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- The new MotoGP technical standards are set to take effect in three years. There will be a number of new regulations that have a significant impact on how well the motorcycles’ function. There are currently a number of controversial features that cause people to disagree, like the proliferation of aerodynamic advances (some of which are quite strange) and the sheer number of electronic devices on bikes, such as riding height and holeshot devices.
The current technical championship regulations were put in place in 2022 and will run out in 2026.
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We don't want 850cc.
I'll second that !
Forget 850,the old 800 was a drag,go to 1200cc- make motogp exciting again,not boring slower junk!
If this make MotoGP more exciting and with more competition between riders I am ok
it will produce the same times lmao. and it will elimintate the tyre overheating by a great extent. no dirty air from shit aero and etc lol. thus producing better and closer racing. nobody is here for laptimes.i know i don't.
@@loggie8763 we don't care about the laptimes that's for sure.
We've had them reduce engine size before. What happened, they got just as fast and eventually went back to 1000cc. Get away from electronics and aero !!!!
I think the aerodynamics is fine 🤔 ?!? It's the traction control, quick shift, and slipper clutch that needs to be done ✔️ with. Speed could be reduced just a little. But reducing the engine to an 850cc in 2027 is a very terrible idea 💡 😑, we all can agree on that despite our differences ...?
The 800s were not, in fact, as fast. The 1000s get to over 350kph, 800s never did that.
@stevenspilly Yes, but the 1000cc has more presence & depth. Look at a small bike 🏍 then look at a larger bike 🏍. The larger bike 🏍 is way more appealing & more exciting to watch ⌚️ 😀 .....!
@@wIndstar47 I agree
@@wIndstar47 I race a ninja 400 and the only thing that u said we should get rid of that is actually almost necessary is the slipper clutch. The bike would chatter so hard from downshifts but I can agree with traction control.
Bring back the 500 two strokes, now that was racing.
Moto3 is now almost as fast as 500cc. And there is real racing wheel to wheel pack racing due to slip stream. And they have safety concerns and'd like to mittigate that.
@@krzysztofkowol5392 Safety concerns, that's is because motogp has become pussified. Go watch this Peter Hickman's Epic Qualifying Lap at Macau Grand Prix 2023 Non pussified racing.
@@ReCheck_WotTheFluck Pussified??? At that speed? LOOOL Have you ever drive a motorbike on a track? AHahHahahahhahahahahahahahaha Motogp pussified racing it's ilarious ahahah
Everyone hated the 800cc era, and it was more dangerous because the bikes were peaky. Sounds like a bad call.
It’s a horrible call.
The reason for it is to increase the cost of performance.
This will ruin the satellite teams. And thus allow the Japanese back up front.
i liked it :D go stoner rossi and lorenzo
aero and too much reliance on electronics is killing the sport... this is why i switched to watching WSBK since the bikes are more relatable with the road versions... also who wants to see more than 2 teams using the same bike?
You watch racing for the relatability. I watch racing for the racing.
Moto GP (like F1) are prototypes for tech that will eventually come to WSBK and street bikes.
This isn’t about safety, it’s about ending Ducatis dominance and leveling the playing field. Get rid of the aero and rider aids too.
GP is prototypical racing. It’s about innovation. Hard concept to grasp for some
Ktm and aprilia are moving in the right direction, yamaha and honda are out of ideas.
They would be unrideable without the aero and electronic assists
It's not about ending Ducati's dominance if I remember correctly 800cc was stoners winning years
It's a cost cut and to be honest if it brings back other manufacturers I'm all for it.
But the electrics need scaling back otherwise the black art of throttle control will be obsolete on those 850cc bikes
Didn’t do that when Honda won everything,or Yamaha….
@@RRFriction again it’s prototype racing. Their technology trickles down to street bikes eventually. Why is this hard to understand for people like you.
Who cares BSB is where it’s at!! WSBK and motogp are not even fun to watch too much corporate greed
Agreeeeed
Yeh BSB is a really good championship very close racing👍
damn they really put the "F1 Regs" on MotoGP...........
What was wrong with the 500cc 2 strokes? The era of legends.
imo Honda couldn't make a good road going one. And then you have the Agenda, they look dirty with all that smoke. My best bike is a RGV250P shouldn't of sold it. The RG500 was nice but didn't handle. My RDLC's 125 to 350/YPVS were the most fun. Now I've just bought a CBR600 08(priced out of 2S market), it's a screamer but RGV was better/lighter.
potential Manufacturers for 850cc class:
1. Ducati
2. Aprilia
3. Honda
4. Yamaha
5. KTM
6. BMW
7. Suzuki
8. Kawasaki
9. Triumph
10. MV Augusta
11. CF Moto
This is so strange. All the constructors in MotoGP are so reasonable and seem to care about the sport. F1 constructors are only about maximizing profit and don’t care about the sport.
It's the dangerous 800cc Era all over again
For years the best class has consistently been Moto3, and this year I would argue that Moto2 is producing the best racing so far this year. Power never translates to better races in motorcycle racing. I want MotoGP to remain a racing spectacle, rather than a purely technical spectacle, whilst keeping the safety of the riders a priority.
Anyone who doesn't want 850cc should just cancel your MotoGP subscription. That will get their attention.
Motogp is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorcycle racing. And at the top level i think innovation with aero and ride height devices and electronics absolulely have a place, this is ridiculous in my opinion. An 850cc bike does not scream pinnacle of motorcycles to me
Thank the Gods for you. Absolutely agree in everyway.
Aero this year is outrageous. Front winglets okay the rest of it needs to go. Hole shot gadgets & auto adjusting corner suspension is also rediculous. We need great riders like Toprak not gimmicks. Currently no manufacturer makes an 850cc sport bike & they shouldn't. The 1000cc sport bikes with adjustable trackion control make it easy for riders to get started on a bigger bike & unleash its greatness when they build confidence in their riding. 600s are nearly gone. No one buys them anymore.
1000cc should stay, gadgets & gimmicks go away. Long live the talented rider!
Good luck riding a 200+HP beast with no assistance.
@@elcookiemonsteru they do it in WSBK every race.
@@usarespnsblty or the isle of man TT or any other road race lol
All that'll happen if they drop the limit to 850 is, they'll rev the engines even higher to claw back the power and without a bag full of electronics they're totally unrideable . It's bad enough as it is, buttons for launch control, ride height devices, anti wheelie, pit lane limiters, gyro's and speed sensors ,traction control.....the focus is being taken off the rider and more on the electronics , he can more or less just whack the throttle wide open and the electronics sort everything out, same with a race start, press button for ride height, another for launch control, nail the throttle, lights go green, let clutch out, electronics takes care of everything.
1000cc and ditch all the silly electronics , lets see who can really ride!
It's high time they deleted all that electronic shit and then we might see who the best riders are for real .
Couldn't agree more
I have a hard time thinking MotoGP would bend over backward for BMW. In F1 they pulled out, so would do the same thing in MotoGP if they wanted.
Why specifically BMW, they already have a 1000 cc engine
@@Liam-vh8bz production engine, means nothing for GP
Where are you getting your information from ? I have searched everywhere on the Dorna website and don't see any factual evidence or proof of this stuff you are talking about. Are you just speculating on possible proposals ?
That's why quatararo signed and rightly so 12m a year chi Ching
What's the point?
Manufacturers have enough to worry about.
Racing is meant to be fast.
Racing is meant to be racing too and these current bikes produce shit racing
the 800ccs were faster
We have had 800cc moto gp bikes before. Ended up with alot higher corner speeds.
Think the 850cc is a huge step backward. If they would look at what caused racing to start sucking, then cut out those changes. Lose areo, ride height devices, holes shot devices, wheelie control, traction control. If your bike is too stupid fast to keep it in a straight line or to hold the front wheel on the ground. Then let the manufacturer start backing the power down. We need to get back to rider skills not bike skills. Almost any idiot can go fast on these bikes. Learn all the buttons and when and where to push what and you're good to go the bike will do the rest. When you have a rider come into a corner then as soon as he hits the apex hold it wide open and let the electronics take care of the rest. We could train monkeys to do the riding. Then we'd have the full circus.
You saved me having to hunt and peck with one finger . . . Well said! 👍👍👍👍😘
I'm curious, when F1 imposed all their restrictions, did the racing get better, cheaper and grow their viewership? Personally I stopped watching F1 when the V10's went away.
Me too.But there is people who will watch anyway
How about no rules whatsoever. Just 2 wheels......no rules on engine size. Turbos, nitrous.
All we need is less aero, no one wants to see bikes slower than WSBK
like you can see the difference on the tellie between the speed of a 850 or a 1000
Wsbk is still incredibly fast and on some circuits faster.if you remove aero and drop to 850 where will that leave wsbk? Which is far better racing than the new era MotoGP….the technology has to stay!!!! It’s where engineers show what’s possible.
@@andyfry745go for 850cc 2t with aero and modern ecu
Now that would work
Downsizing from 990cc to 800cc didn't make them any slower last time. Downsizing to 850cc and reducing aero is a reasonable trade-off.
@@martinlewis967 that’s a fabulous idea..I’m 56 and still ride strokers 👏👏👏
I just want bikes that challenge the rider in every area of the track. Don’t want riders coasting, waiting for the bike to respond. It is true that most fans won’t notice a second or two per lap difference.
The 850cc era is the single most dangerous and injury prone era in all of MotoGP, regarding engine size.
The riders will never ride those size bikes again.'
Not ever.
It's over and good riddance to it.
They should have equivalency formulas that allow different displacements and max bore/stroke ratio. 4-850cc, 3-950cc, 2-1000cc. Those could be calculated so given equal BMEP they all make about the same power.
And allow more than one tire manufacturer.
And get rid of the stupid ride height starting devices.
Why not make it 125cc? Racing is racing 😆😆😆
Why not 50 Cc MotoGP moped racing with a top speed of 60 kph (37 mph) 😅
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@@wanderer54796 safety all the way in MotoGP. Next it's DEI quota racing.
5 riders have died on Western Australian roads this week, bikes are dangerous and I'd hate to think these guys don't risk it all when some of our boys are taken out by morons behind the wheel of vehicles. Died coming home from a $40,000 job 😔😔
Reject modernity, return to 5 cilinder 125cc race bike
@@robinv2758Only if they rev to 23,000 RPMs.
I’m hoping to see some triples ! A Vee 3 is pretty cool.
Toss the areo, ride hight for sure. Like other pro sports they have salary caps. Long over due to cap the team budgets.
Now that Liberty Media bought MotoGP, all of the future rules of Dorna will be rethought. The release that I read stated that they are not interested in 850s. They also will most likely eliminate rider aids and aero. They even said that they were interested in bringing back 2 strokes. If this stuff becomes reality, then the future of MotoGP is very bright indeed.
why on earth would any manufacturer waste time developing two-strokes? they are totally irrelevant to anything on the road
nah
@@fuzzy1dkLook around dude, the only thing relevant to the road is reducing emissions. That means electric and sustainable fuels. 2 strokes are perfect for high performance bikes, they are simpler, have higher efficiency(think combustion cycle, less friction losses) and are lighter. Developing these has no negative effect if sustainable fuels are being developed. That’s what’s most important.
@@coredaqqer6197 unless you are lookign at massive ship diesel engines, two-stroke are dirty and fuel inefficent .
@@fuzzy1dk Again, reread the comment. For High-performance applications like motorcycle racing, where they are using a sustainable fuel, it’s perfect. We are talking about world class engineers here that don’t have to cut corners in design.
850cc and banned aero would fix moto gp. Keep the 1000cc bikes alive with wsbs
Cause it worked so well last time 😂
All you got to do, is watch some of the older races, "Before" all this aero and other cwap came into existence. Much more entertaining, in my opinion.😎
You mean back when anyone who wasn’t on a factory bike was getting lapped?
I'll accept 850cc as long as they make them two strokes...👍👍
This isn't huge news, if you watch MotoGP, this has been discussed ALOT.
We tried this before kids… All we did was crash more and went back to 1000cc. We are suppose to look back at history to reference our past mistakes and experiences 🤦
Crashes are part of the sport the 800’s produced better racing and better riders than this era has
@@MrDannyboyhall This response is not thought through. I'll leave it at that... 🤦♂️
Here we go again....cost manufacturers billions to retool,engineer,etc. Stop doing this crap. There is sooo much electronic controls on the bike. Set a top speed...
Just add lead like they did to the 2S.
Yes please i will like to see a futuristic Kawasaki in the grid.
Using H2 based engine, F going backwards lets have some chargers on the grid.
No just limit the bore to 80mm
No aero and no ride height devices.
Would always love to see more manufacturers. I personally like the engineering aspect of aero that you don’t get to see in production bikes so hope they keep some element of that in there.
All comes back to bike sales...no one needs 200bhp on the roads,my old Honda Fireblade still wheelspins at 80mph in 6th,given our greasy roads!
Not sure what but i think a reset is a good thing
I wish I stopped fucking about with things🤦🏼♂️
They always do this, we've already seen the 800 class, it's so boring. For God's sake. They should go up in capacity, get rid of all aero and rider aids & let's leave it up to the rider and then we will see who's best.
WSBK . . . 😁
@@comontoshi WSBK is so boring
A old statement I know. lowering the CC's will make very little difference to speed, after all, you can only take this corner at 60 mph a small improvement on the speed maybe, anymore you in the gravel,
Y’all seen the new Harley baggers? 😂😂😂😂😘
Hah Lol
Hopefully they ban all the aero crap. Hopefully they add an additional class, 500cc injected 2-strokes.
Hearing the same old tat from most of peoples opinions…here’s mine as an engineer…aero has to stay with electronics and swing arm upgrades etc….this is what makes it the pinnacle of motorcycle sport.engineers are allowed a free reign within the rules and it’s bought some amazing motorcycles to the fore….or if we revert then there’s no need for a MotoGP class.we have to push boundaries to see what is possible.he 800 era was interesting without time to develop.the new 800s won’t be anything like there predecessors.and it’s not about Ducati dominance as Honda and Yamaha have also dominated at periods.sometimes shaking the tree gives a new perspective.
I feel MotoGP need all manufacturers to be involved... I don't care how big the power plants are. I just want to see close racing...
Stop crying Ride. height device., take it off. Leave the engine alone. Drive it, ride it, stop cry about it.
How stupid can they be. We have been here before.....everybody hated the bikes and it ruined the racing
The racing was far better than what we have now and better riders too
Learn to ride it We need thousands CC's don't go backwards. You need to hold shot device.
A change of engine size is aimed at giving the Japanese manufacturers an advantage, due to greater resources and testing of differing capacities, which the Europeans don't have. The Japanese have been embarrassed by the Europeans success and their inability to respond. Likewise with the pioneering aerodynamics which will also be banned. This is very short sighted, MotoGp currently enjoy a wide range of manufacturers and full grids, they should remember just a few years ago we had only Japanese machines, with grids numbering in single figures. World Superbikes was far more popular and Grand prix motorcycle racing could not justify its ‘blue ribbon’ title. The racing has never been as close and spectacular as it is now. Don’t mess with something that isn't broken. We really don't want to end up like the F1 freight train, where they need DRS to allow cars to overtake anywhere other than in the pits, where it's the car/team that wins not the driver, they will probably do away with the drivers and just run the cars remotely before long, saving a fortune on their primadonna drivers!
The trend of all of motorsports dialing back on power and speed is so anti motorsports. I hate it. F1, WEC, WRC, MotoGP...everything gets slower.
This is really Bad because it is going to cost manufacturers ten or hundreds of millions developing new engines and within A year or two bike will be just as fast as They are now. You should limit top speeds or engine power so the bikes are more equal... Leave the electronics as they are because with this much power, eventough some would like it without electronics as it would get more interesting, but we need this Electronics to keep Riders safe
@maticcro5992 thanks for the first sane comment I read about riders safety and skills. I guess the dudes writing it reuires almost no skill, just ful throttle and let the electronics do the rest have no idea what they are talking about and probably never sat on a bike close to the performance of a modern race bike.
I am a hobbyist and have a Daytona 675R for the track without electronics, which is good to train my skills.
But at the same time I don't wanna miss dynamic electronics like TC on my Super Duke 1290 R with 50 HP and twice as much torque and have a truck load of respect for the riders, knowing how unreachable this is for me, high siding does really hurt
Forget reducing the CC, how about halving the strokes hm?
It’s a shame about what’s happening to MotoGP. It just seems like they’re sabotaging everything just like f1. WSBK is way better because of less rules.
Does this mean we are going to get new 850cc inline 4 sportbikes from yamaha, honda, kawasaki, etc. ? And will be for sale in north america usa..
They already tried that, the result was that corner speed was even higher.
The whole reason i liked moto gp is because it didn't have a tonne of restrictions like f1
Didn't they already try 800cc ?
We are currently getting the closest and best races in MotoGP ever……if it’s not broken don’t try and fix it!!!
There's no such thing as a dangerous track,the riders should ride within the track limits.
Lol just make them meet emissions, those numbers will come down hard.
Or, better yet, limit teams to two engines per season with no displacement restriction or weight minimum. Then we might get something worth buying out of the development.
Edit: Tertiary to the above rules, implement horsepower limits on certain tracks, that way certain (slower) tracks will bunch up the slower teams, and, there'll be less incentive to build 300hp monsters because you have to lug that weight around at the "regulated" tracks.
Reducing the speeds...? Ummm.... How about no rules: Whatever gets you around the track fastest, wins. That would be limiting in itself, and would be consistent with the idea of an elite class. I do hate the aero, tho. Those bikes are ugly. UGLY.
These aerodynamic devices are dangerous to the marshals and that should have been the reason why they were banned years ago.
Go to 750. It made good racing on WSBK 30 years ago.
Why slow them down and making them smaller cc !! ? This is nuts stupid !!!! The bikes are fine the way they are !!!!
They almost ruined the sport and forced into bankruptcy last time they lowered the cc' displacement. Just ban aero and electronic rider aids. There are plenty of electronic advancements they can make to the motors themselves which would create more linear powerbands, eliminating the need to electronic aids.
Wrong idea!! motogp need 1200 cc and cut off all aero.
When these rich investors and bosses get involved they always screw things up. Why can't they just drop all the aerodynamics and leave it like it was. You make the engine smaller you lose fans.
850cc V4 or 1000cc I4?
actual Moto GP are way way overpowered and that's why all the electronics and aerodinamics..the championship needs a step back..
the 800s were awful no reason to think 850 would be any better. 1000 or nothing!
No aero, no electronics. Let the riders actually ride the bikes. This is supposed to be the highest level of motorcycle riding. Let the riders show their talent, not the electronics.
Moto GP will have to change to be watchable.Its not two wheeled F1.I don't watch it now.What a thing to say about motorcycle racing.WSBK is interesting at the moment,but must not be influenced by Moto GP.Watch 5 minutes of 500cc racing from the 80's and 90's,its so exciting to watch.Even the circuits are boring and too similar.
Its a mistake, just rev limit the 1000s so that make around 275hp
Go back to spring coil valves. Pneumatic valves will never come to the streets.
This will lower performance and even out the field.
Keep the aero and all the electronic rider aids.
Go the other way, turbo 1200cc 450hp last man standing wins.
if they do reduce aero,electronics. screaming 850s. whats not to like! back to riders skill. and become a true prototype premier class again.
Joa loco, complicao'
aero is a problem for so many reasons remove that
Dunno 850 seems okay.....as long as they go back to 2 strokes....😂😂😂
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CMOTO will be there. they already have a stake in KTM
If they do this im stop following in protest
How tf everyone on the streets gonna be 1000cc and motogp 850cc?
This is why I turned to cycling 😅
Well all that's about as clear as a puddle of mud !
Motogp will not have many years left. Especially not with the new owner
Ah , not this again . 1000 750 500 250 125 call it a day.
Again this site owner is a fanatical honda fanboy and would tear the sport down for honda japanese to be win even though japanese engineering so weak.
Something’s wrong with you and your channel, stop using Marc thumbnail for every video. He doesn’t care about the engine size
Liberty media who owns F1 bought Moto gp from spanish owner...This is result of that
moto go racing is expensive to watch and sprint races are pointless , moto go has no audience in the UK anymore
850 cc 2 cylinder engines 😢 with aero 🤮