Comparing the Best Rods for BFS Fishing Bass Rods: Dobyns Sierra, Cashion Icon, Phenix Classic BFS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, Comparing the Best Rods for BFS Fishing Bass Rods: Dobyns Sierra, Cashion Icon, Phenix Classic BFS, Hobie-Wan Kenobi discusses the new 7'1" Phenix Classic BFS, Dobyns Sierra Series and Cashion Icon BFS bass focused rods and give pros and cons of each rod.
Digitaka.com Discount Code: K63
Phenix Classic BFS 7'1" Specs:
BFS-C 71
7′1″ Light
1 Piece
4-10 lb
3/32 - 1/4 oz (2.65 - 7gr)
Fuji Alconite guides
Cashion Icon BFS
7' Light
1 Piece
2-8 lb
1/16 - 5/16
Dobyns Sierra Series Micro Casting
SUF 700C
7'0 Light Mod Action, Ex-Fast Tip
2-8 lb
1/16-5/16 oz
FROM PHENIX:
The anticipation and long wait are finally over. From the industry’s #1 ultra light rod manufacturer comes the Phenix “Classic BFS” rod series! Bait Finesse System (BFS) is a Japanese form of light line; light lure fishing for heavily pressured fisheries. The Classic BFS is built on a proprietary 36T Toray Carbon Fiber blank with a solid Carbon Tip section. This, combined with the Extra Fast action, leads to the most sensitive BFS rods on the market. Utilizing Fuji Micro Guides with Alconite inserts, a proprietary complete contact reel seat on the casting versions, and a Fuji VSS reel seat on the spinning versions, with quality Portuguese Cork grips, lends to a very JDM look and feel. Casting light lures from 3/32-1/4oz, or .88-7.39 grams on a 4-10lb line, has never been easier with the backbone to pull in larger-sized fish. Whether it’s trophy bass or trout, in heavily pressured waters where light line and small lures are necessary for success, go armed for battle with a Classic BFS rod.
FROM CASHION:
The CR6r BFS blanks are designed with a fast-action blank, which is different from most BFS rods that offer a moderate-fast action. The fast-action blank allows the blank to load near the tip, which provides more accurate casting and allows your bait to stay in the strike zone longer. In addition, the fast action provides more power higher up the blank, which is needed for light power blanks to control and help play fish.
CR6r Blank Material Science:
Cashion Carbon Fiber fishing rod blanks are designed and manufactured in Sanford, NC. Cashion stands for American-Made, Material Science Technology, and the Craftsmen to build detailed-oriented carbon fiber fishing rod blanks. Cashion is obsessed with attention to detail and especially at the molecular level. Cashion carbon blank design has focused at the molecular level to utilize epoxies that excel at encapsulating and physically bonding to high performance carbon fiber.
● American-made blank and American sourced carbon fiber pre-preg
● Raw Finish CR6r blank for extreme sensitivity and durability
● Advanced Interface Bonding (AIB) - AIB is a combination of mechanical and additive technology to create ultra high bond strength at the interface of carbon fiber and epoxy matrix
● Proprietary Weight Reduction (PWR) Engineering - Novel reinforcing strategy to increase hoop strength but limit weight increase
● High Tg Epoxy (HTE) formulation with AIB - Novel epoxy with impressive mechanical properties and high modulus for increased blank sensitivity
ICON BFS Casting Rod Features:
● Specially engineered blank for finesse fishing with a baitcaster
● Fast action blank which provides fast responsive the blank for casting and reaction
● Handmade carbon fiber / fiberglass grip for a secure, durable, and dense grip to transmit even the most faint vibrations
● Micro guides for enhanced casting distance and increased accuracy
● Blank through reel seat design with direct blank contact for added sensitivity
● Ergonomic reel seat for all day casting comfort
● Best hook keeper design on the market. Engineered placement of hook keeper for fast lure hook up and removal
FROM DOBYNS:
The Sierra Ultra Finesse or BFS casting rods are a new addition for 2021. This series was built strictly due to angler request and the growing popularity. Ultra-Light bass fishing has become very popular over the last few years and we have heard from our anglers to bring back an Ultra-Light Finesse casting rod designed to throw baits as light as 1/16th oz (1.5g) and using 2-8lb line to target bass, panfish, crappie and trout..
These models will be in lengths of 7′ and 7’4″ and will be one-piece models. These rods are very small in diameter and super lightweight. Be on the lookout for these at a Dobyns dealer this fall.
FEATURES:
High modulus graphite blanks
Fuji Micro guides
Fuji reel seats
Kevlar wrapping
Balanced and splined blanks
Portugal cork - Split handle designs
Solid carbon tip sections - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Just the video I needed. The differences between all these rods seem so small but, hard to tell what exactly they are because people review one rod and not the others so, nothing is a direct comparison. This video helped a lot. Thanks
I live that problem everyday with fishing tackle. I'm still on the hunt for the perfect punching rod for me
Thank you for your input, I value your insight regarding Bucketmouth/Bluegill etc...BFS rods and reels. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Glad the videos are helpful to you.
I love your videos man. Approachable solid information, no fluff. I have been living in your vid library prepping for a Trout trip to Colorado. Thank you!
I appreciate the kind words. I will have some more trout content coming soon too. I been kinda behind on videos being busy with a few other fishing projects and just life 😂.
I completely get it! Finding time to fish is hard enough.
If you have time someday you oughta do one on when/why you choose braid to leader for trout fishing. I fish braid/leader for bass, trying to think of reasons to stick with that for trout:)
I let the rod tell me what line to use 😂
I have all 3 rods you reviewed!!
Your reviews are on point:)
I use the Cashion with bfs T-rig…So much fun!!!
Glad you like them! It's good for people to know a product is consistent among other anglers. Really helps people decide which rod is for them.
I bought the 7'1" Phenix paired with the Shimano Curado and absolutely love it. I have caught up to a 3lb smallmouth on it and those power dives are a riot on this rod. 6lb fluoro and i must say I use this more than my other rods. I haven't really docked fish with it and it is amazing how many varieties of fish you catch by using small crankbaits. One morning smallmouth, largemouth, rock bass, silver bass, walleye, pike, perch and bluegill. I agree the sensitivity is crazy on this rod!! Appreciate the videos!
I am equally impressed at the rod's versatility as well. Its great to be able to grab one setup and fish for anything from bluegill to walleye without missing a beat.
I have an “Old 18 Suppressor” 7ft ultralight bfs rod and they also make a light version for bfs or finesse applications. It’s really good for tiny jigs and small JDM hard baits! As always you have great gear reviews and videos!
I’m using the classic curado BFS 6’3 UL 2 piece fast action kestrel rod. I’ve been targeting bass crappie and perch on 1/16th Oz jig with swim baits and 1in cranks man what a blast 💥
Thank you so much for this video! Exactly what I needed since I smashed the tip of my old Phenix Maxim. Curious, how do you think the Daiwa Blazon compares? I'm looking for a 2 (or more) piece rod for easier travel.
I recently picked up the Phenix 6’9 for my new Conquest BFS and love it for small swimbaits and other small plastics on jigs. I also have Major Craft Benkei UL and L rods I fish my old Aldebaran 16’s on and they are solid BFS rods.
Major Craft makes some of the best bang for your buck rods on the market.
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I have the 6'9" Phenix Classic BFS. I got specifically to target Panfish and it feels like a much more expensive rod in hand. I suggest checking out the Jenko Double Double BFS rod if you can find one. It's also good for Panfish, which is what I use my BFS gear for.
That Phenix is awesome for panfish. Great taper and good power for those random bass that take your lure.
Awesome video! Thanks for clarifying the difference between those 3 rods. I have the 6’10” Cashion on order. I inshore saltwater fish mainly and some bass. What’s your take on the TSU Fox Hunting long cast rod?
I haven't used the Fox Hunting rods. That 6'10 Cashion should make for a nice inshore rod.
Got the 6'9 dobyns Sierra I like it for a variety of baits
It's a pretty versatile rod.
I’ve been using an Abu Garcia Veritas 6’10 ML for years now. It’s probably not considered to be a true BFS rod but its done very well for me with both bass and trout. It’s rated to throw down to 1/8oz but I’m still able to cast 1/16oz jig heads fairly accurately when I have to.
People nowadays are so UL BFS or die. BFS started more powerful than what mainstream BFS anglers consider BFS now. I really like those ML and L+ powered rods for legit finesse fishing.
@@HobieWanKenobi agreed, most people wouldn’t have given it a second thought not long ago. Sorry my rods and reels weren’t specifically marketed in North America for “BFS” applications.
@@bsbill No need to apologize. I like to use the right tool for the job, regardless of what the label says.
Let me tell ya one rod no one talks about but should is the legit design wild side rods. I have the wild side 6'4L bfs rod and its my favorite rod in the "L" power arena. Very sensitive has a beautiful bend stiff yet very flexible the whole rod will bend to play the fish and I just love fishing it. Super high quality, I got two more in different models with a couple more in mind for the future imo purely a work of art. Thanks for the video hobie-wan
I will look into those rods. I remember you mentioning them in the past.
@@HobieWanKenobiyea I also have the 6'4xh big bait special finesse rod and the 69mh frog rod and that frog rod with a moderate slow taper is still plenty sensitive and has the brass to also fish Texas rigs and weedless what nots. IMO probably the most versatile MH rod on the market. Each different model in the wild side line up has its own individual custom features which are optimized for specific techniques and different weight ranges. I'm so glad I stumbled upon those rods...as you know jdm sites provide a friendly price plus shipping but tackle warehouse carries quite a few legit design rods although they don't carry the 6'4L bait finesse rod. Thanks hobie
@@HobieWanKenobione thing, there are other rods that will throw a true 1/16oz lure better than that 6'4L wild side rod it's rated down to 1/16oz and will throw it but it really shines from like 2.5g to 12.
1/16oz total weight is quite small if factoring in the weight of the jig/hook and plastic. It's tough to find a rod that can truly cast its lower range without forcing the rod.
Where do you get these?
Great Video!!! I am really curious about the ML (~1/8-1/2oz) range of casting rods and what reels to pair with them. This range seems to be the bridge between the BFS and standard bait casting gear. I already have a ML spinning setup, but would like an ML baitcasting set up. There are a number of BFS rods AND standard baitcasting rods offered in this range (1/8-1/2oz). What exactly is the difference? The only thing I can think of (other than marketing) is that the BFS rods often have micro guides. At what line size and lure weight does a BFS specific rod and reel make sense, and why? If one is in the grey area of line and lure weight/size, what factors should sway you towards a BFS and non-BFS rod/reel. I live in the Chesapeake Bay area and do a mixture of inshore and freshwater fishing, so I need a versatile ML casting setup. Any thoughts about rod and reel selection for a ML casting setup? Thanks so much for the great content!
I think recent additions to BFS is a lot of marketing. There are quite a few ML rods out there that arent BFS rods that do quite well for finesse fishing. BFS reels definitely will help take advantage of the ML rid for all it can. Line capacity is is biggest factor with BFS reels. If the reel can hold enough line and you are casting 3/8oz and below, BFS reels will help. Most inshore anglers use braid anyway so, factor that into the line capacity for a BFS reel. Most BFS reels hold 50m of 8lb mono for your reference. There are saltwater BFS reels such as the Shimano SLX BFS and the Daiwa Gekabijin AIR TW. Cashion has an inshore BFS rod I havent used.
You like the cashion med light for 1/16 shakey head to 1/4 oz. Mainly using as a bottom bait rod. Thanks
Yeah. It's a great walleye rod too.
One rod I think you would enjoy trying out, I recently got the megabass triza "sparna" which is a very fun feeling travel "heavy" bfs rod.
I have the Alleo...super fun rod
I’m getting the phenix bfs and the conquest 23 what do you recommend I start off with before casting light lures
@@HobieWanKenobi Have you made a review of this Triza Alleo? Thanks again.
@@HobieWanKenobi would love to see a review of it! I love these travel rods for being able to fish anywhere without carrying a conspicuous one piece rod. Even got the dragoon for the other end of the spectrum, and it's a monster!
I will be reviewing the Alleo soon!
i use a conquest with a expride ML works great for bass ..5 to 15 grams ... going to try a light expride 3.5-10 grams
Those Exprides have been calling my name for a while. I already tell myself I have too many BFS rods 😂
Nice comparison….I would choose the Phenix if I was currently on the market for a BFS rod. The less power the more BFS in my opinion. Nothing for heavy cover for sure but when fishing heavy cover maybe an at least ml powered rod would be better anyways. Would the phenix be capable casting e.g. a Ryuki Spearhead minnow (50s/50f or smaller)?
The Phenix can definitely work lures like that. I really like the Classic BFS for open water bass. Around cover, I'd jump to that ML Cashion Icon BFS.
Hobie-wan I love your videos man and you may have sold me on the Phoenix classic rod...although I don't exactly need another rod lol😂 I could use a small jig rod throwing like eurotackle soft plastics and stuff for trout and crappie in lakes and ponds. I've been using the jenko double down bfs rod and I like the rod but it's a bit wippy. What rod in your opinion would be the best rod to fish those small plastics in lake/pond settings. I'm talking sensitivity casting and overall a pleasure to fish....I might just get the 5'10UL legit design wild side rod lol.
The Classic BFS would fit your needs perfectly.
@@HobieWanKenobicool thanks
No problem. Let me know how you like the rod if you order it.
Hey Hobie-wan. Love your channel. I actually have all three of these rods and agree with your comments. However, I’m looking for an ultralight bfs rod in two piece format. I have a Phenix Feather 7’1”L two piece that I use for heavier lures and larger fish when I need to carry a more compact rod. That works good for bass, large panfish, etc, but would like a two piece for lighter lures perhaps down to 1/32 or at least 1/16 oz. Any ideas? I realize you are very concerned with sensitivity and might not want to bother with a two piece. Just wondering if you might have much experience with two piece bfs rods. Thanks again for all your informative videos.
The Jackson Kawasemi Rhapsody 411UL is a 2 piece that has a fairly stout backbone. Would be a decent panfish rod if you don't mind a rod that short. That rod has been awesome for some bigger fish I come across in the rivers.
@@HobieWanKenobiThank you sir. I’ll look into it. Much appreciated.
@@mspellyt1 No problem.
Great and informative video. Is the Phenix better at casting Ultra finesse lures than the Dobyns and Cashion rods?
I would say yes. It wouldn't be my choice for say 1gr lures but, of the three rods, the Phenix is the best for lighter lures.
@@HobieWanKenobi That's great to know because out of the 3 it's lowest lure rating is 3/32 and the other 2 are 1/16. Thank you for making this Video and getting back to me. It was a big help! 👍🏼
Glad to help out!
I had the Cashion L powered just arrive yesterday and I have a DWU for my 1st BFS setup. Any recommendations for bfs bass lures to throw on it first?
Whatever lures you want 😂. The lures don't know if it's a spinning or BFS rod. The rod is designed for moving baits but, can handle single hook baits as well
I want a 2 rod bfs bass setup - one for bottom baits and one for treble hook baits. Im thinking 6'10 Cashion for bottom and the classic Phenix for trebles. Thoughts?
That would work great. The Phenix will handle lighter single hook baits as well.
Great vid's
You are talking about the Dobyns 701 but link the 700 ?
You can choose what rod from the drop down menu
Yes but you have it Dobyns Sierra Series Micro Casting .A heavy line rod series.
The SUF are Sierra Ultra Finesse Casting Rods.
Just had me confused, thanks @@HobieWanKenobi
@@markskibo5159 I'll look into it and swap it
Is the lure rating for the Phenix bfs accurate? What is your take on it?
It's pretty accurate. The low end on rods is always for putting force into the rod in order to meet that rating most times.
Have you tried the shimano expride bfs 6'8" rod?
I havent but, it will have a little more power than these rods.
I was looking at the zodias ML rod for finesse bass fishing. Have you had experience with that rod and if yes, how does it compare to the cashion ml?
I haven't used it. My guess from other people's experience with the Zodias is that it is slightly less power.
@@HobieWanKenobi thanks
@@DrinkWetPoopFishing No problem. I wish I could give you a better answer
Have you tried the Jenko Double Down BF rod?
I have not. I have more BFS rods than I know what to do with 😂
You forgot one important fact. The Cashion rod is built in Sanford NC, USA made rod, which is a big deal to a lot of people. The others, well made in China as all ways.
I was speaking on price to performance. I mention Cashion is build in the USA in my Cashion videos.
You feel like the Cashion can handle down to 5g or so? I'm in the mkt for a new rod and it has a lot of what I'm looking for. Just want to make sure it will cast as low as I need it to
It will handle 5gr. May take a little force loading but, if fishing open water, it will be fine
@@HobieWanKenobi sweet, thanks for the reply!
@@jnorman975 No problem
What's a good rod for bfs treble hook applications?
The Phenix Classic BFS can do light treble hooks just fine
My bfs rods:
1. Yamaga blanks bc-III 53/b (0.5-4.5 gr.)
2. Daiwa 21 Blazon C64L-BF ( 1/16-3/8oz)
3. Megabass Shoreluck SL-72 MLBF (for jighead 4-9gr)
That Shoreluck seems to be an interesting rod. How is the taper on that model?
@@HobieWanKenobi yes, very interesting rod. The taper is flexible, the tip is very sensitive and under strain it's deep parabolic. This rod handles small and large fish equally well. P s. Sorry for my English🙂
Your English is just fine. I really like Megabass tapers.
@@HobieWanKenobi next my megabass rod will be Triza Aello f0-63xtz. I think it has a little more power than my Yamaga blanks. We don't have bass in our area, so perch, pike and zander - our main fish species. And blue current is too gentle for pike when it comes for 4lb+
@@MGBS007 The Alleo should fit your needs for perch and zander. May be light for pike but, if the pike are just random, should be okay.
I’m a simple man. @hobie-wan kenobi posts, I click and watch. 😂
Quick question: I’m using the Sierra 701 and Curado BFS with 8lb braid to a 7lb flouro leader. I’m having trouble with the leader knot catching on the last couple guides. Any knot suggestions?
Best knot would be the FG. But for bfs use I would go full fluoro or mono and down to 5 or 4 lb. Simple for a simple man… That’s just my personal advice 😊😊
I usually run straight FC. The FG knot as mentioned above is the smallest. I run 7lb FC most times and it does great for bass and panfish. Could go smaller if mostly going after panfish or trout.
@@thomasjkz5133 Love it. Thanks!
@@HobieWanKenobi Thanks man!
Please review the Old 18 _Supressor_
Idk if I will. I have a ton of rods and have to be careful when buying...I am running out of storage space 😂
@@HobieWanKenobi Make room, trash something. You'll thank me later. And it's _USA MADE!_
Hi, what rod would you use for casting and reeling 1/8 - 1/4 oz. Crappie jigs a crappie spinners keeping in mind crappie have paper mouths. Great video's you do. Thank
I'd go with the Phenix Classic BFS 7'1" L
What would you use a 7’4 phenix bfs rod for?
I would use it for pier fishing. The extra length would be nice on the pier and imagine fighting a 7 lb fish on it.
The extra length would indeed help with pier fishing or in open water.
Is there any reason you can’t use a Medium fast rode?
Mostly because the power is a little too much to accurately cast the lighter lures, especially ose range.
@@HobieWanKenobi I went and got the cashion 7ft ultra light crappie rod. I was thinking it was the bfs …think there’s much of a difference?
How do they compare to aliexpress rods
AliExpress rods can be decent, kind of a gamble. These rods will generally have more backbone.
How about trying the Megabass Triza Aello BFS rod?
Wait around and find out I suppose 😂. I have one I just got
@@HobieWanKenobi Excellent. I have 3 Triza 2 spin and the heavy cast version but was wondering if the Aello would be a special bfs rod.
The Alleo seems pretty special so far. I need to get into more fish though. Only shore fished with it
@@HobieWanKenobi Thanks for the info. I only shore fish down in Florida when I am over from the UK. Buying the Triza range so I can travel with them without having to keep 2 sperate sets of tackle in each country. Really looking forward to your on the water review.
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I like the Irod 692C Air. The rod is 3 oz. It weighs practically nothing.
Very underrated brand. Their rods are dialed perfectly for the purpose
The Phenix weighs 3oz, Dobyns 3.45oz and Cashion Icon BFS 4.1oz. What are the specs on that Irod 692c?
@@HobieWanKenobi Rod is 3 oz even,
Length:6 ’9″
Lure weight:1/8-3/8
Line weight:6-10
Power:Medium/Moderate. I’m sure with a proper BFS reel, sub 1/8 oz lures wouldn’t be unrealistic
Thanks for the info! Seems similar to these rods.
Expride m/l with a Shimano BFS reel.
Which Shimano reel are you using?
@@HobieWanKenobi their Corrado BFS
@@jarrodcork9044 Good choice!
Yea can’t complain
Surprisingly you don't review the Shimano 64LB BFS rod on your channel, plus you can't say that you only cover gears that is made in America, because some of your stuff/gears is mostly JDM too
These 3 rods are available in the USA, that and price range is why I compared them. I have a few JDM BFS Bass rods but, haven't got around to reviewing them yet. I also have to be mindful that I have WAY too many BFS rods as it is. Every review takes me getting another rod.
@@HobieWanKenobi I just want to see what’s your thoughts and opinions on that Zodias, but yes the bfs rabbit hole can get pretty deep if you go crazy 😝
I have seen mixed opinions on the Zodias line.
@@HobieWanKenobi will it’s way better the than the so-call 72ML + BFS model 😂 that rod is nothing near a true bfs rod, although it’s a pretty good jerk bait rod though 😂
It's really tough to get that "it factor" rod without having it in hand. I been burned more times I can count gambling on buying a rod from the Internet.
Most BFS rods are way too light for bass IMO. Just a regular light or ML are what I use.
It's because many people hype up casting tiny lures with BFS. It's a method of BFS fishing. Using finesse bass lures requiring a more stout finesse rod is another method. Just need to find a rod to fit your needs instead of falling into the hype
True, I only bfs in small creeks and streams where no bass exists therfore don't have worry about the rod being to soft. I mainly use jdm rods that have lighter bend than the rods made in the states for BFS fishing.
Fighting bass on BFS rod is extremely fun. 4 lb fish feels like a monster.
Thanks for all the reviews. I have already all the rods except the Cashion. I hope to get a cashion soon. What reel are you using on the Phoenix? Thanks again.
That is the Shimano Conquest BFS.