There's an excellent video somewhere on TH-cam where someone breaks down in musical terms why Mitsuda-san's work in Chrono Trigger was so compelling. I believe the author was "8 Bit Music Theory" and the video is titled "Non-functional harmony in Chrono Trigger".
If you get choked up, this is comming from a guy with the ost on a loop(usally) in the car, you need to seek psychological help. Its a video game not the birth of your child.
@@magustrigger9195 Thanks, but if I wanted a more valid opinion, I'd ask an evangelical Christian about evolutionary biology... You listen to a videogame OST on loop in your car. Nobody's coming to you for psychological pointers. I don't know what kind of wannabe alpha bullshit you're on right now, but that was a stupid statement. Music stirs up this thing in humans we call emotions, and healthy humans can experience these emotions in cathartic ways. If you think there's something mentally unwell about that, I suggest you get psychologically evaluated and treated before you ever make the error of having children and passing on your emotional trauma.
I'm pretty sure The Entity is the planet. The same force that the Reptites worshipped and became synergistic with. You get this info from Chrono Cross when Dinopolis emerges. Dinopolis is the ultimate structure created by the Reptites (the counter of Chronopolis), in a dimension they survived in and became the dominant species. They were synergistic with the planet, whereas Humans were synergistic with Lavos' power (hence the unnatural evolution of the Human species and Zeal). The Entity is the anti-Lavos, the power of the natural world; the planet protecting itself from Lavos. And yes, Ayla is absolutely named after the main cavegirl (played by Daryl Hannah in the movie) in Clan of the Cave Bear.
That’s a very good point the connection and the difference between the reptiles and the humans in alignment with the planet and Lavos, respectively, very interesting analysis indeed
Marle casting Fire Magic on the box-art is correct. If you use the Triple Tech - Arc Impulse, you will see Marle casting Ice Magic which is SO COLD that it creates fire in Crono's sword. Then, look at Glenn (Frog) on the box-art...what's he doing? He's crouched down and ready to attack. And, what happens when you use Arc Impulse? Glenn crouches down, let's Crono jump off of his shoulders, and then does a mad Dash and Slash on the enemy, as Crono comes down with his flaming Ice Sword. That's all the box-art is, a sneak-preview of what you can learn and what you can do.
Cross has so many deep connections to Trigger that is mindblowing, and the bad part of it is that is all dumped on you in the final hours of the game, so it's a lot to process, but if you take your time to comprehend everything, it's one of the most precise and beautifullly written stories out there, and that is coming from a time travel plot which can have a plethora of plotholes but not in the case of this series. Everything is actually super coherent but sadly it's underapreciated by the way that it is told.
I would argue that this illustrates Chrono Cross' true weakness. The details of the plot, and whether they are internally consistent, are not the heart of a story. They are merely a fictional history. Much like real history, it bears no real value until it is contextualized by the emotions and values of the people who pass it down. Chrono Cross' plot is supposed to serve as a vehicle for conveying the real significance: that of its essential impact on the characters and the player. If the game failed to convey that impact, the internal consistency is wasted. Do all of you think Chrono Cross was successful in that regard? I'll leave it to you to judge for yourselves. If you care what I think, well, I believe CC had some small successes, but it had too many jumbled feelings which were never fully formed, detracting from its value as something to revisit.
I sure never saw it so that's why I think Chrono Cross is an abomination to have "Chrono" in the title. It's absurd to call it a sequel. One of the biggest let downs after playing that game.
@@Radien I agree to an extent that the main plot can be one of its weakness, but that is considering the game having a single simple plot which is not the case. While the main plot is a separate branch from Trigger, Cross has multiple histories in itself and I think that's where the game shines the most, it can be its own game without depending on his predecessor. Each character that you get has its own backstory, some are really simple but others can have really epic and/or emotional conclusions, like the masamune conclusion or the sidequest of the demi-hunans, the war of the fairies and gnomes, etc, and that's just the side characters, the ones that you have to get to progress get even more development. So even if the great majority of the characters doesn't even add to the main plot at all, they have their own charm and they make the world of Cross feel connected and alive, and the game leaves you to get to know them better if you want or not, just like the main plot, you can blaze though everything and reach the end with the bare minimum that it gives you or you can go search the rest of the plot. It's there, the game gives just you the option to go look for more details. So yeah, while I agree that the game doesn't deliver it's history in the best of ways, but once I understood what it wants to tell it's one of the best and beautiful histories told in a game (or in two games if being specific) in a while that connects not just both games, but it even tries to have a crack in the fourth wall connecting us the player in the real world as well in a way, that is my interpretation at least.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I won't deny that it can feel that way on the first playthroughs, even I didn't like it my first time either, but it gave it another shot after sometime and found the connections and that made it so much better, so give it a second try later, who knows if you change your mind too.
The JP name of Mastermune is Grand Dream because "Masamune" was just Woolsey taking liberties with the translation. In Japanese the sword (and brothers) is called Grandleon. Hence it becomes the Grand Dream when Doreen joins her siblings. I didn't know there was controversy over the Entity. I always assumed it was the planet considering the characters themselves bring up your life flashing before your eyes before death, Lavos is a planetary parasite, and Robo gives you the Green Dream accessory. Queen Zeal also mentions she no longer needs the energy of "this tired old planet," and the cutscene that discusses the Entity is only possible if you plant the seed that Zeal instructed that one NPC to destroy. It's nice to see it confirmed though.
And, for me at least, during the ending credits we get a shoot of the whole Earth. I thought that was signifying the Earth played a role in helping crono and his team.
I never found any in game dialogue that suggested that the Crono you pull from the Time Freeze isn't the same Crono that started the game. It is literally a moment in time before Crono is killed by Lavos and he is exchanged for the clone from Millennium fair.
I agree, the Crono that is rescued is the same, he literally has missed none of his life and has all of his life experiences. It's a pretty different situation, than, say, Loki or Gamora.
Yeah where are they getting that from?? It's not like they found a way to give crono's life over to the clone doll - they exchanged Crono with the doll, literally grabbing the actual Crono and putting the doll there just so that their past selves would still go ahead to do the same thing when they believe they see Crono die.
I'll add a little info since it was not mentioned in the video, There is a NEW hidden ending in the Radical Dreamers edition of Chrono Cross that I can confirm. Once you have beaten Radical Dreamers and Chrono Cross, Watch the Credits option from the Title menu all the way thru to get the new Hidden Ending. It is only a text based ending, however it could be considered closure and significant to certain events
There's a hill I'm willing to die on, and it's this: Crono never dies. Even if you don't save him during your playthrough, Lucca and Marle do after the game is over. No matter the timeline, Crono is always replaced with the doll before he actually dies
Personally I think people that want a "infinite parallel universes" time travel system are unintentionally discrediting everything the protagonists are doing. They did save "their" Crono.
Came to the comments to see if anyone else commented about this, haha. Cyrus, Another Eden's katana-wielding frog, actually makes a comment during the story about his cousin, another sword-wielding frog, named Glenn. The storywriter for Another Eden was also Trigger's storywriter. Easter egg, or canon? The world will never know.
@@densetsuno6487 its part of their mischievous nature to keep fans guessing to keep interest going. dont think theyll ever admit to anything since they can just change their minds on a whim
This has got to be the most well produced and well researched iceberg I've seen not only on this game series but Im general! Really happy that this came out as I started playing crono cross for the first time. Keep up the hard work my friend
@@Maker1 But you forgot one BIG deepest point of the iceberg. The developers knew damn well what they were doing when they named their main female protagonist "Kid". Take that, coomers!
I love the inclusion of the music that sampled tunes from chrono trigger . As a fan of this game when Dom and Wiz dropped their songs I was extremely happy and told all my friends😂
Yeah I was in high school when that Wiz song came out. I was a fan of rap at the time and Wiz was pretty popular in 2010. It was pretty cool figuring out Schala's theme was sampled.
Considering you addressed that the future timeline had decedents of Chrono, I think that would be pretty good evidence of how important he is to the timeline.
Chrono Cross doesn't take place in a different world, it takes place in the same world as Trigger, just off the continent of Zenan. Besides Zenan and the El Nido Archipelago, it's implied that there's other countries and places too.
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The future has a landmark called Death Peak which none of the other time periods seems to have. Lavos' children appear here (and nowhere else) which I think implies the mountain is Lavos itself, either dead or hibernating.
I've always considered Cross to be a side-quel to Trigger, possibly a sequel to one of the alternate realities Trigger fixed during the story. I'd always hoped that there would be another Chrono game, this one having Serge brought in to the main Trigger timeline because something Chrono and pals, or perhaps the antagonist did erased Serge from their own timeline, and the two groups have to undo time shenanigans caused by Dalton or King Zeal to get back to the optimal timeline. So you'd have time and dimension hopping in the next entry.
@@DevicCypherI'm sorry but it absolutely doesn't. The story is poor compared to Chrono Trigger. The characters, a huge part of the game, are shallow and weak compared to Trigger. Quantity vs quality.
Small correction, when you fight the final form of lavos all you have to kill is the right core for the fight to end. You can have both the left and center enemy left on screen not just the left piece it just depends on the right core and when it turns its defense back on. You also can defeat all three and have nothing left in the white out.
I do believe that what's shown in the video is just a visual glitch; it doesn't always appear like that as I only remember viewing it a handful of all the times I finished the game
Great video! Yeah, I did notice some weird glitches on your past deep dive videos, I was wondering what was going on. Thanks for this update! I'm playing Chrono Trigger right now then plan to beat the remaster
But there are multiple Nu, and the Nu are a species that were in development on earth along side the Humans and Reptites. but the Nu kept themselves hidden. And I got that from other deep lore dives and the game itself.
I never did dig too deep into Chrono Trigger, but I hope to circle back around to it someday. I skipped Chrono Cross completely, the ascetic just didn't hit me when it came out. But the OST in Chrono Trigger, despite not submerging myself into the game, I've grown pretty fond of.
Wow truly a wonderful collection of ideas revolving around two of the best games in living memory. I'm very grateful that you took the time and effort to cover these games and it brings back so many awesome memories. My only wish in all of this is to be able to go back in time and experience them all over again and feel the impact once more.
guess TH-cam algorithm spying on me and heard that i'm excited on the chrono cross remaster and suggested this. Oh boy and i'm not even disappointed. Thank you for your hard work on this!
m surprised that nobody mentioned the connections between FFVII and Chrono Trigger First being the Jenova/Lavos connection theory. That being Jenova from FFVII is of the same species as Lavos in Chrono Trigger as they are both alien beings who arrived to the planet via an asteroid in the past to consume it in the future. The FVII remake seems to make the connections more apparent with Jenova Dreamweaver being similar to the Dream Devourer and the fact that a form of time travel has now been incorporated into the story. Regarding remakes, we also have a remake for Chrono Cross in development. To add to this connection, FFVII and Chrono Trigger were also in development at the same time. Because FFVII originally started development as an SNES title right after FFVI. Unfortunately, all that apparently remains of the SNES version of FFVII is a single screenshot because development on FFVII was halted to complete.... Chrono Trigger. This inevitably resulted in some of the original concepts for FFVII being used in Chrono Trigger and vice versa. Spikey haired protagonists aside, the Jetbike music in Chrono trigger is the same as the played in the motorbike chase in FFVII. Just a slightly different tempo. When it was time resume development for FFVII, the next console generation had begun. So the development for FFVII was restarted from scratch. Thus it is funny to think that FFVII would have turned out very different if not for Chrono Trigger. And that Chrono Trigger would have also turned out very different as the FFVII devs were part of the "dream team". I suppose that could be a video topic in of itself.
In regards to CT, you could fight Lavos at the beginning of a new game if you go to the right pad of Luccas invention instead of the left before Marle does. It's only available for the small time, and doesn't show again until new game+.
New theory: Lavos has porcupine spikes. Lavos is just an anagram for Salvo, which means he is the first round of many to come, shot through space from giant Sonic space d***, neatly connecting sonics universe with this one
I never played Chrono Cross, but it’s sad to know that Magus, perhaps the greatest RPG character ever (in my opinion) was left out 😕 I always thought it was so cool that you see this powerful enemy throughout the whole game and then you arrive at a crossroads…fight & kill him, or have him join your team. I ALWAYS chose to allow him to join! 🤞🏽 Hopefully we get a 3rd installment with everyone making a playable appearance!
Guile in Chrono Cross was originally going to be explored as Magus but it seemed they added too many characters to the game, causing the idea to be scrapped. What's worse is how the Chrono series basically just ends on a cliffhanger ever since Chrono Break - originally said to be the third installment - got cancelled after most of its development team had to leave early to go work on Final Fantasy 11 or in favor of freelance work.
The last part of Cross is possibly influenced by Crisis on Infinite Earths. Go back to the dawn of the cosmos, rewrite reality so the big bad cannot exist, collapse the multiverse into one reality, accidentally unmake some of the heroes in the process. (Poor Helena Wayne...) These days are so uncertain. You never know who is going to live and who's going to die.
I just started Chrono Cross this week, and I was thinking about how Schala may have been the true villain for this game given how the events of CT got destroyed just for Schala to be saved. From what I saw on the CT DS ending after defeating the Dream Devour, in regards to apparently refusing to let her brother or the party rescue her pretty much proves she's as selfish as her mother and probably wanted to be rid of taking care of her brother. To be honest, thinking about this has changed my view of Schala completely. For now, I'll focus on playing CC for now, but your video is great!
... yeah, the CT DS ending with the Dream Devourer is setup as a link between CT and CC, particularly because CC explains *why* defeating the Dream Devourer in CT won't let you rescue Schala. There's also the factor of what happens at the end of CC- I won't spoil but for all that there's a lot of comments about how the events of CT got destroyed in the CC timeline... uh yeah play the game to its conclusion because that actually gets addressed. But to get there, Schala's despair at the fall of Zeal and the hubris of mankind was definitely a factor.
Just pretend that Chrono Cross and the GBA remake with the new scenes never existed. You'll be happier. It's the better choice. I'm 37 and I remember when Chrono Cross came out, it's a stupid ass game.
Wow I'm so thrilled i wasn't the only person who played these games thought of these characters as their counterparts in DBZ. i would always name my Crono = Gohan, Lucca = Bulma, Marle = Videl, and Frog = Picolo ( as best as i could fit lol).
@@Darkmoon75 yes I can agree about that too. Plus Schala is looking rather…. Ahem. Seductive here. Not that I’m complaining but that will catch folks off guard.
It still pisses me off that Nobuo Uematsu got a unique sprite and was one of the 5 people in the special room of the developer ending, when he didn't compose the majority of the music.
I think if anything the undertone in the Ayla and Lucca exchange is not meant to be sexual but rather Lucca misunderstanding and taking it the wrong way.
Do a video on Another Eden. I double dog dare you! Seriously, there are so many references to the Chrono games, from plot elements to time travel mechanics, that I believe it truly deserves to be called the successor of Chrono Trigger. It heavily expands on concepts and plot elements introduced in the Chrono games while still being original. It is like Xenosaga vs. Xenogears but way more entertaining to actually play (don't get me wrong, I have played the Saga Trilogy 3 times lol). Heck, it even has a crossover with Chrono Cross where you get to play alongside Serge, Kid, and Harle. You can meet "Gaspar" at the end of time, craft the rainbow weapons, walk around "Spekio's Room" 3 times and fight an optional Dragon God boss. I love Another Eden.
Btw in Another Eden's crossover with Chrono Cross we get some huge fan-service with Cyrus (in frog form) meets with Cross Glenn (in human form) showing a great inverted situation to the game where Glenn was the Frog and Cyrus the human.
BEST RPG EVER!!! It's a shame we won't have a sequel of Chrono Trigger made by the dream team (Akira Toriyama, Nobuo Uematsu, Yuji Horii and Hironobu Sakaguchi), i feel so sad for this.
The reason Marle is using a fire spell in the box art is because of the scrapped magic system the game had in beta, where you could switch the magic the characters use.
Alcohol in general isn’t that big a deal it’s just generalized overthink usually in the western half of the world. Apparently people in charge lack the understanding of the phrase context matters.
I can't imagine how different my life would've been had I not picked up Chrono Trigger off a shelf in Hastings, a completely random and arbitrary decision at the time. I didn't read about it in a Nintendo Power or GamePro beforehand. I didn't have any TH-camr reviews telling me it was good/bad... just a box with some pictures and inside that box... a masterpiece.
Chrono 3 - After Chrono Cross, the split timelines have been merged. Set about a year after Cross, there is a sort of GoT situation in 1025 AD, wherein Medina, Guardia, Porre, El Nido, Choras, and Magus' Mystic Empire vie for power. Kid, now fully aware of her the identity of the reborn Schala, finds Serge and Magus (giving him back his memories and confirming he IS Magus after the DS ending. Eventually, Cross and Trigger characters untite to strike back against Dalton's Porre. AS this video points out, Pack a refuses to die. Lavos is actually the Yang to the Yin of existence. He is the embodiment of oblivion; time, space, and existence are an afront to him. Next, the new untied roster meets Starky who reveals he was here researching "one of the few species to resist a full-grown Lavos successfully." From there, new characters are revealed, recruited by helping to defeat the adolescent Lavos Spawn, uniquely evolved to be the apex parasite of its just planet. With characters from Trigger, Cross, and new ones from each of these times and/or planets, you seem out and eliminate the "Queen" of the Lavos." Finally, the group links up with Schala and Magus in a multistage Boss Fight (a la FF6) to defeat...the personification of oblivion and nonexistence across the multiverse...Lavos Mortaas. I'm the end, the scourge of space-time are eradicated and whole worlds and epochs have united against a shared existential threat. In a post credits scene, Toma the Explorer unxibwiwrs an ancient text saying this is a cyclical battle between order and chaos; death and life; darkness and light; creation and oblivion. Spiked to play out forever like the cycles of Death and Rebirth. Final visual somehow leads into... Final Fantasy 1. Thus...each Final Fantasy branches off from the third Chrono game outlines above as they all seal with an apocalypse--either to be prevented, repeated, or recovered form.
CT is the best game ever. Innovative , tight and polished design. Best RPG Main Story, SideQuests and Endgame. New Game + was born because of such a perfect balance of genius design and story. Toriyama made this possible with his genius character, machine, locations and monster design. Imagine a different aesthetic for CT... like CC lol. Then, we have Mitsuda. CT's OST is a masterpiece and a mystery. Always the perfect ambiance, energy and emotions for each part of the game. Sakaguchi is cool too, very cool, but the other two are geniuses, having given CT its life in Visuals and Sounds.
Magus is called Maoh- Evil King -in japanese ,the same title as King Piccolo (Piccolo Daimaoh). His final look is a mix of Vegeta and Piccolo but the first design sketch was different: he looked like Dark Schneider from Bastard.
I implore you to seek a comparison between Lavos and the Jail from Mary Skelter Nightmares... those have a lot in common, and, in a surprising way, are much alike but so very different
I was the one who brought up the tie-in to Clan of the Cave Bear and even mentioned Dalton caused the fall of Guardia, and was banned from the Chronoimporium because of it. Lucca took the comment wrong compared to Marle with Ayla. I do hate how you prounce Schala. You don't pronounce school as "shoe ool". It's also "Mah Suh Moon A" for Masamune Cross does take place in the same world. The world was altered because of Trigger. The Frozen Flame is even a Lavos scale.
I also think Kronos and Miguel are the same person, like the whole right hand left hand thing. He probably decided to use his right hand just to be ambidextrous in both hands so you can fight better. And remember he defeated Lavos meaning when invasion from Porrus Chrono survived, but Marle didn’t survive, and I think he probably slaughtered most of the army, and escaped with his daughter Leena, and after that tragedy, he changed his name and probably got remarried and had more kids. Also, Chrono properly, holding back, he’s not gonna go all on out on a kid. He’s mostly testing him to see how strong he is.
Ted Woolsey has nothing to do with the name Grandleon. Grandleon (and Grand and Leon) is the Japanese name for the Masamune (and Masa and Mune). Woolsey picked the name of a medieval Japanese swordsmith, no idea why.
Corridors of The Twilight Zone: This hit me like a ton of bricks while watching the section on music. The most iconic piece of music in the series, Corridors of Time, is based on The Twilight Zone theme.
I like the inclusion of Woolsey on the dream team. I think it is VERY important for western audiences to remember that translators have a Huge impact on a game's initial interpretation by the public. It can be a benefit OR a handicap (in the case of those awful Nintendo treehouse translations of Fire Emblem years ago).
This is an amazing deep dive into Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, and even Xeno Gears. Extremely impressive analysis, and I agree with pretty much a lot of the theories and Easter eggs on this game, I think it’s more than a game, It’s a masterpiece storyline of life, changing history, and the will to live life to the fullest. 😎
Cross exists in the world created by Chrono's team, it isn't really another dimension it is simply what would have occurred if lavos was defeated in 1999 in 10** due to the effects of Chronopolis accidentally falling into the past and pulling the Dragon counter part into their world. seriously that world has become shredded cheese due to so many paradoxes... especially considering that the 1000 era characters all die sooner because of it but chronopolis was built based on their understanding of time and Guardia funding it....
I wish I had a time controller,I'd rewind time to when I first played this game and I'm pretty sure I'd just put time on loop but then again,it'd re open the Chronotrigger64 wound
Great video! I remember playing Chrono Resurrection way back in the day and thought it was so cool. It would have been so neat to see the entire game rendered in that style.
Wow, I got my details mixed up with Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross composition. I had no idea Mitsuda composed most of the music. In my opinion, Trigger is Mitsuda's best work I am surprised you would mess up Schala out of all names. One of the most memorable names I came across in video games. And a lot of the segments are poorly explained, especially with their complicated names, and Alpha Lynx being the worst.
I love games that do 1, offer a wide variety of recruitable characters. 2, offer a wide variety of endings. I loved all the endings in Nier Automata. Really loved the characters in Radiata Stories. Can't imagine either of these games existing without the originals like Chrono.
The worst day of my life was playing Chrono Trigger on the DS when I obtained Frog as a party member. They had the nerve to get rid of his Shakespearian tone. I pray that if this game gets remade in HD-2D Frog's original dialog comes back.
Exactly the video I’ve needed!
Dad knows best!
@@Maker1 😉
His body I infinite and always bringing it.
Oh, dang! Dad! It's been a while on my end!
Just like in real life!
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I cannot hear chrono trigger OST without getting a bit choked up. It's so pure and reminds me of better days.
There's an excellent video somewhere on TH-cam where someone breaks down in musical terms why Mitsuda-san's work in Chrono Trigger was so compelling. I believe the author was "8 Bit Music Theory" and the video is titled "Non-functional harmony in Chrono Trigger".
If you get choked up, this is comming from a guy with the ost on a loop(usally) in the car, you need to seek psychological help. Its a video game not the birth of your child.
@@magustrigger9195 Thanks, but if I wanted a more valid opinion, I'd ask an evangelical Christian about evolutionary biology...
You listen to a videogame OST on loop in your car. Nobody's coming to you for psychological pointers. I don't know what kind of wannabe alpha bullshit you're on right now, but that was a stupid statement.
Music stirs up this thing in humans we call emotions, and healthy humans can experience these emotions in cathartic ways. If you think there's something mentally unwell about that, I suggest you get psychologically evaluated and treated before you ever make the error of having children and passing on your emotional trauma.
I love Trigger's music, but Cross is the one that does it for me. Dream of a Shore Bordering Another World and Time's Scar.
Me too, friend.
My man's just called Schala 'Sasha'
he keeps switching back and forth between Sasha and Schala lmao
I'm so happy Chrono Cross got the remaster it did.
The ending theme of Chrono Trigger, to this day, still makes me want to cry some.
I tear up at To Faraway Times every time..
They could have fixed Pip but didn’t. So kind of upset about them being lazy.
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I'm pretty sure The Entity is the planet. The same force that the Reptites worshipped and became synergistic with. You get this info from Chrono Cross when Dinopolis emerges. Dinopolis is the ultimate structure created by the Reptites (the counter of Chronopolis), in a dimension they survived in and became the dominant species. They were synergistic with the planet, whereas Humans were synergistic with Lavos' power (hence the unnatural evolution of the Human species and Zeal). The Entity is the anti-Lavos, the power of the natural world; the planet protecting itself from Lavos. And yes, Ayla is absolutely named after the main cavegirl (played by Daryl Hannah in the movie) in Clan of the Cave Bear.
Azala could be seen as the game's hero in some ways
That’s a very good point the connection and the difference between the reptiles and the humans in alignment with the planet and Lavos, respectively, very interesting analysis indeed
Marle casting Fire Magic on the box-art is correct. If you use the Triple Tech - Arc Impulse, you will see Marle casting Ice Magic which is SO COLD that it creates fire in Crono's sword. Then, look at Glenn (Frog) on the box-art...what's he doing? He's crouched down and ready to attack. And, what happens when you use Arc Impulse? Glenn crouches down, let's Crono jump off of his shoulders, and then does a mad Dash and Slash on the enemy, as Crono comes down with his flaming Ice Sword. That's all the box-art is, a sneak-preview of what you can learn and what you can do.
I've loved this series since it came out in the 90's. And you clearly knew what you were doing with that thumbnail.
Cross has so many deep connections to Trigger that is mindblowing, and the bad part of it is that is all dumped on you in the final hours of the game, so it's a lot to process, but if you take your time to comprehend everything, it's one of the most precise and beautifullly written stories out there, and that is coming from a time travel plot which can have a plethora of plotholes but not in the case of this series. Everything is actually super coherent but sadly it's underapreciated by the way that it is told.
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I would argue that this illustrates Chrono Cross' true weakness.
The details of the plot, and whether they are internally consistent, are not the heart of a story. They are merely a fictional history. Much like real history, it bears no real value until it is contextualized by the emotions and values of the people who pass it down.
Chrono Cross' plot is supposed to serve as a vehicle for conveying the real significance: that of its essential impact on the characters and the player. If the game failed to convey that impact, the internal consistency is wasted.
Do all of you think Chrono Cross was successful in that regard? I'll leave it to you to judge for yourselves. If you care what I think, well, I believe CC had some small successes, but it had too many jumbled feelings which were never fully formed, detracting from its value as something to revisit.
I sure never saw it so that's why I think Chrono Cross is an abomination to have "Chrono" in the title. It's absurd to call it a sequel. One of the biggest let downs after playing that game.
@@Radien I agree to an extent that the main plot can be one of its weakness, but that is considering the game having a single simple plot which is not the case.
While the main plot is a separate branch from Trigger, Cross has multiple histories in itself and I think that's where the game shines the most, it can be its own game without depending on his predecessor. Each character that you get has its own backstory, some are really simple but others can have really epic and/or emotional conclusions, like the masamune conclusion or the sidequest of the demi-hunans, the war of the fairies and gnomes, etc, and that's just the side characters, the ones that you have to get to progress get even more development. So even if the great majority of the characters doesn't even add to the main plot at all, they have their own charm and they make the world of Cross feel connected and alive, and the game leaves you to get to know them better if you want or not, just like the main plot, you can blaze though everything and reach the end with the bare minimum that it gives you or you can go search the rest of the plot. It's there, the game gives just you the option to go look for more details.
So yeah, while I agree that the game doesn't deliver it's history in the best of ways, but once I understood what it wants to tell it's one of the best and beautiful histories told in a game (or in two games if being specific) in a while that connects not just both games, but it even tries to have a crack in the fourth wall connecting us the player in the real world as well in a way, that is my interpretation at least.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I won't deny that it can feel that way on the first playthroughs, even I didn't like it my first time either, but it gave it another shot after sometime and found the connections and that made it so much better, so give it a second try later, who knows if you change your mind too.
The JP name of Mastermune is Grand Dream because "Masamune" was just Woolsey taking liberties with the translation. In Japanese the sword (and brothers) is called Grandleon. Hence it becomes the Grand Dream when Doreen joins her siblings.
I didn't know there was controversy over the Entity. I always assumed it was the planet considering the characters themselves bring up your life flashing before your eyes before death, Lavos is a planetary parasite, and Robo gives you the Green Dream accessory. Queen Zeal also mentions she no longer needs the energy of "this tired old planet," and the cutscene that discusses the Entity is only possible if you plant the seed that Zeal instructed that one NPC to destroy. It's nice to see it confirmed though.
That fits with it being originally related to Secret of Mana as well, that game had very similar themes.
And, for me at least, during the ending credits we get a shoot of the whole Earth. I thought that was signifying the Earth played a role in helping crono and his team.
I see. I wondered why a western sword is called "Masamune". A weird choice indeed.
I never found any in game dialogue that suggested that the Crono you pull from the Time Freeze isn't the same Crono that started the game. It is literally a moment in time before Crono is killed by Lavos and he is exchanged for the clone from Millennium fair.
I agree, the Crono that is rescued is the same, he literally has missed none of his life and has all of his life experiences. It's a pretty different situation, than, say, Loki or Gamora.
Yeah where are they getting that from?? It's not like they found a way to give crono's life over to the clone doll - they exchanged Crono with the doll, literally grabbing the actual Crono and putting the doll there just so that their past selves would still go ahead to do the same thing when they believe they see Crono die.
I'll add a little info since it was not mentioned in the video, There is a NEW hidden ending in the Radical Dreamers edition of Chrono Cross that I can confirm. Once you have beaten Radical Dreamers and Chrono Cross, Watch the Credits option from the Title menu all the way thru to get the new Hidden Ending. It is only a text based ending, however it could be considered closure and significant to certain events
There's a hill I'm willing to die on, and it's this:
Crono never dies.
Even if you don't save him during your playthrough, Lucca and Marle do after the game is over. No matter the timeline, Crono is always replaced with the doll before he actually dies
Personally I think people that want a "infinite parallel universes" time travel system are unintentionally discrediting everything the protagonists are doing. They did save "their" Crono.
"Crono's Cat is the entity" is funny when you consider that's how it is in the spiritual successor, Another Eden
Came to the comments to see if anyone else commented about this, haha. Cyrus, Another Eden's katana-wielding frog, actually makes a comment during the story about his cousin, another sword-wielding frog, named Glenn. The storywriter for Another Eden was also Trigger's storywriter. Easter egg, or canon? The world will never know.
@@densetsuno6487 its part of their mischievous nature to keep fans guessing to keep interest going. dont think theyll ever admit to anything since they can just change their minds on a whim
This has got to be the most well produced and well researched iceberg I've seen not only on this game series but Im general! Really happy that this came out as I started playing crono cross for the first time. Keep up the hard work my friend
Thanks so very much. Cheers friend.
@@Maker1 would you mind telling me what software you use to edit your videos and what hardware you use to record that golden voice of yours?
@@Maker1 But you forgot one BIG deepest point of the iceberg. The developers knew damn well what they were doing when they named their main female protagonist "Kid". Take that, coomers!
I love the inclusion of the music that sampled tunes from chrono trigger . As a fan of this game when Dom and Wiz dropped their songs I was extremely happy and told all my friends😂
Yeah I was in high school when that Wiz song came out. I was a fan of rap at the time and Wiz was pretty popular in 2010. It was pretty cool figuring out Schala's theme was sampled.
Considering you addressed that the future timeline had decedents of Chrono, I think that would be pretty good evidence of how important he is to the timeline.
Ngl that thumbnail is what got me
Chrono Cross doesn't take place in a different world, it takes place in the same world as Trigger, just off the continent of Zenan. Besides Zenan and the El Nido Archipelago, it's implied that there's other countries and places too.
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The future has a landmark called Death Peak which none of the other time periods seems to have. Lavos' children appear here (and nowhere else) which I think implies the mountain is Lavos itself, either dead or hibernating.
Thanks mate, I commented on your Chrono video that had the jumpcut that skipped a segment or two, glad to see such an improvement on this video
I've always considered Cross to be a side-quel to Trigger, possibly a sequel to one of the alternate realities Trigger fixed during the story. I'd always hoped that there would be another Chrono game, this one having Serge brought in to the main Trigger timeline because something Chrono and pals, or perhaps the antagonist did erased Serge from their own timeline, and the two groups have to undo time shenanigans caused by Dalton or King Zeal to get back to the optimal timeline. So you'd have time and dimension hopping in the next entry.
They already stated that cross isn’t a direct sequel to trigger. Cross has the better story though hands down.
@@DevicCypherI'm sorry but it absolutely doesn't. The story is poor compared to Chrono Trigger. The characters, a huge part of the game, are shallow and weak compared to Trigger. Quantity vs quality.
@@wasteddude false. You need to actually pay attention when you play it
@@DevicCypher i did and it's not as a good as the CT. Let me use your logic. You need to actually pay attention to CT when you play it.
15;07-that would be "schala", not sasha
Yeah Idk why he calls her Sasha
So glad you made a Chrono trigger iceberg. I’ve been waiting for another one and you made it !
Small correction, when you fight the final form of lavos all you have to kill is the right core for the fight to end. You can have both the left and center enemy left on screen not just the left piece it just depends on the right core and when it turns its defense back on. You also can defeat all three and have nothing left in the white out.
I do believe that what's shown in the video is just a visual glitch; it doesn't always appear like that as I only remember viewing it a handful of all the times I finished the game
Great video! Yeah, I did notice some weird glitches on your past deep dive videos, I was wondering what was going on. Thanks for this update! I'm playing Chrono Trigger right now then plan to beat the remaster
These are always enjoyable to watch, and then spend three hours diving down a rabbit hole in personal thought and online searches lol. Good stuff bud
Thanks!
Wasn't there also a theory that the Entity was actually Nu, since it's the only character that appears in every era, from Prehistoric to the Future?
"Everything begins and ends with Nu"-Nu
But there are multiple Nu, and the Nu are a species that were in development on earth along side the Humans and Reptites. but the Nu kept themselves hidden. And I got that from other deep lore dives and the game itself.
I never did dig too deep into Chrono Trigger, but I hope to circle back around to it someday. I skipped Chrono Cross completely, the ascetic just didn't hit me when it came out.
But the OST in Chrono Trigger, despite not submerging myself into the game, I've grown pretty fond of.
Wow truly a wonderful collection of ideas revolving around two of the best games in living memory. I'm very grateful that you took the time and effort to cover these games and it brings back so many awesome memories. My only wish in all of this is to be able to go back in time and experience them all over again and feel the impact once more.
guess TH-cam algorithm spying on me and heard that i'm excited on the chrono cross remaster and suggested this. Oh boy and i'm not even disappointed. Thank you for your hard work on this!
Awesome, I'm glad you stumbled upon it! And thanks very much!
Pretty sure Xenogears and Chrono's similarities come from the fact they both started life as pitches for FF7.
I do greatly appreciate your energy and personality in this video!
m surprised that nobody mentioned the connections between FFVII and Chrono Trigger First being the Jenova/Lavos connection theory. That being Jenova from FFVII is of the same species as Lavos in Chrono Trigger as they are both alien beings who arrived to the planet via an asteroid in the past to consume it in the future. The FVII remake seems to make the connections more apparent with Jenova Dreamweaver being similar to the Dream Devourer and the fact that a form of time travel has now been incorporated into the story.
Regarding remakes, we also have a remake for Chrono Cross in development.
To add to this connection, FFVII and Chrono Trigger were also in development at the same time. Because FFVII originally started development as an SNES title right after FFVI. Unfortunately, all that apparently remains of the SNES version of FFVII is a single screenshot because development on FFVII was halted to complete.... Chrono Trigger.
This inevitably resulted in some of the original concepts for FFVII being used in Chrono Trigger and vice versa. Spikey haired protagonists aside, the Jetbike music in Chrono trigger is the same as the played in the motorbike chase in FFVII. Just a slightly different tempo.
When it was time resume development for FFVII, the next console generation had begun. So the development for FFVII was restarted from scratch. Thus it is funny to think that FFVII would have turned out very different if not for Chrono Trigger. And that Chrono Trigger would have also turned out very different as the FFVII devs were part of the "dream team".
I suppose that could be a video topic in of itself.
I don't think they're making a remake of CC just a remaster
In regards to CT, you could fight Lavos at the beginning of a new game if you go to the right pad of Luccas invention instead of the left before Marle does. It's only available for the small time, and doesn't show again until new game+.
New theory: Lavos is The Old One from Demon's Souls
New head Canon
*DEEPEST LORE*
Jenova's brother
New theory: Lavos has porcupine spikes. Lavos is just an anagram for Salvo, which means he is the first round of many to come, shot through space from giant Sonic space d***, neatly connecting sonics universe with this one
I never played Chrono Cross, but it’s sad to know that Magus, perhaps the greatest RPG character ever (in my opinion) was left out 😕 I always thought it was so cool that you see this powerful enemy throughout the whole game and then you arrive at a crossroads…fight & kill him, or have him join your team. I ALWAYS chose to allow him to join!
🤞🏽 Hopefully we get a 3rd installment with everyone making a playable appearance!
Guile was Magus low-key.
Guile in Chrono Cross was originally going to be explored as Magus but it seemed they added too many characters to the game, causing the idea to be scrapped. What's worse is how the Chrono series basically just ends on a cliffhanger ever since Chrono Break - originally said to be the third installment - got cancelled after most of its development team had to leave early to go work on Final Fantasy 11 or in favor of freelance work.
Been deployed for two months now. That thumbnail has awoken the beast in me. Only two days and I’m back home to my wife ;)
Good for you brother. Cheers.
Chrono Trigger is also in Final Fantasy Chronicles (2003) for PlayStation 1 along with Final Fantasy IV.
The last part of Cross is possibly influenced by Crisis on Infinite Earths. Go back to the dawn of the cosmos, rewrite reality so the big bad cannot exist, collapse the multiverse into one reality, accidentally unmake some of the heroes in the process. (Poor Helena Wayne...)
These days are so uncertain. You never know who is going to live and who's going to die.
I just started Chrono Cross this week, and I was thinking about how Schala may have been the true villain for this game given how the events of CT got destroyed just for Schala to be saved. From what I saw on the CT DS ending after defeating the Dream Devour, in regards to apparently refusing to let her brother or the party rescue her pretty much proves she's as selfish as her mother and probably wanted to be rid of taking care of her brother.
To be honest, thinking about this has changed my view of Schala completely. For now, I'll focus on playing CC for now, but your video is great!
... yeah, the CT DS ending with the Dream Devourer is setup as a link between CT and CC, particularly because CC explains *why* defeating the Dream Devourer in CT won't let you rescue Schala. There's also the factor of what happens at the end of CC- I won't spoil but for all that there's a lot of comments about how the events of CT got destroyed in the CC timeline... uh yeah play the game to its conclusion because that actually gets addressed.
But to get there, Schala's despair at the fall of Zeal and the hubris of mankind was definitely a factor.
Just pretend that Chrono Cross and the GBA remake with the new scenes never existed. You'll be happier. It's the better choice. I'm 37 and I remember when Chrono Cross came out, it's a stupid ass game.
Wow I'm so thrilled i wasn't the only person who played these games thought of these characters as their counterparts in DBZ. i would always name my Crono = Gohan, Lucca = Bulma, Marle = Videl, and Frog = Picolo ( as best as i could fit lol).
Crono=Son Goku.
Marle=Bulma.
Lucca=Arale.
Frog=Trunks.
Ayla=Launch .
Magus=Piccolo.
It was cool at first but then became annoying to me as all his characters look the same. Goku is in Dragon quest with a lot of the other characters.
I'm surprised more people didn't like this video... Chrono Trigger and your videos are awesome 😎
Probably due to the sheer amount of ad spots. Jesus. I liked the video but I've counted 17 ads so far and I'm only halfway through the video.
It’s only been out a day. Let’s give it time. Lol!
@@Darkmoon75 yes I can agree about that too. Plus Schala is looking rather…. Ahem. Seductive here. Not that I’m complaining but that will catch folks off guard.
Chrono cross is the worst tho..
It still pisses me off that Nobuo Uematsu got a unique sprite and was one of the 5 people in the special room of the developer ending, when he didn't compose the majority of the music.
Another connection regarding Xenogears; Yasunori Mitsuda was the composer for that as well.
I’ve always wondered what happened to the other Miguel? There should be 2 Miguels if there are 2 Lenas …. Sooo where is the second one?
I think if anything the undertone in the Ayla and Lucca exchange is not meant to be sexual but rather Lucca misunderstanding and taking it the wrong way.
Schala definitely got me ready for a deep dive. 😎
Do a video on Another Eden. I double dog dare you!
Seriously, there are so many references to the Chrono games, from plot elements to time travel mechanics, that I believe it truly deserves to be called the successor of Chrono Trigger. It heavily expands on concepts and plot elements introduced in the Chrono games while still being original. It is like Xenosaga vs. Xenogears but way more entertaining to actually play (don't get me wrong, I have played the Saga Trilogy 3 times lol).
Heck, it even has a crossover with Chrono Cross where you get to play alongside Serge, Kid, and Harle. You can meet "Gaspar" at the end of time, craft the rainbow weapons, walk around "Spekio's Room" 3 times and fight an optional Dragon God boss. I love Another Eden.
Btw in Another Eden's crossover with Chrono Cross we get some huge fan-service with Cyrus (in frog form) meets with Cross Glenn (in human form) showing a great inverted situation to the game where Glenn was the Frog and Cyrus the human.
Too much commenter’s theory and fanfic
Sasha? You mean Schala?
BEST RPG EVER!!! It's a shame we won't have a sequel of Chrono Trigger made by the dream team (Akira Toriyama, Nobuo Uematsu, Yuji Horii and Hironobu Sakaguchi), i feel so sad for this.
Great vid but do you think you could include like 10 more ads? Make it an even 30.
Working on it!
The reason Marle is using a fire spell in the box art is because of the scrapped magic system the game had in beta, where you could switch the magic the characters use.
No, it's not. That's the combo tech Atc Impulse
I can whistle most of the chrono trigger and cross OST
Chrono Trigger-time travel to save the future, Chrono Chross- None of that mattered and everyone dies for dumb reasons.
"Easily one of the most underused franchises in all of gaming."
Lunar: Am I a joke to you?
I've seen the thumbnail and now I want Schala, thanks xD
16:38 such a darling
She's a prime waifu, I agree.
Alcohol in general isn’t that big a deal it’s just generalized overthink usually in the western half of the world. Apparently people in charge lack the understanding of the phrase context matters.
I guess I don’t understand why so many theories link CT/CC to Xenogears? Seems like a REACH.
I can't imagine how different my life would've been had I not picked up Chrono Trigger off a shelf in Hastings, a completely random and arbitrary decision at the time. I didn't read about it in a Nintendo Power or GamePro beforehand. I didn't have any TH-camr reviews telling me it was good/bad... just a box with some pictures and inside that box... a masterpiece.
Nice! Been waiting for this one! CT is up there in my top games list.
- PS Orge Battle Series ;)
The "dream team" has got some pure 90s alt. Rock band vibes goin in those pics. God I miss the 90s
Chrono 3 -
After Chrono Cross, the split timelines have been merged. Set about a year after Cross, there is a sort of GoT situation in 1025 AD, wherein Medina, Guardia, Porre, El Nido, Choras, and Magus' Mystic Empire vie for power. Kid, now fully aware of her the identity of the reborn Schala, finds Serge and Magus (giving him back his memories and confirming he IS Magus after the DS ending.
Eventually, Cross and Trigger characters untite to strike back against Dalton's Porre. AS this video points out, Pack a refuses to die. Lavos is actually the Yang to the Yin of existence. He is the embodiment of oblivion; time, space, and existence are an afront to him.
Next, the new untied roster meets Starky who reveals he was here researching "one of the few species to resist a full-grown Lavos successfully."
From there, new characters are revealed, recruited by helping to defeat the adolescent Lavos Spawn, uniquely evolved to be the apex parasite of its just planet. With characters from Trigger, Cross, and new ones from each of these times and/or planets, you seem out and eliminate the "Queen" of the Lavos."
Finally, the group links up with Schala and Magus in a multistage Boss Fight (a la FF6) to defeat...the personification of oblivion and nonexistence across the multiverse...Lavos Mortaas.
I'm the end, the scourge of space-time are eradicated and whole worlds and epochs have united against a shared existential threat.
In a post credits scene, Toma the Explorer unxibwiwrs an ancient text saying this is a cyclical battle between order and chaos; death and life; darkness and light; creation and oblivion. Spiked to play out forever like the cycles of Death and Rebirth.
Final visual somehow leads into...
Final Fantasy 1.
Thus...each Final Fantasy branches off from the third Chrono game outlines above as they all seal with an apocalypse--either to be prevented, repeated, or recovered form.
A Schala thumbnail? I like and subscribe.
Cat-astrophe: ALL THOSE CATS.
Apparently, one of the programmers is obsessed with cats.
That man and what he did is the bane of my existence.
Ohh shit I've been wanting one of these for awhile now!! Keep up the good shit my man!
Awesome mate, hopefully it's up to your expectations, I worked really hard on this.
CT is the best game ever. Innovative , tight and polished design. Best RPG Main Story, SideQuests and Endgame. New Game + was born because of such a perfect balance of genius design and story.
Toriyama made this possible with his genius character, machine, locations and monster design. Imagine a different aesthetic for CT... like CC lol.
Then, we have Mitsuda. CT's OST is a masterpiece and a mystery. Always the perfect ambiance, energy and emotions for each part of the game.
Sakaguchi is cool too, very cool, but the other two are geniuses, having given CT its life in Visuals and Sounds.
Magus looks just like a white piccolo, down to even the sharp canine teeth. I like how all the mystics look like garlic jr and emperor pilaf
Magus is called Maoh- Evil King -in japanese ,the same title as King Piccolo (Piccolo Daimaoh).
His final look is a mix of Vegeta and Piccolo but the first design sketch was different: he looked like Dark Schneider from Bastard.
I’ve got one for you!
The “Item acquired” tune is the same as the first few notes of Cowboy Bebop’s theme, Tank!
AMAZING ICEBERG VIDEO!! THE PACING IS ON POINT!!
I implore you to seek a comparison between Lavos and the Jail from Mary Skelter Nightmares...
those have a lot in common, and, in a surprising way, are much alike but so very different
This series legit has the best melodic style music in gaming.
That intro was brilliant
There is a strong resemblance to your OC and Tom from Toonami. I wonder if there's inspiration from there.
Chrono Cross takes place 20years after Trigger...
20years after 1000? 20years after 1999???
What?
Nice thumbnail 👍
I was the one who brought up the tie-in to Clan of the Cave Bear and even mentioned Dalton caused the fall of Guardia, and was banned from the Chronoimporium because of it.
Lucca took the comment wrong compared to Marle with Ayla.
I do hate how you prounce Schala. You don't pronounce school as "shoe ool". It's also "Mah Suh Moon A" for Masamune
Cross does take place in the same world. The world was altered because of Trigger. The Frozen Flame is even a Lavos scale.
You mean ChronoCompendium?
I also think Kronos and Miguel are the same person, like the whole right hand left hand thing. He probably decided to use his right hand just to be ambidextrous in both hands so you can fight better.
And remember he defeated Lavos meaning when invasion from Porrus Chrono survived, but Marle didn’t survive, and I think he probably slaughtered most of the army, and escaped with his daughter Leena, and after that tragedy, he changed his name and probably got remarried and had more kids.
Also, Chrono properly, holding back, he’s not gonna go all on out on a kid. He’s mostly testing him to see how strong he is.
Ted Woolsey has nothing to do with the name Grandleon. Grandleon (and Grand and Leon) is the Japanese name for the Masamune (and Masa and Mune). Woolsey picked the name of a medieval Japanese swordsmith, no idea why.
Music in pop culture should also check out "Ice Box - by Omarion" also samples chrono trigger
that thumbnail tho
33:33 You play as Serge. Lynx your final enemy
Corridors of The Twilight Zone: This hit me like a ton of bricks while watching the section on music.
The most iconic piece of music in the series, Corridors of Time, is based on The Twilight Zone theme.
alright I’m not ashamed to say the thumbnail definitely got me here too
She was from Chrono Cross right?
@@ctsukuyomi2998 yep
not lewd schala in the thumbnail :(
oh wow that thumbnail :D
Translating that in 30 days is truly amazing.
I like the inclusion of Woolsey on the dream team. I think it is VERY important for western audiences to remember that translators have a Huge impact on a game's initial interpretation by the public. It can be a benefit OR a handicap (in the case of those awful Nintendo treehouse translations of Fire Emblem years ago).
Omg i am dead with these pronunciations: "Sasha", "Ee-pock", "murl" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Robo-Rick-rolled" LMFAO!! Well played, sir, well played indeed!
This is an amazing deep dive into Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, and even Xeno Gears. Extremely impressive analysis, and I agree with pretty much a lot of the theories and Easter eggs on this game, I think it’s more than a game, It’s a masterpiece storyline of life, changing history, and the will to live life to the fullest. 😎
Cross exists in the world created by Chrono's team, it isn't really another dimension it is simply what would have occurred if lavos was defeated in 1999 in 10** due to the effects of Chronopolis accidentally falling into the past and pulling the Dragon counter part into their world. seriously that world has become shredded cheese due to so many paradoxes... especially considering that the 1000 era characters all die sooner because of it but chronopolis was built based on their understanding of time and Guardia funding it....
I wish I had a time controller,I'd rewind time to when I first played this game and I'm pretty sure I'd just put time on loop but then again,it'd re open the Chronotrigger64 wound
Great video! I remember playing Chrono Resurrection way back in the day and thought it was so cool. It would have been so neat to see the entire game rendered in that style.
Wow, I got my details mixed up with Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross composition. I had no idea Mitsuda composed most of the music. In my opinion, Trigger is Mitsuda's best work I am surprised you would mess up Schala out of all names. One of the most memorable names I came across in video games. And a lot of the segments are poorly explained, especially with their complicated names, and Alpha Lynx being the worst.
I love games that do
1, offer a wide variety of recruitable characters.
2, offer a wide variety of endings.
I loved all the endings in Nier Automata.
Really loved the characters in Radiata Stories.
Can't imagine either of these games existing without the originals like Chrono.
Do you like Suikoden?
The worst day of my life was playing Chrono Trigger on the DS when I obtained Frog as a party member. They had the nerve to get rid of his Shakespearian tone. I pray that if this game gets remade in HD-2D Frog's original dialog comes back.
I always imagined Ayla having a hidden wind or Earth affinity