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Pretty much every time Bonnie disappearns their main concern seems to be "Where is Bonnie, we need her to do magic for us" rather than "where is Bonnie, I am worried about her/wanna see her", it's so sad
For me it is the funeral speeches. I didn't realise it at the time but instead of them speaking about Bonnie, for some reason Bonnie is speaking about them (at her own funeral). Wtf? 🤣 It was still sad, but c'mon ppl. Who wrote this?
@@arielm227 it's my opinion, I respect yours, I just enjoyed Elena way more. I find her hate to be way too overrated. She is an amazing character, who is hated for some illogical reasons
idk if it was because of kat's schedule but bonnie would randomly disappear and come back a lot in the show as a whole so i don't think it's a stretch to assume she's gone and just texting them from wherever she goes when she goes (i really don't remember about her dad etc. but i know when i was in school i'd go to my dads every weekend so my friends would not see me on the weekend unless it was some vent where i'd have to be home or birthday etc. where i'd skip a week)
@@nightfrost1891the writers were incredibly racist towards Kat and took it out on her character so while yes she was filming during this plot they just simply killed her to kill her. They wanted to kill her off multiple times permanently im pretty sure.
Bonnie's funeral was so sad😢 I love that Damon and Jeremy hug, you guys were scared like me that Damon was gonna do something crazy 😂 Jer knew though, he doesn't flinch 😊
@@Sjfyy_ Point is that no memories Stefan who was hungry to begin with and never actually killed anyone is not the same as Damon repeatedly going after Jeremy and Aaron (whilst fully his normal self aware self). We shall see his true colours shine again shortly.
it was mostly summer where she was supposedly away and jeremy was covering it up literally with bonnie's assistance to text them. it would be crazy for them to have been like you know what i think she's dead.
@@dutchman8887 Yup, and she had gone away to visit family the summer before, too. There are signs that they probably should have caught (especially when school started and she didn't come back, or once Silas showed back up), but until then they believed the lie that she purposefully spun for them and was trying to keep going until almost the end of this episode. Even still, them realizing in this episode isn't so much because they need her to do stuff for them- it's because the realization that Bonnie's no longer responding like she would (in part because Jer can no longer effectively hide it- it's spiraling) is indicative that there must be a reason why- Tyler and Jeremy have also temporarily left before, but come back when prompted, but now she's not (arguably, Caroline and Stefan have as well). And Matt probably has a deeply subconscious voice in the back of his head (let a little looser by Gregor's also-presence), in particular, saying "you don't remember being dead, but I do, and Bonnie's on the Other Side- push through, focus on her."
Bonnie saying a bunch of kind words about everyone else but no one saying a thing about her is just the icing on top of the shit storm that is Julie Plec’s writing bro 😭 The way that woman hated Kat is repulsive to this day.
Exactly! And Stefan is without his memories and hungry. He doesn't remember who he is (luckily Caroline was there to help). Damon actually kills (repeatedly) over Elena's rejection, and it is not even strangers he goes for.
It’s so weird being Doctor Wes Maxfield being evil cause I’m an OG Arrowverse girl and loved him as Eddie😭 There are so many Arrowverse actors in the tvdu
Elena leaning in to kiss Stefan 🤣🤣 Ugh just leave him alone. You are not the person to be taking him down memory lane. Absolutely love Stefan ditching Delena at the end. Why can't he be without his memories for a little longer?
@@nightfrost1891 I think she would do it normally since she did the same with Damon in reverse situation. Either way it is canon. And speaking of fanservice - there is no greater fanservice than Delena.
If I was a delena fan this episode I would be so pissed. Cause what you mean Elena's ass is getting all romantic with Stefan when she's with Damon. She clearly led him on. Funny how this episode reminded everyone that Elena did the same thing with Damon when she was with Stefan, just saying. Zuff is right, that lean into an almost kiss is basically a kiss 😂.Also, Elena should not be the one trying to get Stefans memories back this episode since she's known him for what 1 year max. Gotta love Stefan ditching both Elena and Damon since they both didn't tell him what was going on and their relationships, etc. The Stefan and Caroline scenes as well. Stefan even trusts her with and without his memories. They're the best.
Oh hundred percent. Like Elena knows she betrayed Stefan already and here she goes about to betray Damon. Stefan also had every right to be pissed at Elena for not telling him about her and Damon and just leading him on the whole time. I’m not a delena fan as well, so I just more pissed at Elena but Ik those delena fans were pissed bc what the hell is Elena doing.
i just say it as always, julie pandering to stelena fans trying to give them a bone to hold onto when there is none don't et me started on the ending and stelena fans acting like what julie said after the fact wasn't just to pander to them asdjxoaldjaslod the love triangle keep on going is to appease fans always this is why love traingles can suck because you piss off the other side of the fan base so i find writers trying to appease them too only to make their characters behave in weird ways
@@nightfrost1891 yea I can see that. In all honesty I hated the love triangle. Obviously it was good for the fans, etc but it never interested me. All I can say is that Elena was just so wrong in this episode. But like someone else said, not the first time Elena has acted like this in a relationship with some person else 🤦♂️
Yeah he trusted Caroline, even though she didn’t text him whole summer but knew something was wrong? I think Qetsiyah was the one who helped him the most with this situation. And also he was mad at Elena for like a day, so there is no point saying anything about it 😂
As sad as all these deaths are, I kinda wish people stayed dead. It's like let's make you super sad they're gone... Psych, they're back. It happens way too often.
After Elena chose Damon in the S4 finale, it was obvious that the writers would have Stelena scenes to pander to that disgruntled fan base, moving forward. So the first half of this season has all these supposedly Stelena moments. Elena having Stefan dreams( never mind that Katherine does too), Elena "flirting" here with Stefan....even the promos of this episode were of the "near kiss", causing uproar with both fandoms( with contrasting emotions admittedly). But if you watched that particular scene objectively, you would notice that it is only a trip down memory lane. Nothing more. Elena was trying to jog his memory. Recreating their first meeting. Making a tour of their school. Nothing else. It was all about the past . It was pure nostalgia, if anything. She was in love with Damon now, was in a very happy space herself with Damon, and she wanted normalcy and happiness for Stefan too. After all , he still means something to her , she still loves him and cares for him , just like Damon does. But nothing to indicate that she had romantic feelings for him still, or that her actions denoted romantic love for him. Even the "near kiss" was similar to no-humanity Elena leaning into Stefan like going in for a kiss ,and asking, "What heart?" (In "Pictures of You ). Just fan bait. Meant absolutely nothing. Even the music that was played during their scenes here, were former Stelena songs. Most notably , Gravity . So....all old reminiscings , old memories revisited. Thats it. It was practically an ode to a dead Stelena. Period. And the minute Elena realizes that Stefan could misconstrue her actions, she withdraws. Immediately. But ofc, because of the way it plays out on screen , poor Elena gets hated on by both fandoms.. The Stefan fans because they think she is leading him on. The Damon fans because they think she's betraying him. As an Elena fan myself, that sucks.
Yes, just as it was obvious they would retcon Delena to death after the fanservice sirebond (prior to which she was in love with Stefan, her Damon feelings weren't enough, but she still wanted normalcy and happiness for Damon too ;) Elena didn't realise he "misconstrued" her actions. She looks at his lips first and leans in for a kiss. Geeze.
Welp…another black person bites the dust.😵💫 Jesse getting killed by professor maxfield,that he was supposed to be somewhat close to is so stupid and diabolical especially when we don’t really see max acting as psycho as that moment.
Zach staring at the ground during the weird scene between Stefan’s flirting and Elena is so real lol. That was my exact reaction when I first watched this episode lol.
When i first watched this show, i didn't really like Bonnie, probably coz she wasn't really in the show unless the other characters needed her and she had a kind of arrogant air, it annoyed me lol. But her funeral had me SOBBING. (i've grown up a lot since the first time i watched and i understand Bonnie a lot more now)
I know everyone says Elena should have told Stefan earlier and I agree but I thought she was just trying to make sure he doesn’t become a Rippah but yhhh she went a bitt tooo close with him I don’t know
Maybe Damon was more responsible, he was taking Stefan down memory lane. But we all know he was just avoiding this topic in order for him to not be a jerk once again for stealing his girl :D But I also think Elena knew Stefan and wanted to help, she was not leading him on! But Elena haters are unstoppable :D
@@Sandy-k4k4v You can say the same about Caroline. She is with Tyler, Stefan has amnesia but she LET'S him hold her hand, flattered when he says she's hotter in person. They both wan to help, but only Elena gets the hate and I'm so done with it. No character is perfect, also look at Stefan, can you resist :D
it was to pander to stelena fans full stop, i'm sorry but so was everything julie says etc. it's just because they want to keep the love triangle going when it's FULL STOP OVER
@@nightfrost1891 Obviously it wasn't over lmao. Not in the writer's minds anyway. And the biggest pandering was to Delena, from the sirebond to the retconning to death moving forward.
Zuff getting angry about Stelena is so funny. Delena fans were so annoyed by this ep lmao. But hey, it was just bones to give the S/E fans since they were dunzo at this point.
Hii, loved your reaction as always. You should check out "my lady jane". It's a great series and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one.
It really irks me that Elena was this flirty with Stefan at a moment where he didn't have his memories, knowing full well she broke his heart. Borderline sadistic 😂
Not Damon reminding stefan that he killed their nephew also I'll say it again FUCK them bonnie deserved better and it only gets worse which is crazy they wasn't sad enough for me when she's sacrifice herself for them a million times like she was dead for 3 months before they noticed bc they didn't need her they were all terrible friends
As much as they have chemistry, the writers just turned Delena to such terrible characters. They don't notice Stefan's missing, and they don't notice Bonnie is dead. The delena stans can cope all they want, but they are terrible friends lmao
better than everyone else though, bonnie does disappear a lot in the series and that may be bc of kat (maybe her music career stuff i really don't know) but i think they thought she was on vacation and the were getting texts but people like to blame delena when they are at least thinking about her along with jer caroline and stefan are almost always MIA and don't even mention her AT ALL (of course stefan r/n it makes sense but other times?) like those three are the main ones who even care and maybe it's not enough, writers did do her dirty but i find it funny when people like to get after delena when stefan and caroline are always off fucking around not even mentioning her
@@nightfrost1891 But Elena and Bonnie were painted as closer since the beginning. And whilst Stefan prevented Bonnie being sacrificed by Damon a few times, they never really bonded as friends. More like acquaintances. It is not like Caroline and Stefan are on vacation either when something happens to Bonnie. Bonnie is rarely there for either of them too (because she is tied up in other things).
Lol....how easily people forget or overlook stuff from Stefan, while blaming Elena for everything. Elena's trying to jog his memories. So she's trying to get him to remember. Goes down past events. But she's "flirting" ? " "Leading him on" ? "Being touchy, feely ? Really ????? What was Stefan doing in "Pictures of You" then ? While trying to get her humanity switch back on ? Getting Elena to dance with him.(tho he hated dancing with her) Holding her close. His hand at her waist. Trying to get her to remember what feelings he aroused in her with his touch. Getting his full flirt on. All this....AFTER he had broken up with her. AFTER Elena had confessed that she was in love with Damon. AFTER Elena and Damon were together. AFTER admitting that her feelings for Damon were what had caused the sirebond. And all this ... While Damon was watching them here. (And no, please dont use the sirebond as a reason or an excuse for his behaviour here). Stef went a LOT further than Elena ever did here . Yet, she gets the blame here. Damon always gets the blame. And Stefan is such a special snowflake. Never wrong. Always the victim .!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Give me a break .
Omg , THANK YOU. I was thinking the same. Similar situation. Only, the roles are reversed here. Stefan there was practically acting like a boyfriend would. Not like an ex. But he never got any flak for that. No hate. No nothing.
Yes thank you…Everyone is so quick to rush to judgement against Elena and Damon..Never judging Stefan or Caroline,Never noticing any wrongs that they do…it’s really frustrating…
I agree but Damon saw what his brother was doing around that time when Elena had her humanity off, except if it wasn't such a big deal with Elena almost kissing Stefan and her telling him last min that shes with Damon but not once did she mention it to Damon yeah sure she told him she was helping him jog his memories and him going off the deep end but not the moments with the light touching and getting to close on her part and I wonder why? Since they have a solid relationship she should tell Damon everything. P.S. I love Damon he's my guy! Overall my problem with Elena this ep here was not telling Damon everything. Couldn't careless on Elena vs Stefan flirting contest on who did the most still did it but with different motives.
She looked at his lips first and leaned in for a kiss - is that what he needed to get his memories back? What do you call that? Stefan tried to get Elena to remember his love with her humanity off (but she had her memories the whole time, he wasn't playing with her, and he knew she was sired so the whole "love confession" for Damon is hilarious). And after what Damon did behind his back I would love for Stefan to do these things constantly. He doesn't owe Damon anything. Stefan is not that person, but man it would be nice to watch him do this with minimal effort, even just for fun, to watch Damon squirm and get his karma.
@@Sandy-k4k4v you can twist this any way you want to,but it won’t change the fact that Elena is in love with Damon..she hasn’t been in love with Stefan since season two..Damon is very secure in his relationship with Elena,he’s nothing like the green eyed monster Stefan was..lol Delena Forever..
@@orebademosi2975 Oh we are right here , lol. Don’t worry. Just giving you Stefan and Stelena fans the space to gloat and rejoice ….. at the crumbs thrown at you by the writers ….before they crush you down completely. Your reactions were what they were aiming at, and you all fell right into their trap. 😂
@@rkay222 Lol, no one is rejoicing or gloating at this nonsense, we all know its disingenuous. "Before they crush you down completely" please lol - it's not that serious and Stelena was already crushed back in season 3, I'm not delusional. So idk what you're trying to insinuate.
@@rkay222getting this serious over a ship in a vampire show is insane 😭 Also this is a direct parallel to exactly what Damon was doing with Elena in season 2. Yet no one saw anything wrong with that.
@@Sandy-k4k4v SPOILER In season 5 Caroline was still with Tyler for some time, then Jessie, then Klaus... Then of course she had to go for another Elena's ex, who actually almost fell in love with her again even with amnesia... Just so lazy and unnecessary to ruin a good platonic friendship by forcing it romantically imo. 🤷
The writing is questionable tbroigh this season. Like vampire Elena just feels different from season 4 vampire Elena, before she turned off the humanity. Now she feels more flirty towards others. It’s just weird 🤣like I’m all for her to feel free but she is with Damon. She shouldn’t be flirty towards others. Especially towards Stefan 😐.
She quit literally did the same thing when she was with Stefan she flirted with Damon now she was Damon she flirting with Stefan so that’s not really any different then how she was Elina is quiet literally the reason the brother fight she the problem
Many didn't seem to mind Delena being flirty almost from ep 1 when she was with Stefan. And here Stefan isn't even trying. Imagine if he acted the way Damon does? I am glad Stefan is not that person, but man that would be fun to watch just to see Damon squirm. Karma.
@@Sandy-k4k4v honestly tho demon is such a bad brother idk how people don’t see that he was all up on Elina knowing she with Stefan until she fell for him Stefan quit literally Scarface his relationship with Elina to save Damon by going away with klaus n Damon repay him by stealing his girlfriend 😭like what n am just supposed to be team delina they both did him so wrong idc what anyone say he deserves better
@@pscsquad8219 Oh I totally agree. I would love if the show was truly about the brotherly "love" like it pretends to be (and like Damon fans pretend it is) but it is so one sided that I can't root for anything else but Stefan cutting him out of his life for good. Unfortunately he is gaslit to believe he is responsible/guilty for all Damon does. I could never treat my younger siblings that way, especially with that much of an age difference (almost a decade). My instinct is always to love and protect them. Swooping in on their romantic partners is unimaginable lmao.
@@Sandy-k4k4v exactly 😭 Damon fans are weird their excuses for Damon making moves on Elina is Stefan did it with Katharine i literally agure with someone about this they said Stefan stole Katharine from Damon like what she was never his to begin with they was quite literally using them both 😭
Yep. Stefan's an ass. Always has been. And memory-less Stefan even more so. He's not shocked or upset or disgusted with the accounts of his ripper exploits on reading the diaries.. Calls himself the "fun brother" 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Seriously ???? Fun..for ripping off heads, exploiting young school girls, wiping out entire villages ??? And then, with the very limited info that he now has about everything, proceeds to throw himself a pity party, and make Damon and Elena the bad guys and himself a victim. And then.... "My brother stole my girlfriend , and my girlfriend let him" !! No introspection, no soul searching then when HE broke up with Elena. It was either Damon , or Elena's fault, the sirebond, whatever. Never a doubt that he could have been at fault too. And here he is still blaming and guilt tripping them while they are trying to help him.
Stefan didn't lie about Damon and Elena, and he should distrust them and ditch their asses for once. And hello? The guy has no memories, why would he be thinking about the sirebond etc? But you're right, it was the sirebond. And yeah, the fun bro is Damon who is not a ripper (because you don't choose that) but murders/abuses ppl willingly including his gf's bro and friend over rejection. As for "exploiting young girls" - he is the 25 yr old grown ass man hanging with teens (and their mothers occasionally).
Your first paragraph is especially noteworthy when taking in S7 ("I Went to the Woods") and a certain whitewashing that Stefan's first instinct is always to be the hero. He certainly does have virtues, and he can be brave/self-sacrificing, including with absolute strangers, but it is telling that people aren't engaging with you on him thinking he's "fun" after getting the downlow on his past (while Damon's sitting there trying to protect Stefan's self-image in the future, even if he doesn't necessarily agree on the details of morality). I just generally agree that he's far more of an ass than his fan-protectors want to admit... (though in sorta-fairness, I do think it sometimes comes down to Paul enjoying playing Stefan as an ass and pushing the writers to let him explore that).
SO Damon is the fun brother yeah sure his personality is what I love about him but Damon is NO BETTER then Stefan when it comes to murdering/killing innocent people like remember lexi? Uncle zac? Spolier... Him killing his nephew's pregnant wife? Him killing tyler? him being an augustine vampire almost got Elena killed even though it was katherine inside her body at the time? Him almost getting Jeremy killed by Enzo just because he thought Elena broke up with him? And since we are not giving no memory Stefan a pass we can't give no humanity Damon a pass nor him being used by Sybil then Like Stefan did alot of shit too! and it is Elena's and Damon's fault (Partially) and let me clarity they should have mentioned they were together way early in the ep then I would think Stefan would have excepted the honestly atleast and not thinking he's getting a chance with Elena, and he kept getting mixed signals when going through memory lane with her.
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Pretty much every time Bonnie disappearns their main concern seems to be "Where is Bonnie, we need her to do magic for us" rather than "where is Bonnie, I am worried about her/wanna see her", it's so sad
For me it is the funeral speeches. I didn't realise it at the time but instead of them speaking about Bonnie, for some reason Bonnie is speaking about them (at her own funeral). Wtf? 🤣
It was still sad, but c'mon ppl. Who wrote this?
@@Sandy-k4k4v omg youre right wtf
It's so shameless how the writers treated her throughout the whole series. Everytime Elena says "we need Bonnie" I just wanna smack her.
@@hopemikaelson9223Elena is better than Caroline and Bonnie for me.
@@arielm227 it's my opinion, I respect yours, I just enjoyed Elena way more.
I find her hate to be way too overrated.
She is an amazing character, who is hated for some illogical reasons
Insane it took them this long to figure out Bonnie was dead
She was literally texting people through Jeremy. Why would anyone have any suspicions?
I don’t think thats fair considering jeremy was basically covering up her death by pretending to be her while texting/emailing them.
idk if it was because of kat's schedule but bonnie would randomly disappear and come back a lot in the show as a whole so i don't think it's a stretch to assume she's gone and just texting them from wherever she goes when she goes (i really don't remember about her dad etc. but i know when i was in school i'd go to my dads every weekend so my friends would not see me on the weekend unless it was some vent where i'd have to be home or birthday etc. where i'd skip a week)
@@nightfrost1891the writers were incredibly racist towards Kat and took it out on her character so while yes she was filming during this plot they just simply killed her to kill her. They wanted to kill her off multiple times permanently im pretty sure.
how tf were they supposed to know that ☠️
get well soon, Rob! we miss you 🥰
It's so funny how everyone was ok with Elena and Damon flirting while she was with Stefan, but once the roles are revered its bad, lol.
literally ☠️☠️
Flirting vs Harassment
Hope ya feel better rob. Prayers
I think even Damon was confused on why he was so upset…. Because he cares about Bonnie that’s why
when Zuff said “what a SCUM” I laughed so hard. that’s how I feel about Wes too
Bonnie's funeral was so sad😢 I love that Damon and Jeremy hug, you guys were scared like me that Damon was gonna do something crazy 😂 Jer knew though, he doesn't flinch 😊
0:35 Qetsiyah is 2000 years old and the Mikaelsons are only a 1000 years old.
17:30 damon did the same thing lol he killed JEREMY bc of that
And they criticized him before so what’s your point..?
@@Sjfyy_ Point is that no memories Stefan who was hungry to begin with and never actually killed anyone is not the same as Damon repeatedly going after Jeremy and Aaron (whilst fully his normal self aware self). We shall see his true colours shine again shortly.
Bonnie's "Friends" They only realized she was dead when they needed her to solve their problems. Poor Bonnie...
it was mostly summer where she was supposedly away and jeremy was covering it up literally with bonnie's assistance to text them. it would be crazy for them to have been like you know what i think she's dead.
how tf were they supposed to know? be realistic, you would not assume she was dead if she were your friend.
@@dutchman8887 Yup, and she had gone away to visit family the summer before, too. There are signs that they probably should have caught (especially when school started and she didn't come back, or once Silas showed back up), but until then they believed the lie that she purposefully spun for them and was trying to keep going until almost the end of this episode. Even still, them realizing in this episode isn't so much because they need her to do stuff for them- it's because the realization that Bonnie's no longer responding like she would (in part because Jer can no longer effectively hide it- it's spiraling) is indicative that there must be a reason why- Tyler and Jeremy have also temporarily left before, but come back when prompted, but now she's not (arguably, Caroline and Stefan have as well). And Matt probably has a deeply subconscious voice in the back of his head (let a little looser by Gregor's also-presence), in particular, saying "you don't remember being dead, but I do, and Bonnie's on the Other Side- push through, focus on her."
@@realestsienna Right thank you! Most of this comment section is being dumb just to be dumb.
@@Sjfyy_ no seriously, they needa start being realistic ☠️☠️
noo Rob 😭 get well soon
Is Rob ok?
Not Bryce's head snapping away when the words "pube hair" left zuffs mouth 😂😂😂
Bonnie saying a bunch of kind words about everyone else but no one saying a thing about her is just the icing on top of the shit storm that is Julie Plec’s writing bro 😭
The way that woman hated Kat is repulsive to this day.
17:38 I LOVE Damon but c’mon he did the same thing 😭
Exactly! And Stefan is without his memories and hungry. He doesn't remember who he is (luckily Caroline was there to help).
Damon actually kills (repeatedly) over Elena's rejection, and it is not even strangers he goes for.
And they criticized him when he did it so..?
@@Sjfyy_did they fuck
0:36 Mikaelson family are only 1000 ish years old, Tessa is over 2000 years old, so tessa is the oldest we have seen upto yet from the witches i think
unless he was talking about the actress age not char, IDK
17:30 Mocking Stefan as if Damon didn't literally KILL Jeremey because Elena turned him down, be fr😭
“A pube hair from kissing” is an absolutely crazy thing to say 😂😂😂
It’s so weird being Doctor Wes Maxfield being evil cause I’m an OG Arrowverse girl and loved him as Eddie😭
There are so many Arrowverse actors in the tvdu
Elena leaning in to kiss Stefan 🤣🤣
Ugh just leave him alone. You are not the person to be taking him down memory lane.
Absolutely love Stefan ditching Delena at the end. Why can't he be without his memories for a little longer?
i really don't think elena would do this normally, i think it was just full on pandering for stelena fans bc they were mad mad
@@nightfrost1891 I think she would do it normally since she did the same with Damon in reverse situation. Either way it is canon.
And speaking of fanservice - there is no greater fanservice than Delena.
@@nightfrost1891 Lmao you can’t reason with this commentator, I’ve started ignoring her comments throughout the videos 😂
@@Sjfyy_ Continue ignoring them :) Sucks for you that some ppl actually pay attention to this show
If I was a delena fan this episode I would be so pissed. Cause what you mean Elena's ass is getting all romantic with Stefan when she's with Damon. She clearly led him on. Funny how this episode reminded everyone that Elena did the same thing with Damon when she was with Stefan, just saying. Zuff is right, that lean into an almost kiss is basically a kiss 😂.Also, Elena should not be the one trying to get Stefans memories back this episode since she's known him for what 1 year max. Gotta love Stefan ditching both Elena and Damon since they both didn't tell him what was going on and their relationships, etc. The Stefan and Caroline scenes as well. Stefan even trusts her with and without his memories. They're the best.
Oh hundred percent. Like Elena knows she betrayed Stefan already and here she goes about to betray Damon. Stefan also had every right to be pissed at Elena for not telling him about her and Damon and just leading him on the whole time. I’m not a delena fan as well, so I just more pissed at Elena but Ik those delena fans were pissed bc what the hell is Elena doing.
i just say it as always, julie pandering to stelena fans trying to give them a bone to hold onto when there is none
don't et me started on the ending and stelena fans acting like what julie said after the fact wasn't just to pander to them asdjxoaldjaslod
the love triangle keep on going is to appease fans always this is why love traingles can suck because you piss off the other side of the fan base so i find writers trying to appease them too only to make their characters behave in weird ways
@@nightfrost1891 yea I can see that. In all honesty I hated the love triangle. Obviously it was good for the fans, etc but it never interested me. All I can say is that Elena was just so wrong in this episode. But like someone else said, not the first time Elena has acted like this in a relationship with some person else 🤦♂️
Yeah he trusted Caroline, even though she didn’t text him whole summer but knew something was wrong? I think Qetsiyah was the one who helped him the most with this situation. And also he was mad at Elena for like a day, so there is no point saying anything about it 😂
@@ricka5714 Yes, exactly. Ppl here acting like this is not a pattern of Elena's
23:17 i love how adamant Zuff is with this lol
Havent watched yet but you two smiling in this thumbnail is diabolical 😂😂😂
Tessa played in blue sky. Awesome show, also has jensen ackles too. Tessa is wild in that show
Hope Rob feels better (this was probably filmed a while ago) 😭😭 but still!
Same as when people get amnesia but remember how to walk and talk. Most of them anyway
Damon dickriding is hard with this reaction. Crazy the number of double standards there are for damon vs stefan
Literally like 😭 Damon murdered Elena’s brother in front of her bc she said no to him
literally ☠️
You guys should watch teen wolf when youre done with TVD
Stelena makes me so giddy
As sad as all these deaths are, I kinda wish people stayed dead. It's like let's make you super sad they're gone... Psych, they're back. It happens way too often.
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When damn Alaric comes back. Just pisses me off. Why not Lexi? Such a downgrade to be honest.
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Quetsiyah is 1000 years older than Esther Mikaelson. Still not the oldest witch, but neither is Esther.
Feel better rob.
I cry with this ep watching it again
26:20 Ayooo I’d be rotf if he said that 😂😂
After Elena chose Damon in the S4 finale, it was obvious that the writers would have Stelena scenes to pander to that disgruntled fan base, moving forward.
So the first half of this season has all these supposedly Stelena moments. Elena having Stefan dreams( never mind that Katherine does too), Elena "flirting" here with Stefan....even the promos of this episode were of the "near kiss", causing uproar with both fandoms( with contrasting emotions admittedly).
But if you watched that particular scene objectively, you would notice that it is only a trip down memory lane. Nothing more.
Elena was trying to jog his memory. Recreating their first meeting. Making a tour of their school. Nothing else.
It was all about the past . It was pure nostalgia, if anything.
She was in love with Damon now, was in a very happy space herself with Damon, and she wanted normalcy and happiness for Stefan too.
After all , he still means something to her , she still loves him and cares for him , just like Damon does.
But nothing to indicate that she had romantic feelings for him still, or that her actions denoted romantic love for him.
Even the "near kiss" was similar to no-humanity Elena leaning into Stefan like going in for a kiss ,and asking, "What heart?" (In "Pictures of You ).
Just fan bait. Meant absolutely nothing.
Even the music that was played during their scenes here, were former Stelena songs. Most notably , Gravity .
So....all old reminiscings ,
old memories revisited. Thats it. It was practically an ode to a dead Stelena. Period.
And the minute Elena realizes that Stefan could misconstrue her actions, she withdraws. Immediately.
But ofc, because of the way it plays out on screen , poor Elena gets hated on by both fandoms..
The Stefan fans because they think she is leading him on.
The Damon fans because they think she's betraying him.
As an Elena fan myself, that sucks.
I agree
Yup, all this.
Yes, just as it was obvious they would retcon Delena to death after the fanservice sirebond (prior to which she was in love with Stefan, her Damon feelings weren't enough, but she still wanted normalcy and happiness for Damon too ;)
Elena didn't realise he "misconstrued" her actions. She looks at his lips first and leans in for a kiss. Geeze.
Love you all!! Hope Rob is feeling better so! You guys are amazing! You make my day! lol truly❤️🙏🥰😘🤣
I guess it is cold and flu season, but yeah, it seems like everyone's been getting sick lately. Hopefully Rob feels better soon!
The Damon and Jeremy scene breaks my heart everytime
Welp…another black person bites the dust.😵💫
Jesse getting killed by professor maxfield,that he was supposed to be somewhat close to is so stupid and diabolical especially when we don’t really see max acting as psycho as that moment.
Jesse also getting viciously attacked by Stefan just because he was upset.
My friends and I always say the worst thing you can be is black in tvd
Love this episode 😂😂
Tyler showing up 😭
Would love to see you react to Jane the Virgin someday 😊
How did I only realize Rob was missing 6 minutes into the video ?😭
Zach staring at the ground during the weird scene between Stefan’s flirting and Elena is so real lol. That was my exact reaction when I first watched this episode lol.
Yes it is so hard to watch stelena scenes,there’s no chemistry what so ever,and are boring..
When i first watched this show, i didn't really like Bonnie, probably coz she wasn't really in the show unless the other characters needed her and she had a kind of arrogant air, it annoyed me lol. But her funeral had me SOBBING.
(i've grown up a lot since the first time i watched and i understand Bonnie a lot more now)
I know everyone says Elena should have told Stefan earlier and I agree but I thought she was just trying to make sure he doesn’t become a Rippah but yhhh she went a bitt tooo close with him
I don’t know
She could have told him some other things, but being that flirtatious and leading him was wrong, especially when she was with Damon.
@@ricka5714 Exactly! She looked at his lips (first) and leaned in for a kiss. I am not surprised though, it is Elena after all.
Maybe Damon was more responsible, he was taking Stefan down memory lane. But we all know he was just avoiding this topic in order for him to not be a jerk once again for stealing his girl :D
But I also think Elena knew Stefan and wanted to help, she was not leading him on! But Elena haters are unstoppable :D
@@Gitana-d7f Leaning in for a kiss and keeping her current relationship a secret isn't leading someone on?
@@Sandy-k4k4v You can say the same about Caroline. She is with Tyler, Stefan has amnesia but she LET'S him hold her hand, flattered when he says she's hotter in person. They both wan to help, but only Elena gets the hate and I'm so done with it. No character is perfect, also look at Stefan, can you resist :D
Here we go epi 4!!!
ROBB!!!!😢
Writers pissed alot of us off with elena flirting hard with stefan
nah cuz why would they have her lean in and how him to pull her in knowing she was still in love with damon like what is thatt
And that was without Stefan even trying. Imagine if he was all over her (like Damon was the whole time).
Not stelena fans. Plus she did the same with Damon first….the double standards with Stefan is insane with fans
it was to pander to stelena fans full stop, i'm sorry but so was everything julie says etc. it's just because they want to keep the love triangle going when it's FULL STOP OVER
@@nightfrost1891 Obviously it wasn't over lmao. Not in the writer's minds anyway.
And the biggest pandering was to Delena, from the sirebond to the retconning to death moving forward.
Zuff getting angry about Stelena is so funny.
Delena fans were so annoyed by this ep lmao. But hey, it was just bones to give the S/E fans since they were dunzo at this point.
Is he at least watching it still by himself cuz we need to make sure he's caught up
Hii, loved your reaction as always. You should check out "my lady jane". It's a great series and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one.
It really irks me that Elena was this flirty with Stefan at a moment where he didn't have his memories, knowing full well she broke his heart. Borderline sadistic 😂
Oh welcome to Dr. Wes Mayfield 😂
Not Damon reminding stefan that he killed their nephew also I'll say it again FUCK them bonnie deserved better and it only gets worse which is crazy they wasn't sad enough for me when she's sacrifice herself for them a million times like she was dead for 3 months before they noticed bc they didn't need her they were all terrible friends
31:20 bro what did he say...
As much as they have chemistry, the writers just turned Delena to such terrible characters. They don't notice Stefan's missing, and they don't notice Bonnie is dead. The delena stans can cope all they want, but they are terrible friends lmao
better than everyone else though, bonnie does disappear a lot in the series and that may be bc of kat (maybe her music career stuff i really don't know) but i think they thought she was on vacation and the were getting texts
but people like to blame delena when they are at least thinking about her along with jer
caroline and stefan are almost always MIA and don't even mention her AT ALL (of course stefan r/n it makes sense but other times?)
like those three are the main ones who even care and maybe it's not enough, writers did do her dirty but i find it funny when people like to get after delena when stefan and caroline are always off fucking around not even mentioning her
@@nightfrost1891 But Elena and Bonnie were painted as closer since the beginning. And whilst Stefan prevented Bonnie being sacrificed by Damon a few times, they never really bonded as friends. More like acquaintances. It is not like Caroline and Stefan are on vacation either when something happens to Bonnie. Bonnie is rarely there for either of them too (because she is tied up in other things).
@@nightfrost1891 "The delena stans can cope all they want"
This is literally such a stupid comment lmao
@@Sjfyy_ average delena fan hahaha cope
Lol....how easily people forget or overlook stuff from Stefan, while blaming Elena for everything.
Elena's trying to jog his memories. So she's trying to get him to remember. Goes down past events.
But she's "flirting" ? "
"Leading him on" ?
"Being touchy, feely ?
Really ?????
What was Stefan doing in "Pictures of You" then ? While trying to get her humanity switch back on ?
Getting Elena to dance with him.(tho he hated dancing with her)
Holding her close.
His hand at her waist.
Trying to get her to remember what feelings he aroused in her with his touch.
Getting his full flirt on.
All this....AFTER he had broken up with her. AFTER Elena had confessed that she was in love with Damon. AFTER Elena and Damon were together. AFTER admitting that her feelings for Damon were what had caused the sirebond.
And all this ... While Damon was watching them here. (And no, please dont use the sirebond as a reason or an excuse for his behaviour here).
Stef went a LOT further than Elena ever did here .
Yet, she gets the blame here. Damon always gets the blame.
And Stefan is such a special snowflake. Never wrong. Always the victim .!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Give me a break .
Omg , THANK YOU.
I was thinking the same. Similar situation. Only, the roles are reversed here.
Stefan there was practically acting like a boyfriend would. Not like an ex.
But he never got any flak for that. No hate. No nothing.
Yes thank you…Everyone is so quick to rush to judgement against Elena and Damon..Never judging Stefan or Caroline,Never noticing any wrongs that they do…it’s really frustrating…
I agree but Damon saw what his brother was doing around that time when Elena had her humanity off, except if it wasn't such a big deal with Elena almost kissing Stefan and her telling him last min that shes with Damon but not once did she mention it to Damon yeah sure she told him she was helping him jog his memories and him going off the deep end but not the moments with the light touching and getting to close on her part and I wonder why? Since they have a solid relationship she should tell Damon everything. P.S. I love Damon he's my guy! Overall my problem with Elena this ep here was not telling Damon everything. Couldn't careless on Elena vs Stefan flirting contest on who did the most still did it but with different motives.
She looked at his lips first and leaned in for a kiss - is that what he needed to get his memories back? What do you call that?
Stefan tried to get Elena to remember his love with her humanity off (but she had her memories the whole time, he wasn't playing with her, and he knew she was sired so the whole "love confession" for Damon is hilarious). And after what Damon did behind his back I would love for Stefan to do these things constantly. He doesn't owe Damon anything.
Stefan is not that person, but man it would be nice to watch him do this with minimal effort, even just for fun, to watch Damon squirm and get his karma.
@@Sandy-k4k4v you can twist this any way you want to,but it won’t change the fact that Elena is in love with Damon..she hasn’t been in love with Stefan since season two..Damon is very secure in his relationship with Elena,he’s nothing like the green eyed monster Stefan was..lol Delena Forever..
No offense guys but I miss Rob! 🩶🙏🏻
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Where are all the usual Delena fans this ep? Must be on vacation. 🤣
Right lmao haven't seen the usual suspects in the comment section
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Oh we are right here , lol. Don’t worry.
Just giving you Stefan and Stelena fans the space to gloat and rejoice ….. at the crumbs thrown at you by the writers ….before they crush you down completely.
Your reactions were what they were aiming at, and you all fell right into their trap. 😂
@@rkay222 I was pissed not gloating, and all they managed to do was make elena even more shitty
@@rkay222 Lol, no one is rejoicing or gloating at this nonsense, we all know its disingenuous. "Before they crush you down completely" please lol - it's not that serious and Stelena was already crushed back in season 3, I'm not delusional. So idk what you're trying to insinuate.
@@rkay222getting this serious over a ship in a vampire show is insane 😭
Also this is a direct parallel to exactly what Damon was doing with Elena in season 2. Yet no one saw anything wrong with that.
Oh yeah steroline >>
Love them!
If you mean friendship wise - then yeah. If you mean romantically - 🥴😂
@@Gitana-d7f Either one 🥰
@@Sandy-k4k4v Are you all forgetting she's with Tyler still? 😄
Actually weird seeing people being Steroline fans, you are a minority congrats :D
@@Sandy-k4k4v SPOILER
In season 5 Caroline was still with Tyler for some time, then Jessie, then Klaus...
Then of course she had to go for another Elena's ex, who actually almost fell in love with her again even with amnesia... Just so lazy and unnecessary to ruin a good platonic friendship by forcing it romantically imo. 🤷
The writing is questionable tbroigh this season. Like vampire Elena just feels different from season 4 vampire Elena, before she turned off the humanity. Now she feels more flirty towards others. It’s just weird 🤣like I’m all for her to feel free but she is with Damon. She shouldn’t be flirty towards others. Especially towards Stefan 😐.
She quit literally did the same thing when she was with Stefan she flirted with Damon now she was Damon she flirting with Stefan so that’s not really any different then how she was Elina is quiet literally the reason the brother fight she the problem
Many didn't seem to mind Delena being flirty almost from ep 1 when she was with Stefan. And here Stefan isn't even trying. Imagine if he acted the way Damon does? I am glad Stefan is not that person, but man that would be fun to watch just to see Damon squirm. Karma.
@@Sandy-k4k4v honestly tho demon is such a bad brother idk how people don’t see that he was all up on Elina knowing she with Stefan until she fell for him Stefan quit literally Scarface his relationship with Elina to save Damon by going away with klaus n Damon repay him by stealing his girlfriend 😭like what n am just supposed to be team delina they both did him so wrong idc what anyone say he deserves better
@@pscsquad8219 Oh I totally agree. I would love if the show was truly about the brotherly "love" like it pretends to be (and like Damon fans pretend it is) but it is so one sided that I can't root for anything else but Stefan cutting him out of his life for good. Unfortunately he is gaslit to believe he is responsible/guilty for all Damon does. I could never treat my younger siblings that way, especially with that much of an age difference (almost a decade). My instinct is always to love and protect them. Swooping in on their romantic partners is unimaginable lmao.
@@Sandy-k4k4v exactly 😭 Damon fans are weird their excuses for Damon making moves on Elina is Stefan did it with Katharine i literally agure with someone about this they said Stefan stole Katharine from Damon like what she was never his to begin with they was quite literally using them both 😭
Yep. Stefan's an ass. Always has been. And memory-less Stefan even more so.
He's not shocked or upset or disgusted with the accounts of his ripper exploits on reading the diaries.. Calls himself the "fun brother" 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Seriously ???? Fun..for ripping off heads, exploiting young school girls, wiping out entire villages ???
And then, with the very limited info that he now has about everything, proceeds to throw himself a pity party, and make Damon and Elena the bad guys and himself a victim.
And then.... "My brother stole my girlfriend , and my girlfriend let him" !!
No introspection, no soul searching then when HE broke up with Elena. It was either Damon , or Elena's fault, the sirebond, whatever.
Never a doubt that he could have been at fault too.
And here he is still blaming and guilt tripping them while they are trying to help him.
Stefan didn't lie about Damon and Elena, and he should distrust them and ditch their asses for once. And hello? The guy has no memories, why would he be thinking about the sirebond etc? But you're right, it was the sirebond.
And yeah, the fun bro is Damon who is not a ripper (because you don't choose that) but murders/abuses ppl willingly including his gf's bro and friend over rejection. As for "exploiting young girls" - he is the 25 yr old grown ass man hanging with teens (and their mothers occasionally).
Stefan just loves playing the victim
and he ate !! he’s better than me, i would’ve said & done worse !
Your first paragraph is especially noteworthy when taking in S7 ("I Went to the Woods") and a certain whitewashing that Stefan's first instinct is always to be the hero. He certainly does have virtues, and he can be brave/self-sacrificing, including with absolute strangers, but it is telling that people aren't engaging with you on him thinking he's "fun" after getting the downlow on his past (while Damon's sitting there trying to protect Stefan's self-image in the future, even if he doesn't necessarily agree on the details of morality). I just generally agree that he's far more of an ass than his fan-protectors want to admit... (though in sorta-fairness, I do think it sometimes comes down to Paul enjoying playing Stefan as an ass and pushing the writers to let him explore that).
SO Damon is the fun brother yeah sure his personality is what I love about him but Damon is NO BETTER then Stefan when it comes to murdering/killing innocent people like remember lexi? Uncle zac?
Spolier...
Him killing his nephew's pregnant wife? Him killing tyler? him being an augustine vampire almost got Elena killed even though it was katherine inside her body at the time? Him almost getting Jeremy killed by Enzo just because he thought Elena broke up with him? And since we are not giving no memory Stefan a pass we can't give no humanity Damon a pass nor him being used by Sybil then Like Stefan did alot of shit too! and it is Elena's and Damon's fault (Partially) and let me clarity they should have mentioned they were together way early in the ep then I would think Stefan would have excepted the honestly atleast and not thinking he's getting a chance with Elena, and he kept getting mixed signals when going through memory lane with her.
These comments are a joke lmao
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no delena scene has ever made me feel giddy like stelena does
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