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Can this £15 part FIX my BROKEN E92 M3?
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Feel for you mate when i had mine e92 m3 never had not 1 problem got a FB0 M3 now but miss the e92 good luck with it all 😊
You should use an OBD reader thingy, and see what codes pop up.
Get a Carly OBD diagnostics tool to pull the code it is throwing so you don't keep guessing what the issue is and waste money. It will come in handy. I daily drove a supercharged e92 M3 that I bought brand new, modified and still have. Car has been amazing throughout my entire ownership. When maintained well they are one of the best cars ever made.
In your case, if I had to guess I would bet that it's the starter, especially if it's not clicking.
Very telling you aren’t using the A45 and would prefer to drive stripped out Golf 🤔
Just plug a diagnostics tool in to the OBD port.
Just for future a relay can be tested and bypassed within a few minutes with a multimeter to save you buying parts. Next step of you can access it would be to check your feeds and earth to the starter motor. It could be a corroded wire or bad engine earth cable if you’re lucky. If not then on a 16 year old 90k car on its original start motor it could well be that too . Let us know what it was when sorted please. If I was closer to you I’d happily come sort it for you 👍
Had this exact same issue on my E60 M5, the cause was a bad battery! My car had a relating voltage code in the CAS and ecu, new battery, registered and started straight up!
Interesting! It wouldn’t start even on a jump pack?
No, I had a intelligent jump pack on it too! Problem was the Intelligent Battery Sensor detected low voltage from the battery but does not see the extra voltage from the jump pack. You should have some codes as I say…. Reason I think this is your cluster had the transmission cog, ! Etc etc which makes me believe battery!
Best of luck 👍
@@mikesingh7380 IBS will see the extra voltage as long as you're not connecting the jump pack directly to the battery.
Did your car's starter at least make a loud click when you tried to start it?
@@Assimilator1I connected the jump pack to the terminals at the front of the car. Still would not start, neither was there a click from the starter. I thought the same thing; starter had given up. But many codes were stored & current for under voltage on various modules including the Cas & ecu which also stored codes ‘starter doesn’t engage’
Cluster was showing all different errors.
I had the battery tested which wasn’t that old showing a dead cell and was exchanged for a brand new one. Literally problem solved.
@@mikesingh7380 your jump pack probably had a bad connection with the jump points, I've seen that happen quite often, even when both look perfectly clean, it's needed the clips twisted from side to side before good contact is made. I work at a BM dealer and have quite often jump started cars just fine (unless the battery is totally dead! Lol).
Not saying it wasn't your battery, just saying why the jump pack didn't work 👍
Gutted you didn’t get it started
Don’t let it derail you as everything is a big Learning curve. Love the BMW 8V M3
Love your channel
Happy new year thank you
Thank you buddy. Happy new year
Have you tried your Carly reader?
Not saying it is the issue but these and the e60 generation BMW were very sensitive to low battery causing a whole raft of different issues. They need to be on trickle chargers if not going to be driven for 2 weeks or more.
If its the original starter and Alternator?? Being 16 yrs old? Maybe its just normal for these to wear out at this age?? So is it not reliable? Or just needs parts replaced? Drawbacks of owning an older car I suppose. You either have Car Payments, or Car maintenance bills, pick one. haha.
Hey Luke,
Don’t let it get you down. I’ve got an 18 year old
E46 M3 CS with 145k miles and I had about 12 months when the bloody car kept breaking down with various issues, and it took me ages to get over the fear of “will it die yet again!” That feeling eventually goes - stick with it, your confidence will come back. Just remember the fun & feeling it gives you when it’s running perfectly👍🏼cheers.
Not worth it
@@philip244 and why is that ? Surely you don’t bin a vehicle just because it’s gone wrong a couple of times !
Had a similar issue on my E91. Turned out to be a corroded ground cable from the starter motor to the body.
I had exact same issue last year with my E92 M3. Turned out to be the earth strap. Only found out after a new battery and relay!!
Dude...just get a scanner and check for codes before throwing parts into it...even if part you bought was only 15 quids, you could've put that towards a scanner/petrol...etc. Just get ISTA-D and check for codes...it's a must with these cars. Good luck buddy!
Luke I have the same problem with my bmw e93 m3 can you tell me how you fixed it.
Starter had a the exact same problem on an e90
Have you thought about completely stripping out the entertainment and aircon from the Golf, and installing a litebloxx carbon battery?
You could lose some serious weight with these
Check engine earth strap. There is one under the engine near to the ground. (runs between the engine and the chassis) They can corrode to the point where the engine will not start. Sometimes it will snap in two, as soon as you move or wiggle it.
Another problem area is the positive battery leads running from the battery to the front of the car. they can corrode severly at the point where they go through the body and then go under the car, due to water getting into the boot area. (remove battery and check positive leads where they go through the bodywork behind the battery) Not sure if that affects the M3 cars though. I know it affects all other E9x models.
If none of the above, then I think it will be the starter motor.
What does Carley say?
Carly says this car is owned by a guy who breathes in & moans out a lot, doesn’t look after his M3 and seems to spend a lot of time at some garage who rips him off with part prices!
Thinks it’s expensive run… it’s a 4.0 V8 M3…. Must have bought a bad one! They’re fantastic cars.
Buy a battery optimiser from C-Tek, might give you one less thing to moan about!….🤔
@@darrenboston342thing is you’d think buying a premium brand product you’d expect it to be reliable? But they go wrong more and worse than something like a focus, fiesta or Corsa 🤷🏼♂️ weird eh?
@@sje106like with anything.. if its not looked after it’ll break. Being a premium car those breakdowns will cost a lot more 😂
A dead alternator won't stop you cranking the engine, or it starting, assuming there's enough battery power left (you'd at least get a clicking from the starter if that was the case, and the dash lights would die at the same time due to lack of power).
Really you need to scan for fault codes, this hopefully will be able to help you out.
Common/likely choices are, starter relay (you've tried that), faulty cables or connections to the starter or a dead starter.
Also possible (but somewhat less likely) is an immobiliser problem (although I don't think you were getting any immobiliser lights, right?), a faulty start button (even though it's doing something), wiring problem between the relay and starter.
It's had the battery lead recall right?
Don't assume it's the starter until you've ruled out other things.
Btw, don't let the battery go very low or dead flat will ya, otherwise you'll be needing to replace that too!
Looks like you having a gearbox issue as well
Firstly what does the it show as the fault on the CIC? That will give you some pointers, Secondly just get a fault code reader whether it be a phone app based one or a plug in hand held also get a multimeter & check the battery voltage, will save massively on the second guessing 👍🏻
Is that the golf R with Oldham Council interior spec
Great to see an honest video.
Does definitely sound like a starter selenoid problem.
Are there any codes ?
So disheartening when you can’t get to the problem yourself, so satisfying when you can!
Good luck 👍
Wild, I hope it works out for you mate 😅
Wishing you the best of luck 🙂
Could be a starter motor but need to plug in a reader to get some codes first but from the sound looks like it
Read the codes but I’ll bet it’s either a power issue or your starter. The booster pack may not be enough. Fully charge your battery or borrow/swap in a new one. Failing that it’s your starter, the click your hearing is the relay working so it’s not that.
use a code reader as 2 see what codes are popping up then go from there
Amazing car but I don't think it's best to rely on it as a daily, especially with that mileage 😅
Not having much luck are you currently on the M3.. however it does look great with the new wrap and wheels. Hopefully you sort it soon 👍🙂
Get yourself a testlight (bulb type) and a multi meter and I’ll guide you through a few quick wiring checks…
What code were you getting? A0B4? I’d always get a DTC before buying any parts.
I’d also imagine this is the original starter.
A bit unfair to call your car unreliable.
It’s a wear and tear item 🤦
How many cars do you own bro
Could be the starter??
monthly driving?
Is that a crack in your windscreen?
I can’t imagine anyone would be negative about a 15yr old car that’s constantly breaking down despite a small fortune being spent on it.
It you want a reliable daily driver …. Try a Toyota;)
As mentioned, I would like to know what that the fault codes tell you, and go from there.
However, while you are at it, do have a look at the ground wire near the front of the exhaust. These can get bad and cause starting issues (I have had a similar issue, without fault codes though, which has not returned after replacing that wire). Cheap part, fairly easy to replace if you can get under the car.
Anyone who says your negative hasn’t ever owned an older M car. Feel for you mate I’m having problems with my E39 M5 which is hard to stay positive when the car keeps letting you down.
Check power cables near the battery box for corrosion. Had same issues
Only BMW "fan boys" could call you negative BMW reliability is world renowned as non existent
Who services your M3?
Have you tried disconnecting and reconnecting the battery? Had an issue once with a Renault trafic, started fine when I left home but when I stopped to nip to the shop it wouldn’t start. Had ignition lights on etc but just wouldn’t start like the starter had died. Battery disconnected for a couple of minutes and all was good!
get a lexus isf for daily driving, buy the cheapest one you can find and share your experience
You have too admire your dedication to that M3
Ive had this problem on my e93 m3. The car would not start, I would have to disconnect the battery wait 30 seconds reconnect the battery and boom she would fire up and be ok all day until the car was left for a longer period of time until cold and then the same problem, i checked earth connection, was good, bought new battery, fitted and coded battery, and still the same problem, then I bought a starter off eBay for £60 (used) took me 7 hours to change the starter, everything back together and boom, fixed! HOWEVER, after a couple of months the problem is back! This time it starts ok when engine is cold but once warm its f””cking me around again! Maybe I should have bought a brand new starter? So, i will be replacing the starter again soon 🤦♂️.. good luck 😂
Unlucky mate, you tried and it’s all a learning curve. Probably the starter at a guess. Car is getting on. These things happen. My 2012 M135i has barely done 2k this year and cost me way more than that in repairs 😂 Owning a BM can be painful 😩
My guess is Its the starter solenoid, My friend and I have this issue during cold weather you just have to keep trying to start it or turn on the ignition and let it sit for a minute or two then try starting it again. Super frustrating as its my only car, I feel your pain!
I know exactly how you feel, i changed my battery, & alternator because my battery went flat , and it wasn't that,i had electrical issue with my car,my would crank but not turnover, al electrical lights on transmission,boot open,battery discharge,mine was 330d sport dct,2008, in the end it was electrical wires in the boot that ripped out was causing it, since then never had battery drainage, or not staring again,could be anything on yours check the ibs sensor on your battery they go faulty,hope that helps & hope you fix your E92 M power.
Not been horrible but the amount of problems you have had with it i would get rid and buy something else Audi S3 or RS3 there reliable cars
Sounds silly but maybe try the other key. I had an issue where the immobiliser in the key went and prevented the engine from starting. Could be worth a shot before spending big on possible fixes
Bizarre video. Is this some sort of irony? Why would a TH-cam influencer try to be a skilled mechanic? I must be missing the point...
Just thinking outside the box, but immobiliser issue? Hope you fix it soon.
Plug it up to check for fault codes. This is the 1st thing chris slix would do. Quote his code for 10 percent off
Wasting you time and money without scanning it. If you have a laptop ista and inpa are free and you can get an usb/obd cable for £30.
Love all your videos, and your cars are mega and I’m a R owner. But Why won’t you daily the A45S?
Check that starter for any loose connections. if all good then Put a live feed straight to the starter motor to see if it's that. Make sure the ignition is on and it fires up. then you can check the alternator for amp's with a multi meter. Old school tricks 😁👍
Not that easy, the starter is buried in the engine at the bottom if the V 😂
I have the same issue. Its been on the drive for 2 years. 😂
Sometimes troubleshooting issues is ruling out what is not causing the problem. Now you know it's not the relay, so that narrows it down a little bit. Not much help but at least it's progress!
Yer join the RAC lol
This happened to me on my 335d e92 the starter going just came out of the blue about a month ago my sympathies fingers crossed its not to hard to do but mines really need doing on a ramp m3 may be easier fingers crossed
I had a similar problem with my e60 m5, it was the pump motor on the smg gearbox. Can you hear the motor from underneath when you lock the car / open the door?
just a thought I think the issue is the started motor. Not the solonoid bc it’s clicking which means that the solonoid is engaging but bc ur not hearing that wering sound that would mean the starter motor spinning the issue would lie with the starter motor would be the issue not the solonoid which sits on top off the starter motor pls bare in mid I might be wrong
It could be the connections to the starter to name 1 other cause. No point on guessing on just 1 possible cause tbh.
Just for next time, the click you can hear is probably the relay functioning. Good luck and love the channel
Luke get a diagnostic fault reader plug it in and find out what's going on, that's the only way to find out what is actually wrong.
Not necessarily. There are a lot of things that do not throw codes.
you creating these problems to solve for content? how can the car have so many problems.
Have you tried to start it with a another key?
Some say the 'R' in M3 stands for reliability
Could be as simple as a bad brake pedal, earth strap etc. check for codes and continuity.
Check grounding stud next 2 battery
invest in a scan tool
BMW life 😂😂
You should be arrested for car abuse changing colour to that m3
You should be arrested for having a picture of a plane on your channel. And should be going to hospital for your jealousy illness. Guy has you going nuts.
When it does get fixed can you drive it before its off the road again for another 3 months please😂🤝 i feel for you my scirocco is exactly the same, been off the road for 2 weeks
Nothing more annoying than those small hard to track faults
Obd11?
sell it buy an M2 comp
A lot of that generation BMW’s need starters and alternators they power so much that when they don’t work properly car goes into meltdown lol 😂
Wth?? Lol, any car which has a battery or alternator problem can cause mayhem!
W204 facelift mate, would do all the miles all the time :') And this is coming from a BMW fan
I have the same issue but I'm able to jump start the car, its more of a issue in the cold weather
Not teaching you suck eggs luke but what is the battery status?sometimes it has enough jucie to light up the dash but zero cranking power to start the thing but as ever on these bmws once its gone past basics OBD reader is the next part of the diagnosis, great content all the same mate as its a learning curve for most watching, best of luck on this one....
If that was the case the dash lights would disappear when he tried to crank it, and you'd hear a loud click from the starter trying to go, we didn't see/hear that.
very sad ending to the video indeed. this car never seems to give you a break and that’s very sad
That sound,sounds suspiciously like a valvetronic noise it cost me over a grand to fix on my bmw
Passion for cars goes both ways and there’s no issues with venting. Any true enthusiast knows that
Very disappointing that you've deleted my comment Luke. I left you great advice and suggestions based on my own experience.
No idea why you've decided to delete it. Maybe you want to make a video off the advice and claim it as your own discovery. Sad really.
Oh well, lost me now. Shame as I enjoyed your M3 content.
Funny thing is you'll probably not delete this comment because it'll trigger defensive replies that will boost your video. So I'm still helping you...😂
If you posted a comment with a url outside of TH-cam, then youtube will delete it 🙄, so it might not have been Luke.
I've been caught out this way.
Sure they don't start when bonnets open
Bad battery
-Bad starter
-Bad alternator
-Bad ground cable (either IBS or near the exhaust/header)
You can hear the starter is sticking.
It's the starter motor mate
You don't know that! It could be any number of other things, wiring, battery cables/connectors, starter button, immobiliser problem etc etc
This guy is spoilt
Ohhh more jealousy, you jealous because hes (spoilt) how do you know hes spoilt? Surely you dont watch him that much to know. Whats that say about you little man…..