the UK already National Institute of core excellence how ironic
What’s the music at the end
Harpsichord Solo by Pekka Tarvainen, licensed through Pond5:
www.pond5.com/royalty-free-music/item/10874664-harpsichord-solo
Sound like BILL GATES? Speaking in the name of science dictating to everyone else? - Scientocracy 2020
Also experiments with orphans! We have seen, Lewis did not knowing all badness in human minds, but he guessed it.
Brilliant
Interesting that we eventually acquired a LITERAL N.I.C.E....set up by the UK government as the National Instute of Clinical Excellence...about 15 years ago I think...!
The magician's twin? Uncle Andrew?
God meant for man to be free. All truth leads to freedom, but truth has become their destroyer, those who would deny you freedom. They don't want you to know the truth.
While it is believed that one human mind so wonderfully affects another, Satan, who is ready to press every advantage, insinuates himself and works on the right hand and on the left. And while those who are devoted to these sciences laud them to the heavens because of the great and good works which they affirm are wrought by them, they little know what a power for evil they are cherishing; but it is a power which will yet work with all signs and lying wonders-with all deceivableness of unrighteousness. Mark the influence of these sciences, dear reader, for the conflict between Christ and Satan is not yet ended. 1MCP 20.1
Faccheeeeeeeeeee
“The right to rule based on their scientific knowledge and expertise”? Why is that a bad thing lol
We're here with covid bullshit
We are living in the days of deceit go to Barny The Preacher on TH-cam and watch The Days of Lot >
NICE... Do you mean NIH
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Is Science Demonically Inspired? and Would you like some "Innocent Blood Pudding?".
Traditional ethics haven't worked out so well, thus far, so how about not (proving insanity) over again, by doing the same thing and let's try something new. How about we give humanitarianism a break and let survival of the fittest work. A simple overview of cause and effect will show if you keep pandering to the lowest common denominator, you will become that which you support, the lowest common denominator.
A sadly-neglected work of Lewis's.