Huben K1 version 2 review - part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2017
- This is the second part of the full review of the second version of K1.
part 1: describes the improvements they made
part 2: will describe the settings, accuracy and pellet selection
part 3: will be full disassembly and re-assembly - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Holy hell, fantastic video. You know your stuff and I think I just found my next rifle. Thanks for sharing and keep these coming. The only thing missing is a paper target that will show the viewers exactly what size groups you are getting with various pellets.
What a true and knowledgeable enthusiast! An absolute pleasure to watch your videos Gregor. Really appreciate the amount of work you clearly put into them, thank you.
Got in as number one, for the first time, What a great report. Thanks Gregor.
A beautiful and amazing weapon. Only my 1st time watching but a great presentation Gregor, concise and educational.
Need to see part 3, eagerly awaiting this video, will be visual gold 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Gregor thanks a lot for an amazing video once again.. Keep up the excellent work...
Two humble suggestions.. At few occasions you have used black color font.. I suggest some contrasting color... Yellow, orange etc... 2ndly the results at the end (metric results etc) are not readable.. It might be useful for someone at pro level... I am really a fan of your honest work, so I assume that these two humble suggestions will add a little perfection to your already perfect work..
Great content as always Gregor.
Thank you!
Very good demonstration of the gun and the pellets. Nice shooting too! :)
Thank you for your time and hard work. Great video 👍 Lots of great info.
Gregor,
Great job!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Great job nice effort I will get my huben this week
Thanks for your time, you did good!
Wow! Great Video again! Thanks for showing! Best regards from a colleague from Germany! Keep up the good work!
Andi
Thanx!
Great review keep up the good work.
That is one amazing air rifle. Spectacular accuracy at 100 yards, especially for a bullpup design. Rivals anything I have seen, even top of the line FX. Gotta love German engineering.
You mean Chinese engineering? Huben is a Chinese designed and manufactured gun. The barrel is German though...
Color me shocked😯. Hard to believe the Chinese could put together something that well. Seems that the German made barrel makes all the difference then.
I would say that Huben has done his homework and also selected an appropriate barrel that has proven accuracy.
good video gregor.i really want a huben and when finances allow i will buy one.
Amazing, thank you very much
thanks for the vedio .... i have been waiting for part 2 .... thanks ...
how many good shots do you get if you set the gun to full power using either huben pellets or the new jsb beast .... ?
Thank you my friend so much for these videos subscribing !!!
Hello gregor ... what a good review. Good to see that the Huben are definitely a verry good rifle, but with the right bullet. My huben is still leaking, but despite that, I still think it's a good airgun. I hope with the time that an exploded view is available, so I can carefully replace some of the rings. I have already replaced 2 very small rings that were worn, but I think my leakage is in another place. Maybe I have to experiment with balloons to see where the leak is ... I look forward to the next video with full expectation. Greetings from Holland, ... Peter.
Now retailers can fix Leaking-Problem by the support from huben.
Mr. Kamensek; I never tire of watching your videos. I find them informative and easy to follow, even though I am a neophyte at air-gunning. Do you sell your Huben slugs to the public? Thank you for all your hard and exact work. Best to you.
Hi. No, I am not selling them. I designed a mold that MP molds is selling so you can cast them yourself. There are also other options of slugs available on the market you can purchase...
Muito bom o vídeo carabina muito boa parabéns 👍
Great videos Gregor. Keep up the good work. I got so excited by you that I actually bought a Huben K1 version 2 recently. However.... my first shot was with the regulator set at 150bar pressure and I dont know how the velocity/powerwheel was set: the very first shot I took was with a Huben bullet and it got stuck inside the barrel. :( I am guessing the powerwheel was set too low. Had to go back to the weapon shop to change the gun. Shop told me v2 barrel is choked and thats why the bullet got stuck. So my question for you is: at how much bar pressure is your regulator set in this video for long range shots with Huben bullets? I would like to shoot Huben bullets again for long range accuracy but of course not if they get stuck again. Or do you think I got Huben bullets that are unfit for version 2 barrel? In that case people should be warned not to shoot Huben bullets with low power/velocity. All the best, R
You can shoot huben bullets in version 1 and version 2 barrel any they are very accurate, they are bullets and they require more power than pellets. Set your pressure to about 170-180 bars and open the power wheel about 2,5 revolutions from minimum (20 clicks)...
hi gregor want to use 18 grains only and reduce reg to 120...please advise
Gregor, I'm ordering my Huben soon. I have just one concern about shot count. I only have the ability to fill my Huben to about 4200psi max. I want use the Huben's power, but would like at least two full mags between fills. If used JSB Monsters Redesigned at 950fps, would I still get two mags with that lower fill, in your opinion?
If you set the gun correctly, you will get more than two magazines at your desired energy with 4200 bar fill. I recommend using 150 bar on the regulator and adjusting the power wheel to get your desired velocity. I also recommend pushing the pellets as far forward in the magazine as possible to get best accuracy.
Gregor Kamenšek Thanks Gregor! Your the best.
Super kao i obično
awsome!
Very nice but what is price uk market
Can the K1 use a silencer?
What diameter for your slugs and Huben slugs?
Hey Gregor, I've had a problem filling my K-1 where air won't fill the gun. The same pump used to work fine and still works fine on my other air guns. I think it may be a problem with the probe's o rings. Was wondering if you knew what sized o rings the probe uses so I can try to buy some and fix the problem. Thanks, your reviews are great.
Hi. the o-rings are 4 x1,5mm (inner diameter x ring thickness). For hand pump I recommend NBR70 material as it seals at lower pressures, but for scuba tank I prefer NBR90 as they are harder and last longer...
Thanks a million.
How much price huben k1 end how many shot geving buy k1 pr fill
Great review ! May I know which scope is that ?
I used 2 different scopes, Nikko Stirling Diamond Long Range 6-24x50 and Vector Tac Vector Taurus 5-30x56. Both excellent scopes for the money.
Dựng ngược lên nó có bị rơi đạn ra không ạ
Hi Gregor,
How many shots do you get per fill , shooting MP-Mold bullets? I have V2 and I'm only get about 10 shots from 4500 psi. My gun regulator set @ 17mpa. My MP- Mold bullet is 35.49gr, shoot with an average speed of 984 fps. I also noticed that the tip of my gun (silencer) get very cold with water residue on the gun. Is this mean I use to much air....pleas advise. Thank you.
You should get at least one whole magazine, probably more with that setting. Try turning the power wheel down in order to get better efficiency till the velocity starts to drop. then turn it up just enough that the power is still at your 984 FPS. It that does not help, then increase your pressure to about 190 bar and repeat the procedure with power wheel....
Gregor Kamenšek
Thank you....I followed your instructions and increased my pressure to 190bar and turn my power wheel down 15 cricks. I was able to shoot one full magazine from 4500 psi to 3300 psi. My gun also shoot a lot quieter with my high 988 fps, low 979 fps, and an average 984.2 fps. Your MP-bullets very accurate, I shots a golf ball size at 50-60 yards and soda can at 100 to 150 yards. Thank you.
I am very happy that you got good results :)
Hi! Better performance and accuracy with Huben or HP mould? Thanks once again!
Huben is slightly better because they are swagged...
Dude love your videos man I love that gun Huben max2 what do you think about the open gun and the air Force Texas gun like to like I like to know what's your take on that?
All I know are specs, I never tried one so I might not be the right person to answer this. I can say tha it bothers me that it is not regulated...
Great video Greg, where do you buy the redesigned monsters? Can't find any in the uk???
I got the first thin directly form JSB as samples, afterwards I bought/buy them here: www.rojal.si/en/shop/airguns/airguns-ammunition/jsb-exact-jumbo-monster-redesigned.html
Gregor Kamenšek just purchased x10 :-)
how much isit
Good..
You should try Nielsen specialty ammo swage slugs from California I bet you they would perform well in that k1
There was already a discussion about them but form what I have heard (i have not test them...), they do not work well in K1.
Hello Gregor,
Great video please keep up the fine job.
I have one question....what is the difference between the Version 1 & 2 of the Huben?
Thanks, Robert
Take a look at my video Huben K1 version 2 review - part 1: th-cam.com/video/jDek86GoLII/w-d-xo.html
I explain the differences there...
Thank you Gregor, that was a big help. I have been waiting for my Huben K-1 to be repaired, it's been 1-year and 3-months and I am STILL WAITING. I had the gun only one week (shoot 30 pellets) and it would not hold air, been waiting ever since..........it sucks.................I placed my order on July 15, 2015. YES I have been waiting over TWO YEARS and still no gun.!!!!!!!
Wow, that is just tragic!
the Lothar Walther Barrel
Hi Gregor. Do you try to shoot a new JSB slugs nemed Knock out? Do you like them? I try to shoot them with my Huben K2 byt every resoults from 250 till 320 m/s are very bad. What do you think about it? Thanx for your time.
No I didn't simply because I was quite confident they would not work well in K1. K1 because of the magazine design and the fact is shoots out of the magazine requires bigger dimension slugs than typical slug like Knock out are...
Можно с этим охотится на кабана? С полнотелыми пульками. Или лучше .22 wmr что лучше, тише, можно ли использовать huben с саунд модератором?
There are moderator adapters for K1. Regarding hunting, you should check what are the required energies and laws... .22WMR is definitely more powerful. You could compare K1 with .22LR not with .22WMR.
Hi Gregor, regards from Croatia. Can you tell me where to buy those huben pellets 0.25? Thanks
Hi, oz. zdravo! :) Those slugs are not for sale, I only designed the mold that you can buy: www.mp-molds.com/product/635-mm-air-rifle-pellet-8-cav-mold/
hi Gregor i have a query regarding reducing the working pressure of regulator Huben k1.can it be done under pressure of 300 or i need to de gas it before doing so plz
Yes, unlike FX guns, you can lower your regulator pressure on K1 while the main cylinder is filled to 300 (or more). You will need to take a few shoots (I suggest dry shots without pellets...) to see at what pressure you are at after the change... If you increase the pressure, you will see the change on the gauge immediately.
May I know the maximum pressure of the regulator output ? Can it be set to allow the air to go straight through without any regulation ? if this can be done, what will happen to the accuracy of slugs ?
Yes, you can but I do not recommend it for the following reasons: You will not get much more power because the gun is designed to close the valve faster if the pressure is higher and limit the power; you will put additional stress to internal parts and the trigger will be heavier; you do not need higher power as the size of the slugs is limited and the power is just right for the maximum weight that is possible to fit in the magazine for the gun to be accurate. I recommend to keep the pressure under 190 bars.
Gregor
Congrats on the video!
My huben k1 V2 has a very poor performance, clusters of 10cm to POI or worse!
Is it because my huben still do not have 500 shots?
I'm using JSB Beast.
Tks
Did your K1 ever settle in Luciano?
@@JustinEthnostate No, I ended up selling it.
I gave up, opened it several times and couldn't solve it.
The best grouping you could get was with JSB Jumbo Redesigned. Still, it was still pretty bad. The cluster with this lead was 1 inch at 30 meters.
I will not buy huben k1 anymore. I currently have a Kalibr Cricket and I intend to buy an FX Impact to test.
Krasny video, bracho. Neměřil jsi, jaky twist ma hlaveň u K1 mod 2?
416mm
@@gregorkamensek3923 Děkuji
Peppermint listening 100% affective for repelling Mosquitos my friend poor it in a spray bottle spray your table down and your close!
what is the weight of huben pellets?
33 grain
Also, what kind of shot count are you getting per fill?
It is as Huben states it in their web page...
Hi Gregor! Where in the US can I buy Huben .25 bullets?
I don't know. As far as I know, there are not Huben .25 bullets available for purchase... But you should have a wide variety of slugs available in US and you might one that fits are works in K1...
Sorry I meant versión #2
Will your molded bullets work it a regular pcp in 22.
The version from this video, probably not, but I will have options for other PCPs soon...
Dear Gregor. I would like to ask a question. If the rifle ( version 2,) is stopped for 1 or 2 months, it is advisable to remove the air completely or with low pressure ..?
Regards fron Argentina. Jorge
No, you can leave it charged. That goes for all PCPs.
Dear Gregor. Thanks for your reply. I can then save the Huben with 200 Bars.?
Of course...
Gregor Kamenšek OK. Thanks
Gregor in K1 version 1. Were your MP mold bullets .223? Is your version 1 a d KW barrel? That would have a copper bronze color.
Not sure I understand those questions...
What diameter were the bullets you shot in your K1 version 1?
Does your version 1 K1 have a Lothar Walther barrel. Would be a copper bronze color?
Sorry I didn't proof read the original before I sent it. I understand why you didn't understand it.
@@kevintravis2154 Hi. My K1 version 1 is currently a pistol :). For K1 version 1, I would recommend slugs sized between 5,62 - 5,66 mm, because 5,66 is the size of the magazine. It is good to use "low friction" slugs, meaning that they are with rings... Regarding the barrel, I used many different barrels, .22 LR was probably the best option. It was LW. My K1 version had originally non blued barrel (just raw stell). The copper bronze you mentioned is probably the barrels that Huben has tried to blue but LW barrels have different surface material and if the OD is not machined before blued (and that is what Huben does), the colour you get is not black but rather this "copper bronze". I got this kind of barrel in my K1 version 2 and also in first version of K1 .25 cal (both had LW barrels).
Gregor, what in particular makes this gun so powerful?
There are a lot of thing but if I summarize, it is its "pressure efficiency", meaning it can get a lot of power while not requiring very high pressure (power to pressure ratio is higher than on most other guns). This is because of the valve system, "travel ports" where the air needs to travel before it enters the barrel are very short and wide thus having very low resistance. Also, the valve opening and closing time is very fast and the "open" time can be adjusted by power wheel.
I bought your mold, just wondering what regular pressure and power setting do you recommend for the most power and accuracy? Thank you. What FPS will I be looking @?
You can set the pressure to somewhere around 170 - 180 bars. On my K1, I have to set the power dial to abou 2.5 revolutions form minimum position but this might vary from gun to gun. You should get abot 295 - 300 m/s (970 - 985 fps). This should give you best accuracy and efficiency and also enough power for long range...
Have you tried hornady bullets by any chance?
@@TheArtofBoxing101 No. They are not easy to get in Europe and I do not intend to order them from USA because I do not believe they will preform well. They are copper plated and too big for K1 (or any airgun) barrel. They will have way too much friction even if I size them... Also there is a problem that they would not fit at all in V2 magazine and for the V1, only the 35 grain version would fit if sized...
Just wondering since you've already tested Huben's 33 grain bullets, at 170 bar on max power do they achieve atleast 80 fpe of energy? 1040 fps?
@@TheArtofBoxing101 Yes, that is correct. You can reach even more because K1 is very efficient, but the pressure used are still not close to firearms and the friction is a problem. also the size of the Hornaday bullets. Usually they are .224 or .223. .223 would work only if the font of the bullet is not bigger than .2185 (check my latest slug design). Also don't forget that the barrel is also choked. There is just no way for this to have any positive results, believe me, I have done my research. Going form pellets to slugs is a big step that most airguns cannot take, going from pellets to copper placed firearm bullets with initial too big size is too much even for Huben.
Hej gregor. Is 160bar regulator pressure ok for 33grain slugs?
Yes, It should be ok if the pressure gauge is actually accurate... But you should test it yourself to get best results... I tend to use about 170 bars.
Hi Gregor, I have a new version 2. I have the following, I set it to 160bar. Then you do about 5 shots low pressure to 140bar and I have to wait about 3 minutes or 4 until I return to 160, this is resolved after about 500 shots as you say in the video? Or do I have a problem? regards
It should settle in a few hundred shots... If it does not, then you have a problem... I will address this in my next video as well...
ok, thank you. I anxious for your next video. Regards,
I was thinking that if there is a problem in my k1 is surely in the regulator, could show how to disarm it and repair it in the next video? best regards
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..so, closing down the power wheel has the added effect of increasing the Norbert of shots available.- no reason you should dump the excess air. You’d only be increasing the harmonic distortion of the barrel….😮
jp. But the line is not that straight. The power starts to taper off slowly with longer valve dwell time and some people just want max power... :)
Where i can buy this hugen and the pellets..i am from indonesian.and how much that price..thank bro..
Contact Huben regarding closest seller.
Pellets: airgunheaven.com/en/huben-22-solidpellet
gregor i just measured the H&N pile drivers.there 9.45 mm.long.they will fit the hubben. could you try them in part three ??
I have tested them. They fit in K1 .22. But the accuracy was terrible in my tests. Actually, the accuracy of Piledrivers was terrible in any gun I tested so far. I know some people got different results but I do not know how or why.
@@gregorkamensek3923 thank you Gregor.I'm good for one of your molds when i finally get this 1974 chevy blazer finished and can afford a huben h2.
hey Gregor. are you going to review the version three?
Not sure what exactly is the configuration of v3. Huben is constantly sending me improved parts for test so I might already have v3 by now :)
Gregor Kamenšek i don't know either. So i tought as you review it we will see the differences between al versions. And strong and weak points of them.
The differences in versions are very minor. If the will officially have version 3 and I get a chance to test it, then I will make a video about it.
Hi Gregor , i want to buy a sizer for my k1 version 2 and don't know which diameter i will buy , can you tell me please ?
that depends... The rear part of the magazine is 5,66 mm but the front (lands) are 5,55... depend on what kind of slugs you want to size. My V2 mold (5,52 or 5,55) you can size by 5,66 (it will touch only the rear band) but different slug design, you might need to size to 5,55.
@@gregorkamensek3923 thanks
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Gregor! Any idea how JSB Knockouts 0.22 cal perform in Huben K1 version 2?
I haven't tested it yet unfortunately. I have so many things to test and no option to do it at the moment :( But I will as soon as I am able to. My first guess would be "no" but I was surprised before so it is hard to say.
@@gregorkamensek3923 ok great! I was also surprised how well they shot in my other LW barrel which is why I was hoping they'd do well in K1 as well
Hi. JSB Knockout 0.22 have only 5,50mm and it is not good for HUBEN. You need 5,52 od 5,54mm. The pellets are moved in the hopper and cut the heads ...
@@WorXeroN Thanks for your input, that is actually what I expected.
Gregor - Would you kindly post the brand of the scope used here? Sorry, i tried like 10 times, but can not understand. Thank You...
I had two different scopes: version 1 had Tac Vector Taurus 5-30x56. This is an excellent FFP scope and I highly recommend it. Version 2 had nikko stirling long range 6-24x50. Also and excellent but SFP scope.
Thank You very much. I've been using a Hawke Sidewinder Pro 3-12x50IR, which has pretty good glass, and an ATN X-Sight II HD 5-20X for night. But my dusk and dawn and long shots thinking of one like your Nikko, and would like your opinion. thanks again. great vid
If it is in you budget, I would recommend Tac Vector Taurus 5-30x56 rather than Nikko. Nikko is good as well, but Vector is FFP and has better glass (better than Hawke Sidewinder if you ask me) and has everything in Mil (mil reticle and mil turrets). I am not sure if you are using metric or imperial units but either way, it is nice to have both reticle and turrets in the sam unit along with FFP. My favorite scope so far. Also one of the highest value...
Gregor, love the sound of your shots. Music to a conductor. Thanks again for your insight. Under the weather here (stomach flu). I found one that shows two style reticles, one looks like a standard and the other is Mil dot style. I like the Mil Style. the Model is SCFF-14. And I would like to hang it on a K-1. Can you give me an email contact? I am dcdon970@gmail.com.
Got it. Thanks.
Found the scope you prefer, and I agree, nice. Will order when I get an order in for a K-1 (maybe, before). I love your slugs (bullets); nice job.
Which model is the latest Huben gun now ?bullpup model.
The model is the same, but the have newer version (version 5 is the latest I believe).
Where can I buy one of these rifles?
Contact one of the distributors...: www.hubenairguns.com/contact.html
We are taking order for the Huben K1 .22 caliber and the .25 caliber and the 5000 psi hand pump. As of 4-17-2018, There is a minimum of 3 to 5 month waiting period before it will be shipped, they are trying to increase production to get the wait time lower, to the customers... You can place your order www.airguns4patriots.com
The .22 caliber is $1499.99, the .25 caliber is $1,529.00 and the hand pump is $229.00 and shipping cost is not included in any of the prices, sorry!
Hi, i cant seem to find anyone selling the Huben pellets. can you point me in some direction please?
Yes, they are not available and I have no information as to when they will be. That is why I work on alternatives... :)
Does this pup come with a case?
No
Only 1 question. .. how to clean the barrel of that rifle ??????
I have a video on that...: th-cam.com/video/hymZgeJmXkM/w-d-xo.html
Cleaning Pellets. do a very good job and do not scratch the bore!
Hi ... do you know the barrel twist rate and direction?
right twist, 416 mm
Thank you very much. Really like your videos and waiting eagerly for a new one.
Hello, where is Huben manufactured? Thanks
Hong Kong
Hello Gregor,I'm Fred from china,we had video-chat on skype~Great video!!!!
Thank you!
great
but could you show us accuracy to 50-60_70m?
I have a tendency to make too long videos. If I added 50, 60, 70 meters, it would be even longer :)
I can tell you that at 50 m, you can expect form about 1 MoA to 2 MoA accuracy (1,5 - 3 cm at 50 meters) with those pellets
Gregor, please make a new video with accuracy tests. 1 MOA is great, but 2 MOA is not. Would love to see 100m groups.
yes i agree accuracy test will achieve this great video..without it s useless because we can t know if at this price range you can have a good accuracy like fx or other big name brand
what scope are you using .
I use different "budget" scopes, on K1 I usually use TacVector Taurus. I have all three versions (3-18x50, 4-24x50 and 5-30x56). They are all FFP.
Please do the priest vs fx impact. Or do unboxing the priest thank you😀😀
The new review of the Priest is coming soon...
Where and how can I buy a huben k1 V20??
I do not know about V20, but you can buy V2 at Huben distributors (it they have them in stock)... :)
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i really like the machine Sir,at how much can it cost me?
You should find a dealer for your country and ask them: www.hubenairguns.com/Retailers
Is this the best gun or cricket?
It is the gun I shoot the most, other that that is it depends what you are looking for. I would say it like this: Cricket is an excelent pellet gun, Huben can be a pellet gun or a slug gun and it is semi auto,.....
ابوسعد. المملكة العربية السعودية
على قوتها ذي يابو سعد وسرعة الطلقه تتفوق على الكريكت بمراحل كثير نصف اتوماتيكيه وقوتها اكبر بالجول
افكر ابيع الكريكت هههههه
I have both, Cricket and Huben and I love them both :)
T00Ty1 العلم كيف دقتها لايكون تلاطخ 😂
My opinion this gun is far better than cricket.since you can fire pellets and slugs at high energy than cricket.i like this gun .i had cricket before is also is accurate but is not powerful as this gun.
wow. your pellets at the muzzle was 303 m/s and at 50m 293m/s ? amazing power transfer!! do you have big enough "balls" to do this at 100meters????? I ges you are crazy enough. lol
How much does this gun cost you
Depends where you are from. Try to look up for a distributor in your country...
What is that other gun
You mean the one with the wood stock? Kalibrgun Cricket in .25 cal.
Gregor Kamenšek Yes. Thanks for your quick reply. I watched you videos on Huben and Kral. Fantastic, Awesome & very informative.
Where is the Huben manufactured?
China
Well, that sucks, I was really liking this gun, but with the new tariffs on China from the US, it just got harder. Might explain why there are no dealers listed in the US...😕
What would be your next recommendation comparable to the huben? Not from China...
There is no gun that can compare to Huben. But if you are just looking for a semi auto airgun, you now have plenty of options (FX, Hatsan, Evanix,...)
You can try and contact: www.airguns4patriots.com/
Iam in USA, YOU KNOW ANY DISTRIBUTORS?
www.hubenairguns.com/contact.html
I see that USA is not on the list anymore... Maybe you can ask Huben this question...
Вер аю фром, dude? Awesome accent)
Slovenia ;)
Прям славянской речью отдаёт его английский
I heard you say your slugs were sized .223
Yes, but only the rear ring... front ones are either 5,52mm or 5,55mm...
nielsenspecialtyammo.com/collections/22-caliber
Here here is the link
$
Bn usd
7,5j? Shot...................... target:-)
100j. The target is 100 meters away!
Can you sell me a gun about Vietnam?
So the bullet you sell are the best for the gun lol sure
I only designed the mold for k1. I do not sell bullets.