Well young Joseph was too stubborn and rash so he didnt think too kindly. After old Joseph’s past events, he had known better and learned from the mistakes. HE LITERALLY SAVED CAESAR’s LIFE!
@@bensell982 if they had more than a month to track down Dio before Holly was going to die, Joseph would've taught all of the Stardust Crusaders Hamon, probably.
Was gonna make the exact same comment. He's just back there like "Yeah, none of this has anything to do with me. You guys just hash it out however you like, lemme know if you need any ORA ORA ORA."
@@MariaLopez-lu8bf there's no paradox: travelling time is just replacing the current part of the timeline with an old one but with you there making it a new one. About "fate" as it may seem you are changing "fate" you're not as it is part of the "fate" that you would swap the future with the past and creatwe a new timeline based on it.
@@scotcheggable Stop time for 5 seconds, Oraora them. They regenerate and start using weird techniques on him. He tries it again. Doesn't work again. The World stresses his body, so he can only use it for 3 seconds next time. He hasn't found out a way to damage them. One of them touches him an absorb him. The end.
@@AgnusCavichioliPereiraDude, even if that was the case and they could recover from a milkshake brain, he could just store chunks of them in multiple boxes and wander off with the head or some shit.
Old Joseph, Caesar, Young Joseph, and Lisa-Lisa can use Hamon. Have Star Platinum in stopped time pummel them to a bloody pulp and have the other 4 inject hamon into their wounds before they can regenerate.
7:54 “For us, six days is no more than the blink of an eye.” *Sorry Kars, but I haven’t seen you or the other pillar men blink once in this entire video*
Older Joseph being able to stop his younger self from having that notorious argument with Ceasar was really touching to see. It had likely haunted him for his whole life, so being able to make things right probably gave a lot of closure.
*Old Joseph:* "Jojo, come here for a second." *Joseph:* "Eeeh? What do you want, old man?" *Old Joseph* "What is it with everyone calling me 'old man'? Anyway, you'll be tempted to peek at Lisa Lisa. Don't." *Joseph:* "Wait, why-" *Old Joseph:* "DON'T!"
Dante Edgeworth Only people/stands I could imagine beating ultimate cars without sending him to space would be Okuyasu - The hand Vanilla Ice - Cream Yoshikage Kira - Killer Queen The guy from the pylon Cheap Trick Gold Experience Requiem Alleyway inbetween Owson and that other store
Probably a box Okuyasu and his brother were looking for a stand user to kill their dad meaning he must have used the hand on him at some point and it didn't kill him, and the dad was morphed by Dios cells and seeing as pillar men are better vampires and ultimate Kars was like the best of that I somehow think he would regenerate it
That's what Joseph wanted to say to Ceasar in Switzerland for years, but never got the chance. He never got the chance to apologise to him, to try to help his friend, instead he found his friend went on a suicide mission without him, just to save his life... Imagine having to live with that for all those years, it would be torture. He was the one that emotionaly pushed his friend over the edge, he probably blamed himself partially.
Imagine how many times Joseph must have played this scenario out in his head. Late at night, trying to get to sleep, wondering if he could have saved Caesar if only he’d said something different. He’s been iterating this exact moment out in his mind thousands of times, so of course he’s come up with the perfect thing to say.
Caesar had Wamuu where he wanted him, backed into a corner. The problem is that he got too hasty and gave Wamuu an opening. Don't put yourself in a position where you shade Wamuu and allow him to attack.
Or even in the manga somehow, imagine that, somehow every JoJo meeting up in the end to probably fight and die or win against some undefeatable thing. and interacting with each other too.
Lisa-Lisa: Let's get going, JoJo. Joseph, Old Joseph, and Jotaro: Yes, m'am! Lisa-Lisa: I mean Joseph. Joseph and Old Joseph: Yes, m'am! Lisa-Lisa: The young Joseph.... Joseph: Oh, right.
@@IC-23 Stands are actually knows as "ghostly ripple" ripple being hamon, so in theory stands are actually like ur psychical manifestation of your hamon. Plus even if Jotaro doesnt kill them it will give Joseph, Ceasar and Lisa lisa time to destroy them
Mandalorehero oddly enough if they'd have maintained their training like LisaLisa: Caesar and Joseph would've maybe looked about 30-35 in part 3. (since LisaLisa looked 20 at 50*) (*I think it said she was 50)
Caesar would have stuck with it for sure, but I doubt Joseph would have. I just think it would be such a cool scene for an older, more experienced Caesar to face DIO in Cairo to get revenge for his grandfather. Although honestly, thanks to The World, that fight would end in a few seconds.
I'd say more around the time-span of 3-Minutes that translates to 0.1 of a second in universe that's supposed to represent nine seconds instead of the three minutes it turned out to be.
@@aions_end actually in game, it was all changed. will zepelli lived, caesar lived, kakyoin lived, avdol lived, iggy lived and jotaro was a present father for joylene. but that’s only in game canon ofc
@@suli0786 well it’s canon for their universes, jotaro and old joesph managed to “fix” their timeline (part 3) then went to each timeline and fixed it, just makes me happy that there’s a timeline where jonathan lived and his descendants lived happily ever after without dealing with dio’s bullshit
Kars trying to snap them out of that like "Yeah lis- uhhhm......you ancest- ...they didn't listen...uhh........(oh they paused) BUT IT'S TOO LATE TO TURN BACK NOW."
Jotaro : *starts smoking in the middle of scene* Lisa Lisa : Can I have one? Jotaro : Sure. (I would love to believe Lisa Lisa's demeanor is where Jotaro got his badassery from)
"If we don't send someone at the safe at scheduled intervals a time bomb will explode the red stone" You forgot that the bomb will rewind time to an hour before.
Old Joseph didn't outsmart them, he just shifted the argument to become so awkward that the Pillar Men were glad for any excuse to walk away from it as soon as possible.
this shows that joseph did regret what he said to caesar through all those years. i love how he puts both himself and caesar into their place and scolds them for being selfish and irrational.
I feel like the Joestar bloodline inherently can use hamon if they train enough. Like an ability lying dormant. Maybe that's why they always look so young lol
I like how Joseph had to talk his way through the whole thing even known I'm pretty sure all it would take is Jotaro staring menacingly at everyone to get them to back the hell off.
@@BoreBone I see a lot of people saying that, and you're right, he can use his stand to conduct hamon, however, Joseph himself admits his hamon is far weaker than when he was at his peak during his exchange with DIO. So, unfortunately, nope, he likely wouldn't be able to kill the Pillar Men anymore.
Mr. Monocle but then again the stands can conduct hamon all it takes is to get close to them get behind jotaro give him hamon that then goes through star platinum.... profit
Old Joseph knew exactly what to say in this argument to stop it in it's tracks. Which makes sense - he's probably replayed that particular argument in his head a lot in the 50 years between the original argument and now.
I think it's so cool that Old Joseph is still at least slightly intimidated by the pillar men just from his memories of how intense and nearly fatal all of his battles with them were. Araki has some impressive character depth sometimes. I'd argue on the level of Wheel of Time easily.
Jotaro also bluffs really well. Remember D’Arby the gambler. But yeah Joseph is amazing at it. I also like how he pulled the exact same bluff that Lisa Lisa pulled in the actual anime, with the small explosive.
Old Joseph: "If something goes wrong, the survivors will be full of deep regrets. And I think you know exactly how that feels." I think you know how that feels more than anyone else, Joseph (Shiiiiiiiiiizaaaaaaaa)
Kars at this point doesn't have the red stone and as i see it the Pillar men are in disadvantage as this scenario with Old Joseph having a stand and has experience fighting and beating the Pillar men and Jotaro who could stop time and could outclass the Pillar men in speed and strength with Star Platinum and not to mention the Pillar men cannot see stands too
@ReyaitheShadowWolf So you actually Enjoy seeing's Wamuu's bananna stick out through that thin underwear of his? you sick fuck. But if it's your thing ok, so be it. Be happy Kars is wearing chains and a cloth for you. one wind blow and whoosh there's his Junk. I can never unsee the Pillar men's half naked attires. I'm honestly surprised NO ONE even commented on their Attire.
To be honest I'd imagine although Kars was talking with the others, his eyes were focused on the young man at the back. The black coat, the golden chains, and a bizarre hat which blends with his hair. Gave Kars a look he won't forget, cause it was a menacing one.
I can see it now... Jotaro: .... Kars: Hm? A non Hamon warrior? Come! Kars shall be your opponent. Jotaro: .... *looks at Joseph* Not today. he's your problem not mines.
Mario Almanza I don't see why not but i think its mire about disrupting the timeline. He wouldn't become the man he is today (1988) without those experiences
Joot gets owned 3 on 1. Pillar Men may not see Star.But who cares?He was overwhelmed by a bunch of knives Dio threw. Kars slices bullets like it's nothing,Esidis ate a stick of dynamite and Wamuu killed an army of Dio-like vampires.
lmao so true Ayo *Naked Men* I heard that you were talking shit about my *Beautiful Hair* so, I'm afraid to tell you, *THAT YOU FREE TRIAL OF LIVING HAS EXPIRED*
this game is pain no, i'm not saying it's bad, i'm saying that joseph knew that that conversation was gonna end in pancake caesar and intervened the fuck out of himself who wrote this and why are they playing with our feelings like this
Kien D. Nguyen but he let it happen anyway as he was involved in the game's story overseering it while in its development cycle. its still him by accountability my dude
ZidanReignVG well he could just be like "yeah whatever, I have to work on JoJolion", the game doesn't matter that much to him, it's not part of his canon
You know, if this lead to Caesar surviving Part 2, I'm guessing Joseph still might have lost his hand anyway somehow. I still wonder if Perfect Kars still would have happened, though.
Probably. Even if Ceaser had survived, I wouldn't think it would effect the plot THAT greatly. Wamuu's fight ultimately would have been the same, as well as Kars initial victory given that even with JoJo and Ceaser teaming up, things still wouldn't initially be in their favour.
Even if the anomalies have already taken effect in that era, older Joseph really didn't care about any space-time disturbing consequences if he wanted to prevent younger Joseph and Caesar going into that traumatic argument again.
Mohammad Kurniawan Honestly, extra stories/fan-made stories are the lifeblood of a fandom. Like, I had a story in my head where all the JoJo villains fight each other in a Battle Royal. And it would have some cool scenarios, like Diavolo’s Time Skip vs. DIO’s Time Stop, and Yoshicaga Kira’s Sheer Heart Attack sent to kill someone, only to immediately go after AC DC.
That's fucking disappointing. Then again, much like Kars' defeat, they had to be written out of the story because they're too powerful, I suppose. If they stayed, they'd wreck all the other characters.
4:46 the words he wanted to say his whole life. Those words could have saved his friend he cared for as a brother. Imagine 50 years, 50 long years how simple just those words could have prevented a lifetime of regret and pain. The fact he knew exactly what to say to both Caesar and even himself shows just how much he has regretted this argument and has been thinking what to say. What this game shows is that Joseph really knew how arrogant and selfish he was when he was young, and understood now why Caesar was so bent on revenge. This right here is the best joseph in any version because he got a chance to correct and stop his biggest failure in his life.
Pliskin but, but little jolyne in morioh, THE BONDING POTENTIAL, *THE DIFFERENT WAYS MANY FIGHTS COULD HAVE GONE IF JOLYNE WAS THERE WITH OR WITHOUT STONE FREE*
I have no idea who Jotaro pulled a turtle out of his pocket... please don't ruin it, i want to find out in time for now it will just be the funniest thing i've seen today
they can. Nukusaku from Part 3 proves that vampires can naturally see and damage stands with their physical attacks, when he's able to see, attack, and even damage (slightly) Star Platinum. He is explicitly stated to only be a vampire and does not possess a stand.
I never played this game and just started stardust crusaders but i love how Jotaro is just standing in the back while Old Joseph changes his own history...even if these events are a bit out of order
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Old Joseph kills the Pillar Men with his amazing engrish.
it's sad cause reading this I imagine the voice from Skyrim and a pillar man just exploding whenever he hears "HORRY SHEEEEIIIT"
Joseph*
PokeDude011 OH NO!
*ord josef kirrs za pirrar men with his amazing engrish
@@dawgly4815 I love you
Joseph...is insulting Joseph. Now I've seen everything.
lol
It makes sense, P2 Joseph sees him as a hag or something while P3 sees P2 as the foolish side he once had.
It's like how DIO finds Dio insulting
Reminds me of a scene from justice league unlimited
Well young Joseph was too stubborn and rash so he didnt think too kindly. After old Joseph’s past events, he had known better and learned from the mistakes. HE LITERALLY SAVED CAESAR’s LIFE!
Kars: “Hoh! So now all Hamon warriors are assembled...”
Jotaro: *stands awkwardly in the background*
But technically, stands are also called
Spirit Hamon so
But he was never taught to use it the "Hamon" way so this is still funny
@@quocanhtranhung2181 not sure why though. It would've made the battle with dio easier
@@bensell982 Then he would be too op. Just imagine each Star Platinum's punch embed with Hamon.
@@bensell982 if they had more than a month to track down Dio before Holly was going to die, Joseph would've taught all of the Stardust Crusaders Hamon, probably.
Pillar Men 98% of entire cutscene: *Silent.*
Joseph Joestar: They never shut up!
That's the point.
He's not wrong. You can't shut up if you were never talking.
Joseph is fluent in Morn-speak
He's about to turn into Part 4 Joseph
It's just bad translation
jotaro tried to understand what was going on
eventually, he stopped thinking
so thats why he was standing in the back for 10 minutes...
“Ill just punch ghost them”
"Hamon? Good grief, I can take down those three myself since they're all the *same type of Stand of me*
Haha well played.
Dios stand, the world was placed up on the fridge, where dio couldnt reach it, eventually, the world stopped thinking.
Kars: *Laughs without opening his mouth*
Speedwagon: "HE'S THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM, HE HAS NO WEAKNESSES!
and esidisi had to repeatedly open his mouth to say "hmmmmmmm" lol
He’s unkillable ! Unmatched
There a being every higher than speedwagon is Araki hirohiko
The creator of jojo bizarre adventure
@@bulldozer281 Araki is the holy corpse, which explains why you cant see the penis. ZING!
even speedwafiu is scared
This pretty much the equivalent to coming up with a great comeback after the argument is over. Joseph had a long ass time to come up with this.
Jayden Name You'd be surprised to know what you can think up after 50 years of guilt
Strange part is he uses the same fucking excuse as last time. Only it works.
legoman7041actualy that was Lisa Lisa's bluff he used against the Piller men
legoman7041 His persuasion skill wasn't leveled up high enough back then.
Scharlach927 Speech 100,000*
Jotaro: Yare yare daze I don't know what's going on but it's none of my business so I'll just stay back.
Was gonna make the exact same comment. He's just back there like "Yeah, none of this has anything to do with me. You guys just hash it out however you like, lemme know if you need any ORA ORA ORA."
Jotaro's Thoughts: We gonna get around to fighting, already? Sitting back and talking just isn't my style.
Hit this is what happens when the other side don't piss him off.
I bet when he heard about waiting 6 more days he was like "Why am I even here?"
Hit
When you remember that Jotaro and Hit have the same english voice actor.
“Hey jojo”
Jotaro: huh?
Joseph: huh?
Also Joseph: huh?
The three jojo's
".... I think I see the issue here."
Joseph: "Oh you think?!"
JOJO JOJO JOJO
@@Jamgelo the three jojoteers
The three Joeskateers
10:41 "Gimme a break" - said Jotaro, after 10 minutes of standing there and doing literally nothing
LMAO
Ikr. Jotaro that was a frigging break. At this point, I'm so close to having Johnny use Tusk Act 4 on this kid. Jotaro needs to go back to school.
@@ShadowKnight5204 Well, he technically did. He became a frickin marine biologist.
@@krystalisee well he needs to do it again
So basically what i do when i sit down to study, but just blink twice and do nothing
"What the hell do people who died 50 years ago have to do with this, you idiot?!"
*Old Joseph internally screaming*
OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO.
Stevethebarbarian I see it more as one continuous *OOOOOHHHHH NNNNNNOOOOOO*
Meme Dweeb SUNUVA BEACH
AHORRYSHIEET
rip Caesar
9:54 rare occasion where jojo is telling jojo to follow jojo while jojo is laying down a turtle to let jojo and jojo join
This is too underrated comments
Jojoception
@@jonathanjoestar5421 yes you have all the jojo’s, isnt that right jojo?
Jojo
r/ihadastroke
The game really does some justice to old joseph.
He might still not be as quick-witted, but at least he's wiser.
And he can still be pretty quick-witted when he wants to be, like using Hermit Purple to draw water from the storm drain to keep from getting shocked.
@@VGamingJunkieVT or writing a map in the sand
Making a map with ash to determine the location to a vat of coal tar was definitely pretty cool. :3
He's quick witted but doesn't care most of the time until his wits are really needed ...
Lol yeah and remember when he pranked the shit out of jotaro right after being revived?
Poor Oldseph. He knew he had to stop himself from pissing off Ceasar. He wanted his friend to survive.
AND BRING ON THE PARADOX
What a luck for past him isn't?
@@MariaLopez-lu8bf there's no paradox: travelling time is just replacing the current part of the timeline with an old one but with you there making it a new one. About "fate" as it may seem you are changing "fate" you're not as it is part of the "fate" that you would swap the future with the past and creatwe a new timeline based on it.
@@fabrypetty1689 endgame style
young joseph: *starts insulting ceasar*
oldseph: *vietnam flashbacks*
Kars : "Now, all Hamon warriors are assembled"
Jotaro : *Dafaq is Hamon?"
I think jotaro already knew what hamon was
@@lordoftoasters2748 lol, I forgot that Joseph told him in the beginning of Stardust Crusaders when I made the comment
@@skye387 Oh hey you use Misane Mikoto as your pfp. This is rare :0
@@AsclepiusHoe lol yep, it's been so long I'm too lazy to make new one
Jotaro skipped part 1 and 2 lmfao
Jotaro:Old man you know i can ki--
Joseph: Shut up Jotaro ive been rehearshing this for the past 50 years
Jotaro would certainly like to think so, but the Pillar Men would obliterate him.
@@DraculaCronqvist this is jotaro with prime star platinum with the ability to stop time.
No, the pillar men would be fucked beyond belief.
@@scotcheggable Stop time for 5 seconds, Oraora them. They regenerate and start using weird techniques on him. He tries it again. Doesn't work again. The World stresses his body, so he can only use it for 3 seconds next time. He hasn't found out a way to damage them. One of them touches him an absorb him. The end.
@@AgnusCavichioliPereiraDude, even if that was the case and they could recover from a milkshake brain, he could just store chunks of them in multiple boxes and wander off with the head or some shit.
Old Joseph, Caesar, Young Joseph, and Lisa-Lisa can use Hamon. Have Star Platinum in stopped time pummel them to a bloody pulp and have the other 4 inject hamon into their wounds before they can regenerate.
"...If something goes wrong, the survivors will be full of deep regrets. And I think you know exactly how that feels."
Fuck my heart is in pieces.
Old Joseph wasn't about to let that event play itself out all over again, once is bad enough.
Daniel Scharn
Rip my heart
HNnnnnnnnnnnnng
-shibou-
Dansparce Banando rip mario
SHIZAAAAAAAAAAAA
if only this is cannon
7:54 “For us, six days is no more than the blink of an eye.”
*Sorry Kars, but I haven’t seen you or the other pillar men blink once in this entire video*
Kars actually meant that he takes 6 days to blink
@@vbgvbg1133 lol
Like they said.
@@vbgvbg1133 damn that sucks lol
Im now trying to remember if he blinked in the show, i remember him closing his eyes but not blinking
Esidisi: Uh. Kars, we discovered this thing called Pants, you wanna...
Kars: *KOTOWARU*
That’s how ULF works
"stfu I'm kars"
@@Astonnn. ye
Nah loincloth is the new drip
Okay Jotaro, here's the plan:
Step 1: Stop time
Step 2: Crush their skulls and their brains
Step 3: Celebrate
That's assuming he can time stop at this point in time. He doesn't know he can until the end of Stardust Crusaders against DIO.
MetroidJunkie the game actually starts immediately after he kills DIO.
They just gona regenerate. Only hamon\sun can work on them.
stands are soul hamons so they work pretty well against pillar men
MetroidJunkie, he can already stop time, I think he does it after this chapter when they go to Morioh.
Older Joseph being able to stop his younger self from having that notorious argument with Ceasar was really touching to see. It had likely haunted him for his whole life, so being able to make things right probably gave a lot of closure.
*Old Joseph:* "Jojo, come here for a second."
*Joseph:* "Eeeh? What do you want, old man?"
*Old Joseph* "What is it with everyone calling me 'old man'? Anyway, you'll be tempted to peek at Lisa Lisa. Don't."
*Joseph:* "Wait, why-"
*Old Joseph:* "DON'T!"
*Young Joseph:* But don't you want to pinch her naked and tease her about it?
*Old Joseph:* OH MY GOD NO! That's your mother!
John Danes I find it funny after one year you decide to reply
@@coldwooparty Never too late for Jojo. Just ask Josuke's mom.
John Danes MY GOD IM CRYING HAHAHAHAH
Young Joseph: "So you're me, but old? Haha, I'd love to see what Caesar looks as an old gramps!"
Old Joseph: "So do I, young me. So do I."
I feel like old joseph could beat a pillar man in a direct 1v1 battle since they can't see hermit purple
and that joseph can channel the hamon through
Probably a box agreed, unless its ultimate kars
Dante Edgeworth
Only people/stands I could imagine beating ultimate cars without sending him to space would be
Okuyasu - The hand
Vanilla Ice - Cream
Yoshikage Kira - Killer Queen
The guy from the pylon
Cheap Trick
Gold Experience Requiem
Alleyway inbetween Owson and that other store
Probably a box Okuyasu and his brother were looking for a stand user to kill their dad meaning he must have used the hand on him at some point and it didn't kill him, and the dad was morphed by Dios cells and seeing as pillar men are better vampires and ultimate Kars was like the best of that I somehow think he would regenerate it
+Kwolf101 Actually, Okuyasu was too soft-hearted to kill his dad.
Juho Tapojärvi was that said anywhere? Cause I'd imagine he'd try if his brother said so but maybe I'm wrong
4:03
4:48-5:51 You know Joseph has been saving this speech for this exact moment. Like he's been replaying this in his dreams constantly.
Damn, poor guy.
That's what Joseph wanted to say to Ceasar in Switzerland for years, but never got the chance.
He never got the chance to apologise to him, to try to help his friend, instead he found his friend went on a suicide mission without him, just to save his life...
Imagine having to live with that for all those years, it would be torture.
He was the one that emotionaly pushed his friend over the edge, he probably blamed himself partially.
Imagine how many times Joseph must have played this scenario out in his head. Late at night, trying to get to sleep, wondering if he could have saved Caesar if only he’d said something different. He’s been iterating this exact moment out in his mind thousands of times, so of course he’s come up with the perfect thing to say.
That, my dear friends, was how Josuke was made
@Oliva Gina Ceasar was cucked against whamu
Caesar had Wamuu where he wanted him, backed into a corner. The problem is that he got too hasty and gave Wamuu an opening. Don't put yourself in a position where you shade Wamuu and allow him to attack.
This is sad. Btw, is this game canon?
Lisa Lisa : *"Caesar! JoJo! We'll stop them right here!"*
Joseph, Old Joseph and Jotaro : *"Alright!"*
Lila Lisa and Caesar : *"!!!"*
I want every JoJo to have that situation where they are all together and someone says "JOJO!" and they are all like "What" at the same time
TheHDEpics Well, this game had the oppurtunity but didn't make it...
Hyaku Juu hopefully next game, if there is one i mean other than nitpicks is this *actually* an ideal perfect jojo fighting game?
Or even in the manga somehow, imagine that, somehow every JoJo meeting up in the end to probably fight and die or win against some undefeatable thing. and interacting with each other too.
Lisa-Lisa: Let's get going, JoJo.
Joseph, Old Joseph, and Jotaro: Yes, m'am!
Lisa-Lisa: I mean Joseph.
Joseph and Old Joseph: Yes, m'am!
Lisa-Lisa: The young Joseph....
Joseph: Oh, right.
Jotaro’s just in the back thinking: *I can annihilate all 3 of y’all in a 3 v 1 but imma jus stay quiet*
*T POSES*
@@IC-23 Stands are actually knows as "ghostly ripple" ripple being hamon, so in theory stands are actually like ur psychical manifestation of your hamon. Plus even if Jotaro doesnt kill them it will give Joseph, Ceasar and Lisa lisa time to destroy them
@@Wexor. so in theory, that means hol horse has hamon since he has a stand?
@@TheUmdexMan no, stands are just like, the manifestation of your fighting spirit
@@something3012 yea in know that but still imagine hol horse with hamon lol
Now I really want to see Stardust Crusaders era Caesar.
Mandalorehero oddly enough if they'd have maintained their training like LisaLisa: Caesar and Joseph would've maybe looked about 30-35 in part 3. (since LisaLisa looked 20 at 50*)
(*I think it said she was 50)
Caesar would have stuck with it for sure, but I doubt Joseph would have. I just think it would be such a cool scene for an older, more experienced Caesar to face DIO in Cairo to get revenge for his grandfather. Although honestly, thanks to The World, that fight would end in a few seconds.
I'd say more around the time-span of 3-Minutes that translates to 0.1 of a second in universe that's supposed to represent nine seconds instead of the three minutes it turned out to be.
Mandalorehero that fight wouldn't even last a second... ZA WARLDO
Caesar would probably have had a Stand with some kind of minor water control ability, so as to generate BUBBLES.
I like how jotaro's main purpose was to pull out a turtle and say one line about the holy corpse part nearby.
And then beat the shit out of DIO at the end, of course.
Don't forget the Yare Yare Daze
@@jacobboggs71 i know, he just can't catch a break
@@justsam2206 plot platinum is the ultimate stand.
Coco Jumbo best boi
Esidisi: Grow stronger, JoJo!
Joseph, Old Joseph, and Jotaro: I will!
Joseph: Wait, what?
I think in this point of the game, Y Joseph knows who O Joseph is.
4:05 imagine this nightmare playing in your head for 50+ years and then one day finally being able to prevent it.
And then still knowing it has no impact on what happened,,,
@@aions_end actually in game, it was all changed. will zepelli lived, caesar lived, kakyoin lived, avdol lived, iggy lived and jotaro was a present father for joylene. but that’s only in game canon ofc
@@suli0786 well it’s canon for their universes, jotaro and old joesph managed to “fix” their timeline (part 3) then went to each timeline and fixed it, just makes me happy that there’s a timeline where jonathan lived and his descendants lived happily ever after without dealing with dio’s bullshit
@@grief6052 dio is the biggest hater in the whole jjba universe fr
I love how Jotaro and the Pillar Men just stand there, awkwardly as they see the drama
i can imagine the four of them being like "uhhhh... so.... how was you guys's days?"
😏😏😳😳👍🔥
Yare yare daze
Kars trying to snap them out of that like "Yeah lis- uhhhm......you ancest- ...they didn't listen...uhh........(oh they paused) BUT IT'S TOO LATE TO TURN BACK NOW."
Jotaro was just standing there having DIO flashbacks while looking at Caesar's hair.
Caeser: Sensei!
Young Joseph: Lisa Lisa!
Old Joseph: Mom!
Jotaro:....
Young Joseph: What?
Old Joseph: What?
Jotaro: Yare yare daze...
Jotaro : DON'T CARE
@@chair-sama221 Jotaro: Great-grandma!
Jotaro : *starts smoking in the middle of scene*
Lisa Lisa : Can I have one?
Jotaro : Sure.
(I would love to believe Lisa Lisa's demeanor is where Jotaro got his badassery from)
is it just me or the pilar men have extra clothes on them
Wamuu is wearing pants, and I'm not really okay with that.
Dat censorship
why must you hide those juicy tree trucks from us
Lol
This was when Kars was hiding his beauty
The fact that he outsmarts them by doing *the exact same "Lmao Imma Destroy The Aja" gambit* slays me
Good to know the pillar men were polite enough to patiently stand there and let them sort out their arguments before interrupting.
I can totally see Wamuu doing that. Would be a honorable (and, therefore, his) thing to do.
They were invested 😂
@@eeeeeehhhhhhhh Kars: „ACDC get me the popcorn“
Esidisi : should we kill them or -
Kars : no , I want to see how this plays out
Wamuu : I agree
To be fair they were stuck in stone for thousands of years so they were probably enjoying themselves
"If we don't send someone at the safe at scheduled intervals a time bomb will explode the red stone" You forgot that the bomb will rewind time to an hour before.
[Click]
Za warudo can fix this
Kira quenn
@@kiloisnearextra6071 daisan no bakudan
*INSERT "KIRA QUEEN DAISAN BAKUDAN BITES ZA DUSTO"*
Old Joseph didn't outsmart them, he just shifted the argument to become so awkward that the Pillar Men were glad for any excuse to walk away from it as soon as possible.
jotaro just there like "didn't even have to ora ora anything"
Man's just chilling there like "This ain't something I want to nose in."
3:33 Old Joseph: "shut up the Caesar i know is already a salad"
lmao... :'(
Salad Dressing ;_;
MR.Ninja Guy caesar not cesar
_Too Soon_
Pancake*
this shows that joseph did regret what he said to caesar through all those years. i love how he puts both himself and caesar into their place and scolds them for being selfish and irrational.
JOTARO IS A HAMON WARRIOR THATS WHY HE NEVER LOOKED OLD
I feel like the Joestar bloodline inherently can use hamon if they train enough. Like an ability lying dormant. Maybe that's why they always look so young lol
40 is not old.
Joseph is 69 in Part 3.
DarkSteelGamma 67 I believe
Luvin Sama He actually ages backwards.
lisa lisa *suddenly falls*
old joseph *dramatic spin to see if shes alright*
*_spin?!_*
THATS THAT I SAID HAHAHDGDGGGFHDF
yea he doesnt even help her up. like oh shit mom are you ok? nope just hey bitch you good? ok i guess you good.
Joseph and Caesar: *Loud arguing*
Their animations: *Calm hand waving pose*
I like how Joseph had to talk his way through the whole thing even known I'm pretty sure all it would take is Jotaro staring menacingly at everyone to get them to back the hell off.
SuperTiberian Old Joseph would destroy the Pillar Men, since he can infuse his hamon with his stand.
Actually, if I remember right in some of their fight quotes the Pillar Men can actually sense Stand energy, even though they can't see it.
SuperTiberian the Pillar Men never pissed him off. What possible reason could he have to fight them.
@@BoreBone I see a lot of people saying that, and you're right, he can use his stand to conduct hamon, however, Joseph himself admits his hamon is far weaker than when he was at his peak during his exchange with DIO. So, unfortunately, nope, he likely wouldn't be able to kill the Pillar Men anymore.
Mr. Monocle but then again the stands can conduct hamon all it takes is to get close to them get behind jotaro give him hamon that then goes through star platinum.... profit
Old Joseph knew exactly what to say in this argument to stop it in it's tracks.
Which makes sense - he's probably replayed that particular argument in his head a lot in the 50 years between the original argument and now.
Not only am I replying since no one else did, but also holy crap you’ve been on TH-cam for a while.
@@CesarGameBoy. holy u rice he's been here since 2009 before pewdiepie
Omg yeaaaa
@@CesarGameBoy. Jesus Christ I just checked
When this happens we unlock senju musou from kojiro sasaki from ror
I think it's so cool that Old Joseph is still at least slightly intimidated by the pillar men just from his memories of how intense and nearly fatal all of his battles with them were. Araki has some impressive character depth sometimes. I'd argue on the level of Wheel of Time easily.
Joseph Joestar still bluffing his way through everything.
He bluffed Shiza out so he could live another day instead of getting squashed
That's his secret cap. Joseph is a master at bluffing.
Jotaro also bluffs really well. Remember D’Arby the gambler. But yeah Joseph is amazing at it. I also like how he pulled the exact same bluff that Lisa Lisa pulled in the actual anime, with the small explosive.
@@achievedchair17 I do remember. D'Arby the older did outsmart Joseph...
But Joseph got his revenge by hiding how he cheats from the gamer D'Arby.
They felled for it
5:51 old joseph: (thinking: SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZAAAA)
gerard s ??
@@safourgardpa5459 thats how they pronounce caesar in japan
God, I wished Old Joseph would like, hug Cesar or something.
Oh god, same!
Old Joseph: "If something goes wrong, the survivors will be full of deep regrets. And I think you know exactly how that feels."
I think you know how that feels more than anyone else, Joseph (Shiiiiiiiiiizaaaaaaaa)
i still cant get over it that Lisa Lisa was his mother and he had a "sneakpeak" of her
gibbythebest kotwal Niiiice!
***** :3
Niiiice O3O *weeks later* "OH! NOT Niiiice!" >////////////////////
Joseph: Why does my own Mother have to be so damn hot...?
-OH NOOOOO-
I love how Jotaro just stands there menacingly.
I’m pretty sure that Jotaro, Caesar, a weakened Lisa Lisa and young and old Joseph would be more than enough to handle the pillar men.
Mr Lowkey pretty much yeah lol, heck old Joseph alone should be enough with proper planning and hermit purple set up
Mr Lowkey Jotaro alone is too much for the Pillar Men.
kars would solo all of them in his sleep
Kars at this point doesn't have the red stone and as i see it the Pillar men are in disadvantage as this scenario with Old Joseph having a stand and has experience fighting and beating the Pillar men and Jotaro who could stop time and could outclass the Pillar men in speed and strength with Star Platinum and not to mention the Pillar men cannot see stands too
Mr Lowkey Old Joseph and Jotaro can beat each Pillar men 1v1.
Basically: "that's bullshit, but I believe it".
Nice pic. Source?
your not wrong
"Y'see the funny thing is, I know you're playin' me.. but you're right."
I still love how Wamuu doesn't think about JoJo badly. He still views him as an opponent that he will fight and possibly die, unlike Kars and Esidisi.
Whammu wearing pants?!?
What?!
Unacceptable
EVEN SPEEDWAGON IS AFRAID!
M-masaka!!
@ReyaitheShadowWolf So you actually Enjoy seeing's Wamuu's bananna stick out through that thin underwear of his? you sick fuck. But if it's your thing ok, so be it. Be happy Kars is wearing chains and a cloth for you. one wind blow and whoosh there's his Junk. I can never unsee the Pillar men's half naked attires. I'm honestly surprised NO ONE even commented on their Attire.
@YuudiHoshi I want to keep my Eyes and don't want to turn Bi. I'm sorry for your loss tho lol.
To be honest I'd imagine although Kars was talking with the others, his eyes were focused on the young man at the back.
The black coat, the golden chains, and a bizarre hat which blends with his hair.
Gave Kars a look he won't forget, cause it was a menacing one.
You gotta wonder how they'd react to Star Platinum, assuming they can even see him...
The quotes in a fight suggest they can sense a Stand but not outright see it.
"Who is this man? He's just standing there... MENACINGLY!"
Scorpio The Scorpion weeebuuuu weeeeebuuu
I can see it now...
Jotaro: ....
Kars: Hm? A non Hamon warrior? Come! Kars shall be your opponent.
Jotaro: .... *looks at Joseph* Not today. he's your problem not mines.
Kars: “Hoh! So now all Hamon warriors are assembled...”
Jotaro: *laughs in stand*
Someone forgot Old Joseph has Hermit Purple. So he's there too.
@@lxmental Yes, I did!
Jotaro would be smacked by Santana, imagine the 3 pillar men at once
@@lxmental Old Joseph: *laughs in both*
@@gilmsgabriel LoL star finger go brain damage
Entitled fan sheesh
Old Joseph: *Vietnam flashbacks*
More like WW2 in his case
Joseph has really matured since battle tendencies and you can really see it when he talks to the younger version of himself
Caesar's inner monologue : "Bubbles~~~"
Mhhhhhh...
Mhhhhhh...
Mhhhhhh...
Best dialogues ever
*Mhhhhhh intensifies*
9:02 once again, Wammu proves that he's the best pillar man!!
I love how the Pillar Men just stand there in patience as they all battle out the drama
Probably because they find humans amusing
"enough with the bluffing, you old fool"
look who's talking
3:30 imagine if Old Joesph said “Caesar, doing that is exactly what got you killed.”
That would have made sense.
This is one of the few well written scenes in the game.
Meme Machine battle *TENDACY!!!?????*
I disagree,the game had a pretty good scenario overall!
THE RISER yep
Well written but the character animation is absolutely shit
Standing around simulator
I am certain that if Jotaro's adventures had happened in modern times, he'd have spent this whole scene playing on a smartphone.
What else he gonna do?
@@atlas1924 Stand still, VERY uncomfortably, apparently.
I love how Jotaro is just watching all this unfold while everything ignores him
"Shit, so this is what gramps was up to back in the day?"
Couldn't Oldseph just use Hermit Purple and Hamon to kill all 3 of them since the Pillar Men can't see stands
Mario Almanza I don't see why not but i think its mire about disrupting the timeline. He wouldn't become the man he is today (1988) without those experiences
Mario Almanza Much more importantly: Could Oldseph awaken Youngseph's stand ? If so, how much stronger than Star Platinum would it be?
Weren't the stands only awoken around the time that Dio was found
Nickolas Cat Oldseph could kill Enyaba and get the arrow.
nope, It got awoken when Dio got stabbed by Enyaba with the arrow.
lisa lisa's there, both josephs, ceasar and fucking jotaro and the pillar men still act like gods
@Juan Manuel Brac jotaro ts lolz
Joot gets owned 3 on 1.
Pillar Men may not see Star.But who cares?He was overwhelmed by a bunch of knives Dio threw.
Kars slices bullets like it's nothing,Esidis ate a stick of dynamite and Wamuu killed an army of Dio-like vampires.
@@altxogershavelayers5166 funny time stop, but good point, wt bout the corpse part doe? i mean if he uses it
if this scene happened with old joseph and josuke instead
kars: who is the boy with the ugly hair
*josuke beats all the pillar men*
lmao so true
Ayo *Naked Men* I heard that you were talking shit about my *Beautiful Hair* so, I'm afraid to tell you,
*THAT YOU FREE TRIAL OF LIVING HAS EXPIRED*
No, he beats them into humans.
And then merges their bodies with pillars.
@@LordTyph excepg for Kars. He gets merged with a car
this game is pain
no, i'm not saying it's bad, i'm saying that joseph knew that that conversation was gonna end in pancake caesar and intervened the fuck out of himself
who wrote this and why are they playing with our feelings like this
Araki.
Araki didn't write this game
Kien D. Nguyen but he let it happen anyway as he was involved in the game's story overseering it while in its development cycle. its still him by accountability my dude
ZidanReignVG well he could just be like "yeah whatever, I have to work on JoJolion", the game doesn't matter that much to him, it's not part of his canon
Kien D. Nguyen none of that conjecture you just stated faults my statement used as an answer to op.
Op didn't ask whether it was canon or not lmao
Old Joseph's such a good dad.
Even for himself and his best friend.
Caesar: **Dies again**
Old Joseph:
*OH MAYY GADDDD*
*SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
He just has a heart attack
You know, if this lead to Caesar surviving Part 2, I'm guessing Joseph still might have lost his hand anyway somehow.
I still wonder if Perfect Kars still would have happened, though.
Probably. Even if Ceaser had survived, I wouldn't think it would effect the plot THAT greatly. Wamuu's fight ultimately would have been the same, as well as Kars initial victory given that even with JoJo and Ceaser teaming up, things still wouldn't initially be in their favour.
@@classygamer293 but they would've had a third person there to hold onto the gem so kars wouldn't have been able to get that close to it.
Even if the anomalies have already taken effect in that era, older Joseph really didn't care about any space-time disturbing consequences if he wanted to prevent younger Joseph and Caesar going into that traumatic argument again.
Old Joseph constantly looking at young Joseph to back him up is such a great detail
Hope you liked that moment with the Pillar Men, because they never show up again.
samiamtheman 73
(Never seen game before!)
Not even in a fight?
@@BaronB.BlazikenBaronOfBarons This is basically an extra story for Stardust Crusader,the Pillarmen has no business in it 😂😂😂
Mohammad Kurniawan
Honestly, extra stories/fan-made stories are the lifeblood of a fandom. Like, I had a story in my head where all the JoJo villains fight each other in a Battle Royal. And it would have some cool scenarios, like Diavolo’s Time Skip vs. DIO’s Time Stop, and Yoshicaga Kira’s Sheer Heart Attack sent to kill someone, only to immediately go after AC DC.
That's fucking disappointing. Then again, much like Kars' defeat, they had to be written out of the story because they're too powerful, I suppose. If they stayed, they'd wreck all the other characters.
General Greninja ....that second scenario sounds pretty neat actually....
shit im pretty sure he regretted those words so much for the past 50+ years ;-; stopping himself was just part of the redemption ;-;
4:46 the words he wanted to say his whole life.
Those words could have saved his friend he cared for as a brother.
Imagine 50 years, 50 long years how simple just those words could have prevented a lifetime of regret and pain.
The fact he knew exactly what to say to both Caesar and even himself shows just how much he has regretted this argument and has been thinking what to say.
What this game shows is that Joseph really knew how arrogant and selfish he was when he was young, and understood now why Caesar was so bent on revenge. This right here is the best joseph in any version because he got a chance to correct and stop his biggest failure in his life.
8:39 ...though seeing Wamuu again wasn't too bad
karda009 He was the most honourable of the 3
He's the example of "If a good man was on the bad side"
+Klein Hatak3
If Jonathan Joestar was playing for the other team.
He’s a good guy who works for the bad guy
5:02 "but from where I STAND, you're still nothing..."
Joseph has so much trust in himself he just looked at Youngjoseph and already knew
Did he...did he save Caesar?!
Yes
Rock: no
Old Joseph don’t want Caesar to die......
Again!!!!!
If I were Joseph, I’d just be hugging Caesar that whole time crying. At least, that’s what I’d do...♥️♥️♥️
Please tell me Joestar alters the past so caesar lives... Please.
On this game's ending they do.
Pedro Jose Bello Belen good.
stronheim is also alive ?
What's this game called exactly?
Ethan Lang Eyes of Heaven.
can we got a eoh anime that'd be great
Or even a manga
hot pants yeah we do. It's called jojos bizarre adventure
way ment Inagine in part 9, we have new Jojo travel through different dimensions and time.
As long as the ending is changed, I'm fine with it
Pliskin but, but little jolyne in morioh, THE BONDING POTENTIAL, *THE DIFFERENT WAYS MANY FIGHTS COULD HAVE GONE IF JOLYNE WAS THERE WITH OR WITHOUT STONE FREE*
Joseph: You’re weak.
Old Joseph: I’m you.
Wamuu: ...
Esidisi: ...
Kars: ...
Rage: ellipsis.
They are getting inside Polnaref?
Gerardo Leon Read part 5.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Yup, the part 5 cast pretty much silently confirmed that they are getting inside Part 5 Polnareff when they meet Part 3 Polnareff.
to be fair who doesn't want to get inside of good ol' pol
3:17 Basically old Joseph: See where incorrect breathing *GETS YOU-*
I have no idea who Jotaro pulled a turtle out of his pocket... please don't ruin it, i want to find out in time for now it will just be the funniest thing i've seen today
Part 5
I know the context and it's still fucking hilarious XD
@John Smith PORNAREFF???
Old joseph could have just used hermit purple with hamon on kars here. They can't see stands anyway, this way maybe joseph can get his hand back
they can. Nukusaku from Part 3 proves that vampires can naturally see and damage stands with their physical attacks, when he's able to see, attack, and even damage (slightly) Star Platinum.
He is explicitly stated to only be a vampire and does not possess a stand.
ZanathKariashi nukesaku face thing was his stand.
Nukesaku is explicitly stated in and out of manga/anime to have no stand.
The extra face is due to his vampire abilities.
ZanathKariashi May be. He was stated to only be a zombie though, not a vampire.
he's officially a vampire. He's only a zombie in Jorge Joestar.
9:26
Lisa Lisa: Im not feeling well :(
Everyone else: are you ok lisa lisa?
Jotaro in the background: *cricket sounds*
young Joseph really does sound like anime Josuke damn. that's neat as fuck
Same VA
Hahahaha is
XD
I never played this game and just started stardust crusaders but i love how Jotaro is just standing in the back while Old Joseph changes his own history...even if these events are a bit out of order