Lineman Belt 101 for Hunters
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.พ. 2018
- Hunters - there is no reason you shouldn't be safe climbing the tree. We all understand the importance of safety harnesses in a tree stands. You should be just as safe while climbing the tree. Converting to a tree saddle, or saddle hunting is one way to be completely safe when hunting above the ground.
I call the Ropeman 1 a "mechanical prussic" in the video. I was unaware that there is an actual device called a mechanical prussic that functions differently than the Ropeman 1. For purposes of this video, the Ropeman is a mechanical replacement for a prussic knot.
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This is the best video I've found describing the ins and outs of how to operate lineman's belts - absolutely awesome content!
Was a lineman for a over three decades and what you term as a "lineman's belt" is actually called a lanyard (flip line in arborist community). In the old days, we used a heavy, flat, rubberized piece of webbing with snaps on each end to hitch hike up a pole. It was simply called a safety. A lineman's belt was what we climbed in, similar to a tree saddle with no leg straps. As Urban Hunter says, NEVER use non locking carabiners for life support. There are many different styles and brands of flip line slack adjusters, the Ropeman is one.
GET OUTDOORS!!! Best words I have heard from a youngster in years!! The prussic knot is one of the handiest knots EVER!! I use one on my lifeline, have one for linemans belt to set up sticks and set stand,and lower stand same way... simple!! I do like that fancy one tho and imagine in a saddle it is probably best!!
Great demo vid on the usefulness of the lineman belt!
You have a nice career ahead of you, young man. Kudos. Stay humble.
Thank you very much! Appreciate the support!!!
I just bought this set up with the rope man 1, and it’s just as he says. Now when I set my tree stands I don’t worry about falling and becoming a paraplegic...!!!
Dude, I'm excited and depressed at the same time. Just got a Ropeman 1 in the mail and tested it out. Man! So awesome. Almost a "must have" piece of gear. I'm just depressed I've been missing out on it all these years.
Joe P agreed. They're fantastic!
These videos are so great!
+Alekart thanks man. Glad you enjoy them.
I got this idea from another guy on here. He also recommends the ropeman. I can’t remember his name but he has a podcast as well. As you said, I can’t recommend a lineman’s belt and the ropeman enough. I use mine with climbing sticks and a hang on. Makes it so much easier.
Other guy is right there in related videos: tbwpodcast.
Question can i use the saftey harness that came with my summit for this.its has presik knot and i cannuse other carbiner
I’m an arm amputee and currently hunt out of a climber stand. I want to get into saddle hunting. I am a rock climber so I do have climbing experience and knowledge in knots and I can belay. But haven’t seen saddle hunting setup in person. I think I can do all the steps but what I see might be a challenge is getting the linemen rope to slide up the tree. Any suggestions? I also shoot a compound bow with one arm.
Do you leave your ropeman1 on your linemans belt during storage? I worry about the spring wearing out.
What kind of Saddle belt are you wearing to attach that linesman carabiners to?
The Ropeman 1 is back in stock at Backcountrygear!!!
Thanks for all the great tips.
What knot do you recommend on the left side carabiner? Is it a double figure 8 loop?
The only knot I use is a stopper knot. the other side is a spliced eye.
Go on knot and rope and order a bull rope with sliced eye. Just allow extra footage for splice
Nice video. I would recommend an auto double locking carabiner instead of the ones you are using. This is coming from a former arborists and current lineman.
I'm new to this and would like to be as safe as I can be going up a tree. What knot do you recommend to use on both carabiners? Thank you for your help.
@@jasonkolody5429 double fisherman’s knot or sometimes called a scaffold knot. There are others but this one is the best
Would this setup not be needed for a tree climber like the Summit Viper?
how long of a blue water rope do you need? they come pretty long to buy
Nice video. I think I’ll be ordering a mechanical prusik. How long is the rope with your mechanical prusik?
8' total from Tethrdnation.com but you could probably get away with a shorter rope if you don't hunt big trees.
What saddle do you have on???
Greg are u ex military. Me too bud. Love the vids. Just started saddle hunting this year and Love It
Just got out of active duty in November.
Do you happen to know what size rope the hunter safety lifeline is made out of? I want to make this lineman’s belt out of the lifeline using the ascender which accepts 10-13mm rope.
I don't. But the HSS rope should work. I have some of that rope and I use it.
When you use a prusic know you can put you line back through the top of the carabiner and then you can use one hand
Given the saddle isn't rated for above ground or decent, any concern with attaching your lineman belt to the saddle as opposed to your rock climbing harness?
Squirrel Boy A lot of the guys in videos recommend leaving the rock climbing harness attached to the safety line but just with a bit of slack so that if the main rope breaks you still have the lineman belt as a backup but you still have mobility. I like that idea! Sort of a belt and suspenders type of thinking! :)
Do you have your lineman’s rope attached to sit drag? I have a rch and sit drag but have used lineman’s on rch and don’t like it. Thinking about using it with sit drag. Yay or nay.
I use the LB on my sitdrag. RCH is only for hunting height.
@@G2Outdoors ok, you just lost me. You use the lineman's rope on your saddle during the climb, then hook the saddle's bridge to your tether, right? Now are you saying to move the lineman's rope to your rock climbing harness as a redundant/backup safety attachment?
I'm in the market for getting a platform made. I have an xop stand that I'm willing to take the seat off
+Davey Newman join Saddlehunter.com and look for the Ernie platform kit.
Can someone share a link to the amsteel line that I would need to make this lineman belt? I would just like to go with the added security of the amsteel line.
Cycle4Life12 Greg and others have said that the amsteel is NOT a good option for the lineman belt due to the lack of abrasion resistance. They recommend climbing rope for this.
Where did you buy the rope from??
Is it truly safe to climb with a linemans belt? I mean a tether constricts the tree when you fall but a linemans belt is used and you slip if both feet go one direction off the trunk you are most likely to hit the ground. Arent you supposed to be with a twther at all.times? Im a bit confused
Tether would be the best option, but it's impractical most of the time. The Lineman belt is not 100% fail safe, but it's better than nothing. Good point!
Very interested in making my own lineman belt but how long of a rope do I need?
Start with about 10'-12' that should be enough after all your knots.
Is there any place I can by the lineman's rope with the Ascender all together?
Chad Klaren - Thanks Chad! I didn’t even realize online shopping was a thing until now.
Where do you get the mechanical belt?
Got to like real people doing these demos
where can I buy whole deal?
The carabiner he used isn't on Amazon anymore. Any recommendations?
Hero Clip or Qlipter
G2 Outdoors what knots do you use on your belt? I know splicing is better but I just bought a bunch of the blue water.
So, not yet saddle hunting, but almost there; anyone used the Rock Exotica RopeGrab as a mechanical Prusik instead of the Ropeman 1, or Kong Duck? I’d rather buy Made in USA.
"for many years" says the kid just out of puberty.
LMAO.
Think I can purchase one from you?
tethrdnation.com
We're is the link for the blue water 11 mm rope
www.summithut.com/7-16-inch-assault-static-line-1.html
What kind of belt does that attach to?
Climbing rope. The term "belt" is a bit misleading.
The rope that connects to the tether once you disconnect the lineman belt. What kind of rope should that be?
That's 1/4" Amsteel blue. It has a breaking strength of 7.700 lbs. It's spliced as opposed to knotted.
most belts i see sold for hunters only
have one of those clips.... so now what?
how long should the linesmans rope be? 8 ft? 10 ft?
8 is plenty
@@G2Outdoors thanks. I ordered 10 because I was unsure.
@@pickledcottoncandy 10 will work. And if its too long just cut it...
good luck finding one
Trekkinn has them, but takes a while from Netherlands
@@Avidarcher88 I'll try thank you! I head the ropeman 1 was discontinued
@@TheThorgoesinya I heard sold out till 2020. I think rei said within 30 days. Good luck
Tethrd has them.
@@G2Outdoors says out of stock!
hey man, lower the volume of your intro, it blares and then when your video starts i have to raise the volume again, prettying annoying, just a tip
I took a cam strap from my lone wolf sticks and added a carabiner to each side and it’s literally the same thing as an ascender for 1/10 of the price. Any cam strap will work just the same. Pull the tag end to tighten, press the cam button to loosen. One hand. Simple. Cheap. Safe and convenient. We trust them to strap down our atv’s and heavy objects on trailers. Save yourself some money people. It’s the same thing for a lot less money. I bet all you hunters have them in your garage right now. Cut the J hooks off with a cut off wheel, add carabiners and you’re done. You’re welcome
Can you pm me picture of what you have made?
Not a lineman belt it's a flip line lol the belt goes around your ass
I'll give you a free pass on the term "tree saddle", but "mechanical prussic"...come on man! lol
Shawn Chadwick what's wrong with mechanical prussic? I think it makes sense and describes how we use it very accurately. Ascender is a climbing term which is more than likely unfamiliar to most hunters.
mechanical prussics are a different class of device. mechanical prussics operate just like a prussic loop. A ropeman isn't a mechanical prussic.
Solid video though. You are on pace to take the "TH-cam Saddle Guy" crown from Bobby.
+Shawn Chadwick Tomato - Tomahto. It's a mechanical device that I use to replace my prussic knot. Good enough for me lol.
G2 Outdoors No doubt. But if you type "mechanical prussic" into the Google machine you will get nearly zero hits for ropeman until...we are generating activity. lol.
Something like a Zigzag et.al. is a mechanical prussic.
Tree saddle on the other hand is a household name these days. It's like Kleenex. Hence the free pass. You need to make mechanical prussic a household name. lol